[00:34] <Shrewsbury> hey, I'm having trouble getting the installer to see the disk I wish to install to
[00:38] <holstein> Shrewsbury: i would test it.. i would remove the installer from the equation,and just try seeing the disk from anything
[00:38] <holstein> i would try a diagnostic CD such as the ultimate boot cd, or just a gparted disc
[02:38] <GeorgeIoak2> Working on an Intel Atom machine and was trying to speed things up some and installed matchbox as well as a new user. I want o go back to LXDE and auto login but can't find out how
[02:40] <GeorgeIoak2> i see /etc/gdm/custom.conf has autologin choice but which dm will be used?
[02:44] <GeorgeIoak2> so i can modify /etc/gdm/custom.conf and change which user auto logins but my original user is using matchbox. how do i change it back to lighted OR how can I get a script to auto run in matchbox?
[02:55] <GeorgeIoak2> so what determines which dm is run at login, is that in a X config somewhere?
[02:57] <bulletrulz> hey is it possible for a diffrent menu in lxde like cardapio
[03:01] <GeorgeIoak2> so in /etc/X11default-display-manager I see /usr/sbin/gdm if I comment out that line will I boot to the console and then I could run something like "matchbox-window-manager &" or am i missing something?
[03:07] <GeorgeIoak2> OK, commenting that line didn't give me a console so I had to ssh in and change the file back. So I'm still looking for help on this please.
[03:13] <GeorgeIoak2> guess I'll keep typing, if nothing else it'll be a log. so I can change /etc/X11/default-disply-manager to /usr/sbin/lightdm but I still get this desktop with tabs across the top (Internet-Work-Learn-Play-Preferences) is that matchbox?
[03:27] <GeorgeIoak2> i see /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startlubuntu-netbook so I'm guessing I've somehow enabled lubuntu-netbook instead of standard lubuntu?
[03:27] <GeorgeIoak2> but i don't know what called that process
[04:01] <GeorgeIoak2> if i'm right and i'm boting into Lubuntu-Netbook instead of Lubuntu I still can't see how to change it
[04:03] <holstein> bulletrulz: sure
[04:03] <holstein> bulletrulz: lemme research what "cardapio" is, and i'll let you know if i think that works easily
[04:04] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: maybe you just have autologin going on
[04:04] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: what i usually do is blow out the /home .config and test
[04:04] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: maybe you can purge and undo what you have done
[04:05] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: if you dont know what you are logging into, you can take a screenshot
[04:08] <GeorgeIoak2> i just disabled the auto login, saw that in fact netbook was the default choice so i slected lubuntu, got to the desktop, changed the lighted.conf file back to auto login and that seemed to work
[04:08] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i find, if i have autologin enabled.. it'll just auto login to whatever the default session is
[04:09] <GeorgeIoak2> but what file is supposed to hold what session you want to boot into, i looked at /etc/lxdm/default.conf and it said lunbuntu
[04:09] <holstein> i havent needed to get that in depth with it
[04:10] <GeorgeIoak2> i seem to always uncover some weird situations
[04:10] <holstein> well, i dont think you uncovered anything.. i think you changed the functionality, which is fine.. but you should expect "weird" situations
[04:11] <GeorgeIoak2> like now when i launch chromium in --kiosk mode it's not full screen and looks like the window is shifted off screen in the upper left corner
[04:12] <holstein> maybe 'ps ax | grep lxsession' would help you find what you are looking for
[04:13] <GeorgeIoak2> yeah, that's how i knew it was booted into netbook
[04:13] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: again, feel free to take screenshots, might help with the chromium "issue"
[04:15] <GeorgeIoak2> ok, let me check something. i see a bunch of org.freedesktop.DBus.Error ... when I ran Chromium from the CL
[04:16] <holstein> i would make sure you are running chromium stable, and you are up to date
[04:17] <GeorgeIoak2> and a "your preferences cannot be read" when i start Chromium. Can I just mv the .config/Chromium folder?
