[00:00] <MrHacks> I've chosen not to encrypt the hard drive on a new Ubuntu setup on another computer.
[00:00] <k1l> debiantoruser: im not sure if that is not breaking the gnome
[00:00] <MrHacks> So, encrypt nothing, caryhartline ?
[00:01]  * MrHacks is doing a new install right now
[00:01] <caryhartline> Idk, I just found that I don't have the knowledge to figure out a bad encryption setup.
[00:01] <tgm4883> MrHacks, depends on why you need encryption I guess
[00:02] <caryhartline> This all started because of a blog that gave a line of terminal uninstall to completely uninstall kubuntu.
[00:02] <tgm4883> caryhartline, admittedly, didn't you try to do something you weren't supposed to and end up breaking it? or was that someone else
[00:02] <jmcantrell> always encrypt if it's a laptop. encrypt your desktop if you're at all worried about someone stealing it, and don't encrypt servers
[00:02] <caryhartline> It deleted crypt_setup
[00:03] <caryhartline> I guess uninstalling crypt_setup will totally mess up your computer.
[00:03] <MrHacks> tgm, its my new desktop. I'm not working for the NSA. I do like using VNC so I can use my desktop via my tablet when the cat is in my lap
[00:03] <tgm4883> caryhartline, so you had an encrypted home dir?
[00:03] <silverone> MrHacks: do send us a picture of that
[00:03] <tgm4883> MrHacks, I'd agree with jmcantrell
[00:04] <mpma> good evening!
[00:04] <MrHacks> Then my decision is not to encrypt anything.
[00:05] <tgm4883> caryhartline, I mean, if you have an encrypted home dir, and you backup the encryption passphrase, then you should be able to recover it from the live cd. There is even a blog post about it http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[00:05] <caryhartline> It wasn't my home directory. I had it so u pressed f12 after turning it on and entering a crypt_setup sda5 password
[00:05] <MrHacks> Any objections before I click "continue"?
[00:05] <caryhartline> It was the entire hard drive
[00:06] <MrHacks> going once
[00:06] <unheeding> can anyone test and see if this bug effects them, and if so, add themselves to the bug report?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1123593
[00:06] <MrHacks> going twice
[00:06] <MrHacks> CLICKY POO!
[00:07] <tgm4883> caryhartline, it seems like you should still be able to recover if you have the passphrase
[00:09] <MrHacks> I'm looking forward to using steam soon and progeamming a whole mess of python programs again
[00:09] <caryhartline> Well I can unlock it, but I can't mount it.
[00:09] <tgm4883> caryhartline, why not, what happens when you mount it?
[00:10] <caryhartline> It says it can't mount cryptos luks or something like that.
[00:10] <MrHacks> I've been in hell the past couple of years with my netbook, so It feels good to have some legroom again.
[00:11] <tgm4883> caryhartline, how are you unlocking it?
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> MrHacks  stop spawning random remarks, please
[00:11] <MrHacks> sorry
[00:12] <caryhartline> I unlocked it on the live cd
[00:13] <caryhartline> And there was a thread that told me how to unlock it from terminal.
[00:13] <tgm4883> caryhartline, can you paste what commands you used to unlock it and what command you tried to mount it with?
[00:13] <caryhartline> It can't boot into that because "it can't find root directory"
[00:14] <caryhartline> I found how to unlock here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681
[00:14] <tgm4883> caryhartline, a 5 year old thread?
[00:14] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:14] <caryhartline> It was luksOpen
[00:14] <tgm4883> yeesh
[00:15] <caryhartline> That's one of the only threads with my exact problem.
[00:15] <tgm4883> caryhartline, ok, then you tried mounting it via something similar to 'mount /dev/sda2 /mnt' and that is where you got the error?
[00:16] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:16] <caryhartline> I also tried using install from the live cd and got a similar error
[00:17] <tgm4883> caryhartline, do you have anything on there that you actually want, or have you already blown it all away?
[00:18] <tgm4883> caryhartline, some searching suggests that you should use 'mount /dev/mapper/<tag> /mnt' to mount it, rather than /dev/sdXY
[00:20] <tgm4883> "You have made an encrypted partition, known as /dev/mapper/crypto (instead of /dev/sda8, which is now useless to the normal tools - mount /dev/sda8, for example, will no longer work.)"
[00:22] <jpmh> under ubuntu if I click on the volume icon there is am option to open sound settings, and there I can set my speakers at more than 100% - how do I do this with lubuntu which seems to use a different sound applet?
[00:24] <g16> jpmh: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol && pavucontrol &
[00:25] <caryhartline> I just moved over everything to an external harddrive so I don't have any worries now.
[00:27] <tgm4883> caryhartline, so you were able to mount it and copy your stuff off?
[00:27] <caryhartline> Ok so I guess I was able to mount it on the live cd, but I still can't boot from it.
[00:28] <caryhartline> New problem: http://i.imgur.com/GSBJiPi.jpg
[00:28] <tgm4883> caryhartline, ah ok, yea that was my question then
[00:28] <tgm4883> caryhartline, you are still in the live cd session that you mounted and backed your stuff up from?
[00:28] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:29] <tgm4883> caryhartline, and I'm assuming that is where you mounted it?
[00:29] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:29] <tgm4883> then yea, if you want to use that disk for your new install, you'll need to unmount it
[00:29] <caryhartline> I can't mount it from the terminal, weirdly.
[00:29] <caryhartline> So yes on prompt?
[00:30] <Flynsarmy> I installed gnome shell and when i turn my tv off and on again my full screen window isnt' full screen anymore until I press teh windows key. is there a way to stop that from happenin?
[00:30] <tgm4883> caryhartline, yea
[00:31] <caryhartline> Ugh I hate that I'll have to reinstall everything.
[00:31] <caryhartline> Steam games take so long to download/update
[00:32] <clipper> get list
[00:32] <clipper> Get List
[00:34] <caryhartline> New problem: http://i.imgur.com/x6Y36BU.jpg
[00:34] <caryhartline> What do?
[00:34] <debiantoruser> How to trully hold packages ? http://pastebin.com/N1zFuta1
[00:35] <AndChat-224721> !pin
[00:36] <caryhartline> Should I delete /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root?
[00:37] <vairos> Somebody knows an Electronic Circuit IRC channel?
[00:37] <_goxxsy_> `hi :-)
[00:38] <vairos> Hello
[00:38] <_goxxsy_> hello !
[00:38] <somsip> !alis | vairos
[00:39] <vairos> Thanks
[00:39] <dr-willis> why do you think you need to caryhartline
[00:39] <sencha> Anyone else have a LOT of pictures in ~/Pictures who has issues with the Appearance dialog in gnome-control-center?
[00:39] <landswipe> hey people, i grabbed the minimal install cd, it's like 30mb or so
[00:40] <landswipe> but when i install it downloads like 1gb - just with basic server and openssh installed
[00:40] <sencha> Appearance appears to try to load thumbnails of all the pictures, and then fails/freezes when it finds too many
[00:40] <sencha> considering submitting a bug report
[00:40] <landswipe> is there a way to really 'strip back' ubuntu to like a couple of hundred megs?
[00:40] <landswipe> 1gb is a fn lot of software.
[00:40] <caryhartline> Because I have a ton of partitions on here now and I just want one big hard drive
[00:41] <landswipe> i should have said 'downloads and installs to' 1gb.
[00:42] <elijah> If I saved a file to ~example.txt and not ~/example.txt, where would the file have been saved to?
[00:43] <elijah> I didn't get any errors when saving to ~example.txt
[00:43] <jpmh> g16: ty so much - just what I wanted
[00:43] <elijah> nvm
[00:43] <elijah> it will be the filename
[00:45] <caryhartline> Stupid install froze so I just shut it down and restart. Let's hope it works this time.
[00:47] <marwan_> how to access rails app running locally on ubuntu 12.10 (localhost:3000), from windows pc on the same network
[00:51] <mickster04> ip address?
[00:53] <technojabber> Hello
[00:54] <K3rmit> Hi I'm trying to get my usb atheros wireless card to work. When I do modprobe ath9k_htc I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ath9k_htc (/lib/modules/2.6.32-35-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[00:54] <PoolShark_> did you see dmesg?
[00:55] <mtadyshak> trying to automatically assign an IP address to our USB RNDIS device.
[00:55] <mtadyshak> Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file
[00:55] <PoolShark_> wait
[00:55] <mtadyshak> auto lo
[00:55] <mtadyshak> iface lo inet loopback
[00:55] <mtadyshak> allow-hotplug usb0
[00:55] <mtadyshak> iface usb0 inet static
[00:55] <mtadyshak> 	address 192.168.1.1
[00:55] <FloodBot1> mtadyshak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <mtadyshak> 	netmask 255.255.255.0
[00:56] <PoolShark_> tried to warn him
[00:57] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ but I'm not sure what to look for
[00:57] <bookpage> can somebody tell me exactly what happens when I exit a shell? In particular, what happens to the tty and any other processes that are using that tty?
[00:58] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: are you at a tty or are you puttied in or what? if you can, open two concurrent shells and do a tail -f /var/log/dmesg in one and the modprobe in the other, and see what pops up in dmesg when you run the modprobe
[00:58] <K3rmit> ok
[01:00] <mtadyshak> I pasted a question about isc-dhcp-server here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1641626/
[01:01] <technojabber> Can not delete a folder
[01:02] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ http://pastebin.com/q9G2sWi0
[01:04] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: I don't see anything in there that says anythying useful about your module problem
[01:05] <thatoneging> somebody available to help with wifi help?
[01:05] <usr13> thatoneging: Sure.
[01:05] <caryhartline> Installation is complete! :D
[01:06] <thatoneging> got a Ralink RT3290, trying to find somewhere online to help but really havent found anything definite to help
[01:07] <usr13> thatoneging: What's it doing?  (or not doing?
[01:07] <caryhartline> Thanks guy :) http://i.imgur.com/lUv93WM.jpg
[01:08] <thatoneging> doesnt recognize any wireless networks
[01:08] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ maybe here? http://pastebin.com/11yRUSu6
[01:09] <usr13> thatoneging: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/wireless-ralink-rt3290-not-working-on-asus
[01:09] <thatoneging> thank you so much
[01:09] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: sorry, i don't see anything there either...
[01:10] <K3rmit> what are you looking for?
[01:10] <usr13> thatoneging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466
[01:11] <usr13> thatoneging: But looks like that first link is all you need.
[01:12] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ here? http://pastebin.com/t2djgENL
[01:12] <thatoneging> first link as in the linux triaged?
[01:13] <sw0rdfish> is editing the iptables.conf and putting in rules the same as putting them in one by one in terminal
[01:13] <sw0rdfish> ?
[01:14] <darkomenz> hello, could anyone assist me with getting bonded vlans working on ubuntu 12.10 server?
[01:14] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: that's more like it..looks like you have dependent modules that were compiled on different kernel versions
[01:14] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: or something
[01:15] <sevenhill> hi everyone
[01:15] <cf16> hi
[01:15] <cf16> : p
[01:15] <microm> anyone got the sound working in kdenlive in precise?
[01:16] <heywood> hi all, i have sshguard 1.5-4 running (installed via apt). ps aux shows  it running with a whitelist (-w /etc/sshguard/whitelist). whitelist contains my IP. but sshguard keeps adding it to hosts.deny. anyone else seen this?
[01:16] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ ? Sorry I disconnected for a sec
[01:16] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: no problem. That looks like you have modules with conflicting versions
[01:17] <K3rmit> why
[01:17] <crazybrain> tgm4883: how to download Aria2c?
[01:17] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: maybe like a parent modules and child module were compiled on different kernel versions or something... not really sure
[01:18] <KristisB> hello, can you help me to try to understand some graphical terms in Unix-like operating systems?:)
[01:18] <crazybrain> How to download downloader for x in ubuntu 12.10?
[01:19] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: I have no idea why
[01:20] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: you can *try* modprobe --dump-modversions ath9k-htc
[01:21] <bulletrulz> hey?
[01:21] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: and if you're feeling really saucy, you can modprobe -f , but realize this may crash your system
[01:22] <heywood> KristisB: what specific terms are you trying to understand?
[01:22] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ FATAL: ath9k-htc: No such file or directory
[01:23] <bulletrulz> so i installed plank and tried to put a theme on it but it didnt work
[01:24] <KristisB> heywood,  desktop environment and graphical shell. some guy on #debian told me that Unity isn't a shell, it's a desktop environment.
[01:24] <bulletrulz> KristisB, hes right sense it is build of gnome 3 shell
[01:25] <heywood> KristisB: that's technically correct. you can think of a shell as an interpreter that understands a specific set of commands. (for example, sh, bash, ksh, tcsh -- those are all shells. )
[01:25] <crazybrain> alternative to Internet Download Manager in Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:25] <histo> KristisB: Unity is a shell ontop of gnome 3
[01:26] <Justice> when trying to install linux-headers 3.7 i get that dependency are not met, but the 3.7 kernel installed just fine.
[01:26] <Justice> any ideas?
[01:26] <heywood> KristisB: the desktop environment is the thing that defines how the desktop looks and operates. gnome and KDE are examples of those.
[01:26] <histo> KristisB: There are desktopp environments and window managers
[01:26] <histo> !unity | KristisB
[01:27] <KristisB> histo, so GNOME project is a desktop environment, a core basics, and graphical shell is something more specific, right?
[01:27] <histo> KristisB: With gnome 3 came this whole shell business in the sense of GUI atleast. Not to be confused with shells like bash zsh etc... The shells control how gnome looks adds features etc...
[01:27] <histo> KristisB: Right
[01:28] <histo> KristisB: There are other desktop environments like xfce lxde etc... And then there are window managers, Window managers control window borders, buttons, and their placement etc...
[01:28] <josesierra> hello!  I get a *lot* of apport-gtk errors.  Like, tons.  How can I fix this?
[01:29] <KristisB> histo, since I am now on Debian Squeeze, I asked #debian, "If Ubuntu now uses Unity as a graphical shell for Gnome, what is that that Debian Squeeze uses as a graphical shell?".
[01:30] <histo> KristisB: If you install gnome 3 in debian it will use the default shell.
[01:30] <histo> !gnome3 | KristisB
[01:31] <histo> KristisB: I believe squeze has gnome 2 by default though. That does not use shells.
[01:31] <tjbiddle> Hi guys. Not sure on the keywords for this, but I'm not coming up with a solution. Is it possible to have a global setting to change the terminal background when you SSH into a server? (On a per-server basis, not already set in my own terminal settings). Would like to have different colors dependent upon what environment I'm in.
[01:32] <histo> KristisB: Yeah I just checked on my debian box gnoe 2.3x
[01:33] <histo> tjbiddle: That would be controlled by your client terminal somehow. I cna't think of a way to do it server side nor would it make sense to do it that way.
[01:33] <Cyclohexane> Hi can someone help me with a network?
[01:33] <KristisB> histo, so we only have shell when an desktop environment is edited?
[01:34] <histo> KristisB: No only have shells with gnome 3
[01:34] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: I may have the name of your module wrong...
[01:34] <tjbiddle> histo: Damn. Alright. Why would it not make sense to do it serverside (If it were possible)? We could enforce a certain color on production servers to reduce any confusion.
[01:34] <histo> again not to be confused with bash or zsh etc...
[01:35] <histo> !details | Cyclohexane
[01:35] <histo> tjbiddle: If you could you'd have to make the changes on each server as apposed to just doing it on one client.
[01:36] <tjbiddle> histo: Puppet ;-)
[01:36] <tjbiddle> histo: Wanted to ensure it for multiple users, not just myself.
[01:37] <KristisB> histo, so GNOME 2 doesn't allow different shells, just to use the default environment as a shell, from 3 version on we can use shells like Unity or Cinnamon that are based on some core desktop environment?
[01:37] <histo> tjbiddle: Yea because what if A user ssh'd in with a terminal that didn't support colors then what would the server do? also how it even take control of the remote terminal?
[01:37] <histo> KristisB: Shells don't exist in gnome2
[01:38] <tjbiddle> histo: All hypothetical :) Would just be an added benefit for those who it did support. Ah well. Thanks!
[01:38] <histo> KristisB: Gnome 2 however did use a window manager to draw window decorations and handle placement like metacity or compiz.
[01:38] <histo> tjbiddle: I can't think of a way to do it or know of anything that exists. You may want to check cli-apps or ask in #linux
[01:39] <KristisB> histo,  so how can I see something on Monitor?:)
[01:39] <histo> KristisB: Huh?
[01:40] <histo> KristisB: http://xwinman.org/
[01:40] <KristisB> histo, I treated the whole view that I see on my screen as I graphical shell.
[01:40] <KristisB> as a*
[01:40] <ovejanegra> how do i become root when running a live cd_
[01:40] <ovejanegra> ?
[01:41] <johnjohn101> how do i get libreoffice 4.0 into 12.04?
[01:42] <histo> ovejanegra: sudo -i
[01:42] <nearst> hola
[01:42] <histo> !backports | johnjohn101
[01:43] <johnjohn101> thx histo:
[01:43] <histo> KristisB: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
[01:44] <dbrom_> anyone use handbrake
[01:45] <PoolShark_> yeah I use handbrake
[01:46] <KristisB> histo, so Unity (as a shell) isn't the whole view I see on the screen, just some parts of this?
[01:47] <histo> KristisB: If you read that gnomeshell link it will explain.
[01:47] <KristisB> histo, okay, thank you:)
[01:47] <histo> KristisB: All of this is way ot for this channel.
[01:47] <ctmjr> KristisB: was this not all explained to you in #debian?
[01:47] <PoolShark_> well luckily the ot nazis aren't here to complain
[01:48] <KristisB> ctmjr, no.:)
[01:49] <mtadyshak> Can anyone help setup isc-dhcp-server on 12.04LTS?   I pasted a question here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1641626/
[01:50] <KristisB> ctmjr, they say not even trust gnome.org ->> "Gnome is a huge project. dont let their nomenclature overwhelm your concept of computer sceince. thier knowledge is hardly end all"
[01:52] <dr_willis_> trust no one. not even yourself...
[01:53] <nearst> @<@
[01:54] <histo> KristisB: Yeah but the people in #debian are an end all compaired to the projects website?
[01:54] <_rogue_> irc://irc.gnome.org/#gnome-shell
[01:54] <histo> balls
[01:54] <ctmjr> KristisB: All's I said was you asked pretty much the same questions in #debian and received the same answers. And like histo said it is ot
[01:55] <histo> KristisB: Ask different people receive different opinioins. Until you edjucate yourself you will not know the true answer.
[01:55] <cf16> hi
[01:55] <KristisB> ctmjr - not really, histo explained it to me, and gave me the resource.
[01:55] <dr_willis_> hiddly ho
[01:55] <prariedogux> hi all.   is anyone here familiar with wifi headaches?  for example, how installing from live usb wifi works fine, and then soon as you update after the install, ubuntu kindly updates so nothing works anymore ?
[01:56] <cf16> does anyone know what to do with facebook that says "you are using browser which is not supported" via lynx?
[01:56] <Fels> anyone here knwo why when I use import QtWebKit 3.0  then a webview component I get module "QtWebKit" is not installed
[01:56] <JohnKI4RO> When I run FireFox the fan seems to run very frequently.  When I run Chrome or Chromium it barely runs at all?  Is FireFox that much more of a CPU hog?
[01:56] <histo> prariedogux: Most likely an issue with your firmware for your wifi device or a kernel update that broke the module for your device.
[01:56] <prariedogux> its been 48 hrs and im losing my marble
[01:56] <KristisB> histo, thank you for your help.
[01:56] <nearst> cf16, use gui + modern browser
[01:56] <histo> cf16: continue anyway or use the mobile facebook site.
[01:56] <histo> cf16: Unless you can change your user agent
[01:57] <Kireji> I'm running 12.04.1 on a server (a 1U in a colo) - and I did a distupgrade using apt.   When I did it, there was no option to install desktop version or a server version.  however, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/ implies there is a desktop and server version.  How can I tell if I'm running desktop or server, and is it possible to change from desktop to server?
[01:57] <histo> JohnKI4RO: top will show you.
[01:57] <cf16> canearest: thank you, any other hints?  : p I want it in lynx
[01:57] <JohnKI4RO> histo, Top will show me what a hog FireFox is?
[01:57] <histo> Kireji: dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <histo> Kireji: also uname -a
[01:57] <histo> JohnKI4RO: will show you cpu usage
[01:58] <prariedogux> ok histo.. so then what?  is there a way i can undo the update  and go back to what it was originally?
[01:58] <Kireji> uname reports " 3.2.0-36-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:44:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux "
[01:58] <histo> prariedogux: What type of wifi chipset do you have?
[01:58] <JohnKI4RO> histo, Yes, and system monitor does as well...I guess I'm just looking for confirmation...you know, misery loves company and all that LOL
[01:58] <Kireji> dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop - does not return anything
[01:58] <prariedogux> realtek rtl8188ce
[01:59] <Kireji> does 3.2.0-36-generic mean server or desktop?
[01:59] <histo> Kireji: Then it doesn't ahve the desktop packages installed. If you wanted to install them you could install ubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <prariedogux> i downloaded the driver from the site, ran it on the xp side of things and it works fine.
[01:59] <prariedogux> but ubuntu, ive messed with everything
[01:59] <prariedogux> nothing works
[01:59] <Kireji> don't need them - rather wanting to make sure the optimizations for server are all set up
[02:00] <histo> Kireji: Doesn't mean anything I don't believe they have a server kernel anymore.
[02:00] <Kireji> for example, they used to set deadline for the scheduler
[02:00] <prariedogux> which really is frustrating. it worked fine before updating.. why did update mgr mess with it if it was working fine, and then break it on me?
[02:00] <Kireji> not sure if there were/are other optimizations for server
[02:00] <histo> prariedogux: that driver should just work.  You can hold shift when booting to get a grub menu and boot an older kernel.
[02:01] <prariedogux> yes
[02:01] <histo> Going to watch the speech brb
[02:01] <prariedogux> it did just work
[02:01] <prariedogux> and then after installing
[02:01] <prariedogux> i updated evertying
[02:01] <prariedogux> rebooted
[02:01] <prariedogux> and now it doesnt work
[02:01] <FloodBot1> prariedogux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <JohnKI4RO> Okay, next question, this system is AMD64 but I am running the 32 bit OS...would there be any reason to change to the 64 bit OS?
[02:03] <mickster04> JohnKI4RO: none at all
[02:03] <mickster04> !64
[02:03] <escott> JohnKI4RO, more registers SSE4
[02:03] <nearst> JohnKI4RO, ram available is reason
[02:03] <mickster04> !pae
[02:03] <escott> JohnKI4RO, some security benefits to the larger address space
[02:03] <escott> mickster04, i believe all kernels are PAE now
[02:04] <JohnKI4RO> mickster04, Thanks...that's pretty straight forward LOL
[02:04] <jpmh> why is the limit 3.2 not 4 G since 2^32 is 4 G not 3 G?
[02:04] <escott> jpmh, kernel takes some, (video) hardware takes the rest
[02:05] <JohnKI4RO> escott, Thanks
[02:05] <JohnKI4RO> nearst, Thanks
[02:05] <jpmh> escott: ty - sort of always wondered but being cheap have never had a machine with enough memory for it to matter
[02:06] <cf16> histo: tahnks, mobile site works
[02:06] <escott> jpmh, <3GB addressable is very possible
[02:07] <osmdave> Hi when I type 'info bash' into a terminal it gives me information about the page. I read this is reading an info file. Where is this info file stored on the system I cant seem to find it?
[02:07] <jpmh> escott: absolutely - althiugh I have had to change from ubuntu to lubuntu with unity needing too much ram on some of my machines
[02:07] <prariedogux> is there a way to restore the original live usb modules and configurations for wifi?
[02:07] <escott> osmdave, its a special file format its not one you can just read. info is the correct tool to read it
[02:08] <prariedogux> i think my next  option is to find a hammer and fix it real good once and for all..
[02:09] <escott> osmdave, /usr/share/info
[02:11] <osmdave> escott, thanks but there doesnt seem to be much in there. No bash.info.gz for example
[02:12] <escott> osmdave, so "info bash" at the top it says "File *manpages*" ie its not an info page its a man page
[02:12] <dr_willis_> prariedogux: tried an older kernel yet?
[02:13] <prariedogux> i rebooted it and used the original before the update, and same thing.  on reboot, window pops up and says 'you are now off line'  'not connected'.
[02:14] <prariedogux> and then the wifi manager does not see any networks
[02:15] <osmdave> escott thank you very much thats what I was looking for
[02:15] <prariedogux> actually, it only sees a greyed out 'wired networks' and no wifi options at all..
[02:15] <heywood> what security-related daemons typically add stuff to /etc/hosts.deny ? i managed to get my own IP blocked somehow. uninstalled fail2ban, stopped the sshguard daemon... and still my IP keeps getting added. help please?
[02:20] <nearst> selinux, apparmor?
[02:23] <prariedogux> ok, if i reinstall.. is there a way one can update after the install everything except for the wifi handling?
[02:24] <Cub> is there any way to install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 12.10
[02:24] <rammstein812> HI, I need help installing Ubuntu64 on my PC, when I try to boot the iso from a usb stick I get white writing then it switches to a black screen and nothing happens, anyone got a similar problem?
[02:25] <heywood> ok, found the problem -- i had denyhosts installed and running, in addition to fail2ban and sshguard. is it redundant to have all three? does each one have some functionality that the other two don't?
[02:27] <Cub> hey rammstein812  can your pc boot from usb
[02:28] <skath> How do I get a list of all the packages which provide a dependency? (e.g. mail-transport-agent)
[02:28] <usr13> !nomodeset | rammstein812
[02:29] <rammstein812> Thanks a lot!
[02:31] <hyperkineitc> Hi all. This morning I ran dist-upgrade, and received an error that some packages failed to install. After rebooting, the machine freezes at grub. The keyboard is unresponsive, and the only way to restart the machine is reset or power cycle.
[02:31] <hyperkineitc> I've tried mounting the disk using a live CD and re-running grub-install, but no go.
[02:31] <rammstein812> ubottu, the problem is that I don't get that far in the installation
[02:32] <usr13> skath: apt-cache depends package-name-here
[02:32] <usr13> skath: man apt-cache  #for more info.
[02:33] <hyperkineitc> Why would grub freeze? I thought it's supposed to be an environment with which you can work with a wounded system.
[02:33] <skath> thanks usr13
[02:33] <escott> hyperkineitc, freezes at grub or after grub tries to boot the kernel
[02:33] <nearst> !patience
[02:34] <usr13> hyperkineitc: It depends on how badly wounded the system is.
[02:34] <hyperkineitc> Freezes at grub. It shows the previous kernels, but it's not possible to select anything.
[02:34] <nearst> hyperkineitc, jump into recovery mode ? or nomodeset
[02:34] <escott> hyperkineitc, yeah thats very strange and should be unrelated to apt as apt won't reinstall grub
[02:35] <hyperkineitc> Edits I've made to grub.conf are reflected, and I set the timeout high to give me time to select something.
[02:35] <nearst> edit on /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[02:35] <escott> hyperkineitc, do you happen to know what was in the dist-upgrade
[02:36] <somsip> !pastebin
[02:36] <hyperkineitc> It was supposed to be 11.04 to 11.10
[02:37] <hyperkineitc> Was going to work my way up to 12.x
[02:37] <MeatRocket> Hello i am having trouble installing ubuntu on a dvd, i'm currently on OS X
[02:37] <escott> hyperkineitc, thats not "dist-upgrade" thats "do-release-upgrade"
[02:37] <hyperkineitc> ok
[02:37] <escott> hyperkineitc, was it an "apt-get dist-upgrade" or a "do-release-upgrade"
[02:38] <thatoneging> how do you uninstall Google Chrome from Terminal?
[02:39] <MeatRocket> I'm getting a no mountable file system error
[02:39] <hyperkineitc> So I've booted off a 10.04 live CD, and chrooted to the drive.
[02:40] <dr_willis_> thatoneging: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:40] <hyperkineitc> Is there a way to test what is broken with grub?
[02:40] <nearst> sudo grub-install --recheck <disk>
[02:40] <dr_willis_> hyperkineitc: try that boot-repair tool yet?
[02:41] <MeatRocket> I can't burn the ISO to a disk. I keep getting an error. Won't let me mount it. please help
[02:41] <hyperkineitc> What-choo talkin' about dr_willis_?
[02:41] <hyperkineitc> Which tool?
[02:42] <dr_willis_> MeatRocket: mount? you burn the image to disk. you dont mount it
[02:42] <dr_willis_> !fixgrub
[02:42] <MeatRocket> I am having trouble burning it. I keep getting an error
[02:42] <dr_willis_> like the first link on the fixgrub wiki page
[02:43] <dr_willis_> ive no idea what burning tools exist for osx
[02:43] <MeatRocket> I am using disk utility
[02:43] <hyperkineitc> Adaptec toast is #1 3rd party disk burning for OSX
[02:43] <hyperkineitc> But you can do it with disk utility as well
[02:44] <mrsudoer> I know of the alternatives available to linux for Google Drive, but what do YOU guys use that works best as a Google Drive client/
[02:44] <somsip> mrsudoer: http://tomdignan.com/projects/gdrive-cli/
[02:45] <mrsudoer> somsip, i was looking for something a little more graphical :p like Insync, perhaps
[02:47] <loudaslife> Is it possible to get hardware acceleration without proprietary drivers on an ati card?
[02:47] <craigbass1976> If I'm in xchat and someone messages me, there's just a little blip in Unity and I miss it.  Is there a way to have something flashing in the top bar like with XFCE and GNOME2?
[02:48] <nearst> mrsudoer, then use insync, or try google for it
[02:48] <MeatRocket> Could it be possible that I am not using a correct disk? DVD+R won't work to burn the .iso
[02:48] <mrsudoer> thank you :)
[02:50] <nearst> MeatRocket, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[02:51] <shortstraw8> I have a lab for school that required me to install  java iced tea, now it is saying that iced tea needs my permission to run how do I do that?
[02:51] <coventry> Is this channel logged anywhere?
 I have searched ever inch of the site, nothing helps
[02:52] <escott> shortstraw8, can you give the exact message
[02:52] <hyperkineitc> Hmmm. So I've got the system up by chrooting. I've run apt-get upgrade and it breaks when upgrading mysql, which was the same error I got thismorning.
[02:52] <somsip> coventry: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/13/%23ubuntu.txt
[02:52] <coventry> Thanks
[02:53] <escott> MeatRocket, on the ubuntu.com website there are step by step instructions on how to burn dvds for many different OSes
[02:54] <MeatRocket> escott I've look on the website. I've actually done it before but with DVD RW. This time I have DVD +R and I am getting an error
[02:54] <escott> hyperkineitc, was it an "apt-get dist-upgrade" or a "do-release-upgrade"
[02:55] <shortstraw8> escott,  Im on java.com there is the media window for testing if the plug-in worked, I move the cursor over it and it say  Iced tea need permission to run
[02:56] <escott> shortstraw8, yes. click to run. you should absolutely under no circumstances be running java applets from random websites
[02:57] <shortstraw8> escott,  When I click on it nothing happens
[02:57] <shortstraw8> I installed from software center
[02:58] <escott> shortstraw8, given all the security problems they may have put up additional barriers in front of java applets
[02:58] <hyperkineitc> I think it was dist-upgrade
[02:58] <escott> shortstraw8, i think there is also a different package for the firefox plugin of java from the standard jvm
[02:59] <shortstraw8> escott,  Im running chrome
[02:59] <shortstraw8> escott,  do I need to manually do it in the file system?
[03:01] <shortstraw8> escott,  Just did a update in terminal working now. Thanks
[03:01] <theperfectpunk> hello guys
[03:01] <tad-pole> hello
[03:01] <escott> !info icedtea-7-plugin | shortstraw8
[03:01] <theperfectpunk> I AM trying to compile rts5229 drivers
[03:01] <theperfectpunk> realtek card reader driver
[03:02] <theperfectpunk> i get this error
[03:02] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/kabp6YKU
[03:02] <theperfectpunk> could anyone have a look at it
[03:03] <MeatRocket> finally got it to work, no thanks to you gurus
[03:03] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/kabp6YKU
[03:03] <theperfectpunk> plz help
[03:04] <tad-pole> MeatRocket: Does it look like anyone cares?
[03:04] <theperfectpunk> tad-pole?
[03:04] <tad-pole> Darn i missed him
[03:04] <tad-pole> I dont know how to compile anything   :./ sorry
[03:04] <theperfectpunk> hehe
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> thanks anyway
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> for at least not ignoring it
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> any developers out here?
[03:05] <escott> theperfectpunk, never compile as root
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> it's a drive
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> *driver
[03:06] <theperfectpunk> so i just remove sudo?
[03:06] <tad-pole> I dont think that was a fix, just a comment.
[03:06] <hyperkineitc> theperfectpunk: You have the headers installed, but do you have the kernel source installed?
[03:07] <escott> theperfectpunk, it was a comment never X as root unless you need to be root to do X. compiling is not such an X
[03:07] <hyperkineitc> Kernel source must match the kernel you're using and must match the headers as well.
[03:07] <theperfectpunk> it worked!
[03:07] <theperfectpunk> remove sudo
[03:07] <theperfectpunk> and it worked
[03:08] <tad-pole> rofl
[03:08]  * tad-pole claps for escott
[03:08] <theperfectpunk> oops i forgot to put install
[03:08] <theperfectpunk> just used make
[03:08] <escott> !info checkinstall | theperfectpunk
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> ok i'll check
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> i have run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> to get headers
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> escott cud u plz stay there for 1 min
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> i'll be back
[03:12] <dr_willis_> !headers
[03:13] <vairos> !header
[03:13] <luissk89> !ndiswrapper
[03:13] <vairos> !headers
[03:14] <tad-pole> Living off a sprintPCS 3g signal in a house under giant tree's  SUCKS.
[03:14] <ChrisWere> I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:15] <escott> ChrisWere, you can try to xset -dpms
[03:15] <ChrisWere> escott: I do that but it only works some of the time
[03:15] <ChrisWere> escott: I tried it today, but nothing happened
[03:15] <luissk89> hi! how to enable module ndiswrapper ?  both ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper utils are installed. running lubunto
[03:16] <hyperkineitc> I feel your pain tad-pole. My only internet at home has been Sprint 4G. It's 'good enough', but not great
[03:16] <isaias> i I were to install ubuntu on a tablet. would it be touchscreen? :P
[03:16] <hyperkineitc> Not by default
[03:17] <tad-pole> 3g would be alright without the tree's... I literally get bytes/s :/
[03:17] <hyperkineitc> Bummer!
[03:17] <hyperkineitc> Any idea how far the nearest cell cite is?
[03:17] <ChrisWere> escott: any other ideas?
[03:17] <escott> ChrisWere, not really
[03:18] <tad-pole> I just know the direction   I never bothered to look at the distance.
[03:18] <ChrisWere> Anyone else? I just installed kubuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:18] <theperfectpunk> escott what was the package?
[03:18] <tad-pole> chriswere: Did you search for similar problems with similar os/and computer model?
[03:18] <escott> theperfectpunk, checkinstall
[03:19] <ChrisWere> tad-pole: yes but I got nothing
[03:19] <tad-pole> Just an idea :/
[03:19] <hyperkineitc> tad-pole: You may want to look into making a passive repeater
[03:19] <theperfectpunk> k installed
[03:19] <theperfectpunk> now try to compile?
[03:20] <escott> theperfectpunk, use checkinstall instead of make install (if you can for kernel modules... i dont know what the best procedure is there)
[03:20] <tad-pole> hyperkineitc: We used legit ones in job shacks in the middle of no where and they work great.    I just cant afford them.   and never seen a good tutorial on making one.
[03:20] <tad-pole> Not that I looked much
[03:20] <tad-pole> Wish I had a antenna hookup on my phone :>
[03:21] <hyperkineitc> All you need is a pair of cell antennas connected back to back. One ponted at the cell site, the other beaming into your house.
[03:21] <theperfectpunk> just xecuted checkinstall
[03:21] <ChrisWere> Anyone else have any ideas? I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:21] <nearst> build your own antenna base station
[03:21] <theperfectpunk> how to use it?
[03:21] <hyperkineitc> I would use a beam antenna for the cell side, and a patch antenna for the house side
[03:21] <escott> theperfectpunk, that will create a deb file which you can dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:21] <theperfectpunk> i just ran checkinstall
[03:22] <theperfectpunk> and i get a command line
[03:22] <hyperkineitc> Think of it like having a short length of fiber optic bending the signal to where you need it.
[03:22] <theperfectpunk> what's the syntax?
[03:22] <escott> theperfectpunk, it should prompt you for a package name and version
[03:23] <K3rmit> I'm trying to get a usb wireless card to work - atheros but I get this error when trying to load the driver. http://pastebin.com/XHNE1A83
[03:23] <ChrisWere> anyone?
[03:24] <broknbottle> K3rmit: what version of ubunut?
[03:24] <theperfectpunk> this is what i get
[03:24] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/LD9w8S05
[03:24] <ChrisWere> I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:24] <K3rmit> broknbottle Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:24] <escott> theperfectpunk, its waiting for a description of the package
[03:25] <broknbottle> K3rmit: what distro release? that's an older kernel
[03:25] <hyperkineitc> K3rmit: What does your dmesg say?
[03:25] <theperfectpunk> description is ?
[03:25] <theperfectpunk> anything?
[03:25] <theperfectpunk> i wanna write?
[03:26] <theperfectpunk> it's just for reference ?
