MrHacksI've chosen not to encrypt the hard drive on a new Ubuntu setup on another computer.00:00
k1ldebiantoruser: im not sure if that is not breaking the gnome00:00
MrHacksSo, encrypt nothing, caryhartline ?00:00
* MrHacks is doing a new install right now00:01
caryhartlineIdk, I just found that I don't have the knowledge to figure out a bad encryption setup.00:01
tgm4883MrHacks, depends on why you need encryption I guess00:01
caryhartlineThis all started because of a blog that gave a line of terminal uninstall to completely uninstall kubuntu.00:02
tgm4883caryhartline, admittedly, didn't you try to do something you weren't supposed to and end up breaking it? or was that someone else00:02
jmcantrellalways encrypt if it's a laptop. encrypt your desktop if you're at all worried about someone stealing it, and don't encrypt servers00:02
caryhartlineIt deleted crypt_setup00:02
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caryhartlineI guess uninstalling crypt_setup will totally mess up your computer.00:03
MrHackstgm, its my new desktop. I'm not working for the NSA. I do like using VNC so I can use my desktop via my tablet when the cat is in my lap00:03
tgm4883caryhartline, so you had an encrypted home dir?00:03
silveroneMrHacks: do send us a picture of that00:03
tgm4883MrHacks, I'd agree with jmcantrell00:03
mpmagood evening!00:04
MrHacksThen my decision is not to encrypt anything.00:04
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tgm4883caryhartline, I mean, if you have an encrypted home dir, and you backup the encryption passphrase, then you should be able to recover it from the live cd. There is even a blog post about it http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/00:05
caryhartlineIt wasn't my home directory. I had it so u pressed f12 after turning it on and entering a crypt_setup sda5 password00:05
MrHacksAny objections before I click "continue"?00:05
caryhartlineIt was the entire hard drive00:05
MrHacksgoing once00:06
unheedingcan anyone test and see if this bug effects them, and if so, add themselves to the bug report?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/112359300:06
MrHacksgoing twice00:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 1123593 in unity (Ubuntu) "Selecting launcher menu option "Quit" for GIMP only closes current item, not program" [Undecided,New]00:06
MrHacksCLICKY POO!00:06
tgm4883caryhartline, it seems like you should still be able to recover if you have the passphrase00:07
MrHacksI'm looking forward to using steam soon and progeamming a whole mess of python programs again00:09
caryhartlineWell I can unlock it, but I can't mount it.00:09
tgm4883caryhartline, why not, what happens when you mount it?00:09
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caryhartlineIt says it can't mount cryptos luks or something like that.00:10
MrHacksI've been in hell the past couple of years with my netbook, so It feels good to have some legroom again.00:10
tgm4883caryhartline, how are you unlocking it?00:11
MonkeyDustMrHacks  stop spawning random remarks, please00:11
caryhartlineI unlocked it on the live cd00:12
caryhartlineAnd there was a thread that told me how to unlock it from terminal.00:13
tgm4883caryhartline, can you paste what commands you used to unlock it and what command you tried to mount it with?00:13
caryhartlineIt can't boot into that because "it can't find root directory"00:13
caryhartlineI found how to unlock here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86868100:14
tgm4883caryhartline, a 5 year old thread?00:14
caryhartlineIt was luksOpen00:14
caryhartlineThat's one of the only threads with my exact problem.00:15
tgm4883caryhartline, ok, then you tried mounting it via something similar to 'mount /dev/sda2 /mnt' and that is where you got the error?00:15
caryhartlineI also tried using install from the live cd and got a similar error00:16
tgm4883caryhartline, do you have anything on there that you actually want, or have you already blown it all away?00:17
tgm4883caryhartline, some searching suggests that you should use 'mount /dev/mapper/<tag> /mnt' to mount it, rather than /dev/sdXY00:18
tgm4883"You have made an encrypted partition, known as /dev/mapper/crypto (instead of /dev/sda8, which is now useless to the normal tools - mount /dev/sda8, for example, will no longer work.)"00:20
jpmhunder ubuntu if I click on the volume icon there is am option to open sound settings, and there I can set my speakers at more than 100% - how do I do this with lubuntu which seems to use a different sound applet?00:22
g16jpmh: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol && pavucontrol &00:24
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caryhartlineI just moved over everything to an external harddrive so I don't have any worries now.00:25
tgm4883caryhartline, so you were able to mount it and copy your stuff off?00:27
caryhartlineOk so I guess I was able to mount it on the live cd, but I still can't boot from it.00:27
caryhartlineNew problem: http://i.imgur.com/GSBJiPi.jpg00:28
tgm4883caryhartline, ah ok, yea that was my question then00:28
tgm4883caryhartline, you are still in the live cd session that you mounted and backed your stuff up from?00:28
tgm4883caryhartline, and I'm assuming that is where you mounted it?00:29
tgm4883then yea, if you want to use that disk for your new install, you'll need to unmount it00:29
caryhartlineI can't mount it from the terminal, weirdly.00:29
caryhartlineSo yes on prompt?00:29
FlynsarmyI installed gnome shell and when i turn my tv off and on again my full screen window isnt' full screen anymore until I press teh windows key. is there a way to stop that from happenin?00:30
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tgm4883caryhartline, yea00:30
caryhartlineUgh I hate that I'll have to reinstall everything.00:31
caryhartlineSteam games take so long to download/update00:31
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clipperget list00:32
clipperGet List00:32
caryhartlineNew problem: http://i.imgur.com/x6Y36BU.jpg00:34
caryhartlineWhat do?00:34
debiantoruserHow to trully hold packages ? http://pastebin.com/N1zFuta100:34
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ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto00:35
caryhartlineShould I delete /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root?00:36
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vairosSomebody knows an Electronic Circuit IRC channel?00:37
_goxxsy_`hi :-)00:37
_goxxsy_hello !00:38
somsip!alis | vairos00:38
ubottuvairos: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*00:38
dr-williswhy do you think you need to caryhartline00:39
senchaAnyone else have a LOT of pictures in ~/Pictures who has issues with the Appearance dialog in gnome-control-center?00:39
landswipehey people, i grabbed the minimal install cd, it's like 30mb or so00:39
landswipebut when i install it downloads like 1gb - just with basic server and openssh installed00:40
senchaAppearance appears to try to load thumbnails of all the pictures, and then fails/freezes when it finds too many00:40
senchaconsidering submitting a bug report00:40
landswipeis there a way to really 'strip back' ubuntu to like a couple of hundred megs?00:40
landswipe1gb is a fn lot of software.00:40
caryhartlineBecause I have a ton of partitions on here now and I just want one big hard drive00:40
landswipei should have said 'downloads and installs to' 1gb.00:41
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elijahIf I saved a file to ~example.txt and not ~/example.txt, where would the file have been saved to?00:42
elijahI didn't get any errors when saving to ~example.txt00:43
jpmhg16: ty so much - just what I wanted00:43
elijahit will be the filename00:43
caryhartlineStupid install froze so I just shut it down and restart. Let's hope it works this time.00:45
marwan_how to access rails app running locally on ubuntu 12.10 (localhost:3000), from windows pc on the same network00:47
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mickster04ip address?00:51
K3rmitHi I'm trying to get my usb atheros wireless card to work. When I do modprobe ath9k_htc I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ath9k_htc (/lib/modules/2.6.32-35-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)00:54
PoolShark_did you see dmesg?00:54
mtadyshaktrying to automatically assign an IP address to our USB RNDIS device.00:55
mtadyshakHere is my /etc/network/interfaces file00:55
mtadyshakauto lo00:55
mtadyshakiface lo inet loopback00:55
mtadyshakallow-hotplug usb000:55
mtadyshakiface usb0 inet static00:55
FloodBot1mtadyshak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:55
PoolShark_tried to warn him00:56
K3rmitPoolShark_ but I'm not sure what to look for00:57
bookpagecan somebody tell me exactly what happens when I exit a shell? In particular, what happens to the tty and any other processes that are using that tty?00:57
PoolShark_K3rmit: are you at a tty or are you puttied in or what? if you can, open two concurrent shells and do a tail -f /var/log/dmesg in one and the modprobe in the other, and see what pops up in dmesg when you run the modprobe00:58
mtadyshakI pasted a question about isc-dhcp-server here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1641626/01:00
technojabberCan not delete a folder01:01
K3rmitPoolShark_ http://pastebin.com/q9G2sWi001:02
PoolShark_K3rmit: I don't see anything in there that says anythying useful about your module problem01:04
thatonegingsomebody available to help with wifi help?01:05
usr13thatoneging: Sure.01:05
caryhartlineInstallation is complete! :D01:05
thatoneginggot a Ralink RT3290, trying to find somewhere online to help but really havent found anything definite to help01:06
usr13thatoneging: What's it doing?  (or not doing?01:07
caryhartlineThanks guy :) http://i.imgur.com/lUv93WM.jpg01:07
thatonegingdoesnt recognize any wireless networks01:08
K3rmitPoolShark_ maybe here? http://pastebin.com/11yRUSu601:08
usr13thatoneging: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/wireless-ralink-rt3290-not-working-on-asus01:09
thatonegingthank you so much01:09
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PoolShark_K3rmit: sorry, i don't see anything there either...01:09
K3rmitwhat are you looking for?01:10
usr13thatoneging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/104946601:10
ubottuUbuntu bug 1049466 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "Need support of Ralink RT3290 wifi support" [Medium,Triaged]01:10
usr13thatoneging: But looks like that first link is all you need.01:11
K3rmitPoolShark_ here? http://pastebin.com/t2djgENL01:12
thatonegingfirst link as in the linux triaged?01:12
sw0rdfishis editing the iptables.conf and putting in rules the same as putting them in one by one in terminal01:13
darkomenzhello, could anyone assist me with getting bonded vlans working on ubuntu 12.10 server?01:14
PoolShark_K3rmit: that's more like it..looks like you have dependent modules that were compiled on different kernel versions01:14
PoolShark_K3rmit: or something01:14
sevenhillhi everyone01:15
cf16: p01:15
micromanyone got the sound working in kdenlive in precise?01:15
heywoodhi all, i have sshguard 1.5-4 running (installed via apt). ps aux shows  it running with a whitelist (-w /etc/sshguard/whitelist). whitelist contains my IP. but sshguard keeps adding it to hosts.deny. anyone else seen this?01:16
K3rmitPoolShark_ ? Sorry I disconnected for a sec01:16
PoolShark_K3rmit: no problem. That looks like you have modules with conflicting versions01:16
crazybraintgm4883: how to download Aria2c?01:17
PoolShark_K3rmit: maybe like a parent modules and child module were compiled on different kernel versions or something... not really sure01:17
KristisBhello, can you help me to try to understand some graphical terms in Unix-like operating systems?:)01:18
crazybrainHow to download downloader for x in ubuntu 12.10?01:18
PoolShark_K3rmit: I have no idea why01:19
PoolShark_K3rmit: you can *try* modprobe --dump-modversions ath9k-htc01:20
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PoolShark_K3rmit: and if you're feeling really saucy, you can modprobe -f , but realize this may crash your system01:21
heywoodKristisB: what specific terms are you trying to understand?01:22
K3rmitPoolShark_ FATAL: ath9k-htc: No such file or directory01:22
bulletrulzso i installed plank and tried to put a theme on it but it didnt work01:23
KristisBheywood,  desktop environment and graphical shell. some guy on #debian told me that Unity isn't a shell, it's a desktop environment.01:24
bulletrulzKristisB, hes right sense it is build of gnome 3 shell01:24
heywoodKristisB: that's technically correct. you can think of a shell as an interpreter that understands a specific set of commands. (for example, sh, bash, ksh, tcsh -- those are all shells. )01:25
crazybrainalternative to Internet Download Manager in Ubuntu 12.10?01:25
histoKristisB: Unity is a shell ontop of gnome 301:25
Justicewhen trying to install linux-headers 3.7 i get that dependency are not met, but the 3.7 kernel installed just fine.01:26
Justiceany ideas?01:26
heywoodKristisB: the desktop environment is the thing that defines how the desktop looks and operates. gnome and KDE are examples of those.01:26
histoKristisB: There are desktopp environments and window managers01:26
histo!unity | KristisB01:26
ubottuKristisB: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity01:26
KristisBhisto, so GNOME project is a desktop environment, a core basics, and graphical shell is something more specific, right?01:27
histoKristisB: With gnome 3 came this whole shell business in the sense of GUI atleast. Not to be confused with shells like bash zsh etc... The shells control how gnome looks adds features etc...01:27
histoKristisB: Right01:27
histoKristisB: There are other desktop environments like xfce lxde etc... And then there are window managers, Window managers control window borders, buttons, and their placement etc...01:28
josesierrahello!  I get a *lot* of apport-gtk errors.  Like, tons.  How can I fix this?01:28
KristisBhisto, since I am now on Debian Squeeze, I asked #debian, "If Ubuntu now uses Unity as a graphical shell for Gnome, what is that that Debian Squeeze uses as a graphical shell?".01:29
histoKristisB: If you install gnome 3 in debian it will use the default shell.01:30
histo!gnome3 | KristisB01:30
ubottuKristisB: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based.  To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources.01:30
histoKristisB: I believe squeze has gnome 2 by default though. That does not use shells.01:31
tjbiddleHi guys. Not sure on the keywords for this, but I'm not coming up with a solution. Is it possible to have a global setting to change the terminal background when you SSH into a server? (On a per-server basis, not already set in my own terminal settings). Would like to have different colors dependent upon what environment I'm in.01:31
histoKristisB: Yeah I just checked on my debian box gnoe 2.3x01:32
histotjbiddle: That would be controlled by your client terminal somehow. I cna't think of a way to do it server side nor would it make sense to do it that way.01:33
CyclohexaneHi can someone help me with a network?01:33
KristisBhisto, so we only have shell when an desktop environment is edited?01:33
histoKristisB: No only have shells with gnome 301:34
PoolShark_K3rmit: I may have the name of your module wrong...01:34
tjbiddlehisto: Damn. Alright. Why would it not make sense to do it serverside (If it were possible)? We could enforce a certain color on production servers to reduce any confusion.01:34
histoagain not to be confused with bash or zsh etc...01:34
histo!details | Cyclohexane01:35
ubottuCyclohexane: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:35
histotjbiddle: If you could you'd have to make the changes on each server as apposed to just doing it on one client.01:35
tjbiddlehisto: Puppet ;-)01:36
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tjbiddlehisto: Wanted to ensure it for multiple users, not just myself.01:36
KristisBhisto, so GNOME 2 doesn't allow different shells, just to use the default environment as a shell, from 3 version on we can use shells like Unity or Cinnamon that are based on some core desktop environment?01:37
histotjbiddle: Yea because what if A user ssh'd in with a terminal that didn't support colors then what would the server do? also how it even take control of the remote terminal?01:37
histoKristisB: Shells don't exist in gnome201:37
tjbiddlehisto: All hypothetical :) Would just be an added benefit for those who it did support. Ah well. Thanks!01:38
histoKristisB: Gnome 2 however did use a window manager to draw window decorations and handle placement like metacity or compiz.01:38
histotjbiddle: I can't think of a way to do it or know of anything that exists. You may want to check cli-apps or ask in #linux01:38
KristisBhisto,  so how can I see something on Monitor?:)01:39
histoKristisB: Huh?01:39
histoKristisB: http://xwinman.org/01:40
KristisBhisto, I treated the whole view that I see on my screen as I graphical shell.01:40
KristisBas a*01:40
ovejanegrahow do i become root when running a live cd_01:40
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johnjohn101how do i get libreoffice 4.0 into 12.04?01:41
histoovejanegra: sudo -i01:42
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histo!backports | johnjohn10101:42
ubottujohnjohn101: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging01:42
johnjohn101thx histo:01:43
histoKristisB: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell01:43
dbrom_anyone use handbrake01:44
PoolShark_yeah I use handbrake01:45
KristisBhisto, so Unity (as a shell) isn't the whole view I see on the screen, just some parts of this?01:46
histoKristisB: If you read that gnomeshell link it will explain.01:47
KristisBhisto, okay, thank you:)01:47
histoKristisB: All of this is way ot for this channel.01:47
ctmjrKristisB: was this not all explained to you in #debian?01:47
PoolShark_well luckily the ot nazis aren't here to complain01:47
KristisBctmjr, no.:)01:48
mtadyshakCan anyone help setup isc-dhcp-server on 12.04LTS?   I pasted a question here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1641626/01:49
KristisBctmjr, they say not even trust gnome.org ->> "Gnome is a huge project. dont let their nomenclature overwhelm your concept of computer sceince. thier knowledge is hardly end all"01:50
dr_willis_trust no one. not even yourself...01:52
histoKristisB: Yeah but the people in #debian are an end all compaired to the projects website?01:54
ctmjrKristisB: All's I said was you asked pretty much the same questions in #debian and received the same answers. And like histo said it is ot01:54
histoKristisB: Ask different people receive different opinioins. Until you edjucate yourself you will not know the true answer.01:55
KristisBctmjr - not really, histo explained it to me, and gave me the resource.01:55
dr_willis_hiddly ho01:55
prariedoguxhi all.   is anyone here familiar with wifi headaches?  for example, how installing from live usb wifi works fine, and then soon as you update after the install, ubuntu kindly updates so nothing works anymore ?01:55
cf16does anyone know what to do with facebook that says "you are using browser which is not supported" via lynx?01:56
Felsanyone here knwo why when I use import QtWebKit 3.0  then a webview component I get module "QtWebKit" is not installed01:56
JohnKI4ROWhen I run FireFox the fan seems to run very frequently.  When I run Chrome or Chromium it barely runs at all?  Is FireFox that much more of a CPU hog?01:56
histoprariedogux: Most likely an issue with your firmware for your wifi device or a kernel update that broke the module for your device.01:56
prariedoguxits been 48 hrs and im losing my marble01:56
KristisBhisto, thank you for your help.01:56
nearstcf16, use gui + modern browser01:56
histocf16: continue anyway or use the mobile facebook site.01:56
histocf16: Unless you can change your user agent01:56
KirejiI'm running 12.04.1 on a server (a 1U in a colo) - and I did a distupgrade using apt.   When I did it, there was no option to install desktop version or a server version.  however, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/ implies there is a desktop and server version.  How can I tell if I'm running desktop or server, and is it possible to change from desktop to server?01:57
histoJohnKI4RO: top will show you.01:57
cf16canearest: thank you, any other hints?  : p I want it in lynx01:57
JohnKI4ROhisto, Top will show me what a hog FireFox is?01:57
histoKireji: dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop01:57
histoKireji: also uname -a01:57
histoJohnKI4RO: will show you cpu usage01:57
prariedoguxok histo.. so then what?  is there a way i can undo the update  and go back to what it was originally?01:58
Kirejiuname reports " 3.2.0-36-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:44:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux "01:58
histoprariedogux: What type of wifi chipset do you have?01:58
JohnKI4ROhisto, Yes, and system monitor does as well...I guess I'm just looking for confirmation...you know, misery loves company and all that LOL01:58
Kirejidpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop - does not return anything01:58
prariedoguxrealtek rtl8188ce01:58
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Kirejidoes 3.2.0-36-generic mean server or desktop?01:59
histoKireji: Then it doesn't ahve the desktop packages installed. If you wanted to install them you could install ubuntu-desktop01:59
prariedoguxi downloaded the driver from the site, ran it on the xp side of things and it works fine.01:59
prariedoguxbut ubuntu, ive messed with everything01:59
prariedoguxnothing works01:59
Kirejidon't need them - rather wanting to make sure the optimizations for server are all set up01:59
histoKireji: Doesn't mean anything I don't believe they have a server kernel anymore.02:00
Kirejifor example, they used to set deadline for the scheduler02:00
prariedoguxwhich really is frustrating. it worked fine before updating.. why did update mgr mess with it if it was working fine, and then break it on me?02:00
Kirejinot sure if there were/are other optimizations for server02:00
histoprariedogux: that driver should just work.  You can hold shift when booting to get a grub menu and boot an older kernel.02:00
histoGoing to watch the speech brb02:01
prariedoguxit did just work02:01
prariedoguxand then after installing02:01
prariedoguxi updated evertying02:01
prariedoguxand now it doesnt work02:01
FloodBot1prariedogux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:01
JohnKI4ROOkay, next question, this system is AMD64 but I am running the 32 bit OS...would there be any reason to change to the 64 bit OS?02:02
mickster04JohnKI4RO: none at all02:03
escottJohnKI4RO, more registers SSE402:03
ubottuAMD64 and Intel 64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#AMD64_Processors and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.02:03
nearstJohnKI4RO, ram available is reason02:03
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info02:03
escottJohnKI4RO, some security benefits to the larger address space02:03
escottmickster04, i believe all kernels are PAE now02:03
JohnKI4ROmickster04, Thanks...that's pretty straight forward LOL02:04
jpmhwhy is the limit 3.2 not 4 G since 2^32 is 4 G not 3 G?02:04
escottjpmh, kernel takes some, (video) hardware takes the rest02:04
JohnKI4ROescott, Thanks02:05
JohnKI4ROnearst, Thanks02:05
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jpmhescott: ty - sort of always wondered but being cheap have never had a machine with enough memory for it to matter02:05
cf16histo: tahnks, mobile site works02:06
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escottjpmh, <3GB addressable is very possible02:06
osmdaveHi when I type 'info bash' into a terminal it gives me information about the page. I read this is reading an info file. Where is this info file stored on the system I cant seem to find it?02:07
jpmhescott: absolutely - althiugh I have had to change from ubuntu to lubuntu with unity needing too much ram on some of my machines02:07
prariedoguxis there a way to restore the original live usb modules and configurations for wifi?02:07
escottosmdave, its a special file format its not one you can just read. info is the correct tool to read it02:07
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prariedoguxi think my next  option is to find a hammer and fix it real good once and for all..02:08
escottosmdave, /usr/share/info02:09
osmdaveescott, thanks but there doesnt seem to be much in there. No bash.info.gz for example02:11
escottosmdave, so "info bash" at the top it says "File *manpages*" ie its not an info page its a man page02:12
dr_willis_prariedogux: tried an older kernel yet?02:12
prariedoguxi rebooted it and used the original before the update, and same thing.  on reboot, window pops up and says 'you are now off line'  'not connected'.02:13
prariedoguxand then the wifi manager does not see any networks02:14
osmdaveescott thank you very much thats what I was looking for02:15
prariedoguxactually, it only sees a greyed out 'wired networks' and no wifi options at all..02:15
heywoodwhat security-related daemons typically add stuff to /etc/hosts.deny ? i managed to get my own IP blocked somehow. uninstalled fail2ban, stopped the sshguard daemon... and still my IP keeps getting added. help please?02:15
nearstselinux, apparmor?02:20
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prariedoguxok, if i reinstall.. is there a way one can update after the install everything except for the wifi handling?02:23
Cubis there any way to install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 12.1002:24
rammstein812HI, I need help installing Ubuntu64 on my PC, when I try to boot the iso from a usb stick I get white writing then it switches to a black screen and nothing happens, anyone got a similar problem?02:24
heywoodok, found the problem -- i had denyhosts installed and running, in addition to fail2ban and sshguard. is it redundant to have all three? does each one have some functionality that the other two don't?02:25
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Cubhey rammstein812  can your pc boot from usb02:27
skathHow do I get a list of all the packages which provide a dependency? (e.g. mail-transport-agent)02:28
usr13!nomodeset | rammstein81202:28
ubotturammstein812: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:28
rammstein812Thanks a lot!02:29
hyperkineitcHi all. This morning I ran dist-upgrade, and received an error that some packages failed to install. After rebooting, the machine freezes at grub. The keyboard is unresponsive, and the only way to restart the machine is reset or power cycle.02:31
hyperkineitcI've tried mounting the disk using a live CD and re-running grub-install, but no go.02:31
rammstein812ubottu, the problem is that I don't get that far in the installation02:31
usr13skath: apt-cache depends package-name-here02:32
usr13skath: man apt-cache  #for more info.02:32
hyperkineitcWhy would grub freeze? I thought it's supposed to be an environment with which you can work with a wounded system.02:33
skaththanks usr1302:33
escotthyperkineitc, freezes at grub or after grub tries to boot the kernel02:33
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ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:33
usr13hyperkineitc: It depends on how badly wounded the system is.02:34
hyperkineitcFreezes at grub. It shows the previous kernels, but it's not possible to select anything.02:34
nearsthyperkineitc, jump into recovery mode ? or nomodeset02:34
escotthyperkineitc, yeah thats very strange and should be unrelated to apt as apt won't reinstall grub02:34
hyperkineitcEdits I've made to grub.conf are reflected, and I set the timeout high to give me time to select something.02:35
nearstedit on /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub02:35
escotthyperkineitc, do you happen to know what was in the dist-upgrade02:35
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:36
hyperkineitcIt was supposed to be 11.04 to 11.1002:36
hyperkineitcWas going to work my way up to 12.x02:37
MeatRocketHello i am having trouble installing ubuntu on a dvd, i'm currently on OS X02:37
escotthyperkineitc, thats not "dist-upgrade" thats "do-release-upgrade"02:37
escotthyperkineitc, was it an "apt-get dist-upgrade" or a "do-release-upgrade"02:37
thatoneginghow do you uninstall Google Chrome from Terminal?02:38
MeatRocketI'm getting a no mountable file system error02:39
hyperkineitcSo I've booted off a 10.04 live CD, and chrooted to the drive.02:39
dr_willis_thatoneging: sudo apt-get remove packagename02:40
hyperkineitcIs there a way to test what is broken with grub?02:40
nearstsudo grub-install --recheck <disk>02:40
dr_willis_hyperkineitc: try that boot-repair tool yet?02:40
MeatRocketI can't burn the ISO to a disk. I keep getting an error. Won't let me mount it. please help02:41
hyperkineitcWhat-choo talkin' about dr_willis_?02:41
hyperkineitcWhich tool?02:41
dr_willis_MeatRocket: mount? you burn the image to disk. you dont mount it02:42
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)02:42
MeatRocketI am having trouble burning it. I keep getting an error02:42
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dr_willis_like the first link on the fixgrub wiki page02:42
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dr_willis_ive no idea what burning tools exist for osx02:43
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MeatRocketI am using disk utility02:43
hyperkineitcAdaptec toast is #1 3rd party disk burning for OSX02:43
hyperkineitcBut you can do it with disk utility as well02:43
mrsudoerI know of the alternatives available to linux for Google Drive, but what do YOU guys use that works best as a Google Drive client/02:44
somsipmrsudoer: http://tomdignan.com/projects/gdrive-cli/02:44
mrsudoersomsip, i was looking for something a little more graphical :p like Insync, perhaps02:45
loudaslifeIs it possible to get hardware acceleration without proprietary drivers on an ati card?02:47
craigbass1976If I'm in xchat and someone messages me, there's just a little blip in Unity and I miss it.  Is there a way to have something flashing in the top bar like with XFCE and GNOME2?02:47
nearstmrsudoer, then use insync, or try google for it02:48
MeatRocketCould it be possible that I am not using a correct disk? DVD+R won't work to burn the .iso02:48
mrsudoerthank you :)02:48
nearstMeatRocket, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning02:50
shortstraw8I have a lab for school that required me to install  java iced tea, now it is saying that iced tea needs my permission to run how do I do that?02:51
coventryIs this channel logged anywhere?02:51
MeatRocket<nearst> I have searched ever inch of the site, nothing helps02:51
escottshortstraw8, can you give the exact message02:52
hyperkineitcHmmm. So I've got the system up by chrooting. I've run apt-get upgrade and it breaks when upgrading mysql, which was the same error I got thismorning.02:52
somsipcoventry: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/13/%23ubuntu.txt02:52
escottMeatRocket, on the ubuntu.com website there are step by step instructions on how to burn dvds for many different OSes02:53
MeatRocketescott I've look on the website. I've actually done it before but with DVD RW. This time I have DVD +R and I am getting an error02:54
escotthyperkineitc, was it an "apt-get dist-upgrade" or a "do-release-upgrade"02:54
shortstraw8escott,  Im on java.com there is the media window for testing if the plug-in worked, I move the cursor over it and it say  Iced tea need permission to run02:55
escottshortstraw8, yes. click to run. you should absolutely under no circumstances be running java applets from random websites02:56
shortstraw8escott,  When I click on it nothing happens02:57
shortstraw8I installed from software center02:57
escottshortstraw8, given all the security problems they may have put up additional barriers in front of java applets02:58
hyperkineitcI think it was dist-upgrade02:58
escottshortstraw8, i think there is also a different package for the firefox plugin of java from the standard jvm02:58
shortstraw8escott,  Im running chrome02:59
shortstraw8escott,  do I need to manually do it in the file system?02:59
shortstraw8escott,  Just did a update in terminal working now. Thanks03:01
theperfectpunkhello guys03:01
escott!info icedtea-7-plugin | shortstraw803:01
ubottushortstraw8: icedtea-7-plugin (source: icedtea-web): web browser plugin based on OpenJDK and IcedTea to execute Java applets. In component main, is extra. Version 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 77 kB, installed size 258 kB03:01
theperfectpunkI AM trying to compile rts5229 drivers03:01
theperfectpunkrealtek card reader driver03:01
theperfectpunki get this error03:02
theperfectpunkcould anyone have a look at it03:02
MeatRocketfinally got it to work, no thanks to you gurus03:03
theperfectpunkplz help03:03
tad-poleMeatRocket: Does it look like anyone cares?03:04
tad-poleDarn i missed him03:04
tad-poleI dont know how to compile anything   :./ sorry03:04
theperfectpunkthanks anyway03:05
theperfectpunkfor at least not ignoring it03:05
theperfectpunkany developers out here?03:05
escotttheperfectpunk, never compile as root03:05
theperfectpunkit's a drive03:05
theperfectpunkso i just remove sudo?03:06
tad-poleI dont think that was a fix, just a comment.03:06
hyperkineitctheperfectpunk: You have the headers installed, but do you have the kernel source installed?03:06
escotttheperfectpunk, it was a comment never X as root unless you need to be root to do X. compiling is not such an X03:07
hyperkineitcKernel source must match the kernel you're using and must match the headers as well.03:07
theperfectpunkit worked!03:07
theperfectpunkremove sudo03:07
theperfectpunkand it worked03:07
* tad-pole claps for escott03:08
theperfectpunkoops i forgot to put install03:08
theperfectpunkjust used make03:08
escott!info checkinstall | theperfectpunk03:08
ubottutheperfectpunk: checkinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.2-3ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 114 kB, installed size 502 kB03:08
theperfectpunkok i'll check03:09
theperfectpunki have run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic03:09
theperfectpunkto get headers03:09
theperfectpunkescott cud u plz stay there for 1 min03:09
theperfectpunki'll be back03:09
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages03:12
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:13
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages03:13
tad-poleLiving off a sprintPCS 3g signal in a house under giant tree's  SUCKS.03:14
ChrisWereI just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?03:14
escottChrisWere, you can try to xset -dpms03:15
ChrisWereescott: I do that but it only works some of the time03:15
ChrisWereescott: I tried it today, but nothing happened03:15
luissk89hi! how to enable module ndiswrapper ?  both ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper utils are installed. running lubunto03:15
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hyperkineitcI feel your pain tad-pole. My only internet at home has been Sprint 4G. It's 'good enough', but not great03:16
isaiasi I were to install ubuntu on a tablet. would it be touchscreen? :P03:16
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hyperkineitcNot by default03:16
tad-pole3g would be alright without the tree's... I literally get bytes/s :/03:17
hyperkineitcAny idea how far the nearest cell cite is?03:17
ChrisWereescott: any other ideas?03:17
escottChrisWere, not really03:17
tad-poleI just know the direction   I never bothered to look at the distance.03:18
ChrisWereAnyone else? I just installed kubuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?03:18
theperfectpunkescott what was the package?03:18
tad-polechriswere: Did you search for similar problems with similar os/and computer model?03:18
escotttheperfectpunk, checkinstall03:18
ChrisWeretad-pole: yes but I got nothing03:19
tad-poleJust an idea :/03:19
hyperkineitctad-pole: You may want to look into making a passive repeater03:19
theperfectpunkk installed03:19
theperfectpunknow try to compile?03:19
escotttheperfectpunk, use checkinstall instead of make install (if you can for kernel modules... i dont know what the best procedure is there)03:20
tad-polehyperkineitc: We used legit ones in job shacks in the middle of no where and they work great.    I just cant afford them.   and never seen a good tutorial on making one.03:20
tad-poleNot that I looked much03:20
tad-poleWish I had a antenna hookup on my phone :>03:20
hyperkineitcAll you need is a pair of cell antennas connected back to back. One ponted at the cell site, the other beaming into your house.03:21
theperfectpunkjust xecuted checkinstall03:21
ChrisWereAnyone else have any ideas? I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?03:21
nearstbuild your own antenna base station03:21
theperfectpunkhow to use it?03:21
hyperkineitcI would use a beam antenna for the cell side, and a patch antenna for the house side03:21
escotttheperfectpunk, that will create a deb file which you can dpkg -i filename.deb03:21
theperfectpunki just ran checkinstall03:21
theperfectpunkand i get a command line03:22
hyperkineitcThink of it like having a short length of fiber optic bending the signal to where you need it.03:22
theperfectpunkwhat's the syntax?03:22
escotttheperfectpunk, it should prompt you for a package name and version03:22
K3rmitI'm trying to get a usb wireless card to work - atheros but I get this error when trying to load the driver. http://pastebin.com/XHNE1A8303:23
broknbottleK3rmit: what version of ubunut?03:24
theperfectpunkthis is what i get03:24
ChrisWereI just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?03:24