[04:17] <holstein> can you? sure.. might wnat to sort out why your config is broken though
[04:18] <GeorgeIoak2> yeah, moving allows it to recreate it. i still get those dubs error messages. need to see if it goes real full screen now
[04:19] <GeorgeIoak2> r/dubs/dbus
[04:19] <holstein> try just hitting f11
[04:19] <holstein> dont troubleshoot fullscreen and kiosk mode together
[04:20] <GeorgeIoak2> does print-screen take a snapshot?
[04:21] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1521606
[04:22] <holstein> scrot installed?
[04:22] <holstein> i dont have actual native lubuntu running in front of me
[04:22] <GeorgeIoak2> what my goal is is to get this to boot into chromium in kiosk mode, but you're right, 1 thing at a time. i just rebooted and i i have chrome off to the side, scrot is not installed but i can drop out and install it
[04:24] <GeorgeIoak2> looks like scrot is installed
[04:24] <holstein> should be by default... should be in the menu... "take screenshot" or something like that
[04:24] <holstein> printscreen works for me, but i have a custom setup
[04:25] <GeorgeIoak2> don't see it listed in the menu
[04:26] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: cool.. i wouldnt lose sleep over finding it.. nor taking a screenshot.. im sure you'll sort it out if you need to
[04:26] <GeorgeIoak2> holstein: ok here's i think the problem
[04:27] <GeorgeIoak2> i needed chromium to run at boot so in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf i added a call to run a scrip which basically has line that runs chrome
[04:28] <GeorgeIoak2> but since that script is run as root chromium complained that it can't be run as root
[04:28] <holstein> it shouldnt
[04:28] <GeorgeIoak2> well i assumed it was since chrome complained
[04:29] <holstein> no, i mean, it shouldnt be run as root
[04:29] <holstein> i wouldnt run a browser as root
[04:29] <GeorgeIoak2> i added a --user-data-dir=/home/onq/.config/chromium to the startup line
[04:29] <GeorgeIoak2> i don't want to run it as root. i just need it to run on bootup
[04:30] <holstein> sure.., why not just ~/.config/autostart ?
[04:30] <GeorgeIoak2> now i see some files in /.config/chrmium has root/root instead of onq/onq
[04:30] <holstein> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE#Autostart_Programs though the locations might be different
[04:31] <GeorgeIoak2> i tried autostart and had problems
[04:31] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: yeah, you'll want to blow that out again, and *not* run *any* browser as root
[04:31] <GeorgeIoak2> let me try again
[04:31] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: running a browser at boot as root is a problem
[04:32] <GeorgeIoak2> so is desktop the only way to get an app to run at boot? i tried init.d and that didn't work
[04:32] <holstein> i dont use LXDE on here, but i have openbox... and i have a custom autostart
[04:32] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: ?
[04:32] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: just add it to the autostart
[04:33] <GeorgeIoak2> meaning copy the application and modify the file once in startup
[04:34] <holstein> i would just add it to startup
[04:34] <holstein> i'll find mind and show you..
[04:35] <GeorgeIoak2> go to /usr/share/applications and copy the app you want
[04:36] <GeorgeIoak2> place the copied app in /home/onq/.config/autostart
[04:36] <holstein> i did mine in my user /home
[04:36] <holstein> ~/.config/openbox/autostart
[04:36] <GeorgeIoak2> really?
[04:37] <holstein> for example..
[04:37] <holstein> ## tint panel
[04:37] <holstein> (sleep 1 && tint2) &
[04:37] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: should be able to do that with lxde as well.. per user.. simple
[04:37] <holstein> (sleep 3 && conky) & starts conky
[04:38] <GeorgeIoak2> ok, i only see /home/onq/.config/openbox and nothing below tha except for a lubuntu-rc.xml file
[04:38] <holstein> ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[04:38] <holstein> from the link i gave https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE#Autostart_Programs
[04:38] <holstein> the "second method"
[04:38] <holstein> The second method is to use a ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart file. This file is not a shell script, but each line represents a command to be executed, if a line begins with a @ symbol, the command following the @ will be automatically re-executed if it crashes. For example, to execute lxterminal and leafpad automatically at startup:
[04:39] <holstein> so you could add (sleep 10 && chromium-browser --kiosk) &
[04:40] <holstein> or something like that...