[03:26] <nearst> http://leonardom.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/install-wireless-usb-adapter-tl-wn721n-driver-on-ubuntu-10-4/
[03:26] <escott> theperfectpunk, its a description
[03:26] <hyperkineitc> I'd just hit enter
[03:26] <Or6itz> Alright, I am new to Ubuntu. Only been on it 3 days and I am hooked. How this OS is not pre installed on all computers surprises me. To steal from Apple, "It Just Works"
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> ok i wrote the description
[03:27] <ChrisWere> Anything that vaguely reference my problem on the forums is at least 3 years out of date? I don't even know why they keep posts on for as long as that
[03:27] <ChrisWere> I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> and i get 13 iotion
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> options
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> 0-13
[03:28] <escott> theperfectpunk, the most important bits are the package name and version (dependencies are also nice if you want to fill those out)
[03:28] <escott> theperfectpunk, but your dependencies are the kernel itself so its less important
[03:28] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/M3hapLFx
[03:29] <isaias> Ubuntu TV
[03:29] <theperfectpunk> ok so hw do i continute now
[03:29] <isaias> How do I get it? What do I need?
[03:29] <theperfectpunk> it says installation failed
[03:29] <Haematoma> Anyone here have experience successfully writing udev rules?
[03:30] <walterwoj1> I'm trying to install ledgersmb but when I do 'sudo apt-get install ledgersmb' I get 'Unable to locate package ledgersmb'. I think I'm missing a repository but what one and how do I add it?
[03:30] <broknbottle> ChrisWere: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=100264
[03:30] <Haematoma> really confused *scratches head*... all the guide I'm looking at tell me to use vol_id, but it seems to have been replaced by blkid
[03:30] <theperfectpunk> ok
[03:30] <theperfectpunk> escott
[03:30] <tad-pole> hyperkineitc Placing it in the center of a spaghetti strainer seemed to help :P
[03:30] <Haematoma> guides*
[03:30] <theperfectpunk> it gave permission denied so i ran it as root
[03:30] <escott> theperfectpunk, not everything works with checkinstall
[03:31] <hyperkineitc> Whatever works!
[03:31] <escott> theperfectpunk, checkinstall has to be run as root
[03:31] <theperfectpunk> and it says package has been installed
[03:31] <nearst> sudo -i will work too
[03:31] <theperfectpunk> so now it has generated a deb file?
[03:31] <theperfectpunk> or has it gotten installed?
[03:32] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should have a deb file in your folder. i always install that deb file
[03:32] <theperfectpunk> ok i see it
[03:33] <dr_willis_> !fnd ledgersmb
[03:33] <dr_willis_> !find ledgersmb
[03:34] <dr_willis_> !info ledgersmb
[03:35] <paws-> why are my users able to go to other users home dirs in ssh... how can i stop this?
[03:35] <nearst> paws-, either chroot or jail
[03:35] <tad-pole> the R hax u :/
[03:35] <theperfectpunk> escott
[03:35] <theperfectpunk> sudo modprobe rts5229 not working
[03:35] <theperfectpunk> after install
[03:36] <dr_willis_> !permissions | paws-
[03:36] <nearst> theperfectpunk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104129
[03:36] <walterwoj1> dr_willis_: Ok, so the package exists (I figured it did) but why do I get that errors?  Can you help me figure it out?
[03:36] <paws-> what is the default chmod that my home dir should be?
[03:36] <escott> paws-, you want to change the default umask
[03:36] <isaias> anyone here familiar with Ubuntu TV?
[03:37] <jrib> paws-: the default permissions for home let everyone access them (read and execute).  If you don't want that, change it (see ubottu's link)
[03:37] <nearst> !ask | isaias
[03:37] <Myrtti> isaias: it's not published yet, so no.
[03:37] <dr_willis_> walterwoj1: done a sudo apt-get update recently? us the universe repo enabled?
[03:37] <theperfectpunk> i am trying to install card reader driver not wlan driver
[03:38] <isaias> when will it be published? all i find are articles from 2012 stating that it will be released by the end of the year
[03:38] <walterwoj1> dr_willis_: Yes to #1 and I'm not sure about the second.  How do I check?
[03:38] <dr_willis_> !repos
[03:38] <nearst> theperfectpunk, sorry. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2064649
[03:39] <escott> theperfectpunk, i think modutils needs to rescan for modules
[03:39] <theperfectpunk> syntax?
[03:39] <unheeding> does anyone know why my compiz settings keep reverting when i log out and back in?
[03:39] <Myrtti> isaias: you know exactly as much as most, if not all of us, then
[03:39] <theperfectpunk> @nearest will it work for rts5229 too?
[03:40] <dr_willis_> unheeding: chwck that your config files are not owned by root by mistake
[03:42] <walterwoj1> Jsut to make It a bit more fun, this is on a remote machine ( and I haven't disabled any repositories ) so I only have terminal access.
[03:44] <K3rmit> hyperkineitc http://pastebin.com/MYmwp4bN & http://pastebin.com/Axz9jbb0
[03:47] <tad-pole> Whats a good social channel on this network?
[03:48]  * dr_willis_ resists suggesting #foreveralone
[03:51] <tad-pole> Resistance is Futile?
[03:51] <walterwoj1> dr_willis_: I ran 'add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"' to add universe and then 'update' and the 'install ledgersmb' and I still get 'E: Unable to locate package ledgersmb'
[03:51] <tad-pole> ;)
[03:51] <john838> on ubuntu-server, anyone know how to allow the "sudo reboot" to actually restart the computer? also, how to restore tty screens like ctrl+alt+F1?
[03:58] <dr_willis_> walterwoj1:  the universe repo should be listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list  file.
[03:58] <dr_willis_> the partner repo is not the same as the universe repo
[03:59] <dr_willis_> whichis what your command would have added.
[03:59] <dr_willis_> bbl.
[04:02] <walterwoj1> Dang it, universe is enabled in that list, arrrg!
[04:08] <gladi8er> question...i think the earlier versions of ubuntu had a 'devices' or 'places' menu where i could install guest additions this is not avail in the new version, is this option still available?
[04:09] <AlbertoCG> [Question]I just started using Ubuntu as a VM but it shows in a 4:3 resolution.. How do I switch this to 16:9? It doesn't show the option at Display Settings
[04:10] <tad-pole> Alberto: what vm software?
[04:11] <AlbertoCG> VirtualBox tad-pole
[04:12] <jose106> AlbertoCG, did you install the guest additions?
[04:12] <AlbertoCG> jose106, This is my first time using a VM
[04:12] <tad-pole> You can try the scale mode
[04:13] <tad-pole> I think you hit right CTRL and C
[04:13] <jose106> AlbertoCG, go to Devices and install them. See if that works
[04:13] <tad-pole> Or under the "Machine" tab on top
[04:14] <jose106> AlbertoCG, or right Alt + D
[04:15] <AlbertoCG> tad-pole, that works it displays it, but not the way it's suposed to... Not with the right dimensions
[04:15] <AlbertoCG> jose106, I'll try that
[04:15] <jose106> AlbertoCG, you might head out to #vbox too
[04:15] <tad-pole> AlbertoCG Click and drag to resize it
[04:16] <unheeding> so when i launch a program, it starts unmaximized, with the window titlebar underneath the unity panel
[04:16] <unheeding> is there any way to fix this?
[04:16] <AlbertoCG> jose106, TY
[04:16] <jose106> AlbertoCG, np
[04:18] <unheeding> i found it, it was the Place Windows plugin
[04:19] <AlbertoCG> It worked n.n They told me the same @ #VBox
[04:20] <ovejanegra_> how do i access the files on the hdd from a live cd? in the folder explorer it says i have no authorisation and doesnt ask me for password...
[04:20] <gladi8er> [Question] I think the earlier versions of ubuntu had a 'devices' or 'places' menu where i could install guest additions this is not avail in the new version, is this option still available?
[04:22] <devslash> besides ubuntu,lubuntu and kubuntu are there any other ubuntu variants ?
[04:22] <unheeding> gladi8er: what exactly are you tryinng to install?
[04:22] <unheeding> devslash: Xubuntu, with the Xfce desktop environment.  There's also Ubuntu Gnome Remix, with Gnome Shell
[04:22] <gladi8er> vboxadditions
[04:23] <devslash> I'm using ubuntu in a VM but it is so painfully slow
[04:23] <unheeding> devslash: Linux Mint is almost a variant of Ubuntu (it's based on it, but not associated).  they include two main choices:  MATE and Cinnamon
[04:23] <histo> devslash: xubuntu
[04:23] <unheeding> devslash: I found running things in VM super slow until I enabled VM acceleration in my BIOS
[04:23] <unheeding> devslash: it wasn't enabled by default
[04:23] <devslash> you enabled 3d accel?
[04:23] <histo> devslash: You need vm acceleration and 3d accell
[04:24] <histo> devslash: unity is running compiz and relies heavily on modern video cards.
[04:24] <devslash> whats do you mean vm acceleration ?
[04:24] <devslash> I'm using virtualbox
[04:24] <histo> !derivatives | devslash
[04:24] <devslash> id really like to get ubuntu 12.10 to work
[04:25] <gladi8er> im new to this so im not sure. is there a way to find this out easily?
[04:25] <unheeding> well, if you go under settings... System -> acceleration
[04:25] <histo> devslash: Install guest additions?
[04:25] <devslash> yea
[04:25] <unheeding> devslash: mine is an AMD chip, so it says "Enable VT-x/AMD-V"
[04:25] <unheeding> when i selected it, it gave me an error saying it wasn't enabled, so I went into the BIOS and found the switch
[04:25] <devslash> yea i have that setting in virtual box and it is enabled
[04:26] <histo> gladi8er: are you running a virtual guest?
[04:27] <ovejanegra_> how do i access the files of the users from a live cd, please?
[04:28] <gladi8er> i wish i could answer that.  a friend of minegave me instructions on setting up the virtual machine with ubuntu and that is one of his instructions. he mentioned an earlier version of ubuntu but i have the latest
[04:28] <gladi8er> ive set up a firewall thru vmvb and ubuntu
[04:28] <histo> gladi8er:You have to install them through virtualbox.
[04:29] <histo> gladi8er: it will mount an iso on the guest and you can install it there. They maybe in the repos let me look
[04:29] <gladi8er> thanks
[04:31] <rj_> hey guys. i am a complete ubuntu noob -  i almost have it all set up -  i have a few simple questions ...anyone want to be a pal and help a brother out ? :)
[04:31] <dr_willis_> !manual
[04:31] <dr_willis_> whats the specific questions. ;)
[04:31] <histo> gladi8er: ask in #vbox on here.
[04:31] <gladi8er> thanks histo
[04:32] <histo> gladi8er: or in virtualbox if they still have this select devices > Install guest additions
[04:32] <gladi8er> its not there
[04:32] <histo> gladi8er: ask in #vbox then they will know
[04:32] <gladi8er> thanks again
[04:34] <rj_> :) ....have a thumb drive and want to run live ..... when i suspend, after i wake er up it freezes when it trys to have me log in .....i want to have it not do that but the option is blanked out (12.10)
[04:35] <histo> rj_: Shouldn't be happening. Possibly a bug.
[04:35] <rj_> :( ...
[04:36] <dr_willis_> cant say ive ever tried to suspend or hibernate from a live-usb
[04:37] <histo> Well suspend doesn't use any swap so I dont' see it being an issue. Unless there is an IO problem with getting the info to RAM from USB prior to the suspend.
[04:37] <histo> being that USB is so slow.
[04:37] <rj_> i just want to b able to shut er down for the night and have er load back up without reboot ....or i have to take 10 min to reconfigure my network settings
[04:39] <rj_> slow i can deal with  - compared to having nothing
[04:40] <kelvinella> hello
[04:40] <histo> rj_: Well you can't hibernate without swap that is larger than RAM
[04:40] <histo> rj_: Are you trying to hibernate or suspend?
[04:41] <SuperLag> If you have to reinstall... do you guys have any advice on how to do a faster post-install configuration? (your favorite apps, custom configuration, ssh keys... etc.)
[04:42] <rj_> can i install to the usb......i use my 7 in my office (no wireless) micro pc has wireless but the hdd bricked so i want to use the ubuntu for my movies and internet sharing (to the 7)
[04:44] <rj_> i just dont want to keep er on all the time and i dont want to set it up every time i reebot
[04:46] <histo> yes you can install to usb or
[04:46] <histo> !persistant
[04:46] <histo> rj_: ^^
[04:47] <rj_> ;) thanks histo...ill give er a look
[05:14] <vnc786> i want apache(basic+advance) book can some one tell me which is the best book for apache learning from scratch right now i am reading Apache Administrators Handbook
[05:14] <axtran> vnc786: Do you think you'll learn on a book?  I learn best by trial and error personally
[05:17] <vnc786> axtran: i agree with you and i am doing practice also but at same time i also prefer to read.
[05:17] <dr_willis_> I tend to grab whatever books I find in the bargin bins
[05:18] <axtran> vnc786: There are many scenarios where apache is used in many ways, use cases, load... But since its core hasn't changed much, you can really just find the cheapest online like at amazon.com
[05:19] <vnc786> axtran: for example: i came to know that when apache gets request 1st it check virtual host.and so on...this lead to read books..
[05:21] <dr_willis_> see what books get the best rewiews at amazon
[05:21] <RJ_> im back guys ....i have more problems installing to usb which i dont want to get too deep on .....anyone think of a way to - sleep - hibernate - suspend (Live) without having it ask for password on wake up?
[05:23] <vnc786> dr_willis: axtran : thanks will let u know if found some intersting..
[05:25] <axtran> RJ_: You can specify no password challenge, no?
[05:26] <RJ_> sorry total noob here ??????
[05:26] <histo> RJ_: Change the power settings
[05:26] <RJ_> challange?
[05:26] <histo> Gear > system settings > power
[05:27] <RJ_> ill have a look ;)
[05:27] <histo> RJ_: or open gnome-control-center from a terminal
[05:28] <RJ_> 1 min
[05:29] <chaz68> Just when I think I had the ".xsession-errors.old" file in my home directory beaten down I get a huge "lightdm.log" file in my "/var/log/upstart" directory.
[05:29] <Luan> any one explain what is a ssh tunnel ?
[05:30] <chaz68> Anybody have this one after piping .xsession-errors.old to >/dev/null?
[05:30] <RJ_> does G-C-C just open up a new terminal "line" thingy
[05:31] <dr_willis_> a   .old file  world be a log backup. dosent make mech sence to pipe it
[05:31] <Improv> Hey all; after a stock install without hardware-specific X drivers, should glxinfo work (presumably through MesaGL)?
[05:32] <chaz68> "lightdm.log" swelled up to like 60+ GB and then started giving my little Ubuntu box out of hard disk message.
[05:32] <Improv> According to xdpyinfo the GLX extension is enabled, but I get a BadRequest (X_GLXQueryServerString) when I try glxinfo.
[05:33] <RJ_> i am going to revert to the other Live settings that worked for me brb
[05:33] <chaz68> dr_willis:  Here's a better explanation of what I did.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517991
[05:33] <chaz68> These .xsession-errors files swelling up to gargantuan proportions seems to be pretty common problem out there.
[05:34] <chaz68> Also see here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2054467
[05:34] <chaz68> I probably should have just installed from scratch but here I am getting log files swelling up my disk size every week.
[05:35] <dydzEz2> whats a good pdf viewer for ubuntu
[05:35] <Improv> evince
[05:35] <chaz68> It's like whack a mole...
[05:40] <Guest98103> chmod: cannot access `/home/vikas/.gvfs': Permission denied
[05:41] <Guest98103> how i can fix this
[05:41] <tad-pole> Get permission.
[05:41] <dr_willis_> leave. gvfs alone.  its special
[05:41] <dr_willis_> what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <matthewvz> Guest98103: Use sudo or su and run it as root?
[05:43] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: i configure nagios ,in that it is showing ofr diskspace,permission denied
[05:44] <Guest98103> matthewvz: i done root and chmod +r
[05:44] <Guest98103> both
[05:44] <dr_willis_>   .gvfs us a special virtual filesyste.
[05:44] <dr_willis_> best to not just be slapping chmods on it
[05:44] <matthewvz> ^
[05:44] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: what else to do
[05:45] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: my nagios is shwoing my disk space critical
[05:45] <dr_willis_> tell nagios to ignore gvfs
[05:48] <nearst> :D
[05:48] <histo> :(
[05:49] <dr_willis_> B-)
[05:49] <lasers> >:}~
[05:49] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: i need then how i can view my disk space
[05:49] <nearst> df -h
[05:49] <histo> df
[05:50] <dr_willis_> .gvfs is not the space you are looking for...  i imagine.
[05:51] <dr_willis_> i just rightclick --> Properies.. in the file manager  nirmally..
[05:52] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: let me do
[05:53] <histo> these are not the droids your are looking for...
[05:53] <tech-mike> ...your jedi mind tricks do not work on me
[05:53] <nearst> adb devices
[05:53] <histo> What about adb?
[05:53] <histo> You down with adb
[05:54] <histo> I've never seen this room so slow wow.
[05:54] <areume> glad to see im not the only one who felt the urge to post that quote over that statment
[05:54] <dr_willis_>  topic stick to. you will...
[05:54] <histo> sorry just boredom.
[05:55] <Improv> If I have one of those funky 2-video-card laptops, is there a good way to figure out which one is active right now?
[05:56] <histo> Improv: The intel is unless you tell it to activate the nvidia explicitly
[05:56] <histo> or ati
[05:56] <nearst> Improv, ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[05:56] <Improv> nearst: I have no such thing.
[05:57] <Improv> histo: Interesting. I'm trying to get GLX apps to stop stop segfaulting, and I imagine it might be related to the 2-video-card oddity.
[05:57] <RJ_> well i have a 7 pc and a micro itx (hdd bricked) on my hdtv - all i want to do with my itx is have xbmc on it and have it share internet to my 7pc i have a spare 2gb flash drive but thats it i can run it live but i cant get it to wake up properly . any ideas ....Ubuntu Server? :)
[05:57] <Improv> histo: Maybe removing all the ATI stuff will make things start working?
[05:58] <nearst> Improv, look for hybridgraphic wiki
[05:59] <Improv> nearst: Ok, thanks
[05:59] <dr_willis_> RJ_: why hbernate at all? i leave my xbmc box on all day
[05:59] <nearst> Improv, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[06:00] <RJ_> ???? i dont want it to run 24-7 ???? make it last longer???
[06:00] <dr_willis_> sorry to many? ??? marks....
[06:00] <RJ_> things are tight now and i would cry if my itx gave out on me
[06:01] <dr_willis_> hibernate dosent work with all hardware.
[06:02] <kepler> it is also probably more work for the machine to hibernate and come out of it -- if you're using it every day
[06:02] <histo> RJ_: YOu can't hibernate without swap
[06:02] <histo> RJ_: You want to suspend not hibernate
[06:02]  * Improv stares at grub2's intimidating config hierarchy
[06:03] <dr_willis_> intimidating? never noticed...
[06:03] <dr_willis_> ;-)
[06:03] <Improv> dr_willis: I'm used to grub1. Trying to figure out how to add params to the kernel to boot
[06:03] <dr_willis_> Improv:  /etc/default/grub
[06:03] <histo> Improv: edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo update-grub
[06:04] <Improv> Oh. That's much nicer.
[06:04] <nearst> 'e' at grub menu
[06:04] <lasers> RJ_: My XBMC shut down when it's not in use for 15 minutes. (Living room)
[06:04] <dr_willis_> the    quiet splash line.....
[06:04] <Improv> Was looking in /etc/grub.d/ and that was freaky stuff.
[06:04] <histo> RJ_: How are you putting the machine to sleep?
[06:04] <dr_willis_> grub.d is very straight forward.. and rarely needs edited
[06:05] <dr_willis_> just bash scripts
[06:05] <agrestringere_> Just a quick and random question, I have this strange VIM issue.  I have vim-gnome installed on a work computer running Ubuntu and there's this weird screen corruption thing where the fonts get corrupted and I am unable to use VIM.  However, everything works fine when running VIM in Terminal.  Should I switch that out to vim-gtk or vim-athena?
[06:06] <fluvvell> i have removed all non standard sources from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and read many forums, but I still find that do-release-upgrade will not offer a path from 10.04.4 to 12.04 on my laptop
[06:06] <nearst> any vim different between gtk and terminal ?
[06:06] <Cub> hey dr_willis  you know if there is a way to install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 12.10?
[06:06] <dr_willis_> Cub:  the old kde? doubtfull.
[06:06] <fluvvell> who is the go-to guy/girl for do-release-upgrade fix ups?
[06:07] <nearst> fluvvell, check either normal/lts at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrade and do sudo do-release-upgrade -c
[06:07] <Cub> aww i dont liike plasma :\
[06:07] <fluvvell> nearst; yes have checked that already, its set to lts
[06:08] <dr_willis_> kde4 works well for me. for the little ive used it
[06:08] <dr_willis_> cub check out that qt-razer or razor project
[06:09] <Cub> ok i will do that..
[06:09] <fluvvell> nearst, and the ever continuing response is No new release found
[06:09] <Cub> i tried installing trinity desktop and wouldnt work..
[06:10] <dr_willis_> "its dead jim!"
[06:10] <fluvvell> its a pity that do-release-upgrade doesn't have a debug output where you can see more from the script
[06:10] <nearst> fluvvell, http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts
[06:11] <magnum> hello
[06:11] <thirumal> gkfmd
[06:12] <thirumal> hello
[06:12] <nearst> !ask
[06:12] <thirumal> hello mynotes
[06:12] <Cub> another question, would it be worth it to install synaptic on ubuntu 12.10 ? If so how would i go about doing this?
[06:12] <Ben64> Cub: search the software center for it
[06:13] <nearst> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:13] <fluvvell> nearst, read that - only thing I havn't tried yet is disk in the drive, will try it now.
[06:14] <Cub> ty
[06:15] <Bon-chan> guys, how can i properly install java in firefox? i have some java when i try about:plugins but im still having problems with some pages
[06:16] <serp_> !patience
[06:16] <dr_willis_> hmm. I just follow the !java factoid wiki page
[06:16] <nearst> Bon-chan, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:16] <dr_willis_> but flash is not java.. ;)
[06:17] <dr_willis_> !java
[06:17] <Bon-chan> but how would i know witch one to install?
[06:18] <dr_willis_> flip a coin? use the one in the repos.. the iced tea one perhaps.. unless you lkmnow you need the others
[06:18] <serp_> you need jre
[06:18] <bcbc2> quit
[06:18] <Bon-chan> well, with a java -version i got this:
[06:18] <Bon-chan> java version "1.6.0_24"
[06:18] <Bon-chan> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.5) (6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~12.04.1)
[06:18] <Bon-chan> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
[06:18] <dr_willis_> theres a java-plugin package also i belive
[06:18] <elena-IK> Problem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. The fact that the problem is with the circumflex key makes me think of a keyboard layout related problem. I'm using de nodeadkeys. Any ideas?
[06:19] <dr_willis_> elena-IK:  make a new user. see if the issue also affects them perhaps? if it affexts all users.. that would point to a odd system setting quirk/bug.
[06:20] <dr_willis_> if the new user works properly.. that points  to a setting/ownership issue with the problem user
[06:20] <elena-IK> ok
[06:22] <pianojake> hi i have a question regarding mouse capabilities. It was available at one point but not anymore. its when i move my mouse into the top right corner it would bring all the windows into one screen to be able to choose which one to use. what happened to that?
[06:23] <Cub> pianojake, what desktop environment is that and what version of ubuntu?
[06:24] <hpuser4466> LCD dims for a split second and goes normal again. Happens every so often.  Any ideas how to fix?  Dell D600
[06:24] <pianojake> Cub 12.04 lts and the stock, unity i guess
[06:25] <Cub> not sure on unity, i use gnome-shell and it has a hotspot on the upper left corner..
[06:26] <pianojake> it also used to bring the desktop up when i moved it into the top right corner
[06:27] <bazhang> pianojake, gnome-shell does that with the top left
[06:27] <Cub> pianojake,  check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/101310/show-all-running-windows-when-moving-mouse-pointer-to-top-left-corner-hotspot
[06:27] <pianojake> bazhang what other choices of launchers are there?
[06:27] <pianojake> Cub thanks
[06:29] <dr_willis_> the compiz expose function shows all windows in a spread out view i belive
[06:30] <dr_willis_> theres numerous compiz features that are not enabled by default.
[06:30] <dr_willis_> !ccsm
[06:34] <hpuser4466> I'm using kernel boot option "nomodeset" and after a reboot the screen resolution keeps changing.  How do i keep my resolution at 1280x960?
[06:35] <dr_willis_> whats your video chipset?
[06:35] <dr_willis_> and what is the res changeing to?
[06:36] <hpuser4466> dr_willis: radeon RV250 Mobility FireFL 9000
[06:36] <hpuser4466> Dell inspiron D600
[06:36] <dr_willis_> you using the radeon drivers or the fglrx drivers?
[06:37] <hpuser4466> resolution changing to 1400x1050 by default each boot.   lsmod says i'm using radeon driver.
[06:40] <hpuser4466> what's the console command to set resolution. I'll add that to a bootup script.
[06:40] <dr_willis_> so the monitor cant handle that res? or is that the native res for the montor?
[06:41] <dr_willis_> the monitors/display tool is supposed to allow each user to set their own desktop res also. thats saved
[06:41] <hpuser4466> Yes the monitor handles all resolutions fine, except i'm having a problem with the screen blinking/diming every so often. Possibly a hardware fault, but i'm trying to eliminate any possible software causes.
[06:41] <tasslehoff> What is the default greeter-session in lightdm.conf on 12.10. I went from lightdm to gdm, but when I try to go back I get the "low graphics mode" on every boot.
[06:42] <tasslehoff> the system thinks it will only manage low graphics, but it works just fine...
[06:43] <dr_willis_> bbl
[06:43] <nearst> xrandr -q
[06:43] <apk508> I am using Dell Inspiron 1501, so I have to use extra command: nomodeset
[06:51] <Phryq> is there a way to make Ubuntu connect to the internet using both a wireless and wired connection at the same time?
[06:51] <Phryq> For more speed?
[06:55] <vedic> I have my server located at remote place. I would need to take real time backup of data coming to that server as another server at another location would need that. Is it good to use OpenVPN and then do rsync? or rsync itself is good enough. Security is important as it is customer's sensitive data. Also, for regular maintainance is it advice to use OpenVPN compared to ssh?
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> Phryq: let's say your router can do 100mbps through eth, are you really getting so much from your isp that 100mbps is not enough?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> vedic, perhaps ask this query in #ubuntu-server ???
[06:56] <webman_> openvpn provides an encrypted connection, so does ssh, not much difference IMHO
[06:57] <SuperLag> well... the VPN may slow things down a bit
[06:57] <SuperLag> yet another layer to work through
[06:57] <elena-IK> dr_willis: affects all users, but somehow autologin affects the problem. I disabled autologin for testing, the keybinding worked fine for both users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keybinding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works.
[06:58] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I am trying to boot Kubuntu 12.10 in Uefi mode and it shows the grub screen but hangs on a black screen when booting. Same issue with secureboot on or off
[06:58] <PrincessLuna> System is a Lenovo Thinkpad
[06:58] <SuperLag> vedic: it depends on your level of concern. If security is of the utmost concert, do both.
[06:58] <vedic> SuperLag: Data is not large. Its audio files (around 30 audios/minutes coming to server) and each file is just 100KB
[06:59] <SuperLag> vedic: if it's just audio, I'd do SSH.
[06:59] <SuperLag> vedic: use public keys, and lock SSH down. Disable password authentication.
[06:59] <SuperLag> vedic: then you can use cron jobs to automate your backups
[07:00] <vedic> SuperLag: I see. You mean, using public/private keys and rsync in ssh mode?
[07:00] <SuperLag> vedic: yes, sir
[07:00] <vedic> SuperLag: Data needs to be transferred in real time
[07:00] <SuperLag> vedic: in real-time?
[07:01] <SuperLag> vedic: why the need for real-time transfers?
[07:01] <vedic> SuperLag: The moment an audio arrives, it should be sent to another server immediately. Faster the better
[07:01] <SuperLag> vedic: okay... but why?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|PrincessLuna,
[07:02] <SuperLag> vedic: is this for phone calls, where you need MTA-like responsiveness?
[07:02] <SuperLag> vedic: like... are these voicemail messages or something like that?
[07:03] <vedic> SuperLag: Second server does assembling of audio files (100 Kbs are attached in order) and sends it to third party.
[07:03] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Shouldn't I assume Intel 4000 HD should work?
[07:03] <SuperLag> vedic: in that case, you may want to do a hard-coded VPN connection... that'll be done at the router level, more than likely.
[07:04] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: If booting in legacy mode it works
[07:04] <vedic> SuperLag: Why VPN? can't it be done using ssh + rsync?
[07:04] <vedic> as you suggested
[07:04] <SuperLag> vedic: real-time
[07:04] <SuperLag> vedic: transferring files will not be real-time
[07:05] <SuperLag> I mean, even over a VPN, there will be *some* delay
[07:05] <lasers> Very SuperLag
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> why not just stream instead of copying?
[07:06] <vedic> SuperLag: At max 5 sec of waiting is allowed but more will be observed by the third party
[07:06] <SuperLag> 5 seconds is not real-time
[07:06] <vedic> SuperLag: How about drdb?
[07:06] <Zoop> Hello, I am having a problem with stopping MySQL from a Cron job.  I think it might be related to connections that are still connect.  Although running the stop script manually will work.
[07:06] <SuperLag> vedic: your process is going to generate the file, it will be written to the drive, then you have to initate the process of running your rsync, then an SSH session gets opened, file gets copied over, bits are probably checked in the process, session closed... on to the next audio file, lather, rinse, repeat
[07:07] <vedic> SuperLag: Hmm...
[07:07] <SuperLag> vedic: I don't know what drdb is
[07:08] <mgolisch> its a block device replication thing
[07:08] <SuperLag> vedic: if you have a good connection from point A to point B... and the files are 100K max... this very well could be done in <= 5 seconds. However, that is not real-time.
[07:08] <mgolisch> it basicaly allow for a block device to be replicated over a network connection
[07:08] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, assumptions ... well .... try nomodeset to get in.  then do your settings....
[07:09] <SuperLag> vedic: try SSH, see if it works. If it does, cheap solution. :)
[07:09] <SuperLag> vedic: that said... I'd do key-only, and disable password authentication.
[07:10] <SuperLag> vedic: that will keep dictionary attackers out
[07:10] <vedic> SuperLag: yea, that would be good
[07:10] <SuperLag> vedic: there are more than likely a whole bunch of other things you should do to secure those systems... but I'm not a security expert.
[07:12] <vedic> SuperLag: yea, I understand the security will be a concern
[07:13] <sxa> Sup everyone
[07:14] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Tried, same issue
[07:15] <Raviteja> hi
[07:15] <p201> SuperLag, please, tell more about why VPN is better for real-time backup?
[07:16] <Zoop> Interesting.  So the upstart code seems not to wait for the app to die.  from a cron job anyway.
[07:16] <Zoop> commandline it will wait for it.
[07:19] <lost_RD> Hey guys, looking for some basic tech support regarding JVM
[07:19] <Halite> The battery sensor is really accurate.
[07:20] <Halite> Energy when full is 11.3, but Energy (design) is 43.2!
[07:20] <Raviteja> Hi My name is RaviTeja. I have a query..Could anyone please help... I had installed ubuntu 12.04 64-bit desktop edition in a machine. The hardware configuration of the machine is its a HP manufacture with, i5 processor 4 GB RAM and 250-GB Hard-disk. I installed lamp-stack in the machine and configured mysql database. This is for an local office purpose and a survey form is included in the document root of the apache. it will have at
[07:21] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, IDK what it could be.  Assuming you have a good iso (md5um, right?) the inconsistent boot is confusing.  please stay in channel and ask again
[07:22] <Raviteja> Now the question is is there any limit for concurrent connections for the machine? If so, how do i increase the concurrent connections?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> Raviteja, might be a good question for #ubuntu-server ...
[07:22] <Halite> Why can't I hibernate
[07:23] <cfhowlett> !swap|Halite,
[07:23] <lost_RD> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.
[07:23] <lost_RD> Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.
[07:23] <lost_RD> fatal error: A process has ended with a probable error condition: process ended with exit code 1.
[07:23] <sxa> Raviteja,isnt it limited by the channel width? By default i mean
[07:25] <lost_RD> Anybody?
[07:26] <Zoop> lost_RD: You might give us a little information.
[07:26] <cfhowlett> lost_RD, perhaps ask in #java channel ...
[07:26] <Zoop> Looks like the old windows general protection fault. ;)
[07:26] <Raviteja> Hi sxa, Actually our band-width is about 30 mbps..I hope it would be sufficient for accessing. Please correct me if i were wrong..
[07:26] <Zoop> So If I change an upstart .conf file is there something I have to do to have the system start using that?
[07:27] <lost_RD> cfhowlett: I'll try there first and come back if need be
[07:27] <Zoop> lost_RD: What is the program?
[07:27] <lost_RD> Zoop: Just hoping somebody recognises the error
[07:27] <Halite> err
[07:27] <Zoop> lost_RD: It is too generic I don't think anyone will know.
[07:27] <lost_RD> Zoop: It's a wrapper for a server, I don't know how the wrapper executes Java
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Halite, have you enabled swap?  no swap = no hibernate
[07:27] <Zoop> lost_RD: What are you running to get the error?
[07:28] <Zoop> What server?
[07:28] <AlbertoC1196> Hello n.n
[07:28] <Halite> cfhowlett, I don't have a physical disk
[07:28] <lost_RD> Zoop: Non-vanilla Minecraft
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Halite, so it's virtual?
[07:28] <Zoop> Ah.
[07:28] <lost_RD> Zoop: Don't judge!
[07:29] <Halite> cfhowlett, I haven't swapped yet, because I don't know my RAM etc. yet
[07:29] <Zoop> ahha, I'm not it just makes more sense.
[07:29] <Zoop> I had the same problem trying to run older versions.  I could never get it to work right.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Halite, ...
[07:29] <nearst> greetings
[07:29] <lost_RD> I'll see what #java has to say
[07:29] <tad-pole> and salutations
[07:29] <Zoop> I think there is some other program out there that is suppose to be able to start older versions.  I never got it going though.
[07:29] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I am trying to boot Kubuntu 12.10 in Uefi mode and it shows the grub screen but hangs on a black screen when booting. Same issue with secureboot on or off.
[07:29] <Zoop> Good luck.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> nearst, greetings again
[07:30] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, what hardware are you on?
[07:30] <nearst> cfhowlett, ty
[07:30] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Lenovo Thinkpad s230u
[07:30] <lolmaus> What is the recommended way of uploading files to Amazon Glacier via console?
[07:30] <kepler> lost_RD: try opening terminal and /usr/bin/javaws /path/to/minecraft
[07:31] <Halite> ooh, Minecraft in Ubuntu.
[07:31] <nearst> http://www.wikihow.com/Play-Minecraft-in-Ubuntu
[07:31] <joshlegs> lots of peeps up in here
[07:31] <lost_RD> kepler: Java Web Start splash screen process exiting ..... Splash: X11 connection failed: No such file or directory
[07:32] <kepler> its broke!
[07:32] <lost_RD> kepler: I'm running server 12.04, is it trying to execute a desktop variant of Java?
[07:32] <kepler> no idea. i thought you wanted to play, not be a server
[07:33] <nearst> java -jar minecraft.jar?
[07:33] <Myrtti> lost_RD: there is no separate versions of Java for server and desktop
[07:33] <Halite> kepler, that's just the verion of Ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:33] <Halite> java -jar file
[07:33] <Halite> that works with every .jar file
[07:35] <lost_RD> Halite: That worked. Must be the wrapper failing. Thanks!
[07:35] <lost_RD> and nearst, thanks
[07:35] <nearst> lost_RD, supposely it worked on every jar file
[07:37] <Zoop> lost_RD: you have the right classpath set?
[07:37] <lost_RD> Myrtti: I tried OpenJDK which didn't work so added a repo to install Sun Java. At that point I didn't know what I was downloading.
[07:37] <Zoop> I guess it is a jar so maybe try specifying it with -jar /path/to/file.jar
[07:37] <Zoop> soemthing like that
[07:37] <Zoop> I still never got it to work right.
[07:37] <Zoop> it would always look for the ~/.minecraft/something/.jar file.
[07:38] <lost_RD> Zoop: Erm, possibly not. I've done a little classpath stuff in Windows, making "java" point to the executable
[07:39] <lost_RD> But java -jar worked so that must not be the problem
[07:39] <Zoop> lost_RD: do you have a .minecraft dir?
[07:39] <aguuu> Hello. I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE on virtualbox. Installed vbox additions, and can share clipboard, etc. But I cannot get the automatic screen resolution resizing from guest to host. Any ideas?
[07:39] <shingi> Hey
[07:39] <shingi> Im neew to linux
[07:39] <lost_RD> Zoop: No, not required for servers
[07:39] <Zoop> ah
[07:39] <shingi> new to ubanta
[07:39] <Zoop> lost_RD: This an older version of the server you are trying to run?
[07:40] <lost_RD> shingi: You may want to try #ubanta then
[07:40] <krypto> hey is there a way to differentiate  minimal VM and Normal? uname -a is showing same kernel info ,is there any other way?
[07:40] <shingi> lost rd, what do you mean? :)
[07:40] <lost_RD> Zoop: Current version of MC, Ubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <shingi> Im trying #ubanta right nwo
[07:40] <shingi> Im on it now, and im likeing it :)
[07:41] <lost_RD> shingi: This is #ubuntu, not #ubanta
[07:41] <aguuu> Hello. I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE on virtualbox. Installed vbox additions, and can share clipboard, etc. But I cannot get the automatic screen resolution resizing from guest to host. Any ideas?
[07:41] <Zoop> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
[07:41] <Zoop> that is the command I use to start my server.
