[05:05] <Kilos> morning all
[05:48] <Squirm> morning
[06:48] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday Tonberry 
[06:50] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:57] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:02] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos !
[07:02] <Vince-0> Happy Wednesday
[07:17] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[07:17] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[07:28] <superfly> ohi
[07:28] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[08:07] <smokestorm21> Hi
[08:08] <Kilos> hi smokestorm21 
[08:08] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[08:09] <smokestorm21> My friend told me I should say hi (theblazehen)
[08:09] <Kilos> lol good
[08:09] <Kilos> tell us about yourself
[08:10] <smokestorm21> I love ubuntu. Although I'm a new user
[08:10] <Kilos> great. if you need help ask here
[08:11] <Kilos> basics i try help with. the rest the pros will as and when they get time from busy work schedules
[08:11] <smokestorm21> I'm using enlightenment, cinnamon and gnome-shell. My taste changes frequently
[08:12] <Kilos> lol
[08:12] <Kilos> im on unity and kde on another drive
[08:12] <jrgns> Hi Kilos, all
[08:12] <smokestorm21> Hi jrgns
[08:13] <smokestorm21> Bye ubuntu-za
[08:17] <charl_> good morning all
[08:17] <charl_> morning Kilos, jrgns 
[08:17] <Kilos> 'hi ChanServ 
[08:17] <charl_> lol
[08:17] <Kilos> ai
[08:17] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[08:17] <charl_> :)
[08:17] <charl_> how's it going?
[08:17] <charl_> Maaz_: coffee on
[08:17]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[08:17] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:17] <charl_> good thanks
[08:18] <charl_> i see maaz also got a tail :)
[08:18] <charl_> it's becoming a fashion statement here
[08:18] <Kilos> yeah
[08:21] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[08:37] <Squirm> Maaz_: coffee please
[08:37] <Maaz_> Squirm: There isn't a pot on
[08:37] <Squirm> I am in need
[08:37] <Squirm> Maaz_: coffee on
[08:37]  * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee
[08:41] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[08:42] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:43] <Squirm> Maaz_: finally, thanks
[08:43] <Maaz_> Squirm: not at all
[08:43] <Squirm> lo inetpro 
[08:43] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[09:29]  * superfly remembers the early days of Linux... switching distros faster than switching underwear
[09:41] <Kilos> hehe
[10:16] <Kilos> power gone. bbl
[10:29]  * Kilos wonders what that cut was for
[10:29] <Kilos> swines
[11:39] <Kilos> again. sigh
[11:41] <inetpro> Kilos: wasn't me, I promise
[11:42] <Kilos> na was pta electric department
[11:42] <Kilos> swines
[11:43] <Kilos> luckily ext4 seems to handle power cuts well
[11:44] <Kilos> would hate to lose this drive
[12:15] <magespawn> howdy all
[12:16] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[12:16] <magespawn> whats up Kilos? not much chatting for sure
[12:17] <Kilos> bad head day and tween rests trying to get old pc working with 98 so i can do the floppy thing
[12:19] <Kilos> sees a usb stick as floppy D:
[12:19] <Kilos> stupid thing
[12:20] <Kilos> then tells you it failed to open it
[12:21] <Kilos> im so happy i found ubuntu
[12:47] <Squirm> [14:41:24] .:***:. Buffer Playback...
[12:47] <Squirm> [14:41:24] .:Kilos:. [14:21:07] im so happy i found ubuntu
[12:47] <Squirm> [14:41:24] .:***:. Playback Complete.
[12:47] <Squirm> lol
[12:47] <Squirm> was in the while 20min the power was off
[12:48] <Kilos> lol
[12:48] <Squirm> Kilos: and it's not the filesystem you need to worry about. it's the hardware
[12:48] <Squirm> so ext4 may be able to handle it, but what about the hdd itself?
[12:48] <Kilos> yes ive lost a few drives after power cuts Squirm 
[12:49] <Kilos> but not one since i went to ext4
[12:49] <Kilos> many when i was on winsucks
[12:49] <Squirm> personally, I don't think the fs has anything to do with it
[12:50] <Kilos> i read somewhere that ext4 is more able to handle frequent power cuts
[12:50] <Kilos> but dont ask me where
[12:52] <Kilos> yo sakhi lewe jy nog?
[12:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:52] <Kilos> gedink dis jou pc wat hier lurk
[12:53] <sakhi> yebo Kilos ek lewe nog besig man.
[12:53] <Kilos> mooi, besig is goed
[12:54] <sakhi> we lost international connection (flap) for seconds but we back now.
[12:55] <sakhi> my afrikaans is nie so goed nie ek probeer ;)
[12:56] <magespawn> Squirm: i think it has to do with file recovery and the writing process when the power fails
[12:57] <Kilos> oh sorry sakhi 
[12:57] <Kilos> i forget whose who at times
[12:57] <sakhi> np
[12:57] <Kilos> but it seems fine to me
[13:13] <Squirm> magespawn: but surely you could format that failed drive and it'll be fine again? But for it not to work?
[13:17] <Kilos> nope Squirm some are dead
[13:17] <Kilos> i think when the power comes on and it wasnt seated properly it burns a boot sector or something
[13:18] <Kilos> beyong my understanding but ya
[13:20] <Squirm> I don't know what format the bootsector is
[13:21] <Kilos> mbr is machine code methinks. i also dont know what the boot sector is
[13:24] <magespawn> Squirm: sometimes yes
[13:25] <magespawn> i think that  tha way fs tells the drive to write affects it when the power goes off
[13:40] <Kilos> remember one used to have to park drives
[13:54] <magespawn> yup and with win 95 the os did it for you, i think it was win 95
[13:56] <Kilos> now i think thats where the prob came in if power cut before parking
[13:57] <Kilos> dunno how linux handles it
[13:58] <magespawn> not sure myself
[13:58] <Kilos> hehe howerver it does a better job
[14:16] <Kilos> bbl gonna try a unetbootin flash
[15:17] <magespawn> later all
[15:34] <charl_> what is this about jozihub, sounds interesting
[15:34] <charl_> http://jozihub.org/
[16:41] <superfly> magespawn: ping
[17:30] <magespawn> superfly pong
[18:12] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[18:12] <Kilos> magespawn, he must be eating
[18:12] <Kilos> or youve got a short distance pong
[18:12] <magespawn> hey Kilos  Mezenir 
[18:13] <magespawn> no worries
[18:28] <magespawn> kids take time
[18:38] <Kilos> hehe yeah
[18:38] <Kilos> lifetime
[18:47] <magespawn> charl_: that looks like a seriously cool idea
[18:50] <Kilos> night guys sleep tight
[18:50] <magespawn> night Kilos 
[18:58] <smile4ever> pong :p
[19:04] <magespawn> hey smile4ever 
[19:07] <smile4ever> magespawn: How are you? :)
[19:09] <magespawn> good and yourself?
[19:10] <smile4ever> i'm okay :)
[19:11] <smile4ever> I should take some rest :)
[19:11] <magespawn> rest is always needed
[19:15] <smile4ever> yeah, but I'm doing too much
[19:33] <smile4ever> bye ;:)
[19:54] <magespawn> good night all
[20:02] <superfly> magespawn: no worries, found out what I needed from our reason for travelling up to kzn