[04:40] <GeorgeIoak2> so putting a .conf file in this directory is the proper way to do it ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[04:40] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i literally edit the file named "autostart"
[04:40] <GeorgeIoak2> does it get added into the desktop.conf file or you create a new .conf file?
[04:41] <holstein> it gets started.. the commands you put in the file "autostart"
[04:41] <holstein> its not a script... its just lines that get excecuted
[04:41] <holstein> not as root
[04:41] <holstein> just as that user... per session.. for that users only
[04:41] <holstein> i think its prefect for what i can tell you are trying to do
[04:42] <GeorgeIoak2> ok, i have a autostart directory but no autostart file under the ~/.config directory
[04:42] <holstein>  ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[04:42] <holstein> ^^ thats what i would try. or the lubuntu equivalent
[04:42] <GeorgeIoak2> only thing in that directory is a desktop.conf file
[04:43] <GeorgeIoak2> under lxsession is a Lubuntu and a LXDE directory
[04:43] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i might run "locate autostart"
[04:44] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i just dont have a stock lubuntu install in front of me at the moment to give you the actual particulars
[04:44] <GeorgeIoak2> ok
[04:45] <GeorgeIoak2> only thing under the .config directory is that autostart directory
[04:45] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/81383/how-can-i-add-new-autostart-programs-in-lubuntu
[04:46] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604211
[04:46] <holstein> http://superuser.com/questions/146457/how-do-i-add-startup-applications-in-lubuntu-lxde
[04:46] <holstein> etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart might be a good place to try
[04:46] <GeorgeIoak2> that first link is what i originally tried
[04:47] <holstein> ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart is suggested, and looks like what i would do
[04:47] <GeorgeIoak2> i see a /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart file, out of curiosity
[04:48] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: lubuntu 12.10?
[04:49] <GeorgeIoak2> i believe so, it was a new install the other day
[04:49] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: please confirm...
[04:50] <holstein> lsb_release -a
[04:50] <GeorgeIoak2> sorry brain is dead, i know it's a 3.5.0-23-generic kernel
[04:50] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: in the terminal, you can run the command i listed above
[04:51] <GeorgeIoak2> 12.10
[04:52] <holstein> i have 4 minutes left on the download... and i'll install and create an autostarting kiosking chromium with you
[04:52] <GeorgeIoak2> so i don't have that autostart file under lxsession, i guess i just create ti and assume it's OK?
[04:52] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i dont have lubuntu 12.10 running anywhere nor have i downloaded it
[04:52] <GeorgeIoak2> holstein: thanks, above and beyond!
[04:56] <GeorgeIoak2> going to give the autostart directory try first since it's just copying and pasting the "app"
[04:57] <GeorgeIoak2> ok, just did that and chrom started but i get a window pop up that says "system program problem detected
[04:58] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: are you wanting chrome, or chromium?
[04:58] <GeorgeIoak2> ok, this might be left over from my experiments because the detail of the problem says it's from matchbox-panel-manager so i'm going to remove that
[04:59] <GeorgeIoak2> sorry i think chromium is better but i honestly don't know i tried everything and chromium seems to take the least cpu
[05:00] <holstein> "better" is a matter of opinion.. im going to set up chromium
[05:00] <holstein> since that is what you want'
[05:01] <GeorgeIoak2> well this is running a video full screen at 1366x768 so it's eating up the cpu. i actually saw like 140% with midori and opera and fir fox while chromium was ~70%
[05:01] <GeorgeIoak2> i'll use whatever will play the video and html5 pages full screen
[05:02] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: your graphics hardware might decitate that
[05:02] <GeorgeIoak2> oh it definitely does. doesn't seem like there's H/W accelerated video drivers for the Intel GMA3150
[05:03] <holstein> doesnt have to be. im  just saying the browser might not be the bottle neck
[05:04] <GeorgeIoak2> i don't think it really has as big an impact as playing the video
[05:04] <holstein> so, what might play video and html5 pages fullscreen might be other hardware.. not a software solution (or better drivers)
[05:04] <holstein> i dont think either.. i just test, and see
[05:05] <GeorgeIoak2> it's all about the hardware/driver combination. take the raspberry pi, you can use it to play 1080P 'cause it's got h/w accelerated video but try to use it as a desktop and you'll poke along. but for $35...