[07:41] <shingi> guys
[07:41] <shingi> how do i create like
[07:41] <flintser> how to minecraft: install java, download minecraft, set +x to minecraft.jar, if you want to open it from desktop just right-click -> open with openjdk, if you want to launch it from terminal, type java -jar /path/to/minecraft.jar
[07:41] <cfhowlett> aguuu, after installing guest additions, logout, login
[07:41] <shingi> a shortcut to open a program
[07:41] <shingi> e.g open firefox = ctr + i
[07:42] <shingi> how do i do that?
[07:42] <flintser> !enter | shingi
[07:43] <shingi> guys, how do i create like a shortcut to open firefox  E.g to open firefox i press ctr + F
[07:44] <shingi>  guys, how do i create like a shortcut to open firefox  E.g to open firefox i press ctr + F
[07:44] <Zoop> wow
[07:44] <flintser> !patience | sshingi
[07:44] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Apparently working after a bios update but only with secure boot off. Should this matter?
[07:45] <flintser> system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[07:45] <flintser> shingi: ^
[07:45] <shingi>  thanks flintser!
[07:45] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, if it works, run with it and good luck.
[07:45] <aguuu> does anybody here use linux as their main OS?
[07:45] <aguuu> it's impossible for me
[07:46] <Zoop> Give up.
[07:46] <Zoop> ;p
[07:46] <shingi> i use linux as main Os, windows sucks
[07:46] <kepler> i do.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !anybody|aguuu
[07:46]  * cfhowlett lets' see, ubuntu support channel, several thousand onoin
[07:46] <aguuu> ok. Who uses linux as their main os here?
[07:46] <kepler> see channel list >
[07:46] <somsip> !poll | aguuu
[07:46] <Zoop> What does it matter?
[07:46] <broknbottle> who doesn't?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> aguuu, that's not a support question ...
[07:48] <shingi> how to you open website link in termnial? :)
[07:48] <Fuzzles> if i duel boot ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 how do i fix boot when i remove 13.04?
[07:48] <dominic_> aguuu, just ask your real question..i'm pretty sure people around here can answer it
[07:48] <linda666> hi, my laptop keeps hanging while playing a video in browser (youtube, streaming online, etc.). it gets totally frozen and i have to shut it down ugly by pressing power button what possibly could be the cause of this?
[07:48] <webman_> shingi: you can use wget, curl, or lynx or links....
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, much MUCH easier to run your test repos in virtualbox ...
[07:49] <cfhowlett> linda666, try a different browser ...
[07:49] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, how do i get it to run smoothly then?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> linda666, cause: flash?
[07:49] <linda666> happens in chrome, firefox, opera, ...
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, smoothly?  explain more
[07:50] <cfhowlett> linda666, have you got the restricted extras installed?
[07:50] <linda666> cfhowleft, not sure, trying to lookup logs. feels like a kernel panic
[07:50] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, with good performance
[07:50] <flintser> Fuzzles: for smoother graphics install guest additions and allow more of your graphics card to vm
[07:50] <linda666> proprietary drivers, yes. but mostly was for NIC as i remember
[07:51] <Fuzzles> flintser, ok thanks
[07:52] <cfhowlett> linda666, I suggest sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras     on the chance that you might still need some codecs ...
[07:52] <vedic> Why DSA is limited to 1024 on ubuntu? in FIPS 183-3, it is mentioned that it can go upto 3072
[07:52] <muk> linda666, right click on a flash window and disable hardware acceleration
[07:52] <shinao1> Hi! I tried to enable desktop on a remote 11.10 ubuntuserver machine but that ended badly. now I'm told that the virtual logins dont show when the server is fully booted up and there is no linux admin there. Please is there a way to (1) check that the virtual terminals are up remotely and (2)  totally remove all desktop packages?
[07:53] <shinao1> by up i mean that they can see the login prompt
[07:53] <dydzEz2> does ubuntu gnome remix include classic gnome
[07:54] <cfhowlett> dydzEz2, remix isn't supported here ...
[07:54] <dydzEz2> oh ok
[07:54] <roger_> besides emailing the webhost of a site that is phishing, is there anything else that can be done?
[07:54] <dydzEz2> might as well just get gnome 3 str8 up on regular ubuntu
[07:55] <krypto> is there a way to differentiate  minimal VM and Normal installation? uname -a is showing same kernel info ,is there any other way?
[07:56] <stroodlepup> how do i fix the hotspot in my installation?>
[07:56] <histo> krypto: What do you mean by "normal" install?
[07:57] <histo> krypto: Are you trying to determine if it's installed on a VM or actual hardware?
[07:57] <krypto> histo: with all packages
[07:57] <krypto> no
[07:57] <krypto> i want to install it as vm
[07:58] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, you mean you can't get on wifi?
[07:58] <krypto> we can select minimal vm,minmal os,Normal
[07:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings
[07:58] <stroodlepup> I tried setting up a wifi hotspot,, it worked once, but it does not work anymore
[07:59] <krypto> histo: i choose minimal vm but i am not able to feel any difference even kernel is similar
[07:59] <cfhowlett> !ics|stroodlepup,
[07:59] <stroodlepup> it's to tablet
[08:00] <histo> krypto: What do you mean you chose minimal vm?
[08:01] <krypto> while installing ubuntu from cd i cliked F4 and choose Modes> there we have 4 options,Normal,Install  a Minimal system,Install a Minimal VM
[08:01] <krypto> histo: i chose Install Minimal VM
[08:02] <stroodlepup> i meant 'setting up a hotspot' a la connectify
[08:02] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, you're RUNNING a hotspot from a tablet?  color me impressed?
[08:02] <stroodlepup> no
[08:02] <krypto> histo: i want to verify the difference b/w normal and minimal vm.
[08:02] <histo> krypto: Is this installed on a VM or actual hardware?
[08:02] <linda666> cfhowlet, some stuff has happened on my syslog that doesnt make sence at all...
[08:03] <krypto> hosto: as vm
[08:03] <stroodlepup> from my laptop.... and yes, hotspot apps a re available for android
[08:03] <shinao1> Hi! I tried to enable desktop on a remote 11.10 ubuntuserver machine but that ended badly. now I'm told that the virtual logins dont show when the server is fully booted up and there is no linux admin there. Please is there a way to (1) check that the virtual terminals are up remotely and (2)  totally remove all desktop packages?
[08:03] <histo> krypto: Not familiar with that option
[08:03] <linda666> cfhowlet, here my kernel logs... http://pastebin.com/c60iYDw2 from a standby on 1pm to 3pm wake up and then dead frozen...
[08:03] <roger_> besides emailing the webhost of a site that is phishing, is there anything else that can be done?
[08:04] <krypto> histo: on xen,i want to convert this hvm instance to para virt instance,since 10.04 has no direct support for xen :(
[08:04] <linda666> cfhowlet, i cant understand what are the frequency logs!
[08:04] <krypto> histo: ok :)
[08:04] <stroodlepup>  cfhowlett: i need to connect my laptop to an android tablet using ubuntu's wireless hotspot
[08:04] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, so your mentioning of "tablet" was referring to ???
[08:05] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, anyway, what hotspot admin software are you running?
[08:05] <stroodlepup> ubuntu's default one
[08:05] <stroodlepup> it only worked properly. once
[08:06] <cfhowlett> linda666, love to see them, but for some reason, the great china firewall is blocking pastebin today.  sorry.
[08:07] <linda666> cfhowlet, what else can you open besides pastebin? im getting really sure the error is from NIC actually based on syslogs...
[08:07] <dydzEz2> !grub
[08:07] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, got it.      http://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195
[08:07] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, http://my.oschina.net/banxi/blog/52304
[08:08] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, and www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvnh8TsFEU
[08:08] <cfhowlett> linda666, this firewall thing is so frustrating and unpredictable ...  half the time imgur and everything else is blocked
[08:09] <linda666> cfhowlett, for some reason, i completely understand! :D
[08:10] <cfhowlett> linda666, ask again in this channel.  I'm going to have to pass...
[08:13] <stroodlepup> has anyone here ever tried connectify?
[08:14] <aguuu> sudo apt-get install dropbox Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package dropbox
[08:14] <hillary> how to create a distro
[08:14] <aguuu> why?? I thought installing software on linux was done like this.
[08:15] <iceroot> !info dropbox
[08:15] <iceroot> aguuu: there is no package called "dropbox" in the repos
[08:15] <kepler> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[08:15] <cfhowlett> aguuu, or you could use softwar cente4r
[08:15] <iceroot> aguuu: but yes that is the way to go when there is a package in the repos
[08:15] <aguuu> i don't get it. do i have to install it windows-style?
[08:15] <aguuu> why
[08:15] <cfhowlett> aguuu, repos ...
[08:16] <aguuu> why can't i install it linux-style??
[08:16] <iceroot> aguuu: there is no package called "dropbox" in the repos
[08:16] <cfhowlett> aguuu, because it's not in the repos
[08:16] <iceroot> aguuu: and its not linux-style, its debian/ubuntu style to use apt-get
[08:17] <cfhowlett> aguuu,  in other words, see the line for how to install dropbox and follow the instructions
[08:17] <aguuu> cfhowlett: how is that a good excuse?
[08:17] <iceroot> aguuu: ask dropbox, we are not dropbox and not maintaining it
[08:17] <aguuu> cfhowlett: i'm installing it windows-style now. but what is the point in having no standard way to install software?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> aguuu, not an excuse it's an explanation.  and a server sysop such as yourself is certainly aware that most software has more than one method of installation
[08:17] <yh66g> Does anyone know how to modify yaboot to boot to terminal on ppc ubuntu 12.04.1?
[08:19] <Guest30136> test
[08:19] <cfhowlett> aguuu, for the record, installing .deb packages is a MINIMAL requirement for administering ubuntu sytems ..l
[08:20] <aguuu> cfhowlett: yes. why is there no standard way of installing software on linux?
[08:20] <linda666> cfhowlett, no prob
[08:20] <cfhowlett> aguuu, take it up with dropbox.  read more.  post less
[08:21] <linda666> hi everyone again :D my laptop keeps hanging usually when streaming online in browser, but my logs say something else... here my kernel logs... http://pastebin.com/c60iYDw2 from a standby on 1pm to 3pm wake up and then dead frozen... anyone has any idea for the cause of this?
[08:21] <aguuu> cfhowlett: dropbox is not the exception. there is no point in that.
[08:21] <cfhowlett> aguuu, I suggest you investigate and invest in the LCPI 1 certificate.  ALL such questions will be answered ...
[08:22] <tad-pole> OoO
[08:22] <aguuu> ok
[08:23] <RJ_> sorry guys ,,,storm front knocked the net out......could someone please show me where to find out how to make a script to set up my network automatically (connect to wifi and share net with eth) desktop 12.10 (live mode) please
[08:23] <iceroot> aguuu: could you stop to say "in linux"? 1. linux is just a kernel, 2. the system itself is called GNU/Linux, 3. there are different distros which are managing software-installations on different ways (binary distro, source based distro and so on), 4. not every software is part of the ubuntu-repos
[08:23] <ikonia> RJ_: the network manager tool can o that for you
[08:24] <iceroot> aguuu: and if something is not in the ubuntu-repos there is the way to use a ppa (repo from third party)
[08:24] <iceroot> !ppa | aguuu
[08:24] <aguuu> iceroot: linux is used as a synonym for gnu/linux
[08:24] <iceroot> aguuu: no
[08:24] <iceroot> aguuu: linux is a kernel
[08:24] <RJ_> NMT will google ;)
[08:24] <aguuu> iceroot: as i said, linux is used as a synonym for gnu/linux
[08:25] <iceroot> aguuu: GNU/Linux is a system based on the linux-kernel with a lot of tools from the GNU project
[08:25]  * cfhowlett ... and it begins.  
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !linux|aguuu
[08:25] <dzup> linux is not a real OS
[08:25] <kepler> aguuu is just trolling, ignore him
[08:25] <ikonia> RJ_: you are using Ubuntu correct ?
[08:25]  * cfhowlett concurred
[08:25] <RJ_> desktop 12.10 (live)
[08:26] <RJ_> :)
[08:26] <ikonia> RJ_: ok, there is the gnome-network-manager applet in the top right of your screen
[08:26] <ikonia> RJ_: that can manage your networks for you
[08:26] <ikonia> RJ_: if you look at the network section in https://help.ubuntu.com you can see examples/details
[08:26] <aguuu> iceroot: You should search. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux "The media and common usage, however, refers to this family of operating systems simply as Linux, as do many large Linux distributions (e.g. SUSE Linux and Mandriva Linux). "
[08:26] <ikonia> aguuu: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no
[08:27] <iceroot> aguuu: gnu.org
[08:27] <aguuu> i'm stating facts taken from wikipedia, and you call me a troll? way to mirror yourself on others
[08:27] <ikonia> aguuu: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no
[08:28] <aguuu> ikonia: true
[08:28] <kepler> aguuu: i called you a troll because you're trolling. pasting wikipedia does not change that
[08:28] <ikonia> aguuu: no, do you have an ubuntu question "YES/NO"
[08:28] <ikonia> kepler: drop it please.
[08:29] <samkan> Hi, Need some help on GPL license?
[08:29] <ikonia> samkan: #fsf would be the place
[08:29] <aguuu> kepler: that is false. discussing is not trolling.
[08:29] <samkan> wanted to know can i use GPL license for commercial purpose?
[08:29] <tad-pole> Nice.
[08:29] <iceroot> samkan: #gnu should also be a good idea
[08:30] <ikonia> samkan: #fsf is the place, or #gnu
[08:30] <iceroot> samkan: yes, but please ask in #gnu
[08:30] <samkan> have read GPL faq, also asked on stackoverflow
[08:30] <cfhowlett> aguuu, wikipedia does not = facts.  If you have an actual ubuntu support question, now would be a great time to ask it ...
[08:30] <ikonia> samkan: you seem to be struggling to read this channel, #fsf or #gnu is the channel to ask in
[08:30] <samkan> ok
[08:30] <RJ_> i would like to create a script to auto setup my network -  Is it possible?
[08:30] <tad-pole> I love IRC.
[08:30] <tad-pole> RJ_ Yes.
[08:30] <ikonia> RJ_: I told you what to do earlier
[08:31] <ikonia> RJ_: is there a reason you are not following/using that advice
[08:31] <tad-pole> ikonia: You know the reason. :)
[08:31] <RJ_> sorry total noob on ubuntu
[08:31] <ikonia> RJ_: that doesn't change anything
[08:31] <ikonia> RJ_: I gave you solid information, and you've waited 60 seconds and asked gain
[08:31] <RJ_> ????
[08:32] <ikonia> RJ_: being new does not explain why I gave you the information and required documentation, you've done nothing with it and just asked again
[08:32] <tad-pole> willis!
[08:32] <dr_willis_> moo!
[08:32] <RJ_> sorry i am no techie and your geek lingo is not easy to comprehend
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: what geek lingo
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: I have you a document that explains how to do it for new users
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: I told you the network config applet is in the top right of your screen
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: where is the "geek lingo" in that
[08:33] <RJ_> gnome-network-manager applet
[08:34] <ikonia> RJ_: that is explained in the doucment I gave you and how to use it
[08:34] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?
[08:34] <RJ_> i was looking up gnome-network-manager applet......sorry
[08:34] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?
[08:35] <RJ_> was but heard someone beeping me
[08:35] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?
[08:36] <RJ_> https://help.ubuntu.com?
[08:36] <ikonia> RJ_: yes, the network section
[08:36] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read that ?
[08:36] <RJ_> i have been tryn to lol slow net and pc
[08:36] <ikonia> RJ_: ok - so if you've not read that, why are you asking again ?
[08:37] <ikonia> RJ_: why ask again without reading the page with the information in ?
[08:37] <RJ_> i am trying to be polite and respond when i hear a beep
[08:37] <ikonia> RJ_: no-one spoke to you
[08:38] <ikonia> RJ_: and asking the same question again is not responding, it's just asking the same questin again
[08:38] <ikonia> lets be honest, you just didn't want to read the docs so just asked again in the hope that someone would give you the answer
[08:38] <cfhowlett> RJ_, set your status to "away"
[08:38] <RJ_> ???????
[08:39] <RJ_> noob i am a total noob
[08:39] <cfhowlett> RJ_, no excuse for not reading the supplied resources ...
[08:40] <Gnomex> Hi guys
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Gnomex, greetings
[08:40] <Gnomex> can i ask Something..
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !ask|Gnomex,
[08:40] <RJ_> what resources i am still not finding anything
[08:40] <ikonia> RJ_: where are you looking
[08:41] <Gnomex> Okey.. i got some problem with my Ubuntu 12.04.. when i'm login aroun 10 or minute my lappy stuck.. dunnno why..  can u tell me.. what kind i do with this trouble.. tq
[08:41] <RJ_> i started at https://help.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <ASB_> Hi. Stupid question from someone new to Linux/Ubuntu: If I "sudo apt-get install <package>" a package that is already installed, would that lead to any problems, or would aptitude detect that the package was already installed and just abort installation?
[08:41] <ikonia> RJ_: right, then what did you select
[08:42] <RJ_> 12.10
[08:42] <ikonia> ASB_: it will say "already installed"
[08:42] <fbeaufort> Hello. Does someone know how to tell if a packaged is embedded by default in ubuntu?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> ASB_, It would quit out with "zero installed"
[08:42] <ikonia> RJ_: then what
[08:42] <RJ_> desktop help
[08:42] <ASB_> ikonia, cfhowlett: Ok, thanks a lot!
[08:43] <ikonia> RJ_: then what
[08:43] <Gnomex> hmmm
[08:43] <RJ_> Networking, web, email & chat
[08:44] <cfhowlett> ASB_, no problem
[08:44] <fbeaufort> Hello. Does someone know how to tell if a packaged is embedded by default in ubuntu?
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: then what
[08:44] <ikonia> fbeaufort: embedded ?
[08:44] <RJ_> then ?????
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: then what did you chose
[08:44] <RJ_> none
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: there are 11 options
[08:44] <fbeaufort> +ikonia = installed
[08:44] <fbeaufort> (thanks for answering btw)
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: right, so why have you not gone any further
[08:45] <ikonia> fbeaufort: open the package manager, search for the package and see if it is marked as installed
[08:45] <Gnomex> Hi Guys.. I need some help.. My Problem.. when i'm RUn my Ubuntu 12.04 around 20 minute or 30 my lappy stuck... dunno why..
[08:45] <RJ_> my critera dosent match
[08:45] <cfhowlett> fbeaufort, packages.ubuntu.com   is one place to look
[08:45] <fbeaufort> is there a way to do it from the command line?
[08:45] <fbeaufort> I have only ssh access
[08:46] <PrincessLuna> When I have secure boot on, Kubuntu 12.10 x64 hangs at a black screen after the grub prompt on the live usb itself. Any was to fix this?
[08:46] <fbeaufort> packages.ubuntu.com is perfect!
[08:46] <ikonia> RJ_: really, are you setting up a wired network, or a wireless network
[08:46] <fbeaufort> Thanks +cfhowlett!
[08:46] <RJ_> both
[08:46] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: uh.... don't use secure boot?
[08:47] <Gnomex> any one can tell me..? what kind i do..??
[08:47] <ikonia> RJ_: right, so there is wireless network and wired network settings....how can you say your criteria does not mach
[08:47] <ikonia> match
[08:47] <PrincessLuna> Ben64: Windows 8 only works with UEFI on this computer and I need to dual boot
[08:48] <cfhowlett> fbeaufort, try apt-cache policy package name from the command line
[08:48] <fbeaufort> PERFECT
[08:48] <RJ_> because i need to create a script for automation
[08:48] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: idk then
[08:50] <ikonia> RJ_: right, but you need a script for what, wired network....click wired networking
[08:50] <ikonia> RJ_: apply common sense
[08:52] <RJ_> I dont want to re configure my network every time i restart (live)
[08:52] <ikonia> RJ_: I'm sorry, you seem to be not reading the information
[08:52] <dr_willis_> use a persistant save file?
[08:52] <Kneferilis> hello, I made a user with my root account, I found out that the programs I installed as root are available to the user, the programs the user installs are available to the root user?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Kneferilis, why you root?
[08:53] <RJ_> sorry i dont know what that means
[08:53] <ikonia> RJ_: 1.) dhcp servers will configure every time 2.) persistant settings will need a persistant live setup not a "script" 3.) the gnome-network-manager tool can save settings
[08:53] <ikonia> Kneferilis: there is no root account
[08:53] <ikonia> RJ_: is your network dhcp ?
[08:53] <dr_willis_> Kneferilis: what programs.. installed how?
[08:54] <RJ_> i had to change it to address only ????
[08:54] <ikonia> RJ_: is your network dhcp ?
[08:54] <Kneferilis> dr_willis: programs installed with yum, not by downloading/extracting them
[08:54] <ikonia> Kneferilis: you are not using ubuntu
[08:54] <ikonia> Kneferilis: ubuntu does not use yum
[08:55] <dr_willis_> yum? ubuntu dosent use yum. thats a redhat tool i thought
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !yum|Kneferilis,
[08:55] <RJ_> ???
[08:55] <ikonia> Kneferilis: and you know this, which is why you are asking in #centos also
[08:55] <Kneferilis> ikonia: Well, yes, but I thought the principle would be the same
[08:55] <ikonia> RJ_: does your network give you an IP automatically
[08:55] <ikonia> Kneferilis: no, it's not
[08:55] <ikonia> Kneferilis: this channel supports ubuntu only
[08:55] <RJ_> ????
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Kneferilis, wrong channel.  ask in #centos.  bbye
[08:55] <ikonia> RJ_: it's not a hard question
[08:55] <Kneferilis> ok, sorry about that
[08:56] <ikonia> RJ_: when you login does your network card get an IP address
[08:56] <dr_willis_> Kneferilis: you use the package manager to install aps on the system... not per-user
[08:56] <Kneferilis> ok
[08:56] <Kneferilis> thanks, for the help, I will go to #centos and #linux and continue my questions there
[08:56] <RJ_> maybe if i was a techie i would know i have never used linux ...ubuntu...????? sorry Total noob
[08:57] <ikonia> RJ_: please stop playing the "noob" card
[08:57] <ikonia> RJ_: you obviously know what an IP address is, as you want to use a script to set one
[08:57] <ikonia> RJ_: so it's not a hard question, does your network card get an IP address automatically
[08:57] <RJ_> how do i tell?
[08:58] <ikonia> RJ_: why do you want to configure your network - what's wrong with it
[08:58] <ikonia> RJ_: lets step back to understand the problem
[08:59] <RJ_> 1 min .....,.typing
[09:00] <zetheroo> are the Ubuntu repos down?
[09:00] <zetheroo> or is it just my mirror?
[09:01] <ikonia> zetheroo: just your mirror
[09:05] <RJ_> i have a 7pc and a micro itx connected to my tv ....i used the itx for xbmc.....my 7 dosent have a wifi but the itx does i have a flash drive that i can run ubuntu on but when i try to put ubuntu to sleep it crashes on the login password and the network setup takes about 10 min and i dont want to do it every time i wake er up
[09:06] <RJ_> ...oops reboot
[09:08] <DaemonicApathy> Change the sleep settings.
[09:08] <Osakasa^> RJ_, what if you to system settings -> Brightness and Lock -> lock = OFF
[09:09] <RJ_> it is greyed out
[09:09] <DaemonicApathy> RJ:Osakasa: The important setting is below that: "Require my password..." etc. Uncheck it.
[09:09] <DaemonicApathy> *Osakasa^
[09:10] <savagecroc> hey.. can someone help me out with my grep command.. my regex isin't working
[09:10] <savagecroc> sudo sysctl -a | grep -w '(SHMMAX|SHMMIN|SHMALL|SHMSEG|SHMMNI|SEMMNI|SEMMNS|SEMMSL|SEMMAP|SEMVMX)'
[09:10] <Osakasa^> RJ_, System Settings -> User Accounts -> Automatic Login = on
[09:10] <RJ_> that is grayed out too
[09:11] <histo> ᴚſ‾ Hoʍ ɐɹǝ ʎon dnʇʇıuƃ ıʇ ʇo slǝǝd¿
[09:11] <histo> RJ_: Sorry how are you putting it to sleep?
[09:11] <Osakasa^> RJ_, as DaemonicApathy said, is your "Require my password when waking from suspend" unchecked (Brightness and lock)
[09:12] <histo> !persistent | RJ_
[09:12] <RJ_> suspend........those options are greyed out
[09:13] <DaemonicApathy> RJ_: Why does this sound to me like you're using a LiveUSB on a regular basis?
[09:13] <histo> RJ_: You want a persistent install so your settings are saved on reboot
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Oi pessoal
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Brasil aki
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Alguem é do brasil
[09:14] <dr_willis_> you can do a full install to a big enough usb flash drive
[09:14] <DaemonicApathy> !es|Anon_linux
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Brasil
[09:14] <RJ_> no more hard drives and all i use my itx for is xbmc.......i have my flash drive with yumi on it
[09:15] <Anon_linux> Portugues brasil
[09:15] <Anon_linux> Ola
[09:15] <DaemonicApathy> !pt
[09:15] <Anon_linux> Valew
[09:16] <DaemonicApathy> Forgot Brazil was Portuguese...
[09:18] <RJ_> my flash drive has limited space on it and running live is all i need but i would like to let my itx sleep or power off but it takes like 10 min to manually configure my wifi settings
[09:19] <histo> RJ_: How big of a drive do you have?
[09:19] <RJ_> well its 16 gb but only almost 2 gb free
[09:20] <Guest2000> I need a status update?
[09:20] <Ben64> why does it take 10 minutes to enter a wifi password
[09:20] <dr_willis_> what else do you need the space for. ;-)
[09:20] <DaemonicApathy> Guest2000: You're still online.
[09:20] <carli2> hi
[09:20] <RJ_> i have another 2gb but trying a different install method it said it wanted 8gb
[09:20] <dr_willis_> make a 512 mb save file..
[09:21] <carli2> where is that multitouch support i saw in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vp8_jetKEu8
[09:21] <lundy> how can I didable crash reports in 12.10 ?
[09:22] <dr_willis_> lundy:  askubuntu.com had a giude on disabeling apport  i recall
[09:23] <lundy> ta
[09:23] <RJ_> password takes 5 seconds configuring the rest of the network to work properly takes many steps :)
[09:26] <Ben64> RJ_: maybe you should fix your network then
[09:26] <RJ_> whats wrong with it
[09:26] <dr_willis_> definatly sounds like a broken network to me...
[09:26] <dr_willis_> i get a new wifi device.. takes me perhaps 10 sec.. to enter password.. and dhcp does the rest
[09:26] <Ben64> if it takes more steps to make it "work properly" then something is wrong
[09:27] <dr_willis_> your whold setup sounds... broken
[09:28] <RJ_> well i had to use address only and change the dns server ...it works but why ????
[09:28] <dr_willis_> you have a mini itx pc. booting from a 16gb usb.. thats shomehow doing xbmc. OR running some ubuntu live setup - just to enable network shareing for some other pc?
[09:28] <dr_willis_> i dont see why you are doing half the things you have said you are doing.
[09:31] <amgarching> Hi! What's up with the umask  in ubuntu? A fresh install and I get group write permission for new files like here: -rw-rw-r-- 1 username username    2 Feb 13 10:29 a1
[09:31] <Ben64> amgarching: its a umask, next question
[09:31] <flintser> amgarching: whats up with that? i see nothing
[09:33] <RJ_> its not my network ....i am just using it ....all my problems would vanish if ....i could have a script to go through steps i go through  to "so called" configure my networks. or have ubuntu not have a password on wake up
[09:33] <amgarching> flintser: rw permissions for the group. I alwyas wondered why Ubunut creates a group with a name of the user.
[09:33] <dr_willis_> RJ_:  or if you used a small persistant save file on your live-usb setup to save your settings....
[09:33] <DaemonicApathy> amgarching: To make file sharing easier.
[09:34] <RJ_> sorry i dont know how to do that or what that even means ...sorry
[09:34] <amgarching> but why did the set umask that permissive?
[09:34] <amgarching> *they
[09:34] <dr_willis_> !live
[09:35] <dr_willis_> You can do a live install to usb with a small save file that will save changes to the usb. making it keep settings btween reboots.
[09:35] <RJ_> i cant install it though
[09:35] <kepler> RJ_: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:35] <dr_willis_> most all of the usb-live creater tools can do a persistant save file when you make the usb flash
[09:35] <josvis> Hi folks, any Ubuntu alternative for capturing video&audio from TV-decoder? Can use Pinnacle Studio in Windows (Dual boot) with TV-decoder connected to Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 130 to record video & audio, edit same and burn content to DVD. Want to switch to Ubuntu.
[09:35] <RJ_> i used uui
[09:36] <flintser> RJ_: if you have windows computer at your reach, install LiLi and do ubuntu liveusb with persistent mode so you can save settings to it
[09:36] <dr_willis_> the pendrivelinux site has numerous tools for making live-usb setups
[09:36] <varikonniemi> i have a multimonitor setup and when my computer starts my 2nd (small) monitor initializes immediately, my main screen takes some 2 seconds to change from vga mode to the login graphical mode. This causes the computer to initialize the second monitor as primary
[09:36] <varikonniemi> this causes eg. the wallpaper to be resized to its resolution, also on the primary monitor which is fugly
[09:36] <varikonniemi> how to fix?
[09:37] <flintser> RJ_:or unetbootin for linux machines
[09:37] <varikonniemi> also flash videos on the net maximize fullscreen to the second monitor which is annoying
[09:38] <dr_willis_> ive never seen a multi monitor system decide which monitor is primary based on which one powered up first...
[09:38] <RJ_> i used UUi and put 150 mb of presistents ????? but how do i save my settings?
[09:38] <dr_willis_> varikonniemi:  whats your video chipset?
[09:38] <varikonniemi> i have in nvsettings ticked that the other is primary
[09:38] <varikonniemi> but it still initializes the small monitor first, it even puts the login usernames on there
[09:39] <dr_willis_> varikonniemi:  enable twinview in the nvidia settings tool?  Mine has the login screen on both i recall.
[09:39] <varikonniemi> "make this screen priomary for the x screen"
[09:39] <varikonniemi> and "sync to this display device" both are correctly configured
[09:40] <varikonniemi> no the other shows ubuntu logo, and only names when cursor is moved to that desktop
[09:41] <kepler> swap the cables between the monitors
[09:41] <varikonniemi> the main screen is at port0
[09:41] <dr_willis_> ive noticed some pcs always want to set the vga as the primary by default for the bios and so forth. so it stays that way untill the  nvidia drivers kick in.
[09:41] <varikonniemi> but i could always try..
[09:41] <kepler> you'll find out if that's why, at least
[09:42] <varikonniemi> however the problem is most probably the fact that my main screen is unavailable 2seconds after the display mode changes
[09:42] <kepler> how often does that happen?
[09:42] <varikonniemi> at every mode change
[09:42] <varikonniemi> :
[09:42] <dr_willis_> i would find that doubtfull to be honest...
[09:42] <varikonniemi> D
[09:42] <dr_willis_> you can set the grub menu to be the same mode as your desktop if you wanted to.
[09:43] <varikonniemi> nope
[09:43] <varikonniemi> i can set it be same resolution, but it changes modes anyway
[09:43] <dr_willis_> sounds like your refresh rates are differnt then
[09:43] <varikonniemi> i actually have a custom grub screen with background and 1920*1200/60
[09:44] <varikonniemi> but after that screen it goes to the vga mode, and then to desktop mode
[09:45] <cyb3rjunki3> join/ #irc.abjects.net
[09:47] <landswipe> what is the smallest ubuntu server footprint I can have?
[09:47] <landswipe> i've tried but it seems to be 1GB
[09:47] <landswipe> i was hoping to get it down nice and small
[09:47] <landswipe> 300Mb or so
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !mini|landswipe, start with minimal install, add only the services you need ...
[09:51] <RJ_> ok i am creating the usb now with 100mb presistance ???? .......how do i save the settings ?
[09:52] <dr_willis_> go with 1gb persistance
[09:53] <dr_willis_> And it will get used automatically
[09:53] <RJ_> thats almost whats left on the flash drive ...do it any way?
[09:54] <dr_willis_> What else do you need the space for?
[09:54] <RJ_> idk
[09:55] <dr_willis_> You said it was a 16gb usb..  So what's using the other 12+gb?
[09:56] <landswipe> cfhowlett: yeah I got the 40mb or so file
[09:56] <landswipe> but it downloads a bucket load from the net
[09:56] <RJ_> that 1 has a bunch of tools and a multi boot on it
[09:56] <landswipe> i only add basic server and openssh and the install footprint was 1gb!
[09:58] <dr_willis_> landswipe: and how much was apt cache?
[09:58] <Guest49294> hello , i have an ATI graphic card and intel , when i boot with ubuntu , a black screen appear after loading .. but i can acess with recovery mode after selection reparing package option and continue booting .. any help please
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Guest49294,
[10:03] <zetheroo> how do I change the mirror for the Ubuntu repos?
[10:03] <calwig> whats a good firewall? Firestarter?
[10:03] <kepler> calwig: www.pfsense.org
[10:04] <calwig> kepler, for ubuntu though
[10:04] <kepler> oh
[10:04] <calwig> pfsense rocks yep
[10:04] <Ben64> iptables?
[10:04] <somsip> !ufw | calwig
[10:04] <calwig> that works
[10:05] <calwig> thanks guzs
[10:05] <calwig> ys
[10:06] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, software center settings ...
[10:06] <zetheroo>  cfhowlett: no gui here
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !sources|zetheroo,
[10:07] <calwig> somsip, ufw is great, the less gui as possible the better
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !mirrors|zetheroo,
[10:07] <zetheroo>  cfhowlett: nvm ... I'll just edit the sources.list file
[10:08] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, that'll do it ...
[10:09] <zetheroo> ok, I have changed the sources.list file to reflect the use of the US Ubuntu repo mirrors ... but still not getting anything good with apt-get update
[10:09] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, don't understand ... restate the complete issue ...
[10:09] <zetheroo> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[10:10] <dr_willis_>      not seen anyone else today with mirror issues
[10:10] <zetheroo> getting that for all the sources
[10:10] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, china mirrors are out of reach for me today for some reason
[10:10] <zetheroo> and I can ping 8.8.8.8 from the machine
[10:12] <dr_willis_> is "inrelease"  correct i  that line?
[10:12] <BlackDex> Hello there
[10:12] <BlackDex> My Unity dash keeps getting beheind the windows
[10:12] <cfhowlett> BlackDex, greetings
[10:12] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: dunno ...  I did not put it there
[10:12] <BlackDex> and i know i can do ALT+F2 > unity
[10:12] <BlackDex> but that is just a quick-fix
[10:13] <dr_willis_> check out what a default sources. list looks like
[10:13] <histo> BlackDex: windows key brings up dash
[10:13] <landswipe> dr_willis: what is 'how much was apt-cache' ?
[10:13] <BlackDex> histo: Yes.. beheind the windows, like browser or terminal etc...
[10:14] <BlackDex> it isn't on-top
[10:14] <histo> BlackDex: that's odd what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:14] <BlackDex> z-index is like -1
[10:14] <BlackDex> 12.10
[10:14] <TheGrey_> o/ Can anyone save me with this sound problem? My audio is way tooo low. Everything in my ALSA mixer is set to the highest. My soundcard is HDA intel sb. My audio driver is Realtek ALC892. My asound.rc is: http://pastebin.com/Ed13xVPG ...What can I do to rid this annoying intermittent problem? Is is my sound card? Do I need to add something to modprobe? Thanks
[10:14] <BlackDex> with all updates
[10:14] <histo> BlackDex: How are you getting it to do that?
[10:15] <BlackDex> if i know
[10:15] <BlackDex> i could fix it
[10:16] <histo> BlackDex: unity&disown   int a terminal
[10:16] <histo> BlackDex: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/906231
[10:16] <BlackDex> But just for some reason after a while everything unity is beheind application-windows
[10:16] <BlackDex> ah
[10:16] <histo> BlackDex: did you try unity&disown in a terminal
[10:16] <BlackDex> so no fix yet :(
[10:16] <BlackDex> histo: Yea i know about that
[10:16] <dr_willis_> landswipe:  apt keeps a  cache of everything  i downloads and installs
[10:16] <BlackDex> or just ALT+F2 :_
[10:16] <BlackDex> :)
[10:17] <landswipe> dr_willis: ah i see, how do I work out how much space it is using then?
[10:18] <dr_willis_> its in /var/cache i belive
[10:18] <histo> BlackDex: Looks like a fix was committed
[10:18] <zetheroo> if I change something in the sources.list file do I need to do something else to get the change recognized by apt?
[10:19] <dr_willis_> zetheroo:  apt-get update
[10:19] <landswipe> i just did a fresh install from minimal cd.
[10:19] <BlackDex> just 12 hours ago it seems :)
[10:19] <landswipe> didn't select anything (no basic server, or openssh)
[10:19] <landswipe> 986Mb.
[10:19] <landswipe> is that right?
[10:19] <landswipe> i'm not complaining, that's just what it is i guess
[10:19] <landswipe> i've been working with openwrt and it is tiny
[10:19] <jpds> landswipe: Sounds able right.
[10:20] <histo> landswipe: sudo apt-get clean
[10:20] <landswipe> i can get an image down to like 6mb
[10:20] <landswipe> busybox et al
[10:20] <jpds> landswipe: Only way you're doing to get it smaller is to disable installing recommended packages by default.
[10:20] <landswipe> i see
[10:20] <landswipe> i want to run it on an odroid-y2
[10:20] <landswipe> u2..
[10:20] <histo> landswipe: that's a specific kernel with only modules needed by the routers hardware
[10:20] <dr_willis_> or use a different distro
[10:20] <landswipe> don't have the hardware yet, just looking at how small i can get it
[10:20] <histo> landswipe: You have modules for like every device right now with ubuntu.
