[00:56] <Hyperiant> I'm running a laptop that has sound that only works when you have a particular entry in the alsa-base.conf file.  When this is added in Ubuntu or Lubuntu, it works on this particular laptop.  However, it doesn't work in Xubuntu.  Any idea how I can get my audio working again?
[00:56] <GridCube> it should work the same
[00:57] <holstein> yeah.. i would just double check
[00:57] <GridCube> are you sure you did the same things?
[00:57] <holstein> ubuntu and xubuntu have pulse, but lubntu doesnt
[00:57] <holstein> xubuntu *is* ubuntu...
[00:58] <Hyperiant> Yeah, I'm pretty sure I did the same thing; I made sure I wrote down the correct entry
[00:58] <holstein> Hyperiant: i would couble check.. and dont write them.. just copy paste
[00:59] <Hyperiant> The entry in particular is "options snd-hda-codex-realtek index=-2"
[00:59] <Hyperiant> wait..."codex"?
[01:00] <Hyperiant> I'm gonna try "codec" and reboot just to see if it works
[01:00] <Hyperiant> If it does, I'm going to feel really stupid
[01:08] <Hyperiant> Confirmed, I am an idiot; thanks though
[03:33] <evos> whats up!
[03:34] <evos> just joined from my iphone
[03:35] <well_laid_lawn> it's normally pretty quiet in here this time of day... not alot goes on
[03:41] <evos> i kinda noticed :p
[03:42] <evos> thanks for the info though. it's my first time with xubuntu. loving it so far!
[03:42] <well_laid_lawn> evos:  is it hard using irc on the phone?
[03:43] <evos> nah! the design is fabulous. ios mango lite irc
[03:44] <evos> the typing experience is good. but the ads in the lite version are really a bum. but i would buy the full blown app eventually
[03:44] <evos> you can join multiple channels, etc.
[03:44] <evos> no xdcc though haha
[03:44] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[03:45] <evos> is it more active during the day?
[03:46] <evos> ps what irc software u recommend for xubuntu?
[03:46] <well_laid_lawn> I like weechat which runs in a terminal
[03:47] <well_laid_lawn> and, well, it's day here now, in about 6 hours or so it'll pick up
[03:47] <evos> i will try it. not a huge terminal fan however
[03:48] <holstein> xchat is a nice GUI one
[03:48]  * holstein uses irssi
[03:48] <evos> thank you holstein :)
[03:48] <holstein> i started with weechat when i wanted to move to the command line with my chat.. its nice
[06:17] <dydzEz2> is there a way to browse usign the regular XFCE window browser in root
[06:17] <dydzEz2> instead of typing sudo nautilus
[06:27] <bazhang> gksudo thunar
[11:01] <xubuntu147> Hi to everybody! I need some help with Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop 64-bit that I've just installed alongside with Windows 8. When I select Xubuntu form grub the screen goes black and the LCD backlight goes off. The Xubuntu loading doesn't appear, but the login screen appears regularly after some seconds. How can I make the Xubuntu loading visible?
[11:01] <xubuntu147> Thanks in advance to anyone who will help me!
[11:03] <Pretender> xubuntu147, video ?
[11:03] <xubuntu147> Nvidia NVS 2100M
[11:04] <Pretender> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.html
[11:04] <Pretender> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/948053
[11:05] <Pretender> but you can try kill /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart. But better rollback to 12.04.1
[11:06] <xubuntu147> Can be a video driver problem? Notice that the loading screen shows up when shutting down!
[11:07] <Pretender> i thing it is video driver.
[11:08] <Pretender> try kill xorg.conf if he exists
[11:09] <xubuntu147> Ok thanks, i'll make some test or I'll rollback to 12.04
[11:38] <Pretender> Nvidia NVS 2100M
[11:39] <Pretender> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/948053
[11:39] <Pretender> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/948053
[11:39] <rockfreak> moin
[11:42] <rockfreak> hallo
[11:49] <Pretender> hello, i tested bot ubottu :0
[11:53] <MoL0ToV> http://pastebin.ca/2313123 how i can find in what package are include all these libs? so i can install missed (required) packages?
[11:56] <Pretender> MoL0ToV,  http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/ubuntu-main-i386/libogg0_1.3.0-4_i386.deb.html
[11:57] <MoL0ToV> apt-getalready installed... and others?
[11:58] <Pretender> use search on this site http://pkgs.org/
[11:58] <MoL0ToV> thx
[12:10] <xubuntu299> Hello, could I please know if an i5 intel processor along with 4 gb ram, works with the 32 bit of xubuntu?
[12:12] <koegs> xubuntu299: it does, but you could also use the 64bit
[12:13] <recon_lap> xubuntu299: should, but why put a 32bit os on a 64bit processor ?
[12:13] <xubuntu299> hmm i see, so i should reinstall  with the 64bit one?
[12:14] <recon_lap> xubuntu299: not that big a deal, you can use 32bit and it'll work fine
[12:15] <xubuntu299> will it recognize and use all of the processor cores?