K3rmitbroknbottle Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux03:24
escotttheperfectpunk, its waiting for a description of the package03:24
broknbottleK3rmit: what distro release? that's an older kernel03:25
hyperkineitcK3rmit: What does your dmesg say?03:25
theperfectpunkdescription is ?03:25
theperfectpunki wanna write?03:25
theperfectpunkit's just for reference ?03:26
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escotttheperfectpunk, its a description03:26
hyperkineitcI'd just hit enter03:26
Or6itzAlright, I am new to Ubuntu. Only been on it 3 days and I am hooked. How this OS is not pre installed on all computers surprises me. To steal from Apple, "It Just Works"03:26
theperfectpunkok i wrote the description03:27
ChrisWereAnything that vaguely reference my problem on the forums is at least 3 years out of date? I don't even know why they keep posts on for as long as that03:27
ChrisWereI just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?03:27
theperfectpunkand i get 13 iotion03:27
escotttheperfectpunk, the most important bits are the package name and version (dependencies are also nice if you want to fill those out)03:28
escotttheperfectpunk, but your dependencies are the kernel itself so its less important03:28
isaiasUbuntu TV03:29
theperfectpunkok so hw do i continute now03:29
isaiasHow do I get it? What do I need?03:29
theperfectpunkit says installation failed03:29
HaematomaAnyone here have experience successfully writing udev rules?03:29
walterwoj1I'm trying to install ledgersmb but when I do 'sudo apt-get install ledgersmb' I get 'Unable to locate package ledgersmb'. I think I'm missing a repository but what one and how do I add it?03:30
broknbottleChrisWere: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=10026403:30
Haematomareally confused *scratches head*... all the guide I'm looking at tell me to use vol_id, but it seems to have been replaced by blkid03:30
tad-polehyperkineitc Placing it in the center of a spaghetti strainer seemed to help :P03:30
theperfectpunkit gave permission denied so i ran it as root03:30
escotttheperfectpunk, not everything works with checkinstall03:30
hyperkineitcWhatever works!03:31
escotttheperfectpunk, checkinstall has to be run as root03:31
theperfectpunkand it says package has been installed03:31
nearstsudo -i will work too03:31
theperfectpunkso now it has generated a deb file?03:31
theperfectpunkor has it gotten installed?03:31
escotttheperfectpunk, you should have a deb file in your folder. i always install that deb file03:32
theperfectpunkok i see it03:32
dr_willis_!fnd ledgersmb03:33
dr_willis_!find ledgersmb03:33
ubottuFound: ledgersmb03:33
dr_willis_!info ledgersmb03:34
ubottuledgersmb (source: ledgersmb): Financial accounting and ERP program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.18-1 (quantal), package size 2363 kB, installed size 10436 kB03:34
paws-why are my users able to go to other users home dirs in ssh... how can i stop this?03:35
nearstpaws-, either chroot or jail03:35
tad-polethe R hax u :/03:35
theperfectpunksudo modprobe rts5229 not working03:35
theperfectpunkafter install03:35
dr_willis_!permissions | paws-03:36
ubottupaws-: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions03:36
nearsttheperfectpunk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210412903:36
walterwoj1dr_willis_: Ok, so the package exists (I figured it did) but why do I get that errors?  Can you help me figure it out?03:36
paws-what is the default chmod that my home dir should be?03:36
escottpaws-, you want to change the default umask03:36
isaiasanyone here familiar with Ubuntu TV?03:36
jribpaws-: the default permissions for home let everyone access them (read and execute).  If you don't want that, change it (see ubottu's link)03:37
nearst!ask | isaias03:37
ubottuisaias: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:37
Myrttiisaias: it's not published yet, so no.03:37
dr_willis_walterwoj1: done a sudo apt-get update recently? us the universe repo enabled?03:37
theperfectpunki am trying to install card reader driver not wlan driver03:37
isaiaswhen will it be published? all i find are articles from 2012 stating that it will be released by the end of the year03:38
walterwoj1dr_willis_: Yes to #1 and I'm not sure about the second.  How do I check?03:38
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories03:38
nearsttheperfectpunk, sorry. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206464903:38
escotttheperfectpunk, i think modutils needs to rescan for modules03:39
unheedingdoes anyone know why my compiz settings keep reverting when i log out and back in?03:39
Myrttiisaias: you know exactly as much as most, if not all of us, then03:39
theperfectpunk@nearest will it work for rts5229 too?03:39
dr_willis_unheeding: chwck that your config files are not owned by root by mistake03:40
walterwoj1Jsut to make It a bit more fun, this is on a remote machine ( and I haven't disabled any repositories ) so I only have terminal access.03:42
K3rmithyperkineitc http://pastebin.com/MYmwp4bN & http://pastebin.com/Axz9jbb003:44
tad-poleWhats a good social channel on this network?03:47
* dr_willis_ resists suggesting #foreveralone03:48
tad-poleResistance is Futile?03:51
walterwoj1dr_willis_: I ran 'add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"' to add universe and then 'update' and the 'install ledgersmb' and I still get 'E: Unable to locate package ledgersmb'03:51
john838on ubuntu-server, anyone know how to allow the "sudo reboot" to actually restart the computer? also, how to restore tty screens like ctrl+alt+F1?03:51
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dr_willis_walterwoj1:  the universe repo should be listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list  file.03:58
dr_willis_the partner repo is not the same as the universe repo03:58
dr_willis_whichis what your command would have added.03:59
walterwoj1Dang it, universe is enabled in that list, arrrg!04:02
gladi8erquestion...i think the earlier versions of ubuntu had a 'devices' or 'places' menu where i could install guest additions this is not avail in the new version, is this option still available?04:08
AlbertoCG[Question]I just started using Ubuntu as a VM but it shows in a 4:3 resolution.. How do I switch this to 16:9? It doesn't show the option at Display Settings04:09
tad-poleAlberto: what vm software?04:10
AlbertoCGVirtualBox tad-pole04:11
jose106AlbertoCG, did you install the guest additions?04:12
AlbertoCGjose106, This is my first time using a VM04:12
tad-poleYou can try the scale mode04:12
tad-poleI think you hit right CTRL and C04:13
jose106AlbertoCG, go to Devices and install them. See if that works04:13
tad-poleOr under the "Machine" tab on top04:13
jose106AlbertoCG, or right Alt + D04:14
AlbertoCGtad-pole, that works it displays it, but not the way it's suposed to... Not with the right dimensions04:15
AlbertoCGjose106, I'll try that04:15
jose106AlbertoCG, you might head out to #vbox too04:15
tad-poleAlbertoCG Click and drag to resize it04:15
unheedingso when i launch a program, it starts unmaximized, with the window titlebar underneath the unity panel04:16
unheedingis there any way to fix this?04:16
AlbertoCGjose106, TY04:16
jose106AlbertoCG, np04:16
unheedingi found it, it was the Place Windows plugin04:18
AlbertoCGIt worked n.n They told me the same @ #VBox04:19
ovejanegra_how do i access the files on the hdd from a live cd? in the folder explorer it says i have no authorisation and doesnt ask me for password...04:20
gladi8er[Question] I think the earlier versions of ubuntu had a 'devices' or 'places' menu where i could install guest additions this is not avail in the new version, is this option still available?04:20
devslashbesides ubuntu,lubuntu and kubuntu are there any other ubuntu variants ?04:22
unheedinggladi8er: what exactly are you tryinng to install?04:22
unheedingdevslash: Xubuntu, with the Xfce desktop environment.  There's also Ubuntu Gnome Remix, with Gnome Shell04:22
devslashI'm using ubuntu in a VM but it is so painfully slow04:23
unheedingdevslash: Linux Mint is almost a variant of Ubuntu (it's based on it, but not associated).  they include two main choices:  MATE and Cinnamon04:23
histodevslash: xubuntu04:23
unheedingdevslash: I found running things in VM super slow until I enabled VM acceleration in my BIOS04:23
unheedingdevslash: it wasn't enabled by default04:23
devslashyou enabled 3d accel?04:23
histodevslash: You need vm acceleration and 3d accell04:23
histodevslash: unity is running compiz and relies heavily on modern video cards.04:24
devslashwhats do you mean vm acceleration ?04:24
devslashI'm using virtualbox04:24
histo!derivatives | devslash04:24
ubottudevslash: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)04:24
devslashid really like to get ubuntu 12.10 to work04:24
gladi8erim new to this so im not sure. is there a way to find this out easily?04:25
unheedingwell, if you go under settings... System -> acceleration04:25
histodevslash: Install guest additions?04:25
unheedingdevslash: mine is an AMD chip, so it says "Enable VT-x/AMD-V"04:25
unheedingwhen i selected it, it gave me an error saying it wasn't enabled, so I went into the BIOS and found the switch04:25
devslashyea i have that setting in virtual box and it is enabled04:25
histogladi8er: are you running a virtual guest?04:26
ovejanegra_how do i access the files of the users from a live cd, please?04:27
gladi8eri wish i could answer that.  a friend of minegave me instructions on setting up the virtual machine with ubuntu and that is one of his instructions. he mentioned an earlier version of ubuntu but i have the latest04:28
gladi8erive set up a firewall thru vmvb and ubuntu04:28
histogladi8er:You have to install them through virtualbox.04:28
histogladi8er: it will mount an iso on the guest and you can install it there. They maybe in the repos let me look04:29
rj_hey guys. i am a complete ubuntu noob -  i almost have it all set up -  i have a few simple questions ...anyone want to be a pal and help a brother out ? :)04:31
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/04:31
dr_willis_whats the specific questions. ;)04:31
histogladi8er: ask in #vbox on here.04:31
gladi8erthanks histo04:31
histogladi8er: or in virtualbox if they still have this select devices > Install guest additions04:32
gladi8erits not there04:32
histogladi8er: ask in #vbox then they will know04:32
gladi8erthanks again04:32
rj_:) ....have a thumb drive and want to run live ..... when i suspend, after i wake er up it freezes when it trys to have me log in .....i want to have it not do that but the option is blanked out (12.10)04:34
historj_: Shouldn't be happening. Possibly a bug.04:35
rj_:( ...04:35
dr_willis_cant say ive ever tried to suspend or hibernate from a live-usb04:36
histoWell suspend doesn't use any swap so I dont' see it being an issue. Unless there is an IO problem with getting the info to RAM from USB prior to the suspend.04:37
histobeing that USB is so slow.04:37
rj_i just want to b able to shut er down for the night and have er load back up without reboot ....or i have to take 10 min to reconfigure my network settings04:37
rj_slow i can deal with  - compared to having nothing04:39
historj_: Well you can't hibernate without swap that is larger than RAM04:40
historj_: Are you trying to hibernate or suspend?04:40
SuperLagIf you have to reinstall... do you guys have any advice on how to do a faster post-install configuration? (your favorite apps, custom configuration, ssh keys... etc.)04:41
rj_can i install to the usb......i use my 7 in my office (no wireless) micro pc has wireless but the hdd bricked so i want to use the ubuntu for my movies and internet sharing (to the 7)04:42
rj_i just dont want to keep er on all the time and i dont want to set it up every time i reebot04:44
histoyes you can install to usb or04:46
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:46
historj_: ^^04:46
rj_;) thanks histo...ill give er a look04:47
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vnc786i want apache(basic+advance) book can some one tell me which is the best book for apache learning from scratch right now i am reading Apache Administrators Handbook05:14
axtranvnc786: Do you think you'll learn on a book?  I learn best by trial and error personally05:14
vnc786axtran: i agree with you and i am doing practice also but at same time i also prefer to read.05:17
dr_willis_I tend to grab whatever books I find in the bargin bins05:17
axtranvnc786: There are many scenarios where apache is used in many ways, use cases, load... But since its core hasn't changed much, you can really just find the cheapest online like at amazon.com05:18
vnc786axtran: for example: i came to know that when apache gets request 1st it check virtual host.and so on...this lead to read books..05:19
dr_willis_see what books get the best rewiews at amazon05:21
RJ_im back guys ....i have more problems installing to usb which i dont want to get too deep on .....anyone think of a way to - sleep - hibernate - suspend (Live) without having it ask for password on wake up?05:21
vnc786dr_willis: axtran : thanks will let u know if found some intersting..05:23
axtranRJ_: You can specify no password challenge, no?05:25
RJ_sorry total noob here ??????05:26
histoRJ_: Change the power settings05:26
histoGear > system settings > power05:26
RJ_ill have a look ;)05:27
histoRJ_: or open gnome-control-center from a terminal05:27
RJ_1 min05:28
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chaz68Just when I think I had the ".xsession-errors.old" file in my home directory beaten down I get a huge "lightdm.log" file in my "/var/log/upstart" directory.05:29
Luanany one explain what is a ssh tunnel ?05:29
chaz68Anybody have this one after piping .xsession-errors.old to >/dev/null?05:30
RJ_does G-C-C just open up a new terminal "line" thingy05:30
dr_willis_a   .old file  world be a log backup. dosent make mech sence to pipe it05:31
ImprovHey all; after a stock install without hardware-specific X drivers, should glxinfo work (presumably through MesaGL)?05:31
chaz68"lightdm.log" swelled up to like 60+ GB and then started giving my little Ubuntu box out of hard disk message.05:32
ImprovAccording to xdpyinfo the GLX extension is enabled, but I get a BadRequest (X_GLXQueryServerString) when I try glxinfo.05:32
RJ_i am going to revert to the other Live settings that worked for me brb05:33
chaz68dr_willis:  Here's a better explanation of what I did.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151799105:33
chaz68These .xsession-errors files swelling up to gargantuan proportions seems to be pretty common problem out there.05:33
chaz68Also see here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205446705:34
chaz68I probably should have just installed from scratch but here I am getting log files swelling up my disk size every week.05:34
dydzEz2whats a good pdf viewer for ubuntu05:35
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chaz68It's like whack a mole...05:35
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Guest98103chmod: cannot access `/home/vikas/.gvfs': Permission denied05:40
Guest98103how i can fix this05:41
tad-poleGet permission.05:41
dr_willis_leave. gvfs alone.  its special05:41
dr_willis_what are you trying to do?05:41
matthewvzGuest98103: Use sudo or su and run it as root?05:43
Guest98103dr_willis_: i configure nagios ,in that it is showing ofr diskspace,permission denied05:43
Guest98103matthewvz: i done root and chmod +r05:44
dr_willis_  .gvfs us a special virtual filesyste.05:44
dr_willis_best to not just be slapping chmods on it05:44
Guest98103dr_willis_: what else to do05:44
Guest98103dr_willis_: my nagios is shwoing my disk space critical05:45
dr_willis_tell nagios to ignore gvfs05:45
Guest98103dr_willis_: i need then how i can view my disk space05:49
nearstdf -h05:49
dr_willis_.gvfs is not the space you are looking for...  i imagine.05:50
dr_willis_i just rightclick --> Properies.. in the file manager  nirmally..05:51
Guest98103dr_willis_: let me do05:52
histothese are not the droids your are looking for...05:53
tech-mike...your jedi mind tricks do not work on me05:53
nearstadb devices05:53
histoWhat about adb?05:53
histoYou down with adb05:53
histoI've never seen this room so slow wow.05:54
areumeglad to see im not the only one who felt the urge to post that quote over that statment05:54
dr_willis_ topic stick to. you will...05:54
histosorry just boredom.05:54
ImprovIf I have one of those funky 2-video-card laptops, is there a good way to figure out which one is active right now?05:55
histoImprov: The intel is unless you tell it to activate the nvidia explicitly05:56
histoor ati05:56
nearstImprov, ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch05:56
Improvnearst: I have no such thing.05:56
Improvhisto: Interesting. I'm trying to get GLX apps to stop stop segfaulting, and I imagine it might be related to the 2-video-card oddity.05:57
RJ_well i have a 7 pc and a micro itx (hdd bricked) on my hdtv - all i want to do with my itx is have xbmc on it and have it share internet to my 7pc i have a spare 2gb flash drive but thats it i can run it live but i cant get it to wake up properly . any ideas ....Ubuntu Server? :)05:57
Improvhisto: Maybe removing all the ATI stuff will make things start working?05:57
nearstImprov, look for hybridgraphic wiki05:58
Improvnearst: Ok, thanks05:59
dr_willis_RJ_: why hbernate at all? i leave my xbmc box on all day05:59
nearstImprov, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide05:59
RJ_???? i dont want it to run 24-7 ???? make it last longer???06:00
dr_willis_sorry to many? ??? marks....06:00
RJ_things are tight now and i would cry if my itx gave out on me06:00
dr_willis_hibernate dosent work with all hardware.06:01
keplerit is also probably more work for the machine to hibernate and come out of it -- if you're using it every day06:02
histoRJ_: YOu can't hibernate without swap06:02
histoRJ_: You want to suspend not hibernate06:02
* Improv stares at grub2's intimidating config hierarchy06:02
dr_willis_intimidating? never noticed...06:03
Improvdr_willis: I'm used to grub1. Trying to figure out how to add params to the kernel to boot06:03
dr_willis_Improv:  /etc/default/grub06:03
histoImprov: edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo update-grub06:03
ImprovOh. That's much nicer.06:04
nearst'e' at grub menu06:04
lasersRJ_: My XBMC shut down when it's not in use for 15 minutes. (Living room)06:04
dr_willis_the    quiet splash line.....06:04
ImprovWas looking in /etc/grub.d/ and that was freaky stuff.06:04
histoRJ_: How are you putting the machine to sleep?06:04
dr_willis_grub.d is very straight forward.. and rarely needs edited06:04
dr_willis_just bash scripts06:05
agrestringere_Just a quick and random question, I have this strange VIM issue.  I have vim-gnome installed on a work computer running Ubuntu and there's this weird screen corruption thing where the fonts get corrupted and I am unable to use VIM.  However, everything works fine when running VIM in Terminal.  Should I switch that out to vim-gtk or vim-athena?06:05
fluvvelli have removed all non standard sources from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and read many forums, but I still find that do-release-upgrade will not offer a path from 10.04.4 to 12.04 on my laptop06:06
nearstany vim different between gtk and terminal ?06:06
Cubhey dr_willis  you know if there is a way to install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 12.10?06:06
dr_willis_Cub:  the old kde? doubtfull.06:06
fluvvellwho is the go-to guy/girl for do-release-upgrade fix ups?06:06
nearstfluvvell, check either normal/lts at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrade and do sudo do-release-upgrade -c06:07
Cubaww i dont liike plasma :\06:07
fluvvellnearst; yes have checked that already, its set to lts06:07
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dr_willis_kde4 works well for me. for the little ive used it06:08
dr_willis_cub check out that qt-razer or razor project06:08
Cubok i will do that..06:09
fluvvellnearst, and the ever continuing response is No new release found06:09
Cubi tried installing trinity desktop and wouldnt work..06:09
dr_willis_"its dead jim!"06:10
fluvvellits a pity that do-release-upgrade doesn't have a debug output where you can see more from the script06:10
nearstfluvvell, http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts06:10
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:12
thirumalhello mynotes06:12
Cubanother question, would it be worth it to install synaptic on ubuntu 12.10 ? If so how would i go about doing this?06:12
Ben64Cub: search the software center for it06:12
nearstsudo apt-get install synaptic06:13
fluvvellnearst, read that - only thing I havn't tried yet is disk in the drive, will try it now.06:13
Bon-changuys, how can i properly install java in firefox? i have some java when i try about:plugins but im still having problems with some pages06:15
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/06:16
dr_willis_hmm. I just follow the !java factoid wiki page06:16
nearstBon-chan, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer06:16
dr_willis_but flash is not java.. ;)06:16
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.06:17
Bon-chanbut how would i know witch one to install?06:17
dr_willis_flip a coin? use the one in the repos.. the iced tea one perhaps.. unless you lkmnow you need the others06:18
serp_you need jre06:18
Bon-chanwell, with a java -version i got this:06:18
Bon-chanjava version "1.6.0_24"06:18
Bon-chanOpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.5) (6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~12.04.1)06:18
Bon-chanOpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)06:18
dr_willis_theres a java-plugin package also i belive06:18
elena-IKProblem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. The fact that the problem is with the circumflex key makes me think of a keyboard layout related problem. I'm using de nodeadkeys. Any ideas?06:18
dr_willis_elena-IK:  make a new user. see if the issue also affects them perhaps? if it affexts all users.. that would point to a odd system setting quirk/bug.06:19
dr_willis_if the new user works properly.. that points  to a setting/ownership issue with the problem user06:20
pianojakehi i have a question regarding mouse capabilities. It was available at one point but not anymore. its when i move my mouse into the top right corner it would bring all the windows into one screen to be able to choose which one to use. what happened to that?06:22
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Cubpianojake, what desktop environment is that and what version of ubuntu?06:23
hpuser4466LCD dims for a split second and goes normal again. Happens every so often.  Any ideas how to fix?  Dell D60006:24
pianojakeCub 12.04 lts and the stock, unity i guess06:24
Cubnot sure on unity, i use gnome-shell and it has a hotspot on the upper left corner..06:25
pianojakeit also used to bring the desktop up when i moved it into the top right corner06:26
bazhangpianojake, gnome-shell does that with the top left06:27
Cubpianojake,  check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/101310/show-all-running-windows-when-moving-mouse-pointer-to-top-left-corner-hotspot06:27
pianojakebazhang what other choices of launchers are there?06:27
pianojakeCub thanks06:27
dr_willis_the compiz expose function shows all windows in a spread out view i belive06:29
dr_willis_theres numerous compiz features that are not enabled by default.06:30
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz06:30
hpuser4466I'm using kernel boot option "nomodeset" and after a reboot the screen resolution keeps changing.  How do i keep my resolution at 1280x960?06:34
dr_willis_whats your video chipset?06:35
dr_willis_and what is the res changeing to?06:35
hpuser4466dr_willis: radeon RV250 Mobility FireFL 900006:36
hpuser4466Dell inspiron D60006:36
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dr_willis_you using the radeon drivers or the fglrx drivers?06:36
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hpuser4466resolution changing to 1400x1050 by default each boot.   lsmod says i'm using radeon driver.06:37
hpuser4466what's the console command to set resolution. I'll add that to a bootup script.06:40
dr_willis_so the monitor cant handle that res? or is that the native res for the montor?06:40
dr_willis_the monitors/display tool is supposed to allow each user to set their own desktop res also. thats saved06:41
hpuser4466Yes the monitor handles all resolutions fine, except i'm having a problem with the screen blinking/diming every so often. Possibly a hardware fault, but i'm trying to eliminate any possible software causes.06:41
tasslehoffWhat is the default greeter-session in lightdm.conf on 12.10. I went from lightdm to gdm, but when I try to go back I get the "low graphics mode" on every boot.06:41
tasslehoffthe system thinks it will only manage low graphics, but it works just fine...06:42
nearstxrandr -q06:43
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apk508I am using Dell Inspiron 1501, so I have to use extra command: nomodeset06:43
Phryqis there a way to make Ubuntu connect to the internet using both a wireless and wired connection at the same time?06:51
PhryqFor more speed?06:51
vedicI have my server located at remote place. I would need to take real time backup of data coming to that server as another server at another location would need that. Is it good to use OpenVPN and then do rsync? or rsync itself is good enough. Security is important as it is customer's sensitive data. Also, for regular maintainance is it advice to use OpenVPN compared to ssh?06:55
aeon-ltdPhryq: let's say your router can do 100mbps through eth, are you really getting so much from your isp that 100mbps is not enough?06:56
cfhowlettvedic, perhaps ask this query in #ubuntu-server ???06:56
webman_openvpn provides an encrypted connection, so does ssh, not much difference IMHO06:56
SuperLagwell... the VPN may slow things down a bit06:57
SuperLagyet another layer to work through06:57
elena-IKdr_willis: affects all users, but somehow autologin affects the problem. I disabled autologin for testing, the keybinding worked fine for both users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keybinding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works.06:57
PrincessLunaHi, I am trying to boot Kubuntu 12.10 in Uefi mode and it shows the grub screen but hangs on a black screen when booting. Same issue with secureboot on or off06:58
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PrincessLunaSystem is a Lenovo Thinkpad06:58
SuperLagvedic: it depends on your level of concern. If security is of the utmost concert, do both.06:58
vedicSuperLag: Data is not large. Its audio files (around 30 audios/minutes coming to server) and each file is just 100KB06:58
SuperLagvedic: if it's just audio, I'd do SSH.06:59
SuperLagvedic: use public keys, and lock SSH down. Disable password authentication.06:59
SuperLagvedic: then you can use cron jobs to automate your backups06:59
vedicSuperLag: I see. You mean, using public/private keys and rsync in ssh mode?07:00
SuperLagvedic: yes, sir07:00
vedicSuperLag: Data needs to be transferred in real time07:00
SuperLagvedic: in real-time?07:00
SuperLagvedic: why the need for real-time transfers?07:01
vedicSuperLag: The moment an audio arrives, it should be sent to another server immediately. Faster the better07:01
SuperLagvedic: okay... but why?07:01
ubottuPrincessLuna,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter07:01
SuperLagvedic: is this for phone calls, where you need MTA-like responsiveness?07:02
SuperLagvedic: like... are these voicemail messages or something like that?07:02
vedicSuperLag: Second server does assembling of audio files (100 Kbs are attached in order) and sends it to third party.07:03
PrincessLunacfhowlett: Shouldn't I assume Intel 4000 HD should work?07:03
SuperLagvedic: in that case, you may want to do a hard-coded VPN connection... that'll be done at the router level, more than likely.07:03
PrincessLunacfhowlett: If booting in legacy mode it works07:04
vedicSuperLag: Why VPN? can't it be done using ssh + rsync?07:04
vedicas you suggested07:04
SuperLagvedic: real-time07:04
SuperLagvedic: transferring files will not be real-time07:04
SuperLagI mean, even over a VPN, there will be *some* delay07:05
lasersVery SuperLag07:05
aeon-ltdwhy not just stream instead of copying?07:05
vedicSuperLag: At max 5 sec of waiting is allowed but more will be observed by the third party07:06
SuperLag5 seconds is not real-time07:06
vedicSuperLag: How about drdb?07:06
ZoopHello, I am having a problem with stopping MySQL from a Cron job.  I think it might be related to connections that are still connect.  Although running the stop script manually will work.07:06
SuperLagvedic: your process is going to generate the file, it will be written to the drive, then you have to initate the process of running your rsync, then an SSH session gets opened, file gets copied over, bits are probably checked in the process, session closed... on to the next audio file, lather, rinse, repeat07:06
vedicSuperLag: Hmm...07:07
SuperLagvedic: I don't know what drdb is07:07
mgolischits a block device replication thing07:08
SuperLagvedic: if you have a good connection from point A to point B... and the files are 100K max... this very well could be done in <= 5 seconds. However, that is not real-time.07:08
mgolischit basicaly allow for a block device to be replicated over a network connection07:08
cfhowlettPrincessLuna, assumptions ... well .... try nomodeset to get in.  then do your settings....07:08
SuperLagvedic: try SSH, see if it works. If it does, cheap solution. :)07:09
SuperLagvedic: that said... I'd do key-only, and disable password authentication.07:09
SuperLagvedic: that will keep dictionary attackers out07:10
vedicSuperLag: yea, that would be good07:10
SuperLagvedic: there are more than likely a whole bunch of other things you should do to secure those systems... but I'm not a security expert.07:10
vedicSuperLag: yea, I understand the security will be a concern07:12
sxaSup everyone07:13
PrincessLunacfhowlett: Tried, same issue07:14
p201SuperLag, please, tell more about why VPN is better for real-time backup?07:15
ZoopInteresting.  So the upstart code seems not to wait for the app to die.  from a cron job anyway.07:16
Zoopcommandline it will wait for it.07:16
lost_RDHey guys, looking for some basic tech support regarding JVM07:19
HaliteThe battery sensor is really accurate.07:19
HaliteEnergy when full is 11.3, but Energy (design) is 43.2!07:20
RavitejaHi My name is RaviTeja. I have a query..Could anyone please help... I had installed ubuntu 12.04 64-bit desktop edition in a machine. The hardware configuration of the machine is its a HP manufacture with, i5 processor 4 GB RAM and 250-GB Hard-disk. I installed lamp-stack in the machine and configured mysql database. This is for an local office purpose and a survey form is included in the document root of the apache. it will have at07:20
cfhowlettPrincessLuna, IDK what it could be.  Assuming you have a good iso (md5um, right?) the inconsistent boot is confusing.  please stay in channel and ask again07:21
RavitejaNow the question is is there any limit for concurrent connections for the machine? If so, how do i increase the concurrent connections?07:22
cfhowlettRaviteja, might be a good question for #ubuntu-server ...07:22
HaliteWhy can't I hibernate07:22
ubottuHalite,: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info07:23
lost_RDError: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.07:23
lost_RDError: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.07:23
lost_RDfatal error: A process has ended with a probable error condition: process ended with exit code 1.07:23
sxaRaviteja,isnt it limited by the channel width? By default i mean07:23
Zooplost_RD: You might give us a little information.07:26
cfhowlettlost_RD, perhaps ask in #java channel ...07:26
ZoopLooks like the old windows general protection fault. ;)07:26
RavitejaHi sxa, Actually our band-width is about 30 mbps..I hope it would be sufficient for accessing. Please correct me if i were wrong..07:26
ZoopSo If I change an upstart .conf file is there something I have to do to have the system start using that?07:26
lost_RDcfhowlett: I'll try there first and come back if need be07:27
Zooplost_RD: What is the program?07:27
lost_RDZoop: Just hoping somebody recognises the error07:27
Zooplost_RD: It is too generic I don't think anyone will know.07:27
lost_RDZoop: It's a wrapper for a server, I don't know how the wrapper executes Java07:27
cfhowlettHalite, have you enabled swap?  no swap = no hibernate07:27
Zooplost_RD: What are you running to get the error?07:27
ZoopWhat server?07:28
AlbertoC1196Hello n.n07:28
Halitecfhowlett, I don't have a physical disk07:28
lost_RDZoop: Non-vanilla Minecraft07:28
cfhowlettHalite, so it's virtual?07:28
lost_RDZoop: Don't judge!07:28
Halitecfhowlett, I haven't swapped yet, because I don't know my RAM etc. yet07:29
Zoopahha, I'm not it just makes more sense.07:29
ZoopI had the same problem trying to run older versions.  I could never get it to work right.07:29
cfhowlettHalite, ...07:29
lost_RDI'll see what #java has to say07:29
tad-poleand salutations07:29
ZoopI think there is some other program out there that is suppose to be able to start older versions.  I never got it going though.07:29
PrincessLunaHi, I am trying to boot Kubuntu 12.10 in Uefi mode and it shows the grub screen but hangs on a black screen when booting. Same issue with secureboot on or off.07:29
ZoopGood luck.07:29
cfhowlettnearst, greetings again07:29
cfhowlettPrincessLuna, what hardware are you on?07:30
nearstcfhowlett, ty07:30
PrincessLunacfhowlett: Lenovo Thinkpad s230u07:30
lolmausWhat is the recommended way of uploading files to Amazon Glacier via console?07:30
keplerlost_RD: try opening terminal and /usr/bin/javaws /path/to/minecraft07:30
Haliteooh, Minecraft in Ubuntu.07:31
joshlegslots of peeps up in here07:31
lost_RDkepler: Java Web Start splash screen process exiting ..... Splash: X11 connection failed: No such file or directory07:31
keplerits broke!07:32
lost_RDkepler: I'm running server 12.04, is it trying to execute a desktop variant of Java?07:32
keplerno idea. i thought you wanted to play, not be a server07:32
nearstjava -jar minecraft.jar?07:33
Myrttilost_RD: there is no separate versions of Java for server and desktop07:33
Halitekepler, that's just the verion of Ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu 12.10.07:33
Halitejava -jar file07:33
Halitethat works with every .jar file07:33
lost_RDHalite: That worked. Must be the wrapper failing. Thanks!07:35
lost_RDand nearst, thanks07:35
nearstlost_RD, supposely it worked on every jar file07:35
Zooplost_RD: you have the right classpath set?07:37
lost_RDMyrtti: I tried OpenJDK which didn't work so added a repo to install Sun Java. At that point I didn't know what I was downloading.07:37
ZoopI guess it is a jar so maybe try specifying it with -jar /path/to/file.jar07:37
Zoopsoemthing like that07:37
ZoopI still never got it to work right.07:37
Zoopit would always look for the ~/.minecraft/something/.jar file.07:37
lost_RDZoop: Erm, possibly not. I've done a little classpath stuff in Windows, making "java" point to the executable07:38
lost_RDBut java -jar worked so that must not be the problem07:39
Zooplost_RD: do you have a .minecraft dir?07:39
aguuuHello. I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE on virtualbox. Installed vbox additions, and can share clipboard, etc. But I cannot get the automatic screen resolution resizing from guest to host. Any ideas?07:39
shingiIm neew to linux07:39
lost_RDZoop: No, not required for servers07:39
shinginew to ubanta07:39
Zooplost_RD: This an older version of the server you are trying to run?07:39
lost_RDshingi: You may want to try #ubanta then07:40
kryptohey is there a way to differentiate  minimal VM and Normal? uname -a is showing same kernel info ,is there any other way?07:40
shingilost rd, what do you mean? :)07:40
lost_RDZoop: Current version of MC, Ubuntu 12.0407:40
shingiIm trying #ubanta right nwo07:40
shingiIm on it now, and im likeing it :)07:40
lost_RDshingi: This is #ubuntu, not #ubanta07:41
aguuuHello. I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE on virtualbox. Installed vbox additions, and can share clipboard, etc. But I cannot get the automatic screen resolution resizing from guest to host. Any ideas?07:41
Zoopjava -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui07:41
Zoopthat is the command I use to start my server.07:41
shingihow do i create like07:41
flintserhow to minecraft: install java, download minecraft, set +x to minecraft.jar, if you want to open it from desktop just right-click -> open with openjdk, if you want to launch it from terminal, type java -jar /path/to/minecraft.jar07:41
cfhowlettaguuu, after installing guest additions, logout, login07:41
shingia shortcut to open a program07:41
shingie.g open firefox = ctr + i07:41
shingihow do i do that?07:42
flintser!enter | shingi07:42
ubottushingi: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:42
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shingiguys, how do i create like a shortcut to open firefox  E.g to open firefox i press ctr + F07:43
shingi guys, how do i create like a shortcut to open firefox  E.g to open firefox i press ctr + F07:44
flintser!patience | sshingi07:44
ubottusshingi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:44
PrincessLunacfhowlett: Apparently working after a bios update but only with secure boot off. Should this matter?07:44
flintsersystem settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts07:45
flintsershingi: ^07:45
shingi thanks flintser!07:45