[10:21] <nearst> #openwrt
[10:21] <landswipe> i see
[10:21] <landswipe> so very good hardware support out of the box
[10:21] <RJ_> ok guys i have everything configured and working properly ....might i ask kindly .....since i installed a gb of presistance when i go back to "Try ubuntu" it will have all my settings saved :)
[10:21] <histo> landswipe: yes as apposed to only working on routers
[10:21] <landswipe> i see. that's fine :)
[10:21] <landswipe> thanks for the help and clarification!
[10:21] <nearst> RJ_, u can install on vm
[10:22] <dr_willis_> RJ_: change to a custome wallpaper and see....  ut should keep changes
[10:22] <RJ_> no space
[10:22] <histo> landswipe: what's the out put of du /var/cache/apt/
[10:22] <histo> landswipe: what's the out put of du -h /var/cache/apt/
[10:22] <RJ_> well ill give er a reboot and keep my fingers crossed
[10:23] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: I created a whole new sources.list file and did apt-get update but its still coming back at me with :  W: Failed to fetch http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[10:23] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: like its just ignoring the new sources.list file
[10:23] <dr_willis_> you told it to use the ch servers?
[10:24] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: yes
[10:24] <dr_willis_> it failed for all servers?
[10:25] <zetheroo> yes
[10:25] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643241/
[10:25] <dr_willis_> try removeing the  ch.  part as a test
[10:25] <histo> landswipe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space
[10:27] <landswipe> histo: 75Mb
[10:27] <RJ_> humm my screen looks like a jumbled mess??????
[10:27] <jpds> zetheroo: Failing on that is fine, it should ignore it.
[10:29] <histo> landswipe: 75mb what?
[10:31] <silvan> You can get kicked for a too long ping? :/
[10:32] <dr_willis_> a png timeout = a dead client
[10:32] <histo> landswipe: For instance I found 143M of modules for my current running kernel. If you have older kernels installed they are going to take a bunch of space up
[10:32] <mikkel_> i try to change my primary and secondary DNS, when i do this they are simply set as tertiary DNS. What can i do?
[10:33] <RJ_> It worked :) the screen got jumbled up but the try ubuntu came up and after it loaded up (about 3 min) it worked :) thank all of you guys very much ;)
[10:34] <histo> mikkel_: where are you changing it?
[10:34] <marry> Does anyone happen to know what the long during beep may be whilst shutting the system down? I use Ubuntu 12.04 (Mint 13), Motherboard NF7-S. And following question; does anyone know how to get rid of this? Thanks in advance!
[10:34] <mikkel_> i am using the networkmanager gui (i think it's called that)
[10:34] <Ben64> !mint | marry
[10:34] <histo> RJ_: did your wallpaper get saved though?
[10:35] <histo> mikkel_: Are you adding dns servers in there?
[10:35] <RJ_> sorry i wasnt sure how to do it
[10:35] <RJ_> but my eth and wifi got saved :)
[10:35] <mikkel_> yes, i am pretty sure i did correctly as i used a guide
[10:36] <marry> Ubottu: I duel boot, the problem exits in both
[10:36] <histo> mikkel_: which guide?
[10:36] <histo> RJ_: Now try suspending
[10:36] <mikkel_> histo: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
[10:36]  * cfhowlett ... used to duel boot then became a pacifist ...
[10:37] <RJ_> wont that still aks for a password and freeze me?
[10:38] <histo> mikkel_: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:38] <histo> mikkel_: check what your nameservers are there.
[10:39] <mikkel_> there is only 127.0.1.1
[10:40] <histo> mikkel_: okay double check your settings in network manager make sure they saved.
[10:41] <mikkel_> yes they are still there :s
[10:41] <mikkel_> it is very weird
[10:41] <murlidhar> hello all. i am currently using 12.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.10 . i have already downloaded the desktop iso and mounted it. however i am not able to upgrade it. there is no option asking me to upgrade
[10:41] <histo> what is weird?
[10:41] <histo> mikkel_: what is weird?
[10:41] <mikkel_> that they still are there
[10:41] <histo> mikkel_: disconnect and reconnect or restart networking with sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:41] <BlackDex> histo: I just installed the staging unity packages, hopefully this fixed it :)
[10:42] <MonkeyDust>  !upgrade | murlidhar
[10:42] <cfhowlett> murlidhar, normal.  software sources, enable the iso, sudo apt-get update and go
[10:42] <murlidhar> cfhowlett: hmmm
[10:42] <cfhowlett> murlidhar, or boot the iso and do a clean install
[10:44] <histo> !upgrade | murlidhar
[10:44] <murlidhar> histo: i want to upgrade it using the iso
[10:45] <murlidhar> cfhowlett: i don't want a clean install
[10:45] <Ben64> murlidhar: i don't think you can upgrade like that
[10:45] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: changed to US mirrors and it's still the same :  W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[10:45] <murlidhar> cfhowlett: been ages since i did a clean install
[10:45] <murlidhar> Ben64: i have done that before
[10:46] <zetheroo>  dr_willis_: no issue with the CH mirrors on other machines
[10:46] <mikkel_> histo : thanks, it worked :D
[10:46] <murlidhar> Ben64: it usually detects a new upgrade and asks me to upgrade which however in this release it isn't asking.
[10:46] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. Just wondering, how does the most recent Ubuntu release compares with Windows 7 & 8 battery/power management?
[10:46] <zetheroo>  dr_willis_: but I don't know where it's getting the "inrelease" part either
[10:47] <Ben64> murlidhar: why not just use the internet
[10:47] <murlidhar> Ben64: my internet isn't exactly very stable so i download the iso
[10:47] <tingtong> FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK
[10:47] <zetheroo> LOL
[10:48] <cfhowlett> really ?
[10:48] <Rienzilla> lol
[10:48] <zetheroo> tingtong ... Good Bye!!
[10:48] <murlidhar> well tingtong clearly loves ubuntu so he wants do that :)
[10:48] <Ben64> murlidhar: might be able to do it if you boot to the cd
[10:48] <Malsasa_> Hello, whoever has upgrader his KDE to 4.10, how much MB should be downloaded? I have slow connection only. Thanks :D
[10:48] <murlidhar> Ben64: booting the cd will only clean install
[10:48] <Ben64> murlidhar: no...
[10:49] <lukecarrier> why did you kick him?
[10:49] <lukecarrier> he can vent if he wants to, surely?
[10:49] <murlidhar> Ben64: you sure ?
[10:49] <Ben64> murlidhar: check the options on it
[10:49] <murlidhar> hmm
[10:49] <cfhowlett> lukecarrier, no profanity here.  read the rules
[10:49] <k1l_> lukecarrier: dont mind the trolls. carry on with ubuntu support please.
[10:49] <murlidhar> i will now . maybe they have the options
[10:49] <murlidhar> but earlier it wasn't like that before.
[10:50] <lukecarrier> cfhowlett, fair point
[10:50] <Malsasa_> Hello, anybody has upgrader KDE?
[10:50] <Malsasa_> Hello, anybody has upgraded KDE?
[10:50] <dr_willis_> yes Malsasa_
[10:51] <Malsasa_> dr_willis_: yes, how much space MB for download the update from PPA? I have only slow connection...
[10:51] <dr_willis_> no idea
[10:52] <dr_willis_> as much as it took.......
[10:52] <zetheroo> still not able to perform apt-get update successfully ...
[10:52] <Malsasa_> dr_willis_: i need update sizeinfo so i can estimate how long the download...
[10:52] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, what error messages?
[10:52] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: the same as I posted before
[10:53] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643241/
[10:53] <dr_willis_> i have no idea Malsasa_ . run the commands see what size it says
[10:53] <zetheroo> with US or CH mirrors
[10:53] <zetheroo> it's the same
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa_  you have limited bandwith/download speed?
[10:53] <Malsasa_> MonkeyDust: yes yes, i live at Indonesia, small banwidth country...
[10:54] <Malsasa_> dr_willis_: hmmm... thank you...
[10:54] <zetheroo> cfhowlett:I am ssh'ed into the server so we know its on the network .. and I can ping 8.8.8.8 so we know it's online ....
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa_  just under 1GB
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa_  iso size is just under 1GB
[10:55] <Malsasa_> MonkeyDust: hah, 1 GB? Too big for me...
[10:55] <Malsasa_> MonkeyDust: ISO? No, i just wanna upgrade KDE 4.8 to 4.10...
[10:56] <dr_willis_> the apt commands estimatte the sizes i belive
[10:56] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: I just noticed I cannot ping google.com
[10:56] <zetheroo> ping: unknown host google.com
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  if you can ping an ip address, but no url, it's a dns issue
[10:57] <Guest56757> Can anyone help me get sound workin in Lubuntu, please?  Profiler says my sound is  ICH - SiS SI7012
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  can you ping 74.125.132.104 ?
[10:58] <zetheroo> yes
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  there you have it, that's google, so check your dns
[10:58] <zetheroo> DNS on the Ubuntu system?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  yes
[11:00] <zetheroo> ok, I did not know there were DNS settings required ... I setup this machine the same as I setup all our Debian machines ...
[11:00] <histo> !lubuntu | Buzzby
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  correct, normally it's not required, something must have gone wrong
[11:01] <Buzzby> I know what Lubuntu is.  I installed it.  I just don't have sound and would like help if possible to get sound to work.  Please.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, what is that address?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> and what command would identify the address?
[11:01] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: it was also working fine yesterday, then I configured the network bridge interface and setup the VM's running on KVM ... shutdown and came in this morning to find this happening
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  the ip address is google
[11:02] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: is it possible that setting up the network bridge has soemthing to do with it?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  yes, guess so
[11:02] <Buzzby> I apologize.  I am goin to the other channel.
[11:02] <Buzzby> Thank you
[11:03] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust thanks.  what command returns the owner of an ip?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Buzzby, best of luck
[11:03] <Buzzby> Thank you.
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  whois [ip]
[11:04] <Buzzby> After XP I think Microsoft has gone mentally unstable and so I wanna see if I can get used to Linux.
[11:04] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: the resolv.conf file is empty ... is that how it should be? It says "Do not edit this file by hand" ... :P
[11:04] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, arrr!  of course!  who is not enough.  Thanks, man.  I used to know that stuff ...
[11:07] <histo> Buzzby: Why are you using lubuntu?
[11:07] <histo> Buzzby: over ubuntu that is?
[11:07] <nearst> !lubuntu
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  is this useful http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[11:08] <marry> Does anyone happen to know what the long beep could mean during shutting down the system?
[11:09] <histo> marry: pc spkr beep?
[11:09] <marry> histo: yes, comes out of my speakers
[11:09] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: I added 'dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4' to /etc/network/interfaces where the bridge is configured and now its working :D
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  great!
[11:11] <histo> marry: grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf   does that have any output?
[11:13] <marry> histo: no, should I blacklist it? Is this normal behaviour or is the pc trying to tell me something? Does your speakers beep whilst shutting down? Seems rather strange having to blacklist this? This happens only sometimes, not always.
[11:13] <histo> marry: yes if it's not blacklisted it will beep
[11:14] <histo> marry: what version of ubuntu are you runningn?
[11:14] <marry> Run 12.04, but why does it only happen only on some shutdowns and not on others. It's like it happens if computer has been on for a long time then it does it, but not otherwise. Weird?
[11:15] <histo> marry: lsmod | grep pcspkr   is the module loaded?
[11:15] <marry> one sec Hisnameisrobertp
[11:15] <marry> histo: :)\
[11:15] <histo> ɥnɥ
[11:15] <histo> marry: huh?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> wrong tab
[11:16] <marry> histo: one second, loading module
[11:18] <histo> marry: No you are trying to see if the module is loaded
[11:18] <henry3> hey
[11:19] <histo> marry: lsmod | grep pcspkr will tell you if it's loaded
[11:19] <histo> ɥǝuɹʎ3 ɥǝʎ
[11:19] <marry> histo: module not loaded :/
[11:19] <henry3> i installed ubuntu but accidently partitioned my harddrive is there a easy way to remove windows and all my previous stuff
[11:20] <histo> marry: Okay that's not it then if the module isn't loaded. I have no idea what's beeping.
[11:20] <histo> henry3: do you have the install disk or usb still?
[11:21] <henry3> yes i do
[11:21] <zetheroo> is there a command which will install all perl modules? ... just wondering ...
[11:22] <histo> henry3: boot to that and use gparted to remove partition and expand your others etc... just make sure you have a backup incase of a failure.
[11:22] <henry3> will that remove anything i have already saved to ubuntu section of hardrive
[11:23] <histo> zetheroo: are they all named similar where you could do apt-get install some-perl-package-*
[11:23] <histo> henry3: Only if there is a failure of some kind. Like a power failure or crash/lockup or if you do something silly in there and remove the wrong partition.
[11:23] <henry3> ok thanks for the help!
[11:24] <histo> henry3: that's why you backup first
[11:24] <zetheroo> histo: unfortunately it would not seem so to me ... the names are very different
[11:25] <RJ_> guys ....was just about to watch a show and head to bed but i have no audio .......un muted all un auto muted the ???aslmixer .....checked audio settings... i have 3 devices but none of them have audio ...any help would be nice :)
[11:28] <histo> zetheroo: then I can't think of a way unless there is a meta package
[11:28] <histo> !sound | RJ_
[11:31] <RJ_> i am using vlc and i troubleshot with no luck everything seems to be there...hummmm....still reading ;)
[11:31] <TheGrey> o/ I keep getting Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy error when trying to do a speaker test..my alsamixer is turned up to full.. Why is my device busy?
[11:32] <zetheroo> arg, I cannot believe that 12.04 is still using Qemu 1.0 ....
[11:33] <zetheroo> this means Ubuntu will not be replacing Debian on our KVM servers anytime soon :P
[11:33] <devsoul> a
[11:35] <histo> zetheroo: What?
[11:36] <zetheroo> histo :  ?
[11:36] <histo> zetheroo: your qemu comment?
[11:36] <histo> zetheroo: What do you mean ubuntu is still using qemu
[11:36] <zetheroo> histo: Qemu 1.0
[11:37] <zetheroo> histo: it's a very old version
[11:37] <histo> zetheroo: and you think debian has a newer version?
[11:38] <zetheroo> histo, I know it has ... we are using Qemu 1.1.2  ...
[11:38] <scribble> Hi sorry to interrupt, I have this message from trying to use a kernel on a VirtualBox  - -> Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.
[11:38] <histo> !backports | zetheroo
[11:38] <scribble> is that suppose to go in  -- --> /etc/profile
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> !info qemu
[11:39] <zetheroo> what about this: https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/virtualisation/+build/3778829
[11:40] <zetheroo> histo, can I just do a upgrade-distro on this machine?
[11:41] <zetheroo> to get it to quantal
[11:41] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, dist-release ...
[11:41] <zetheroo> ?
[11:41] <histo> zetheroo: I wouldn't run quantal ona  server though
[11:41] <histo> I would just backport qemu
[11:42] <histo> zetheroo: nvm it's not in backports
[11:42] <zetheroo> doh - ok
[11:43] <RJ_> tried to see install sound modules with ....       find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd ...........no such file or directory ...................tried   sudo aplay -1 ...........aplay invalid option
[11:43] <histo> zetheroo: you could always build the current version yourself which is 1.4.0  or 1.2.0 from their site.
[11:43] <histo> RJ_: -l  not -1
[11:43] <histo> RJ_: lowercase L
[11:44] <RJ_> k thanks will try
[11:45] <RJ_> it shows 3 devices which i tried all 3...still no sound
[11:45] <silvan_> test
[11:45] <zetheroo> pity, was hoping to move to Ubuntu :(
[11:45] <silvan_> Works :)
[11:46] <dydzEz2> whats a good tool to just monitor overall network traffic through the terminal on ubuntu
[11:46] <dydzEz2> like tells me what ports i just opened to go to a certain site or somethin
[11:47] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. Just wondering, how does the most recent Ubuntu release compares with Windows 7 & 8 battery/power management?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> dydzEz2  lsof or so
[11:47] <zetheroo> histo: would you not recommend this?  https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/virtualisation/+build/3778829
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> dydzEz2  try lsof -i
[11:49] <dydzEz2> you gotta keep typing lsof -i
[11:49] <dydzEz2> anything good thats like real time
[11:53] <RJ_> everything that seemed relevent worked except -----   find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd   ----- and when i tried to do the apt-get it says ...unable to get package
[11:53] <MoL0ToV> http://pastebin.ca/2313123 how i can find in what package are include all these libs? so i can install missed (required) packages?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> dydzEz2  in a terminal, type apt-cache show snort -- is it useful?
[11:55] <vnc786> i am cloning sda to sdb with dd but can some tell me about bs=??? shuld i keep or not ??
[11:55] <zetheroo> what is a nice clean command for rebooting ?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  sudo shutdown -r now
[11:56] <|nv|s|b|e> sudo reboot
[11:56] <DJones> zetheroo: sudo reboot ?
[11:56] <safridzal> reboot
[11:56] <safridzal> ah, ping time.. slow inet..
[11:56] <dydzEz2> yeah snorts actually quite good
[11:56] <zetheroo> hehe .. ok ... reboot and shutdown -r now ... are they the same?
[11:58] <safridzal> zetheroo: man reboot
[11:58] <safridzal> there's a lot to read there :D
[11:58] <zetheroo> heh
[11:58] <safridzal> and man shutdown
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> hello
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> i have errors while compiling drivers
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/eGiwPVwj
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> can anyone help?
[11:59] <vnc786> any help?? on dd
[12:00] <zetheroo> thing is that when I do 'sudo shutdown -r now' on this system it shutsdown but then does not boot up again .. just remains powered on with flans blowing
[12:00] <dr_willis> installed the build-essential package? Installed the proper headers? ;) 2 common  issues theperfectpunk
[12:00] <dr_willis> vnc786:  use a bs= size yes....
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  the -r means reboot
[12:00] <Guest70747> someone known how crack use bt4??
[12:00] <dr_willis> unless you want really really really slow speeds
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest70747  type /join #backtrack-linux
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> i'll check
[12:00] <dr_willis> Guest70747: better to spend your time learning some real skills.
[12:01] <vnc786> dr_willis: bs=1M what this will do instead of bs=4M
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Guest70400, also BT is not supported here ...
[12:01] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: yes, but the system does not reboot ... it shutsdown and then remains powered on but does not boot back up ... I have to power it off manually and back on again
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  try sudo init 6
[12:02] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: tried that before already ... which is why I was asking for another way to do it
[12:03] <theperfectpunk> i had installed the headers using sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[12:03] <dr_willis> !headers
[12:03] <tata_> hey i have a problem my ubuntu-server tell me add-apt-repository: command not found but I have the package python-software-properties Installs?
[12:04] <zetheroo> how does one check the version of qemu in Ubuntu?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  apt-cache policy qemu
[12:04] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, flying fingers on the keyboard!
[12:04] <theperfectpunk> it says already installed
[12:04] <theperfectpunk> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:04] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:05] <tata_> qemu:
[12:05] <tata_>   Installiert: (keine)
[12:05] <tata_>   Kandidat:    1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.12.10.2
[12:05] <tata_>   Versionstabelle:
[12:05] <tata_>      1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.12.10.2 0
[12:05] <FloodBot1> tata_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:05] <tata_>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/universe i386 Packages
[12:05] <theperfectpunk> dr_willis installed
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest36247  keep it in the channel please
[12:06] <theperfectpunk> ubottu already installed
[12:06] <Guest36247> what
[12:06] <theperfectpunk> any more suggestions?
[12:07] <theperfectpunk> dr_willis?
[12:08] <dr_willis> Not sure what you are compiling exactly. but the headers, and the build-essential package should cover most all you need. Unless you need the actual kernel source tree
[12:15] <Gusteru> hi ! anyone can help me to install sun java please ?
[12:15] <dr_willis> !java
[12:19] <Gusteru> hi ! anyone can help me to install sun java please ??
[12:19] <dr_willis> !java | Gusteru
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest36247  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6
[12:20] <Gusteru> dr_willis:  I want to install Sun Java and not JDK
[12:20] <kingbeast> good morning everyone
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> kingbeast  other timezone
[12:20] <Guest36247> why are you linking me this MonkeyDust Oo
[12:20] <Ben64> Gusteru: you might want to read more
[12:20] <dr_willis> You mean Oracle java?
[12:20] <kingbeast> good day MonkeyDust
[12:20] <dr_willis> and i belive the guides cover all of them
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest36247  wrong tab, it was for Gusteru
[12:20] <Guest36247> oh ok
[12:21] <Gusteru> dr_willis: Sunt Java from www.java.com
[12:21] <dr_willis> Gusteru:  oracle bought sun out some time back.
[12:21] <Ben64> Gusteru: you should really check the link you've been given twice
[12:22] <cfhowlett> kingbeast, greetings
[12:22] <dr_willis> the Iced tea java is in the repos. then theres the official javas from Oracle  you can use.. depending on your needs
[12:22] <Gusteru> dr_willis: thank you !
[12:22] <ivotkl> Good morning everyone.
[12:23] <kingbeast> ivotkl, morning
[12:24] <kingbeast> anyone need some help?
[12:25] <clipper> bitch i trade 10 whips for a spaceship
[12:26] <dr_willis> seems some people are beyond help these days kingbeast  ;)
[12:26] <cfhowlett> clipper, wrong channel ...
[12:26] <kingbeast> dr_willis, would be a good thing!!!
[12:27] <clipper> nope i'm in the right spot, thats just how i say Hi now... u mad O_o
[12:27] <kingbeast> clipper, well then please watch the language
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> clipper invent something appropriate to say hi
[12:28] <clipper> im sorry :( i apologize for my language
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !language|clipper, y
[12:28] <clipper> better?
[12:28] <clipper> i know i knowwwwww i have a poty mouth
[12:29] <clipper> i get ahead of myself
[12:29] <kingbeast> now do you have a quesstion clipper?
[12:29] <clipper> then its like OH SNAPS what just happened here meow
[12:29] <clipper> maybe i do, maybe i dont
[12:29]  * STMelon hmms, was school canceled today?
[12:29] <clipper> maybe you have a question for me is better ?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> clipper  i guess this is not the channel you want or need
[12:29] <kingbeast> no not really, and maybe you will get help maybe you won't
[12:30] <nearst> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:30] <safridzal> im listening....
[12:30] <clipper> is everyone like super cereal here or something, i actually did have a random question but figured i would have some fun on my entrance and you guys are acting like im a black guy on voting day
[12:30] <clipper> oh snaps
[12:30] <clipper> there it goes again
[12:30] <DJones> clipper: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general chat
[12:30] <clipper> Sorry
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> clipper  stop
[12:30] <clipper> Ok question then
[12:31] <superdo> If I want to resize my current ubuntu partition, I have to unmount, but will my system work so?
[12:31] <clipper> Calm down monkey!
[12:31] <cfhowlett> clipper, insincere apology aside, what is your ubuntu question?
[12:31] <clipper> you can demand anything you want, so can I, so you stop
[12:31] <clipper> ok I have an android
[12:31] <clipper> and recently installed ubuntu apps
[12:31] <clipper> are you familiar?
[12:32] <superdo> anybody?
[12:32] <nearst> android use apk . not deb
[12:32] <clipper> yes its an emulator i know this
[12:32] <clipper> im simply asking if anyone here has used these apps on their droids
[12:32] <clipper> as i had questins pertaining to them
[12:32] <clipper> emu, what a silly creature
[12:32] <clipper> gives me a chuckle
[12:33] <cfhowlett> superdo, you want to a live dvd/usb and run gparted from there to resize your hdd
[12:33] <dr_willis> you dont resize a partion/filesystem thats in use superdo
[12:33] <clipper> so?
[12:33] <superdo> thanks guys
[12:34] <dr_willis> If you are using ubuntu in a vm/chroot on android.. you install the debs/package manager as you would a normal install  from what ive seen...
[12:35] <cfhowlett> superdo, have fun, be safe
[12:37] <kingbeast> well just highlight me if needed, I'm going to play some pokerth... :-P
[12:38] <nearst> *play pokerth too. lol
[12:39] <makara> when I mount an iso with archive mounter, what is its path?
[12:40] <nearst> mount
[12:41] <makara> nearst, there's /mnt, but it's empty
[12:42] <screen2342> makara: type "mount" or "cat /proc/mounts" in a terminal
[12:43] <dr_willis> or access its icon with the file manager - and hit ctrl-l to see its path
[12:43] <screen2342> makara: the output of "cat /proc/mounts" should include a line with /dev/loop*
[12:45] <nearst> default mount auto mount place should be on /media
[12:45] <cangrejo> hi
[12:45] <cfhowlett> cangrejo, greetings
[12:46] <makara> dr_willis, ctrl+l gives the address of the iso image
[12:46] <makara> nearst, nothing in /media
[12:46] <raven_> how to split and recombine a 2 gb file into 25 mb pieces?
[12:46] <makara> screen2342, I see many things with mount and cat ...
[12:46] <dr_willis> there should be an entry for the mounted iso at the left side
[12:47] <dr_willis> i just mount the things by hand. ;)
[12:47] <dr_willis> mount | grep loop    may show the proper entry
[12:47] <makara> dr_willis, left side of nautilus. but I need to access from terminal
[12:47] <dr_willis> makara:  so access it from nautilus.. and see what ctrl-l says its path is..
[12:48] <makara> dr_willis, no grep loop
[12:48] <dr_willis> or try the mount | grep loop
[12:48] <nearst> try manual mount
[12:48] <dr_willis> unless the fs archiver gool was using some fuse features.
[12:48] <makara> dr_willis, address is of the iso image
[12:48] <jrib> raven_: look into the "split" command (man split).  Use "cat" to recompose the pieces
[12:48] <dr_willis> and what address is that?
[12:49] <nearst> check on ls -al .gvfs ?
[12:49] <raven_> jrib, ok tnx
[12:49] <makara> dr_willis, archive://file%253A%252F%252F%252Fhome%252Fmar%252FZ6%252FDungeon%252520Keeper%252520Gold%252FDungeonKeeperGold.iso/
[12:49] <makara> :)
[12:49] <dr_willis> so its using a special url then. the archive://
[12:50] <dr_willis> !iso
[12:50] <dr_willis> it should have an entry in .gvfs i belive
[12:51] <makara> screen2342, I've unmounted the iso and mount gives identical output
[12:52] <raven_> what is the command for 7z to split the archive into pieces?
[12:53] <makara> dr_willis, .gvfs, yes
[12:54] <makara> that's it then
[12:55] <screen2342> makara: okay, if it's gvfs i have no idea. i usually mount images by "sudo mount -o loop ..."
[12:56] <dr_willis> if he unmouinted it.. its not  going to be in .gvfs any more. ;)
[12:56] <nearst> screen2342, Archive Mounter mount usually on .gvfs,
[12:56] <makara> dr_willis, ipuditback
[12:57] <dr_willis> i would have allready used the mount command and been done with it by now. ;)
[12:58] <screen2342> nearst: i don't even have gnome installed, just a plain window manager. and i really don't need gui tools to do loop mounts. ymmv.
[12:58] <raven_> what is the command for 7z to split the archive into pieces?
[13:01] <nearst> raven, 7z a -v50M OutputFilename ~/FileFolder
[13:08] <raven_> jrib, is sure cat file* always combines the split files in the right order?
[13:08] <jrib> raven_: you must list them in the right order
[13:09] <raven_> jrib, its aa, ab, ac ..... so its not sure it will be in the right order automatically right?
[13:10] <g16> raven_: * gives alphabetical ordering http://serverfault.com/questions/122737/in-bash-are-wildcard-expansions-guaranteed-to-be-in-order
[13:10] <jrib> raven_: that should get expanded correctly
[13:11] <raven_> jrib, g16 ok sounds good
[13:11] <vnc786> i ran  dd if=/dev/sdb of=/sda bs=1M conv=noerror but now when i am trying to boot it says Disk Read Error
[13:12] <g16> vnc786: should be of=/dev/sda
[13:12] <dr_willis> err you ment /dev/sda right?
[13:12] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:12] <riply> hi all, is there someone here who would be able to help me regarding squid/public proxy? I want to setup a squid proxy accessible via the WAN/www. There are plenty tutorials available, however they all seem to be 'public'. I want to have authentication ie so that when popping in the proxy details into the browser, they are prompted for auth or rejected.
[13:12] <dr_willis> were the 2 hard drives the same size?
[13:12] <vnc786> yes
[13:13] <nearst> riply, http://cpanelforums.net/how-to-install-squid-with-password-authentication-in-ubuntucentosfedoraredhat/
[13:13] <vnc786> dr_willis: sdb(source)=250gb sda(dest)=500gb
[13:14] <dr_willis> see if you can mount the cloned disk.  Ive cloned 8gb usb flash drive installs of ubuntu onto 1+TB internal HDS and booted them befor
[13:14] <dr_willis> used gparted afterwards to resize/use the unallocated space. ;)
[13:14] <riply> nearst, thank you so much man! You're a better googler than I!
[13:15] <vnc786> okay now i have booted systemrescuecd and fdisk -l output says "partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary" and so on
[13:16] <salaet> Hi !
[13:16] <technojabber> Hi
[13:16] <salaet> anybody knows how can use scp command without sudo
[13:17] <jrib> salaet: why do you need sudo?
[13:17] <vnc786> dr_willis: how can i make it bootable ..?
[13:17] <nearst> sudo -i scp
[13:18] <salaet> because I write a script with python that call scp
[13:18] <technojabber> No
[13:18] <salaet> And the permision i forbid
[13:18] <salaet> is forbid
[13:18] <technojabber> Tech me python please
[13:18] <jrib> salaet: well what are you trying to copy?
[13:18] <jrib> technojabber: #python can help you with that
[13:19] <technojabber> OK thank
[13:19] <zetheroo> I am doing apt-get upgrade but am getting a message like "The following packages have been kept back:" with a list of packages there
[13:20] <zetheroo> why are they being "held back"?
[13:20] <salaet> i'm running django+uwsgi and the uwsgi log  accessible: Permission denied.
[13:20] <salaet> Host key verification failed.
[13:20] <jrib> zetheroo: pastebin.  But it's probably kernel packages and so you need to do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:20] <salaet> I change the owner of .pem file and group and I'm becoming crazy with this
[13:20] <jrib> salaet: you keep changing the problem
[13:21] <zetheroo> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643747/
[13:21] <vnc786> what shuld i do now ?
[13:21] <zetheroo> jrib: I want to update libvirt
[13:21] <vnc786> should i make image first and than write that image ???
[13:22] <jrib> zetheroo: so what happens when you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[13:22] <salaet> jrib: it's possible that a service has permissions to run scp?
[13:22] <jrib> salaet: sure, scp is not special
[13:23] <zetheroo> jrib: seems to be working now - thanks
[13:23] <jrib> salaet: you should give more details.  Say exactly what you are calling, how, and as what user.  And pastebin details
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:26] <salaet> I'have a server that perform some mathematical calculations with images... when this mathematical calculations finish , save and I need to upload to amazon ec2.If I use sudo scp -i bla bla I don't have any problem , but when the django+uwsgi runs this  commands I have the problem.
[13:26] <jrib> salaet: well what user is scp being run as?
[13:26] <salaet> I think its beacause uwsgi dosnt have permisions to use .pem file
[13:28] <salaet> now like this "scp -i bla bla" and not run if i use "sudo scp -i bla bla" runs good only in command line but in the script it's not posible but i need to introduce the password of sudo
[13:28] <salaet> sorry for my worst english
[13:29] <Zoooooooo> Hi guys! I'm trying to understand how to better setup a cross-compiler toolchain for armhf. When I installed the cross-compiler from the package /usr/arm-.../lib/ folder was created. I may find all the target libraries there which is nice. But I need to have some additional libs (mesa) to compile my app. How can I install armhf development package (mesa-dev) to make sure that it will be placed into this 'safe' folder (usr/arm-..) 
[13:29] <screen2342> salaet: the message "Host key verification failed." does not refer to permissions of a file to be copied by scp. looks more like scp/ssh prompted for verifying the host key of the ssh server side, which must be answered with "yes".
[13:30] <rvgate> How do i know if my session is using unity or unity-2d
[13:30] <tafsen> Yo guys. Is it possible to change the color of the border you get when you are running split-screens?
[13:31] <tafsen> *in GNU-Screen
[13:32] <screen2342> salaet: so it's important to know if your python script runs scp as the same user as you run scp interactive
[13:32] <usr13> rvgate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171853/how-to-change-from-unity-2d-to-3d
[13:32] <salaet> screen2342:thanks
[13:33] <screen2342> salaet: scp/ssh looks for the cached host key in $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts. so it makes a difference which user runs scp/ssh.
[13:34] <salaet> I'm going to investigate the solution with paramiko module.
[13:35] <screen2342> salaet: sorry, i don't know any python
[13:35] <salaet> don't worry ! thanks for your time
[13:40] <DEac-> hi
[13:42] <DEac-> i've a problem while booting with lvm. it doesn't found my root-lv. /boot is a partition on the first hd and my pv is the hole second disc. if i type vgchange -ae and close shell, it boots clean. but i won't enter vgchange -ae on every boot
[13:44] <mehdi> guys im having problem with sound when i volume up the sound just drops off and come up
[13:45] <usr13> mehdi: alsamixer
[13:45] <mehdi> usr13, wat? is that?
[13:46] <ewook> Heyya. I've forgotten what name a binary got that you run to get the linked dependencies of another binary.
[13:47] <ewook> Anyone got a clue?
[13:47] <cracken> #OpsSchool
[13:48] <zetheroo> anyone know how to see the Qemu emulation version?
[13:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: there is only one version installed
[13:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: it will default to the version you are using
[13:48] <zetheroo> ikonia: but there is a command to check the version ... no?
[13:49] <ikonia> zetheroo: look at the package version
[13:50] <mehdi> usr13, i installed but it doest work?
[13:50] <mehdi> usr13, i installed but it doest work
[13:50] <zetheroo> ikona: ok ... I thought there was a command that gave an output like "QEMU emulator version 1.2.1 (qemu-kvm-1.2.0) "
[13:51] <usr13> mehdi: alsamixer doesn't work?
[13:51] <rocket> I'm still trying to solve that problem i have.
[13:51] <usr13> mehdi: You had to install alsamixer? (Should have already been there.)
[13:51] <technojabber> Any one wanna buy my Nokia n800
[13:52] <rocket> Whenever i update, my computer display acts weird, and the OS hangs.
[13:52] <mehdi> usr13, it just install alsamixergui
[13:52] <usr13> mehdi: Why?
[13:52] <mehdi> usr13, i thought it was the same as u said
[13:54] <ewook> ldd
[13:55] <vsms01> hi I have a production problem with reprepro database. can someone help?
[13:58] <mehdi> can sb tell me about this config http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=58b61231bd0bfa4a90bbc2f442d917ab6abc040f  while i volume up music comes and goes
[14:00] <anne_> hey, I am fixing my mums computer. The printer seems to have gone a bit bonkers - I think I need to perge the print queue using the comand line, can anyone help?
[14:01] <anne_> she is on kubuntu
[14:02] <technojabber> What is a shell
[14:03] <nearst> !shell | technojabber
[14:03] <haitham__> this picture problem http://imagebin.org/246544
[14:03] <theseus> does anyone have the problem where the top of their screen get pixelated or turns black when typing or left alone for a while?
[14:03] <ikonia> haitham__: why is that a problem ?
[14:04] <haitham__> time any program staillion
[14:04] <DJones> haitham__: If you're trying to click the ok button, you need to use the tab key and then the enter key to continue
[14:04] <haitham__> install
[14:04] <anne_> ah
[14:05] <anne_> not for me? ikonia the problem is that the queue is full of this same job over and over again, you cant delete them, it just crashes the printer applet
[14:05] <anne_> not sure what to do
[14:05] <haitham__> ok
[14:06] <haitham__> thank
[14:06] <nearst> sudo system-config-printer-applet ?
[14:07] <anne_> nearst and what will that do?
[14:08] <pdiddles03> Hey everone, I need some help.  I installed ubuntu on my macbook pro, so now my macbook is a triple boot machine  but now, after rebuild the mbr, windows just sits at the starting windows screen
[14:08] <nearst> sudo system-config-printer --show-jobs
[14:09] <marktaff> HI guys
[14:09] <traveller`> hello
[14:09] <anne_> nearst, comand not found :/
[14:09] <traveller`> from where this chat room ?
[14:09] <DJones> traveller`: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[14:10] <traveller`> is it room for chatting or for what
[14:10] <traveller`> what that mean what ubunto mean ?
[14:10] <DJones> !ubuntu | traveller`
[14:10] <anne_> nearst, still comand not found :S
[14:10] <OliveiraBorges> traveller` where are you from ?
[14:10] <marktaff> I dist-upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, but am having errors with openssh-server not configuring properly after being installed.  Any ideas that might help?  Thanks.  See: http://paste.kde.org/670256/
[14:10] <nearst> sudo system-config-printer --debug
[14:10] <traveller`> good
[14:11] <traveller`> where can  i make chatting in this server in which room?
[14:11] <anne_> nearst, system-config-printer: command not found
[14:12] <nearst> usually default ubuntu installation should have that
[14:12] <DJones> !alis | traveller`: I would suggest #defocus that is a general chat channel, or you can use the service bot to search for a channel,
[14:12] <technojabber> Do you have the commands line for zorin is 6
[14:13] <DJones> !zorin | technojabber
[14:13] <technojabber> Zorin is 6
[14:13] <technojabber> 0s 6
[14:13] <DJones> technojabber: Sorry, I thought there was a factoid about zorin, its not supported here, I think they've got their own support channel mentioned on their website
[14:14] <technojabber> Do you know it
[14:14] <DJones> I don't, have a look at their website, it should tell you there
[14:15] <Go-Sub> somebody have ubuntu 12.10 and xchat with ssl ?