[12:16] <recon_lap> xubuntu299: main use of 64bit os is memory management over 4gb I think
[12:17] <xubuntu299> So it doesnt matter i use the 32bit one? because i only have 4GB RAM
[12:20] <recon_lap> xubuntu299: 32bit works on 64bit cpu, 64bit works better :) it's up to you. you'll probably never notice the difference.
[12:20] <xubuntu299> hm okkay then, thanks
[12:22] <xubuntu299> but will the xubuntu 32 bit use all my processor cores?
[12:22] <recon_lap> xubuntu299: yes
[12:22] <bartzy> Hey
[12:22] <bartzy> I'm doing this in session startup:
[12:23] <bartzy> /usr/bin/xmodmap /home/bar/.Xmodmap
[12:23] <bartzy> But it doesn't work - maybe gets overwritten or something.
[12:23] <bartzy> When after login, I manually run this command, I get the desired effect.
[12:23] <bartzy> Any idea ?
[12:23] <recon_lap> xubuntu299: just make the decision, you want to reinstall or not? :)
[12:23] <bartzy> It's really annoying to have to execute this manually just to get the Capslock behave like Ctrl :\
[12:24] <xubuntu299> probably not
[12:24] <laite> bartzy: I have the same problem, I made an bug report on this some time ago
[12:24] <laite> everything else works but not capslock binding
[12:24] <bartzy> laite: You're using xmodmap ?
[12:24] <laite> yes
[12:24] <bartzy> Can you paste the bug url ?
[12:24] <laite> http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/Bug-9792-New-Can-t-bind-caps-lock-to-control-on-startup-td41270.html
[12:25] <laite> there you go ^^
[12:25] <bartzy> thanks
[12:25] <bartzy> That's so annoying :\
[12:25] <laite> especially when it worked still on xubuntu 12.04 :(
[12:25] <bartzy> :(
[12:25] <bartzy> laite: Can you update that bug if you find a solution ?
[12:26] <laite> sure; haven't found any, though
[12:26] <laite> it's not that much of a problem since I boot about once a month
[12:27] <laite> but as you said, annoying
[12:33] <bartzy> laite: What about sleeping and login ?
[12:33] <bartzy> Happens to me on that as well
[12:33] <bartzy> :|
[12:33] <bartzy> every time a xfce session is started
[12:33] <bartzy> or renewed or something
[12:34] <MoL0ToV> OpenEXR                 missing
[12:34] <MoL0ToV>    libuuid libraries       missing
[12:34] <MoL0ToV>   libuuid headers         missing
[12:34] <MoL0ToV> howto install?
[12:34] <MoL0ToV> i cannot find in apt..
[12:34] <laite> bartzy:  I have no use on sleeping or relogging on my home computer so couldn't say :P
[12:34] <bartzy> :]
[12:35] <laite> MoL0ToV: try looking them in synaptic, if you're compiling something you'll propably need *-dev versions
[12:36] <laite> 'openexr' and 'libuuid' both finds many packages
[12:37] <MoL0ToV> i try to install all... are small
[13:41] <marsje_> Hi. Looks like I changed something in lightdm.conf that causes my system not to start. How do I restore the original config? aptitude purge want to remove my whole system and aptitude reinstall doesn't do a thing
[13:46] <marsje_> ok, found it... I found there's a lightdm.log and told me I don't have a unity-greeter... changed it to lightdm-gtk-greeter
[13:49] <GridCube> how its "not starting"
[13:50] <GridCube> marsje_, ?
[13:51] <marsje_> GridCube: as in I don't get login screen nor a desktop
[13:51] <marsje_> GridCube: nor a error message on my screen (I get one in lightdm.conf though)
[13:52] <GridCube> ok do this, on a tty write: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[13:52] <GridCube> then reboot
[13:52] <marsje_> GridCube: I already solved it (see message above)
[13:52] <GridCube> oh
[13:52] <GridCube> :o
[13:52] <marsje_> GridCube: but as I understand it, aptitude reinstall reinstalls the files, EXCEPT the configuration files
[13:53] <GridCube> not those
[13:53] <marsje_> which is where the problem was
[13:54] <GridCube> :)
[13:54] <GridCube> good point
[13:54] <GridCube> though i think it replace those particular ones
[13:55] <marsje_> I tried aptitude reinstall lightdm and that didn't work
[13:55] <marsje_> not even when I moved the config
[13:55] <GridCube> but thats not xubuntu-desktop, xubuntu desktop should replace that file, because it needs to
[13:55] <GridCube> but then again, i might be mistaken
[13:55] <marsje_> oh, like that
[13:56] <marsje_> ok, then you might be right
[13:56] <marsje_> but reinstalling the whole desktop environment to fix 1 line in 1 file seems a bit over kill to me
[13:56] <GridCube> in any case you have a default example of a working lightdm.conf on the xubuntu's faq pages
[13:57] <marsje_> yeah, I found a sample online and used it to fix the file
[13:57] <marsje_> working now :)
[13:57] <GridCube> :)
[14:37] <technojabber> Agreement
[14:40] <GridCube> agreement?
