[02:58] <tad-pole> Hello!
[03:47] <holstein> tad-pole: hey
[03:51] <tad-pole> How goes? :)
[03:51] <holstein> not bad
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[08:35] <contrapunctus> Hey, folks...have a look at this - http://www.iwasdoingallright.com/tools/ear_training/main/
[08:36] <contrapunctus> For some reason I'm not getting any sound in the app on that page =\ KXStudio on Ubuntu Studio 12.04. Sound in other programs (VLC etc) is normal.
[08:36] <contrapunctus> Please help?
[12:02] <holstein> !java
[12:02] <ubottu> To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.
[12:02] <holstein> contrapunctus: do you have java?
[12:03] <holstein> contrapunctus: its working fine for me..
[12:14] <contrapunctus> holstein, of course.
[12:14] <contrapunctus> java -version
[12:14] <contrapunctus> java version "1.7.0_09"
[12:14] <contrapunctus> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.3) (7u9-2.3.3-0ubuntu1~12.04.1)
[12:14] <contrapunctus> OpenJDK Server VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode)
[12:58] <contrapunctus> holstein?
[17:38] <agu10^> how can I install adobe after effects on ubuntu studio?
[17:42] <zequence> agu10^: It's not something Ubuntu Studio supports specifically, but it'll work the same way on any Ubuntu flavor
[17:42] <agu10^> ugh. i thought ubuntu studio allowed me to produce media
[17:43] <zequence> agu10^: On that assumption you are correct
[17:43] <agu10^> oh great. the adobe suite is the most popular among producers
[17:43] <agu10^> is there a way to run it?
[17:44] <zequence> But Adobe products are not open source, and thus not part of a default Ubuntu Studio installation. For Adobe support, you should turn to Adobe
[17:44] <agu10^> ubuntu studio uses full free open source software?
[17:44] <agu10^> only
[17:45] <zequence> Apart from a few blobs in the kernel (wifi drivers and such), yes
[17:45] <agu10^> so... mp3 decoding is FOSS?
[17:46] <zequence> Everything on the default installation is FOSS, yes
[17:46] <agu10^> great
[17:46] <agu10^> that means it will crash
[17:47] <agu10^> i mean. that means i can edit the code
[17:48] <zequence> If you want information on Adobe products, you can google on Adobe + Ubuntu. Whatever works on Ubuntu will work on Ubuntu Studio
[17:49] <agu10^> oh great
[17:49] <zequence> Especially for graphics and video, you don't really need Ubuntu Studio. Ubuntu Studio just offers you a set of preinstalled packages for all Ubuntu/Linux multimedia
[17:49] <agu10^> that's helpful
[17:50] <zequence> Or, a selected set of applications, that is
[17:50] <agu10^> that is extremely cool
[17:51] <zequence> agu10^: I'm a volunteer on this project, which means I do this on my free time. I'm not in the business of supporting Adobe, or any other company that already gets payed to support their customers
[17:52] <zequence> Also, I'm not totally sure we could distribute any of their "free" products either, for legal reasons
[17:52] <agu10^> they have free products?
[17:52] <agu10^> you mean freeware or free software?
[17:54] <zequence> I was being ironic, which is why I used the quotes. To my knowledge, they do not offer any free/libre software. Only some which does not cost you money to use or download. It might cost you in other ways though
[17:55] <agu10^> oh yes
[17:56] <agu10^> it would be great to have comparable free software competing against private, but it's just impossible since programmers get really high salaries for doing their stuff for big companies instead
[17:56] <agu10^> WINE is the best software for ubuntu
[17:56] <zequence> Actually, lots of free software is way ahead of proprietary software in reliablity and market share
[17:56] <zequence> Just not in every area
[17:58] <zequence> Linux supports the most hardware in the world, and is probably one of the biggest software projects, and the fastest moving in the world
[17:58] <zequence> Probably the area where Linux dominates the most is in super computers
[17:59] <zequence> But, that's of course not relevant for a desktop user
[17:59] <zequence> At the same time, the same kernel can be installed into a phone, or a car computer
[17:59] <zequence> Samsung TVs use it
[17:59] <zequence> It's everywhere
[18:00] <zequence> WINE is usually only good for one thing, and that's running Windows programs. I use it too, for steam mostly
[18:01] <zequence> But, now that Steam for Linux is making progress, I'm hoping in a few years, there's no reason to use Wine for anything anymore
[18:01] <zequence> It's good technology. It's amazing that you can run such complex Windows applications on other OSs
[18:02] <agu10^> adobe creative suite?
[18:02] <agu10^> almost no private software runs on linux!
[18:02] <agu10^> I'd say they should emulate OSX instead
[18:03] <zequence> Wine has a database for which software runs on it. I've never used Adobe Creative Suite, so I don't know if and how it works
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