[14:16] <Go-Sub> I need a secure chat channel.
[14:16] <nearst> Go-Sub, +Z
[14:17] <Go-Sub> +Z
[14:17] <nearst> Go-Sub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[14:19] <Francuz> Hey everyone, I'm having a little problem with a cronjob I'm trying to set :
[14:19] <Francuz> i'm trying to turn on a program everytime it gets shut down by using onscheduler.sh and putting it in crontab.
[14:19] <Francuz> When i run it manually from /root/ it does not work, when i run it manually from /root/bet / it works, when I run it from crontab it does not work, (even if I add "cd /root/bet/" at the begining of the onscheduler.sh script)
[14:19] <Francuz> crontab : http://www.pastebin.ca/2313408
[14:19] <Francuz> onscheduler.sh : http://www.pastebin.ca/2313409
[14:19] <FloodBot1> Francuz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <jrib> Francuz: your slashes are backwards and "sh" is redundant
[14:22] <jrib> Francuz: also this script seems very fragile.  What happens if you start running other java programs?
[14:22] <SolarisBoy> indeed...
[14:23] <SolarisBoy> a better way to test is not by empty string but by return code as well like grep -q returns 0 if found but 1 if not - in your case you may catch your own grep line though.
[14:23] <Francuz> it works with other java programs, the problem is probably due to the fact that the java is using mostly relative path and no absolute path, but as i am not the one who wrote the java, I don't know how to change it,
[14:23] <YokoBR> hi dudes
[14:24] <Francuz> ok, thanks for the grep -q option, what do you mean by fragile ? i'm pretty new at writing scripts so i do not have the "basic reflexes",
[14:24] <YokoBR> please, i have a hybrid apu/gpu, a HP G42, both AMD. I just can't enable the discrete one.
[14:25] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: thers a lot of ways that script will go wrong -
[14:25] <jrib> Francuz: I'd go to #bash, explain what your actual goal is, and ask for best practices.  And SolarisBoy might have some suggestions here too of course
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> jrib: good point - i'd say other than your code which you should check if it works it works, ensure it is executable, put a sheabang line at top and take the redundant things jrib pointed out the crontab, ensure its in roots crontab if you need root to run it as well
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> thats it =)
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> + redirect 2>&1 somewhere to log the run and you'll be fine eventually - sorry for the spam afterthough
[14:27] <technojabber> When i click on update on zorin os 6 it was puting Ubuntu 11.10 on my system then my computer would not boot so I had to reinstall zorin
[14:27] <Francuz> i'm in root's crontab,
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: you can pm me if you want to avoid cluttering the room i have some suggestions for you though
[14:28] <Physicist> how send a text to you hekp me?
[14:29] <jrib> SolarisBoy: it's pretty quiet here and others might be interested :)
[14:29] <SolarisBoy> cool - didn't want to impose or anything
[14:29] <Noctis_> I installed Ubuntu as a second OS and now I cannot reach Win7. This was probably caused by the fact that while installing I first formated the partition which contained Win XP (I had Win Xp and & in dualboot before installing Ubuntu, it was installed first and XP - now Ubuntu partition is boot partition). and its bootloader.  Most of the grub guides are outdated, the new ones advice using grub customiser, which I installed but when I
[14:30] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: so i would say number one lets ensure your script a) runs manually b) has a shebang line c) is executable
[14:30] <Noctis_> password and does nothing afterwards. Can somebody advise?
[14:30] <technojabber> The ubuntu GUI would not load on my old PC with 735 of ram
[14:30] <jrib> Noctis_: can you get to ubuntu now?  Through grub?
[14:30] <Francuz> the script is chmod 777
[14:31] <jrib> !who | Francuz
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: thats overkill you can do chmod u+x to the file and ensure it is owned properly in the future thats just allowing anyone to do anything to the file they want -
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: but it is executable so fine -
[14:32] <Noctis_> Well yes, I'm using it now.
[14:32] <Physicist> Anybody could say, how can I fix that error? - locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[14:32] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: ok the first thing in your script should be the shebang line if you intend for other things to run it like cron without specifically saying which shell to use - #!/bin/sh should the first line, in your case it's not so you can fix that quickly?
[14:33] <Francuz> be back in a minute with it changed,
[14:33] <SolarisBoy> k
[14:34] <Noctis_> I mean it loads and works fine, I just can't get to Win 7. The partition is there, I can see it mounted. It is just the grub that doesn't see it.
[14:34] <Physicist> Anybody could say, how can I fix that error? -> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[14:35] <Blkrdo> I am trying to install amd driver using the root shell in recovery mode but i am geting a permission denied,how to do it?
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> Physicist: do you have something incorrect in /etc/locale.conf?
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> Physicist: when do you get the error?
[14:36] <Francuz> !SolarisBoy dont, see any changes, (not working with cron, still working normally)
[14:36] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: thats fine you have added the line correct?
[14:37] <Francuz> !SolarisBoy => I just have to add "!/bin/sh" ?
[14:37] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: no on line 1 of the script you need to add exactly this (inside qoutes) "#!/bin/sh"
[14:38] <SolarisBoy> sorry if that was confusing, you need to add whats inside the quotes
[14:39] <Francuz> done, but as it has a # at the begining isn't it worthless? (or #! is a special command I don't know about )
[14:39] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not know if exist any error in the referenced file system. I get when use the terminal for: update, upgrade, installation...
[14:39] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: correct #! has a special meaning when at the top of your shell files
[14:40] <Francuz> what is it (every new knowlage is good to have )
[14:40] <Francuz> ?
[14:41] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: it means "this script should be run under this interpeter"
[14:41] <genii-around> The "shebang"
[14:41] <learningLinux> My start menu pops up everytime I turn on my computer???   How to stop it?
[14:41] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not know if exist any error in the referenced file system. I get when use the terminal to: update, upgrade, installation...
[14:42] <SolarisBoy> Physicist_: got it - what locale were you looking to have installed English/UTF-8?
[14:42] <learningLinux> Also, I get the system program problem bug going.. can someone help me solve it?
[14:43] <learningLinux> small system program problem detected window comes up shortly after getting to the desktop
[14:43] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: ok once you have that fixed with the proper shebang line - try to run it again, but this time, this time you should run it like this "./your_script >/tmp/error.log 2>&1"
[14:44] <berdario> Hello, is anybody here knowledgeable about udev? I'm trying to understand what exactly is the kernel name of a device
[14:44] <SolarisBoy> berdario: which device?
[14:44] <Francuz> so I have to run it manually or from the crontab with this command ? and what does it do?
[14:44] <berdario> SolarisBoy: a ZTE usb 3gmodem
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: this command runs your script but redirects any error/output to a file under /tmp/
[14:45] <berdario> SolarisBoy: I read this: "%k evaluates to the kernel name for the device, e.g. "sda3" for a device that would (by default) appear at /dev/sda3"
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> berdario: i assume you have the /sys device name?
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> berdario: correct
[14:45] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not understand. I am in Brazil and The locale is configured as São Paulo..
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> berdario: type sudo udevadm monitor and plug in and out your modem
[14:45] <genii-around> berdario: Almost all  those get assigned a tty device like /dev/ttyUSB0  or such
[14:46] <SolarisBoy> yea what genii-around said is also right
[14:46] <SolarisBoy> i think it already has a udev rule thats doing that -
[14:46] <phunyguy> I know regular Ubuntu has system-wide proxy capability, but I am on Kubuntu, and I cannot for the life of me find any similar setup to make this happen.  I am on a very restricted network at work, but they have proxies set up for everything.  How can I make Kubuntu use a http and socks proxy for everything? Thanks.
[14:46] <berdario> SolarisBoy: ok, how come if I connect an usb mass storage, and I do sudo udevadm info --name=/dev/bus/usb/002/037 --attribute-walk (with the usb storage on bus2 and device37) "sdb" is nowhere to be foun?
[14:46] <SolarisBoy> sd* names are dynamic
[14:47] <berdario> because apparently, the kernel name for my modem is "5-1"
[14:47] <SolarisBoy> if your looking specifically for one in a staatic manner you may be faulted
[14:47] <berdario> SolarisBoy: ok, so that line I pasted before
[14:47] <berdario> is outdated?
[14:47] <SolarisBoy> you should find a more stable attribute to walk
[14:47] <Francuz> when starting it manually with this command error.log is unchange(still empty),
[14:47] <SolarisBoy> it probably has a serial id you can use or such which is more unique
[14:48] <berdario> ok, but just to be explicit
[14:48] <berdario> this: "%k evaluates to the kernel name for the device, e.g. "sda3" for a device that would (by default) appear at /dev/sda3"
[14:48] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: did the command work? that may indicate it did - what is the result of your script?
[14:48] <SolarisBoy> berdario: thats correct
[14:48] <berdario> isn't true anymore, when talking about the names... because now they're setted dinamically?
[14:48] <Francuz> it worked, the java turned on, ad usual when doing it manually, I'm putting this command in cron now,
[14:49] <SolarisBoy> berdario: it is true
[14:49] <SolarisBoy> berdario: is that whats returned from your modem is what your saying?
[14:49] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not understand. I am in Brazil and The locale is configured as São Paulo.. Any problem with that?
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> Physicist_: you most likely just need to map that to a actual local name int he expected format - not sure what that is for Sao-Paulo =)
[14:50] <berdario> SolarisBoy: not quite, the kernel name is used as an argument in a udev rule
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> you may want to start with en_US.UTF-8 until you get it figured Physicist_
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> berdario: got you
[14:50] <berdario> SolarisBoy: so, if it's true... udevadm info DOESN'T return the kernel name, is this correct?
[14:51] <SolarisBoy> udevadm returns both kernel and sys class names
[14:51] <SolarisBoy> it really depends on the argument fed after that command what your viewing
[14:51] <jim_ec2> how do you disable services with the new services interface?
[14:51] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: Thank you.
[14:52] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: ok there are other things in your script i would fix however but as mentioned the shebang was likely the issue
[14:52] <SolarisBoy> *showstopping issue
[14:53] <ankur> hey
[14:53] <ankur> i am using iball 3.5g dongle to connect to the internet in windows 8
[14:53] <ankur> but
[14:54] <ankur> i want to use that dongle in ubuntu
[14:54] <ankur> can any one please help me
[14:54] <ankur> how can use that modem in ubuntu
[14:54] <ankur> i have no idea
[14:55] <mahesh> ankur : Boot in to Ubuntu and connect the modem in to USB port
[14:55] <ankur> mahesh but how to configure it
[14:55] <ankur> with ubuntu
[14:56] <ankur> in windows i first install the driver of the dongle
[14:56] <mahesh> ankur : you will have to configure the internet connection manually
[14:56] <ohmage> hey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in
[14:56] <ohmage> thanks
[14:56] <ankur> and then connect using that driver
[14:56] <ankur> from where
[14:56] <ankur> mahesh
[14:57] <ohmage> is there something specific i should be doing before hand for secure boot to allow the disk to boot from cd rom
[14:57] <mahesh> you can see the network connection icon on right corner
[14:57] <ankur> yaa
[14:57] <ankur> then??
[14:58] <ankur> edit connection and then mobile broadband??
[14:58] <mahesh> ankur: go to manage connections
[14:58] <mahesh> ankur: configure in Mobile Broadband
[14:58] <ankur> there is a option of "edit connection"
[14:59] <ankur> okkkk
[14:59] <mahesh> "add"
[14:59] <phunyguy> !enter | ankur, mahesh
[15:00] <ankur> how can i connect to this profile when i plugin my dongle ...there is no connect buttton
[15:01] <ohmage> hey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in
[15:03] <airos> hello everyone
[15:03] <airos> I need help
[15:03] <phunyguy> !ask | airos
[15:03] <iron> salut
[15:03] <ohmage> hey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in
[15:03] <phunyguy> !patience | ohmage
[15:04] <ohmage> sowwie
[15:04] <phunyguy> don't be sorry, just fix it.  :)
[15:05] <ohmage> being sorry is part of fixing a mistake
[15:05] <ankur> hey thanksss dude ...i have connected to internet using my dongle
[15:06] <ohmage> ;) thing is i know i can just disable secure boot and boot from cd anyway, but as 12.10 is advertised as uefi secure boot enabled i thought id give it a go but it seems my bios disables the cd rom on secure boot
[15:06] <ankur> thanxs a lot mahesh
[15:06] <airos> So I have to perform vulnerability detection improvment in openvas, and the goal is to recognize when php5 package is an ubuntu one (like PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10 instead of PHP/5.2.4).
[15:06] <airos> And I need to find a web site or somethign like that where I can update my database of security good package
[15:07] <airos> OR a web site where I put my package version and I get all the vulnerabilities know on it
[15:07] <phunyguy> !enter | airos
[15:08] <airos> I have found only this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/ and I wont to know if someone know another site
[15:08] <airos> sorry for the multiple lines
[15:13] <ankur> i want to install a package from terminal so i went to that directory from terminal and type the command "./configure" it generated some output and then i typed the second command "make" but it shows "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." this massege i dont know what dows it means and what should i do to install my package
[15:13] <LaserShark> ankur: what is the package
[15:13] <ankur> wine
[15:13] <LaserShark> ankur: just do in terminal
[15:14] <LaserShark> ankur: "sudo apt-get install wine", you shouldn't have to configure and make it
[15:14] <ankur> i am doing it in terminal
[15:14] <LaserShark> ankur: did you do "sudo apt-get install wine" in terminal?
[15:14] <LaserShark> (without the quotes)
[15:15] <ankur> i am doing this right now but i want to know that if i have a package sooo how can i install that package on my own
[15:15] <LaserShark> ankur: well, normally ./configure && make && make install does the trick with most packages, i don't know why make would be failing
[15:16] <LaserShark> ankur: in terminal, do "ls"
[15:16] <ankur> yaa i also read the same commands and procedure in an article but still i am having this problm
[15:17] <LaserShark> and post it in pastebin
[15:17] <LaserShark> and give me a link
[15:17] <ankur> what is pastebin
[15:18] <savagecroc> sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=17179869184 << when does this take effect, immediatly or do i have to reboot?
[15:18] <LaserShark> ankur, go to http://pastebin.com/
[15:18] <LaserShark> and post the output there
[15:18] <ankur> okkk....wait for a while
[15:18] <LaserShark> ok
[15:20] <ankur> LaserShark: http://pastebin.com/Qb7VyUfC
[15:20] <LaserShark> ankur, ok i see the problem
[15:21] <LaserShark> "Makefile.in" should be just "Makefile"
[15:21] <LaserShark> "mv Makefile.in Makefile"
[15:21] <heywood> LaserShark: shouldn't ankur try autoconf to create the makefile?
[15:21] <ankur> k
[15:21] <LaserShark> heywood: i'm just assuming it's something stupid
[15:22] <LaserShark> ankur, don't try that yet
[15:22] <ankur> ok
[15:22] <LaserShark> i'm pretty newish to linux, but shouldn't ./configure create the makefile
[15:22] <elena-IK> Problem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that keybinding stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. dr_willis_ asked if this happens for all users: to check I created a second user and disabled autologin. Now the keybinding worked fine for _both_ users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keyb
[15:22] <elena-IK> inding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works. Then I disabled autologin again, and again it worked fine for both users. Any ideas?
[15:22] <Francuz> if anyone wanted to see the solved problem => http://paste.ubuntu.com/1644305/
[15:22] <dydzEz2> anyone know some good terminal based programs that are just good for monitoring network traffic
[15:23] <Kireji> 64;1;2;6;9;15;18;21;22c/wc
[15:23] <dydzEz2> or even computer hardware
[15:23] <ankur> may i now able to install the package with tha "./configure,make and make install" command
[15:23] <LaserShark> ankur, just a sec
[15:24] <LaserShark> ankur: try "make depend"
[15:24] <ankur> k
[15:24] <LaserShark> ankur: it's listed here: http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/installing-wine-source
[15:24] <RFleming> Morning
[15:25] <ankur> now by "make depend " this output is generated "Makefile:40: *** missing separator.  Stop."
[15:25] <ikonia> ankur: what ar eyou doing ?
[15:25] <RFleming> What's the name of the program that takes a picture using the webcam during install?
[15:25] <RFleming> is that Cheesy?
[15:25] <LaserShark> ikonia, trying to build wine
[15:25] <ikonia> why ?
[15:25] <LaserShark> ikonia, i told him to use apt-get
[15:26] <LaserShark> ikonia, and he did, but now he wants to build wine as well
[15:26] <heywood> considering fail2ban, sshguard, and denyhosts for protecting my ssh server. does each one of those do something the other two don't? or is installing all three redundant?
[15:26] <ikonia> why ?
[15:26] <LaserShark> ikonia, i haven't a clue
[15:26] <ankur> hey it all about of my knowledge
[15:26] <ikonia> what knowledge ?
[15:26] <ikonia> why are you doing this /
[15:27] <ankur> i am installing wine right now by apt-get install command
[15:27] <RFleming> heywood, used to use fail2ban
[15:27] <ankur> but
[15:27] <RFleming> heywood, but realized better firewall rules work better.
[15:27] <ankur> still i want to know that if ever i have a package then how can i install it
[15:28] <ikonia> ankur: you don't want to do this
[15:28] <ikonia> ankur: each package is different that works different at build tine
[15:28] <ikonia> time
[15:28] <craigbass1976> I'm about to install ubuntu for a fellow who is used to Vista.  I will no be able to support him very well.  Which desktop (I can monkey with XFCE, but was hoping to avoid the monkeying part) acts most like xp/vista/win7 ?
[15:28] <RFleming> heywood, I secured up my SSH server by disallowing the typing of passwords.  Authentication is key-based only.
[15:28] <heywood> RFleming: it's a remote server that i only ssh into every once in a (rare) while. i like one (or more) of those b/c they can dynamicaly adjust the FW rules (well, at least hosts.deny).
[15:28] <ikonia> wine is not something you should be trying to build unless you have a valid reason
[15:28] <heywood> RFleming: PW auth already disabled. ssh keys only.
[15:29] <atari314> Hello, I did a minimal install (minimal-CD) of Ubuntu 12.10. Afterwards I installed xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-video-intel. But while testing 3d rending the glxgears program returns libGL error: failed to load driver: i915. Any ideas about this?
[15:29] <RFleming> heywood, you on a static IP address, or posess the ability to vpn into the network the box is on, or is this truly a public box?
[15:29] <ankur> ikonia: apt-get needs internet connection for the installation but what can i do when i dont have a internet connection ???
[15:29] <ikonia> ankur: nothing, as you can't download the source if you don't have an internet connection
[15:30] <ikonia> ankur: if you don't have an internet connection, you are stuck for any form of packages, and compiling does not get around that
[15:30] <philinux> craigbass1976: let him try a live usb. ubuntu and kubuntu
[15:30] <heywood> RFleming: box is a server at my family's home. (long story, but there's a valid reason it has to be there, not at my own place or co-located.)
[15:30] <craigbass1976> Any of the tutorials I see are old
[15:30] <genii-around> !offline
[15:31] <heywood> RFleming: it has a static IP from their ISP AFAIK, but every once in a while that IP changes (i think the last time was after a power failure).
[15:31] <heywood> RFleming: or when the cable modem reboots.
[15:31] <ankur> so there is no way to download the software at once and keep that setup in a pendrive and install it when ever i need it
[15:31] <ikonia> ankur: check the link ubottu just gave you
[15:31] <heywood> RFleming: guess i could try to set up dynDNS or something. but for now i'm treating it as a public box.
[15:32] <jpds> ankur: There is, apt-get install -d <package name> and look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ .
[15:32] <ankur> sory,,,,but i missed it
[15:32] <craigbass1976> philinux, he's going to be on his own.  I'm wondering though, with browsing the internet being his primary activity, if he could deal with Unity.  He doesn't have a smart phone, so he's not really used to that type of intercface at all.
[15:32] <xeviox> hi guys, how can I mark a self created package as "security update" so it will be updated automatically by the package manager?
[15:33] <ankur> k....i get it ...thanxxx for the support
[15:33] <Helmuthonian> Hi I have a script.sh that opens a java program. So I start this script in terminal. How can I put the current location of the terminal in my shell script.
[15:33] <jpds> xeviox: I don't believe you can.
[15:33] <heywood> RFleming: as for VPN, i suppose i could do it, but the box is the only server on the LAN side of the home network. it runs 12.04.1 LTS. i'd been advised (here and elsewhere) that ssh is much more lightweight than setting up a full-blown VPN.
[15:33] <jpds> xeviox: Also, just because it's a security update, doesn't mean that every client is set to update like that.
[15:33] <philinux> craigbass1976: all he has to do is click the firefox icon
[15:34] <jpds> heywood: openvpn isn't that heavyweight...
[15:34] <ankur> hey  can i login as a root
[15:34] <philinux> craigbass1976: you could unlock from the launcher any he doesn't need
[15:34] <jpds> !root | ankur
[15:34] <xeviox> jpds: no I run a server instance of Ubuntu that gets packages of a self hosted repository. The server is set up with the option "install security updates automatically". No I want to mark an updated package (self created) as security update so that it gets installed automatically
[15:35] <heywood> jpds: ok, will take a look. but ssh from commandline (possibly with X forwarding) already does everything i need. is there some other reason to use openvpn instead?
[15:35] <craigbass1976> philinux, and there's a way to tone stuff down right?  This is an older Toshiba laptop.
[15:35] <Eagleman> I am unable to connect from the outside with my current iptables, i have no clue what is wrong:  http://pastebin.com/ynyxHPvm   simply reloading the exact same rules will solve the problem for a few hours but then it starts over
[15:35]  * fully_human thinks whoever came up with that root quote is a genius!
[15:35] <philinux> craigbass1976: what are the specs
[15:35] <jpds> heywood: In case of IP changes?
[15:36] <ankur> soo when ever i run a command which needs the root privilages i should mention "sudo" before the command again and again and type the password after that
[15:36] <ankur> ??
[15:36] <craigbass1976> philinux, I don't know yet.  It just landed in my lap.  Stand by a minute.
[15:36] <jpds> ankur: Yes, and it caches the password for a few minutes.
[15:36] <ankur> k
[15:37] <heywood> jpds: ok, but the client on the remote end still needs to know where to connect to, right? i assume that would be via dyndns or some such...
[15:37] <RFleming> heywood, the reasons I suggested that is because what you're looking for is more a rate limiter than anything else.
[15:37] <theperfectpunk> hey escott :-)
[15:37] <jpds> heywood: Oh, I thought the home server would be a vpn client too and you'd have a central server somewhere. Sorry - misread.
[15:37] <theperfectpunk> how are you?
[15:37] <RFleming> you don't want that.  You want to be able to guarantee secure access to the box 100% of the time (when it's running).
[15:37] <heywood> jpds: no prob.
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> escott i couldn't set up bluetooth
[15:38] <escott> theperfectpunk, i dont know much about bluetooth
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> won't turn on
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> do you know anyone here who does?
[15:39] <Eagleman> I am unable to connect from the outside with my current iptables, i have no clue what is wrong:  http://pastebin.com/ynyxHPvm   simply reloading the exact same rules will solve the problem for a few hours but then it starts over
[15:39] <heywood> RFleming: that's about right. i'm not worried about someone breaking my ssh auth keys -- rather someone either DOSing the machine by hammering it, or compromising it via some (as-yet unknown) bug in ssh or something.
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> bluetooth not turning on
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> anyone help
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> someone
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> ralink rt3290
[15:39] <ikonia> Eagleman: drop your rules totally and run for a few hours see if the problem comes back
[15:40] <miebster_atwork> is 13.04 stable yet?
[15:40] <heywood> RFleming: from what i read in the manpages, all three (sshguard, fail2ban, denyhosts) do roughly what i want -- just trying to understand what the overlap / redundancy is.
[15:40] <theperfectpunk> 12.10 isn't completely stable
[15:40] <bazhang> !helpme | theperfectpunk
[15:40] <miebster_atwork> what is stable?
[15:40] <bazhang> miebster_atwork, no it's not, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <theperfectpunk> bazhang?
[15:41] <bazhang> miebster_atwork, the latest is 12.10
[15:41] <Touhou11> miebster_atwork: Debian is quite stable
[15:41] <Eagleman> ikonia, it wont
[15:41] <bazhang> Touhou11, thats not helpful
[15:41] <ikonia> Eagleman: it won't what ?
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> bluetooth rt3290 anyone>
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> ?
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> not working
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> not turning on
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> !helpme
[15:41] <xangua> ...
[15:41] <bazhang> theperfectpunk, be patient, stop repeating
[15:42] <Eagleman> ikonia, the problem wont come back, it started when i started using iptables. But the problem is that i dont see what's wrong with my current set of rules
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> they won't be able
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> to read it
[15:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: home network ?
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> if i don't type again
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> would they?
[15:42] <RFleming> heywood, they all roughly do the same thing.  fail2ban requires iptables.  It monitors your logs and then places a ban on the ip address via iptables
[15:42] <ikonia> theperfectpunk: they can't read it if they put you on ignore for being annoying
[15:42] <bazhang> theperfectpunk, try once every 15 minutes, not every 15 seconds
[15:42] <FloodBot1> theperfectpunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <escott> Eagleman, those would be a bit easier to read if they were in iptables -L format
[15:42] <RFleming> heywood_away, the problem with all of them is that you can actually self-DoS yourself :)
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> 15 min
[15:43] <heywood_away> RFleming: funny you say that. that's exactly what prompted my question! :O
[15:43] <Eagleman> escott, you sure? this is exactly the format how they want it in #netfilter
[15:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: what did netfilter say about the problem ?
[15:43] <heywood_away> i managed to lock myself out b/c denyhosts banned my remote IP.
[15:43] <Eagleman> ikonia, nothing they'r afk
[15:44] <RFleming> heywood_away, that's why a vpn would be better suited.
[15:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: then how do you know it's the format they wanted it in ?
[15:44] <heywood_away> RFleming: had to go to a neighborhood starbucks to get back in there. then spent a few hours trying to figure out which of the three was the culprit.
[15:44] <Eagleman> escott, iptables -L wont show everything
[15:44] <Eagleman> ikonia, because its in their topic
[15:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: ahh, fair enough
[15:44] <heywood_away> RFleming: (hours rather than minutes b/c i'm learning on the fly)
[15:44] <RFleming> you take SSH off of the publicly facing side, and move it in. You VPN in, then ssh into the box
[15:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: is this on a home network ?
[15:45] <Eagleman> ikonia, a bit, my server does have a WAN ip address attached to eth1.10
[15:45] <philinux> craigbass1976: what model is it
[15:45] <heywood_away> RFleming: right, but VPN into what? something's got to be running the VPN server, right?
[15:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: I'm wondering if the dhcp resust / refresh is killing the nat/masqurade
[15:45] <Eagleman> ikonia, everything is static
[15:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: even the wan ?
[15:45] <Eagleman> except the WAN ip address, but it did not changed for over an year now
[15:45] <escott> Eagleman, i find that hard to read... maybe im just not practiced
[15:46] <RFleming> heywood_away, you limit what's publicly facing, DROP (not reject) all inbound requests to invalid ports (really slows down a port scan), and put in rules for banning bad vpn client requests.
[15:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: the change may not be the problem, the request/lease renew maybe
[15:46] <RFleming> then you can guarantee yourself access to the box whenever without self-DoSing yourself.
[15:47] <Eagleman> ikonia, their lease time is 48 hours, still wont explain the problem coming back every few hours
[15:47] <Intensity> Hi. I'm pleased that Ubuntu gracefully sets up my AT&T mobile broadband card (Momentum 4G) when I connect it (logged in via Unity interface).  It interactively asks me for details such as carrier.  But I'd like to know how I can replicate that setup from scratch by copying created configuration files so that I can have network access on a text-based system too.
[15:47] <Intensity> Does anyone have an idea where such configuration files are stored and written to?
[15:47] <RFleming> heywood_away, there are decent routers out there now that have integrated VPN and place your hosts in a DMZ so they're not totally exposed as well... shore it up with hardware.
[15:48] <RFleming> that's another option to look at.
[15:48] <genii-around> Intensity: Usually somewhere like /etc/ppp/peers
[15:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: it still checks ever $x time
[15:48] <LoneTrooper> HI, Is there a difference between tar.gz and *.deb (or other package for specific distro) for installing programs? In windows its wiser to use portable packages in cost of comfort (no registry entires= less mess) and i dont know how its with linux i mean is it safer to use tar.gz than *.deb packages? What are consequences of using each of these type of files to install software?
[15:48] <yourimym1> hello is there chatroom for tech supp for nvidia geforce ubuntu ?
[15:48] <jambibot> yourimym1: Hello from QtJambiBot!
[15:48] <craigbass1976> Satellite A215-S4807   I've already got the pdf form http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/home.jsp?nav=Product%20Support  : AMD TurionTM 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL56, 2048MB DDR2 SDRAM...
[15:48] <craigbass1976> philinux, ^^
[15:48] <heywood_away> RFleming: ok, i will take a look at the openvpn docs. main thing is that the setup is 2000 miles away from where i am now, so any HW changes will have to wait a long while.
[15:48] <ikonia> jambibot: are you a bot
[15:48] <Eagleman> ok, i didnt knew that ikonia, any idea how to be sure that is the problem?
[15:49] <ikonia> hello test
[15:49] <jambibot> ikonia: Hello from QtJambiBot!
[15:49] <Eagleman> ikonia, dhcp doesnt use any port right?
[15:49] <LoneTrooper> so anyone knows the difference?
[15:49] <genii-around> Eagleman: Port 67
[15:49] <delkin> Hi guys! Here is the problem: I am accessing a windows share folder that I have mounted. And I am not able to 'cd' to windows shortcut. It appears as 'filename.lnk'. What is the best way to handle this issue in order to allow me travel into that folder?
[15:49] <heywood_away> RFleming: meantime i will take a look at the openvpn docs.
[15:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: udp port
[15:50] <ikonia> Eagleman: can't remember which one
[15:50] <heywood_away> RFleming: as for the router, it's an old linksys. i have to check, but i think i have dd-wrt on it. so i assume i can set up some sort of VPN functionality on it. and it does have a DMZ.
[15:50] <RFleming> heywood_away, oh yeah!
[15:51] <escott> delkin, thats what a link is in windows. its a file with the name of the path to traverse to inside it
[15:51] <Touhou11> LoneTrooper: The Windows registry has its uses, there are limitations to portable software. The package manager is aware of files installed via *.deb, whereas tar.gz software is outside of its control. Always use deb files where possible
[15:51] <RFleming> heywood_away, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPN
[15:51] <heywood_away> RFleming: checking router now (via ssh -X). brb...
[15:52] <LoneTrooper> touhoull so isnt that safe right? By using portable apps on linux i put my pc at risk right?
[15:53] <LoneTrooper> i used to portable apps i dont need data to be stored about them because i know where i installed them i can remove them easy
[15:53] <philinux> craigbass1976: should run just fine and dandy
[15:54] <LoneTrooper> or should i install portable apps in file system for extra security?
[15:54] <dydzEz2> whats a very popular terminal based monitoring tool for network
[15:54] <kenshiro> Hi, is there any way to request an open source application is included in Ubuntu repos? It's an open source game, ZEQ2 Lite based on Dragon Ball Z :-)
[15:55] <escott> kenshiro, you can become a packager and submit it to debian
[15:55] <Intensity> genii-around: Yeah I would have expected to see something there if there was good integration between the GUI and the typical text-based setups.  But, there is nothing new (besides standard details) in /etc/ppp nor /etc/chatscripts
[15:55] <dydzEz2> like something similar to top
[15:55] <dydzEz2> i really like top
[15:55] <ikonia> nettop
[15:55] <ikonia> ntop
[15:56] <dydzEz2>  ntop is browser based for the stas
[15:56] <dydzEz2> on top you see whats up in the terminal
[15:56] <ikonia> ntop runs in the terminal
[15:56] <dydzEz2> oh i gues im just having a lot of problems with it on a VM
[15:56] <dydzEz2> for some reasono
[15:56] <KI4RO> .
[15:57] <craigbass1976> philinux, I'm all over it then.
[15:57] <kenshiro> escott I'm very interested, I will invetigate that, I'm programmer but never submitted a package to a distro :)
[15:57] <LoneTrooper> http://www.moddb.com/games/zeq2lite hes that game in summary it says in supports linux so extract archive and look for linux executables
[15:57] <escott> !packaging
[15:57] <escott> kenshiro, ^^^
[15:58] <ikonia> you're right, ntop needs a browser, sorry
[15:59] <dydzEz2> yeah
[15:59] <dydzEz2> is nmon popular?
[15:59] <kenshiro> escott and LoneTrooper, thank you for your help :-)
[15:59] <LoneTrooper> np
[16:00] <akSeya> hello folks :)
[16:01] <user01> i have a question about unicode, i see there are different versions, etc . . . 5.0, 6.0 etc . . . how do you know what "version" is supported?
[16:02] <nomodeset> Hello, i've installed gajim
[16:02] <nomodeset> but i need python-farsight
[16:02] <nomodeset> python-farsigth
[16:02] <nomodeset> to enable video/audio
[16:03] <escott> user01, as i understand things the versions just mean that additional characters have been added. so in some sense "all" are supported (they all parse) and "none" are supported there is no one font that includes all glyphs
[16:03] <nomodeset> but that package does not appear at the repos
[16:03] <kicklighter__> nomodest python-farsight is only for windows internals....
[16:04] <nomodeset> kicklighter__: Hello, then what i can do to enable
[16:04] <nomodeset> this features on gajim
[16:04] <akSeya> listen I have two nics in my computer, eth0 with internet access and eth1 for internal network. I want to block everything from outside (eth0) and allow only specified ports while letting all ports open for eth1. I guess I can do this with this command "iptables -P INPUT DROP; iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" right?
[16:04] <user01> escott: so when they add a character to a codepoint . . . how would you know if it is supported?  what does it mean "add a codepoint"?  I know the space is the same 1 million plus combinations
[16:04] <philinux> craigbass1976: if it can boot from usb all the better.
[16:05] <Intensity> I believe that it's nm-applet that's setting that up; it's certainly running.
[16:05] <user01> there wouldnt be a way to know for instance what version of unicode my linux system supports?
[16:06] <escott> user01, in some sense there is not operating system anywhere the supports unicode. its not practical. the number of people who read/write documents in korean, arabic, english, and elvish is very small
[16:06] <escott> s/not/no
[16:07] <genii-around> Hehe, elvish
[16:07] <user01> escott: I would say there are a lot that write in english actually . ..
[16:07] <escott> genii-around, yeah thats terribly inaccurate of me. i didnt specify which elvish. tengwar in this case :)
[16:07] <Eagleman> ikonia, what will happen when the dhclclient and server cant contact each other?
[16:07] <escott> user01, AND. ie all in the same document
[16:07] <Intensity> Aha.  I did a text search and I believe that it's being stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[16:08] <Eagleman> ikonia, the IP address is not changing or removed from my eth1.10 interface
[16:08] <user01> escott: really?  I would think in ubuntu there would tons of people writing documents in all the different languages
[16:08] <escott> user01, pick any font face you want. there are many many codepoints in unicode that the font face does not have a corresponding glyph for and you would see that block with numbers in it
[16:09] <escott> user01, and they use different fonts. koreans use korean fonts but dont bother to install arabic/tengwar/cyrrilic/etc
[16:11] <escott> user01, at the end of the day its the installed typefaces that dictate if the unicode sample is rendered in a meaningful fashion or not.
[16:12] <escott> user01, tengwar is a great example as you almost certainly dont have it installed and so the sample on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar won't render correctly, but if you install the fonts it will
[16:12] <VOice> I need help.
[16:12] <tgm4883> !ask | VOice
[16:13] <VOice> How do I install a wireless driver? I have a Toshiba C850-B705
[16:13] <genii-around> VOice: More details of what you need help with could be useful to us
[16:13] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a hybrid hp g42, with amd/amd apu/gpu... how can i install them drivers
[16:13] <YokoBR> ?
[16:13] <VOice> How do I install a wireless driver? I have a Toshiba C850-B705. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10.
[16:13] <compdoc> YokoBR, what drivers do you need?
[16:14] <user01> escott: actually i think it does, i installed symbola, which includes the symbols added in unicode 6.0 such as 'pile of poo'
[16:14] <philinux> VOice: does wireless not work at all. Can you connect wired first
[16:14] <VOice> I'm on wired.
[16:14] <YokoBR> HD 4200 (apu) and HD 6310 (gpu)
[16:14] <YokoBR> compdoc
[16:14] <philinux> VOice: look in additional drivers. what version ubuntu
[16:14] <VOice> 12.10
[16:15] <VOice> I installed Additional Drivers using Ubuntu Software Center but it's not showing anything, empty.
[16:15] <philinux> VOice: top right select system settings and look in additionnal drivers.
[16:15] <fego> .2
[16:15] <YokoBR> VOice, you can also try ndiswrapper
[16:16] <VOice> How? Any tutorial?
[16:16] <VOice> And aditional drivers is empty.
[16:16] <compdoc> YokoBR, amd recently released new drivers. you might start there:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[16:16] <VOice> Aditional Drivers says: NO proprietary drivers are in use.
[16:17] <genii-around> VOice: If you put the results of the command: sudo lshw -C network     into a pastebin for us to look at, it could be helpful. Also the result of:  lspci -nn
[16:17] <VOice> OK, I will, 1 minute.
[16:17] <jil> hello
[16:18] <escott> user01, perhaps fontconfig doesn't know about the font? isn't configured to use the matching symbols from that font?