[17:10] <trying_to_try_xu> How do I login when I choose "Try Xubuntu without installing" after booting Xubuntu 12.10 32-bit desktop CD??
[17:10] <g16> trying_to_try_xu: you are logged in automatically.
[17:10] <g16> You should see the desktop with a panel above, the menu at the top left, tray area at top right
[17:14] <trying_to_try_xu> I am not logged in automatically. After booting has finished, I am presented with a login screen, not a desktop.
[17:17] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, that should not happen
[17:17] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, try to reboot the system, check that you have the proper iso on your boot media
[17:17] <GridCube> see that you downloaded the proper iso as well
[17:20] <trying_to_try_xu> The md5sum of the ISO is bd87be6626efa4ebf7678f5e2c942b57.
[17:21] <g16> well, md5 is correct.
[17:21] <g16> I just logged out and in with login xubuntu and leaving the password field empty.
[17:22] <g16> on 12.04 i386 and 12.10 i386 CDs.
[17:22] <g16> Do they also work for you?
[17:23] <GridCube> !md5
[17:23] <GridCube> mmmm weird
[17:25] <dydzEz2> this sucks
[17:25] <dydzEz2> i paid 4 bucks for this stock tracker i really liked on ubuntu
[17:25] <dydzEz2> i paid for it on a 32 bit 12.10 ubuntu and it doesnt work on a 64 bit xubuntu 12.10
[17:26] <dydzEz2> crash reports arent happening
[17:27] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, on the login screen, if you keep seing it, try choosing "guest" as your session name
[17:28] <GridCube> if that fails i dont know what is wrong
[17:28] <trying_to_try_xu> I have been trying the Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 image. That's what I gave the md5sum for. I will try 12.04 version soon.
[17:30] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, yes, as said, that should not happen
[17:36] <trying_to_try_xu> Booting Xubuntu 12.04 Desktop i386 works as desired; i.e., clicking "Try Xubuntu" eventually leads to a desktop that bypasses any login stuff. The md5sum of that is 52fddd81e75bb421a5435a42ca9ec6df.
[17:39] <GridCube> the 12.10 should work exactly the same
[17:41] <moetunes> dydzEz2:  see if this helps - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System
[17:41] <dydzEz2> thanks
[17:44] <dydzEz2> i must say the difference was i used 12.10 UBUNTU x86, right now im installing a vm of 12.10 XUBUNTU x86
[17:46] <koegs> dydzEz2: you can run x86 software on AMD64, you just need to check how :D
[17:46] <dydzEz2> /bin/java doesnt exit
[17:46] <dydzEz2> thats so wierd
[17:46] <dydzEz2> i have like 2 IDES including netbeans that has java
[17:47] <trying_to_try_xu> I gets curiouser. I just got some mixed success with Xubuntu 12.10. Everything I wrote above was done in virtual machines. However, when I boot physical CD in physical PC, trying Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 works as desired.
[17:47] <trying_to_try_xu> s/I gets/It gets/
[17:47] <koegs> dydzEz2: it is /usr/bin/java
[17:48] <dydzEz2> http://jstock.sourceforge.net/help_install_upgrade.html  ctrl+F   /bin/java
[17:48] <dydzEz2> wierd no way to redirecate it in this software
[17:48] <trying_to_try_xu> By the way, for the virtual machine use, the host is running Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386, which was installed on a hard drive.
[17:54] <trying_to_try_xu> For the Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 running in a virtual machine, none of the following login/password combinations work guest/<no password>, guest/guest, guest/xubuntu, guest/tryxubuntu.
[17:55] <Malinuss> so obviously I have GRUB installed, since that is what I choose whatever OS I want to boot. I can howerver not find the "menu.lst", under /boot/grub/menu.lst... Is that because I need to be super user to view that file?
[17:55] <Malinuss> how would I go about that?
[17:55] <knome> !grub2 | Malinuss
[17:55] <knome> trying_to_try_xu, an installed system?
[17:56] <Malinuss> huh?
[17:56] <Malinuss> no I have xubuntu installed
[17:57] <knome> Malinuss, the latter question wasn't for you.
[17:58] <koegs> Malinuss: what do you want to achive? normally you edit /etc/default/grub and then do an "sudo update-grub"
[18:00] <trying_to_try_xu> Ah, I just got a little bit closer. Logging in as xubuntu with empty password, gets past login screen for a few seconds, then it comes back to login screen. I.e., the login screen seems to be satisfied with logging is as xubuntu. Perhaps the subsequent session is what crashes. Hmmm. I wonder if it initially did try to do the desktop, but the desktop crashed, leading back to the login screen. Hmmmm.