cfhowlettPrincessLuna, if it works, run with it and good luck.07:45
aguuudoes anybody here use linux as their main OS?07:45
aguuuit's impossible for me07:45
ZoopGive up.07:46
shingii use linux as main Os, windows sucks07:46
kepleri do.07:46
ubottuaguuu: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.07:46
* cfhowlett lets' see, ubuntu support channel, several thousand onoin07:46
aguuuok. Who uses linux as their main os here?07:46
keplersee channel list >07:46
somsip!poll | aguuu07:46
ubottuaguuu: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:46
ZoopWhat does it matter?07:46
broknbottlewho doesn't?07:46
cfhowlettaguuu, that's not a support question ...07:46
shingihow to you open website link in termnial? :)07:48
Fuzzlesif i duel boot ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 how do i fix boot when i remove 13.04?07:48
dominic_aguuu, just ask your real question..i'm pretty sure people around here can answer it07:48
linda666hi, my laptop keeps hanging while playing a video in browser (youtube, streaming online, etc.). it gets totally frozen and i have to shut it down ugly by pressing power button what possibly could be the cause of this?07:48
webman_shingi: you can use wget, curl, or lynx or links....07:48
cfhowlettFuzzles, much MUCH easier to run your test repos in virtualbox ...07:48
cfhowlettlinda666, try a different browser ...07:49
Fuzzlescfhowlett, how do i get it to run smoothly then?07:49
cfhowlettlinda666, cause: flash?07:49
linda666happens in chrome, firefox, opera, ...07:49
cfhowlettFuzzles, smoothly?  explain more07:49
cfhowlettlinda666, have you got the restricted extras installed?07:50
linda666cfhowleft, not sure, trying to lookup logs. feels like a kernel panic07:50
Fuzzlescfhowlett, with good performance07:50
flintserFuzzles: for smoother graphics install guest additions and allow more of your graphics card to vm07:50
linda666proprietary drivers, yes. but mostly was for NIC as i remember07:50
Fuzzlesflintser, ok thanks07:51
cfhowlettlinda666, I suggest sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras     on the chance that you might still need some codecs ...07:52
vedicWhy DSA is limited to 1024 on ubuntu? in FIPS 183-3, it is mentioned that it can go upto 307207:52
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muklinda666, right click on a flash window and disable hardware acceleration07:52
shinao1Hi! I tried to enable desktop on a remote 11.10 ubuntuserver machine but that ended badly. now I'm told that the virtual logins dont show when the server is fully booted up and there is no linux admin there. Please is there a way to (1) check that the virtual terminals are up remotely and (2)  totally remove all desktop packages?07:52
shinao1by up i mean that they can see the login prompt07:53
dydzEz2does ubuntu gnome remix include classic gnome07:53
cfhowlettdydzEz2, remix isn't supported here ...07:54
dydzEz2oh ok07:54
roger_besides emailing the webhost of a site that is phishing, is there anything else that can be done?07:54
dydzEz2might as well just get gnome 3 str8 up on regular ubuntu07:54
kryptois there a way to differentiate  minimal VM and Normal installation? uname -a is showing same kernel info ,is there any other way?07:55
stroodlepuphow do i fix the hotspot in my installation?>07:56
histokrypto: What do you mean by "normal" install?07:56
histokrypto: Are you trying to determine if it's installed on a VM or actual hardware?07:57
kryptohisto: with all packages07:57
kryptoi want to install it as vm07:57
cfhowlettstroodlepup, you mean you can't get on wifi?07:58
kryptowe can select minimal vm,minmal os,Normal07:58
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cfhowletthelmut_, greetings07:58
stroodlepupI tried setting up a wifi hotspot,, it worked once, but it does not work anymore07:58
kryptohisto: i choose minimal vm but i am not able to feel any difference even kernel is similar07:59
ubottustroodlepup,: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing07:59
stroodlepupit's to tablet07:59
histokrypto: What do you mean you chose minimal vm?08:00
kryptowhile installing ubuntu from cd i cliked F4 and choose Modes> there we have 4 options,Normal,Install  a Minimal system,Install a Minimal VM08:01
kryptohisto: i chose Install Minimal VM08:01
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stroodlepupi meant 'setting up a hotspot' a la connectify08:02
cfhowlettstroodlepup, you're RUNNING a hotspot from a tablet?  color me impressed?08:02
kryptohisto: i want to verify the difference b/w normal and minimal vm.08:02
histokrypto: Is this installed on a VM or actual hardware?08:02
linda666cfhowlet, some stuff has happened on my syslog that doesnt make sence at all...08:02
kryptohosto: as vm08:03
stroodlepupfrom my laptop.... and yes, hotspot apps a re available for android08:03
shinao1Hi! I tried to enable desktop on a remote 11.10 ubuntuserver machine but that ended badly. now I'm told that the virtual logins dont show when the server is fully booted up and there is no linux admin there. Please is there a way to (1) check that the virtual terminals are up remotely and (2)  totally remove all desktop packages?08:03
histokrypto: Not familiar with that option08:03
linda666cfhowlet, here my kernel logs... http://pastebin.com/c60iYDw2 from a standby on 1pm to 3pm wake up and then dead frozen...08:03
roger_besides emailing the webhost of a site that is phishing, is there anything else that can be done?08:03
kryptohisto: on xen,i want to convert this hvm instance to para virt instance,since 10.04 has no direct support for xen :(08:04
linda666cfhowlet, i cant understand what are the frequency logs!08:04
kryptohisto: ok :)08:04
stroodlepup cfhowlett: i need to connect my laptop to an android tablet using ubuntu's wireless hotspot08:04
cfhowlettstroodlepup, so your mentioning of "tablet" was referring to ???08:04
cfhowlettstroodlepup, anyway, what hotspot admin software are you running?08:05
stroodlepupubuntu's default one08:05
stroodlepupit only worked properly. once08:05
cfhowlettlinda666, love to see them, but for some reason, the great china firewall is blocking pastebin today.  sorry.08:06
linda666cfhowlet, what else can you open besides pastebin? im getting really sure the error is from NIC actually based on syslogs...08:07
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)08:07
cfhowlettstroodlepup, got it.      http://tumutanzi.com/archives/819508:07
cfhowlettstroodlepup, http://my.oschina.net/banxi/blog/5230408:07
cfhowlettstroodlepup, and www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvnh8TsFEU08:08
cfhowlettlinda666, this firewall thing is so frustrating and unpredictable ...  half the time imgur and everything else is blocked08:08
linda666cfhowlett, for some reason, i completely understand! :D08:09
cfhowlettlinda666, ask again in this channel.  I'm going to have to pass...08:10
stroodlepuphas anyone here ever tried connectify?08:13
aguuusudo apt-get install dropbox Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package dropbox08:14
hillaryhow to create a distro08:14
aguuuwhy?? I thought installing software on linux was done like this.08:14
iceroot!info dropbox08:15
icerootaguuu: there is no package called "dropbox" in the repos08:15
ubottuPackage dropbox does not exist in quantal08:15
cfhowlettaguuu, or you could use softwar cente4r08:15
icerootaguuu: but yes that is the way to go when there is a package in the repos08:15
aguuui don't get it. do i have to install it windows-style?08:15
cfhowlettaguuu, repos ...08:15
aguuuwhy can't i install it linux-style??08:16
icerootaguuu: there is no package called "dropbox" in the repos08:16
cfhowlettaguuu, because it's not in the repos08:16
icerootaguuu: and its not linux-style, its debian/ubuntu style to use apt-get08:16
cfhowlettaguuu,  in other words, see the line for how to install dropbox and follow the instructions08:17
aguuucfhowlett: how is that a good excuse?08:17
icerootaguuu: ask dropbox, we are not dropbox and not maintaining it08:17
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aguuucfhowlett: i'm installing it windows-style now. but what is the point in having no standard way to install software?08:17
cfhowlettaguuu, not an excuse it's an explanation.  and a server sysop such as yourself is certainly aware that most software has more than one method of installation08:17
yh66gDoes anyone know how to modify yaboot to boot to terminal on ppc ubuntu 12.04.1?08:17
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cfhowlettaguuu, for the record, installing .deb packages is a MINIMAL requirement for administering ubuntu sytems ..l08:19
aguuucfhowlett: yes. why is there no standard way of installing software on linux?08:20
linda666cfhowlett, no prob08:20
cfhowlettaguuu, take it up with dropbox.  read more.  post less08:20
linda666hi everyone again :D my laptop keeps hanging usually when streaming online in browser, but my logs say something else... here my kernel logs... http://pastebin.com/c60iYDw2 from a standby on 1pm to 3pm wake up and then dead frozen... anyone has any idea for the cause of this?08:21
aguuucfhowlett: dropbox is not the exception. there is no point in that.08:21
cfhowlettaguuu, I suggest you investigate and invest in the LCPI 1 certificate.  ALL such questions will be answered ...08:21
RJ_sorry guys ,,,storm front knocked the net out......could someone please show me where to find out how to make a script to set up my network automatically (connect to wifi and share net with eth) desktop 12.10 (live mode) please08:23
icerootaguuu: could you stop to say "in linux"? 1. linux is just a kernel, 2. the system itself is called GNU/Linux, 3. there are different distros which are managing software-installations on different ways (binary distro, source based distro and so on), 4. not every software is part of the ubuntu-repos08:23
ikoniaRJ_: the network manager tool can o that for you08:23
icerootaguuu: and if something is not in the ubuntu-repos there is the way to use a ppa (repo from third party)08:24
iceroot!ppa | aguuu08:24
ubottuaguuu: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge08:24
aguuuiceroot: linux is used as a synonym for gnu/linux08:24
icerootaguuu: no08:24
icerootaguuu: linux is a kernel08:24
RJ_NMT will google ;)08:24
aguuuiceroot: as i said, linux is used as a synonym for gnu/linux08:24
icerootaguuu: GNU/Linux is a system based on the linux-kernel with a lot of tools from the GNU project08:25
* cfhowlett ... and it begins. 08:25
ubottuaguuu: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux08:25
dzuplinux is not a real OS08:25
kepleraguuu is just trolling, ignore him08:25
ikoniaRJ_: you are using Ubuntu correct ?08:25
* cfhowlett concurred08:25
RJ_desktop 12.10 (live)08:25
ikoniaRJ_: ok, there is the gnome-network-manager applet in the top right of your screen08:26
ikoniaRJ_: that can manage your networks for you08:26
ikoniaRJ_: if you look at the network section in https://help.ubuntu.com you can see examples/details08:26
aguuuiceroot: You should search. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux "The media and common usage, however, refers to this family of operating systems simply as Linux, as do many large Linux distributions (e.g. SUSE Linux and Mandriva Linux). "08:26
ikoniaaguuu: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no08:26
icerootaguuu: gnu.org08:27
aguuui'm stating facts taken from wikipedia, and you call me a troll? way to mirror yourself on others08:27
ikoniaaguuu: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no08:27
aguuuikonia: true08:28
kepleraguuu: i called you a troll because you're trolling. pasting wikipedia does not change that08:28
ikoniaaguuu: no, do you have an ubuntu question "YES/NO"08:28
ikoniakepler: drop it please.08:28
samkanHi, Need some help on GPL license?08:29
ikoniasamkan: #fsf would be the place08:29
aguuukepler: that is false. discussing is not trolling.08:29
samkanwanted to know can i use GPL license for commercial purpose?08:29
icerootsamkan: #gnu should also be a good idea08:29
ikoniasamkan: #fsf is the place, or #gnu08:30
icerootsamkan: yes, but please ask in #gnu08:30
samkanhave read GPL faq, also asked on stackoverflow08:30
cfhowlettaguuu, wikipedia does not = facts.  If you have an actual ubuntu support question, now would be a great time to ask it ...08:30
ikoniasamkan: you seem to be struggling to read this channel, #fsf or #gnu is the channel to ask in08:30
RJ_i would like to create a script to auto setup my network -  Is it possible?08:30
tad-poleI love IRC.08:30
tad-poleRJ_ Yes.08:30
ikoniaRJ_: I told you what to do earlier08:30
ikoniaRJ_: is there a reason you are not following/using that advice08:31
tad-poleikonia: You know the reason. :)08:31
RJ_sorry total noob on ubuntu08:31
ikoniaRJ_: that doesn't change anything08:31
ikoniaRJ_: I gave you solid information, and you've waited 60 seconds and asked gain08:31
ikoniaRJ_: being new does not explain why I gave you the information and required documentation, you've done nothing with it and just asked again08:32
RJ_sorry i am no techie and your geek lingo is not easy to comprehend08:32
ikoniaRJ_: what geek lingo08:33
ikoniaRJ_: I have you a document that explains how to do it for new users08:33
ikoniaRJ_: I told you the network config applet is in the top right of your screen08:33
ikoniaRJ_: where is the "geek lingo" in that08:33
RJ_gnome-network-manager applet08:33
ikoniaRJ_: that is explained in the doucment I gave you and how to use it08:34
ikoniaRJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?08:34
RJ_i was looking up gnome-network-manager applet......sorry08:34
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ikoniaRJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?08:34
RJ_was but heard someone beeping me08:35
ikoniaRJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?08:35
ikoniaRJ_: yes, the network section08:36
ikoniaRJ_: did you read that ?08:36
RJ_i have been tryn to lol slow net and pc08:36
ikoniaRJ_: ok - so if you've not read that, why are you asking again ?08:36
ikoniaRJ_: why ask again without reading the page with the information in ?08:37
RJ_i am trying to be polite and respond when i hear a beep08:37
ikoniaRJ_: no-one spoke to you08:37
ikoniaRJ_: and asking the same question again is not responding, it's just asking the same questin again08:38
ikonialets be honest, you just didn't want to read the docs so just asked again in the hope that someone would give you the answer08:38
cfhowlettRJ_, set your status to "away"08:38
RJ_noob i am a total noob08:39
cfhowlettRJ_, no excuse for not reading the supplied resources ...08:39
GnomexHi guys08:40
cfhowlettGnomex, greetings08:40
Gnomexcan i ask Something..08:40
ubottuGnomex,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:40
RJ_what resources i am still not finding anything08:40
ikoniaRJ_: where are you looking08:40
GnomexOkey.. i got some problem with my Ubuntu 12.04.. when i'm login aroun 10 or minute my lappy stuck.. dunnno why..  can u tell me.. what kind i do with this trouble.. tq08:41
RJ_i started at https://help.ubuntu.com08:41
ASB_Hi. Stupid question from someone new to Linux/Ubuntu: If I "sudo apt-get install <package>" a package that is already installed, would that lead to any problems, or would aptitude detect that the package was already installed and just abort installation?08:41
ikoniaRJ_: right, then what did you select08:41
ikoniaASB_: it will say "already installed"08:42
fbeaufortHello. Does someone know how to tell if a packaged is embedded by default in ubuntu?08:42
cfhowlettASB_, It would quit out with "zero installed"08:42
ikoniaRJ_: then what08:42
RJ_desktop help08:42
ASB_ikonia, cfhowlett: Ok, thanks a lot!08:42
ikoniaRJ_: then what08:43
RJ_Networking, web, email & chat08:43
cfhowlettASB_, no problem08:44
fbeaufortHello. Does someone know how to tell if a packaged is embedded by default in ubuntu?08:44
ikoniaRJ_: then what08:44
ikoniafbeaufort: embedded ?08:44
RJ_then ?????08:44
ikoniaRJ_: then what did you chose08:44
ikoniaRJ_: there are 11 options08:44
fbeaufort+ikonia = installed08:44
fbeaufort(thanks for answering btw)08:44
ikoniaRJ_: right, so why have you not gone any further08:44
ikoniafbeaufort: open the package manager, search for the package and see if it is marked as installed08:45
GnomexHi Guys.. I need some help.. My Problem.. when i'm RUn my Ubuntu 12.04 around 20 minute or 30 my lappy stuck... dunno why..08:45
RJ_my critera dosent match08:45
cfhowlettfbeaufort, packages.ubuntu.com   is one place to look08:45
fbeaufortis there a way to do it from the command line?08:45
fbeaufortI have only ssh access08:45
PrincessLunaWhen I have secure boot on, Kubuntu 12.10 x64 hangs at a black screen after the grub prompt on the live usb itself. Any was to fix this?08:46
fbeaufortpackages.ubuntu.com is perfect!08:46
ikoniaRJ_: really, are you setting up a wired network, or a wireless network08:46
fbeaufortThanks +cfhowlett!08:46
Ben64PrincessLuna: uh.... don't use secure boot?08:46
Gnomexany one can tell me..? what kind i do..??08:47
ikoniaRJ_: right, so there is wireless network and wired network settings....how can you say your criteria does not mach08:47
PrincessLunaBen64: Windows 8 only works with UEFI on this computer and I need to dual boot08:47
cfhowlettfbeaufort, try apt-cache policy package name from the command line08:48
RJ_because i need to create a script for automation08:48
Ben64PrincessLuna: idk then08:48
ikoniaRJ_: right, but you need a script for what, wired network....click wired networking08:50
ikoniaRJ_: apply common sense08:50
RJ_I dont want to re configure my network every time i restart (live)08:52
ikoniaRJ_: I'm sorry, you seem to be not reading the information08:52
dr_willis_use a persistant save file?08:52
Kneferilishello, I made a user with my root account, I found out that the programs I installed as root are available to the user, the programs the user installs are available to the root user?08:52
cfhowlettKneferilis, why you root?08:53
RJ_sorry i dont know what that means08:53
ikoniaRJ_: 1.) dhcp servers will configure every time 2.) persistant settings will need a persistant live setup not a "script" 3.) the gnome-network-manager tool can save settings08:53
ikoniaKneferilis: there is no root account08:53
ikoniaRJ_: is your network dhcp ?08:53
dr_willis_Kneferilis: what programs.. installed how?08:53
RJ_i had to change it to address only ????08:54
ikoniaRJ_: is your network dhcp ?08:54
Kneferilisdr_willis: programs installed with yum, not by downloading/extracting them08:54
ikoniaKneferilis: you are not using ubuntu08:54
ikoniaKneferilis: ubuntu does not use yum08:54
dr_willis_yum? ubuntu dosent use yum. thats a redhat tool i thought08:55
ubottuKneferilis,: Uh, don't you mean !apt ?08:55
ikoniaKneferilis: and you know this, which is why you are asking in #centos also08:55
Kneferilisikonia: Well, yes, but I thought the principle would be the same08:55
ikoniaRJ_: does your network give you an IP automatically08:55
ikoniaKneferilis: no, it's not08:55
ikoniaKneferilis: this channel supports ubuntu only08:55
cfhowlettKneferilis, wrong channel.  ask in #centos.  bbye08:55
ikoniaRJ_: it's not a hard question08:55
Kneferilisok, sorry about that08:55
ikoniaRJ_: when you login does your network card get an IP address08:56
dr_willis_Kneferilis: you use the package manager to install aps on the system... not per-user08:56
Kneferilisthanks, for the help, I will go to #centos and #linux and continue my questions there08:56
RJ_maybe if i was a techie i would know i have never used linux ...ubuntu...????? sorry Total noob08:56
ikoniaRJ_: please stop playing the "noob" card08:57
ikoniaRJ_: you obviously know what an IP address is, as you want to use a script to set one08:57
ikoniaRJ_: so it's not a hard question, does your network card get an IP address automatically08:57
RJ_how do i tell?08:57
ikoniaRJ_: why do you want to configure your network - what's wrong with it08:58
ikoniaRJ_: lets step back to understand the problem08:58
RJ_1 min .....,.typing08:59
zetherooare the Ubuntu repos down?09:00
zetherooor is it just my mirror?09:00
ikoniazetheroo: just your mirror09:01
RJ_i have a 7pc and a micro itx connected to my tv ....i used the itx for xbmc.....my 7 dosent have a wifi but the itx does i have a flash drive that i can run ubuntu on but when i try to put ubuntu to sleep it crashes on the login password and the network setup takes about 10 min and i dont want to do it every time i wake er up09:05
RJ_...oops reboot09:06
DaemonicApathyChange the sleep settings.09:08
Osakasa^RJ_, what if you to system settings -> Brightness and Lock -> lock = OFF09:08
RJ_it is greyed out09:09
DaemonicApathyRJ:Osakasa: The important setting is below that: "Require my password..." etc. Uncheck it.09:09
savagecrochey.. can someone help me out with my grep command.. my regex isin't working09:10
Osakasa^RJ_, System Settings -> User Accounts -> Automatic Login = on09:10
RJ_that is grayed out too09:10
histoᴚſ‾ Hoʍ ɐɹǝ ʎon dnʇʇıuƃ ıʇ ʇo slǝǝd¿09:11
histoRJ_: Sorry how are you putting it to sleep?09:11
Osakasa^RJ_, as DaemonicApathy said, is your "Require my password when waking from suspend" unchecked (Brightness and lock)09:11
histo!persistent | RJ_09:12
RJ_suspend........those options are greyed out09:12
ubottuRJ_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:12
DaemonicApathyRJ_: Why does this sound to me like you're using a LiveUSB on a regular basis?09:13
histoRJ_: You want a persistent install so your settings are saved on reboot09:13
Anon_linuxOi pessoal09:14
Anon_linuxBrasil aki09:14
Anon_linuxAlguem é do brasil09:14
dr_willis_you can do a full install to a big enough usb flash drive09:14
ubottuAnon_linux: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.09:14
RJ_no more hard drives and all i use my itx for is xbmc.......i have my flash drive with yumi on it09:14
Anon_linuxPortugues brasil09:15
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.09:15
DaemonicApathyForgot Brazil was Portuguese...09:16
RJ_my flash drive has limited space on it and running live is all i need but i would like to let my itx sleep or power off but it takes like 10 min to manually configure my wifi settings09:18
histoRJ_: How big of a drive do you have?09:19
RJ_well its 16 gb but only almost 2 gb free09:19
Guest2000I need a status update?09:20
Ben64why does it take 10 minutes to enter a wifi password09:20
dr_willis_what else do you need the space for. ;-)09:20
DaemonicApathyGuest2000: You're still online.09:20
RJ_i have another 2gb but trying a different install method it said it wanted 8gb09:20
dr_willis_make a 512 mb save file..09:20
carli2where is that multitouch support i saw in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vp8_jetKEu809:21
lundyhow can I didable crash reports in 12.10 ?09:21
dr_willis_lundy:  askubuntu.com had a giude on disabeling apport  i recall09:22
RJ_password takes 5 seconds configuring the rest of the network to work properly takes many steps :)09:23
Ben64RJ_: maybe you should fix your network then09:26
RJ_whats wrong with it09:26
dr_willis_definatly sounds like a broken network to me...09:26
dr_willis_i get a new wifi device.. takes me perhaps 10 sec.. to enter password.. and dhcp does the rest09:26
Ben64if it takes more steps to make it "work properly" then something is wrong09:26
dr_willis_your whold setup sounds... broken09:27
RJ_well i had to use address only and change the dns server ...it works but why ????09:28
dr_willis_you have a mini itx pc. booting from a 16gb usb.. thats shomehow doing xbmc. OR running some ubuntu live setup - just to enable network shareing for some other pc?09:28
dr_willis_i dont see why you are doing half the things you have said you are doing.09:28
amgarchingHi! What's up with the umask  in ubuntu? A fresh install and I get group write permission for new files like here: -rw-rw-r-- 1 username username    2 Feb 13 10:29 a109:31
Ben64amgarching: its a umask, next question09:31
flintseramgarching: whats up with that? i see nothing09:31
RJ_its not my network ....i am just using it ....all my problems would vanish if ....i could have a script to go through steps i go through  to "so called" configure my networks. or have ubuntu not have a password on wake up09:33
amgarchingflintser: rw permissions for the group. I alwyas wondered why Ubunut creates a group with a name of the user.09:33
dr_willis_RJ_:  or if you used a small persistant save file on your live-usb setup to save your settings....09:33
DaemonicApathyamgarching: To make file sharing easier.09:33
RJ_sorry i dont know how to do that or what that even means ...sorry09:34
amgarchingbut why did the set umask that permissive?09:34
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.09:34
dr_willis_You can do a live install to usb with a small save file that will save changes to the usb. making it keep settings btween reboots.09:35
RJ_i cant install it though09:35
keplerRJ_: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/09:35
dr_willis_most all of the usb-live creater tools can do a persistant save file when you make the usb flash09:35
josvisHi folks, any Ubuntu alternative for capturing video&audio from TV-decoder? Can use Pinnacle Studio in Windows (Dual boot) with TV-decoder connected to Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 130 to record video & audio, edit same and burn content to DVD. Want to switch to Ubuntu.09:35
RJ_i used uui09:35
flintserRJ_: if you have windows computer at your reach, install LiLi and do ubuntu liveusb with persistent mode so you can save settings to it09:36
dr_willis_the pendrivelinux site has numerous tools for making live-usb setups09:36
varikonniemii have a multimonitor setup and when my computer starts my 2nd (small) monitor initializes immediately, my main screen takes some 2 seconds to change from vga mode to the login graphical mode. This causes the computer to initialize the second monitor as primary09:36
varikonniemithis causes eg. the wallpaper to be resized to its resolution, also on the primary monitor which is fugly09:36
varikonniemihow to fix?09:36
flintserRJ_:or unetbootin for linux machines09:37
varikonniemialso flash videos on the net maximize fullscreen to the second monitor which is annoying09:37
dr_willis_ive never seen a multi monitor system decide which monitor is primary based on which one powered up first...09:38
RJ_i used UUi and put 150 mb of presistents ????? but how do i save my settings?09:38
dr_willis_varikonniemi:  whats your video chipset?09:38
varikonniemii have in nvsettings ticked that the other is primary09:38
varikonniemibut it still initializes the small monitor first, it even puts the login usernames on there09:38
dr_willis_varikonniemi:  enable twinview in the nvidia settings tool?  Mine has the login screen on both i recall.09:39
varikonniemi"make this screen priomary for the x screen"09:39
varikonniemiand "sync to this display device" both are correctly configured09:39
varikonniemino the other shows ubuntu logo, and only names when cursor is moved to that desktop09:40
keplerswap the cables between the monitors09:41
varikonniemithe main screen is at port009:41
dr_willis_ive noticed some pcs always want to set the vga as the primary by default for the bios and so forth. so it stays that way untill the  nvidia drivers kick in.09:41
varikonniemibut i could always try..09:41
kepleryou'll find out if that's why, at least09:41
varikonniemihowever the problem is most probably the fact that my main screen is unavailable 2seconds after the display mode changes09:42
keplerhow often does that happen?09:42
varikonniemiat every mode change09:42
dr_willis_i would find that doubtfull to be honest...09:42
dr_willis_you can set the grub menu to be the same mode as your desktop if you wanted to.09:42
varikonniemii can set it be same resolution, but it changes modes anyway09:43
dr_willis_sounds like your refresh rates are differnt then09:43
varikonniemii actually have a custom grub screen with background and 1920*1200/6009:43
varikonniemibut after that screen it goes to the vga mode, and then to desktop mode09:44
cyb3rjunki3join/ #irc.abjects.net09:45
landswipewhat is the smallest ubuntu server footprint I can have?09:47
landswipei've tried but it seems to be 1GB09:47
landswipei was hoping to get it down nice and small09:47
landswipe300Mb or so09:47
cfhowlett!mini|landswipe, start with minimal install, add only the services you need ...09:48
ubottulandswipe, start with minimal install, add only the services you need ...: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD09:48
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RJ_ok i am creating the usb now with 100mb presistance ???? .......how do i save the settings ?09:51
dr_willis_go with 1gb persistance09:52
dr_willis_And it will get used automatically09:53
RJ_thats almost whats left on the flash drive ...do it any way?09:53
dr_willis_What else do you need the space for?09:54
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dr_willis_You said it was a 16gb usb..  So what's using the other 12+gb?09:55
landswipecfhowlett: yeah I got the 40mb or so file09:56
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landswipebut it downloads a bucket load from the net09:56
RJ_that 1 has a bunch of tools and a multi boot on it09:56
landswipei only add basic server and openssh and the install footprint was 1gb!09:56
dr_willis_landswipe: and how much was apt cache?09:58
Guest49294hello , i have an ATI graphic card and intel , when i boot with ubuntu , a black screen appear after loading .. but i can acess with recovery mode after selection reparing package option and continue booting .. any help please09:58
ubottuGuest49294,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:00
zetheroohow do I change the mirror for the Ubuntu repos?10:03
calwigwhats a good firewall? Firestarter?10:03
keplercalwig: www.pfsense.org10:03
calwigkepler, for ubuntu though10:04
calwigpfsense rocks yep10:04
somsip!ufw | calwig10:04
ubottucalwig: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.10:04
calwigthat works10:04
calwigthanks guzs10:05
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cfhowlettzetheroo, software center settings ...10:06
zetheroo cfhowlett: no gui here10:06
ubottuzetheroo,: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories10:07
calwigsomsip, ufw is great, the less gui as possible the better10:07
ubottuzetheroo,: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Quantal, and help keeping the servers' load low!10:07
zetheroo cfhowlett: nvm ... I'll just edit the sources.list file10:07
cfhowlettzetheroo, that'll do it ...10:08
zetheroook, I have changed the sources.list file to reflect the use of the US Ubuntu repo mirrors ... but still not getting anything good with apt-get update10:09
cfhowlettzetheroo, don't understand ... restate the complete issue ...10:09
zetherooW: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease10:09
dr_willis_     not seen anyone else today with mirror issues10:10
zetheroogetting that for all the sources10:10
cfhowlettdr_willis, china mirrors are out of reach for me today for some reason10:10
zetherooand I can ping from the machine10:10
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dr_willis_is "inrelease"  correct i  that line?10:12
BlackDexHello there10:12
BlackDexMy Unity dash keeps getting beheind the windows10:12
cfhowlettBlackDex, greetings10:12
zetheroodr_willis_: dunno ...  I did not put it there10:12
BlackDexand i know i can do ALT+F2 > unity10:12
BlackDexbut that is just a quick-fix10:12
dr_willis_check out what a default sources. list looks like10:13
histoBlackDex: windows key brings up dash10:13
landswipedr_willis: what is 'how much was apt-cache' ?10:13
BlackDexhisto: Yes.. beheind the windows, like browser or terminal etc...10:13
BlackDexit isn't on-top10:14
histoBlackDex: that's odd what version of ubuntu are you using?10:14
BlackDexz-index is like -110:14
TheGrey_o/ Can anyone save me with this sound problem? My audio is way tooo low. Everything in my ALSA mixer is set to the highest. My soundcard is HDA intel sb. My audio driver is Realtek ALC892. My asound.rc is: http://pastebin.com/Ed13xVPG ...What can I do to rid this annoying intermittent problem? Is is my sound card? Do I need to add something to modprobe? Thanks10:14
BlackDexwith all updates10:14
histoBlackDex: How are you getting it to do that?10:14
BlackDexif i know10:15
BlackDexi could fix it10:15
histoBlackDex: unity&disown   int a terminal10:16
histoBlackDex: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/90623110:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 906231 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Unity rendered behind windows" [Undecided,New]10:16
BlackDexBut just for some reason after a while everything unity is beheind application-windows10:16
histoBlackDex: did you try unity&disown in a terminal10:16
BlackDexso no fix yet :(10:16
BlackDexhisto: Yea i know about that10:16
dr_willis_landswipe:  apt keeps a  cache of everything  i downloads and installs10:16
BlackDexor just ALT+F2 :_10:16
landswipedr_willis: ah i see, how do I work out how much space it is using then?10:17
dr_willis_its in /var/cache i belive10:18
histoBlackDex: Looks like a fix was committed10:18
zetherooif I change something in the sources.list file do I need to do something else to get the change recognized by apt?10:18
dr_willis_zetheroo:  apt-get update10:19
landswipei just did a fresh install from minimal cd.10:19
BlackDexjust 12 hours ago it seems :)10:19
landswipedidn't select anything (no basic server, or openssh)10:19
landswipeis that right?10:19
landswipei'm not complaining, that's just what it is i guess10:19
landswipei've been working with openwrt and it is tiny10:19
jpdslandswipe: Sounds able right.10:19
histolandswipe: sudo apt-get clean10:20
landswipei can get an image down to like 6mb10:20
landswipebusybox et al10:20
jpdslandswipe: Only way you're doing to get it smaller is to disable installing recommended packages by default.10:20
landswipei see10:20
landswipei want to run it on an odroid-y210:20
histolandswipe: that's a specific kernel with only modules needed by the routers hardware10:20
dr_willis_or use a different distro10:20
landswipedon't have the hardware yet, just looking at how small i can get it10:20
histolandswipe: You have modules for like every device right now with ubuntu.10:20
landswipei see10:21
landswipeso very good hardware support out of the box10:21
RJ_ok guys i have everything configured and working properly ....might i ask kindly .....since i installed a gb of presistance when i go back to "Try ubuntu" it will have all my settings saved :)10:21
histolandswipe: yes as apposed to only working on routers10:21
landswipei see. that's fine :)10:21
landswipethanks for the help and clarification!10:21
nearstRJ_, u can install on vm10:21
dr_willis_RJ_: change to a custome wallpaper and see....  ut should keep changes10:22
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RJ_no space10:22
histolandswipe: what's the out put of du /var/cache/apt/10:22
histolandswipe: what's the out put of du -h /var/cache/apt/10:22
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RJ_well ill give er a reboot and keep my fingers crossed10:22
zetheroodr_willis_: I created a whole new sources.list file and did apt-get update but its still coming back at me with :  W: Failed to fetch http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease10:23
zetheroodr_willis_: like its just ignoring the new sources.list file10:23
dr_willis_you told it to use the ch servers?10:23
zetheroodr_willis_: yes10:24
dr_willis_it failed for all servers?10:24
dr_willis_try removeing the  ch.  part as a test10:25
histolandswipe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space10:25
landswipehisto: 75Mb10:27
RJ_humm my screen looks like a jumbled mess??????10:27
jpdszetheroo: Failing on that is fine, it should ignore it.10:27
histolandswipe: 75mb what?10:29
silvanYou can get kicked for a too long ping? :/10:31
dr_willis_a png timeout = a dead client10:32
histolandswipe: For instance I found 143M of modules for my current running kernel. If you have older kernels installed they are going to take a bunch of space up10:32
mikkel_i try to change my primary and secondary DNS, when i do this they are simply set as tertiary DNS. What can i do?10:32
RJ_It worked :) the screen got jumbled up but the try ubuntu came up and after it loaded up (about 3 min) it worked :) thank all of you guys very much ;)10:33
histomikkel_: where are you changing it?10:34
marryDoes anyone happen to know what the long during beep may be whilst shutting the system down? I use Ubuntu 12.04 (Mint 13), Motherboard NF7-S. And following question; does anyone know how to get rid of this? Thanks in advance!10:34
mikkel_i am using the networkmanager gui (i think it's called that)10:34
Ben64!mint | marry10:34
ubottumarry: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:34
histoRJ_: did your wallpaper get saved though?10:34
histomikkel_: Are you adding dns servers in there?10:35
RJ_sorry i wasnt sure how to do it10:35
RJ_but my eth and wifi got saved :)10:35
mikkel_yes, i am pretty sure i did correctly as i used a guide10:35
marryUbottu: I duel boot, the problem exits in both10:36
ubottumarry: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:36
histomikkel_: which guide?10:36
histoRJ_: Now try suspending10:36
mikkel_histo: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using10:36
* cfhowlett ... used to duel boot then became a pacifist ...10:36
RJ_wont that still aks for a password and freeze me?10:37
histomikkel_: cat /etc/resolv.conf10:38
histomikkel_: check what your nameservers are there.10:38
mikkel_there is only
histomikkel_: okay double check your settings in network manager make sure they saved.10:40
mikkel_yes they are still there :s10:41
mikkel_it is very weird10:41
murlidharhello all. i am currently using 12.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.10 . i have already downloaded the desktop iso and mounted it. however i am not able to upgrade it. there is no option asking me to upgrade10:41