[16:18] <escott> user01, check with gnome-character-map to see if it gets picked up at the codepoint
[16:18] <user01> escott: the font displays for me . . . i was wondering about other people
[16:19] <jil> can encode mp3 sound with vlc on ubuntu?  I receive a message say ffmpeg (libav..) does not includ mpeg layer I et II
[16:19] <user01> escott: they would have to have the font installed basically
[16:19] <jil> can I (sorry)
[16:20] <user01> escott: like if i encode it in unicode, they cant read the pile of poo unless they have one
[16:20] <escott> user01, unicode has this big set of rules regarding what to do when an exact codepoint match is not found
[16:20] <VOice> genii-around: http://pastebin.com/rCV8w4DK
[16:21] <escott> user01, sometimes it can render in another glyph that is close (ie maybe missing an accent) in other cases you get a box with little numbers in it (that basically means "there should be a unicode glyph here but i can't render it")
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> sudo make works
[16:22] <genii-around> VOice: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> but sudo make install does not
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> can anybody tell me what's wrong>
[16:22] <VOice> genii-around: will that work?
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> ?
[16:23] <jil> any mp3 on ubuntu ?  I also get an error with avidemux.
[16:23] <escott> user01, there is no way for you to know what they will see. no more than you can say if they will view your webpage in a Sans Serif or a Serif font. for all you know they are blind.
[16:23] <philinux> VOice: what happens when u unplug wired. does it offer any wirelss points
[16:23] <VOice> No.
[16:23] <theperfectpunk> escott sudo make install doesn't work in a package
[16:24] <theperfectpunk> what to do?
[16:24] <theperfectpunk> but sudo make does
[16:25] <genii-around> VOice: It's a pain, I know, but it looks like this is the case with the adapter you have which is unclaimed, the driver needs to be manually made for it ( vendor:device code of 10ec:8723  )
[16:26] <VOice> genii-around: i ran the commands you gave me, after checking this showed:
[16:26] <VOice> FATAL: Module rtl8723e not found.
[16:27] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should not "sudo make" its unnecessary and potentially dangerous
[16:27] <dydzEz2> man i cant find a good stock market watcher on ubuntu
[16:27] <theperfectpunk> ok i did make
[16:27] <theperfectpunk> but make install did not work
[16:27] <theperfectpunk> they are drivers from secure source
[16:28] <theperfectpunk> to get bluetooth workin
[16:28] <escott> theperfectpunk, if you have to run "make install" that has to be "sudo make install" because unless you ./configure --prefix=/home/username/something
[16:28] <theperfectpunk> there is no configure file in the package
[16:29] <theperfectpunk> m trying to install the bluetooth driver in this
[16:29] <theperfectpunk> http://downloads.zotac.com/mediadrivers/mb/download/NB087_Ubuntu.zip
[16:29] <escott> theperfectpunk, then "make; sudo make install" would be sensible (provided checkinstall is not working)
[16:30] <theperfectpunk> let me check if checkinstall is working
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> checkinstall not working
[16:31] <YokoBR> guys, i think i found out my problem. My hybrid apu/gpu needs both legacy and new amd drivers.. how do i solve that?
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> no rule to make target install
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> is the error
[16:32] <TheHawk> Hey under 100% cpu load how much temp must the cpu sensor say to be sure its not heating? under 60 celsius?
[16:32] <VOice> SO, what do I do with my problem?
[16:32] <jil> theperfectpunk, it sound like you make did not go as expected.
[16:33] <jil> likes your
[16:33] <theperfectpunk> no errors with make
[16:33] <theperfectpunk> jil
[16:34] <theperfectpunk> escott any more idead?
[16:34] <theperfectpunk> *ideas
[16:35] <escott> theperfectpunk, you've fallen into the bad habit of putting sudo in front of everything even when it doesnt need sudo. always try things without sudo first.
[16:35] <Fuzzles> whats better ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[16:35] <escott> theperfectpunk, i haven't been following your problem so i dont know what you are dealing with at the moment
[16:35] <escott> !lts | Fuzzles
[16:35] <escott> Fuzzles, there is no best. depends on what you want
[16:35] <theperfectpunk> make alone doesn't work
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> it gives permission denied
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> so i sudo make
[16:36] <jose__> Hello guys. Is there a command to open an application but not bringing it to the front?? I looked for gvfs-open options but found none. Thanks.
[16:36] <escott> theperfectpunk, you probably unpacked things with sudo
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> no other choice escott
[16:36] <Fuzzles> escott, well i heard 12.10 had and has a lot of problems
[16:36] <g16> theperfectpunk: under DPOinuxSTA_V2600_/README_STA_pci, I read: Supporting kernel: Linux 2.4 and 2.6 series. Does that match the number you see by running uname -r on the terminal?
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> nope mine is 3.2
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> kernel
[16:37] <theperfectpunk> so these drivers won't work?
[16:37] <escott> theperfectpunk, what you should be doing is: (a) downloading a tarball (b) unpacking that tarball without root permissions ie tar -xzvf filename.tgz [NO SUDO] (c) running configure and make without root (d) running checkinstall/make install as root
[16:37] <g16> They're not guaranteed to work.
[16:38] <fego> theperfectpunk: there should also be a README or INSTALL file, they might be helpul in installation
[16:38] <theperfectpunk> http://downloads.zotac.com/mediadrivers/mb/download/NB087_Ubuntu.zip nothing have a look
[16:38] <theperfectpunk> m trying to install bluetooth odriver not lan
[16:38] <theperfectpunk> escott
[16:39] <theperfectpunk> are the tar balls extracted with sudo
[16:39] <theperfectpunk> require root permission to be modified or deleted?
[16:39] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should not extract tarballs as root. there is no need to
[16:39] <theperfectpunk> the folder is not getting deleted
[16:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Just [ tar -flags ] them.
[16:40] <escott> theperfectpunk, if you do sudo tar -xzvf then you've made it so that only root can work with those files
[16:40] <Fuzzles> escott, i hear theres some problems with 12.10 is taht true
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> yeah
[16:40] <xangua> theperfectpunk: a bluetooth dongle¿ how do you know your bluetooth is not recognized¿
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> i can't delete them
[16:40] <escott> theperfectpunk, forcing you to use a privileged make which is silly
[16:40] <genii-around> VOice: Apologies on lag, work required me for a while. You may require a reboot for the system to see the new driver was built. There may be some command to force it to see a new module immediately like ldconfig works for libraries, but I do not know it offhand.
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: You do realize you're using an inverted question mark, right?
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> no it's a internal bluetooth
[16:40] <escott> Fuzzles, there are problems with all software
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> escott u are a genius
[16:41] <VOice> ok genii
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> xangua
[16:41] <genii-around> VOice: This is assuming you did not receive any errors on all the previous steps
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> can't turn it on
[16:41] <escott> theperfectpunk, I would sudo rm -rf ./the_folder_you_extracted and then redo the tar -xzvf without sudo
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> escott will do
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> thank you
[16:42] <xangua> theperfectpunk: was it recognized when you used a live cd/usb¿
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> nope i installed a driver for it
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> it's ralink rt3298
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> bluetooth
[16:43] <xangua> theperfectpunk: i had to install blueman to show the indicator even when my bluetooth dongle was recognized
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: On which distro? I have no trouble with GNOME showing the indicator.
[16:43] <theperfectpunk> ok m installing blueman'=
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> And come to think of it neither does Unity.
[16:44] <xangua> SonikkuAmerica: on ubuntu 12.04
[16:44] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: That's weird. I might have to Google that...
[16:44] <SonikkuAmerica> (Well, Google is a bit extreme, I just created a /command for it on XChat. lol)
[16:45] <theperfectpunk> installed didn't work
[16:45] <theperfectpunk> everything is grayed out
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: The System Settings > Bluetooth didn't work?
[16:46] <k1l_> does it have bluetooth? does lspci/lsusb see it? is it blocked by rfkill?
[16:47] <xangua> SonikkuAmerica: like i said, my bluetooth dongle was recognized but it was just the default indicator not showing up; installed blueman and it showed blueman's indicator
[16:47] <xangua> anyways i am not the one with a problem here :)
[16:48] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: I know, I was just a little quizzical as to why you suggested to theperfectpunk that installing blueman was the only way a BT indicator would show up.
[16:49] <XtremeWiz> Hi everyone. I am trying to delete the contents of a directory using "rm -rf directory_name" but I am getting "Permission Denied" error. Does this have anything to do with CHMOD permissions of the folder(s) inside directory_name?
[16:50] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: more ownership problems there
[16:50] <XtremeWiz> pipopopo: didn't get you.
[16:51] <himsin> hi, whenever I connect android phone in ubuntu 12.04 it becomes very slow and almost unresponsive but it works fine in windows. Any ideas why this is happening?
[16:51] <anant> hie
[16:52] <anant> no body is replying ? :(
[16:52] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: chown
[16:52] <escott> XtremeWiz, more likely the owner of the folder (chown)
[16:52] <tgm4883> !ask | anant
[16:52] <anant> i m new in ubuntu ... can u help me
[16:52] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: do ls -l and see if the ownership is ok
[16:52] <himsin> I also tried with other android phones and same results
[16:53] <anant> my printer is not working on ubuntu :(
[16:53] <philinux> anant: just tell us your problem
[16:53] <anant> when i connect it to usb
[16:53] <philinux> anant: make and model would help
[16:54] <anant> it adds automatically the printer
[16:54] <anant> but when i give command to print
[16:54] <anant> it says printing fail
[16:54] <anant> printer model is lbp2900
[16:54] <philinux> anant: make and model would help
[16:54] <anant> Canon lbp 2900
[16:55] <XtremeWiz> pipopopo: yeah, I made the folder chmod 777 and it worked. Thank you.
[16:55] <tgm4883> anant, http://askubuntu.com/questions/145769/how-do-i-get-a-canon-lbp-2900-printer-working
[16:55] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: np
[16:56] <escott> himsin, the phone or the computer? and is this android 4.0+ or <4.0
[16:57] <anant> How can i configure my adnroid phone with ubuntu ?
[16:57] <ikonia> what ???
[16:57] <anant> any pc suite for android phone in linux ?
[16:57] <ikonia> anant: what are you talking about
[16:57] <ikonia> anant: what do you actually want to do
[16:58] <himsin> escott, ics
[16:58] <himsin> escott, the pohne
[17:00] <jeph> good evening i would like to ask help. actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but i get crashed most of the time so i think that it may be the incompatible packet i might have installed .i would like to uninstalled it and and reinstall it again i would like to keep some of appliation i have  i would like to ask if there is a way of backup apps or even be aware of all application install so that i can install them again
[17:01] <escott> himsin, maybe more ptp requests are being made than the phone can handle
[17:02] <jeph> good evening i would like to ask help. actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but i get crashed most of the time so i think that it may be the incompatible packet i might have installed .i would like to uninstalled it and and reinstall it again i would like to keep some of appliation i have  i would like to ask if there is a way of backup apps or even be aware of all application install so that i can install them again
[17:03] <escott> !clone | jeph
[17:05] <d8bhatta> How to connect ubuntu with tp-link router?
[17:05] <d8bhatta> any idea guys?
[17:06] <ikonia> d8bhatta: it's just a standard wireless router isn't it ?
[17:06] <Quest> how to delete all files in a folder and its subfolders that match this pattern *_1.* ?
[17:06] <d8bhatta> ikonia:  yes its wireless router
[17:07] <escott> Quest, find . -name '*_1.*' -delete
[17:07] <ikonia> d8bhatta: there are many notes on how to connect to wireless router, including the official guide on https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <Quest> escott any other way?
[17:08] <escott> Quest, sure
[17:08] <Bollsaq> Is the netbook-remix interface still available? I wanna try it on a regular laptop.
[17:09] <k1l_> Bollsaq: no
[17:09] <technojabber> I just download Linux lite set it to boot from the live DVD an it ask for a password I put one in but will not accept
[17:09] <Bollsaq> damn
[17:10] <Bollsaq> I think it would be nice, better than Unity.
[17:10] <k1l_> Bollsaq: it was back in the 11.04 days and that is end-of-life now
[17:10] <Quest> escott like?
[17:10] <k1l_> Bollsaq: unity runs very well on my samsung nc10 netbook
[17:10] <Bollsaq> k1l_: Easypeasy is still in development, so was wondering if that desktop interface had a PPA or something.
[17:10] <escott> Quest, you could write a c program to do it
[17:11] <Quest> escott no, just linux and windows terminals
[17:11] <k1l_> Bollsaq: "still in development" = last release was in april 2010. i wouldnt count on that
[17:11] <escott> Quest, im not sure why you would want another way to do it
[17:12] <Quest> escott ok
[17:12] <Quest> thanks
[17:12] <Bollsaq> k1l_: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=easypeasy it says active.
[17:13] <k1l_> Bollsaq: that doesnt change anything of the facts i mentioned
[17:14] <VulcanRidr> Got a minor problem. I need a newer version of torque than is in the repos for precise, so, for the first time in 10 years or so, I am attempting to roll a deb. It's erroring out just before creation of the debs. Is there somewhere (pastebin?) that I can stick the errors and can someone walk me through what I'm missing?
[17:14] <Bollsaq> k1l_: Oh I thought active meant still supported, must've misunderstood
[17:15] <Halite> How do I create a new directory in the terminal
[17:15] <llutz> Halite: mkdir directory
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Halite  mkdir
[17:16] <pringlescan> I'm getting a new server for work and I have to run several VMs on it… I'll need to run Windows, Linux and possibly OSX. Should I spring for VMWare, use virtualbox, or something else?
[17:17] <VulcanRidr> pringlescan: What about kvm?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> pringlescan  virtualbox is in the ubuntu repos and free, vmware isnt
[17:17] <theperfectpunk> is it possible to set a bin file to execute at startup?
[17:18] <liquidmetal> Any recommendations for some video editing software for ubuntu? I know of blender - but anything else?
[17:19] <xangua> liquidmetal: as far as i know belnder is a 3d modeling program, not a video editor
[17:20] <liquidmetal> xangua: it has video editing functionality as well! It even has compositing!
[17:20] <sotiris> hello guys
[17:21] <sotiris> please i need help with sslstrip runiing on ubuntu
[17:22] <jangoler> i can't join to any channel, why?!
[17:22] <Pici> jangoler: you're here.
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !info sslstrip
[17:22] <jangoler> yeah i know
[17:22] <Pici> jangoler: if you're having issues with other channels, you'll need to ask in #freenode
[17:22] <jangoler> but i wanna join to #ikariam.ir
[17:22] <pringlescan> It seems like VMware fairs better in benchmarks, but the license cost is comparable to a CPU upgrade that would negate the benefits
[17:22] <jangoler> tnx
[17:23] <escott> pringlescan, you could also use xen or kvm. what you use is much more of a question of management time and capabilities than cost as you are realizing
[17:24] <Bollsaq> I suddenly miss netbook-remix
[17:27] <VulcanRidr> Can anyone help me with my deb building problem? The end of the build is at http://pastebin.com/3BjG1x1e
[17:28] <spizzo> I've just updated all packages on my system and java -version still shows I'm on 1.6 even after installing openjdk 7 packages. How do I get to java version 1.7?
[17:29] <dydzEz2> If i installed a program like netbeans, where would i find it in the file system
[17:29] <GuidoPallemans> dydzEz2: probably /usr/bin
[17:30] <dydzEz2> check that, if not -- where else? or how do i found out the name
[17:30] <dydzEz2> because i installed something from the software center
[17:30] <dydzEz2> and if i type the name in the terminal it doesnt launch
[17:30] <pringlescan> escott, mostly it would be for me to set up a couple of VMs, but I'm at an edu institution and I'd like to use something like zen or openvz to teach them basic server admin and have their own system to use
[17:30] <dydzEz2> so im figured its named something else
[17:30] <GuidoPallemans> probably
[17:31] <pringlescan> has anyone ever set something up to scale down CPU clockspeed when the system is on a UPS?
[17:32] <jeph> i got another problem.i have install ubuntu 10.04 in my sumsung laptop  and i am missing wireless drivers can some tell me how to get them
[17:32] <jeph> please
[17:32] <craigbass1976> Ok, I'm trying to install on a Vista machine.  I don't see options to resize partitions during the install, and gparted won't let me either.  The up down arrows are greyed out, nor can I drag the arrows when the partition in question is highlighted.
[17:33] <escott> pringlescan, so openvz is containers and not a real VM
[17:33] <Pici> !floodbots | sotiris
[17:34] <pringlescan> escott, I do know that, but I don't think they need to play with Kernels, I was thinking of having a large VM running that, I realize that's not very efficient, but unless I can get AWS to give them free usage tier w/o a credit card, that's my best option
[17:34] <escott> pringlescan, re UPS wouldn't make that much of a difference, you might be able to reduce power by 30% with a big hit on efficiency. the end result may be greater power consumption overall
[17:34] <jeph> i got another problem.i have install ubuntu 10.04 in my sumsung laptop  and i am missing wireless drivers can some tell me how to get them please?
[17:34] <pringlescan> jeph, do you know the model number of your wireless card?
[17:34] <jeph> let me check
[17:35] <theperfectpunk> hello
[17:35] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to resize with fdisk?
[17:35] <theperfectpunk> how to run scripts at bootup?
[17:35] <pringlescan> escott, I'm just concerned about running my main db and app server in a VM, so I was thinking of running it on the host
[17:35] <zgr> hey guys I have strange problem with blanks cd-rs i can't write any, on two different pcs running ubuntu (12.04 and 12.40). When I insert blank cdr it spins and spins...
[17:35] <theperfectpunk> escott
[17:36] <theperfectpunk> i finally got the bluetooth to work
[17:36] <pringlescan> zgr, try a different brand of media, check the manufacturer of the optical drives, see if they are the same, google for the combination of media brand and manufacturer and see if there's anyone else having that problem
[17:36] <craigbass1976> zgr, is this new?  I've run across some bunk batches of blanks.  I think the last was Staples brand.
[17:37] <agu10^> hi people!
[17:37] <SilverOrange> Hey! I have a quick question. I have a mid range video card in a server, using ubuntu server. Do I need to install the drivers for it? Does it provide any benifit at all?
[17:37] <g16> craigbass1976: fdisk resizes the partitions, but you should first resize the filesystem with the appropriate tool. If Vista uses ntfs, then check for ntfsresize.
[17:37] <yashi> ive got some serious noise issues with my mic... deinstalled pulse so far. tried everything in alsamixer -v=all. any ideas?
[17:37] <g16> Or better, do the resize from within Vista and using Vista's native tool.
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[17:38] <sideeffect> taking in to account that till now noone as given in apropriate channel an ansmer to this. and probably it may affect ubuntu users very well too: feel free to help :D :D --> http://www.forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=288767
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[17:39] <SilverOrange> Hey! I have a quick question. I have a mid range video card in a server, using ubuntu server. Do I need to install the drivers for it? Does it provide any benifit at all? or should I just take it out.
[17:39] <theperfectpunk> escott how to run some commands at bootup?
[17:40] <pringlescan> jeph, did you try googling that network card and the version of ubuntu?
[17:40] <escott> theperfectpunk, what commands do you want to run
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[17:41] <zgr> pringlescan craigbass1976 just tried on laptop with windows cdrs are detected properly, and while spinning it on ubuntu ps aux shows only udev accessing dev/sr0
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> escott
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> sudo mknod /dev/rtbth c 192 0
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> and finally
[17:41] <escott> theperfectpunk, you just list modules you want to run in /etc/modules
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> ./rtbt.bin
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> theperfectpunk  is this link useful http://superuser.com/questions/471253/ubuntu-how-to-run-a-terminal-command-on-boot
[17:42] <pringlescan> zgr, I haven't tried burning in linux in ages, I used to work in a print shop where we burned 1,000s a month and I just know to check the top and the bottom of the spindle :-( and switch brands
[17:42] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should not have to make device nodes, udev should be doing that. perhaps you can update its rules
[17:42] <escott> theperfectpunk, no idea what the final binary does...
[17:42] <jeph> i read that i have to install windows driver  but i failed to locate the file  window.inf that i had to find inside it the driver i need
[17:42] <theperfectpunk> it enables bluetooth
[17:42] <theperfectpunk> service
[17:42] <jeph> so i you know how i can find that file may be it can help
[17:42] <theperfectpunk> i want it to run automatically each time the system boots up
[17:43] <VulcanRidr> is there a better channel to ask about deb build questions?
[17:43] <escott> theperfectpunk, /etc/rc.local as a last ditch location. all paths should be full paths in that
[17:44] <theperfectpunk> the commands use two files
[17:44] <theperfectpunk> where should i put the two files?
[17:44] <theperfectpunk> actually not just two files i think it uses the whole folder
[17:45] <escott> !fhs | theperfectpunk
[17:47] <sarthor> Hi, I have linux installed 14. how to install USB 4610 SureMark Printer on Linux. My linuxt can see the printer in tail -f /var/log/syslog but the printer is not listed in the printers area. Help please
[17:48] <theperfectpunk> escott can i pm you?
[17:48] <theperfectpunk> plz
[17:48] <theperfectpunk> i am at the verge of getting it to work completely
[17:48] <escott> theperfectpunk, i have not been following everything you have done. i honestly don't know why you keep singling me out
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> i can't read all that now
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> it's 11:19PM here
[17:49] <unheeding> sarthor: what do you mean linux installed 14?  are you using Linux Mint?
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> could you explain how will it access the files required>
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> ?
[17:50] <sarthor> mint 14
[17:50] <theperfectpunk> escott i have worked really hard to get so close
[17:50] <unheeding> you should ask in the mint support channel, I don't know if it is the same as ubuntu
[17:50] <theperfectpunk> escott, it's been nearly 5 hours figuring this out
[17:50] <k1l_> !mint | sarthor
[17:51] <theperfectpunk> and i'm not singling out'
[17:51] <sarthor> I have ubuntu installed too. I am can plug the usb cable to 12.10 desktop.
[17:51] <theperfectpunk> i just don;t understand you
[17:51] <theperfectpunk> bcoz m not a linux genius
[17:51] <sarthor> and same on ubuntul unheeding
[17:52] <theperfectpunk> escott can u please tell me how it will access those files?
[17:52] <theperfectpunk> i have to run three commands :
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> a) “sudo modprobe bluetooth" to make sure that BlueZ related service
[17:53] <OerHeks> theperfectpunk, MonkeyDust gave you a url with an answer
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> launched.
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> b) “sudo insmod rtbth.ko”
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> c) “sudo mknod /dev/rtbth c 192 0
[17:53] <FloodBot1> theperfectpunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> and ./rtbt.bin
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> OerHeks
[17:53] <escott> theperfectpunk, if you dont understand me why do you keep asking? im happy to answer but i havent been following so its hard for me to get context
[17:53] <Estrobeda> Is this only ubuntu and support or can i ask something diffrent?
[17:53] <Halite> What is the command to initate a Kernel BugCheck
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> ok let's start from the beginning
[17:53] <escott> theperfectpunk, modules are usually loaded through /etc/modules where you just list the module you want to load
[17:54] <theperfectpunk> by modules you mean binary files?
[17:54] <escott> theperfectpunk, also mixing modprobe and insmod is really strange. they do the same thing. you would modprobe both. or more simply list both in /etc/modules
[17:55] <escott> theperfectpunk, as for mknod udev is responsible for /dev so you would usually make a rule in /etc/udev.d/rules for your device
[17:55] <yourimym1> hello is there nvidia-ubuntu support chanel
[17:55] <theperfectpunk> what will the rule do?
[17:55] <escott> theperfectpunk, this final ./rtbt.bin.... since I don't know what it does i can only suggest that you put it in /etc/rc.local with a full path to the executable
[17:56] <Metalhead1337> hi
[17:56] <escott> theperfectpunk, the udev rule would run the mknod file on the appropriate event. i dont know much about udev so i can't really advise you on that.
[17:56] <escott> theperfectpunk, you can also just dump everything in /etc/rc.local which is ugly but should work
[17:56] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> ok escott i got the two commands
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> how to implement this sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> it requires the rtbth.ko file
[17:57] <Metalhead1337> anyone?
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> where to copy the rtbth.ko
[17:57] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[17:58] <Metalhead1337> hello?
[17:58] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[17:59] <escott> theperfectpunk, usually that would just be modprobe rtbth. im not sure why you would be messing with insmod
[17:59] <theperfectpunk> escott it's in the guide
[17:59] <theperfectpunk> under module installing'
[17:59] <osmdave> hi can someone help me get started. hp g6 intel i5 ubuntu 12.10 install with updates and wifi from cd. boots to purple screen. nomodeset does not fix it
[18:00] <Lofde_> i have installed vino and remmina on a lubuntu box , and i cant vnc to 127.0.0.1 i get connection refused (i tried this after i used my other ubuntu box to connect to it on the same network and was getting a connection refused too) i have it set in vino-preference to share desktop and allow remote control with no password.. anyone have any ideas where i should start to troubleshoot on the lubuntu machine
[18:00] <Metalhead1337> please
[18:00] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[18:01] <DJones> Metalhead1337: Its not something I've done, but this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[18:01] <Metalhead1337> will it work in 12.10?
[18:01] <DJones> Metalhead1337: More recent version https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[18:01] <Metalhead1337> thanks!
[18:02] <DJones> Metalhead1337: Change the 12.04 in the address to 12.10 thats the latest version
[18:02] <craigbass1976> What do we do when checkdisk /f isn't possible on a drive before setting up a dual boot?  Windows won't boot is the problem to begin with.
[18:02] <Metalhead1337> DJones: I already did but thanks anyway
[18:02] <An-IP-BreAKDoWN> Metalhead1337 if the repo isn't up to date then do this http://inspircd.github.com/wiki/Installation/Source.html
[18:03] <Metalhead1337> thanks!
[18:03] <theperfectpunk> what do i need to enter in /etc/udev.d/rules?
[18:03] <theperfectpunk> escot
[18:03] <escott> craigbass1976, boot a windows rescue disk and run chkdsk there
[18:05] <escott> theperfectpunk, i dont know. i cannot tell you how to slay the monsters on the journey, i can only point you down the correct path
[18:05] <theperfectpunk> ok got it
[18:06] <theperfectpunk> one more question escott
[18:07] <theperfectpunk> escott, what does sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[18:07] <theperfectpunk> do? and is it a one time operation only?
[18:08] <escott> theperfectpunk, its a lower level version of "sudo modprobe rtbth" it finds a file named rtbth.ko which is a Kernel Object file (ie computer code) and instructs the kernel to load it into the kernel
[18:08] <escott> theperfectpunk, that gives the kernel some additional capabilities, presumably knowledge of how to control this bluetooth card
[18:09] <theperfectpunk> escott, so it needs to be done everytime the system boots or only one time?
[18:09] <escott> theperfectpunk, and it will stay loaded until you either unload it with rmmod or reboot
[18:09] <heywood> RFleming: (back now... sorry that took so long)
[18:09] <heywood> RFleming: anyway, checked router -- it does _not_ have dd-wrt on it, only the stock FW.
[18:10] <theperfectpunk> escott
[18:10] <theperfectpunk> my question is
[18:10] <theperfectpunk> in what directory do the rc.local run?
[18:10] <heywood> RFleming: so to set up VPN that way, i'd need to do a remote FW upgrade (which sounds like an exceedingly bad idea).
[18:10] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should never assume anything about the working directory of an init process. you should always include full paths.
[18:11] <theperfectpunk> escott, so instead of
[18:11] <theperfectpunk> sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[18:12] <theperfectpunk> i should sudo insmod <path of rtbth.ko>
[18:12] <theperfectpunk> ?
[18:12] <Kireji> has anyone recently checked out laptops that support ubuntu?  would love to chat, looking at buying one soon - would like to use 12.10 full disk encryption - so a CPU/chipset with AES support, or a drive with FDE support built in a plus
[18:13] <heywood> RFleming: i'll poke around https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN and see if i can get that running from here.
[18:13] <escott> theperfectpunk, (a) init runs as root so you would remove the sudo (b) im back to my original question. why are you using insmod and not modprobe? if modprobe doesnt work then you may have misconfigured/misinstalled the module and it may not be in the correct path for modprobe to pick it up. you should fix that (c) I would list the modules i need in /etc/modules and not be manually issuing modprobe directives anyways
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Kireji  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[18:14] <SuperLag> I have a desktop with Ubuntu 12.10 on it. I have a drive that's external currently, and I'd like to install Ubuntu on that, is there a way to run an install from an existing install? (i hope that makes sense)
[18:14] <yourimym1> ubuntu-nvidia ?
[18:14] <ozzloy> when i try to login from 12.04, the screen goes black for a second, then i'm put right back at the login screen.  how do i troubleshoot that?
[18:14] <heywood> RFleming: BTW, the advice i got in this forum (suggesting ssh as the appropriate tool for my needs) was to prefer ssh to *VNC*, not VPN...
[18:14] <Kireji> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:14] <ozzloy> i'm still able to log in in a terminal
[18:15] <ozzloy> i'm logged in through ctrl+alt+f1 right now
[18:15] <escott> Kireji, just because this is recent and perhaps relevant http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2013/02/12/dear-lazyweb-thinkpads-and-ata-passwords/
[18:15] <dydzEz2> whats the closest thing to mspaint on ubuntu, like the easiest image editor ever
[18:15] <dydzEz2> gimp is meh
[18:15] <Kireji> escott: reading - thanks
[18:16] <escott> dydzEz2, there is kpaint, but i dont think of mspaint as an image editor but rather a bitmap editor
[18:16] <ozzloy> i'm guessing something in my graphical login settings is fubared, so it fails and brings me back to the login screen
[18:16] <escott> !gksudo | ozzloy
[18:16] <yourimym1> does anyone now if there ubuntu-nvidia orc chat ?
[18:16] <g16> dydzEz2: pinta, Paint.NET
[18:16] <Kireji> escott: what a nightmare
[18:17] <escott> ozzloy, you probably didnt follow the above and need to "sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> !find paint | dydzEz2
[18:17] <Kireji> what is Luks?
[18:17] <escott> ozzloy, so "ctrl-alt-f1" login, run "sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority", then ctrl-alt-f7 back to the login screen
[18:17] <ozzloy> escott, i sure don't run graphical applications as root
[18:17] <yourimym1> plz
[18:17] <Kireji> "ösoftware uses this (kernel interface). Using dm-crypt (Luks) does this for sure."
[18:17] <ozzloy> i'l see if Xauthority is owned by me
[18:17] <dydzEz2> man you know whad be a cool program, just a picture of the globe and you can click anywhere on it to test your pring and tracert
[18:18] <ozzloy> escott, yep, it's owned by me.  it's chmodded 600.  is that what it should be?
[18:18] <escott> ozzloy, then its something else
[18:18] <ozzloy> darn
[18:19] <escott> ozzloy, you can "mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak" you might also try the .compiz folder
[18:19] <ozzloy> kk.  i'll try those.  thanks for the suggestions!
[18:20] <yourimym1> does anyone now if there ubuntu-nvidia orc chat ?
[18:21] <Praxi> I'm having to convince my boss that raid is significantly faster than single drives.  Does anyone have any links to some good easy articles?
[18:21] <ozzloy> nope, neither of those.  i mv .compiz .compiz.bak.2013-02-13
[18:21] <k1l_> yourimym1: ask if its related to ubuntu
[18:21] <ozzloy> and .config .config.2013-02-13
[18:21] <xjkx> [off] I would like to test something, long story. Anyway, I have a router, the ip is 192.168.1.1 and I have another router with the same IP, what happens if I plug one in the other, and expect the router that was plugged, to offer wifi ? Their same ip has a problem ?
[18:22] <yourimym1> k1l / i can't find the right driver for my nvidia
[18:22] <ephesius> xjkx: they would need different ip addresses
[18:22] <ozzloy> are there log files i can check?
[18:23] <markgifford> wc
[18:23] <ozzloy> what log files would be related to graphical login failures?
[18:23] <k1l_> yourimym1: which card do you have?
[18:23] <escott> Praxi, that would depend on what kind of raid it is. but you can find benchmarks for things like mdadm online
[18:23] <xjkx> ephesius: I can really change that in the web interface ?
[18:23] <chadams42> can someone please help me with some group permission issues
[18:23] <k1l_> yourimym1: show the line in "lspci" that mentiones your card please
[18:23] <escott> ozzloy, /var/log/Xorg.0.log might say something ~/.xsession-errors might be more helpful since X seems to be working
[18:24] <chadams42> I'm trying to understand how I setup my groups so that I can securely have multiple people edit websites
[18:24] <yourimym1> k1l_ / geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3
[18:24] <ephesius> xjkx: yes you should be able to, what kind of router is the one you're trying to connect to the main router
[18:24] <Osakasa^> no mut toi o iha siisti
[18:24] <Osakasa^> sorry wrong channel
[18:24] <escott> chadams42, add them to the www-data group
[18:25] <xjkx> ephesius: tp link w8951nd
[18:25] <escott> chadams42, you might also want to setgid/setuid on the directory
[18:25] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Using partimage to clone a partition to a different hard drive, do I need to have a partition created in advance or will partimage create the partition on the target disk as part of the process. Neither drive has the OS on it.
[18:25] <xjkx> ephesius: they wont both offer wifi, thats why I hoped I didn't need to change
[18:26] <ozzloy> escott, i was just checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log!  yay, i am starting to know where to look.  i'll check xsession-errors
[18:26] <ozzloy> x is working, yes.  the graphical login screen shows up fine
[18:27] <yourimym1> ?
[18:27] <escott> !permissions | chadams42 otherwise your question is a bit vague so...
[18:28] <ephesius> xjkx: since thats a modem+router i doubt it will work the way you are thinking
[18:28] <k1l_> yourimym1: please show the exact line mentioned in "lspci"
[18:28] <SuperLag> Is there a way to initiate an install from a running desktop, that you want to put on an external hard drive? or do you have to reboot and run the installer from media?
[18:29] <xjkx> ephesius: hmm, ok thanks :)
[18:29] <chadams42> in /etc/passwd GID is The primary group ID (stored in /etc/group file) but, in /etc/group GID is "number in your /etc/passwd" this is confusing?
[18:30] <chadams42> how do you know which one to change, they ref each other?
[18:31] <yashi> im using two displays with different refresh rates (75 and 60hz) on the 75hz tft everythings fine. but playing on the other one is impossible. tearing to the max :x
[18:31] <escott> chadams42, you should NEVER directly modify /etc/passwd /etc/groups
[18:32] <escott> chadams42, always use the usermod/adduser/useradd tools
[18:32] <yourimym1> hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f
[18:32] <escott> yashi, i would think so
[18:32] <yashi> escott: any idea how to fix it? vsync syncs to 75hz everywhere ><
[18:32] <k1l_> yourimym1: nvidia-current didnt work?
[18:33] <sandeepr> in ubuntu 12.10, i want to add a static route so the server is pingable from my laptop
[18:33] <yashi> escott: im chekcing if i can force 60hz onto the other one ...but thats kind of stupid imo
[18:33] <yourimym1> k1l_, desktop vanish after instaled also
[18:33] <DoWhileGeek> I just got a ssd. How do I image my current hdd and put it on there?
[18:33] <yourimym1> no side or top bar
[18:34] <sandeepr> i used route add -net x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x gw x.x.x.x
[18:34] <BluesKaj> yourimym1, have you checked the "additional drivers" ?
[18:34] <yourimym1> yes i've tried almost all of them
[18:34] <sandeepr> its not pingable yet
[18:35] <escott> DoWhileGeek, i would not do that
[18:35] <sandeepr> the route -n has an entry for eth2 which i want to delete
[18:35] <escott> DoWhileGeek, a reinstall or a file level copy is preferable
[18:35] <sandeepr> what is the correct syntax with route del to be used?
[18:35] <DoWhileGeek> escott:  I assume file level copy is copying all the relevent directories?
[18:36] <DoWhileGeek> escott: assuming I dont do anything out of the norm with my filesystem, what directories should I copy?
[18:36] <escott> DoWhileGeek, yes a "cp -a" is ok but dont do a "dd"
[18:36] <DoWhileGeek> escott:  dd?
[18:36] <Kireji> has anyone tried 12.10 on Dell XPS 13?
[18:36] <mehdi> hey guys i folow instruction here : http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/     now i dont have hotkeys for volume wat should i do?
[18:36] <Duke_Puke> Hi. Does anybody got the switchable graphics overheating problem in 12.10?
[18:37] <yourimym1> hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f
[18:37] <escott> DoWhileGeek, you said "image" which usually indicates a low level copy (bit-for-bit) with a tool like dd/ddrescue/etc
[18:38] <DoWhileGeek> escott:  ok, thanks for the tip
[18:39] <yourimym1> :) so , does anyone know nvidia tech support room ubuntu !
[18:39] <bobana> #burza
[18:40] <jtek> Hi guys, I am having some issues getting ubuntu 12.04 to boot using btrfs anyone have a mind to help me out?
[18:41] <s9iper1> i need to set up a proxy on ubuntu  for youtube any help
[18:41] <s9iper1> ??
[18:41] <escott> jtek, what kind of issues?
[18:42] <tworkin> on ubuntu 12.04, how would I go about getting a newer verison of nodejs than 0.6.12 that apt-cache shows?
[18:42] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Using partimage to clone a partition to a different hard drive, do I need to have a partition created in advance or will partimage create the partition on the target disk as part of the process. Neither drive has the OS on it.
[18:42] <theadmin> tworkin: Generally, to get a package version newer than provided by Canonical, you search for a PPA, or if that fails, try to install from source
[18:46] <escott> !pm | jtek and your problem seems unrelated to btrfs
[18:46] <s9iper1> i need to set up proxy on ubuntu  any body help ??
[18:46] <OerHeks> theadmin, could backports provide him with 0.6.19 ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nodejs
[18:46] <g16> tworkin: apt-get update
[18:47] <theadmin> OerHeks: Oh, backports may work too, forget about those most of the time
[18:47] <jtek> escott, my apologies
[18:47] <tworkin> thanks all
[18:47] <jtek> I should preface my issue by informing that if installing using ext4 I have no issues whatsoever
[18:48] <MrHacks> Anyone know how to get MATE-Desktop installed. The public key exists on the mate download websites but apt-get keeps saying the public key is not available.