[18:03] <dydzEz2> so everytime i want to start jstock i have to go to the folder and tye ./jstock.sh
[18:03] <dydzEz2> its been so long i forgot how to make shortcuts
[18:04] <g16> trying_to_try_xu: liveCD needs 256 MB or more of RAM
[18:04] <bartzy> Can anyone help with this bug:
[18:04] <bartzy> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9792
[18:07] <dydzEz2> oh lol simple
[18:07] <dydzEz2> right click
[18:07] <dydzEz2> totally forgot
[18:10] <dydzEz2> ok if the program is called jstock.sh and i activated it by navigating to the folder and typing ./jstock.sh -- whats the command i put in for creating the launcher
[18:11] <koegs> /path/to/the/programm/jstock.sh
[18:14] <dydzEz2> thanks
[18:15] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, have you tried the guest session?
[18:23] <dydzEz2> i have a xubuntu VM it partitions like this: dev/sda 1 ext 4 ... then dev/sda2 extended to a linux swap dev/sda5 ----- i want to increase the hard disk space so i inserted 20GB unallocated ... can I put all the 20GB into dev/sda (the ext 4 partition)
[18:24] <Malinuss> koegs, I wanted to make the booting screen more appealing and delete some of the choices. But I think I found the answer on how to at least change how it looks (colors and bg.)
[18:26] <GridCube> dydzEz2, if sda2 its just swap, you could mount a live session on that vm, remove the swap using gparted. increase the sda1 size and recreate swap, but be aware of possible data loss, (shouldnt happen tho)
[18:26] <dydzEz2>  GridCube let me send a pic 1 sec
[18:27] <koegs> we do not need a pic, just do it :D
[18:28] <g16> dydzEz2: if you delete the old swap, and use hibernate inside the VM, fix /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
[18:28] <dydzEz2> oh man thats so confusing i havent slept in forever
[18:28] <dydzEz2> this is what it looks like now
[18:28] <dydzEz2> ahts the simplest way
[18:28] <dydzEz2> http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02132013-102655am.php
[18:28] <g16> If you don't use hibernate, then you may still wish to fix it, as it will otherwise take slow down the boot.
[18:29] <dydzEz2> what would happen if i just extended /dev/sda1 btw
[18:31] <GridCube> dydzEz2, sure, you can resize that from a live session
[18:31] <GridCube> dydzEz2, if sda2 its just swap, you could mount a live session on that vm, remove the swap using gparted. increase the sda1 size and recreate swap, but be aware of possible data loss, (shouldnt happen tho)
[18:32] <GridCube> ^^ do that its as easy as it gets, umount swap, delete it, resize sda1, recreate swap, reboot, ..., PROFIT
[18:32] <dydzEz2> ok i get what youre saying gridcube
[18:32] <dydzEz2> how do icreate the swap
[18:32] <dydzEz2> ive never done such a thing
[18:32] <GridCube> in gparted, create a new partition, in the format of the partition, say i to be linux swap
[18:33] <dydzEz2> and btw, since im learning and you guys are great  - why do ineed to delete  the swap
[18:33] <dydzEz2> ok
[18:33] <dydzEz2> ill do it up
[18:34] <GridCube> dydzEz2, think of it like you added a new room to your house, and you want to extend the living room, but its just besides the garage, you need to take down the walls to the garage in order to extend the room, you can rebuild the garage later on
[18:35] <GridCube> i hope that makes some sense
[18:35] <dydzEz2> yeah
[18:36] <dydzEz2>  loaded an ubuntu live c
[18:36] <dydzEz2> d
[18:36] <dydzEz2> lucky i just learned how to use the BIOS on vmware like 2 days ago
[18:36] <GridCube> (it should always boot the cd first)
[18:37] <trying_to_try_xu> Woohoo! I figured out a workaround for trying Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 in a virtual machine in Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386. In virtual machine settings, for Video Model use vga instead of default cirrus.
[18:38] <koegs> trying_to_try_xu: which virtualization do you use? kvm or virtualbox?
[18:39] <dydzEz2> gridcube do i remove sda2 and then sda5 will just get removed alongside it
[18:39] <trying_to_try_xu> I use kvm virtualization.
[18:39] <koegs> o i see
[18:39] <GridCube> dydzEz2, try it, you will learn the proper way
[18:39] <dydzEz2> oh i see i have to "swapoff" first
[18:39] <GridCube> yep
[18:39] <GridCube> :)
[18:40] <dydzEz2> ok so i deletted the swap and now i have the 4gig extended and my sda 1 16gig and 20 gig unallocated
[18:40] <dydzEz2> can i give ALL 20gigs to the ext4?
[18:40] <GridCube> yes, you could, but then you would not have swap
[18:40] <GridCube> and that is NOT desirable
[18:40] <trying_to_try_xu> Another nice thing about choosing vga instead of cirrus for the vm, is bigger virtual screen. cirrus maxes out at 1027x768. vga maxes out at 1920x1080.