histowhat is weird?10:41
histomikkel_: what is weird?10:41
mikkel_that they still are there10:41
histomikkel_: disconnect and reconnect or restart networking with sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:41
BlackDexhisto: I just installed the staging unity packages, hopefully this fixed it :)10:41
MonkeyDust !upgrade | murlidhar10:42
ubottumurlidhar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade10:42
cfhowlettmurlidhar, normal.  software sources, enable the iso, sudo apt-get update and go10:42
murlidharcfhowlett: hmmm10:42
cfhowlettmurlidhar, or boot the iso and do a clean install10:42
histo!upgrade | murlidhar10:44
ubottumurlidhar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade10:44
murlidharhisto: i want to upgrade it using the iso10:44
murlidharcfhowlett: i don't want a clean install10:45
Ben64murlidhar: i don't think you can upgrade like that10:45
zetheroodr_willis_: changed to US mirrors and it's still the same :  W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease10:45
murlidharcfhowlett: been ages since i did a clean install10:45
murlidharBen64: i have done that before10:45
zetheroo dr_willis_: no issue with the CH mirrors on other machines10:46
mikkel_histo : thanks, it worked :D10:46
murlidharBen64: it usually detects a new upgrade and asks me to upgrade which however in this release it isn't asking.10:46
MayazcherquoiHey guys. Just wondering, how does the most recent Ubuntu release compares with Windows 7 & 8 battery/power management?10:46
zetheroo dr_willis_: but I don't know where it's getting the "inrelease" part either10:46
Ben64murlidhar: why not just use the internet10:47
murlidharBen64: my internet isn't exactly very stable so i download the iso10:47
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cfhowlettreally ?10:48
zetherootingtong ... Good Bye!!10:48
murlidharwell tingtong clearly loves ubuntu so he wants do that :)10:48
Ben64murlidhar: might be able to do it if you boot to the cd10:48
Malsasa_Hello, whoever has upgrader his KDE to 4.10, how much MB should be downloaded? I have slow connection only. Thanks :D10:48
murlidharBen64: booting the cd will only clean install10:48
Ben64murlidhar: no...10:48
lukecarrierwhy did you kick him?10:49
lukecarrierhe can vent if he wants to, surely?10:49
murlidharBen64: you sure ?10:49
Ben64murlidhar: check the options on it10:49
cfhowlettlukecarrier, no profanity here.  read the rules10:49
k1l_lukecarrier: dont mind the trolls. carry on with ubuntu support please.10:49
murlidhari will now . maybe they have the options10:49
murlidharbut earlier it wasn't like that before.10:49
lukecarriercfhowlett, fair point10:50
Malsasa_Hello, anybody has upgrader KDE?10:50
Malsasa_Hello, anybody has upgraded KDE?10:50
dr_willis_yes Malsasa_10:50
Malsasa_dr_willis_: yes, how much space MB for download the update from PPA? I have only slow connection...10:51
dr_willis_no idea10:51
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dr_willis_as much as it took.......10:52
zetheroostill not able to perform apt-get update successfully ...10:52
Malsasa_dr_willis_: i need update sizeinfo so i can estimate how long the download...10:52
cfhowlettzetheroo, what error messages?10:52
zetheroocfhowlett: the same as I posted before10:52
dr_willis_i have no idea Malsasa_ . run the commands see what size it says10:53
zetheroowith US or CH mirrors10:53
zetherooit's the same10:53
MonkeyDustMalsasa_  you have limited bandwith/download speed?10:53
Malsasa_MonkeyDust: yes yes, i live at Indonesia, small banwidth country...10:53
Malsasa_dr_willis_: hmmm... thank you...10:54
zetheroocfhowlett:I am ssh'ed into the server so we know its on the network .. and I can ping so we know it's online ....10:54
MonkeyDustMalsasa_  just under 1GB10:54
MonkeyDustMalsasa_  iso size is just under 1GB10:55
Malsasa_MonkeyDust: hah, 1 GB? Too big for me...10:55
Malsasa_MonkeyDust: ISO? No, i just wanna upgrade KDE 4.8 to 4.10...10:55
dr_willis_the apt commands estimatte the sizes i belive10:56
zetheroocfhowlett: I just noticed I cannot ping google.com10:56
zetherooping: unknown host google.com10:56
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MonkeyDustzetheroo  if you can ping an ip address, but no url, it's a dns issue10:56
Guest56757Can anyone help me get sound workin in Lubuntu, please?  Profiler says my sound is  ICH - SiS SI701210:57
MonkeyDustzetheroo  can you ping ?10:57
MonkeyDustzetheroo  there you have it, that's google, so check your dns10:58
zetherooDNS on the Ubuntu system?10:58
MonkeyDustzetheroo  yes10:59
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zetheroook, I did not know there were DNS settings required ... I setup this machine the same as I setup all our Debian machines ...11:00
histo!lubuntu | Buzzby11:00
ubottuBuzzby: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.11:00
MonkeyDustzetheroo  correct, normally it's not required, something must have gone wrong11:01
BuzzbyI know what Lubuntu is.  I installed it.  I just don't have sound and would like help if possible to get sound to work.  Please.11:01
cfhowlettMonkeyDust, what is that address?11:01
cfhowlettand what command would identify the address?11:01
zetherooMonkeyDust: it was also working fine yesterday, then I configured the network bridge interface and setup the VM's running on KVM ... shutdown and came in this morning to find this happening11:01
MonkeyDustcfhowlett  the ip address is google11:02
zetherooMonkeyDust: is it possible that setting up the network bridge has soemthing to do with it?11:02
MonkeyDustzetheroo  yes, guess so11:02
BuzzbyI apologize.  I am goin to the other channel.11:02
BuzzbyThank you11:02
cfhowlettMonkeyDust thanks.  what command returns the owner of an ip?11:03
cfhowlettBuzzby, best of luck11:03
BuzzbyThank you.11:03
MonkeyDustcfhowlett  whois [ip]11:04
BuzzbyAfter XP I think Microsoft has gone mentally unstable and so I wanna see if I can get used to Linux.11:04
zetherooMonkeyDust: the resolv.conf file is empty ... is that how it should be? It says "Do not edit this file by hand" ... :P11:04
cfhowlettMonkeyDust, arrr!  of course!  who is not enough.  Thanks, man.  I used to know that stuff ...11:04
histoBuzzby: Why are you using lubuntu?11:07
histoBuzzby: over ubuntu that is?11:07
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.11:07
MonkeyDustzetheroo  is this useful http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/11:08
marryDoes anyone happen to know what the long beep could mean during shutting down the system?11:08
histomarry: pc spkr beep?11:09
marryhisto: yes, comes out of my speakers11:09
zetherooMonkeyDust: I added 'dns-nameservers' to /etc/network/interfaces where the bridge is configured and now its working :D11:09
MonkeyDustzetheroo  great!11:10
histomarry: grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf   does that have any output?11:11
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marryhisto: no, should I blacklist it? Is this normal behaviour or is the pc trying to tell me something? Does your speakers beep whilst shutting down? Seems rather strange having to blacklist this? This happens only sometimes, not always.11:13
histomarry: yes if it's not blacklisted it will beep11:13
histomarry: what version of ubuntu are you runningn?11:14
marryRun 12.04, but why does it only happen only on some shutdowns and not on others. It's like it happens if computer has been on for a long time then it does it, but not otherwise. Weird?11:14
histomarry: lsmod | grep pcspkr   is the module loaded?11:15
marryone sec Hisnameisrobertp11:15
marryhisto: :)\11:15
histomarry: huh?11:15
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MonkeyDustwrong tab11:16
marryhisto: one second, loading module11:16
histomarry: No you are trying to see if the module is loaded11:18
histomarry: lsmod | grep pcspkr will tell you if it's loaded11:19
histoɥǝuɹʎ3 ɥǝʎ11:19
marryhisto: module not loaded :/11:19
henry3i installed ubuntu but accidently partitioned my harddrive is there a easy way to remove windows and all my previous stuff11:19
histomarry: Okay that's not it then if the module isn't loaded. I have no idea what's beeping.11:20
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histohenry3: do you have the install disk or usb still?11:20
henry3yes i do11:21
zetheroois there a command which will install all perl modules? ... just wondering ...11:21
histohenry3: boot to that and use gparted to remove partition and expand your others etc... just make sure you have a backup incase of a failure.11:22
henry3will that remove anything i have already saved to ubuntu section of hardrive11:22
histozetheroo: are they all named similar where you could do apt-get install some-perl-package-*11:23
histohenry3: Only if there is a failure of some kind. Like a power failure or crash/lockup or if you do something silly in there and remove the wrong partition.11:23
henry3ok thanks for the help!11:23
histohenry3: that's why you backup first11:24
zetheroohisto: unfortunately it would not seem so to me ... the names are very different11:24
RJ_guys ....was just about to watch a show and head to bed but i have no audio .......un muted all un auto muted the ???aslmixer .....checked audio settings... i have 3 devices but none of them have audio ...any help would be nice :)11:25
histozetheroo: then I can't think of a way unless there is a meta package11:28
histo!sound | RJ_11:28
ubottuRJ_: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.11:28
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RJ_i am using vlc and i troubleshot with no luck everything seems to be there...hummmm....still reading ;)11:31
TheGreyo/ I keep getting Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy error when trying to do a speaker test..my alsamixer is turned up to full.. Why is my device busy?11:31
zetherooarg, I cannot believe that 12.04 is still using Qemu 1.0 ....11:32
zetheroothis means Ubuntu will not be replacing Debian on our KVM servers anytime soon :P11:33
histozetheroo: What?11:35
zetheroohisto :  ?11:36
histozetheroo: your qemu comment?11:36
histozetheroo: What do you mean ubuntu is still using qemu11:36
zetheroohisto: Qemu 1.011:36
zetheroohisto: it's a very old version11:37
histozetheroo: and you think debian has a newer version?11:37
zetheroohisto, I know it has ... we are using Qemu 1.1.2  ...11:38
scribbleHi sorry to interrupt, I have this message from trying to use a kernel on a VirtualBox  - -> Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.11:38
histo!backports | zetheroo11:38
ubottuzetheroo: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging11:38
scribbleis that suppose to go in  -- --> /etc/profile11:38
MonkeyDust!info qemu11:39
ubottuqemu (source: qemu-kvm): dummy transitional package from qemu to qemu-kvm. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.12.10.2 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB11:39
zetheroowhat about this: https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/virtualisation/+build/377882911:39
zetheroohisto, can I just do a upgrade-distro on this machine?11:40
zetherooto get it to quantal11:41
cfhowlettzetheroo, dist-release ...11:41
histozetheroo: I wouldn't run quantal ona  server though11:41
histoI would just backport qemu11:41
histozetheroo: nvm it's not in backports11:42
zetheroodoh - ok11:42
RJ_tried to see install sound modules with ....       find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd ...........no such file or directory ...................tried   sudo aplay -1 ...........aplay invalid option11:43
histozetheroo: you could always build the current version yourself which is 1.4.0  or 1.2.0 from their site.11:43
histoRJ_: -l  not -111:43
histoRJ_: lowercase L11:43
RJ_k thanks will try11:44
RJ_it shows 3 devices which i tried all 3...still no sound11:45
zetheroopity, was hoping to move to Ubuntu :(11:45
silvan_Works :)11:45
dydzEz2whats a good tool to just monitor overall network traffic through the terminal on ubuntu11:46
dydzEz2like tells me what ports i just opened to go to a certain site or somethin11:46
MayazcherquoiHey guys. Just wondering, how does the most recent Ubuntu release compares with Windows 7 & 8 battery/power management?11:47
MonkeyDustdydzEz2  lsof or so11:47
zetheroohisto: would you not recommend this?  https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/virtualisation/+build/377882911:47
MonkeyDustdydzEz2  try lsof -i11:48
dydzEz2you gotta keep typing lsof -i11:49
dydzEz2anything good thats like real time11:49
RJ_everything that seemed relevent worked except -----   find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd   ----- and when i tried to do the apt-get it says ...unable to get package11:53
MoL0ToVhttp://pastebin.ca/2313123 how i can find in what package are include all these libs? so i can install missed (required) packages?11:53
MonkeyDustdydzEz2  in a terminal, type apt-cache show snort -- is it useful?11:54
vnc786i am cloning sda to sdb with dd but can some tell me about bs=??? shuld i keep or not ??11:55
zetheroowhat is a nice clean command for rebooting ?11:55
MonkeyDustzetheroo  sudo shutdown -r now11:55
|nv|s|b|esudo reboot11:56
DJoneszetheroo: sudo reboot ?11:56
safridzalah, ping time.. slow inet..11:56
dydzEz2yeah snorts actually quite good11:56
zetheroohehe .. ok ... reboot and shutdown -r now ... are they the same?11:56
safridzalzetheroo: man reboot11:58
safridzalthere's a lot to read there :D11:58
safridzaland man shutdown11:58
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theperfectpunki have errors while compiling drivers11:59
theperfectpunkcan anyone help?11:59
vnc786any help?? on dd11:59
zetheroothing is that when I do 'sudo shutdown -r now' on this system it shutsdown but then does not boot up again .. just remains powered on with flans blowing12:00
dr_willisinstalled the build-essential package? Installed the proper headers? ;) 2 common  issues theperfectpunk12:00
dr_willisvnc786:  use a bs= size yes....12:00
MonkeyDustzetheroo  the -r means reboot12:00
Guest70747someone known how crack use bt4??12:00
dr_willisunless you want really really really slow speeds12:00
MonkeyDustGuest70747  type /join #backtrack-linux12:00
theperfectpunki'll check12:00
dr_willisGuest70747: better to spend your time learning some real skills.12:00
vnc786dr_willis: bs=1M what this will do instead of bs=4M12:01
cfhowlettGuest70400, also BT is not supported here ...12:01
zetherooMonkeyDust: yes, but the system does not reboot ... it shutsdown and then remains powered on but does not boot back up ... I have to power it off manually and back on again12:01
MonkeyDustzetheroo  try sudo init 612:02
zetherooMonkeyDust: tried that before already ... which is why I was asking for another way to do it12:02
theperfectpunki had installed the headers using sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic12:03
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages12:03
tata_hey i have a problem my ubuntu-server tell me add-apt-repository: command not found but I have the package python-software-properties Installs?12:03
zetheroohow does one check the version of qemu in Ubuntu?12:04
MonkeyDustzetheroo  apt-cache policy qemu12:04
cfhowlettMonkeyDust, flying fingers on the keyboard!12:04
theperfectpunkit says already installed12:04
theperfectpunksudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:04
zetherooMonkeyDust: thanks12:04
tata_  Installiert: (keine)12:05
tata_  Kandidat:    1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.12.10.212:05
tata_  Versionstabelle:12:05
tata_     1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.12.10.2 012:05
FloodBot1tata_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:05
tata_        500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/universe i386 Packages12:05
theperfectpunkdr_willis installed12:05
MonkeyDustGuest36247  keep it in the channel please12:06
theperfectpunkubottu already installed12:06
theperfectpunkany more suggestions?12:06
dr_willisNot sure what you are compiling exactly. but the headers, and the build-essential package should cover most all you need. Unless you need the actual kernel source tree12:08
Gusteruhi ! anyone can help me to install sun java please ?12:15
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.12:15
Gusteruhi ! anyone can help me to install sun java please ??12:19
dr_willis!java | Gusteru12:19
ubottuGusteru: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.12:19
MonkeyDustGuest36247  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_612:19
Gusterudr_willis:  I want to install Sun Java and not JDK12:20
kingbeastgood morning everyone12:20
MonkeyDustkingbeast  other timezone12:20
Guest36247why are you linking me this MonkeyDust Oo12:20
Ben64Gusteru: you might want to read more12:20
dr_willisYou mean Oracle java?12:20
kingbeastgood day MonkeyDust12:20
dr_willisand i belive the guides cover all of them12:20
MonkeyDustGuest36247  wrong tab, it was for Gusteru12:20
Guest36247oh ok12:20
Gusterudr_willis: Sunt Java from www.java.com12:21
dr_willisGusteru:  oracle bought sun out some time back.12:21
Ben64Gusteru: you should really check the link you've been given twice12:21
cfhowlettkingbeast, greetings12:22
dr_willisthe Iced tea java is in the repos. then theres the official javas from Oracle  you can use.. depending on your needs12:22
Gusterudr_willis: thank you !12:22
ivotklGood morning everyone.12:22
kingbeastivotkl, morning12:23
kingbeastanyone need some help?12:24
clipperbitch i trade 10 whips for a spaceship12:25
dr_willisseems some people are beyond help these days kingbeast  ;)12:26
cfhowlettclipper, wrong channel ...12:26
kingbeastdr_willis, would be a good thing!!!12:26
clippernope i'm in the right spot, thats just how i say Hi now... u mad O_o12:27
kingbeastclipper, well then please watch the language12:27
MonkeyDustclipper invent something appropriate to say hi12:27
clipperim sorry :( i apologize for my language12:28
cfhowlett!language|clipper, y12:28
ubottuclipper, y: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.12:28
clipperi know i knowwwwww i have a poty mouth12:28
clipperi get ahead of myself12:29
kingbeastnow do you have a quesstion clipper?12:29
clipperthen its like OH SNAPS what just happened here meow12:29
clippermaybe i do, maybe i dont12:29
* STMelon hmms, was school canceled today?12:29
clippermaybe you have a question for me is better ?12:29
MonkeyDustclipper  i guess this is not the channel you want or need12:29
kingbeastno not really, and maybe you will get help maybe you won't12:29
safridzalim listening....12:30
clipperis everyone like super cereal here or something, i actually did have a random question but figured i would have some fun on my entrance and you guys are acting like im a black guy on voting day12:30
clipperoh snaps12:30
clipperthere it goes again12:30
DJonesclipper: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general chat12:30
MonkeyDustclipper  stop12:30
clipperOk question then12:30
superdoIf I want to resize my current ubuntu partition, I have to unmount, but will my system work so?12:31
clipperCalm down monkey!12:31
cfhowlettclipper, insincere apology aside, what is your ubuntu question?12:31
clipperyou can demand anything you want, so can I, so you stop12:31
clipperok I have an android12:31
clipperand recently installed ubuntu apps12:31
clipperare you familiar?12:31
nearstandroid use apk . not deb12:32
clipperyes its an emulator i know this12:32
clipperim simply asking if anyone here has used these apps on their droids12:32
clipperas i had questins pertaining to them12:32
clipperemu, what a silly creature12:32
clippergives me a chuckle12:32
cfhowlettsuperdo, you want to a live dvd/usb and run gparted from there to resize your hdd12:33
dr_willisyou dont resize a partion/filesystem thats in use superdo12:33
superdothanks guys12:33
dr_willisIf you are using ubuntu in a vm/chroot on android.. you install the debs/package manager as you would a normal install  from what ive seen...12:34
cfhowlettsuperdo, have fun, be safe12:35
kingbeastwell just highlight me if needed, I'm going to play some pokerth... :-P12:37
nearst*play pokerth too. lol12:38
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makarawhen I mount an iso with archive mounter, what is its path?12:39
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makaranearst, there's /mnt, but it's empty12:41
screen2342makara: type "mount" or "cat /proc/mounts" in a terminal12:42
dr_willisor access its icon with the file manager - and hit ctrl-l to see its path12:43
screen2342makara: the output of "cat /proc/mounts" should include a line with /dev/loop*12:43
nearstdefault mount auto mount place should be on /media12:45
cfhowlettcangrejo, greetings12:45
makaradr_willis, ctrl+l gives the address of the iso image12:46
makaranearst, nothing in /media12:46
raven_how to split and recombine a 2 gb file into 25 mb pieces?12:46
makarascreen2342, I see many things with mount and cat ...12:46
dr_willisthere should be an entry for the mounted iso at the left side12:46
dr_willisi just mount the things by hand. ;)12:47
dr_willismount | grep loop    may show the proper entry12:47
makaradr_willis, left side of nautilus. but I need to access from terminal12:47
dr_willismakara:  so access it from nautilus.. and see what ctrl-l says its path is..12:47
makaradr_willis, no grep loop12:48
dr_willisor try the mount | grep loop12:48
nearsttry manual mount12:48
dr_willisunless the fs archiver gool was using some fuse features.12:48
makaradr_willis, address is of the iso image12:48
jribraven_: look into the "split" command (man split).  Use "cat" to recompose the pieces12:48
dr_willisand what address is that?12:48
nearstcheck on ls -al .gvfs ?12:49
raven_jrib, ok tnx12:49
makaradr_willis, archive://file%253A%252F%252F%252Fhome%252Fmar%252FZ6%252FDungeon%252520Keeper%252520Gold%252FDungeonKeeperGold.iso/12:49
dr_willisso its using a special url then. the archive://12:49
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:50
dr_willisit should have an entry in .gvfs i belive12:50
makarascreen2342, I've unmounted the iso and mount gives identical output12:51
raven_what is the command for 7z to split the archive into pieces?12:52
makaradr_willis, .gvfs, yes12:53
makarathat's it then12:54
screen2342makara: okay, if it's gvfs i have no idea. i usually mount images by "sudo mount -o loop ..."12:55
dr_willisif he unmouinted it.. its not  going to be in .gvfs any more. ;)12:56
nearstscreen2342, Archive Mounter mount usually on .gvfs,12:56
makaradr_willis, ipuditback12:56
dr_willisi would have allready used the mount command and been done with it by now. ;)12:57
screen2342nearst: i don't even have gnome installed, just a plain window manager. and i really don't need gui tools to do loop mounts. ymmv.12:58
raven_what is the command for 7z to split the archive into pieces?12:58
nearstraven, 7z a -v50M OutputFilename ~/FileFolder13:01
raven_jrib, is sure cat file* always combines the split files in the right order?13:08
jribraven_: you must list them in the right order13:08
raven_jrib, its aa, ab, ac ..... so its not sure it will be in the right order automatically right?13:09
g16raven_: * gives alphabetical ordering http://serverfault.com/questions/122737/in-bash-are-wildcard-expansions-guaranteed-to-be-in-order13:10
jribraven_: that should get expanded correctly13:10
raven_jrib, g16 ok sounds good13:11
vnc786i ran  dd if=/dev/sdb of=/sda bs=1M conv=noerror but now when i am trying to boot it says Disk Read Error13:11
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g16vnc786: should be of=/dev/sda13:12
dr_williserr you ment /dev/sda right?13:12
riplyhi all, is there someone here who would be able to help me regarding squid/public proxy? I want to setup a squid proxy accessible via the WAN/www. There are plenty tutorials available, however they all seem to be 'public'. I want to have authentication ie so that when popping in the proxy details into the browser, they are prompted for auth or rejected.13:12
dr_williswere the 2 hard drives the same size?13:12
nearstriply, http://cpanelforums.net/how-to-install-squid-with-password-authentication-in-ubuntucentosfedoraredhat/13:13
vnc786dr_willis: sdb(source)=250gb sda(dest)=500gb13:13
dr_willissee if you can mount the cloned disk.  Ive cloned 8gb usb flash drive installs of ubuntu onto 1+TB internal HDS and booted them befor13:14
dr_willisused gparted afterwards to resize/use the unallocated space. ;)13:14
riplynearst, thank you so much man! You're a better googler than I!13:14
vnc786okay now i have booted systemrescuecd and fdisk -l output says "partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary" and so on13:15
salaetHi !13:16
salaetanybody knows how can use scp command without sudo13:16
jribsalaet: why do you need sudo?13:17
vnc786dr_willis: how can i make it bootable ..?13:17
nearstsudo -i scp13:17
salaetbecause I write a script with python that call scp13:18
salaetAnd the permision i forbid13:18
salaetis forbid13:18
technojabberTech me python please13:18
jribsalaet: well what are you trying to copy?13:18
jribtechnojabber: #python can help you with that13:18
technojabberOK thank13:19
zetherooI am doing apt-get upgrade but am getting a message like "The following packages have been kept back:" with a list of packages there13:19
zetheroowhy are they being "held back"?13:20
salaeti'm running django+uwsgi and the uwsgi log  accessible: Permission denied.13:20
salaetHost key verification failed.13:20
jribzetheroo: pastebin.  But it's probably kernel packages and so you need to do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"13:20
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salaetI change the owner of .pem file and group and I'm becoming crazy with this13:20
jribsalaet: you keep changing the problem13:20
zetheroojrib:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643747/13:21
vnc786what shuld i do now ?13:21
zetheroojrib: I want to update libvirt13:21
vnc786should i make image first and than write that image ???13:21
jribzetheroo: so what happens when you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?13:22
salaetjrib: it's possible that a service has permissions to run scp?13:22
jribsalaet: sure, scp is not special13:22
zetheroojrib: seems to be working now - thanks13:23
jribsalaet: you should give more details.  Say exactly what you are calling, how, and as what user.  And pastebin details13:23
BluesKajHey all13:25
salaetI'have a server that perform some mathematical calculations with images... when this mathematical calculations finish , save and I need to upload to amazon ec2.If I use sudo scp -i bla bla I don't have any problem , but when the django+uwsgi runs this  commands I have the problem.13:26
jribsalaet: well what user is scp being run as?13:26
salaetI think its beacause uwsgi dosnt have permisions to use .pem file13:26
salaetnow like this "scp -i bla bla" and not run if i use "sudo scp -i bla bla" runs good only in command line but in the script it's not posible but i need to introduce the password of sudo13:28
salaetsorry for my worst english13:28
ZooooooooHi guys! I'm trying to understand how to better setup a cross-compiler toolchain for armhf. When I installed the cross-compiler from the package /usr/arm-.../lib/ folder was created. I may find all the target libraries there which is nice. But I need to have some additional libs (mesa) to compile my app. How can I install armhf development package (mesa-dev) to make sure that it will be placed into this 'safe' folder (usr/arm-..) 13:29
screen2342salaet: the message "Host key verification failed." does not refer to permissions of a file to be copied by scp. looks more like scp/ssh prompted for verifying the host key of the ssh server side, which must be answered with "yes".13:29
rvgateHow do i know if my session is using unity or unity-2d13:30
tafsenYo guys. Is it possible to change the color of the border you get when you are running split-screens?13:30
tafsen*in GNU-Screen13:31
screen2342salaet: so it's important to know if your python script runs scp as the same user as you run scp interactive13:32
usr13rvgate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171853/how-to-change-from-unity-2d-to-3d13:32
screen2342salaet: scp/ssh looks for the cached host key in $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts. so it makes a difference which user runs scp/ssh.13:33
salaetI'm going to investigate the solution with paramiko module.13:34
screen2342salaet: sorry, i don't know any python13:35
salaetdon't worry ! thanks for your time13:35
DEac-i've a problem while booting with lvm. it doesn't found my root-lv. /boot is a partition on the first hd and my pv is the hole second disc. if i type vgchange -ae and close shell, it boots clean. but i won't enter vgchange -ae on every boot13:42
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mehdiguys im having problem with sound when i volume up the sound just drops off and come up13:44
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usr13mehdi: alsamixer13:45
mehdiusr13, wat? is that?13:45
ewookHeyya. I've forgotten what name a binary got that you run to get the linked dependencies of another binary.13:46
ewookAnyone got a clue?13:47
zetherooanyone know how to see the Qemu emulation version?13:48
ikoniazetheroo: there is only one version installed13:48
ikoniazetheroo: it will default to the version you are using13:48
zetherooikonia: but there is a command to check the version ... no?13:48
ikoniazetheroo: look at the package version13:49
mehdiusr13, i installed but it doest work?13:50
mehdiusr13, i installed but it doest work13:50
zetherooikona: ok ... I thought there was a command that gave an output like "QEMU emulator version 1.2.1 (qemu-kvm-1.2.0) "13:50
usr13mehdi: alsamixer doesn't work?13:51
rocketI'm still trying to solve that problem i have.13:51
usr13mehdi: You had to install alsamixer? (Should have already been there.)13:51
technojabberAny one wanna buy my Nokia n80013:51
rocketWhenever i update, my computer display acts weird, and the OS hangs.13:52
mehdiusr13, it just install alsamixergui13:52
usr13mehdi: Why?13:52
mehdiusr13, i thought it was the same as u said13:52
vsms01hi I have a production problem with reprepro database. can someone help?13:55
mehdican sb tell me about this config http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=58b61231bd0bfa4a90bbc2f442d917ab6abc040f  while i volume up music comes and goes13:58
anne_hey, I am fixing my mums computer. The printer seems to have gone a bit bonkers - I think I need to perge the print queue using the comand line, can anyone help?14:00
anne_she is on kubuntu14:01
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technojabberWhat is a shell14:02
nearst!shell | technojabber14:03
ubottutechnojabber: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal14:03
haitham__this picture problem http://imagebin.org/24654414:03
theseusdoes anyone have the problem where the top of their screen get pixelated or turns black when typing or left alone for a while?14:03
ikoniahaitham__: why is that a problem ?14:03
haitham__time any program staillion14:04
DJoneshaitham__: If you're trying to click the ok button, you need to use the tab key and then the enter key to continue14:04
anne_not for me? ikonia the problem is that the queue is full of this same job over and over again, you cant delete them, it just crashes the printer applet14:05
anne_not sure what to do14:05
nearstsudo system-config-printer-applet ?14:06
anne_nearst and what will that do?14:07
pdiddles03Hey everone, I need some help.  I installed ubuntu on my macbook pro, so now my macbook is a triple boot machine  but now, after rebuild the mbr, windows just sits at the starting windows screen14:08
nearstsudo system-config-printer --show-jobs14:08
marktaffHI guys14:09
anne_nearst, comand not found :/14:09
traveller`from where this chat room ?14:09
DJonestraveller`: This is the Ubuntu support channel14:09
traveller`is it room for chatting or for what14:10
traveller`what that mean what ubunto mean ?14:10
DJones!ubuntu | traveller`14:10
ubottutraveller`: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com14:10
anne_nearst, still comand not found :S14:10
OliveiraBorgestraveller` where are you from ?14:10
marktaffI dist-upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, but am having errors with openssh-server not configuring properly after being installed.  Any ideas that might help?  Thanks.  See: http://paste.kde.org/670256/14:10
nearstsudo system-config-printer --debug14:10
traveller`where can  i make chatting in this server in which room?14:11
anne_nearst, system-config-printer: command not found14:11
nearstusually default ubuntu installation should have that14:12
DJones!alis | traveller`: I would suggest #defocus that is a general chat channel, or you can use the service bot to search for a channel,14:12
ubottutraveller`: I would suggest #defocus that is a general chat channel, or you can use the service bot to search for a channel,: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*14:12
technojabberDo you have the commands line for zorin is 614:12
DJones!zorin | technojabber14:13
technojabberZorin is 614:13
technojabber0s 614:13
DJonestechnojabber: Sorry, I thought there was a factoid about zorin, its not supported here, I think they've got their own support channel mentioned on their website14:13
technojabberDo you know it14:14
DJonesI don't, have a look at their website, it should tell you there14:14
Go-Subsomebody have ubuntu 12.10 and xchat with ssl ?14:15
Go-SubI need a secure chat channel.14:16
nearstGo-Sub, +Z14:16
nearstGo-Sub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto14:17
FrancuzHey everyone, I'm having a little problem with a cronjob I'm trying to set :14:19
Francuzi'm trying to turn on a program everytime it gets shut down by using onscheduler.sh and putting it in crontab.14:19
FrancuzWhen i run it manually from /root/ it does not work, when i run it manually from /root/bet / it works, when I run it from crontab it does not work, (even if I add "cd /root/bet/" at the begining of the onscheduler.sh script)14:19
Francuzcrontab : http://www.pastebin.ca/231340814:19
Francuzonscheduler.sh : http://www.pastebin.ca/231340914:19
FloodBot1Francuz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:19
jribFrancuz: your slashes are backwards and "sh" is redundant14:19
jribFrancuz: also this script seems very fragile.  What happens if you start running other java programs?14:22
SolarisBoya better way to test is not by empty string but by return code as well like grep -q returns 0 if found but 1 if not - in your case you may catch your own grep line though.14:23
Francuzit works with other java programs, the problem is probably due to the fact that the java is using mostly relative path and no absolute path, but as i am not the one who wrote the java, I don't know how to change it,14:23
YokoBRhi dudes14:23
Francuzok, thanks for the grep -q option, what do you mean by fragile ? i'm pretty new at writing scripts so i do not have the "basic reflexes",14:24
YokoBRplease, i have a hybrid apu/gpu, a HP G42, both AMD. I just can't enable the discrete one.14:24
SolarisBoyFrancuz: thers a lot of ways that script will go wrong -14:25
jribFrancuz: I'd go to #bash, explain what your actual goal is, and ask for best practices.  And SolarisBoy might have some suggestions here too of course14:25
SolarisBoyjrib: good point - i'd say other than your code which you should check if it works it works, ensure it is executable, put a sheabang line at top and take the redundant things jrib pointed out the crontab, ensure its in roots crontab if you need root to run it as well14:26
SolarisBoythats it =)14:26
SolarisBoy+ redirect 2>&1 somewhere to log the run and you'll be fine eventually - sorry for the spam afterthough14:26
technojabberWhen i click on update on zorin os 6 it was puting Ubuntu 11.10 on my system then my computer would not boot so I had to reinstall zorin14:27
Francuzi'm in root's crontab,14:27
SolarisBoyFrancuz: you can pm me if you want to avoid cluttering the room i have some suggestions for you though14:28
Physicisthow send a text to you hekp me?14:28
jribSolarisBoy: it's pretty quiet here and others might be interested :)14:29
SolarisBoycool - didn't want to impose or anything14:29
Noctis_I installed Ubuntu as a second OS and now I cannot reach Win7. This was probably caused by the fact that while installing I first formated the partition which contained Win XP (I had Win Xp and & in dualboot before installing Ubuntu, it was installed first and XP - now Ubuntu partition is boot partition). and its bootloader.  Most of the grub guides are outdated, the new ones advice using grub customiser, which I installed but when I14:29
SolarisBoyFrancuz: so i would say number one lets ensure your script a) runs manually b) has a shebang line c) is executable14:30
Noctis_password and does nothing afterwards. Can somebody advise?14:30
technojabberThe ubuntu GUI would not load on my old PC with 735 of ram14:30
jribNoctis_: can you get to ubuntu now?  Through grub?14:30
Francuzthe script is chmod 77714:30
jrib!who | Francuz14:31
ubottuFrancuz: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)14:31
SolarisBoyFrancuz: thats overkill you can do chmod u+x to the file and ensure it is owned properly in the future thats just allowing anyone to do anything to the file they want -14:31
SolarisBoyFrancuz: but it is executable so fine -14:31
Noctis_Well yes, I'm using it now.14:32
PhysicistAnybody could say, how can I fix that error? - locale.Error: unsupported locale setting14:32
SolarisBoyFrancuz: ok the first thing in your script should be the shebang line if you intend for other things to run it like cron without specifically saying which shell to use - #!/bin/sh should the first line, in your case it's not so you can fix that quickly?14:32
Francuzbe back in a minute with it changed,14:33