[18:49] <theadmin> MrHacks: There are detailed instructions on their website for Ubuntu... Just follow them and you'll be fine, if you can't follow the instructions that means you shouldn't be installing third-party software.
[18:49] <theadmin> MrHacks: For you, specifically, the idea is you're supposed to import the key (apt-key-add)
[18:49] <escott> jtek, you might start by sending the output of "sudo parted -l"
[18:50] <Fuzzles> is there a program for ubuntu that allows you to gutmann harddrives?
[18:50] <dchevak> hello
[18:51] <yourimym1> ubuttu
[18:51] <yourimym1> ubottu
[18:51] <MrHacks> theadmin: Yeah, that's the problem I followed those install instructions (http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download) but it doesn't say anything about "apt-key-add" on it.
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> !info wipe | Fuzzles
[18:53] <escott> Fuzzles, on most filesystems wipe/shred doesn't work
[18:53] <Fuzzles> anyone know of a program to wipe a hard drive using gutmann method?
[18:53] <Quest> escott,  $ find -name *_1.* -delete
[18:53] <Quest> find: paths must precede expression: text_1.txt.odt
[18:53] <Fuzzles> escott, what you mean?
[18:53] <chadams42> why when I "sudo usermod -G developer developer; groups developer" it outputs "developer : chadams developer"
[18:53] <escott> Fuzzles, if you need to destroy the entire drive contents a simple cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdX will do
[18:53] <chadams42> where did "chadams" come from?
[18:54] <escott> chadams42, -a -G always -a
[18:54]  * MrHacks hopes someone else can explain the apt-key-add thing for mate-deskop without the smug attitude
[18:54] <Quest> escott,  whats wrong
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> Fuzzles  if what escott says about wipe is right: secure-delete uses the gutmann method
[18:55] <chadams42> -a is append, and I want to reset the groups on that account. besides adding -a does;t change anything
[18:55] <escott> Quest, "*" got expanded by the shell. so thats not what you want
[18:55] <Quest> escott,  meaning?
[18:56] <Goranek> Hey guys, cna someone please hell me with alsamixer & sound? I spend 2 hours trying to make sound work..but no success.. :/ I mean i can make it work on Archlinux..but can't force it to work on Ubuntu Minimal
[18:56] <genii-around> Fuzzles: I think nwipe might have an option for the 35 pass Guttman wipe
[18:56] <MoPac> [GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butlocation doesn't appear in /hom/****/.gvfs
[18:56] <Goranek> "aplay -l" shows 2 devices ( hda ati sb analog , ati hdmi), i've added my user to group audio
[18:56] <Goranek> pleasee :(
[18:56] <yashi> how do i force one of my displays to 60hz? xrandr lists its compatible if i type xrandr. but im not sure what the name of the display is
[18:57] <MoPac> I'm using nemo as default file manager in case that matters
[18:57] <theadmin> MrHacks: Not directly, no, but "sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring" will give you the key after the repo has been added and apt-get update ran.
[18:57] <escott> Quest, meaning if you had file that matched the expression in the working directory then what got executed was "find -name text_1.txt.odt -delete" and not find -name *_1.* -delete
[18:57] <chadams42> sudo usermod -a -G developer developer; groups developer still outputs "chadams"
[18:57] <ovejanegra> hey! I am trying to backup my archives in order to reinstall ubuntu. i am running the live cd now. but i cannot transfer the files because it says i dont have permission to read the folder. please help!
[18:57] <escott> Quest, you want globbing to happen in find not in bash
[18:57] <Quest> question:  how can i save the output of the terminal to a text file ? (i observe scroll has a limit)
[18:58] <escott> Quest, command > output.txt
[18:58] <escott> chadams42, sorry you are trying to remove chadams from developer
[18:58] <MrHacks> That's the thing, theadmin, I added the repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and got the GPG error message saying the key was not available.
[18:58] <Rm55> exit
[18:58] <Quest> escott,  so why it didnt deleted text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[18:58] <MrHacks> apt-get update didn't like it
[18:59] <jrtappers> Is it possible to make apps for ubuntu in java, and if so what limitations are caused by using it?
[18:59] <theadmin> MrHacks: Right, it won't automatically become available, you need to "apt-get install mate-archive-keyring". It will complain about the package being unauthenticated blah blah, tell it to install anyway, done
[18:59] <chadams42> echinos_: yea
[18:59] <theadmin> MrHacks: Might need to re-run apt-get update after getting the keyring
[19:00] <chadams42> escott: yea I'm trying to remove "chadams" from developer
[19:00] <Fuzzles> genii-around, can you get ir from software centre?
[19:00] <escott> chadams42, so a bit about group membership
[19:00] <ovejanegra> hey! I am trying to backup my archives in order to reinstall ubuntu. i am running the live cd now. but i cannot transfer the files because it says i dont have permission to read the folder. please help!
[19:00] <escott> chadams42, its set at login for the session, so running "groups myself" will output my current active group permissions which may not match what i have in /etc/groups
[19:01] <escott> chadams42, so if you are logged in as developer right now you need to logout first
[19:01] <chadams42> I'm logged in as chadams
[19:01] <Fuzzles> ovejanegra, open terminal and put sudo nautilus to gain permission
[19:02] <Quest> escott,  i just recovered files form formated disk. now i have "afile.ext" and a duplicate "afile_1.ext" too.  iam getting rid of duplicates but i endangeour that i might not delete important files with that wild card
[19:02] <escott> chadams42, and to be clear "developer" is another username which you had previously added to the developer user membership in the chadams group, and you want to undo that
[19:02] <MrHacks> OK. sorry for being stupid. It's just the dumbest thing for someone to set up a repo like that. I
[19:02] <chadams42> escott: yea
[19:03] <chadams42> trying to fix my groups
[19:03] <genii-around> Fuzzles: Yes.
[19:03] <escott> Quest, if they are true duplicate there are dedup tools which will use checksums to identify actual duplicates
[19:03] <Fuzzles> genii-around, whats the program called?
[19:03] <chadams42> escott: my groups are chadams sudo www-data
[19:03] <MrHacks> I'll chew out the guys at #mate later
[19:03] <genii-around> Fuzzles: "nwipe"
[19:03] <chadams42> I'm trying to get this up so that developers have access to the www folder and can all edit
[19:03] <Fuzzles> genii-around, cant find anything under nwiope
[19:03] <Fuzzles> genii-around, nwipe
[19:03] <chadams42> and I can control their access
[19:04] <genii-around> !info nwipe quantal
[19:04] <genii-around> Bah.
[19:04] <Quest> escott,  what do dedup tools do? compare the bytes?
[19:05] <genii-around> Fuzzles: Apologies, it is in my 13.04 in the universe repository, but i guess now that it was only just added
[19:05] <Quest> escott,  so why it didnt deleted text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[19:05] <Fuzzles> genii-around, so it will come in 13.04?
[19:05] <escott> chadams42, that is weird "sudo usermod -G developer developer" should mean that the "developer" user has only one group namely "developer"
[19:05] <genii-around> !info nwipe raring
[19:06] <chadams42> escott: yea this is why I think I may need to edit the file manually ugh
[19:06] <genii-around> Fuzzles: Yes.
[19:06] <escott> Quest, its find /path/to/start/in -name *pattern* -action
[19:06] <simpson_> Can anyone help me with a cluster?
[19:06] <escott> Quest, so find . -name ...
[19:06] <escott> Quest, but if you have true duplicates then a dedup tool would be safer
[19:07] <escott> chadams42, does usermod not give an error?
[19:07] <chadams42> escott: no
[19:07] <escott> chadams42, messing with those files could be the cause of the problems because you might have some locking issues
[19:07] <chadams42> escott: no error
[19:07] <Quest> escott,  yes. but thats what i was saying
[19:07] <Quest> escott,   text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[19:07] <ovejanegra> Fuzzles, I did that and it worked. thank you! but then i got some weird messages in the terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1645693/ Can anyone tell me what it means?
[19:08] <escott> chadams42, grep chadams /etc/group
[19:08] <chadams42> sudo:x:27:chadams
[19:08] <chadams42> www-data:x:33:chadams,www-data
[19:08] <chadams42> chadams:x:1000:kelly,www-data
[19:08] <escott> Quest, try '*_1\.*' then
[19:08] <Quest> it says $ find -name *_1.* -delete
 find: paths must precede expression: text_1.txt.odt
[19:08] <chadams42> ugh, sorry all, probably should have PM'ed that
[19:08] <Quest> escott,   text_1.txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[19:08] <Quest> *
[19:08] <MoPac> [GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butlocation doesn't appear in /hom/****/.gvfs
[19:09] <escott> Quest, find <you need a path here> <you need a quote here>*_1<this might need to be \. not just .>*<another quote here> -delete
[19:09] <Quest> escott,  is it taking . as a regular expression?
[19:09] <Fuzzles> ovejanegra, im not sure when i use that to move files it gives me errors purely because i close the terminal did you do that or close the program when your done?
[19:09] <escott> Quest, find <you need a path here> -name <you need a quote here>*_1<this might need to be \. not just .>*<another quote here> -delete
[19:10] <escott> chadams42, then chadams42 is not in developer. grep developer /etc/group
[19:10] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a way to extract .vce files on Ubuntu?
[19:10] <ovejanegra> i dont think so
[19:10] <Quest> escott,  i am already in that directory. so path is not needed. is it?
[19:10] <chadams42> escott: developer:x:1003:www-data,developer
[19:11] <escott> Quest, yes it is needed. thats what find keeps telling you
[19:11] <ovejanegra> maybe its because my hdd is flawed
[19:11] <Fuzzles> ovejanegra, i wouldnt worry tbh
[19:11] <yourimym1> hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f
[19:11] <escott> chadams42, and groups developer doesn't print out "www-data developer"
[19:11] <escott> chadams42, sorry got that backwards.
[19:11] <chadams42> escott: it prints "developer : chadams developer"
[19:12] <escott> chadams42, looks ok. groups seems to be confused
[19:12] <escott> chadams42, or groups is somehow out of sync with /etc/groups
[19:12] <Quest> escott,  /media/work/test$ find -name '*_1.*' -ls            is ok?
[19:12] <escott> chadams42, because www-data and developer are the only users in developer group
[19:12] <escott> Quest, NO
[19:13] <sandeepr> i get a SIOCADDRT: No such process while adding a static route via the route add -net command, googled around and am not finding defintive way to add the route
[19:13] <yashi> how do i force one of my displays to 60hz? xrandr lists its compatible if i type xrandr. but im not sure what the name of the display is
[19:13] <chadams42> escott: I was thinking to remove all groups, then add developer to www-data
[19:13] <sandeepr> any one can please help?
[19:13] <escott> Quest, <find . -name '*_1.*'>  or <find . -name '*_1\.*'> i'm not sure which one
[19:13] <Quest> how about $ find /media/work/test -name '*_1.*' -ls
[19:13] <escott> Quest, thats ok
[19:13] <chadams42> escott: so developers can edit the web files under /www
[19:13] <escott> chadams42, you can't add groups to groups
[19:14] <chadams42> developer is a user
[19:14] <escott> chadams42, i think you are confused by the fact that on ubuntu many users have a group of the same name, but its not a recursive structure
[19:14] <chadams42> escott: yea that is cinfusing
[19:14] <escott> chadams42, I'm going to start appending a "U" to every user and a "G" to every group. this is not how it appears in the system though
[19:15] <escott> chadams42, suppose that chadamsU is a member of chadamsG and developerG
[19:15] <escott> chadams42, further suppose that developerU is a member of www-dataG
[19:16] <escott> chadams42, suppose a file is owned by www-dataU:www-dataG. then members of www-dataG can edit that file
[19:16] <unknownFreq> Hello there. Anyone familiar with the PHC cup undervolt module?
[19:16] <unknownFreq> cup = cpu
[19:16] <escott> chadams42, those individuals include: www-dataU and developerU, but does not (and cannot) include developerG because groups cannot be members of groups
[19:17] <escott> chadams42, so chadamsU who is a member of developerG is unaffected by the membership of developerU in www-dataG
[19:17] <chadams42> escott: so I would need to www-dataG to chadamsU to allow chadamsU to edit the files
[19:18] <escott> chadams42, yes "sudo usermod -a -G www-dataG chadamsU" (and of course removing U/G in the actual command)
[19:18] <ozzloy> escott, yay, it's fixed!
[19:18] <escott> ozzloy, cant remember what it was but good!
[19:20] <yourimym1> hi , is any one familiar with nvidia driver issues ?
[19:20] <DoWhileGeek> I like the sleek as phuck design of macbook, does it play nice with ubuntu?
[19:20] <ozzloy> escott, logging in to my account graphically.  it was my .profile.  had a typo
[19:20] <DoWhileGeek> macbook pro/air
[19:20] <escott> !language | DoWhileGeek
[19:21] <DoWhileGeek> escott: I have no idea what your talking about
[19:21] <krilkov> Can someone help please? I lost in lubuntu, the win equivilant of a task bar, how do I get it back?
[19:21] <Quest> escott,  thanks
[19:22] <Quest> escott,  what do dedup tools do precisly, compare bytes?
[19:24] <escott> DoWhileGeek, "easy as ph..."
[19:25] <escott> Quest, essentially
[19:25] <escott> !dedup
[19:25] <escott> Quest, there was a good one, if i can find it again
[19:25] <DoWhileGeek> escott: isnt even a word dude
[19:25] <Quest> escott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicatis
[19:25] <escott> !info fslint | Quest
[19:26] <escott> DoWhileGeek, thats true of most curse words
[19:26] <idodeisuke> !help
[19:26] <jtek-live> escott, here is that output, sorry for the delay:
[19:26] <jtek-live> luninux@LuninuXOS:~$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M080 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt  Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  500MB   499MB                         bios_grub  2      500MB   1000MB  500MB   ext2  3      1000MB  3048MB  2048MB  linux-swap(v1)  4      3048MB  80.0GB  77.0GB  btrfs   Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised d
[19:26] <Quest> escott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicates*
[19:26] <idodeisuke> !info moo
[19:26] <chadams42> escott: what were those commands again so new files get right group permissions in folders
[19:26] <Quest> escott,  so fslint does that?
[19:26] <escott> !paste | jtek-live
[19:27] <escott> chadams42, you want to setgid on the folder(s) and possibly setuid as well
[19:27] <Oneill> so, my hdd were failing and tried to replace them (raid 1 setup), i replaced one drive and it synced properly, then i tried to replace the other one (expecting the new one already had the proper mirror) but i only get a blinking cursos when i try to boot... any ideias?
[19:27] <escott> chadams42, only on folders though. not on files
[19:28] <escott> Oneill, you probably never installed the bootloader on the other drive
[19:28] <jtek-live>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14	luninux@LuninuXOS:~$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M080 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt  Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  500MB   499MB                         bios_grub  2      500MB   1000MB  500MB   ext2  3      1000MB  3048MB  2048MB  linux-swap(v1)  4      3048MB  80.0GB  77.0G
[19:28] <jtek-live> I feel like a newb
[19:28] <escott> jtek-live, not going to read that formated like that. paste.ubuntu.com
[19:28] <jtek-live> pastebin automatically pastes the content in?
[19:28] <escott> jtek-live, no you have to paste it to the website and then send us the link
[19:29] <Oneill> escott, probably not...
[19:29] <escott> !info pastebinit | jtek-live
[19:29] <jtek-live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1645844/
[19:29] <Oneill> trying to boot from ubuntu livecd
[19:29] <escott> !grub | Oneill you can just follow the "lost grub after installing windows" instructions
[19:29] <Oneill> thanks
[19:29] <Oneill> will ry that
[19:29] <jtek-live> I'm sorry for needing the hand holding there
[19:30] <SuperLag> jtek-live: everyone starts somewhere. If you keep this up, one day you will help in answering the questions. :)
[19:30] <Quest> escott,  busy?
[19:30] <root___> Hienosti vaihtuu porukka
[19:30] <Oneill> escott, still works for ubuntu server right?
[19:31] <escott> Quest, fslint is just a nice gui to deal with various things that happen with files. dedup is one of the tools
[19:31] <technojabber> Can i install 2 Linux distros on a computer running xp 735MB of ram
[19:31] <Quest> hm
[19:31] <Quest> escott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicates*
[19:31] <escott> Quest, but it is file level dedup so they have to be exactly identical
[19:31] <Quest> escott, identical is by size or by name?
[19:32] <escott> Quest, in contents, the name is not a part of the file
[19:32] <Quest> escott,  what do you mean by file level? it does not entertains folders?
[19:32] <Quest> escott, ok
[19:33] <escott> Quest, there is block level dedup which can deal with a file which is a copy of the other but maybe with some additional stuff added at the end.
[19:34] <kraftman> hola
[19:34] <kraftman> kien esta por ahi
[19:34] <Pici> !es | kraftman
[19:34] <Quest> escott,  i see
[19:35] <kraftman> estoy haciendo pruebas
[19:35] <kraftman> para irc
[19:35] <kraftman> adios
[19:35] <scotta3234> I'm installing 12.10 on a laptop with two drives. Installer wont create the / partition larger than 8587MB. Any ideas?
[19:35] <scotta3234> on a 32 gig SSD drive
[19:36] <escott> scotta3234, what is the output of "sudo parted -l"
[19:36] <escott> !paste | scotta3234
[19:37] <jtek-live> Thanks SuperLag
[19:37] <scotta3234> escott, can't run it right now as I'm doing the install. I can confirm that gparted was showing the full size as I deleted all partitions.
[19:39] <scotta3234> escott, so it was just a unformatted 28gig partition (according to gparted) on the SSD where I was trying to install
[19:39] <jtek-live> escott, I'm noticing that the bios_grup partition required for btrfs does not have the boot flag set. I assume setting this flag will not hurt anything?
[19:40] <samar> hai
[19:40] <Quest> escott,  by the way, there can be a possiblity that two files are not duplicates but have exactly the same size in exact bits?
[19:41] <samar> need help?
[19:41] <Pici> !ask
[19:43] <jtek-live> ok, I am going to try setting that flag and reboot off the live system here. I'll chat with you all from jtek thanks!
[19:45] <jtek> Correction, I left the bios_grub flag on that partition and enabled the boot flag on /boot
[19:47] <PoolShark_> so I'm having a library problem or something
[19:47] <PoolShark_> http://pastebin.com/DijUK51H
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> PoolShark_, you may want ##programming
[19:48] <escott> jtek, bootable flags seldom matter for most bioses
[19:48] <escott> jtek, also bios_grub is the bootable partition not /boot
[19:48] <Quest> there can be a possiblity that two files are not duplicates but have exactly the same size in exact bits/bytes? so how do checksum apps point duplicates
[19:49] <escott> Quest, the whole point of dedup is if you have two copies of the same contents under two different names
[19:49] <daniear> hi
[19:50] <PoolShark_> TheLordOfTime: this problem is specific to Ubuntu it seems... the linked example works fine on Debian, Slack, and even older versions of Ubuntu... it's an issue with 12.04, not a programming issue in general
[19:50] <escott> Quest, dedups use checksums to speed up the identification of possible duplicates and then do a time consuming bit for bit comparison after candidates have been identified
[19:50] <heywood> hi all. installed fail2ban, sshguard, and denyhosts on a server running ssh. if i have /etc/sshguard/whitelist and /var/lib/denyhosts/allowed-hosts set up correctly, is there any reason to have sshd: ALL: ALLOW in hosts.allow?
[19:50] <jtek> escott, interesting, so even though the flag says grub_bios that technically means its bootable? Not sure why I cant get it to boot... The first install I did, I only had the grub_bios partition and the / partition. The second go I did as previously stated but also included /boot as a separate partition. Obviously the change I just made to add /boot as bootable made no significant difference.
[19:50] <daniear> escott, just do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[19:50] <daniear> will fix any issue u have
[19:51] <escott> jtek, bootable is a meaningless flag. some bioses care and will only allow the mbr bootloader to access within the flagged bootable partitions
[19:51] <Quest> escott,  so every file has a checksum?
[19:51] <jtek> escott, got it
[19:51] <Quest> escott,  what is checksum
[19:51] <escott> jtek, such a bios would see grub stage 1 in the mbr accessing the grub_bios partition and would demand that grub_bios be bootable
[19:51] <daniear> Quest, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[19:52] <IdleOne> thought so
[19:52] <TheLordOfTime> PoolShark_, mind if i borrow your code and test on a 12.04 system?
[19:52] <Quest> daniear whats that
[19:52] <PoolShark_> TheLordOfTime: sure, that'd be great. That'll tell me if it's just my particualar instance of 12.04
[19:52] <genii-around> !danger | Quest
[19:53] <IdleOne> Quest: do not run that command
[19:53] <heywood> Quest: that's a bot or some idiot trying to get you to trash one of your hard drive partitions.
[19:53] <escott> Quest, its computed from the contents. a small change in the contents will cause a large change in the output. the checksum length is usually a fixed length 40characters and up to some reasonably long length
[19:53] <escott> Quest, try it with md5sum or sha1sum to get a feel for it
[19:54] <Quest> IdleOne,  genii-around  what it will do
[19:54] <heywood> Quest: it will overwrite a good chunk of your hard drive with random data.
[19:54] <IdleOne> Quest: it will format your hard drive and leave it blank, essentially putting you in a creak without a paddle
[19:54] <Quest> escott,  i see
[19:54] <genii-around> Quest: It will erase your hard drive
[19:54] <Quest> escott,  so every file has a checksum present?
[19:55] <IdleOne> actually heywood's description is more accurate, same outcome though.
[19:55] <Quest> IdleOne,  heywood  any no chances of recovery?
[19:55] <escott> Quest, there are many different checksums. it has to be computed though
[19:55] <IdleOne> Quest: correct
[19:56] <Quest> escott,  so checksum has to be manuly created. every file does not has it already?
[19:57] <jtek> escott, the bios_grub partition does not have a recognized file system. Just grasping at straws here
[19:57] <heywood> Quest: if you overwrite the main partition of your hard drive (/dev/sda) with random data (that's what /dev/urandom produces), it is essentially impossible to recover.
[19:57] <escott> jtek, its not a filesystem
[19:57] <escott> jtek, on msdos/mbr partitioned disks there is some unused space after the mbr but before the first partition
[19:57] <chriscalip> i am out of ideas with this one.. on /etc/hosts i added a ip and domain pair... i can reach the ip. but i am still not able to reach the domain.. even though on ping i see  :    ping  domain.com (ip.xxx.x.x)
[19:57] <escott> jtek, grub uses that space for some data it needs to be able to start
[19:58] <escott> jtek, said space does not exist on a gpt disk. so grub needs a small partition on which to dump that code
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> PoolShark_, i can replicate the problem but i can't find a solution, but the library its supposed to be in does "exist", perhaps its a bug in 12.04 (i'm looking)
[20:01] <jtek> Escott, correct, the mbr space has no discernable filesystem in windows, however when installing with btrfs as the partition type the partition in ubiquity informed that I had to create a bios_grub partition of 200-500MB. When creating the partition that file system was selectable. I had assumed parted would list this as a unique file system. From the sounds if it, this is really just unallocated space used for the bootloader. If thats t
[20:02] <escott> jtek, thats ridiculously large 1MB is sufficient for grub_bios
[20:03] <jtek> Escott, hahahaha nice.... I will reinstall with 1MB and / as btrfs with no separate /boot partition. Thanks for all the information.
[20:03] <escott> jtek, no
[20:03] <escott> jtek, you might still need a /boot. thats another matter entirely
[20:03] <escott> jtek, grub_bios is there because grub needs space after the mbr which is not present on a gpt disk
[20:04] <escott> jtek, /boot is there in case grub cant find the kernel and initramfs on the btrfs partition
[20:04] <escott> jtek, if your grub version does not support btrfs then you need an ext-series /boot for grub to be able to start the kernel
[20:05] <each1> I could use some help with an installation issue.  brand new asus laptop, nvidia geforce 670m, booting a livecd or liveusb, it displays the ubuntu splash screen but apparently can't start X and drops me at a console prompt.  this is true for both 12.10 and 12.04.  I wasn't expecting to get full performance out of nvidia without updating the driver after install, but I can't even get vga-level graphics at this point and I don't know of a way to do a desktop instal
[20:06] <jtek> Escott, I did read that as of 12.04 (I think) the ext2 /boot was no longer required and grub should be able to read from btrfs. Also, if I reformat the drive in MBR format (only 80GB don't really need to go GPT) that should eliminate the need for grub_bios space?
[20:06] <jtek> escott, or am I way off?
[20:07] <escott> jtek, yes if you have msdos partition you would not need a grub_bios. but that raises the question why did you have gpt partition in the first place?
[20:07] <jtek> Escott, it was the default selected option when reformatting my drive and I ran with it.
[20:08] <AndIrc___> hello I just installed ubuntu on my alienware 17x 3r and the wireless was working perfect until new updates was installed and I made restart. can someone help me ?
[20:08] <amaivsimau> wht?
[20:08] <escott> jtek, ok. well make sure to use (g)parted to change the partition table type and not fdisk
[20:09] <scotta3234> I am installing ubuntu on a machine with 1 HD and 1 SSD. I want to put / on SSD but the installer wont let me make it larger than 8587MB. Any ideas?
[20:09] <sonOfRa> How would you partition your file system if you had an SSD and a HDD, where the HDD is in a bay slot that sometimes needs to be replaced by a DVD Drive?
[20:09] <jtek> escott, for curiosity's sake why not fdisk or cfdisk?
[20:09] <sonOfRa> SSD on /, HDD on /data? Or has anyone had a better idea?
[20:10] <escott> jtek, fdisk is basically abandonware. it won't delete the gpt structures and will leave you with a messed up table
[20:10] <escott> sonOfRa, depends on what your goals are
[20:10] <jtek> escott, got it, thanks a ton!
[20:11] <escott> sonOfRa, faster boot? faster login? faster loading of grand theft auto? what do you want to be faster?
[20:11] <sonOfRa> mainly boot, stuff like eclipse, etc
[20:11] <AndIrc___> can someone help me pls. when I just installed ubuntu wireless was working perfect and when I installed the updates it stopped working. can someone help me pls
[20:11] <escott> sonOfRa, in that case / should be on the SSD
[20:11] <escott> sonOfRa, /var. /home can be on the HDD
[20:12] <genii-around> Basically anything but swap on the SSD unless you want to manually trim it all the time
[20:12] <sonOfRa> Well, the problem with /home is, that the HDD would be in a bay, and will sometimes be temporarily replaced by a DVD drive
[20:13] <escott> sonOfRa, then everything needs to be on the SSD
[20:13] <sonOfRa> Then I would have no /home anymore. So I thought of mounting the HDD on /var and /data, where /data stores files similar to a homedir
[20:13] <efialtis> hello,anyone that can offer me some helP?
[20:13] <escott> sonOfRa, except for things like your music collection
[20:13] <sonOfRa> might just have to figure out which files I will need, and which I won't need. Is that reasonable at all?
[20:14] <sonOfRa> I guess the uses of the DVD drive will be limited to burning/ripping music/dvds
[20:14] <genii-around> efialtis: If you describe first your problem, then perhaps
[20:15] <efialtis> i have problem with my wireless
[20:15] <efialtis> i bought a new laptop
[20:15] <AndIrc___> genii-around can u help me please then. my wireless is not working after I installed the updates
[20:15] <efialtis> which was with ubuntu preinstalled
[20:16] <efialtis> it was 11.04 version so i installed 12.04
[20:16] <efialtis> everything ok except wireless
[20:16] <efialtis> any ideas?
[20:16] <genii-around> AndIrc___ and efialtis ... if you are the same person then please use only one name to talk to me, otherwise it becomes quite confusing
[20:16] <AndIrc___> we are nit sam eperson .. lol
[20:16] <efialtis> how can i do wit?
[20:17] <AndIrc___> I am talking to u from my phobe cause I dont have wireless
[20:17] <genii-around> efialtis: You did not go 11.04 to 11.10 and then to 12.04, but just installed 12.04 ?
[20:17] <efialtis> lol...
[20:17] <efialtis> i just installed 12.04
[20:17] <efialtis> for begging
[20:17] <efialtis> to have a clear install
[20:17] <PoolShark_> TheLordOfTime: thanks for trying it... I'd have to think that a bug like that would have very high visibility by now
[20:17] <AndIrc___> I installed ubuntu fresh 12.04 wireless was working and after updates it stoped working
[20:17] <efialtis> when i was at 11.04 the wireless was ok but now not..
[20:18] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Can you connect by wired connection on that machine?
[20:18] <AndIrc___> let me tey 1 sex
[20:19] <genii-around> efialtis: Please put into pastebin results from these commands: sudo lshw -C network     and: lspci -nn
[20:19] <genii-around> efialtis: And then to give the URL of the pastebin so I can go see what it says there
[20:20] <efialtis> ok what is pastebin?
[20:20] <kostkon> !paste | efialtis
[20:22] <escott> PoolShark_, no issues linking that on debian here
[20:22]  * jhutchins_wk speculates that a pastebin might be a bit difficult if networking is broken.
[20:23] <AndIrc___> yes I can connect to the internet with the cable
[20:23] <genii-around> AndIrc___: OK, so same instructions as I just gave, please
[20:23] <genii-around> AndIrc___:  eg:  Please put into pastebin results from these commands: sudo lshw -C network and: lspci -nn
[20:23] <AndIrc___> I will join the irc from mu pc
[20:24] <AndIrc___> cause from the phone I cannot do anuthink
[20:24] <escott> PoolShark_, its a little strange that you are casting x to double. i wonder if removing that would make a difference.
[20:24] <efialtis> ok here is the first command
[20:24] <efialtis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646182/
[20:24] <efialtis> hope i did that correct
[20:24] <genii-around> efialtis: Yes :)
[20:25] <genii-around> efialtis: So in this case it's the second interface, the RALink we are interested in, since it says "unclaimed"
[20:26] <genii-around> efialtis: I still need now the: lspci -nn      for the vendor:device code for that RALink now
[20:26] <camfrye> join #gphoto
[20:26] <MoPac> [GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butloc ation doesn't appear in /home/****/.gvfs
[20:26] <genii-around> Work, returning 2-3 minutes, apologies
[20:26] <efialtis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646194/
[20:26] <efialtis> now?
[20:27] <christophoros> genii-around
[20:27] <christophoros> u want in pastebin? i am AndIrc___
[20:29] <iceroot> does the 12.04 server iso offer sw-raid during installation?
[20:29] <efialtis> genni around,did you get the last command?
[20:30] <christophoros> Genii-around here are the 2 commands :     http://pastebin.com/vxd7zeH2           &                           http://pastebin.com/K7zG0mbW
[20:31] <genii-around> Bak
[20:31] <christophoros> wb:)
[20:31] <genii-around> efialtis, christophoros Reading
[20:31] <efialtis> ok
[20:32] <christophoros> thanks
[20:33] <genii-around> efialtis: Preliminary searching shows you may have a more complicated issue. Please stand by.
[20:33] <efialtis> ok mate,thanks a lot
[20:34] <styol> Hey there. Does anyone by chance have any recommendations for multiple server code deployment or remote control of a fleet of ubuntu servers? Any input would be great
[20:35] <genii-around> !b43 | christophoros   ...Please try this
[20:35] <christophoros> 1 sec
[20:39] <escott> styol, there are lots... ive heard of puppet some
[20:39] <escott> styol, you might try #ubuntu-server to see if they have more experience
[20:39] <genii-around> efialtis: Odd,  it was working in 11.04 you say?
[20:39] <yourimym1>  hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works 
[20:39] <efialtis> yes,working good
[20:39] <genii-around> efialtis: I'm finding you are needing the rt3290sta driver but it seems not to be included yet
[20:39] <styol> escott: awesome, thanks a bunch
[20:40] <mehdi> guys how can i re-enable pulseaudio bar in the panle?
[20:40] <timoguin> Does anyone know how to disable the "Record your encryption passphrase" notification that pops up after adding a user with an encrypted home directory? The reason I'm asking is because I'm writing a script to add users and record the passphrase automatically. Don't want my users to see the popup.
[20:40] <christophoros> genii-around shall i restart the pc now ?
[20:40] <efialtis> so what i have to do now? :S
[20:40] <styol> escott: I've checked out puppet for a bit, pretty nutty elaborate but possibly what is needed indeed
[20:40] <escott> timoguin, then how on earth are they to ever decrypt their directory?
[20:40] <genii-around> christophoros: Did all the steps successfully complete?
[20:40] <christophoros> i think so
[20:41] <timoguin> escott: They won't. IT will do it because we'll have the passphrase recorded ourselves.
[20:41] <escott> timoguin, nm. i get it your script will do it for them
[20:41] <genii-around> efialtis: If you feel brave, you can make the the driver manually: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/wireless-ralink-rt3290-not-working-on-asus
[20:41] <escott> timoguin, i thought you were running the script on their behalf or something
[20:41] <genii-around> christophoros: Then I would say yes :)
[20:41] <genii-around> efialtis: ( the instructions would be the same for 12.04 and 12.10 )
[20:42] <christophoros> no need to restart
[20:42] <christophoros> its fixed
[20:42] <christophoros> :)
[20:42] <christophoros> Thanks alot
[20:42] <efialtis> i feel brave but this link talk about asus and i have hp laptop..
[20:42] <FloodBot1> christophoros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <genii-around> christophoros: You're welcome
[20:43] <genii-around> efialtis: The crucial thing is the vendor:devic e code, which is 1814:3290
[20:43] <genii-around> ( not the laptop make, etc )
[20:45] <defiantredpill> I have an issue with my new mouse, I don't know how to swap 2 of the buttons(middle and special) as xinput classifies the special one as KeyClass and not a ButtonClass. (key[133]=down, the super key)
[20:45] <efialtis> one last question.How can something working on a "last year" version and now not?
[20:45] <escott> defiantredpill, you probably couldnt at least not easily
[20:45] <defiantredpill> i was afraid of that
[20:46] <squ1d> Anyone know why using pptp vpn on Ubuntu 12.04 will hang while under higher traffic loads with "pppd[17745]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd"
[20:46] <genii-around> efialtis: There was a bunch of stuff changed since then
[20:46] <christophoros> genii-around i have 1 more hard disk in my pc witch i cannot see how can u mount it ?
[20:47] <efialtis> hmmmm,so i have to find 11.04 and give it a try
[20:47] <squ1d> when on 11.04 pptp will stay connected for days
[20:48] <genii-around> christophoros: Can you pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l  ?
[20:48] <squ1d> or was 11.04 the last known good version of ubuntu?
[20:48] <Peyam> 10.10 lts
[20:48] <Peyam> 10.04 lts
[20:49] <efialtis> anyway,thanks a lot genii-around!i start downloading the 11.04 again.Good night and  really thx again!
[20:49] <genii-around> efialtis: Best luck!
[20:50] <christophoros> http://pastebin.com/BuNLDbFQ
[20:50]  * squ1d pulls hair out
[20:51] <genii-around> christophoros: So something like: make a directory in media called maybe in this case sdb1:   sudo mkdir /media/sdb1       then: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[20:53] <squ1d> Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xfe87
[20:53] <squ1d> anyone seen this with pptp/pppd client?
[20:53] <squ1d> i've searched google for several months now with no solution
[20:53] <christophoros> genii-around thanks alot
[20:53] <squ1d> started with Ubuntu 12.04
[20:54] <squ1d> my 11.04 machine works great
[20:54] <genii-around> christophoros: If it says something like "must specify filesystem" or so, then install package ntfsprogs then try again
[20:54] <squ1d> Help!
[20:55] <matlock> so
[20:55] <christophoros> genii-around Thanks alot
[20:55] <matlock> say i wanna build ubuntu
[20:55] <matlock> with the android kernel
[20:55] <matlock> how would i go about that...
[20:55] <genii-around> christophoros: You're welcome.
[20:55] <cgermann> Squ1d could you be a bit more spasiffic?
[20:56] <christophoros> genii-around how can i identify my graphics card and install the drivers ? cause i have 2 graphics cards.. 1 onboard and 1 ATI raedeon
[20:56] <genii-around> matlock: You'd probably want to ask them in #android-dev
[20:56] <yeehaw> squ1d: http://askubuntu.com/questions/144456/pptp-connection-disconnect
[20:56] <squ1d> cgermann: I use Ubuntu 12.04 desktop with a pptp vpn
[20:56] <squ1d> cgermann: works fine on older ubuntu versions but now is very intermittent
[20:56] <kingbeast> christophoros, just go with the ati graphics
[20:57] <christophoros> genii-around yes but how i find the drivers ?
[20:57] <fluvvell> stupid question, when attempting to update a 10.04.4 LTS to 120.04.1 desktop using CDROM is Booting the CD the only option, as autorun.inf seems to be only for windows wubi.exe?
[20:57] <matlock> why not ubuntu-dev or here genii-around
[20:57] <squ1d> yeehaw: i tried all of that to no avail
[20:57] <squ1d> yeehaw: nothing worked, turned off all compression, etc
[20:57] <genii-around> christophoros: In that case just to run the jockey or jockey-gtk and install the restricted drivers
[20:58] <matlock> i mean technically, this is ubuntu related considering 'ubuntu for phones' uses the same kernel as whatever android version they built it on
[20:58] <squ1d> pptp very buggy on 12.04 and i've tried all google has to offer
[20:58] <squ1d> about to switch distros since I need this vpn connection
[20:58] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i am trying to find a program equivalent or adobe after effects on my lubuntu system any ideas
[20:58] <genii-around> matlock: Because if you were trying to compile an android kernel from in Ubuntu thats where you would go. If you're trying to comile an Ubuntu kernel from in side android, then #android-dev is the right place instead
[20:58] <matlock> no
[20:58] <chiliblue> Running 12.04 lts and alacarte crashes on me when I try and add a app to it? Can anyone help me figure out why this is happening
[20:59] <matlock> i wanna compile an android kernel FOR ubuntu
[20:59] <matlock> not IN
[20:59] <christophoros> genii-around its the Additional drivers from ubuntu software center right ?