[18:41] <dydzEz2>  oh i havent deleted the 4GB swap yet, the extended partition is still there
[18:41] <dydzEz2> imma delete it
[18:41] <dydzEz2> but how much do i leave for a swap
[18:41] <dydzEz2> is hte question
[18:41] <GridCube> 4gb sound about right
[18:41] <dydzEz2> 4gb was for 20gigs
[18:41] <GridCube> i give 6gb from each of my drives
[18:41] <dydzEz2> or 16gigs rather
[18:42] <GridCube> but its up to you, usual "rule" is twice your ram
[18:42] <GridCube> but thats just a saying
[18:42] <irishjim68> hello all. I am having a minor irritation with my xubuntu 12.10 install that I cannot find an answer toa nywhere. My machine is part of a home network that includes windows xp machines, and in my places menu, and inside the folder side pane of the file manager, the icon for "Network" keeps disappearing (ie. doesn't always show up). No settings are being changed, shometime if I reboot, it will be there, sometimes not.
[18:43] <dydzEz2> twice my ram? i have 24 gigs of ram
[18:43] <dydzEz2> oh i assigned 4gigs of ram to the vm
[18:43] <GridCube> P: as said, 4g sound fine
[18:46] <dydzEz2> ok i have 7.81 unallocted
[18:46] <dydzEz2> is it a primary partition?
[18:47] <dydzEz2> oh no its extended
[18:47] <dydzEz2> align to cylinder or mib
[18:48] <trying_to_try_xu> g16: At first I was booting Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 image in a VM with 2047 MB of RAM. Later I reduced to 1024 MB.
[18:50] <trying_to_try_xu> GridCube: I tried logging in as guest (with various passwords) without success. None of the passwords were valid. As far as sessions are concerned, there are only two session choices, Xubuntu Session and Xfce Session, with no guest session option.
[18:50] <GridCube> no passwords needed
[18:51] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, thats very weird, you shouldnt be asked for any password whatsoever
[18:51] <irishjim68> @trying_to_try_xu - try using Xubuntu as user name, no pass
[18:51] <dydzEz2> gridcube does this look right ? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54303432/correct.dib  i alligned to MiB
[18:51] <dydzEz2> operations pending
[18:51] <GridCube> irishjim68, do you have gvfs-backends installed?
[18:52] <GridCube> whats that dydzEz2 ?
[18:52] <trying_to_try_xu> knome: The host OS is Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 installed on a hard drive. I was having trouble running Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 as live CD in a virtual machine that has virtual CD (just ISO image on host hard drive) and _no_ virtual hard drive.
[18:53] <dydzEz2> gricube thats a pic of the operations
[18:53] <dydzEz2> im about to execute
[18:53] <dydzEz2> of making the new partitions
[18:53] <GridCube> i can't open that link sorry
[18:53] <irishjim68> GridCube - how can I find out? When the icon does show, connections to windows machine shares work fine.
[18:54] <dydzEz2> why, do you want me to upload it to zimage?
[18:56] <GridCube> irishjim68, on a terminal type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[18:56] <dydzEz2> gridcube atleast tell me, do i allign to cylinder or MiB
[18:56] <irishjim68> gvfs backends are installed
[18:56] <irishjim68> just checked with software center
[18:56] <GridCube> dydzEz2, thats irrelevant, choose what ever you feel like, i never bothered with those options
[18:57] <trying_to_try_xu> GridCube: I solved problem by changing video mode to vga from cirrus. Rehashing what I wrote earlier: Logging in as guest, never got password with various login/password combinations as written about earlier. Logging in as xubuntu did get past login screen, but session seemed to crash, then come back to login screen after a few seconds.
[18:58] <dydzEz2> did it! now i swapped on
[18:58] <dydzEz2>  lets test it
[18:58] <GridCube> weird stuffs, try going to a tty and try to delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[18:59] <GridCube> irishjim68, try configuring your network shares using gigolo
[18:59] <GridCube> i dont really know how that works so you might need to google a bit
[19:00] <dydzEz2> oh wow
[19:00] <dydzEz2> i thought i messed up
[19:00] <dydzEz2> it worked
[19:00] <dydzEz2> so easy to remember, atleast now ill know how to do it
[19:00] <dydzEz2> thanks
[19:01] <GridCube> dydzEz2, :)
[19:01] <trying_to_try_xu> irishjim68: I solved problem by changing video mode to vga from cirrus. Capitalization: Xubuntu versus xubuntu: Trying to login as Xubuntu prompts for password. Trying to login as xubuntu does not prompt for password. I.e., Xubuntu is not a valid user. xubuntu is a valid user.