Noctis_I mean it loads and works fine, I just can't get to Win 7. The partition is there, I can see it mounted. It is just the grub that doesn't see it.14:34
PhysicistAnybody could say, how can I fix that error? -> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting14:34
BlkrdoI am trying to install amd driver using the root shell in recovery mode but i am geting a permission denied,how to do it?14:35
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SolarisBoyPhysicist: do you have something incorrect in /etc/locale.conf?14:35
SolarisBoyPhysicist: when do you get the error?14:35
Francuz!SolarisBoy dont, see any changes, (not working with cron, still working normally)14:36
ubottuFrancuz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:36
SolarisBoyFrancuz: thats fine you have added the line correct?14:36
Francuz!SolarisBoy => I just have to add "!/bin/sh" ?14:37
SolarisBoyFrancuz: no on line 1 of the script you need to add exactly this (inside qoutes) "#!/bin/sh"14:37
SolarisBoysorry if that was confusing, you need to add whats inside the quotes14:38
Francuzdone, but as it has a # at the begining isn't it worthless? (or #! is a special command I don't know about )14:39
Physicist_SolarisBoy: I do not know if exist any error in the referenced file system. I get when use the terminal for: update, upgrade, installation...14:39
SolarisBoyFrancuz: correct #! has a special meaning when at the top of your shell files14:39
Francuzwhat is it (every new knowlage is good to have )14:40
SolarisBoyFrancuz: it means "this script should be run under this interpeter"14:41
genii-aroundThe "shebang"14:41
learningLinuxMy start menu pops up everytime I turn on my computer???   How to stop it?14:41
Physicist_SolarisBoy: I do not know if exist any error in the referenced file system. I get when use the terminal to: update, upgrade, installation...14:41
SolarisBoyPhysicist_: got it - what locale were you looking to have installed English/UTF-8?14:42
learningLinuxAlso, I get the system program problem bug going.. can someone help me solve it?14:42
learningLinuxsmall system program problem detected window comes up shortly after getting to the desktop14:43
SolarisBoyFrancuz: ok once you have that fixed with the proper shebang line - try to run it again, but this time, this time you should run it like this "./your_script >/tmp/error.log 2>&1"14:43
berdarioHello, is anybody here knowledgeable about udev? I'm trying to understand what exactly is the kernel name of a device14:44
SolarisBoyberdario: which device?14:44
Francuzso I have to run it manually or from the crontab with this command ? and what does it do?14:44
berdarioSolarisBoy: a ZTE usb 3gmodem14:44
SolarisBoyFrancuz: this command runs your script but redirects any error/output to a file under /tmp/14:45
berdarioSolarisBoy: I read this: "%k evaluates to the kernel name for the device, e.g. "sda3" for a device that would (by default) appear at /dev/sda3"14:45
SolarisBoyberdario: i assume you have the /sys device name?14:45
SolarisBoyberdario: correct14:45
Physicist_SolarisBoy: I do not understand. I am in Brazil and The locale is configured as São Paulo..14:45
SolarisBoyberdario: type sudo udevadm monitor and plug in and out your modem14:45
genii-aroundberdario: Almost all  those get assigned a tty device like /dev/ttyUSB0  or such14:45
SolarisBoyyea what genii-around said is also right14:46
SolarisBoyi think it already has a udev rule thats doing that -14:46
phunyguyI know regular Ubuntu has system-wide proxy capability, but I am on Kubuntu, and I cannot for the life of me find any similar setup to make this happen.  I am on a very restricted network at work, but they have proxies set up for everything.  How can I make Kubuntu use a http and socks proxy for everything? Thanks.14:46
berdarioSolarisBoy: ok, how come if I connect an usb mass storage, and I do sudo udevadm info --name=/dev/bus/usb/002/037 --attribute-walk (with the usb storage on bus2 and device37) "sdb" is nowhere to be foun?14:46
SolarisBoysd* names are dynamic14:46
berdariobecause apparently, the kernel name for my modem is "5-1"14:47
SolarisBoyif your looking specifically for one in a staatic manner you may be faulted14:47
berdarioSolarisBoy: ok, so that line I pasted before14:47
berdariois outdated?14:47
SolarisBoyyou should find a more stable attribute to walk14:47
Francuzwhen starting it manually with this command error.log is unchange(still empty),14:47
SolarisBoyit probably has a serial id you can use or such which is more unique14:47
berdariook, but just to be explicit14:48
berdariothis: "%k evaluates to the kernel name for the device, e.g. "sda3" for a device that would (by default) appear at /dev/sda3"14:48
SolarisBoyFrancuz: did the command work? that may indicate it did - what is the result of your script?14:48
SolarisBoyberdario: thats correct14:48
berdarioisn't true anymore, when talking about the names... because now they're setted dinamically?14:48
Francuzit worked, the java turned on, ad usual when doing it manually, I'm putting this command in cron now,14:48
SolarisBoyberdario: it is true14:49
SolarisBoyberdario: is that whats returned from your modem is what your saying?14:49
Physicist_SolarisBoy: I do not understand. I am in Brazil and The locale is configured as São Paulo.. Any problem with that?14:49
SolarisBoyPhysicist_: you most likely just need to map that to a actual local name int he expected format - not sure what that is for Sao-Paulo =)14:50
berdarioSolarisBoy: not quite, the kernel name is used as an argument in a udev rule14:50
SolarisBoyyou may want to start with en_US.UTF-8 until you get it figured Physicist_14:50
SolarisBoyberdario: got you14:50
berdarioSolarisBoy: so, if it's true... udevadm info DOESN'T return the kernel name, is this correct?14:50
SolarisBoyudevadm returns both kernel and sys class names14:51
SolarisBoyit really depends on the argument fed after that command what your viewing14:51
jim_ec2how do you disable services with the new services interface?14:51
Physicist_SolarisBoy: Thank you.14:51
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SolarisBoyFrancuz: ok there are other things in your script i would fix however but as mentioned the shebang was likely the issue14:52
SolarisBoy*showstopping issue14:52
ankuri am using iball 3.5g dongle to connect to the internet in windows 814:53
ankuri want to use that dongle in ubuntu14:54
ankurcan any one please help me14:54
ankurhow can use that modem in ubuntu14:54
ankuri have no idea14:54
maheshankur : Boot in to Ubuntu and connect the modem in to USB port14:55
ankurmahesh but how to configure it14:55
ankurwith ubuntu14:55
ankurin windows i first install the driver of the dongle14:56
maheshankur : you will have to configure the internet connection manually14:56
ohmagehey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in14:56
ankurand then connect using that driver14:56
ankurfrom where14:56
ohmageis there something specific i should be doing before hand for secure boot to allow the disk to boot from cd rom14:57
maheshyou can see the network connection icon on right corner14:57
ankuredit connection and then mobile broadband??14:58
maheshankur: go to manage connections14:58
maheshankur: configure in Mobile Broadband14:58
ankurthere is a option of "edit connection"14:58
phunyguy!enter | ankur, mahesh14:59
ubottuankur, mahesh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!14:59
ankurhow can i connect to this profile when i plugin my dongle ...there is no connect buttton15:00
ohmagehey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in15:01
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airoshello everyone15:03
airosI need help15:03
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phunyguy!ask | airos15:03
ubottuairos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:03
ohmagehey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in15:03
phunyguy!patience | ohmage15:03
ubottuohmage: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:03
phunyguydon't be sorry, just fix it.  :)15:04
ohmagebeing sorry is part of fixing a mistake15:05
ankurhey thanksss dude ...i have connected to internet using my dongle15:05
ohmage;) thing is i know i can just disable secure boot and boot from cd anyway, but as 12.10 is advertised as uefi secure boot enabled i thought id give it a go but it seems my bios disables the cd rom on secure boot15:06
ankurthanxs a lot mahesh15:06
airosSo I have to perform vulnerability detection improvment in openvas, and the goal is to recognize when php5 package is an ubuntu one (like PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10 instead of PHP/5.2.4).15:06
airosAnd I need to find a web site or somethign like that where I can update my database of security good package15:06
airosOR a web site where I put my package version and I get all the vulnerabilities know on it15:07
phunyguy!enter | airos15:07
ubottuairos: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:07
airosI have found only this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/ and I wont to know if someone know another site15:08
airossorry for the multiple lines15:08
ankuri want to install a package from terminal so i went to that directory from terminal and type the command "./configure" it generated some output and then i typed the second command "make" but it shows "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." this massege i dont know what dows it means and what should i do to install my package15:13
LaserSharkankur: what is the package15:13
LaserSharkankur: just do in terminal15:13
LaserSharkankur: "sudo apt-get install wine", you shouldn't have to configure and make it15:14
ankuri am doing it in terminal15:14
LaserSharkankur: did you do "sudo apt-get install wine" in terminal?15:14
LaserShark(without the quotes)15:14
ankuri am doing this right now but i want to know that if i have a package sooo how can i install that package on my own15:15
LaserSharkankur: well, normally ./configure && make && make install does the trick with most packages, i don't know why make would be failing15:15
LaserSharkankur: in terminal, do "ls"15:16
ankuryaa i also read the same commands and procedure in an article but still i am having this problm15:16
LaserSharkand post it in pastebin15:17
LaserSharkand give me a link15:17
ankurwhat is pastebin15:17
savagecrocsysctl -w kernel.shmmax=17179869184 << when does this take effect, immediatly or do i have to reboot?15:18
LaserSharkankur, go to http://pastebin.com/15:18
LaserSharkand post the output there15:18
ankurokkk....wait for a while15:18
ankurLaserShark: http://pastebin.com/Qb7VyUfC15:20
LaserSharkankur, ok i see the problem15:20
LaserShark"Makefile.in" should be just "Makefile"15:21
LaserShark"mv Makefile.in Makefile"15:21
heywoodLaserShark: shouldn't ankur try autoconf to create the makefile?15:21
LaserSharkheywood: i'm just assuming it's something stupid15:21
LaserSharkankur, don't try that yet15:22
LaserSharki'm pretty newish to linux, but shouldn't ./configure create the makefile15:22
elena-IKProblem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that keybinding stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. dr_willis_ asked if this happens for all users: to check I created a second user and disabled autologin. Now the keybinding worked fine for _both_ users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keyb15:22
elena-IKinding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works. Then I disabled autologin again, and again it worked fine for both users. Any ideas?15:22
Francuzif anyone wanted to see the solved problem => http://paste.ubuntu.com/1644305/15:22
dydzEz2anyone know some good terminal based programs that are just good for monitoring network traffic15:22
dydzEz2or even computer hardware15:23
ankurmay i now able to install the package with tha "./configure,make and make install" command15:23
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LaserSharkankur, just a sec15:23
LaserSharkankur: try "make depend"15:24
LaserSharkankur: it's listed here: http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/installing-wine-source15:24
ankurnow by "make depend " this output is generated "Makefile:40: *** missing separator.  Stop."15:25
ikoniaankur: what ar eyou doing ?15:25
RFlemingWhat's the name of the program that takes a picture using the webcam during install?15:25
RFlemingis that Cheesy?15:25
LaserSharkikonia, trying to build wine15:25
ikoniawhy ?15:25
LaserSharkikonia, i told him to use apt-get15:25
LaserSharkikonia, and he did, but now he wants to build wine as well15:26
heywoodconsidering fail2ban, sshguard, and denyhosts for protecting my ssh server. does each one of those do something the other two don't? or is installing all three redundant?15:26
ikoniawhy ?15:26
LaserSharkikonia, i haven't a clue15:26
ankurhey it all about of my knowledge15:26
ikoniawhat knowledge ?15:26
ikoniawhy are you doing this /15:26
ankuri am installing wine right now by apt-get install command15:27
RFlemingheywood, used to use fail2ban15:27
RFlemingheywood, but realized better firewall rules work better.15:27
ankurstill i want to know that if ever i have a package then how can i install it15:27
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ikoniaankur: you don't want to do this15:28
ikoniaankur: each package is different that works different at build tine15:28
craigbass1976I'm about to install ubuntu for a fellow who is used to Vista.  I will no be able to support him very well.  Which desktop (I can monkey with XFCE, but was hoping to avoid the monkeying part) acts most like xp/vista/win7 ?15:28
RFlemingheywood, I secured up my SSH server by disallowing the typing of passwords.  Authentication is key-based only.15:28
heywoodRFleming: it's a remote server that i only ssh into every once in a (rare) while. i like one (or more) of those b/c they can dynamicaly adjust the FW rules (well, at least hosts.deny).15:28
ikoniawine is not something you should be trying to build unless you have a valid reason15:28
heywoodRFleming: PW auth already disabled. ssh keys only.15:28
atari314Hello, I did a minimal install (minimal-CD) of Ubuntu 12.10. Afterwards I installed xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-video-intel. But while testing 3d rending the glxgears program returns libGL error: failed to load driver: i915. Any ideas about this?15:29
RFlemingheywood, you on a static IP address, or posess the ability to vpn into the network the box is on, or is this truly a public box?15:29
ankurikonia: apt-get needs internet connection for the installation but what can i do when i dont have a internet connection ???15:29
ikoniaankur: nothing, as you can't download the source if you don't have an internet connection15:29
ikoniaankur: if you don't have an internet connection, you are stuck for any form of packages, and compiling does not get around that15:30
philinuxcraigbass1976: let him try a live usb. ubuntu and kubuntu15:30
heywoodRFleming: box is a server at my family's home. (long story, but there's a valid reason it has to be there, not at my own place or co-located.)15:30
craigbass1976Any of the tutorials I see are old15:30
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD15:30
heywoodRFleming: it has a static IP from their ISP AFAIK, but every once in a while that IP changes (i think the last time was after a power failure).15:31
heywoodRFleming: or when the cable modem reboots.15:31
ankurso there is no way to download the software at once and keep that setup in a pendrive and install it when ever i need it15:31
ikoniaankur: check the link ubottu just gave you15:31
heywoodRFleming: guess i could try to set up dynDNS or something. but for now i'm treating it as a public box.15:31
jpdsankur: There is, apt-get install -d <package name> and look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ .15:32
ankursory,,,,but i missed it15:32
craigbass1976philinux, he's going to be on his own.  I'm wondering though, with browsing the internet being his primary activity, if he could deal with Unity.  He doesn't have a smart phone, so he's not really used to that type of intercface at all.15:32
xevioxhi guys, how can I mark a self created package as "security update" so it will be updated automatically by the package manager?15:32
ankurk....i get it ...thanxxx for the support15:33
HelmuthonianHi I have a script.sh that opens a java program. So I start this script in terminal. How can I put the current location of the terminal in my shell script.15:33
jpdsxeviox: I don't believe you can.15:33
heywoodRFleming: as for VPN, i suppose i could do it, but the box is the only server on the LAN side of the home network. it runs 12.04.1 LTS. i'd been advised (here and elsewhere) that ssh is much more lightweight than setting up a full-blown VPN.15:33
jpdsxeviox: Also, just because it's a security update, doesn't mean that every client is set to update like that.15:33
philinuxcraigbass1976: all he has to do is click the firefox icon15:33
jpdsheywood: openvpn isn't that heavyweight...15:34
ankurhey  can i login as a root15:34
philinuxcraigbass1976: you could unlock from the launcher any he doesn't need15:34
jpds!root | ankur15:34
ubottuankur: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo15:34
xevioxjpds: no I run a server instance of Ubuntu that gets packages of a self hosted repository. The server is set up with the option "install security updates automatically". No I want to mark an updated package (self created) as security update so that it gets installed automatically15:34
heywoodjpds: ok, will take a look. but ssh from commandline (possibly with X forwarding) already does everything i need. is there some other reason to use openvpn instead?15:35
craigbass1976philinux, and there's a way to tone stuff down right?  This is an older Toshiba laptop.15:35
EaglemanI am unable to connect from the outside with my current iptables, i have no clue what is wrong:  http://pastebin.com/ynyxHPvm   simply reloading the exact same rules will solve the problem for a few hours but then it starts over15:35
* fully_human thinks whoever came up with that root quote is a genius!15:35
philinuxcraigbass1976: what are the specs15:35
jpdsheywood: In case of IP changes?15:35
ankursoo when ever i run a command which needs the root privilages i should mention "sudo" before the command again and again and type the password after that15:36
craigbass1976philinux, I don't know yet.  It just landed in my lap.  Stand by a minute.15:36
jpdsankur: Yes, and it caches the password for a few minutes.15:36
heywoodjpds: ok, but the client on the remote end still needs to know where to connect to, right? i assume that would be via dyndns or some such...15:37
RFlemingheywood, the reasons I suggested that is because what you're looking for is more a rate limiter than anything else.15:37
theperfectpunkhey escott :-)15:37
jpdsheywood: Oh, I thought the home server would be a vpn client too and you'd have a central server somewhere. Sorry - misread.15:37
theperfectpunkhow are you?15:37
RFlemingyou don't want that.  You want to be able to guarantee secure access to the box 100% of the time (when it's running).15:37
heywoodjpds: no prob.15:37
theperfectpunkescott i couldn't set up bluetooth15:38
escotttheperfectpunk, i dont know much about bluetooth15:38
theperfectpunkwon't turn on15:38
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theperfectpunkdo you know anyone here who does?15:38
EaglemanI am unable to connect from the outside with my current iptables, i have no clue what is wrong:  http://pastebin.com/ynyxHPvm   simply reloading the exact same rules will solve the problem for a few hours but then it starts over15:39
heywoodRFleming: that's about right. i'm not worried about someone breaking my ssh auth keys -- rather someone either DOSing the machine by hammering it, or compromising it via some (as-yet unknown) bug in ssh or something.15:39
theperfectpunkbluetooth not turning on15:39
theperfectpunkanyone help15:39
theperfectpunkralink rt329015:39
ikoniaEagleman: drop your rules totally and run for a few hours see if the problem comes back15:39
miebster_atworkis 13.04 stable yet?15:40
heywoodRFleming: from what i read in the manpages, all three (sshguard, fail2ban, denyhosts) do roughly what i want -- just trying to understand what the overlap / redundancy is.15:40
theperfectpunk12.10 isn't completely stable15:40
bazhang!helpme | theperfectpunk15:40
ubottutheperfectpunk: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude15:40
miebster_atworkwhat is stable?15:40
bazhangmiebster_atwork, no it's not, discussion in #ubuntu+115:40
bazhangmiebster_atwork, the latest is 12.1015:41
Touhou11miebster_atwork: Debian is quite stable15:41
Eaglemanikonia, it wont15:41
bazhangTouhou11, thats not helpful15:41
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ikoniaEagleman: it won't what ?15:41
theperfectpunkbluetooth rt3290 anyone>15:41
theperfectpunknot working15:41
theperfectpunknot turning on15:41
ubottuAvoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude15:41
bazhangtheperfectpunk, be patient, stop repeating15:41
Eaglemanikonia, the problem wont come back, it started when i started using iptables. But the problem is that i dont see what's wrong with my current set of rules15:42
theperfectpunkthey won't be able15:42
theperfectpunkto read it15:42
ikoniaEagleman: home network ?15:42
theperfectpunkif i don't type again15:42
theperfectpunkwould they?15:42
RFlemingheywood, they all roughly do the same thing.  fail2ban requires iptables.  It monitors your logs and then places a ban on the ip address via iptables15:42
ikoniatheperfectpunk: they can't read it if they put you on ignore for being annoying15:42
bazhangtheperfectpunk, try once every 15 minutes, not every 15 seconds15:42
FloodBot1theperfectpunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:42
escottEagleman, those would be a bit easier to read if they were in iptables -L format15:42
RFlemingheywood_away, the problem with all of them is that you can actually self-DoS yourself :)15:42
theperfectpunk15 min15:42
heywood_awayRFleming: funny you say that. that's exactly what prompted my question! :O15:43
Eaglemanescott, you sure? this is exactly the format how they want it in #netfilter15:43
ikoniaEagleman: what did netfilter say about the problem ?15:43
heywood_awayi managed to lock myself out b/c denyhosts banned my remote IP.15:43
Eaglemanikonia, nothing they'r afk15:43
RFlemingheywood_away, that's why a vpn would be better suited.15:44
ikoniaEagleman: then how do you know it's the format they wanted it in ?15:44
heywood_awayRFleming: had to go to a neighborhood starbucks to get back in there. then spent a few hours trying to figure out which of the three was the culprit.15:44
Eaglemanescott, iptables -L wont show everything15:44
Eaglemanikonia, because its in their topic15:44
ikoniaEagleman: ahh, fair enough15:44
heywood_awayRFleming: (hours rather than minutes b/c i'm learning on the fly)15:44
RFlemingyou take SSH off of the publicly facing side, and move it in. You VPN in, then ssh into the box15:44
ikoniaEagleman: is this on a home network ?15:44
Eaglemanikonia, a bit, my server does have a WAN ip address attached to eth1.1015:45
philinuxcraigbass1976: what model is it15:45
heywood_awayRFleming: right, but VPN into what? something's got to be running the VPN server, right?15:45
ikoniaEagleman: I'm wondering if the dhcp resust / refresh is killing the nat/masqurade15:45
Eaglemanikonia, everything is static15:45
ikoniaEagleman: even the wan ?15:45
Eaglemanexcept the WAN ip address, but it did not changed for over an year now15:45
escottEagleman, i find that hard to read... maybe im just not practiced15:45
RFlemingheywood_away, you limit what's publicly facing, DROP (not reject) all inbound requests to invalid ports (really slows down a port scan), and put in rules for banning bad vpn client requests.15:46
ikoniaEagleman: the change may not be the problem, the request/lease renew maybe15:46
RFlemingthen you can guarantee yourself access to the box whenever without self-DoSing yourself.15:46
Eaglemanikonia, their lease time is 48 hours, still wont explain the problem coming back every few hours15:47
IntensityHi. I'm pleased that Ubuntu gracefully sets up my AT&T mobile broadband card (Momentum 4G) when I connect it (logged in via Unity interface).  It interactively asks me for details such as carrier.  But I'd like to know how I can replicate that setup from scratch by copying created configuration files so that I can have network access on a text-based system too.15:47
IntensityDoes anyone have an idea where such configuration files are stored and written to?15:47
RFlemingheywood_away, there are decent routers out there now that have integrated VPN and place your hosts in a DMZ so they're not totally exposed as well... shore it up with hardware.15:47
RFlemingthat's another option to look at.15:48
genii-aroundIntensity: Usually somewhere like /etc/ppp/peers15:48
ikoniaEagleman: it still checks ever $x time15:48
LoneTrooperHI, Is there a difference between tar.gz and *.deb (or other package for specific distro) for installing programs? In windows its wiser to use portable packages in cost of comfort (no registry entires= less mess) and i dont know how its with linux i mean is it safer to use tar.gz than *.deb packages? What are consequences of using each of these type of files to install software?15:48
yourimym1hello is there chatroom for tech supp for nvidia geforce ubuntu ?15:48
jambibotyourimym1: Hello from QtJambiBot!15:48
craigbass1976Satellite A215-S4807   I've already got the pdf form http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/home.jsp?nav=Product%20Support  : AMD TurionTM 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL56, 2048MB DDR2 SDRAM...15:48
craigbass1976philinux, ^^15:48
heywood_awayRFleming: ok, i will take a look at the openvpn docs. main thing is that the setup is 2000 miles away from where i am now, so any HW changes will have to wait a long while.15:48
ikoniajambibot: are you a bot15:48
Eaglemanok, i didnt knew that ikonia, any idea how to be sure that is the problem?15:48
ikoniahello test15:49
jambibotikonia: Hello from QtJambiBot!15:49
Eaglemanikonia, dhcp doesnt use any port right?15:49
LoneTrooperso anyone knows the difference?15:49
genii-aroundEagleman: Port 6715:49
delkinHi guys! Here is the problem: I am accessing a windows share folder that I have mounted. And I am not able to 'cd' to windows shortcut. It appears as 'filename.lnk'. What is the best way to handle this issue in order to allow me travel into that folder?15:49
heywood_awayRFleming: meantime i will take a look at the openvpn docs.15:49
ikoniaEagleman: udp port15:49
ikoniaEagleman: can't remember which one15:50
heywood_awayRFleming: as for the router, it's an old linksys. i have to check, but i think i have dd-wrt on it. so i assume i can set up some sort of VPN functionality on it. and it does have a DMZ.15:50
RFlemingheywood_away, oh yeah!15:50
escottdelkin, thats what a link is in windows. its a file with the name of the path to traverse to inside it15:51
Touhou11LoneTrooper: The Windows registry has its uses, there are limitations to portable software. The package manager is aware of files installed via *.deb, whereas tar.gz software is outside of its control. Always use deb files where possible15:51
RFlemingheywood_away, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPN15:51
heywood_awayRFleming: checking router now (via ssh -X). brb...15:51
LoneTroopertouhoull so isnt that safe right? By using portable apps on linux i put my pc at risk right?15:52
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LoneTrooperi used to portable apps i dont need data to be stored about them because i know where i installed them i can remove them easy15:53
philinuxcraigbass1976: should run just fine and dandy15:53
LoneTrooperor should i install portable apps in file system for extra security?15:54
dydzEz2whats a very popular terminal based monitoring tool for network15:54
kenshiroHi, is there any way to request an open source application is included in Ubuntu repos? It's an open source game, ZEQ2 Lite based on Dragon Ball Z :-)15:54
escottkenshiro, you can become a packager and submit it to debian15:55
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Intensitygenii-around: Yeah I would have expected to see something there if there was good integration between the GUI and the typical text-based setups.  But, there is nothing new (besides standard details) in /etc/ppp nor /etc/chatscripts15:55
dydzEz2like something similar to top15:55
dydzEz2i really like top15:55
dydzEz2 ntop is browser based for the stas15:56
dydzEz2on top you see whats up in the terminal15:56
ikoniantop runs in the terminal15:56
dydzEz2oh i gues im just having a lot of problems with it on a VM15:56
dydzEz2for some reasono15:56
craigbass1976philinux, I'm all over it then.15:57
kenshiroescott I'm very interested, I will invetigate that, I'm programmer but never submitted a package to a distro :)15:57
LoneTrooperhttp://www.moddb.com/games/zeq2lite hes that game in summary it says in supports linux so extract archive and look for linux executables15:57
ubottuThe packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring15:57
escottkenshiro, ^^^15:57
ikoniayou're right, ntop needs a browser, sorry15:58
dydzEz2is nmon popular?15:59
kenshiroescott and LoneTrooper, thank you for your help :-)15:59
akSeyahello folks :)16:00
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user01i have a question about unicode, i see there are different versions, etc . . . 5.0, 6.0 etc . . . how do you know what "version" is supported?16:01
nomodesetHello, i've installed gajim16:02
nomodesetbut i need python-farsight16:02
nomodesetto enable video/audio16:02
escottuser01, as i understand things the versions just mean that additional characters have been added. so in some sense "all" are supported (they all parse) and "none" are supported there is no one font that includes all glyphs16:03
nomodesetbut that package does not appear at the repos16:03
kicklighter__nomodest python-farsight is only for windows internals....16:03
nomodesetkicklighter__: Hello, then what i can do to enable16:04
nomodesetthis features on gajim16:04
akSeyalisten I have two nics in my computer, eth0 with internet access and eth1 for internal network. I want to block everything from outside (eth0) and allow only specified ports while letting all ports open for eth1. I guess I can do this with this command "iptables -P INPUT DROP; iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" right?16:04
user01escott: so when they add a character to a codepoint . . . how would you know if it is supported?  what does it mean "add a codepoint"?  I know the space is the same 1 million plus combinations16:04
philinuxcraigbass1976: if it can boot from usb all the better.16:04
IntensityI believe that it's nm-applet that's setting that up; it's certainly running.16:05
user01there wouldnt be a way to know for instance what version of unicode my linux system supports?16:05
escottuser01, in some sense there is not operating system anywhere the supports unicode. its not practical. the number of people who read/write documents in korean, arabic, english, and elvish is very small16:06
genii-aroundHehe, elvish16:07
user01escott: I would say there are a lot that write in english actually . ..16:07
escottgenii-around, yeah thats terribly inaccurate of me. i didnt specify which elvish. tengwar in this case :)16:07
Eaglemanikonia, what will happen when the dhclclient and server cant contact each other?16:07
escottuser01, AND. ie all in the same document16:07
IntensityAha.  I did a text search and I believe that it's being stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/16:07
Eaglemanikonia, the IP address is not changing or removed from my eth1.10 interface16:08
user01escott: really?  I would think in ubuntu there would tons of people writing documents in all the different languages16:08
escottuser01, pick any font face you want. there are many many codepoints in unicode that the font face does not have a corresponding glyph for and you would see that block with numbers in it16:08
escottuser01, and they use different fonts. koreans use korean fonts but dont bother to install arabic/tengwar/cyrrilic/etc16:09
escottuser01, at the end of the day its the installed typefaces that dictate if the unicode sample is rendered in a meaningful fashion or not.16:11
escottuser01, tengwar is a great example as you almost certainly dont have it installed and so the sample on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar won't render correctly, but if you install the fonts it will16:12
VOiceI need help.16:12
tgm4883!ask | VOice16:12
ubottuVOice: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:12
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VOiceHow do I install a wireless driver? I have a Toshiba C850-B70516:13
genii-aroundVOice: More details of what you need help with could be useful to us16:13
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YokoBRhey guys, i have a hybrid hp g42, with amd/amd apu/gpu... how can i install them drivers16:13
VOiceHow do I install a wireless driver? I have a Toshiba C850-B705. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10.16:13
compdocYokoBR, what drivers do you need?16:13
user01escott: actually i think it does, i installed symbola, which includes the symbols added in unicode 6.0 such as 'pile of poo'16:14
philinuxVOice: does wireless not work at all. Can you connect wired first16:14
VOiceI'm on wired.16:14
YokoBRHD 4200 (apu) and HD 6310 (gpu)16:14
philinuxVOice: look in additional drivers. what version ubuntu16:14
VOiceI installed Additional Drivers using Ubuntu Software Center but it's not showing anything, empty.16:15
philinuxVOice: top right select system settings and look in additionnal drivers.16:15
YokoBRVOice, you can also try ndiswrapper16:15
VOiceHow? Any tutorial?16:16
VOiceAnd aditional drivers is empty.16:16
compdocYokoBR, amd recently released new drivers. you might start there:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx16:16
VOiceAditional Drivers says: NO proprietary drivers are in use.16:16
genii-aroundVOice: If you put the results of the command: sudo lshw -C network     into a pastebin for us to look at, it could be helpful. Also the result of:  lspci -nn16:17
VOiceOK, I will, 1 minute.16:17
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escottuser01, perhaps fontconfig doesn't know about the font? isn't configured to use the matching symbols from that font?16:18
escottuser01, check with gnome-character-map to see if it gets picked up at the codepoint16:18
user01escott: the font displays for me . . . i was wondering about other people16:18
jilcan encode mp3 sound with vlc on ubuntu?  I receive a message say ffmpeg (libav..) does not includ mpeg layer I et II16:19
user01escott: they would have to have the font installed basically16:19
jilcan I (sorry)16:19
user01escott: like if i encode it in unicode, they cant read the pile of poo unless they have one16:20
escottuser01, unicode has this big set of rules regarding what to do when an exact codepoint match is not found16:20
VOicegenii-around: http://pastebin.com/rCV8w4DK16:20
escottuser01, sometimes it can render in another glyph that is close (ie maybe missing an accent) in other cases you get a box with little numbers in it (that basically means "there should be a unicode glyph here but i can't render it")16:21
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theperfectpunksudo make works16:22
genii-aroundVOice: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized16:22
theperfectpunkbut sudo make install does not16:22
theperfectpunkcan anybody tell me what's wrong>16:22
VOicegenii-around: will that work?16:22
jilany mp3 on ubuntu ?  I also get an error with avidemux.16:23
escottuser01, there is no way for you to know what they will see. no more than you can say if they will view your webpage in a Sans Serif or a Serif font. for all you know they are blind.16:23
philinuxVOice: what happens when u unplug wired. does it offer any wirelss points16:23
theperfectpunkescott sudo make install doesn't work in a package16:23
theperfectpunkwhat to do?16:24
theperfectpunkbut sudo make does16:24
genii-aroundVOice: It's a pain, I know, but it looks like this is the case with the adapter you have which is unclaimed, the driver needs to be manually made for it ( vendor:device code of 10ec:8723  )16:25
VOicegenii-around: i ran the commands you gave me, after checking this showed:16:26
VOiceFATAL: Module rtl8723e not found.16:26
escotttheperfectpunk, you should not "sudo make" its unnecessary and potentially dangerous16:27
dydzEz2man i cant find a good stock market watcher on ubuntu16:27
theperfectpunkok i did make16:27
theperfectpunkbut make install did not work16:27
theperfectpunkthey are drivers from secure source16:27
theperfectpunkto get bluetooth workin16:28
escotttheperfectpunk, if you have to run "make install" that has to be "sudo make install" because unless you ./configure --prefix=/home/username/something16:28
theperfectpunkthere is no configure file in the package16:28
theperfectpunkm trying to install the bluetooth driver in this16:29
escotttheperfectpunk, then "make; sudo make install" would be sensible (provided checkinstall is not working)16:29
theperfectpunklet me check if checkinstall is working16:30
theperfectpunkcheckinstall not working16:31
YokoBRguys, i think i found out my problem. My hybrid apu/gpu needs both legacy and new amd drivers.. how do i solve that?16:31
theperfectpunkno rule to make target install16:31
theperfectpunkis the error16:31
TheHawkHey under 100% cpu load how much temp must the cpu sensor say to be sure its not heating? under 60 celsius?16:32
VOiceSO, what do I do with my problem?16:32
jiltheperfectpunk, it sound like you make did not go as expected.16:32
jillikes your16:33