[05:05] <holstein> its the driver
[05:05] <holstein> there is support that that hardware, so it works
[05:05] <holstein> its that simple
[05:06] <holstein> it gest that acceeratled video from the driver support
[05:06] <GeorgeIoak2> yeah and this case intel didn't provide *nix drivers
[05:06] <holstein> if you have that driver support, you get a nice experience.. if not, i dont care what browser you try.. you might always have crap performance
[05:06] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: usually, they are included in the kernel
[05:07] <GeorgeIoak2> general driver is there but it doesn't appear that the drver is written for h/w accelrated video playback
[05:08] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: test it.. it wont "appear" any different
[05:08] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: try something 3d and see.. the drivers intel provide and usually just in the kernel
[05:09] <GeorgeIoak2> i doubt any 3d would run on this machine
[05:11] <GeorgeIoak2> another oddity, in Xfce Power Manager it's set to Shutdown when power button is pushed but it's asking instead
[05:11] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: doubt?
[05:12] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: 3d runs on all my intel chips just fine usually
[05:12] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: you are not in xfce
[05:12] <GeorgeIoak2> but remember this is intel atom, i think 425 series so its not evel dual core
[05:12] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i wouldnt "overthink" the little things.. the appeal of lxde is that its light
[05:12] <GeorgeIoak2> true
[05:13] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: im talking the graphics chips.. not cpu
[05:13] <holstein> i have an old netbook that does 3d... an old eeepc 900
[05:13] <GeorgeIoak2> i remember seeing the power button setting somewhere...
[05:13] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: again. i wouldnt expect that from LXDE
[05:13] <GeorgeIoak2> yeah, you're right, as long as the graphics supports it and those netbooks had small screens which helped
[05:14] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: its intel...
[05:14] <GeorgeIoak2> you mean the power button setting, i could have sworn it used to power off the machine
[05:15] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: and you can add pcackages and make it work now
[05:17] <GeorgeIoak2> been going at this machine all day, it's worn me down
[05:18] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: well, you should come here *before*
[05:19] <GeorgeIoak2> i was on most of the day and everyone was sleeping
[05:22] <GeorgeIoak2> ok, looks like the autostart program is working now. do you know of an easy way to change the boot screen to a logo instead of lubuntu?
[05:23] <GeorgeIoak2> i think i remember seeing something ..
[05:36] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1669934
[05:38] <GeorgeIoak2> so it looks like plymouth-manager can do it...
[05:39] <GeorgeIoak2> off to try it
[05:39] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: enjoy! im off
[05:39] <holstein> i'll just keep this VM of lubuntu around for later
[05:39] <GeorgeIoak2> yeah, i'm nt done yet ;)
[05:40] <GeorgeIoak2> i see a bunch of plymouth-theme but not plymouth-manager
[05:41] <agura> I am new to lubuntu having problems with prelude-manager.  When I shut the computer down it tells me that prelude-manager is disabled, and I should adjust config. However when in put in the command 'config' I get a suggestion of several different commands: fconfig, zconfig, vconfig and mconfig and none seems connocted to prelude-manager.  My overall goal is to get snort working and all my problems seem related to that.
[05:42] <holstein> agura: i dont use snort or prelude-manager.. i think what is meant by "adjust config" is just that.. the prelude-manager config file
[05:43] <holstein> usually in ~/.config somewhere
[05:43] <holstein> http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Prelude looks about right
[05:44] <holstein> agura: i would look into backtrack documentation.. you wont get much help in the ubuntu specific channels on specific extra added in packages that we dont really maintain
[05:45] <holstein> agura: you can also try the bigger channels since this has nothing to do with lxde or lubuntu specificially
[05:45] <agura> sorry, what is backtrack documentation?