[19:02] <dydzEz2> hey if i run gparted while im on the actual OS, will the linux swap be swapped off
[19:02] <dydzEz2> this is wier
[19:02] <GridCube> dydzEz2, please, be aware that you increased the end of the file, that was empty, and becasue of that it was easier
[19:02] <GridCube> if you need to increase the begining of the file, thats where it gets tricky
[19:02] <GridCube> s/file/partition/
[19:02] <dydzEz2> oh so its supposed to be unsappwed
[19:02] <dydzEz2> atm
[19:02] <GridCube> live sessions dont care
[19:03] <GridCube> dydzEz2, oh oh oh
[19:03] <GridCube> please do this before rebooting please
[19:03] <dydzEz2>  do what
[19:03] <GridCube> go to your sda1 partition, find /etc/fstab and change the UUID of the disk to /dev/sda1
[19:03] <GridCube> else it wont boot :#
[19:04] <dydzEz2> ok
[19:04] <dydzEz2> it did boot i just went to the live cd to check something lol
[19:04] <GridCube> oh well, fewwww
[19:05] <dydzEz2> in gparted my extended partition is still /dev/sda1
[19:05] <dydzEz2> since i only just deleted the extended/swap and then resized it
[19:06] <GridCube> :)
[19:07] <dydzEz2>  did xubuntu devs do something different with the dock at the bottom
[19:07] <dydzEz2> like normal xfce is totally solid
[19:08] <dydzEz2> if i got ubuntu and installed xfce on it, would i be able to replicate xubuntus look
[19:08] <knome> dydzEz2, sure.
[19:09] <dydzEz2> how would have i checked my fstab anyway gridcube
[19:10] <GridCube> dydzEz2, you re-mount the partition, go to its ../etc/ folder and find the fstab text file, open it and find the part that points to / there you change the UUID for /dev/sda1
[19:10] <dydzEz2> ohh
[19:10] <irishjim68> GridCube, never used it myself either. Don't even know where to start. I wonder if it is just something with the file manager just not loading the URI?
[19:11] <dydzEz2> but its sda1 by default on a vm
[19:11] <GridCube> very probably irishjim68
[19:11] <dydzEz2> what would it have been
[19:11] <GridCube> ubuntu usually changes /dev/sda1 to its uuid
[19:12] <irishjim68> is there a terminal command i can issue to restart thunar?
[19:12] <GridCube> mmmm good question
[19:16] <irishjim68> when I issue: sudo restart Thunar
[19:17] <irishjim68> I get: restart: Unknown job: Thunar
[19:17] <trying_to_try_xu> GridCube, g16, irishjim68: Thanks for your help. The solution for trying Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 in a kvm virtual machine on a Xubuntu 12.10 Desktop i386 host was to choose vga for video mode instead of default of cirrus. That 12.04 has no problem in VM and that 12.10 worked fine on real machine suggested that the virtual machine was the problem for 12.10. Using vga for video mode also allows max screen of 1920x1080,
[19:17] <trying_to_try_xu>  instead of cramped 1024x768 for cirrus. Thanks again.
[19:17] <GridCube> :D
[19:18] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, you could report a bug about that though
[19:18] <GridCube> !report
[19:18] <GridCube> !bug
[19:18] <irishjim68> trying_to_try_xu, personally, I prefer OpenBox for VM sessions
[19:20] <GridCube> irishjim68, its not thunar, its gvfs
[19:21] <GridCube> and thunar, yes, but mostly thunar relations to gvfs
[19:21] <dydzEz2> gridcube youre right , the swap partition has a different UUID on the fstab
[19:21] <GridCube> :)
[19:22] <GridCube> say to it that its called /dev/sda#
[19:22] <dydzEz2> i just put in the UUID code
[19:22] <dydzEz2> will that not work?
[19:23] <dydzEz2> thhe only lines that arent commeneted (have a # infront) are lines that say UUID=
[19:23] <GridCube> it should yes
[19:23] <dydzEz2> ok so we're good
[19:23] <dydzEz2> now iknow how to partition
[19:23] <dydzEz2> thanks
[19:23] <dydzEz2> lol
[19:23] <GridCube> i just replace that whole thing
[19:23] <GridCube> :P
[19:23] <dydzEz2> yeah i just replaced the code
[19:25] <dydzEz2> i dont have to update-grub or something wierd
[19:26] <trying_to_try_xu> irishjim68: What do you like about OpenBox better than kvm? Generally, I try to not fight the defaults. That kvm has official Ubuntu support is strong motivation to use kvm. I don't see such support for OpenBox. What does OpenBox offer to overcome absence of official Ubuntu support?
[19:26] <dydzEz2>   ok now to check if that stock program only works on ubuntu and not just x86 aka it has an aversion to x64 and not an aversion to xubuntu
[19:26] <dydzEz2> its xubuntu!
[19:27] <dydzEz2> works fine on ubuntu
[19:27] <dydzEz2> ill try xubuntu 12.04
[19:28] <GridCube> trying_to_try_xu, irishjim68 to discuss likenesses please go to #xubuntu-offtopic :) lets try to keep here for support only please
[19:30] <trying_to_try_xu> GridCube: I've added reporting bug to my todo list.