theperfectpunkno errors with make16:33
theperfectpunkescott any more idead?16:34
escotttheperfectpunk, you've fallen into the bad habit of putting sudo in front of everything even when it doesnt need sudo. always try things without sudo first.16:35
Fuzzleswhats better ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?16:35
escotttheperfectpunk, i haven't been following your problem so i dont know what you are dealing with at the moment16:35
escott!lts | Fuzzles16:35
ubottuFuzzles: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)16:35
escottFuzzles, there is no best. depends on what you want16:35
theperfectpunkmake alone doesn't work16:35
theperfectpunkit gives permission denied16:36
theperfectpunkso i sudo make16:36
jose__Hello guys. Is there a command to open an application but not bringing it to the front?? I looked for gvfs-open options but found none. Thanks.16:36
escotttheperfectpunk, you probably unpacked things with sudo16:36
theperfectpunkno other choice escott16:36
Fuzzlesescott, well i heard 12.10 had and has a lot of problems16:36
g16theperfectpunk: under DPOinuxSTA_V2600_/README_STA_pci, I read: Supporting kernel: Linux 2.4 and 2.6 series. Does that match the number you see by running uname -r on the terminal?16:36
theperfectpunknope mine is 3.216:36
theperfectpunkso these drivers won't work?16:37
escotttheperfectpunk, what you should be doing is: (a) downloading a tarball (b) unpacking that tarball without root permissions ie tar -xzvf filename.tgz [NO SUDO] (c) running configure and make without root (d) running checkinstall/make install as root16:37
g16They're not guaranteed to work.16:37
fegotheperfectpunk: there should also be a README or INSTALL file, they might be helpul in installation16:38
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theperfectpunkhttp://downloads.zotac.com/mediadrivers/mb/download/NB087_Ubuntu.zip nothing have a look16:38
theperfectpunkm trying to install bluetooth odriver not lan16:38
theperfectpunkare the tar balls extracted with sudo16:39
theperfectpunkrequire root permission to be modified or deleted?16:39
escotttheperfectpunk, you should not extract tarballs as root. there is no need to16:39
theperfectpunkthe folder is not getting deleted16:39
SonikkuAmericaJust [ tar -flags ] them.16:39
escotttheperfectpunk, if you do sudo tar -xzvf then you've made it so that only root can work with those files16:40
Fuzzlesescott, i hear theres some problems with 12.10 is taht true16:40
xanguatheperfectpunk: a bluetooth dongle¿ how do you know your bluetooth is not recognized¿16:40
theperfectpunki can't delete them16:40
escotttheperfectpunk, forcing you to use a privileged make which is silly16:40
genii-aroundVOice: Apologies on lag, work required me for a while. You may require a reboot for the system to see the new driver was built. There may be some command to force it to see a new module immediately like ldconfig works for libraries, but I do not know it offhand.16:40
SonikkuAmericaxangua: You do realize you're using an inverted question mark, right?16:40
theperfectpunkno it's a internal bluetooth16:40
escottFuzzles, there are problems with all software16:40
theperfectpunkescott u are a genius16:40
VOiceok genii16:41
genii-aroundVOice: This is assuming you did not receive any errors on all the previous steps16:41
theperfectpunkcan't turn it on16:41
escotttheperfectpunk, I would sudo rm -rf ./the_folder_you_extracted and then redo the tar -xzvf without sudo16:41
theperfectpunkescott will do16:41
theperfectpunkthank you16:41
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xanguatheperfectpunk: was it recognized when you used a live cd/usb¿16:42
theperfectpunknope i installed a driver for it16:42
theperfectpunkit's ralink rt329816:42
xanguatheperfectpunk: i had to install blueman to show the indicator even when my bluetooth dongle was recognized16:43
SonikkuAmericaxangua: On which distro? I have no trouble with GNOME showing the indicator.16:43
theperfectpunkok m installing blueman'=16:43
SonikkuAmericaAnd come to think of it neither does Unity.16:43
xanguaSonikkuAmerica: on ubuntu 12.0416:44
SonikkuAmericaxangua: That's weird. I might have to Google that...16:44
SonikkuAmerica(Well, Google is a bit extreme, I just created a /command for it on XChat. lol)16:44
theperfectpunkinstalled didn't work16:45
theperfectpunkeverything is grayed out16:45
SonikkuAmericaxangua: The System Settings > Bluetooth didn't work?16:45
k1l_does it have bluetooth? does lspci/lsusb see it? is it blocked by rfkill?16:46
xanguaSonikkuAmerica: like i said, my bluetooth dongle was recognized but it was just the default indicator not showing up; installed blueman and it showed blueman's indicator16:47
xanguaanyways i am not the one with a problem here :)16:47
SonikkuAmericaxangua: I know, I was just a little quizzical as to why you suggested to theperfectpunk that installing blueman was the only way a BT indicator would show up.16:48
XtremeWizHi everyone. I am trying to delete the contents of a directory using "rm -rf directory_name" but I am getting "Permission Denied" error. Does this have anything to do with CHMOD permissions of the folder(s) inside directory_name?16:49
pipopopoXtremeWiz: more ownership problems there16:50
XtremeWizpipopopo: didn't get you.16:50
himsinhi, whenever I connect android phone in ubuntu 12.04 it becomes very slow and almost unresponsive but it works fine in windows. Any ideas why this is happening?16:51
anantno body is replying ? :(16:52
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pipopopoXtremeWiz: chown16:52
escottXtremeWiz, more likely the owner of the folder (chown)16:52
tgm4883!ask | anant16:52
ubottuanant: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:52
ananti m new in ubuntu ... can u help me16:52
pipopopoXtremeWiz: do ls -l and see if the ownership is ok16:52
himsinI also tried with other android phones and same results16:52
anantmy printer is not working on ubuntu :(16:53
philinuxanant: just tell us your problem16:53
anantwhen i connect it to usb16:53
philinuxanant: make and model would help16:53
anantit adds automatically the printer16:54
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anantbut when i give command to print16:54
anantit says printing fail16:54
anantprinter model is lbp290016:54
philinuxanant: make and model would help16:54
anantCanon lbp 290016:54
XtremeWizpipopopo: yeah, I made the folder chmod 777 and it worked. Thank you.16:55
tgm4883anant, http://askubuntu.com/questions/145769/how-do-i-get-a-canon-lbp-2900-printer-working16:55
pipopopoXtremeWiz: np16:55
escotthimsin, the phone or the computer? and is this android 4.0+ or <4.016:56
anantHow can i configure my adnroid phone with ubuntu ?16:57
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ikoniawhat ???16:57
anantany pc suite for android phone in linux ?16:57
ikoniaanant: what are you talking about16:57
ikoniaanant: what do you actually want to do16:57
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himsinescott, ics16:58
himsinescott, the pohne16:58
jephgood evening i would like to ask help. actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but i get crashed most of the time so i think that it may be the incompatible packet i might have installed .i would like to uninstalled it and and reinstall it again i would like to keep some of appliation i have  i would like to ask if there is a way of backup apps or even be aware of all application install so that i can install them again17:00
escotthimsin, maybe more ptp requests are being made than the phone can handle17:01
jephgood evening i would like to ask help. actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but i get crashed most of the time so i think that it may be the incompatible packet i might have installed .i would like to uninstalled it and and reinstall it again i would like to keep some of appliation i have  i would like to ask if there is a way of backup apps or even be aware of all application install so that i can install them again17:02
escott!clone | jeph17:03
ubottujeph: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate17:03
d8bhattaHow to connect ubuntu with tp-link router?17:05
d8bhattaany idea guys?17:05
ikoniad8bhatta: it's just a standard wireless router isn't it ?17:06
Questhow to delete all files in a folder and its subfolders that match this pattern *_1.* ?17:06
d8bhattaikonia:  yes its wireless router17:06
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escottQuest, find . -name '*_1.*' -delete17:07
ikoniad8bhatta: there are many notes on how to connect to wireless router, including the official guide on https://help.ubuntu.com17:07
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Questescott any other way?17:08
escottQuest, sure17:08
BollsaqIs the netbook-remix interface still available? I wanna try it on a regular laptop.17:08
k1l_Bollsaq: no17:09
technojabberI just download Linux lite set it to boot from the live DVD an it ask for a password I put one in but will not accept17:09
BollsaqI think it would be nice, better than Unity.17:10
k1l_Bollsaq: it was back in the 11.04 days and that is end-of-life now17:10
Questescott like?17:10
k1l_Bollsaq: unity runs very well on my samsung nc10 netbook17:10
Bollsaqk1l_: Easypeasy is still in development, so was wondering if that desktop interface had a PPA or something.17:10
escottQuest, you could write a c program to do it17:10
Questescott no, just linux and windows terminals17:11
k1l_Bollsaq: "still in development" = last release was in april 2010. i wouldnt count on that17:11
escottQuest, im not sure why you would want another way to do it17:11
Questescott ok17:12
Bollsaqk1l_: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=easypeasy it says active.17:12
k1l_Bollsaq: that doesnt change anything of the facts i mentioned17:13
VulcanRidrGot a minor problem. I need a newer version of torque than is in the repos for precise, so, for the first time in 10 years or so, I am attempting to roll a deb. It's erroring out just before creation of the debs. Is there somewhere (pastebin?) that I can stick the errors and can someone walk me through what I'm missing?17:14
Bollsaqk1l_: Oh I thought active meant still supported, must've misunderstood17:14
HaliteHow do I create a new directory in the terminal17:15
llutzHalite: mkdir directory17:15
MonkeyDustHalite  mkdir17:15
pringlescanI'm getting a new server for work and I have to run several VMs on it… I'll need to run Windows, Linux and possibly OSX. Should I spring for VMWare, use virtualbox, or something else?17:16
VulcanRidrpringlescan: What about kvm?17:17
MonkeyDustpringlescan  virtualbox is in the ubuntu repos and free, vmware isnt17:17
theperfectpunkis it possible to set a bin file to execute at startup?17:17
liquidmetalAny recommendations for some video editing software for ubuntu? I know of blender - but anything else?17:18
xangualiquidmetal: as far as i know belnder is a 3d modeling program, not a video editor17:19
liquidmetalxangua: it has video editing functionality as well! It even has compositing!17:20
sotirishello guys17:20
sotirisplease i need help with sslstrip runiing on ubuntu17:21
jangoleri can't join to any channel, why?!17:22
Picijangoler: you're here.17:22
MonkeyDust!info sslstrip17:22
jangoleryeah i know17:22
ubottusslstrip (source: sslstrip): SSL/TLS man-in-the-middle attack tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (quantal), package size 12 kB, installed size 140 kB17:22
Picijangoler: if you're having issues with other channels, you'll need to ask in #freenode17:22
jangolerbut i wanna join to #ikariam.ir17:22
pringlescanIt seems like VMware fairs better in benchmarks, but the license cost is comparable to a CPU upgrade that would negate the benefits17:22
escottpringlescan, you could also use xen or kvm. what you use is much more of a question of management time and capabilities than cost as you are realizing17:23
BollsaqI suddenly miss netbook-remix17:24
VulcanRidrCan anyone help me with my deb building problem? The end of the build is at http://pastebin.com/3BjG1x1e17:27
spizzoI've just updated all packages on my system and java -version still shows I'm on 1.6 even after installing openjdk 7 packages. How do I get to java version 1.7?17:28
dydzEz2If i installed a program like netbeans, where would i find it in the file system17:29
GuidoPallemansdydzEz2: probably /usr/bin17:29
dydzEz2check that, if not -- where else? or how do i found out the name17:30
dydzEz2because i installed something from the software center17:30
dydzEz2and if i type the name in the terminal it doesnt launch17:30
pringlescanescott, mostly it would be for me to set up a couple of VMs, but I'm at an edu institution and I'd like to use something like zen or openvz to teach them basic server admin and have their own system to use17:30
dydzEz2so im figured its named something else17:30
pringlescanhas anyone ever set something up to scale down CPU clockspeed when the system is on a UPS?17:31
jephi got another problem.i have install ubuntu 10.04 in my sumsung laptop  and i am missing wireless drivers can some tell me how to get them17:32
craigbass1976Ok, I'm trying to install on a Vista machine.  I don't see options to resize partitions during the install, and gparted won't let me either.  The up down arrows are greyed out, nor can I drag the arrows when the partition in question is highlighted.17:32
escottpringlescan, so openvz is containers and not a real VM17:33
Pici!floodbots | sotiris17:33
ubottusotiris: FloodBot1,2,3, and 4 are all bots, please direct your questions to the channel.17:33
pringlescanescott, I do know that, but I don't think they need to play with Kernels, I was thinking of having a large VM running that, I realize that's not very efficient, but unless I can get AWS to give them free usage tier w/o a credit card, that's my best option17:34
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escottpringlescan, re UPS wouldn't make that much of a difference, you might be able to reduce power by 30% with a big hit on efficiency. the end result may be greater power consumption overall17:34
jephi got another problem.i have install ubuntu 10.04 in my sumsung laptop  and i am missing wireless drivers can some tell me how to get them please?17:34
pringlescanjeph, do you know the model number of your wireless card?17:34
jephlet me check17:34
craigbass1976Is there a way to resize with fdisk?17:35
theperfectpunkhow to run scripts at bootup?17:35
pringlescanescott, I'm just concerned about running my main db and app server in a VM, so I was thinking of running it on the host17:35
zgrhey guys I have strange problem with blanks cd-rs i can't write any, on two different pcs running ubuntu (12.04 and 12.40). When I insert blank cdr it spins and spins...17:35
theperfectpunki finally got the bluetooth to work17:36
pringlescanzgr, try a different brand of media, check the manufacturer of the optical drives, see if they are the same, google for the combination of media brand and manufacturer and see if there's anyone else having that problem17:36
craigbass1976zgr, is this new?  I've run across some bunk batches of blanks.  I think the last was Staples brand.17:36
agu10^hi people!17:37
SilverOrangeHey! I have a quick question. I have a mid range video card in a server, using ubuntu server. Do I need to install the drivers for it? Does it provide any benifit at all?17:37
g16craigbass1976: fdisk resizes the partitions, but you should first resize the filesystem with the appropriate tool. If Vista uses ntfs, then check for ntfsresize.17:37
yashiive got some serious noise issues with my mic... deinstalled pulse so far. tried everything in alsamixer -v=all. any ideas?17:37
g16Or better, do the resize from within Vista and using Vista's native tool.17:37
jeph<pringlescan> this is : AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter17:38
sideeffecttaking in to account that till now noone as given in apropriate channel an ansmer to this. and probably it may affect ubuntu users very well too: feel free to help :D :D --> http://www.forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=28876717:38
jeph<pringlescan> this is : AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter17:38
SilverOrangeHey! I have a quick question. I have a mid range video card in a server, using ubuntu server. Do I need to install the drivers for it? Does it provide any benifit at all? or should I just take it out.17:39
theperfectpunkescott how to run some commands at bootup?17:39
pringlescanjeph, did you try googling that network card and the version of ubuntu?17:40
escotttheperfectpunk, what commands do you want to run17:40
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theperfectpunksudo insmod rtbth.ko17:41
zgrpringlescan craigbass1976 just tried on laptop with windows cdrs are detected properly, and while spinning it on ubuntu ps aux shows only udev accessing dev/sr017:41
theperfectpunksudo mknod /dev/rtbth c 192 017:41
theperfectpunkand finally17:41
escotttheperfectpunk, you just list modules you want to run in /etc/modules17:41
MonkeyDusttheperfectpunk  is this link useful http://superuser.com/questions/471253/ubuntu-how-to-run-a-terminal-command-on-boot17:41
pringlescanzgr, I haven't tried burning in linux in ages, I used to work in a print shop where we burned 1,000s a month and I just know to check the top and the bottom of the spindle :-( and switch brands17:42
escotttheperfectpunk, you should not have to make device nodes, udev should be doing that. perhaps you can update its rules17:42
escotttheperfectpunk, no idea what the final binary does...17:42
jephi read that i have to install windows driver  but i failed to locate the file  window.inf that i had to find inside it the driver i need17:42
theperfectpunkit enables bluetooth17:42
jephso i you know how i can find that file may be it can help17:42
theperfectpunki want it to run automatically each time the system boots up17:42
VulcanRidris there a better channel to ask about deb build questions?17:43
escotttheperfectpunk, /etc/rc.local as a last ditch location. all paths should be full paths in that17:43
theperfectpunkthe commands use two files17:44
theperfectpunkwhere should i put the two files?17:44
theperfectpunkactually not just two files i think it uses the whole folder17:44
escott!fhs | theperfectpunk17:45
ubottutheperfectpunk: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier17:45
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sarthorHi, I have linux installed 14. how to install USB 4610 SureMark Printer on Linux. My linuxt can see the printer in tail -f /var/log/syslog but the printer is not listed in the printers area. Help please17:47
theperfectpunkescott can i pm you?17:48
theperfectpunki am at the verge of getting it to work completely17:48
escotttheperfectpunk, i have not been following everything you have done. i honestly don't know why you keep singling me out17:48
theperfectpunki can't read all that now17:49
theperfectpunkit's 11:19PM here17:49
unheedingsarthor: what do you mean linux installed 14?  are you using Linux Mint?17:49
theperfectpunkcould you explain how will it access the files required>17:49
sarthormint 1417:50
theperfectpunkescott i have worked really hard to get so close17:50
unheedingyou should ask in the mint support channel, I don't know if it is the same as ubuntu17:50
theperfectpunkescott, it's been nearly 5 hours figuring this out17:50
k1l_!mint | sarthor17:50
ubottusarthor: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:50
theperfectpunkand i'm not singling out'17:51
sarthorI have ubuntu installed too. I am can plug the usb cable to 12.10 desktop.17:51
theperfectpunki just don;t understand you17:51
theperfectpunkbcoz m not a linux genius17:51
sarthorand same on ubuntul unheeding17:51
theperfectpunkescott can u please tell me how it will access those files?17:52
theperfectpunki have to run three commands :17:52
theperfectpunka) “sudo modprobe bluetooth" to make sure that BlueZ related service17:53
OerHekstheperfectpunk, MonkeyDust gave you a url with an answer17:53
theperfectpunkb) “sudo insmod rtbth.ko”17:53
theperfectpunkc) “sudo mknod /dev/rtbth c 192 017:53
FloodBot1theperfectpunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:53
theperfectpunkand ./rtbt.bin17:53
escotttheperfectpunk, if you dont understand me why do you keep asking? im happy to answer but i havent been following so its hard for me to get context17:53
EstrobedaIs this only ubuntu and support or can i ask something diffrent?17:53
HaliteWhat is the command to initate a Kernel BugCheck17:53
theperfectpunkok let's start from the beginning17:53
escotttheperfectpunk, modules are usually loaded through /etc/modules where you just list the module you want to load17:53
theperfectpunkby modules you mean binary files?17:54
escotttheperfectpunk, also mixing modprobe and insmod is really strange. they do the same thing. you would modprobe both. or more simply list both in /etc/modules17:54
escotttheperfectpunk, as for mknod udev is responsible for /dev so you would usually make a rule in /etc/udev.d/rules for your device17:55
yourimym1hello is there nvidia-ubuntu support chanel17:55
theperfectpunkwhat will the rule do?17:55
escotttheperfectpunk, this final ./rtbt.bin.... since I don't know what it does i can only suggest that you put it in /etc/rc.local with a full path to the executable17:55
escotttheperfectpunk, the udev rule would run the mknod file on the appropriate event. i dont know much about udev so i can't really advise you on that.17:56
escotttheperfectpunk, you can also just dump everything in /etc/rc.local which is ugly but should work17:56
Metalhead1337can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?17:56
theperfectpunkok escott i got the two commands17:57
theperfectpunkhow to implement this sudo insmod rtbth.ko17:57
theperfectpunkit requires the rtbth.ko file17:57
theperfectpunkwhere to copy the rtbth.ko17:57
Metalhead1337can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?17:57
Metalhead1337can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?17:58
escotttheperfectpunk, usually that would just be modprobe rtbth. im not sure why you would be messing with insmod17:59
theperfectpunkescott it's in the guide17:59
theperfectpunkunder module installing'17:59
osmdavehi can someone help me get started. hp g6 intel i5 ubuntu 12.10 install with updates and wifi from cd. boots to purple screen. nomodeset does not fix it17:59
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Lofde_i have installed vino and remmina on a lubuntu box , and i cant vnc to i get connection refused (i tried this after i used my other ubuntu box to connect to it on the same network and was getting a connection refused too) i have it set in vino-preference to share desktop and allow remote control with no password.. anyone have any ideas where i should start to troubleshoot on the lubuntu machine18:00
Metalhead1337can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?18:00
DJonesMetalhead1337: Its not something I've done, but this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html18:01
Metalhead1337will it work in 12.10?18:01
DJonesMetalhead1337: More recent version https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/irc-server.html18:01
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DJonesMetalhead1337: Change the 12.04 in the address to 12.10 thats the latest version18:02
craigbass1976What do we do when checkdisk /f isn't possible on a drive before setting up a dual boot?  Windows won't boot is the problem to begin with.18:02
Metalhead1337DJones: I already did but thanks anyway18:02
An-IP-BreAKDoWNMetalhead1337 if the repo isn't up to date then do this http://inspircd.github.com/wiki/Installation/Source.html18:02
theperfectpunkwhat do i need to enter in /etc/udev.d/rules?18:03
escottcraigbass1976, boot a windows rescue disk and run chkdsk there18:03
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escotttheperfectpunk, i dont know. i cannot tell you how to slay the monsters on the journey, i can only point you down the correct path18:05
theperfectpunkok got it18:05
theperfectpunkone more question escott18:06
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theperfectpunkescott, what does sudo insmod rtbth.ko18:07
theperfectpunkdo? and is it a one time operation only?18:07
escotttheperfectpunk, its a lower level version of "sudo modprobe rtbth" it finds a file named rtbth.ko which is a Kernel Object file (ie computer code) and instructs the kernel to load it into the kernel18:08
escotttheperfectpunk, that gives the kernel some additional capabilities, presumably knowledge of how to control this bluetooth card18:08
theperfectpunkescott, so it needs to be done everytime the system boots or only one time?18:09
escotttheperfectpunk, and it will stay loaded until you either unload it with rmmod or reboot18:09
heywoodRFleming: (back now... sorry that took so long)18:09
heywoodRFleming: anyway, checked router -- it does _not_ have dd-wrt on it, only the stock FW.18:09
theperfectpunkmy question is18:10
theperfectpunkin what directory do the rc.local run?18:10
heywoodRFleming: so to set up VPN that way, i'd need to do a remote FW upgrade (which sounds like an exceedingly bad idea).18:10
escotttheperfectpunk, you should never assume anything about the working directory of an init process. you should always include full paths.18:10
theperfectpunkescott, so instead of18:11
theperfectpunksudo insmod rtbth.ko18:11
theperfectpunki should sudo insmod <path of rtbth.ko>18:12
Kirejihas anyone recently checked out laptops that support ubuntu?  would love to chat, looking at buying one soon - would like to use 12.10 full disk encryption - so a CPU/chipset with AES support, or a drive with FDE support built in a plus18:12
heywoodRFleming: i'll poke around https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN and see if i can get that running from here.18:13
escotttheperfectpunk, (a) init runs as root so you would remove the sudo (b) im back to my original question. why are you using insmod and not modprobe? if modprobe doesnt work then you may have misconfigured/misinstalled the module and it may not be in the correct path for modprobe to pick it up. you should fix that (c) I would list the modules i need in /etc/modules and not be manually issuing modprobe directives anyways18:13
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MonkeyDustKireji  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops18:14
SuperLagI have a desktop with Ubuntu 12.10 on it. I have a drive that's external currently, and I'd like to install Ubuntu on that, is there a way to run an install from an existing install? (i hope that makes sense)18:14
yourimym1ubuntu-nvidia ?18:14
ozzloywhen i try to login from 12.04, the screen goes black for a second, then i'm put right back at the login screen.  how do i troubleshoot that?18:14
heywoodRFleming: BTW, the advice i got in this forum (suggesting ssh as the appropriate tool for my needs) was to prefer ssh to *VNC*, not VPN...18:14
KirejiMonkeyDust: thanks18:14
ozzloyi'm still able to log in in a terminal18:14
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ozzloyi'm logged in through ctrl+alt+f1 right now18:15
escottKireji, just because this is recent and perhaps relevant http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2013/02/12/dear-lazyweb-thinkpads-and-ata-passwords/18:15
dydzEz2whats the closest thing to mspaint on ubuntu, like the easiest image editor ever18:15
dydzEz2gimp is meh18:15
Kirejiescott: reading - thanks18:15
escottdydzEz2, there is kpaint, but i dont think of mspaint as an image editor but rather a bitmap editor18:16
ozzloyi'm guessing something in my graphical login settings is fubared, so it fails and brings me back to the login screen18:16
escott!gksudo | ozzloy18:16
ubottuozzloy: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)18:16
yourimym1does anyone now if there ubuntu-nvidia orc chat ?18:16
g16dydzEz2: pinta, Paint.NET18:16
Kirejiescott: what a nightmare18:16
escottozzloy, you probably didnt follow the above and need to "sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority18:17
MonkeyDust!find paint | dydzEz218:17
ubottudydzEz2: Found: gchempaint, gnome-paint, gpaint, mtpaint, mypaint, mypaint-data, navit-graphics-qt-qpainter, rgbpaint, root-plugin-geom-geompainter, root-plugin-hist-histpainter (and 10 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=paint&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all18:17
Kirejiwhat is Luks?18:17
escottozzloy, so "ctrl-alt-f1" login, run "sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority", then ctrl-alt-f7 back to the login screen18:17
ozzloyescott, i sure don't run graphical applications as root18:17
Kireji"ösoftware uses this (kernel interface). Using dm-crypt (Luks) does this for sure."18:17
ozzloyi'l see if Xauthority is owned by me18:17
dydzEz2man you know whad be a cool program, just a picture of the globe and you can click anywhere on it to test your pring and tracert18:17
ozzloyescott, yep, it's owned by me.  it's chmodded 600.  is that what it should be?18:18
escottozzloy, then its something else18:18
escottozzloy, you can "mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak" you might also try the .compiz folder18:19
ozzloykk.  i'll try those.  thanks for the suggestions!18:19
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yourimym1does anyone now if there ubuntu-nvidia orc chat ?18:20
PraxiI'm having to convince my boss that raid is significantly faster than single drives.  Does anyone have any links to some good easy articles?18:21
ozzloynope, neither of those.  i mv .compiz .compiz.bak.2013-02-1318:21
k1l_yourimym1: ask if its related to ubuntu18:21
ozzloyand .config .config.2013-02-1318:21
xjkx[off] I would like to test something, long story. Anyway, I have a router, the ip is and I have another router with the same IP, what happens if I plug one in the other, and expect the router that was plugged, to offer wifi ? Their same ip has a problem ?18:21
yourimym1k1l / i can't find the right driver for my nvidia18:22
ephesiusxjkx: they would need different ip addresses18:22
ozzloyare there log files i can check?18:22
ozzloywhat log files would be related to graphical login failures?18:23
k1l_yourimym1: which card do you have?18:23
escottPraxi, that would depend on what kind of raid it is. but you can find benchmarks for things like mdadm online18:23
xjkxephesius: I can really change that in the web interface ?18:23
chadams42can someone please help me with some group permission issues18:23
k1l_yourimym1: show the line in "lspci" that mentiones your card please18:23
escottozzloy, /var/log/Xorg.0.log might say something ~/.xsession-errors might be more helpful since X seems to be working18:23
chadams42I'm trying to understand how I setup my groups so that I can securely have multiple people edit websites18:24
yourimym1k1l_ / geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr318:24
ephesiusxjkx: yes you should be able to, what kind of router is the one you're trying to connect to the main router18:24
Osakasa^no mut toi o iha siisti18:24
Osakasa^sorry wrong channel18:24
escottchadams42, add them to the www-data group18:24
xjkxephesius: tp link w8951nd18:25
escottchadams42, you might also want to setgid/setuid on the directory18:25
gmachine_24Greetings. Using partimage to clone a partition to a different hard drive, do I need to have a partition created in advance or will partimage create the partition on the target disk as part of the process. Neither drive has the OS on it.18:25
xjkxephesius: they wont both offer wifi, thats why I hoped I didn't need to change18:25
ozzloyescott, i was just checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log!  yay, i am starting to know where to look.  i'll check xsession-errors18:26
ozzloyx is working, yes.  the graphical login screen shows up fine18:26
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escott!permissions | chadams42 otherwise your question is a bit vague so...18:27
ubottuchadams42 otherwise your question is a bit vague so...: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions18:27
ephesiusxjkx: since thats a modem+router i doubt it will work the way you are thinking18:28
k1l_yourimym1: please show the exact line mentioned in "lspci"18:28
SuperLagIs there a way to initiate an install from a running desktop, that you want to put on an external hard drive? or do you have to reboot and run the installer from media?18:28
xjkxephesius: hmm, ok thanks :)18:29
chadams42in /etc/passwd GID is The primary group ID (stored in /etc/group file) but, in /etc/group GID is "number in your /etc/passwd" this is confusing?18:29
chadams42how do you know which one to change, they ref each other?18:30
yashiim using two displays with different refresh rates (75 and 60hz) on the 75hz tft everythings fine. but playing on the other one is impossible. tearing to the max :x18:31
escottchadams42, you should NEVER directly modify /etc/passwd /etc/groups18:31
escottchadams42, always use the usermod/adduser/useradd tools18:32
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yourimym1hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f18:32
escottyashi, i would think so18:32
yashiescott: any idea how to fix it? vsync syncs to 75hz everywhere ><18:32
k1l_yourimym1: nvidia-current didnt work?18:32
sandeeprin ubuntu 12.10, i want to add a static route so the server is pingable from my laptop18:33
yashiescott: im chekcing if i can force 60hz onto the other one ...but thats kind of stupid imo18:33
yourimym1k1l_, desktop vanish after instaled also18:33
DoWhileGeekI just got a ssd. How do I image my current hdd and put it on there?18:33
yourimym1no side or top bar18:33
sandeepri used route add -net x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x gw x.x.x.x18:34
BluesKajyourimym1, have you checked the "additional drivers" ?18:34
yourimym1yes i've tried almost all of them18:34
sandeeprits not pingable yet18:34
escottDoWhileGeek, i would not do that18:35
sandeeprthe route -n has an entry for eth2 which i want to delete18:35
escottDoWhileGeek, a reinstall or a file level copy is preferable18:35
sandeeprwhat is the correct syntax with route del to be used?18:35
DoWhileGeekescott:  I assume file level copy is copying all the relevent directories?18:35
DoWhileGeekescott: assuming I dont do anything out of the norm with my filesystem, what directories should I copy?18:36
escottDoWhileGeek, yes a "cp -a" is ok but dont do a "dd"18:36
DoWhileGeekescott:  dd?18:36
Kirejihas anyone tried 12.10 on Dell XPS 13?18:36
mehdihey guys i folow instruction here : http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/     now i dont have hotkeys for volume wat should i do?18:36
Duke_PukeHi. Does anybody got the switchable graphics overheating problem in 12.10?18:36
yourimym1hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f18:37
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escottDoWhileGeek, you said "image" which usually indicates a low level copy (bit-for-bit) with a tool like dd/ddrescue/etc18:37
DoWhileGeekescott:  ok, thanks for the tip18:38
yourimym1:) so , does anyone know nvidia tech support room ubuntu !18:39
jtekHi guys, I am having some issues getting ubuntu 12.04 to boot using btrfs anyone have a mind to help me out?18:40
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s9iper1i need to set up a proxy on ubuntu  for youtube any help18:41
escottjtek, what kind of issues?18:41
tworkinon ubuntu 12.04, how would I go about getting a newer verison of nodejs than 0.6.12 that apt-cache shows?18:42
gmachine_24Greetings. Using partimage to clone a partition to a different hard drive, do I need to have a partition created in advance or will partimage create the partition on the target disk as part of the process. Neither drive has the OS on it.18:42
theadmintworkin: Generally, to get a package version newer than provided by Canonical, you search for a PPA, or if that fails, try to install from source18:42
escott!pm | jtek and your problem seems unrelated to btrfs18:46
ubottujtek and your problem seems unrelated to btrfs: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.18:46
s9iper1i need to set up proxy on ubuntu  any body help ??18:46
OerHekstheadmin, could backports provide him with 0.6.19 ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nodejs18:46
g16tworkin: apt-get update18:46
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theadminOerHeks: Oh, backports may work too, forget about those most of the time18:47
jtekescott, my apologies18:47
tworkinthanks all18:47
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jtekI should preface my issue by informing that if installing using ext4 I have no issues whatsoever18:47
MrHacksAnyone know how to get MATE-Desktop installed. The public key exists on the mate download websites but apt-get keeps saying the public key is not available.18:48
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theadminMrHacks: There are detailed instructions on their website for Ubuntu... Just follow them and you'll be fine, if you can't follow the instructions that means you shouldn't be installing third-party software.18:49
theadminMrHacks: For you, specifically, the idea is you're supposed to import the key (apt-key-add)18:49
escottjtek, you might start by sending the output of "sudo parted -l"18:49
Fuzzlesis there a program for ubuntu that allows you to gutmann harddrives?18:50
MrHackstheadmin: Yeah, that's the problem I followed those install instructions (http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download) but it doesn't say anything about "apt-key-add" on it.18:51
MonkeyDust!info wipe | Fuzzles18:51
ubottuFuzzles: wipe (source: wipe): Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.22-1 (quantal), package size 41 kB, installed size 120 kB18:51
escottFuzzles, on most filesystems wipe/shred doesn't work18:53
Fuzzlesanyone know of a program to wipe a hard drive using gutmann method?18:53