[05:48] <agura> as I am new to this, what are the bigger channels?
[05:49] <holstein> agura: lets just say, the documentation and support avenues related to that particular hardware, since i am not familiar with them
[05:49] <holstein> agura: you are in lubuntu.. ubuntu + LXDE = lubuntu.. .you are not asking about anything specific to LXDE, so, you could try #ubuntu
[05:49] <agura> ok, thanks
[05:51] <GeorgeIoak2> i've got a UDEV rule setup to call a script when a USB drive is plugged in. The script mounts the drive, copies the new files over and then restarts the browser. problem is that the script will be run as root since it's called by UDEV
[05:51] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: you *dont* want to run a browser as root
[05:51] <GeorgeIoak2> does anyone happen to know how i can issue a command in a script under a different user
[05:51] <holstein> you shouldnt need to restart a browser to plug in a USB stick
[05:52] <GeorgeIoak2> holstein: yep, i know that, that's why i'm thiking how to change the script
[05:52] <holstein> !sudo
[05:52] <holstein> http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/command-line-hacks/linux-run-command-as-different-user/
[05:52] <GeorgeIoak2> let me back up
[05:52] <GeorgeIoak2> or let me read your link
[05:54] <GeorgeIoak2> so it looks like if I change the command to runuser -l  userNameHere -c chromium-browser --kiosk that hopefully will work
[05:56] <GeorgeIoak2> FYI, the reason I want to do this is so that someone can walk up, plug a drive in (with a special "key file) and the system will know to copy the new files over onto the system and restart the browser with the new files. the system is run all offline with local files
[05:57] <holstein> i cant imagine why the browser would need to restart.. but go for it
[05:58] <GeorgeIoak2> because it will delete the index.html file so my plan is to run a "standby video loop", kill the browser, copy the files, restart the browser, kill the standby video
[06:22] <GeorgeIoak2> got any clues why i can play a video with mplayer and/or gnome-mplayer in a window but if i try to make them go full screen they crash
[06:26] <GeorgeIoak2> holstein: looking at processes and I see xfce4-power-manager and use/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd running. thought you said i wouldn't be using xfce?
[07:23] <GeorgeIoak2> holstein: there isn't any runuser available for ubuntu?
[08:16] <Noskcaj> who forgot to change the lubuntu default wallpaper?
[08:16] <Noskcaj> for 13.04
[13:44] <Hyuristyle> wxl: hey, i managed to make skype work
[13:45] <Hyuristyle> just installed pulseaudio and boom!
[13:47] <Hyuristyle> now it's working fine
[15:06] <pmatulis> how can i get a specific application to start maximized (a la F11)?  i'm looking at ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml but it's all gobbledygook.  can someone provide a simple example?
[15:07] <holstein> pmatulis: i would just add whatever the application needs
[15:10] <holstein> http://superuser.com/questions/276923/how-to-start-google-chrome-with-maximized-window is relevant about chrome with several OS's
[15:12] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/36287/how-to-start-firefox-in-fullscreen-mode a nice suggestion for firefox using user profiles
[15:14] <pmatulis> holstein: yeah, i guess maximize is not the right term.  indeed, i'm looking for 'fullscreen'
[15:16] <pmatulis> holstein: k, got it
[15:16] <holstein> pmatulis: cheers!
[15:30] <Kuroda_Shun> I want to pipe a local drive to the rdesktop in remoting to.. I could do it last week,, but i re imaged my laptop from ubuntu to lubuntu and now I can not.. can you think of what I am missing?
[15:30] <holstein> Kuroda_Shun: you want to "pipe a local drive"?
[15:32] <genii-around> Some network share remotely mounted or so?