[19:30] <GridCube> :)
[19:31] <trying_to_try_xu> \join #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:38] <dydzEz2> ok so theres this software i paid for that only works on ubuntu and not xubuntu, no matter if its 64 bit or 32 bit, so i want to e-mail the guy (the support website is an e-mail) how can i copy and paste the crash report
[19:38] <dydzEz2> its likee in a GUI with buttons, something you cant copy
[19:40] <Pici> dydzEz2: iirc, it drops a copy of the crash report into /var/crash/
[19:42] <dydzEz2> thanks pici , hmm whats the equiv to sudo nautilus in xubuntu
[19:42] <dydzEz2> cuz it doesnt work
[19:44] <well_laid_lawn> thunar is the filemanager
[19:44] <genii-around> Probably something more like gksudo thunar
[19:45] <dydzEz2> oh sudo thunar
[19:45] <dydzEz2> idnt realy xubuntu used thunar
[19:45] <dydzEz2> new
[19:45] <dydzEz2> i am new that is
[19:45] <genii-around> NOT SUDO
[19:45] <dydzEz2> whats the difference
[19:45] <well_laid_lawn> !gksudo
[19:45] <genii-around> sudo -> command line apps. gksudo -> graphical apps
[20:25] <Doctor_Vex> hi there
[20:26] <Doctor_Vex> i was hoping to install Xubuntu 12.04 on a old Dell Inspiron 4100, but the installation crashes with a Kernel error
[20:27] <Doctor_Vex> live CD worked fine even with sound
[20:27] <Doctor_Vex> i tried Mint before, which installed but did not boot at all
[20:28] <Doctor_Vex> Ubuntu does install and boot but grabs lot of recources and i had no sound. the drive update crashed all the time
[20:28] <Doctor_Vex> so. at some point i would like to have a working Linux on this laptop
[20:35] <drc> You might start by giving us some specs on the machine (RAM, etc...so we don't have to guess)
[20:36] <Doctor_Vex> it has a Pentium 3 1 GHz M with 512 RAM
[20:46] <moetunes> Doctor_Vex:  alot of the time the kernel error can be due to memory issues - have you checked the memory on that old box?
[20:46] <Doctor_Vex> yes i have
[20:46] <Doctor_Vex> 0 errors
[20:47] <Doctor_Vex> it would also be weird as Ubuntu and Win XP ran fine without such errors
[20:48] <moetunes> xubuntu should be ok on that - did you check the live cd after you burnt it?
[20:49] <moetunes> I have a similar spec laptop that I run arch on which has a later kernel than xubuntu so it won't be xubuntu's kernel that's the issue
[20:51] <Doctor_Vex> i can run the "check disc for defect" but i doubt it will lead somewhere
[20:51] <Doctor_Vex> i burned it extra slow
[20:51] <moetunes> that helps nut isn't error proof
[20:52] <moetunes> s/nut/but/
[21:00] <Doctor_Vex> well "Check finished: No errors found"
[21:00] <Doctor_Vex> so what can i do now
[21:02] <Doctor_Vex> should i try Lubuntu?
[21:03] <moetunes> Doctor_Vex:  you should have a couple of entries in the booy menu, do they all fail?
[21:03] <Doctor_Vex> what do you mean?
[21:03] <moetunes> all the *ubuntu's use the same kernel
[21:04] <Doctor_Vex> yeah but why does the installation crash only on Xubuntu
[21:04] <moetunes> when you boot there's a menu to select what os/kernel you want
[21:04] <Doctor_Vex> the Live CD works
[21:05] <Doctor_Vex> i dont see kernel options
[21:05] <Doctor_Vex> i get the usual CD menu
[21:05] <moetunes> so something went wrong with the install - xubuntu works for thousands so it's not that
[21:06] <Doctor_Vex> try Xubuntu, install Xubuntu, Check disc
[21:06] <moetunes> you said you had trouble with an installed xubuntu right?
[21:06] <moetunes> not the live cd
 i was hoping to install Xubuntu 12.04 on a old Dell Inspiron 4100, but the installation crashes with a Kernel error
[21:07] <moetunes> ok so it crashes during the installition process? at what stage of it?
[21:08] <Doctor_Vex> right after the screen with the how much GB it requires and before the partition menu
[21:09] <Doctor_Vex> i tried it from the live session via "install Xubuntu" and via the start menu right after boot
[21:09] <moetunes> ok. just the once or it has done hat a few times?
[21:10] <Doctor_Vex> twice since i tried it both ways
[21:12] <moetunes> ok. it's a problem on your end else no one would be running xubuntu. I'd try a hard drive check
[21:12] <Doctor_Vex> im loading the live session again. what then?
[21:12] <Taylr0x> When booting up my laptop with Xubuntu installed am I not supposed to see the Xubuntu logo and progress bar? As I just get a black screen and then the login screen after about 10 seconds.
[21:15] <Doctor_Vex> i also highly doubt it is the HDD as the earlier installations worked fine and several partitioning processes have been done inclusive formatting
[21:17] <moetunes> Doctor_Vex:  I'm just offering things to check - I have no idea about the state of your hardware but there seems to be something going wrong at your end
[21:17] <drc> what was the version of ubuntu that did install?