[20:59] <genii-around> matlock: Well, conceivably ask in bothe places then
[20:59] <genii-around> christophoros: Yes, exactly
[21:00] <christophoros> genii-around trying it
[21:00] <Ez0v3rR1d3> genii-around got a question can u help
[21:00] <cgermann> squ1d i have never used that vpn but i hate saying this but i found OpenSUSE or redhat to be better at VPN connections
[21:00] <genii-around> Ez0v3rR1d3: Depends on the question
[21:00] <squ1d> cgermann: hehe, but i like my desktop!!
[21:00] <bazhang> !equivalents | Ez0v3rR1d3 have a look
[21:00] <squ1d> cgermann: about to reinstall with mint or other
[21:01] <Ez0v3rR1d3> ok thanks
[21:01] <yeehaw> squ1d: No option to use openvpn or something?
[21:01] <genii-around> matlock: It is also just recommended to me that you may want to try in #ubuntu-arm
[21:01] <squ1d> yeehaw: working on that actually but i use pptp for many devices for its simplicity
[21:01] <cgermann> squ1d mint inharets the same VPN issues from ubuntu
[21:01] <squ1d> cgermann: thats what I'm afraid of
[21:01] <squ1d> same repos
[21:02] <matlock> genii-around, thx man
[21:02] <squ1d> http://askubuntu.com/questions/144456/pptp-connection-disconnect <- i've tried everything here and same thing
[21:02] <fluvvell> nearst, are you online?
[21:03] <Ez0v3rR1d3> no help there genni any other ideas that may help me out
[21:03] <squ1d> pptp worked great on 9.10, 11.04 and my android devices.  12.04 changed something
[21:04] <squ1d> i'm beginning to think it has something to do with the newer 3.2.x kernel
[21:04] <chiliblue> ok on bugs.launchpad.net found my bug already reported. Status says fix released. How do I get the fix
[21:04] <chiliblue> ?
[21:05] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/1145/is-there-an-alternative-to-adobe-aftereffects  Ez0v3rR1d3 read this
[21:06] <jhutchins_wk> squ1d: It's not all the same repos - if it were, it'd just be debian.
[21:06] <squ1d> jhutchins_wk: ok, I thought mint used same repos & packages just different desktop look & feel
[21:06] <pfb-enseq> Hello, all. I'm running Tomcat 7 (7.0.26.0) w/ OpenJDK Java Runtime Environment 1.7.0_09 on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. I installed Tomcat using apt-get and things seemed to be working fine. However, once I rebooted the server I can't access Tomcat (from localhost or the LAN). When I issue "/etc/init.d//tomcat7 status" it reports that the "Tomcat servlet engine is running with pid 1342". When I issue
[21:06] <pfb-enseq> "lsof -i TCP:8080" it shows that its listening. Status of ufw is inactive. Any ideas? (FWIW, I submitted this over in #tomcat but no one's home)
[21:07] <jhutchins_wk> squ1d: Some of them are the same, some things aren't.  It's probably worth trying at least.
[21:07] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: telnet to locahost 8080
[21:07] <jhutchins_wk> squ1d: debian might regress the bugs that are in the newer distros.
[21:07] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: verify that pid exists
[21:07] <pfb-enseq> PID exists.
[21:08] <pfb-enseq> telnet > Name or service not known
[21:08] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: what command did you use exactly
[21:09] <pfb-enseq> telnet localhost:8080
[21:09] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: that's not what I said
[21:09] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: please look at what I said do
[21:10] <Ez0v3rR1d3> pfb-enseq
[21:10] <Ez0v3rR1d3> got a question
[21:10] <pfb-enseq> I don't know how to do that - what command should I use?
[21:10] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: telnet localhost 8080
[21:10] <squ1d> jhutchins_wk: does mint use the same network-manager-pptp like Ubuntu?
[21:11] <pfb-enseq> Figured it out
[21:11] <pfb-enseq> Connection refuesed
[21:11] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: so it's not listening
[21:11] <ikonia> or something is blocking you
[21:11] <pfb-enseq> \ufw is inactive.
[21:11] <pfb-enseq> Only thing that changed was that I rebooted the server.
[21:11] <squ1d> pfb-enseq: check iptables -L -n too
[21:12] <jhutchins_wk> squ1d: No idea.  Ask mint.
[21:12] <pfb-enseq> I see nothing in the output from iptables indicating anything at all about 8080. Everything's zeroes.
[21:13] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: zero is "all interfaces"
[21:13] <ikonia> eg: 0.0.0.0 is everything
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> pfb-enseq: Can you connect to localhost?
[21:13] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: stop tomcat and re-run the test
[21:14] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: (the telnet test)
[21:14] <pfb-enseq> I am SSH'd into the system. Apache responds locally and from the LAN.
[21:14] <ikonia> if it still says connection refused something is stopping you getting to the daemon
[21:15] <pfb-enseq> I stopped tomcat and tried telnet again w/ same result - Connection refused.
[21:15] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: ok, so something is blocking you
[21:15] <squ1d> pfb-enseq: you can try flushing your iptables rules too especially if the default INPUT Policy is DENY, switch to ACCEPT
[21:15] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: how are you starting it ?
[21:15] <pfb-enseq> sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat7 start
[21:16] <squ1d> pfb-enseq: you sure its running?  try "ps -ax | grep -i tomcat"
[21:16] <AndIrc___> genii-around ?
[21:16] <pfb-enseq> ps reports it running, yes.
[21:17] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Back and forth from working, but yes, currently around for 5-10 minutes :)
[21:17] <AndIrc___> genii-around I have restarted pc and now when I am in the login screen I can see the horizontal bar  with is up. but when I login I dont see any bars
[21:18] <AndIrc___> genii-around I cannot do anythink.
[21:18] <AndIrc___> maybe I switch off a service ?
[21:18] <matlock> #ubuntu-dev
[21:19] <matlock> shit
[21:19] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Unfortunately I am in KDE and not Unity right now, so I cannot guide you through checking the NetworkManager and so on :(
[21:19] <matlock> and then it no exist
[21:19] <ikonia> matlock: drop the language
[21:19] <ikonia> matlock: it's not welcome or called for
[21:19] <ikonia> matlock: what do you want ?
[21:19] <genii-around> matlock: -try with -devel instead of -dev
[21:19] <squ1d> pfb-enseq: check your tomcat logs for anything strange
[21:19] <matlock> thx
[21:19] <ikonia> -devel is not for the android kernel
[21:19] <ikonia> it is NOT a support channel
[21:19] <matlock> sorry bout the s bomb
[21:19] <sp_> bbak
[21:20] <ikonia> #ubuntu-devel is for the development of the ubuntu platform
[21:20] <jhutchins_wk> pfb-enseq: Does netstat -lnp | grep 8080 show tomcat listening on 8080?
[21:20] <AndIrc___> genii-around u understoud my problem rho right? when I get in ubuntu I only see my desktop and nothink ealse not the two bars I cant do anythink
[21:20] <jhutchins_wk> pfb-enseq: Otherwise netstat -lnp | grep tomcat and see where it IS listening.
[21:20] <AndIrc___> genii-around can u explain here my problem maybe they can help me ?
[21:20] <pfb-enseq> jhutchins_wk - yes it does
[21:22] <genii-around> AndIrc___: This is just after you put the restricted driver for your video?
[21:22] <AndIrc___> yes
[21:23] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Looks like then some compositing failure ... is the ATI/AMD  fglrx one you put?
[21:23] <AndIrc___> I think so
[21:24] <xaxisx> hey #ubuntu, with Ubuntu for Phones -- is there plans to make it run on the iPhone (via a jailbreak mechanism or something)?
[21:24] <ikonia> no
[21:24] <xaxisx> what about Android phones? if not, will it just be custom ubuntu phone hardware?
[21:25] <ikonia> no idea
[21:25] <ikonia> xaxisx: try #ubuntu-phone
[21:25] <xaxisx> okay, thanks
[21:25] <AndIrc___> genii-around shall I reinstal ubuntu  ?
[21:26] <genii-around> AndIrc___: OK.  So I would do: ctrl-alt-F1 to gain a console. Then login, and do: sudo stop lightdm && sudo apt-get remove fglrx*   && sudo start lightdm
[21:26] <genii-around> AndIrc___: No reinstall yet :)
[21:26] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Then alt-f7 to go back to login screen
[21:27] <syntroPi> xaxisx, afaik it would use android driver architecture
[21:29] <pfb-enseq> FWIW, I rebooted the server again and now I can telnet to port 8080 but still don't get any pages from browsers.
[21:29] <ikonia> pfb-enseq: ok so that shows it's now listening, which is good, but something is blocking you externally
[21:31] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Oh, and I suggest also:  sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old  ... apologies for not including that earlier. It may still try to load the fglrx which will no longer be there if the xorg.conf file still refers to it
[21:32] <AndIrc___> genni-around it says me stop. unknown source
[21:33] <syntroPi> !telnet | pfb-enseq
[21:33] <genii-around> AndIrc___: During which step?
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> pfb-enseq: What happens when you do GET<enter> in telnet
[21:34] <syntroPi> oops sorry
[21:34] <Pizza90> hi all, does anyone know if there is a good alternative to the driver manager jockey?on ubuntu 12.04 i have tons of problems with it so i'd like to remove ti and add a better manager
[21:34] <AndIrc___> genni-around the first step
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> pfb-enseq: At this point I'd probably start looking at tomcat's error log, as it will probably explain why there's a connection but no content.
[21:36] <genii-around> AndIrc___: Does the result of the command: apt-cache policy fglrx      show it as installed ?
[21:37] <AndIrc___> genii-around yes it is install
[21:37] <AndIrc___> tell me again the command maube I mistypes
[21:38] <AndIrc___> cause I am from my note2 phone in here now
[21:38] <genii-around> AndIrc___: OK, so then just: sudo apt-get remove fglrx        (in this case)
[21:38] <pfb-enseq> Digging through tomcat log(s) now....
[21:39] <AndIrc___> genii-around done
[21:39] <genii-around> AndIrc___: So the entire sequence would be:  sudo stop lightdm        then: sudo apt-get remove fglrx      then: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old      then: sudo start lightdm   then: alt-f7
[21:40] <AndIrc___> genii-around it says me stop:unknown instance
[21:41] <genii-around> AndIrc___: If it says that when you try to stop lightdm, thats fine
[21:41] <genii-around> ( or if you already moved the xorg.conf successfully)
[21:41] <nikrep> I have been getting into linux and a lot of the applications I use require mysql - just as a quick question is it possible to build a centralised mysql server and have the different application instances reference it?
[21:42] <nikrep> of course i mean the use of multiple servers referencing a dedicated server running mysql
[21:42] <blkadder> nikrep: That is generally how it works.
[21:43] <AndIrc___> genii-around u are the best =)))))
[21:43] <squ1d> nikrep: yes, that is pretty common
[21:43] <nikrep> ok currently i have a install of mysql on each server and did think that its not really the best solution
[21:43] <squ1d> nikrep: For instance, one server for web and another higher powered one for mysql (higher cpu usage generally)
[21:44] <blkadder> nikrep: Well, it depends on your needs and what you are using it for...
[21:44] <blkadder> Best is a very relative term.
[21:45] <christophoros> genii-around Thanks alot it worked i just had to start the last one
[21:45] <genii-around> AndIrc___: So you are back up to your original desktop once again?
[21:45] <christophoros> genii-around yes it worked perfectly
[21:45] <genii-around> christophoros: :) Cool
[21:46] <nikrep> at present only for two separate applications, one of them being mediawiki - ill check the documentation again to see how to configure the application to reference an external mysql
[21:46] <christophoros> genii-around how can i see now if my ATI card is installed and not the Intel on board ?
[21:46] <nikola> Hello, I have a problem with ath9k. Signal is very weak (I have to next to router to see it). nohwcrypt=1 and compiling compat-wireless did not fix my problem.  System information dump http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646573/. Any help would be appreciated.
[21:46] <nikrep> thanks for the quick responces
[21:47] <genii-around> christophoros: I think that setting would be in your motherboard BIOS, whether to use the onboard or not as default
[21:47] <AcidRain2012> 502 bad gateway. how can i go about analyzing this issue?
[21:47] <AcidRain2012> i just moved houses so i have a new isp
[21:47] <christophoros> genii-around : ill go check it now
[21:47] <christophoros> genii-around : ill keep u posted if u are on :)
[21:51] <seferis> Hi all! I just did apt-get install for oracle-java7-installer. but the application says jdk, jre... are these two the same as what i've installed?
[21:55] <tad-pole> seferis  Java Development Kit, Java Runtime Environment
[21:55] <AcidRain2012> 502 bad gateway. how can i go about analyzing this issue?
[21:56] <tad-pole> One for making one for running
[21:56] <NewbieBodhi> hello
[21:57] <NewbieBodhi> does anyone know how i can view the charakters ä,ö,ü, and ß in my c programms?
[21:57] <pdiddles03> I need some help with a triple boot macbook pro
[21:57] <NewbieBodhi> i set terminal and editor to UTF-8 but it don't works
[21:57] <jerm1027> I would like help setting up a network printer. Specifically, I'm getting an error about services not running for network detection
[21:58] <NewbieBodhi> only shows a (?) in a circle
[21:58] <jacklk_> Hi, I'm having a strange issue with my Nvidia GT 610 card - it seems to be locked to a constant 60FPS, how can I change that?
[21:59] <jerm1027> @jacklk Disable V-sync
[22:00] <jacklk_> I have...
[22:00] <pdiddles03> I installed ubuntu on my macbookpro 8,2
[22:00] <aksel633> seferis: JRE --> Java Runtime Environment (Java execution environment), JDK --> The Java Development Kit
[22:00] <jacklk_> I still only get 60FPS *exactly* no matter what game I play.
[22:00] <pdiddles03> and now, after rebulding the mbr, windows sits at the "starting windows" screen and does nothing
[22:00] <Elysium> is there any way to reset NickServ password?
[22:00] <jacklk_> Some games I should be getting over 100FPS.
[22:01] <jerm1027> what about games where you should get below 60FPS?
[22:01] <jacklk_> jerm1027: I suppose I would get less...
[22:01] <Pici> jacklk_: sounds like its just being constrained by your refresh rate, which is normal.
[22:01] <MB_wrk> Okay, so I need some help resizing my LVM partition.
[22:01] <jacklk_> Pici: It works fine on Windows...
[22:01] <jerm1027> What's your monitor's refresh rate?
[22:02] <jacklk_> uhm..
[22:03] <AcidRain2012> 502 bad gateway. how can i go about analyzing this issue?
[22:03] <jacklk_> Pici: I can't find out, no website will tell me.
[22:03] <malik_> hi all, How can i completely disable password authentication in ubuntu 10.10. This question might sound silly but i think there is some hardware problem and i can not do sudo. It needs me to do dozens of attempts before the password is accepted. So i want to disable the password authentication at all.
[22:04] <malik_> can anyone help me please?
[22:04] <jacklk_> However, I get the FPS I should do on Windows.
[22:04] <pdiddles03> HHHHEELLLLOOO?
[22:04] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Did you manually configure your connection or is it just using dhcp from the router/modem/other ?
[22:05] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: i manually configured
[22:06] <AcidRain2012> it was just working, but i did the updates and it started this again
[22:06] <AcidRain2012> could it be my domain hosting? i use godaddy
[22:06] <jacklk_> Pici: jerm1027: do you think my monitor has issues with Linux?
[22:06] <pdiddles03> uesless!
[22:07] <Pici> jacklk_: You know you won't be able to see any higher FPS because your monitor simply doesn't refresh any faster than that, right?
[22:07] <jacklk_> Pici: yeah
[22:07] <Pici> jacklk_: even if it says you're getting a higher FPS
[22:07] <jacklk_> I need to find a solution to fix this though
[22:08] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: So this is a physical machine or some VM at GoDaddy ?
[22:08] <jacklk_> is my monitor generally not fully compatible with Linux? I've never heard of drivers for monitors
[22:08] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: this is a physical machine. godaddy points to my machine
[22:08] <AcidRain2012> "502 bad gateway - response error a bad response was received from another proxy server or the destination origin server" is the full error
[22:08] <DeadWeasel> How to get the janitor to actually RUN in 12.04 LTS?
[22:09] <malik_> can anyone help me please with the authentication failure problem?
[22:09] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Are you trying to reach this machine from another machine inside the same network?
[22:09] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: could you tell me wher ethere is a log of this on my box so i can get more information?
[22:09] <Cogboy> I'm having webcam problems. When I use Cheese, it works fine, but if I try to use it on something like Omegle, the camera goes missing.
[22:10] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: no, im trying to reach it from my phone. it was just working right before i did updates
[22:10] <jacklk_> Pici: the refresh rate is 60HZ
[22:10] <deav> How do I re run the setup network configuration script on ubuntu server 12.04 with the installation disk in the cdrom?
[22:10] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Since it can't make it to your box, what log would that box have?
[22:10] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: i just connected my phone to the network, and it gavve me an "Unable to Connect" error
[22:11] <jacklk_> Pici: it should be much more, but I am unable to change it :(
[22:11] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: well... my server is indeed returning the 502 error isnt it?
[22:11] <Cogboy> Hello?Can someone PM me regarding my problem?
[22:12] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: can i assume this is an issue with godaddy?
[22:12] <DeadWeasel> Can anyone point me to a good quad core conkyrc?  Also for AMD graphics card?
[22:12] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Well, or maybe your router. Try checking the apache logs (assuming you are running that) which would be in /var/log/apache2/       someplace along with the regular access logs
[22:13] <AcidRain2012> i already did. i didnt see anything that would indicate that apache was ever being touched by anything.
[22:13] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: May want to do a traceroute from outside the network to the IP your box is supposed to be on
[22:13] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: eg: is it even getting to that or some other machine fail in the middle?
[22:14] <KrisB> hello. do I need non-free drivers for compiz effects?
[22:14] <Cogboy> I'm having webcam problems. When I use Cheese, it works fine, but if I try to use it on something like Omegle, the camera goes missing.
[22:15] <christophoros> genii-around any ideas where to download vga_switcheroo ?
[22:15] <genii-around> christophoros: Sorry, no.
[22:15] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: bah, wtf dude. my ip changed!
[22:15] <AcidRain2012> how did this happen?
[22:16] <AcidRain2012> why did it happen is the bigger question
[22:16] <christophoros> genii-around i cannot switch from bios the graphics card. before on windows i could change it from insite windows
[22:16] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Are you supposed to have a static IP from your ISP?
[22:16] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: yes sir
[22:16] <plundra> Is there really no ident-server available in the main repository?
[22:16] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Then thats probably where the issue is
[22:16] <agu10^> I set up a DNS server at my linux amazon cloud VPS ( 54.235.108.222 ). And on my virtualbox ubuntu, i set /etc/resolv.conf to use my remote DNS server. However, on the client I cannot reach google.com nor my own domains. I can reach them on the server though.
[22:16] <plundra> I've tried quite hard finding one, but I can't find one. This is on precise, btw.
[22:17] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Oh, wait... you mean internal LAN ip of the box changed, or your extrnal facing IP changed?
[22:17] <malik_> hi all, How can i completely disable password authentication in ubuntu 10.10. This question might sound silly but i think there is some hardware problem and i can not do sudo. It needs me to do dozens of attempts before the password is accepted. So i want to disable the password authentication at all.
[22:17] <malik_> can anyone help me please with the authentication failure problem?
[22:17] <AcidRain2012> external! this is some bs! they just hooked it up today and i was so happy to have internet back on. now i have to deal with this......
[22:18] <OHNO> malik_: thats not a good idea, at all, in any way shape or form
[22:18] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Well, at least now you know to call!
[22:18] <genii-around> *know WHO to call, rather!
[22:18] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: lol yeah good point
[22:19] <malik_> OHNO, i don't see any other option
[22:19] <AcidRain2012> genii-around: i set my router to use a static ip, and NOT use a dynamic ip from isp. will this work?
[22:20] <john_redmond> hello room
[22:20] <christophoros> genii-around how can i run scripts ?
[22:21] <malik_> OHNO, or may be if you can help me change the default ubuntu authenticatio system to anyother system.
[22:22] <christophoros> how can i run scripts ?:)
[22:22] <frvefan42> hello
[22:22] <tad-pole> Hiya
[22:22] <john_redmond> hi frvefan
[22:23] <genii-around> christophoros: Generally ./scriptname    if it's in the same directory, with sudo in front if needs admin access
[22:24] <yourimym1> hello , why after removing nvidia-current driver and get noueva back systems runs slower than the normal i've used nouevau
[22:24] <genii-around> AcidRain2012: Unless you also know the specific netmask/gateway/broadcast it's better to leave it at dhcp
[22:25] <christophoros> genii-around go here if you can http://asusm51ta-with-linux.blogspot.com/   i followed all steps.. on step 3 what i do ???\
[22:28] <test__> hey, does anyone know how to configure pulseaudio?
[22:28] <genii-around> christophoros: You would copy all the contens of that window, then paste them into a file called switch_between_cards.sh  in some directory like maybe /usr/local/bin which you should make, then issue sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/switch_between_cards.sh, then you issue: sudo /usr/local/bin/switch_between_cards.sh
[22:30] <genii-around> christophoros: So first something like: sudo mkdir /usr/local   ( it may exist already ) then sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin   then gksudo gedit /usr/local/bin/switch_between_cards.sh    ...copy the contents in, save file... then sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/change_between_cards.sh
[22:31] <genii-around> etc
[22:31]  * genii-around goes for a coffee
[22:33] <test__> hey, does anyone know how to configure pulseaudio?
[22:34] <kostkon> test__, what's your problem
[22:34] <test__> well, i can't use my mic
[22:35] <kostkon> test__, what do you mean by that
[22:35] <test__> it's all fine without pulseaudio
[22:35] <test__> it's mute
[22:35] <test__> i mean it's deaf
[22:35] <test__> i checked in alsamixer
[22:35] <test__> and it's unmuted, and put to 100
[22:36] <kostkon> test__, how did you test it without pulse?
[22:36] <test__> arecord -d 3 testing.wav
[22:36] <test__> this way
[22:37] <drlaz> how can i obtain a laptop for my ministry, 'rents don't like me using my numbers on the net
[22:37] <drlaz> ubuntu laptop i mean exactly
[22:37] <tad-pole> drlaz: The store?
[22:37] <kostkon> test__, did you try to set up your mic in the ubu sound prefs?
[22:38] <test__> i have kubuntu
[22:38] <viator_> doing an upgrade to 12.10 i get linux-image-3.2.0-37-generic-pae subprocess installation scripped returned error exit status 1
[22:38] <drlaz> oh ok
[22:38] <viator_> says its doen with updated wants me to reboot
[22:38] <kostkon> test__, ok. did you try to setup your mic in the kde sound prefs?
[22:38] <drlaz> well they sent me a ballistic laptop an' it went back without anything on it
[22:39] <viator_> im afraid there will be a problem if i do
[22:39] <viator_> any ideas?
[22:39] <test__> well there's only a multimedia section in the system settings
[22:40] <test__> i got to a list of pulseaudio devices
[22:40] <kostkon> test__, and?
[22:40] <MoPac> Hi - I really need help with changing or adding a GVFS mount point if anybody can spare a minute
[22:40] <test__> for capturing, playback, and video recording
[22:40] <test__> it only lists pulse's stuff
[22:40] <builder34593> hi- the flash player settings are grayed. can any1 help me?
[22:40] <test__> "built-in audio analog stereo"
[22:41] <kostkon> test__, in the capturing section, what options are available
[22:41] <test__> only the one i mentioned
[22:42] <bulletrulz> brainwash
[22:42] <kostkon> test__, you could try with pavucontrol
[22:43] <test__> no luck there either..
[22:43] <kostkon> test__, what do you mean
[22:45] <test__> well in the input devices there's 'built-in audio analog stereo' and it has a port called 'internal mic'
[22:45] <test__> it's on 100% and yet there's no sound
[22:45] <test__> BUT when i listen to music, and say 'arecord -d 4 test.wav' in the console it records the music
[22:47] <OHNO> malik_: i still dont understand the problem....
[22:47] <OHNO> but i can assure you, thats not the answer
[22:48] <Naphatul> has anyone set up a DE from the ubuntu minimal iso?
[22:49] <Evee> Anyone knows a good syslog server for a few ubuntu servers a random debian dist and a few windows 7 machines?
[22:49] <christophoros> Hello how can i  do this ??? :::::   """"The vga_switcheroo mechanism will only be active when the kernel is booted with either the "modeset=1" kernel option, and/or the "nomodeset" option being absent. """"
[22:54] <genii-around> christophoros: eg: gksudo /etc/default/grub   ... make a line there reading: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="modeset=1"   ... then save file, then issue: sudo update-initramfs -u   and then: sudo update-grub
[22:54] <genii-around> christophoros: the first part should read gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:54] <ponyofdeath> hi, why does ubuntu not look for .termcap or .terminfo in my local dir for my terminnal's info?
[22:56] <christophoros> genii-around nothink comes up when i do gksudo /etc/default/grub
[22:56] <genii-around> christophoros: "<genii-around> christophoros: the first part should read gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[22:57] <tad-pole> Whats with all the root IRCers
[22:58] <k1l_> !rootirc | tad-pole
[22:58] <christophoros> genii-around hristophoros@christophoros-M17xR3:~$ sudo ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[22:58] <christophoros> ls: cannot access /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory
[22:58] <christophoros> and i did all of the steps
[22:59] <dchevak> hello
[22:59] <genii-around> christophoros: Did you reboot yet so that the "modeset=1" took effect?
[22:59] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. During last nights raid to the dump i found 2 skype phones dualphone rtx 3045.. Iv looked at google but did not find anything relevant.. is there some chanse to run them true linux.. If someone knows..
[23:00] <christophoros> genii-around doing now
[23:01] <tad-pole> k1l_ I understand that. :P
[23:02] <Tex_Nick> for the past couple months, the title-bar on firefox occasionally disappears ... i never seem to notice exactly when it happens or what is triggering it ... i've been restarting firefox and it always returns to a normal state ... i'm wondering if anyone has encountered the same problem ?
[23:04] <christophoros> genii-around can u please check this http://pastebin.com/tgdqDmYb
[23:04] <Tex_Nick> addendum ^ i'm running 12.10 with gnome classic de
[23:06] <genii-around> christophoros: You just ran updates or so?
[23:06] <christophoros> genii-around i am trying to install playonlinux
[23:06] <yourimym1> what is the best desktop for 12.10
[23:06] <christophoros> genii-around thats what i get everytime i try to install
[23:06] <genii-around> christophoros: Ah. Sorry, don't know much about that.
[23:06] <christophoros> genii-around ow okie :)
[23:07] <yourimym1> what is the best desktop for 12.10?
[23:07] <yourimym1> exept unity i mean
[23:07] <genii-around> yourimym1: You're asking this un #ubuntu? LOL...   anyhow... the best desktop is the one that you find easiest fits your working style or hardware limits
[23:08] <genii-around> yourimym1: The best way to know is try them and make your own choice
[23:08] <yourimym1> am asking useres here , what is the most suitable ,
[23:09] <genii-around> !polls
[23:09] <yourimym1> like taking recommandation here
[23:09] <genii-around> yourimym1: See above
[23:09] <yourimym1> oh
[23:09] <wiggmpk> is there any way to filter the discconect/connect messages in Empathy?
[23:10] <yourimym1> ok then , anyone familiar with nvidida drivers expert issues
[23:10] <bulletrulz> hey i have plank i need help theming it i t wont theme wright
[23:10] <yourimym1> ?
[23:10] <loticdescant77> everytime i boot up i get could not apply the stored configuration file for monitors Error on line 1 char1:document was empty or contained only whitespace
[23:10] <loticdescant77> any idea how fix this?
[23:12] <genii-around> yourimym1: What's your current nvidia driver issue you require help with?
[23:12] <srle> hy all, i'm working with click(http://www.read.cs.ucla.edu/click/) and i need to run some configuration file in the kernel mode, first of all i dont know how to switch to kernel mode, they said with command click-install but that command is not avaible
[23:13] <capoderra> question: I'm checking out my machine using a live USB.  How do I check to see what driver is being used for my nvidia graphics card on my laptop?
[23:13] <yourimym1> tried all listed nvidia drivers from additional tab , and tried manually , but wont works get blank desktop , so after i've returned to my noueveau systems runs extremliy slow
[23:13] <wagle> lsmod?
[23:13] <wagle> no, that wouldnt work..  i dont know
[23:14] <bulletrulz> can anybody help me with themeing plank please i put the theme in the right spot but it wont theme
[23:14] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646910/
[23:14] <Tex_Nick> capoderra:  in terminal try ... sudo lshw -c display
[23:15] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646917/
[23:17] <capoderra> excellent, it tells me my driver is nouveau. Thanks.  I'm going to try another driver to see if it solves my sound problem with my HDMI out to my TV.
[23:17] <genii-around> yourimym1: Did you make sure that "nomodeset" was in your grub loading line?
[23:17] <yourimym1> how i do this ?
[23:17] <Tex_Nick> capoderra:  ;-)
[23:18] <OHNO> get to the grub menu, hit e, add nomodeset to the line
[23:18] <yourimym1> the nomodeset
[23:20] <joshu> I need some help troubleshooting internet connectivity when connected via usb modem
[23:20] <joshu> the modem is connected and I have a wwan0 interface and ifconfig reports an IP address gateway etc. but I can't ping google.com or access the internet
[23:21] <seferis> Hi all! I just did apt-get install for oracle-java7-installer. but blogs for the application i want to use says jdk, jre... are these two the same as what i've installed?
[23:22] <genii-around> yourimym1: Apologies for lag, somewhat busy... basically to add with admin rights in /etc/default/grub   the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"    then issue sudo update-grub and sudo update-initramfs
[23:22] <genii-around> yourimym1: The most common thing that happens is that this doesn't get done and then both nouveau AND nvidia load and cause issues
[23:23] <mikeb111> hi there can someone help me with my ubuntu pls
[23:23] <OHNO> eeeeewwwwww java :3
[23:23] <OHNO> just ask your question mikeb111
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> mikeb111  if you're sweet
[23:24] <OHNO> asking if you can ask a question is just redundant silly =P
[23:24] <mikeb111> right im new to ubuntu
[23:25] <rexwin_> which package contains chkconfig
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> !find chkconfig
[23:26] <Tazen> Hey guys, I've recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 (64bit) - Couldn't be happier save for one issue. Programs take a really long time to open and load, my thoughts were that it may be a drivers issue. Any ideas what could be holding it back?
[23:26] <OHNO> theres a multitude of things it could be Tazen
[23:26] <OHNO> ram, cpu, other apps/processes
[23:27] <OHNO> more specific?
[23:27] <raptr> tazen: i had similar problem. went back and installed 32 bit and no problems
[23:27] <genii-around> yourimym1: Please, do not PM. I assist only in the open channel so that others may audit if I make a mistake
[23:27] <Tazen> raptr: Thanks for the tip, I'll give that a try. :D
[23:28] <yourimym1> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" right ?
[23:29] <rexwin_> i ran apt-get install bash-completion it doesnot come with the chkconfig utility
[23:29] <rootpt> any way to go back to the last correct configuration when boot?
[23:29] <jrib> rexwin_: what do you want to accomplish?  why do you want chkconfig?
[23:30] <OHNO> rexwin_: try google
[23:30] <OHNO> perhaps
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> OHNO  don't say that
[23:30] <rexwin_> to startup some services
[23:30] <jrib> rexwin_: be more specific.  chkconfig is not how that's done on ubuntu
[23:30] <rexwin_> OHNO, google for difficult things..this is not that complex
[23:31] <rexwin_> how to i make apache start when the system starts up
[23:31] <jrib> rexwin_: when you install apache through the repositories, apache will automatically be configured to start at boot
[23:31] <genii-around> yourimym1: Yes, that goes into the /etc/default/grub   file. Then you rebuild the boot stuff with the other two commands. After this you can install the nvidia driver you want. I would first recommend that you have installed beforehand though: build essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and dkms    so that the nvidia install works.
[23:32] <Stars> heya, what is the cmd to see all hard drives in GUI?
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> rexwin_  ubuntu server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server
[23:32] <genii-around> yourimym1: Insert the nomodeset in between the double quotes which have no content
[23:32] <loticdescant77> upgraded to 12.10 if i use kernel 3.5 usb doesnt work and my laptop screen is low res 4x3
[23:32] <rexwin_> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/chkconfig.8.html
[23:32] <raptr> im having problems after purging old libreoffice and installing 4.0 . all libreoffice apps are there, but will not launch when executed
[23:32] <jrib> rexwin_: what about it?
[23:32] <rexwin_> this says there is chkconfig package
[23:32] <genii-around> Work, returning to my computer in about 5 minutes
[23:32] <yourimym1> it's readonly can't edit
[23:33] <loticdescant77> if i use 3.2.0.37 same thing
[23:33] <jrib> rexwin_: as I said before.  chkconfig is not how you manipulate services on ubuntu.
[23:33] <OHNO> ffs
[23:33] <genii-around> yourimym1: eg: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[23:33] <loticdescant77> if i use 3.2.0.35 all works
[23:33]  * genii-around goes to see what boss is yelling for
[23:33] <rexwin_> oh , i see sysv-rc-conf
[23:34] <jrib> rexwin_: that will work for services that still use the old sys-v-init-style scripts, but not ones that have been converted to upstart
[23:35] <geniusrko> hi
[23:36] <geniusrko> Can anyone tell which is the best os depending on my computer
[23:36] <rexwin_> ok jrib
[23:36] <jrib> geniusrko: that's subjective
[23:37] <capoderra> question: I have an HDMI cable connecting my laptop to my TV.  How do I get the sound to output throught the TV speakers instead of the laptop speakers?
[23:37] <MonkeyDust> geniusrko  you're asking to promote the competition
[23:37] <loticdescant77> id like to use 3.5 but im not sure why usd etc doesnt work
[23:37] <yourimym1> sudo update-initramfs only ??
[23:37] <loticdescant77> usb*
[23:38] <Inferis> Can anyone reccomend a power manager for lxde?
[23:40] <wangzh> what's this.
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> wangzh  ubuntu support
[23:41] <genii-around> yourimym1: I'm back. What stage are you at now?
[23:41] <capoderra> question: I have an HDMI cable connecting my laptop to my TV.  How do I get the sound to output throught the TV speakers instead of the laptop speakers?
[23:41] <yourimym1> sudo update-initramfs
[23:42] <yourimym1> add -u ? for it ?
[23:42] <genii-around> yourimym1: ah.. sudo update-initramfs -u    , yes
[23:42] <yourimym1> and restart ?
 right im new to ubuntu   <mikeb111> but it seams like i have a big problem  <mikeb111> after installation ubuntu doasent reboot i got blac screen  <mikeb111> this is my only os no win   <mikeb111> and I have been strugeling for days now it is the same story with fedora 18 if that helps @ all   <mikeb111> I do have nvidia 6200 but there is nothing i can do as the U dont even start
[23:42] <genii-around> yourimym1: Not yet
[23:42] <yourimym1> next step ?
[23:42] <genii-around> yourimym1: Do you have the packages I described installed? build-essential, headers, dkms?
[23:43] <yourimym1> nouevau !
[23:44] <yourimym1> or nvidia !
[23:45] <genii-around> yourimym1: eg: to make sure, I would:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms          and then:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   . We may need to still edit the xorg.conf file so it loads nvidia as well
[23:45] <yourimym1> i've got nvidia-current
[23:47] <genii-around> yourimym1: It makes it somewhat difficult to assist when questions are answered with a non-sequitur
[23:48] <yourimym1> i've done the steps , now i choose nvidia current from additional drivers  tab ?
[23:48] <genii-around> yourimym1: Yes
[23:48] <yourimym1> done
[23:49] <genii-around> ( unless you already did the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current at commandline)
[23:49] <yourimym1> already marked
[23:49] <genii-around> yourimym1: OK. Now we need to see if it already exists in the xorg.conf. Please pastebin the file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   if it exists
[23:49] <yourimym1> but am afraid to restart , cuz last time i'd lost my desktop
[23:50] <genii-around> yourimym1: I haven't said to restart yet :)
[23:50] <avorio147> ciao
[23:51] <avorio147> !lista
[23:51] <genii-around> !it | avorio147
[23:52] <yourimym1> genii http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647065/
[23:52] <genii-around> yourimym1: Reading
[23:53] <genii-around> yourimym1: OK.  So now: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     ... and change fbdev to nvidia     then save
[23:54] <yourimym1> it's empty !!
[23:55] <genii-around> yourimym1: Did you use an uppercase X and not lowercase x in the "X11" part of the path?
[23:55] <yourimym1> upper case , X
[23:55] <yourimym1> i meant lower
[23:55] <capoderra> Should I be scared by: "warning this is an unstable beta driver, recommended for testers and early adopters only"?
[23:55] <yourimym1> copied from here ?
[23:57] <genii-around> yourimym1: Should be uppercase X.  At any rate, if you somehow have deleted the xorg.conf file, just copy what you put into the pastebin website and paste that into the empty file, replacing the fbdev with nvidia , as earlier described
[23:57] <yourimym1> this one ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647065/
[23:58] <SonikkuAmerica> capoderra: Depends. Do you want to get your hands dirty?
[23:58] <genii-around> yourimym1: Yes
 not really dirty.
[23:59] <yourimym1> done genii sir
[23:59] <genii-around> yourimym1: Very well. Now assuming file is saved, a reboot should do it.