Questescott,  $ find -name *_1.* -delete18:53
Questfind: paths must precede expression: text_1.txt.odt18:53
Fuzzlesescott, what you mean?18:53
chadams42why when I "sudo usermod -G developer developer; groups developer" it outputs "developer : chadams developer"18:53
escottFuzzles, if you need to destroy the entire drive contents a simple cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdX will do18:53
chadams42where did "chadams" come from?18:53
escottchadams42, -a -G always -a18:54
* MrHacks hopes someone else can explain the apt-key-add thing for mate-deskop without the smug attitude18:54
Questescott,  whats wrong18:54
MonkeyDustFuzzles  if what escott says about wipe is right: secure-delete uses the gutmann method18:54
chadams42-a is append, and I want to reset the groups on that account. besides adding -a does;t change anything18:55
escottQuest, "*" got expanded by the shell. so thats not what you want18:55
Questescott,  meaning?18:55
GoranekHey guys, cna someone please hell me with alsamixer & sound? I spend 2 hours trying to make sound work..but no success.. :/ I mean i can make it work on Archlinux..but can't force it to work on Ubuntu Minimal18:56
genii-aroundFuzzles: I think nwipe might have an option for the 35 pass Guttman wipe18:56
MoPac[GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butlocation doesn't appear in /hom/****/.gvfs18:56
Goranek"aplay -l" shows 2 devices ( hda ati sb analog , ati hdmi), i've added my user to group audio18:56
Goranekpleasee :(18:56
yashihow do i force one of my displays to 60hz? xrandr lists its compatible if i type xrandr. but im not sure what the name of the display is18:56
MoPacI'm using nemo as default file manager in case that matters18:57
theadminMrHacks: Not directly, no, but "sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring" will give you the key after the repo has been added and apt-get update ran.18:57
escottQuest, meaning if you had file that matched the expression in the working directory then what got executed was "find -name text_1.txt.odt -delete" and not find -name *_1.* -delete18:57
chadams42sudo usermod -a -G developer developer; groups developer still outputs "chadams"18:57
ovejanegrahey! I am trying to backup my archives in order to reinstall ubuntu. i am running the live cd now. but i cannot transfer the files because it says i dont have permission to read the folder. please help!18:57
escottQuest, you want globbing to happen in find not in bash18:57
Questquestion:  how can i save the output of the terminal to a text file ? (i observe scroll has a limit)18:57
escottQuest, command > output.txt18:58
escottchadams42, sorry you are trying to remove chadams from developer18:58
MrHacksThat's the thing, theadmin, I added the repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and got the GPG error message saying the key was not available.18:58
Questescott,  so why it didnt deleted text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*18:58
MrHacksapt-get update didn't like it18:58
jrtappersIs it possible to make apps for ubuntu in java, and if so what limitations are caused by using it?18:59
theadminMrHacks: Right, it won't automatically become available, you need to "apt-get install mate-archive-keyring". It will complain about the package being unauthenticated blah blah, tell it to install anyway, done18:59
chadams42echinos_: yea18:59
theadminMrHacks: Might need to re-run apt-get update after getting the keyring18:59
chadams42escott: yea I'm trying to remove "chadams" from developer19:00
Fuzzlesgenii-around, can you get ir from software centre?19:00
escottchadams42, so a bit about group membership19:00
ovejanegrahey! I am trying to backup my archives in order to reinstall ubuntu. i am running the live cd now. but i cannot transfer the files because it says i dont have permission to read the folder. please help!19:00
escottchadams42, its set at login for the session, so running "groups myself" will output my current active group permissions which may not match what i have in /etc/groups19:00
escottchadams42, so if you are logged in as developer right now you need to logout first19:01
chadams42I'm logged in as chadams19:01
Fuzzlesovejanegra, open terminal and put sudo nautilus to gain permission19:01
Questescott,  i just recovered files form formated disk. now i have "afile.ext" and a duplicate "afile_1.ext" too.  iam getting rid of duplicates but i endangeour that i might not delete important files with that wild card19:02
escottchadams42, and to be clear "developer" is another username which you had previously added to the developer user membership in the chadams group, and you want to undo that19:02
MrHacksOK. sorry for being stupid. It's just the dumbest thing for someone to set up a repo like that. I19:02
chadams42escott: yea19:02
chadams42trying to fix my groups19:03
genii-aroundFuzzles: Yes.19:03
escottQuest, if they are true duplicate there are dedup tools which will use checksums to identify actual duplicates19:03
Fuzzlesgenii-around, whats the program called?19:03
chadams42escott: my groups are chadams sudo www-data19:03
MrHacksI'll chew out the guys at #mate later19:03
genii-aroundFuzzles: "nwipe"19:03
chadams42I'm trying to get this up so that developers have access to the www folder and can all edit19:03
Fuzzlesgenii-around, cant find anything under nwiope19:03
Fuzzlesgenii-around, nwipe19:03
chadams42and I can control their access19:03
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genii-around!info nwipe quantal19:04
ubottuPackage nwipe does not exist in quantal19:04
Questescott,  what do dedup tools do? compare the bytes?19:04
genii-aroundFuzzles: Apologies, it is in my 13.04 in the universe repository, but i guess now that it was only just added19:05
Questescott,  so why it didnt deleted text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*19:05
Fuzzlesgenii-around, so it will come in 13.04?19:05
escottchadams42, that is weird "sudo usermod -G developer developer" should mean that the "developer" user has only one group namely "developer"19:05
genii-around!info nwipe raring19:05
chadams42escott: yea this is why I think I may need to edit the file manually ugh19:06
ubottunwipe (source: nwipe): Utility to securely erase disks. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.12-1 (raring), package size 34 kB, installed size 113 kB19:06
genii-aroundFuzzles: Yes.19:06
escottQuest, its find /path/to/start/in -name *pattern* -action19:06
simpson_Can anyone help me with a cluster?19:06
escottQuest, so find . -name ...19:06
escottQuest, but if you have true duplicates then a dedup tool would be safer19:06
escottchadams42, does usermod not give an error?19:07
chadams42escott: no19:07
escottchadams42, messing with those files could be the cause of the problems because you might have some locking issues19:07
chadams42escott: no error19:07
Questescott,  yes. but thats what i was saying19:07
Questescott,   text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*19:07
ovejanegraFuzzles, I did that and it worked. thank you! but then i got some weird messages in the terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1645693/ Can anyone tell me what it means?19:07
escottchadams42, grep chadams /etc/group19:08
escottQuest, try '*_1\.*' then19:08
Questit says $ find -name *_1.* -delete19:08
Quest<Quest> find: paths must precede expression: text_1.txt.odt19:08
chadams42ugh, sorry all, probably should have PM'ed that19:08
Questescott,   text_1.txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*19:08
MoPac[GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butlocation doesn't appear in /hom/****/.gvfs19:08
escottQuest, find <you need a path here> <you need a quote here>*_1<this might need to be \. not just .>*<another quote here> -delete19:09
Questescott,  is it taking . as a regular expression?19:09
Fuzzlesovejanegra, im not sure when i use that to move files it gives me errors purely because i close the terminal did you do that or close the program when your done?19:09
escottQuest, find <you need a path here> -name <you need a quote here>*_1<this might need to be \. not just .>*<another quote here> -delete19:09
escottchadams42, then chadams42 is not in developer. grep developer /etc/group19:10
LiquidDemocracyIs there a way to extract .vce files on Ubuntu?19:10
ovejanegrai dont think so19:10
Questescott,  i am already in that directory. so path is not needed. is it?19:10
chadams42escott: developer:x:1003:www-data,developer19:10
escottQuest, yes it is needed. thats what find keeps telling you19:11
ovejanegramaybe its because my hdd is flawed19:11
Fuzzlesovejanegra, i wouldnt worry tbh19:11
yourimym1hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f19:11
escottchadams42, and groups developer doesn't print out "www-data developer"19:11
escottchadams42, sorry got that backwards.19:11
chadams42escott: it prints "developer : chadams developer"19:11
escottchadams42, looks ok. groups seems to be confused19:12
escottchadams42, or groups is somehow out of sync with /etc/groups19:12
Questescott,  /media/work/test$ find -name '*_1.*' -ls            is ok?19:12
escottchadams42, because www-data and developer are the only users in developer group19:12
escottQuest, NO19:12
sandeepri get a SIOCADDRT: No such process while adding a static route via the route add -net command, googled around and am not finding defintive way to add the route19:13
yashihow do i force one of my displays to 60hz? xrandr lists its compatible if i type xrandr. but im not sure what the name of the display is19:13
chadams42escott: I was thinking to remove all groups, then add developer to www-data19:13
sandeeprany one can please help?19:13
escottQuest, <find . -name '*_1.*'>  or <find . -name '*_1\.*'> i'm not sure which one19:13
Questhow about $ find /media/work/test -name '*_1.*' -ls19:13
escottQuest, thats ok19:13
chadams42escott: so developers can edit the web files under /www19:13
escottchadams42, you can't add groups to groups19:13
chadams42developer is a user19:14
escottchadams42, i think you are confused by the fact that on ubuntu many users have a group of the same name, but its not a recursive structure19:14
chadams42escott: yea that is cinfusing19:14
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escottchadams42, I'm going to start appending a "U" to every user and a "G" to every group. this is not how it appears in the system though19:14
escottchadams42, suppose that chadamsU is a member of chadamsG and developerG19:15
escottchadams42, further suppose that developerU is a member of www-dataG19:15
escottchadams42, suppose a file is owned by www-dataU:www-dataG. then members of www-dataG can edit that file19:16
unknownFreqHello there. Anyone familiar with the PHC cup undervolt module?19:16
unknownFreqcup = cpu19:16
escottchadams42, those individuals include: www-dataU and developerU, but does not (and cannot) include developerG because groups cannot be members of groups19:16
escottchadams42, so chadamsU who is a member of developerG is unaffected by the membership of developerU in www-dataG19:17
chadams42escott: so I would need to www-dataG to chadamsU to allow chadamsU to edit the files19:17
escottchadams42, yes "sudo usermod -a -G www-dataG chadamsU" (and of course removing U/G in the actual command)19:18
ozzloyescott, yay, it's fixed!19:18
escottozzloy, cant remember what it was but good!19:18
yourimym1hi , is any one familiar with nvidia driver issues ?19:20
DoWhileGeekI like the sleek as phuck design of macbook, does it play nice with ubuntu?19:20
ozzloyescott, logging in to my account graphically.  it was my .profile.  had a typo19:20
DoWhileGeekmacbook pro/air19:20
escott!language | DoWhileGeek19:20
ubottuDoWhileGeek: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:20
DoWhileGeekescott: I have no idea what your talking about19:21
krilkovCan someone help please? I lost in lubuntu, the win equivilant of a task bar, how do I get it back?19:21
Questescott,  thanks19:21
Questescott,  what do dedup tools do precisly, compare bytes?19:22
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escottDoWhileGeek, "easy as ph..."19:24
escottQuest, essentially19:25
escottQuest, there was a good one, if i can find it again19:25
DoWhileGeekescott: isnt even a word dude19:25
Questescott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicatis19:25
escott!info fslint | Quest19:25
ubottuQuest: fslint (source: fslint): Utility collection to find and fix common errors in file storage. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.42-2 (quantal), package size 125 kB, installed size 746 kB19:25
escottDoWhileGeek, thats true of most curse words19:26
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:26
jtek-liveescott, here is that output, sorry for the delay:19:26
jtek-liveluninux@LuninuXOS:~$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M080 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt  Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  500MB   499MB                         bios_grub  2      500MB   1000MB  500MB   ext2  3      1000MB  3048MB  2048MB  linux-swap(v1)  4      3048MB  80.0GB  77.0GB  btrfs   Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised d19:26
Questescott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicates*19:26
idodeisuke!info moo19:26
ubottuPackage moo does not exist in quantal19:26
chadams42escott: what were those commands again so new files get right group permissions in folders19:26
Questescott,  so fslint does that?19:26
escott!paste | jtek-live19:26
ubottujtek-live: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:26
escottchadams42, you want to setgid on the folder(s) and possibly setuid as well19:27
Oneillso, my hdd were failing and tried to replace them (raid 1 setup), i replaced one drive and it synced properly, then i tried to replace the other one (expecting the new one already had the proper mirror) but i only get a blinking cursos when i try to boot... any ideias?19:27
escottchadams42, only on folders though. not on files19:27
escottOneill, you probably never installed the bootloader on the other drive19:28
jtek-live 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14luninux@LuninuXOS:~$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M080 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt  Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  500MB   499MB                         bios_grub  2      500MB   1000MB  500MB   ext2  3      1000MB  3048MB  2048MB  linux-swap(v1)  4      3048MB  80.0GB  77.0G19:28
jtek-liveI feel like a newb19:28
escottjtek-live, not going to read that formated like that. paste.ubuntu.com19:28
jtek-livepastebin automatically pastes the content in?19:28
escottjtek-live, no you have to paste it to the website and then send us the link19:28
Oneillescott, probably not...19:29
escott!info pastebinit | jtek-live19:29
ubottujtek-live: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3-2ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 15 kB, installed size 172 kB19:29
Oneilltrying to boot from ubuntu livecd19:29
escott!grub | Oneill you can just follow the "lost grub after installing windows" instructions19:29
ubottuOneill you can just follow the "lost grub after installing windows" instructions: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:29
Oneillwill ry that19:29
jtek-liveI'm sorry for needing the hand holding there19:29
SuperLagjtek-live: everyone starts somewhere. If you keep this up, one day you will help in answering the questions. :)19:30
Questescott,  busy?19:30
root___Hienosti vaihtuu porukka19:30
Oneillescott, still works for ubuntu server right?19:30
escottQuest, fslint is just a nice gui to deal with various things that happen with files. dedup is one of the tools19:31
technojabberCan i install 2 Linux distros on a computer running xp 735MB of ram19:31
Questescott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicates*19:31
escottQuest, but it is file level dedup so they have to be exactly identical19:31
Questescott, identical is by size or by name?19:31
escottQuest, in contents, the name is not a part of the file19:32
Questescott,  what do you mean by file level? it does not entertains folders?19:32
Questescott, ok19:32
escottQuest, there is block level dedup which can deal with a file which is a copy of the other but maybe with some additional stuff added at the end.19:33
kraftmankien esta por ahi19:34
Pici!es | kraftman19:34
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Questescott,  i see19:34
kraftmanestoy haciendo pruebas19:35
kraftmanpara irc19:35
scotta3234I'm installing 12.10 on a laptop with two drives. Installer wont create the / partition larger than 8587MB. Any ideas?19:35
scotta3234on a 32 gig SSD drive19:35
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escottscotta3234, what is the output of "sudo parted -l"19:36
escott!paste | scotta323419:36
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jtek-liveThanks SuperLag19:37
scotta3234escott, can't run it right now as I'm doing the install. I can confirm that gparted was showing the full size as I deleted all partitions.19:37
scotta3234escott, so it was just a unformatted 28gig partition (according to gparted) on the SSD where I was trying to install19:39
jtek-liveescott, I'm noticing that the bios_grup partition required for btrfs does not have the boot flag set. I assume setting this flag will not hurt anything?19:39
Questescott,  by the way, there can be a possiblity that two files are not duplicates but have exactly the same size in exact bits?19:40
samarneed help?19:41
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:41
jtek-liveok, I am going to try setting that flag and reboot off the live system here. I'll chat with you all from jtek thanks!19:43
jtekCorrection, I left the bios_grub flag on that partition and enabled the boot flag on /boot19:45
PoolShark_so I'm having a library problem or something19:47
TheLordOfTimePoolShark_, you may want ##programming19:47
escottjtek, bootable flags seldom matter for most bioses19:48
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escottjtek, also bios_grub is the bootable partition not /boot19:48
Questthere can be a possiblity that two files are not duplicates but have exactly the same size in exact bits/bytes? so how do checksum apps point duplicates19:48
escottQuest, the whole point of dedup is if you have two copies of the same contents under two different names19:49
PoolShark_TheLordOfTime: this problem is specific to Ubuntu it seems... the linked example works fine on Debian, Slack, and even older versions of Ubuntu... it's an issue with 12.04, not a programming issue in general19:50
escottQuest, dedups use checksums to speed up the identification of possible duplicates and then do a time consuming bit for bit comparison after candidates have been identified19:50
heywoodhi all. installed fail2ban, sshguard, and denyhosts on a server running ssh. if i have /etc/sshguard/whitelist and /var/lib/denyhosts/allowed-hosts set up correctly, is there any reason to have sshd: ALL: ALLOW in hosts.allow?19:50
jtekescott, interesting, so even though the flag says grub_bios that technically means its bootable? Not sure why I cant get it to boot... The first install I did, I only had the grub_bios partition and the / partition. The second go I did as previously stated but also included /boot as a separate partition. Obviously the change I just made to add /boot as bootable made no significant difference.19:50
daniearescott, just do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M19:50
daniearwill fix any issue u have19:50
escottjtek, bootable is a meaningless flag. some bioses care and will only allow the mbr bootloader to access within the flagged bootable partitions19:51
Questescott,  so every file has a checksum?19:51
jtekescott, got it19:51
Questescott,  what is checksum19:51
escottjtek, such a bios would see grub stage 1 in the mbr accessing the grub_bios partition and would demand that grub_bios be bootable19:51
daniearQuest, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M19:51
IdleOnethought so19:52
TheLordOfTimePoolShark_, mind if i borrow your code and test on a 12.04 system?19:52
Questdaniear whats that19:52
PoolShark_TheLordOfTime: sure, that'd be great. That'll tell me if it's just my particualar instance of 12.0419:52
genii-around!danger | Quest19:52
ubottuQuest: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!19:52
IdleOneQuest: do not run that command19:53
heywoodQuest: that's a bot or some idiot trying to get you to trash one of your hard drive partitions.19:53
escottQuest, its computed from the contents. a small change in the contents will cause a large change in the output. the checksum length is usually a fixed length 40characters and up to some reasonably long length19:53
escottQuest, try it with md5sum or sha1sum to get a feel for it19:53
QuestIdleOne,  genii-around  what it will do19:54
heywoodQuest: it will overwrite a good chunk of your hard drive with random data.19:54
IdleOneQuest: it will format your hard drive and leave it blank, essentially putting you in a creak without a paddle19:54
Questescott,  i see19:54
genii-aroundQuest: It will erase your hard drive19:54
Questescott,  so every file has a checksum present?19:54
IdleOneactually heywood's description is more accurate, same outcome though.19:55
QuestIdleOne,  heywood  any no chances of recovery?19:55
escottQuest, there are many different checksums. it has to be computed though19:55
IdleOneQuest: correct19:55
Questescott,  so checksum has to be manuly created. every file does not has it already?19:56
jtekescott, the bios_grub partition does not have a recognized file system. Just grasping at straws here19:57
heywoodQuest: if you overwrite the main partition of your hard drive (/dev/sda) with random data (that's what /dev/urandom produces), it is essentially impossible to recover.19:57
escottjtek, its not a filesystem19:57
escottjtek, on msdos/mbr partitioned disks there is some unused space after the mbr but before the first partition19:57
chriscalipi am out of ideas with this one.. on /etc/hosts i added a ip and domain pair... i can reach the ip. but i am still not able to reach the domain.. even though on ping i see  :    ping  domain.com (ip.xxx.x.x)19:57
escottjtek, grub uses that space for some data it needs to be able to start19:57
escottjtek, said space does not exist on a gpt disk. so grub needs a small partition on which to dump that code19:58
TheLordOfTimePoolShark_, i can replicate the problem but i can't find a solution, but the library its supposed to be in does "exist", perhaps its a bug in 12.04 (i'm looking)19:59
jtekEscott, correct, the mbr space has no discernable filesystem in windows, however when installing with btrfs as the partition type the partition in ubiquity informed that I had to create a bios_grub partition of 200-500MB. When creating the partition that file system was selectable. I had assumed parted would list this as a unique file system. From the sounds if it, this is really just unallocated space used for the bootloader. If thats t20:01
escottjtek, thats ridiculously large 1MB is sufficient for grub_bios20:02
jtekEscott, hahahaha nice.... I will reinstall with 1MB and / as btrfs with no separate /boot partition. Thanks for all the information.20:03
escottjtek, no20:03
escottjtek, you might still need a /boot. thats another matter entirely20:03
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escottjtek, grub_bios is there because grub needs space after the mbr which is not present on a gpt disk20:03
escottjtek, /boot is there in case grub cant find the kernel and initramfs on the btrfs partition20:04
escottjtek, if your grub version does not support btrfs then you need an ext-series /boot for grub to be able to start the kernel20:04
each1I could use some help with an installation issue.  brand new asus laptop, nvidia geforce 670m, booting a livecd or liveusb, it displays the ubuntu splash screen but apparently can't start X and drops me at a console prompt.  this is true for both 12.10 and 12.04.  I wasn't expecting to get full performance out of nvidia without updating the driver after install, but I can't even get vga-level graphics at this point and I don't know of a way to do a desktop instal20:05
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jtekEscott, I did read that as of 12.04 (I think) the ext2 /boot was no longer required and grub should be able to read from btrfs. Also, if I reformat the drive in MBR format (only 80GB don't really need to go GPT) that should eliminate the need for grub_bios space?20:06
jtekescott, or am I way off?20:06
escottjtek, yes if you have msdos partition you would not need a grub_bios. but that raises the question why did you have gpt partition in the first place?20:07
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jtekEscott, it was the default selected option when reformatting my drive and I ran with it.20:07
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AndIrc___hello I just installed ubuntu on my alienware 17x 3r and the wireless was working perfect until new updates was installed and I made restart. can someone help me ?20:08
escottjtek, ok. well make sure to use (g)parted to change the partition table type and not fdisk20:08
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scotta3234I am installing ubuntu on a machine with 1 HD and 1 SSD. I want to put / on SSD but the installer wont let me make it larger than 8587MB. Any ideas?20:09
sonOfRaHow would you partition your file system if you had an SSD and a HDD, where the HDD is in a bay slot that sometimes needs to be replaced by a DVD Drive?20:09
jtekescott, for curiosity's sake why not fdisk or cfdisk?20:09
sonOfRaSSD on /, HDD on /data? Or has anyone had a better idea?20:09
escottjtek, fdisk is basically abandonware. it won't delete the gpt structures and will leave you with a messed up table20:10
escottsonOfRa, depends on what your goals are20:10
jtekescott, got it, thanks a ton!20:10
escottsonOfRa, faster boot? faster login? faster loading of grand theft auto? what do you want to be faster?20:11
sonOfRamainly boot, stuff like eclipse, etc20:11
AndIrc___can someone help me pls. when I just installed ubuntu wireless was working perfect and when I installed the updates it stopped working. can someone help me pls20:11
escottsonOfRa, in that case / should be on the SSD20:11
escottsonOfRa, /var. /home can be on the HDD20:11
genii-aroundBasically anything but swap on the SSD unless you want to manually trim it all the time20:12
sonOfRaWell, the problem with /home is, that the HDD would be in a bay, and will sometimes be temporarily replaced by a DVD drive20:12
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escottsonOfRa, then everything needs to be on the SSD20:13
sonOfRaThen I would have no /home anymore. So I thought of mounting the HDD on /var and /data, where /data stores files similar to a homedir20:13
efialtishello,anyone that can offer me some helP?20:13
escottsonOfRa, except for things like your music collection20:13
sonOfRamight just have to figure out which files I will need, and which I won't need. Is that reasonable at all?20:13
sonOfRaI guess the uses of the DVD drive will be limited to burning/ripping music/dvds20:14
genii-aroundefialtis: If you describe first your problem, then perhaps20:14
efialtisi have problem with my wireless20:15
efialtisi bought a new laptop20:15
AndIrc___genii-around can u help me please then. my wireless is not working after I installed the updates20:15
efialtiswhich was with ubuntu preinstalled20:15
efialtisit was 11.04 version so i installed 12.0420:16
efialtiseverything ok except wireless20:16
efialtisany ideas?20:16
genii-aroundAndIrc___ and efialtis ... if you are the same person then please use only one name to talk to me, otherwise it becomes quite confusing20:16
AndIrc___we are nit sam eperson .. lol20:16
efialtishow can i do wit?20:16
AndIrc___I am talking to u from my phobe cause I dont have wireless20:17
genii-aroundefialtis: You did not go 11.04 to 11.10 and then to 12.04, but just installed 12.04 ?20:17
efialtisi just installed 12.0420:17
efialtisfor begging20:17
efialtisto have a clear install20:17
PoolShark_TheLordOfTime: thanks for trying it... I'd have to think that a bug like that would have very high visibility by now20:17
AndIrc___I installed ubuntu fresh 12.04 wireless was working and after updates it stoped working20:17
efialtiswhen i was at 11.04 the wireless was ok but now not..20:17
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Can you connect by wired connection on that machine?20:18
AndIrc___let me tey 1 sex20:18
genii-aroundefialtis: Please put into pastebin results from these commands: sudo lshw -C network     and: lspci -nn20:19
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genii-aroundefialtis: And then to give the URL of the pastebin so I can go see what it says there20:19
efialtisok what is pastebin?20:20
kostkon!paste | efialtis20:20
ubottuefialtis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:20
escottPoolShark_, no issues linking that on debian here20:22
* jhutchins_wk speculates that a pastebin might be a bit difficult if networking is broken.20:22
AndIrc___yes I can connect to the internet with the cable20:23
genii-aroundAndIrc___: OK, so same instructions as I just gave, please20:23
genii-aroundAndIrc___:  eg:  Please put into pastebin results from these commands: sudo lshw -C network and: lspci -nn20:23
AndIrc___I will join the irc from mu pc20:23
AndIrc___cause from the phone I cannot do anuthink20:24
escottPoolShark_, its a little strange that you are casting x to double. i wonder if removing that would make a difference.20:24
efialtisok here is the first command20:24
efialtishope i did that correct20:24
genii-aroundefialtis: Yes :)20:24
genii-aroundefialtis: So in this case it's the second interface, the RALink we are interested in, since it says "unclaimed"20:25
genii-aroundefialtis: I still need now the: lspci -nn      for the vendor:device code for that RALink now20:26
camfryejoin #gphoto20:26
MoPac[GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butloc ation doesn't appear in /home/****/.gvfs20:26
genii-aroundWork, returning 2-3 minutes, apologies20:26
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christophorosu want in pastebin? i am AndIrc___20:27
icerootdoes the 12.04 server iso offer sw-raid during installation?20:29
efialtisgenni around,did you get the last command?20:29
christophorosGenii-around here are the 2 commands :     http://pastebin.com/vxd7zeH2           &                           http://pastebin.com/K7zG0mbW20:30
genii-aroundefialtis, christophoros Reading20:31
genii-aroundefialtis: Preliminary searching shows you may have a more complicated issue. Please stand by.20:33
efialtisok mate,thanks a lot20:33
styolHey there. Does anyone by chance have any recommendations for multiple server code deployment or remote control of a fleet of ubuntu servers? Any input would be great20:34
genii-around!b43 | christophoros   ...Please try this20:35
ubottuchristophoros   ...Please try this: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx20:35
christophoros1 sec20:35
escottstyol, there are lots... ive heard of puppet some20:39
escottstyol, you might try #ubuntu-server to see if they have more experience20:39
genii-aroundefialtis: Odd,  it was working in 11.04 you say?20:39
yourimym1 hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works 20:39
efialtisyes,working good20:39
genii-aroundefialtis: I'm finding you are needing the rt3290sta driver but it seems not to be included yet20:39
styolescott: awesome, thanks a bunch20:39
mehdiguys how can i re-enable pulseaudio bar in the panle?20:40
timoguinDoes anyone know how to disable the "Record your encryption passphrase" notification that pops up after adding a user with an encrypted home directory? The reason I'm asking is because I'm writing a script to add users and record the passphrase automatically. Don't want my users to see the popup.20:40
christophorosgenii-around shall i restart the pc now ?20:40
efialtisso what i have to do now? :S20:40
styolescott: I've checked out puppet for a bit, pretty nutty elaborate but possibly what is needed indeed20:40
escotttimoguin, then how on earth are they to ever decrypt their directory?20:40
genii-aroundchristophoros: Did all the steps successfully complete?20:40
christophorosi think so20:40
timoguinescott: They won't. IT will do it because we'll have the passphrase recorded ourselves.20:41
escotttimoguin, nm. i get it your script will do it for them20:41
genii-aroundefialtis: If you feel brave, you can make the the driver manually: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/wireless-ralink-rt3290-not-working-on-asus20:41
escotttimoguin, i thought you were running the script on their behalf or something20:41
genii-aroundchristophoros: Then I would say yes :)20:41
genii-aroundefialtis: ( the instructions would be the same for 12.04 and 12.10 )20:41
christophorosno need to restart20:42
christophorosits fixed20:42
christophorosThanks alot20:42
efialtisi feel brave but this link talk about asus and i have hp laptop..20:42
FloodBot1christophoros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:42
genii-aroundchristophoros: You're welcome20:42
genii-aroundefialtis: The crucial thing is the vendor:devic e code, which is 1814:329020:43
genii-around( not the laptop make, etc )20:43
defiantredpillI have an issue with my new mouse, I don't know how to swap 2 of the buttons(middle and special) as xinput classifies the special one as KeyClass and not a ButtonClass. (key[133]=down, the super key)20:45
efialtisone last question.How can something working on a "last year" version and now not?20:45
escottdefiantredpill, you probably couldnt at least not easily20:45
defiantredpilli was afraid of that20:45
squ1dAnyone know why using pptp vpn on Ubuntu 12.04 will hang while under higher traffic loads with "pppd[17745]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd"20:46
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genii-aroundefialtis: There was a bunch of stuff changed since then20:46
christophorosgenii-around i have 1 more hard disk in my pc witch i cannot see how can u mount it ?20:46
efialtishmmmm,so i have to find 11.04 and give it a try20:47
squ1dwhen on 11.04 pptp will stay connected for days20:47
genii-aroundchristophoros: Can you pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l  ?20:48
squ1dor was 11.04 the last known good version of ubuntu?20:48
Peyam10.10 lts20:48
Peyam10.04 lts20:48
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efialtisanyway,thanks a lot genii-around!i start downloading the 11.04 again.Good night and  really thx again!20:49
genii-aroundefialtis: Best luck!20:49
* squ1d pulls hair out20:50
genii-aroundchristophoros: So something like: make a directory in media called maybe in this case sdb1:   sudo mkdir /media/sdb1       then: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb120:51
squ1dProtocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xfe8720:53
squ1danyone seen this with pptp/pppd client?20:53
squ1di've searched google for several months now with no solution20:53
christophorosgenii-around thanks alot20:53
squ1dstarted with Ubuntu 12.0420:53
squ1dmy 11.04 machine works great20:54
genii-aroundchristophoros: If it says something like "must specify filesystem" or so, then install package ntfsprogs then try again20:54
christophorosgenii-around Thanks alot20:55
matlocksay i wanna build ubuntu20:55
matlockwith the android kernel20:55
matlockhow would i go about that...20:55
genii-aroundchristophoros: You're welcome.20:55
cgermannSqu1d could you be a bit more spasiffic?20:55
christophorosgenii-around how can i identify my graphics card and install the drivers ? cause i have 2 graphics cards.. 1 onboard and 1 ATI raedeon20:56
genii-aroundmatlock: You'd probably want to ask them in #android-dev20:56
yeehawsqu1d: http://askubuntu.com/questions/144456/pptp-connection-disconnect20:56
squ1dcgermann: I use Ubuntu 12.04 desktop with a pptp vpn20:56
squ1dcgermann: works fine on older ubuntu versions but now is very intermittent20:56
kingbeastchristophoros, just go with the ati graphics20:56
christophorosgenii-around yes but how i find the drivers ?20:57
fluvvellstupid question, when attempting to update a 10.04.4 LTS to 120.04.1 desktop using CDROM is Booting the CD the only option, as autorun.inf seems to be only for windows wubi.exe?20:57
matlockwhy not ubuntu-dev or here genii-around20:57
squ1dyeehaw: i tried all of that to no avail20:57
squ1dyeehaw: nothing worked, turned off all compression, etc20:57
genii-aroundchristophoros: In that case just to run the jockey or jockey-gtk and install the restricted drivers20:57
matlocki mean technically, this is ubuntu related considering 'ubuntu for phones' uses the same kernel as whatever android version they built it on20:58
squ1dpptp very buggy on 12.04 and i've tried all google has to offer20:58
squ1dabout to switch distros since I need this vpn connection20:58
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Ez0v3rR1d3i am trying to find a program equivalent or adobe after effects on my lubuntu system any ideas20:58
genii-aroundmatlock: Because if you were trying to compile an android kernel from in Ubuntu thats where you would go. If you're trying to comile an Ubuntu kernel from in side android, then #android-dev is the right place instead20:58
chiliblueRunning 12.04 lts and alacarte crashes on me when I try and add a app to it? Can anyone help me figure out why this is happening20:58
matlocki wanna compile an android kernel FOR ubuntu20:59
matlocknot IN20:59
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christophorosgenii-around its the Additional drivers from ubuntu software center right ?20:59
genii-aroundmatlock: Well, conceivably ask in bothe places then20:59
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genii-aroundchristophoros: Yes, exactly20:59