[21:18] <Doctor_Vex> 12.04 LTS
[21:18] <moetunes> to check the hdd in a terminal - smartctl –all /dev/hda | less - press to quit. you might have to install smartctl
[21:19] <moetunes> to check the hdd in a terminal -    smartctl –all /dev/hda | less    - press q to quit. you might have to install smartctl
[21:26] <Doctor_Vex> installed it but that gives me an error
[21:26] <Doctor_Vex> invalid argument to -l: l
[21:32] <xubuntu924> the audio onmy computer has too much noise
[21:33] <xubuntu924> whenever I view videos using youtube and perform any other activity like compiling a program...the audio freezes foar a couple of seconds
[21:34] <xubuntu924> do I need to download additional drivers ?
[21:37] <moetunes> Doctor_Vex:  what command did you run? - I never mentioned -l
[21:37] <Doctor_Vex> exactly what you said
[21:39] <Doctor_Vex> there is also a "Smartctl open device: /dev/hda failed: no such device" at the end in the terminal
[21:41] <moetunes> try /dev/sda
[21:42] <moetunes> so   smartctl –all /dev/sda    first then pipe it through less if there's too much info
[21:43] <recon_lap> xubuntu924: maybe more codex and check if there is a property video driver, never came across a audio driver though
[21:43] <moetunes> smartctl –all /dev/sda | less   a pipe is shift+\ keys
[21:44] <recon_lap> xubuntu924: is this a old machine? might not be up to a large load
[21:44] <moetunes> Taylr0x:  you should see a splash screen - your vid card probably needs a kernel parameter to work in the framebuffer
[21:45] <Doctor_Vex> well i started a badblocks earlier and its running so far. i will try that right after
[21:45] <moetunes> k
[21:49] <Taylr0x> moetunes, I'm a bit of a beginner when it comes to Xubuntu. Mind giving me a little guidance on what I need to do? Does that mean my graphics card doesnt have sufficient drivers installed or something?
[21:54] <recon_lap> Taylr0x: name you make and model of comp and video card.
[21:55] <moetunes> Taylr0x:  it means you need to edit a bootloader file and a setting there
[21:56] <moetunes> we'll need to know the vid card you have so in a terminal   lspci | grep VGA
[21:59] <Taylr0x> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[21:59] <GridCube> !uefi | epifanio
[22:06] <moetunes> Taylr0x:  are you using the opensource driver or the proprietry one from amd?
[22:07] <Taylr0x> Haven't got a clue. I'm using what ever was installed by default.
[22:07] <moetunes> that'll be the opensource driver
[22:08] <Taylr0x> Should I use the other one?
[22:11] <moetunes> no need unless you want to
[22:12] <Taylr0x> Righto, many tanks for the help moetunes!
[22:12] <moetunes> you need to add   radeon modeset=1   to the end of the kernel line - I would do that from grub first as a check that it works ok
[22:35] <Todd> I got Xubuntu 12.04.1 ISO and I have program do USB but the program don't recognize the ISO.
[22:35] <Doctor_Vex> Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found.
[22:36] <Doctor_Vex> smartctl still doesnt work with the same error
[22:36] <genii-around> Hm. 35 seconds is hardly long enough to await some reply.
[23:01] <recon_lap> Todd: how you creating the live usb? are you using windows to create it?
[23:01] <Doctor_Vex> he left
[23:03] <recon_lap> I noticed lol
[23:03] <recon_lap> bit slow tonight
[23:05] <Doctor_Vex> well he cant expect to receive immediate support
[23:43] <Doctor_Vex> so i tried the Xubuntu install routine from live CD desktop again. this time it did not crash in the middle, the windows closed but it does not say reboot and occasionally loads data from the CD
[23:44] <Doctor_Vex> the mouse curser still indicates waiting
[23:44] <Doctor_Vex> i guess ill wait a bit more
[23:45] <jinjorge> are you using the daily build? or is this 12.10?
[23:45] <Doctor_Vex> 12.04
[23:45] <jinjorge> I just installed the daily build(13.04) and all is well
[23:46] <Doctor_Vex> i dont know of any 13.04 as april is in the future
[23:47] <jinjorge> yes, this is not the release(alpha, beta...)
[23:47] <Doctor_Vex> oh. ok
[23:47] <jinjorge> living on the edge
[23:47] <Doctor_Vex> looking forward to it
[23:48] <knome> yes, 13.04 should not be installed to production machines.
[23:49] <jinjorge> @knome yes that's correct
[23:50] <jinjorge> it's installed on a machine that I can easily blow away and reinstall
[23:50] <Doctor_Vex> it just booted \o/
[23:50] <jinjorge> woot!!
[23:50] <Doctor_Vex> that really was a tough birth
[23:51] <Doctor_Vex> 16% CPU usage instead of 60% in Ubuntu is much better
[23:52] <Doctor_Vex> and sound works unlike in Ubuntu
[23:54] <jinjorge> which version of Ubuntu are you comparing to?
[23:54] <Doctor_Vex> 12.04
[23:54] <Doctor_Vex> its a older laptop