christophorosgenii-around trying it21:00
Ez0v3rR1d3genii-around got a question can u help21:00
cgermannsqu1d i have never used that vpn but i hate saying this but i found OpenSUSE or redhat to be better at VPN connections21:00
genii-aroundEz0v3rR1d3: Depends on the question21:00
squ1dcgermann: hehe, but i like my desktop!!21:00
bazhang!equivalents | Ez0v3rR1d3 have a look21:00
ubottuEz0v3rR1d3 have a look: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot21:00
squ1dcgermann: about to reinstall with mint or other21:00
Ez0v3rR1d3ok thanks21:01
yeehawsqu1d: No option to use openvpn or something?21:01
genii-aroundmatlock: It is also just recommended to me that you may want to try in #ubuntu-arm21:01
squ1dyeehaw: working on that actually but i use pptp for many devices for its simplicity21:01
cgermannsqu1d mint inharets the same VPN issues from ubuntu21:01
squ1dcgermann: thats what I'm afraid of21:01
squ1dsame repos21:01
matlockgenii-around, thx man21:02
squ1dhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/144456/pptp-connection-disconnect <- i've tried everything here and same thing21:02
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fluvvellnearst, are you online?21:02
Ez0v3rR1d3no help there genni any other ideas that may help me out21:03
squ1dpptp worked great on 9.10, 11.04 and my android devices.  12.04 changed something21:03
squ1di'm beginning to think it has something to do with the newer 3.2.x kernel21:04
chiliblueok on bugs.launchpad.net found my bug already reported. Status says fix released. How do I get the fix21:04
bazhanghttp://askubuntu.com/questions/1145/is-there-an-alternative-to-adobe-aftereffects  Ez0v3rR1d3 read this21:05
jhutchins_wksqu1d: It's not all the same repos - if it were, it'd just be debian.21:06
squ1djhutchins_wk: ok, I thought mint used same repos & packages just different desktop look & feel21:06
pfb-enseqHello, all. I'm running Tomcat 7 ( w/ OpenJDK Java Runtime Environment 1.7.0_09 on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. I installed Tomcat using apt-get and things seemed to be working fine. However, once I rebooted the server I can't access Tomcat (from localhost or the LAN). When I issue "/etc/init.d//tomcat7 status" it reports that the "Tomcat servlet engine is running with pid 1342". When I issue21:06
pfb-enseq"lsof -i TCP:8080" it shows that its listening. Status of ufw is inactive. Any ideas? (FWIW, I submitted this over in #tomcat but no one's home)21:06
jhutchins_wksqu1d: Some of them are the same, some things aren't.  It's probably worth trying at least.21:07
ikoniapfb-enseq: telnet to locahost 808021:07
jhutchins_wksqu1d: debian might regress the bugs that are in the newer distros.21:07
ikoniapfb-enseq: verify that pid exists21:07
pfb-enseqPID exists.21:07
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pfb-enseqtelnet > Name or service not known21:08
ikoniapfb-enseq: what command did you use exactly21:08
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pfb-enseqtelnet localhost:808021:09
ikoniapfb-enseq: that's not what I said21:09
ikoniapfb-enseq: please look at what I said do21:09
Ez0v3rR1d3got a question21:10
pfb-enseqI don't know how to do that - what command should I use?21:10
ikoniapfb-enseq: telnet localhost 808021:10
squ1djhutchins_wk: does mint use the same network-manager-pptp like Ubuntu?21:10
pfb-enseqFigured it out21:11
pfb-enseqConnection refuesed21:11
ikoniapfb-enseq: so it's not listening21:11
ikoniaor something is blocking you21:11
pfb-enseq\ufw is inactive.21:11
pfb-enseqOnly thing that changed was that I rebooted the server.21:11
squ1dpfb-enseq: check iptables -L -n too21:11
jhutchins_wksqu1d: No idea.  Ask mint.21:12
pfb-enseqI see nothing in the output from iptables indicating anything at all about 8080. Everything's zeroes.21:12
ikoniapfb-enseq: zero is "all interfaces"21:13
ikoniaeg: is everything21:13
jhutchins_wkpfb-enseq: Can you connect to localhost?21:13
ikoniapfb-enseq: stop tomcat and re-run the test21:13
ikoniapfb-enseq: (the telnet test)21:14
pfb-enseqI am SSH'd into the system. Apache responds locally and from the LAN.21:14
ikoniaif it still says connection refused something is stopping you getting to the daemon21:14
pfb-enseqI stopped tomcat and tried telnet again w/ same result - Connection refused.21:15
ikoniapfb-enseq: ok, so something is blocking you21:15
squ1dpfb-enseq: you can try flushing your iptables rules too especially if the default INPUT Policy is DENY, switch to ACCEPT21:15
ikoniapfb-enseq: how are you starting it ?21:15
pfb-enseqsudo /etc/init.d/tomcat7 start21:15
squ1dpfb-enseq: you sure its running?  try "ps -ax | grep -i tomcat"21:16
AndIrc___genii-around ?21:16
pfb-enseqps reports it running, yes.21:16
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Back and forth from working, but yes, currently around for 5-10 minutes :)21:17
AndIrc___genii-around I have restarted pc and now when I am in the login screen I can see the horizontal bar  with is up. but when I login I dont see any bars21:17
AndIrc___genii-around I cannot do anythink.21:18
AndIrc___maybe I switch off a service ?21:18
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Unfortunately I am in KDE and not Unity right now, so I cannot guide you through checking the NetworkManager and so on :(21:19
matlockand then it no exist21:19
ikoniamatlock: drop the language21:19
ikoniamatlock: it's not welcome or called for21:19
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ikoniamatlock: what do you want ?21:19
genii-aroundmatlock: -try with -devel instead of -dev21:19
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squ1dpfb-enseq: check your tomcat logs for anything strange21:19
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ikonia-devel is not for the android kernel21:19
ikoniait is NOT a support channel21:19
matlocksorry bout the s bomb21:19
ikonia#ubuntu-devel is for the development of the ubuntu platform21:20
jhutchins_wkpfb-enseq: Does netstat -lnp | grep 8080 show tomcat listening on 8080?21:20
AndIrc___genii-around u understoud my problem rho right? when I get in ubuntu I only see my desktop and nothink ealse not the two bars I cant do anythink21:20
jhutchins_wkpfb-enseq: Otherwise netstat -lnp | grep tomcat and see where it IS listening.21:20
AndIrc___genii-around can u explain here my problem maybe they can help me ?21:20
pfb-enseqjhutchins_wk - yes it does21:20
genii-aroundAndIrc___: This is just after you put the restricted driver for your video?21:22
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Looks like then some compositing failure ... is the ATI/AMD  fglrx one you put?21:23
AndIrc___I think so21:23
xaxisxhey #ubuntu, with Ubuntu for Phones -- is there plans to make it run on the iPhone (via a jailbreak mechanism or something)?21:24
xaxisxwhat about Android phones? if not, will it just be custom ubuntu phone hardware?21:24
ikoniano idea21:25
ikoniaxaxisx: try #ubuntu-phone21:25
xaxisxokay, thanks21:25
AndIrc___genii-around shall I reinstal ubuntu  ?21:25
genii-aroundAndIrc___: OK.  So I would do: ctrl-alt-F1 to gain a console. Then login, and do: sudo stop lightdm && sudo apt-get remove fglrx*   && sudo start lightdm21:26
genii-aroundAndIrc___: No reinstall yet :)21:26
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Then alt-f7 to go back to login screen21:26
syntroPixaxisx, afaik it would use android driver architecture21:27
pfb-enseqFWIW, I rebooted the server again and now I can telnet to port 8080 but still don't get any pages from browsers.21:29
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ikoniapfb-enseq: ok so that shows it's now listening, which is good, but something is blocking you externally21:29
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Oh, and I suggest also:  sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old  ... apologies for not including that earlier. It may still try to load the fglrx which will no longer be there if the xorg.conf file still refers to it21:31
AndIrc___genni-around it says me stop. unknown source21:32
syntroPi!telnet | pfb-enseq21:33
ubottupfb-enseq: telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh21:33
genii-aroundAndIrc___: During which step?21:33
jhutchins_wkpfb-enseq: What happens when you do GET<enter> in telnet21:33
syntroPioops sorry21:34
Pizza90hi all, does anyone know if there is a good alternative to the driver manager jockey?on ubuntu 12.04 i have tons of problems with it so i'd like to remove ti and add a better manager21:34
AndIrc___genni-around the first step21:34
jhutchins_wkpfb-enseq: At this point I'd probably start looking at tomcat's error log, as it will probably explain why there's a connection but no content.21:35
genii-aroundAndIrc___: Does the result of the command: apt-cache policy fglrx      show it as installed ?21:36
AndIrc___genii-around yes it is install21:37
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AndIrc___tell me again the command maube I mistypes21:37
AndIrc___cause I am from my note2 phone in here now21:38
genii-aroundAndIrc___: OK, so then just: sudo apt-get remove fglrx        (in this case)21:38
pfb-enseqDigging through tomcat log(s) now....21:38
AndIrc___genii-around done21:39
genii-aroundAndIrc___: So the entire sequence would be:  sudo stop lightdm        then: sudo apt-get remove fglrx      then: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old      then: sudo start lightdm   then: alt-f721:39
AndIrc___genii-around it says me stop:unknown instance21:40
genii-aroundAndIrc___: If it says that when you try to stop lightdm, thats fine21:41
genii-around( or if you already moved the xorg.conf successfully)21:41
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nikrepI have been getting into linux and a lot of the applications I use require mysql - just as a quick question is it possible to build a centralised mysql server and have the different application instances reference it?21:41
nikrepof course i mean the use of multiple servers referencing a dedicated server running mysql21:42
blkaddernikrep: That is generally how it works.21:42
AndIrc___genii-around u are the best =)))))21:43
squ1dnikrep: yes, that is pretty common21:43
nikrepok currently i have a install of mysql on each server and did think that its not really the best solution21:43
squ1dnikrep: For instance, one server for web and another higher powered one for mysql (higher cpu usage generally)21:43
blkaddernikrep: Well, it depends on your needs and what you are using it for...21:44
blkadderBest is a very relative term.21:44
christophorosgenii-around Thanks alot it worked i just had to start the last one21:45
genii-aroundAndIrc___: So you are back up to your original desktop once again?21:45
christophorosgenii-around yes it worked perfectly21:45
genii-aroundchristophoros: :) Cool21:45
nikrepat present only for two separate applications, one of them being mediawiki - ill check the documentation again to see how to configure the application to reference an external mysql21:46
christophorosgenii-around how can i see now if my ATI card is installed and not the Intel on board ?21:46
nikolaHello, I have a problem with ath9k. Signal is very weak (I have to next to router to see it). nohwcrypt=1 and compiling compat-wireless did not fix my problem.  System information dump http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646573/. Any help would be appreciated.21:46
nikrepthanks for the quick responces21:46
genii-aroundchristophoros: I think that setting would be in your motherboard BIOS, whether to use the onboard or not as default21:47
AcidRain2012502 bad gateway. how can i go about analyzing this issue?21:47
AcidRain2012i just moved houses so i have a new isp21:47
christophorosgenii-around : ill go check it now21:47
christophorosgenii-around : ill keep u posted if u are on :)21:47
seferisHi all! I just did apt-get install for oracle-java7-installer. but the application says jdk, jre... are these two the same as what i've installed?21:51
tad-poleseferis  Java Development Kit, Java Runtime Environment21:55
AcidRain2012502 bad gateway. how can i go about analyzing this issue?21:55
tad-poleOne for making one for running21:56
NewbieBodhidoes anyone know how i can view the charakters ä,ö,ü, and ß in my c programms?21:57
pdiddles03I need some help with a triple boot macbook pro21:57
NewbieBodhii set terminal and editor to UTF-8 but it don't works21:57
jerm1027I would like help setting up a network printer. Specifically, I'm getting an error about services not running for network detection21:57
NewbieBodhionly shows a (?) in a circle21:58
jacklk_Hi, I'm having a strange issue with my Nvidia GT 610 card - it seems to be locked to a constant 60FPS, how can I change that?21:58
jerm1027@jacklk Disable V-sync21:59
jacklk_I have...22:00
pdiddles03I installed ubuntu on my macbookpro 8,222:00
aksel633seferis: JRE --> Java Runtime Environment (Java execution environment), JDK --> The Java Development Kit22:00
jacklk_I still only get 60FPS *exactly* no matter what game I play.22:00
pdiddles03and now, after rebulding the mbr, windows sits at the "starting windows" screen and does nothing22:00
Elysiumis there any way to reset NickServ password?22:00
jacklk_Some games I should be getting over 100FPS.22:00
jerm1027what about games where you should get below 60FPS?22:01
jacklk_jerm1027: I suppose I would get less...22:01
Picijacklk_: sounds like its just being constrained by your refresh rate, which is normal.22:01
MB_wrkOkay, so I need some help resizing my LVM partition.22:01
jacklk_Pici: It works fine on Windows...22:01
jerm1027What's your monitor's refresh rate?22:01
AcidRain2012502 bad gateway. how can i go about analyzing this issue?22:03
jacklk_Pici: I can't find out, no website will tell me.22:03
malik_hi all, How can i completely disable password authentication in ubuntu 10.10. This question might sound silly but i think there is some hardware problem and i can not do sudo. It needs me to do dozens of attempts before the password is accepted. So i want to disable the password authentication at all.22:03
malik_can anyone help me please?22:04
jacklk_However, I get the FPS I should do on Windows.22:04
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Did you manually configure your connection or is it just using dhcp from the router/modem/other ?22:04
AcidRain2012genii-around: i manually configured22:05
AcidRain2012it was just working, but i did the updates and it started this again22:06
AcidRain2012could it be my domain hosting? i use godaddy22:06
jacklk_Pici: jerm1027: do you think my monitor has issues with Linux?22:06
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Picijacklk_: You know you won't be able to see any higher FPS because your monitor simply doesn't refresh any faster than that, right?22:07
jacklk_Pici: yeah22:07
Picijacklk_: even if it says you're getting a higher FPS22:07
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jacklk_I need to find a solution to fix this though22:07
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: So this is a physical machine or some VM at GoDaddy ?22:08
jacklk_is my monitor generally not fully compatible with Linux? I've never heard of drivers for monitors22:08
AcidRain2012genii-around: this is a physical machine. godaddy points to my machine22:08
AcidRain2012"502 bad gateway - response error a bad response was received from another proxy server or the destination origin server" is the full error22:08
DeadWeaselHow to get the janitor to actually RUN in 12.04 LTS?22:08
malik_can anyone help me please with the authentication failure problem?22:09
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Are you trying to reach this machine from another machine inside the same network?22:09
AcidRain2012genii-around: could you tell me wher ethere is a log of this on my box so i can get more information?22:09
CogboyI'm having webcam problems. When I use Cheese, it works fine, but if I try to use it on something like Omegle, the camera goes missing.22:09
AcidRain2012genii-around: no, im trying to reach it from my phone. it was just working right before i did updates22:10
jacklk_Pici: the refresh rate is 60HZ22:10
deavHow do I re run the setup network configuration script on ubuntu server 12.04 with the installation disk in the cdrom?22:10
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Since it can't make it to your box, what log would that box have?22:10
AcidRain2012genii-around: i just connected my phone to the network, and it gavve me an "Unable to Connect" error22:10
jacklk_Pici: it should be much more, but I am unable to change it :(22:11
AcidRain2012genii-around: well... my server is indeed returning the 502 error isnt it?22:11
CogboyHello?Can someone PM me regarding my problem?22:11
AcidRain2012genii-around: can i assume this is an issue with godaddy?22:12
DeadWeaselCan anyone point me to a good quad core conkyrc?  Also for AMD graphics card?22:12
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Well, or maybe your router. Try checking the apache logs (assuming you are running that) which would be in /var/log/apache2/       someplace along with the regular access logs22:12
AcidRain2012i already did. i didnt see anything that would indicate that apache was ever being touched by anything.22:13
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: May want to do a traceroute from outside the network to the IP your box is supposed to be on22:13
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: eg: is it even getting to that or some other machine fail in the middle?22:13
KrisBhello. do I need non-free drivers for compiz effects?22:14
CogboyI'm having webcam problems. When I use Cheese, it works fine, but if I try to use it on something like Omegle, the camera goes missing.22:14
christophorosgenii-around any ideas where to download vga_switcheroo ?22:15
genii-aroundchristophoros: Sorry, no.22:15
AcidRain2012genii-around: bah, wtf dude. my ip changed!22:15
AcidRain2012how did this happen?22:15
AcidRain2012why did it happen is the bigger question22:16
christophorosgenii-around i cannot switch from bios the graphics card. before on windows i could change it from insite windows22:16
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Are you supposed to have a static IP from your ISP?22:16
AcidRain2012genii-around: yes sir22:16
plundraIs there really no ident-server available in the main repository?22:16
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Then thats probably where the issue is22:16
agu10^I set up a DNS server at my linux amazon cloud VPS ( ). And on my virtualbox ubuntu, i set /etc/resolv.conf to use my remote DNS server. However, on the client I cannot reach google.com nor my own domains. I can reach them on the server though.22:16
plundraI've tried quite hard finding one, but I can't find one. This is on precise, btw.22:16
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Oh, wait... you mean internal LAN ip of the box changed, or your extrnal facing IP changed?22:17
malik_hi all, How can i completely disable password authentication in ubuntu 10.10. This question might sound silly but i think there is some hardware problem and i can not do sudo. It needs me to do dozens of attempts before the password is accepted. So i want to disable the password authentication at all.22:17
malik_can anyone help me please with the authentication failure problem?22:17
AcidRain2012external! this is some bs! they just hooked it up today and i was so happy to have internet back on. now i have to deal with this......22:17
OHNOmalik_: thats not a good idea, at all, in any way shape or form22:18
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Well, at least now you know to call!22:18
genii-around*know WHO to call, rather!22:18
AcidRain2012genii-around: lol yeah good point22:18
malik_OHNO, i don't see any other option22:19
AcidRain2012genii-around: i set my router to use a static ip, and NOT use a dynamic ip from isp. will this work?22:19
john_redmondhello room22:20
christophorosgenii-around how can i run scripts ?22:20
malik_OHNO, or may be if you can help me change the default ubuntu authenticatio system to anyother system.22:21
christophoroshow can i run scripts ?:)22:22
john_redmondhi frvefan22:22
genii-aroundchristophoros: Generally ./scriptname    if it's in the same directory, with sudo in front if needs admin access22:23
yourimym1hello , why after removing nvidia-current driver and get noueva back systems runs slower than the normal i've used nouevau22:24
genii-aroundAcidRain2012: Unless you also know the specific netmask/gateway/broadcast it's better to leave it at dhcp22:24
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christophorosgenii-around go here if you can http://asusm51ta-with-linux.blogspot.com/   i followed all steps.. on step 3 what i do ???\22:25
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test__hey, does anyone know how to configure pulseaudio?22:28
genii-aroundchristophoros: You would copy all the contens of that window, then paste them into a file called switch_between_cards.sh  in some directory like maybe /usr/local/bin which you should make, then issue sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/switch_between_cards.sh, then you issue: sudo /usr/local/bin/switch_between_cards.sh22:28
genii-aroundchristophoros: So first something like: sudo mkdir /usr/local   ( it may exist already ) then sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin   then gksudo gedit /usr/local/bin/switch_between_cards.sh    ...copy the contents in, save file... then sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/change_between_cards.sh22:30
* genii-around goes for a coffee22:31
test__hey, does anyone know how to configure pulseaudio?22:33
kostkontest__, what's your problem22:34
test__well, i can't use my mic22:34
kostkontest__, what do you mean by that22:35
test__it's all fine without pulseaudio22:35
test__it's mute22:35
test__i mean it's deaf22:35
test__i checked in alsamixer22:35
test__and it's unmuted, and put to 10022:35
kostkontest__, how did you test it without pulse?22:36
test__arecord -d 3 testing.wav22:36
test__this way22:36
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drlazhow can i obtain a laptop for my ministry, 'rents don't like me using my numbers on the net22:37
drlazubuntu laptop i mean exactly22:37
tad-poledrlaz: The store?22:37
kostkontest__, did you try to set up your mic in the ubu sound prefs?22:37
test__i have kubuntu22:38
viator_doing an upgrade to 12.10 i get linux-image-3.2.0-37-generic-pae subprocess installation scripped returned error exit status 122:38
drlazoh ok22:38
viator_says its doen with updated wants me to reboot22:38
kostkontest__, ok. did you try to setup your mic in the kde sound prefs?22:38
drlazwell they sent me a ballistic laptop an' it went back without anything on it22:38
viator_im afraid there will be a problem if i do22:39
viator_any ideas?22:39
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test__well there's only a multimedia section in the system settings22:39
test__i got to a list of pulseaudio devices22:40
kostkontest__, and?22:40
MoPacHi - I really need help with changing or adding a GVFS mount point if anybody can spare a minute22:40
test__for capturing, playback, and video recording22:40
test__it only lists pulse's stuff22:40
builder34593hi- the flash player settings are grayed. can any1 help me?22:40
test__"built-in audio analog stereo"22:40
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kostkontest__, in the capturing section, what options are available22:41
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test__only the one i mentioned22:41
kostkontest__, you could try with pavucontrol22:42
test__no luck there either..22:43
kostkontest__, what do you mean22:43
test__well in the input devices there's 'built-in audio analog stereo' and it has a port called 'internal mic'22:45
test__it's on 100% and yet there's no sound22:45
test__BUT when i listen to music, and say 'arecord -d 4 test.wav' in the console it records the music22:45
OHNOmalik_: i still dont understand the problem....22:47
OHNObut i can assure you, thats not the answer22:47
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Naphatulhas anyone set up a DE from the ubuntu minimal iso?22:48
EveeAnyone knows a good syslog server for a few ubuntu servers a random debian dist and a few windows 7 machines?22:49
christophorosHello how can i  do this ??? :::::   """"The vga_switcheroo mechanism will only be active when the kernel is booted with either the "modeset=1" kernel option, and/or the "nomodeset" option being absent. """"22:49
genii-aroundchristophoros: eg: gksudo /etc/default/grub   ... make a line there reading: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="modeset=1"   ... then save file, then issue: sudo update-initramfs -u   and then: sudo update-grub22:54
genii-aroundchristophoros: the first part should read gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub22:54
ponyofdeathhi, why does ubuntu not look for .termcap or .terminfo in my local dir for my terminnal's info?22:54
christophorosgenii-around nothink comes up when i do gksudo /etc/default/grub22:56
genii-aroundchristophoros: "<genii-around> christophoros: the first part should read gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"22:56
tad-poleWhats with all the root IRCers22:57
k1l_!rootirc | tad-pole22:58
ubottutad-pole: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.22:58
christophorosgenii-around hristophoros@christophoros-M17xR3:~$ sudo ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch22:58
christophorosls: cannot access /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory22:58
christophorosand i did all of the steps22:58
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genii-aroundchristophoros: Did you reboot yet so that the "modeset=1" took effect?22:59
Dii_PundiihHi. During last nights raid to the dump i found 2 skype phones dualphone rtx 3045.. Iv looked at google but did not find anything relevant.. is there some chanse to run them true linux.. If someone knows..22:59
christophorosgenii-around doing now23:00
tad-polek1l_ I understand that. :P23:01
Tex_Nickfor the past couple months, the title-bar on firefox occasionally disappears ... i never seem to notice exactly when it happens or what is triggering it ... i've been restarting firefox and it always returns to a normal state ... i'm wondering if anyone has encountered the same problem ?23:02
christophorosgenii-around can u please check this http://pastebin.com/tgdqDmYb23:04
Tex_Nickaddendum ^ i'm running 12.10 with gnome classic de23:04
genii-aroundchristophoros: You just ran updates or so?23:06
christophorosgenii-around i am trying to install playonlinux23:06
yourimym1what is the best desktop for 12.1023:06
christophorosgenii-around thats what i get everytime i try to install23:06
genii-aroundchristophoros: Ah. Sorry, don't know much about that.23:06
christophorosgenii-around ow okie :)23:06
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yourimym1what is the best desktop for 12.10?23:07
yourimym1exept unity i mean23:07
genii-aroundyourimym1: You're asking this un #ubuntu? LOL...   anyhow... the best desktop is the one that you find easiest fits your working style or hardware limits23:07
genii-aroundyourimym1: The best way to know is try them and make your own choice23:08
yourimym1am asking useres here , what is the most suitable ,23:08
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.23:09
yourimym1like taking recommandation here23:09
genii-aroundyourimym1: See above23:09
wiggmpkis there any way to filter the discconect/connect messages in Empathy?23:09
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yourimym1ok then , anyone familiar with nvidida drivers expert issues23:10
bulletrulzhey i have plank i need help theming it i t wont theme wright23:10
loticdescant77everytime i boot up i get could not apply the stored configuration file for monitors Error on line 1 char1:document was empty or contained only whitespace23:10
loticdescant77any idea how fix this?23:10
genii-aroundyourimym1: What's your current nvidia driver issue you require help with?23:12
srlehy all, i'm working with click(http://www.read.cs.ucla.edu/click/) and i need to run some configuration file in the kernel mode, first of all i dont know how to switch to kernel mode, they said with command click-install but that command is not avaible23:12
capoderraquestion: I'm checking out my machine using a live USB.  How do I check to see what driver is being used for my nvidia graphics card on my laptop?23:13
yourimym1tried all listed nvidia drivers from additional tab , and tried manually , but wont works get blank desktop , so after i've returned to my noueveau systems runs extremliy slow23:13
wagleno, that wouldnt work..  i dont know23:13
bulletrulzcan anybody help me with themeing plank please i put the theme in the right spot but it wont theme23:14
Tex_Nickcapoderra:  in terminal try ... sudo lshw -c display23:14
capoderraexcellent, it tells me my driver is nouveau. Thanks.  I'm going to try another driver to see if it solves my sound problem with my HDMI out to my TV.23:17
genii-aroundyourimym1: Did you make sure that "nomodeset" was in your grub loading line?23:17
yourimym1how i do this ?23:17
Tex_Nickcapoderra:  ;-)23:17
OHNOget to the grub menu, hit e, add nomodeset to the line23:18
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yourimym1the nomodeset23:18
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joshuI need some help troubleshooting internet connectivity when connected via usb modem23:20
joshuthe modem is connected and I have a wwan0 interface and ifconfig reports an IP address gateway etc. but I can't ping google.com or access the internet23:20
seferisHi all! I just did apt-get install for oracle-java7-installer. but blogs for the application i want to use says jdk, jre... are these two the same as what i've installed?23:21
genii-aroundyourimym1: Apologies for lag, somewhat busy... basically to add with admin rights in /etc/default/grub   the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"    then issue sudo update-grub and sudo update-initramfs23:22
genii-aroundyourimym1: The most common thing that happens is that this doesn't get done and then both nouveau AND nvidia load and cause issues23:22
mikeb111hi there can someone help me with my ubuntu pls23:23
OHNOeeeeewwwwww java :323:23
OHNOjust ask your question mikeb11123:23
MonkeyDustmikeb111  if you're sweet23:23
OHNOasking if you can ask a question is just redundant silly =P23:24
mikeb111right im new to ubuntu23:24
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rexwin_which package contains chkconfig23:25
MonkeyDust!find chkconfig23:25
ubottuFile chkconfig found in bash-completion, libwx-perl, lyx-common, manpages-tr, zsh, zsh-beta23:26
TazenHey guys, I've recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 (64bit) - Couldn't be happier save for one issue. Programs take a really long time to open and load, my thoughts were that it may be a drivers issue. Any ideas what could be holding it back?23:26
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OHNOtheres a multitude of things it could be Tazen23:26
OHNOram, cpu, other apps/processes23:26
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OHNOmore specific?23:27
raptrtazen: i had similar problem. went back and installed 32 bit and no problems23:27
genii-aroundyourimym1: Please, do not PM. I assist only in the open channel so that others may audit if I make a mistake23:27
Tazenraptr: Thanks for the tip, I'll give that a try. :D23:27
yourimym1GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" right ?23:28
rexwin_i ran apt-get install bash-completion it doesnot come with the chkconfig utility23:29
rootptany way to go back to the last correct configuration when boot?23:29
jribrexwin_: what do you want to accomplish?  why do you want chkconfig?23:29
OHNOrexwin_: try google23:30
MonkeyDustOHNO  don't say that23:30
rexwin_to startup some services23:30
jribrexwin_: be more specific.  chkconfig is not how that's done on ubuntu23:30
rexwin_OHNO, google for difficult things..this is not that complex23:30
rexwin_how to i make apache start when the system starts up23:31
jribrexwin_: when you install apache through the repositories, apache will automatically be configured to start at boot23:31
genii-aroundyourimym1: Yes, that goes into the /etc/default/grub   file. Then you rebuild the boot stuff with the other two commands. After this you can install the nvidia driver you want. I would first recommend that you have installed beforehand though: build essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and dkms    so that the nvidia install works.23:31
Starsheya, what is the cmd to see all hard drives in GUI?23:32
MonkeyDustrexwin_  ubuntu server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server23:32
genii-aroundyourimym1: Insert the nomodeset in between the double quotes which have no content23:32
loticdescant77upgraded to 12.10 if i use kernel 3.5 usb doesnt work and my laptop screen is low res 4x323:32
raptrim having problems after purging old libreoffice and installing 4.0 . all libreoffice apps are there, but will not launch when executed23:32
jribrexwin_: what about it?23:32
rexwin_this says there is chkconfig package23:32
genii-aroundWork, returning to my computer in about 5 minutes23:32
yourimym1it's readonly can't edit23:32
loticdescant77if i use same thing23:33
jribrexwin_: as I said before.  chkconfig is not how you manipulate services on ubuntu.23:33
genii-aroundyourimym1: eg: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub23:33
loticdescant77if i use all works23:33
* genii-around goes to see what boss is yelling for23:33
rexwin_oh , i see sysv-rc-conf23:33
jribrexwin_: that will work for services that still use the old sys-v-init-style scripts, but not ones that have been converted to upstart23:34
geniusrkoCan anyone tell which is the best os depending on my computer23:36
rexwin_ok jrib23:36
jribgeniusrko: that's subjective23:36
capoderraquestion: I have an HDMI cable connecting my laptop to my TV.  How do I get the sound to output throught the TV speakers instead of the laptop speakers?23:37
MonkeyDustgeniusrko  you're asking to promote the competition23:37
loticdescant77id like to use 3.5 but im not sure why usd etc doesnt work23:37
yourimym1sudo update-initramfs only ??23:37
InferisCan anyone reccomend a power manager for lxde?23:38
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wangzhwhat's this.23:40
MonkeyDustwangzh  ubuntu support23:40
genii-aroundyourimym1: I'm back. What stage are you at now?23:41
capoderraquestion: I have an HDMI cable connecting my laptop to my TV.  How do I get the sound to output throught the TV speakers instead of the laptop speakers?23:41
yourimym1sudo update-initramfs23:41
yourimym1add -u ? for it ?23:42
genii-aroundyourimym1: ah.. sudo update-initramfs -u    , yes23:42
yourimym1and restart ?23:42
mikeb587<mikeb111> right im new to ubuntu   <mikeb111> but it seams like i have a big problem  <mikeb111> after installation ubuntu doasent reboot i got blac screen  <mikeb111> this is my only os no win   <mikeb111> and I have been strugeling for days now it is the same story with fedora 18 if that helps @ all   <mikeb111> I do have nvidia 6200 but there is nothing i can do as the U dont even start23:42
genii-aroundyourimym1: Not yet23:42
yourimym1next step ?23:42
genii-aroundyourimym1: Do you have the packages I described installed? build-essential, headers, dkms?23:42
yourimym1nouevau !23:43
yourimym1or nvidia !23:44
genii-aroundyourimym1: eg: to make sure, I would:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms          and then:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   . We may need to still edit the xorg.conf file so it loads nvidia as well23:45
yourimym1i've got nvidia-current23:45
genii-aroundyourimym1: It makes it somewhat difficult to assist when questions are answered with a non-sequitur23:47
yourimym1i've done the steps , now i choose nvidia current from additional drivers  tab ?23:48
genii-aroundyourimym1: Yes23:48
genii-around( unless you already did the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current at commandline)23:49
yourimym1already marked23:49
genii-aroundyourimym1: OK. Now we need to see if it already exists in the xorg.conf. Please pastebin the file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   if it exists23:49
yourimym1but am afraid to restart , cuz last time i'd lost my desktop23:49
genii-aroundyourimym1: I haven't said to restart yet :)23:50
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yourimym1genii http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647065/23:52
genii-aroundyourimym1: Reading23:52
genii-aroundyourimym1: OK.  So now: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     ... and change fbdev to nvidia     then save23:53
yourimym1it's empty !!23:54
genii-aroundyourimym1: Did you use an uppercase X and not lowercase x in the "X11" part of the path?23:55
yourimym1upper case , X23:55
yourimym1i meant lower23:55
capoderraShould I be scared by: "warning this is an unstable beta driver, recommended for testers and early adopters only"?23:55
yourimym1copied from here ?23:55
genii-aroundyourimym1: Should be uppercase X.  At any rate, if you somehow have deleted the xorg.conf file, just copy what you put into the pastebin website and paste that into the empty file, replacing the fbdev with nvidia , as earlier described23:57
yourimym1this one ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647065/23:57
SonikkuAmericacapoderra: Depends. Do you want to get your hands dirty?23:58
genii-aroundyourimym1: Yes23:58
capoderra<sigh> not really dirty.23:58
yourimym1done genii sir23:59
genii-aroundyourimym1: Very well. Now assuming file is saved, a reboot should do it.23:59

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