[15:34] <Kuroda_Shun> yes. pipe or connect.. how ever you would word it.. I had it set up with -r disk:local="/home/myname/bin" now it is not connecting
[15:34] <holstein> Kuroda_Shun: im not clear on what you were using to set that up.. i would set it up the same
[15:35] <holstein> if it is an ssh share, then, just reconfigure that.. or samba... or whatever it was
[16:59] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i have a new software any idea how to get it to run properly on my lubuntu
[17:00] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i tried to open through the terminal and everything not really good with linux yet
[17:02] <mysteriousdarren> what are you trying to get to work?
[17:04] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i got this new video editing for linux but even in my term it wont run
[17:04] <Ez0v3rR1d3> any ideas
[17:04] <mysteriousdarren> what program?
[17:04] <Unit193> We kind of need some details to work with here.
[17:04] <Ez0v3rR1d3> cinelerra
[17:05] <genii-around> Probably better off to just add cinelerra PPA
[17:06] <Ez0v3rR1d3> ok how to do that
[17:06] <Unit193> Could also try out pitivi or kino too.  Never used one of those though.
[17:07] <genii-around> Ez0v3rR1d3: eg: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa                      and then after this: sudo apt-get update              after this you should be able to install it normally like other prgrams
[17:08] <genii-around> ( From Package Manager )
[17:09] <Ez0v3rR1d3> sweet thanks genii ur awesome thats the second question u answered for me till i get to know as much as yall i will be back lol
[17:14] <jusr> in the most current version of lubuntu. The bottom left most corner of the screen has the Powerdown/loggoff/hibernate/etc/etc button.  How put it back? I think I deleted it from the system.. thanks =)
[17:14] <jusr> Most stable release version, my apologies.
[17:14] <jusr> bottom right corner, sry. =(
[17:17] <Unit193> jusr: You can compare it to the files in /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu
[17:17] <genii-around> jusr: Posting number 10 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860263 may work
[17:20] <GeorgeIoak2> anyone messed with .desktop files/apps? i've got mine created but i wanted to try and capture the pid of the process launched. seems like i can't use standard tactics like on the CL to pipe output to a file
[17:21] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: i said, you are not running xfce.. lubuntu can use whatever software and maybe some from xfce
[17:21] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: what do you mean by "runuser"? run as another user?
[17:24] <GeorgeIoak2> hey holstein: how goes it today?
[17:25] <GeorgeIoak2> yeah, couldn't find run user (as in run as another user. i'm trying sudo -u anotherusername chromium-browser now to see if i can get that to work
[17:27] <GeorgeIoak2> problem is that i've got that use rule launching the script that kills the browser and has to start it back up again when all the file keeping is done. can't/don't want it to run as root and it will since this script is called from a udev rule
[17:27] <holstein> !sudo
[17:28] <holstein> http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/command-line-hacks/linux-run-command-as-different-user/
[17:28] <holstein> ^^ that is what i would read
[17:34] <GeorgeIoak2> runuser wasn't in the available packages that i could find but it looks like the sudo -u new name works
[17:37]  * genii-around ponders su -c "startbrowserhere" username
[17:38] <GeorgeIoak2> genii-around: think an su -c is better?
[17:39] <holstein> GeorgeIoak2: seems like that is the suggestion that genii-around has made.. why not try it? and see if it works for you?.. "better" is a matter of opinion
[17:43] <wxl> jusr: you get all figured out yet?
[17:45] <GeorgeIoak2> just curious why that over -u
[17:46] <genii-around> GeorgeIoak2: I tend to prefer it because in scripts you can put commands which have many spaces and switches between the quotes
[17:48] <genii-around> ( or cronjobs, etc)
[17:58] <GeorgeIoak2> genii-around: ok, i'll look into that, i'm by no means an expert with this stuff!
[17:59] <GeorgeIoak2> holstein: picking up where i left off last night, is there an easy way to change the start up/down screen to a logo (png file)
[18:29] <Kuroda_Shun> holstein: It is just a rdesktop connection... from a shell
[20:07] <aeioufy> Could someone give me the official link to downloading lubuntu desktop 32bit distro, stable version cd image? iso?
[20:08] <Unit193> aeioufy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/lubuntu-12.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/lubuntu-12.10-alternate-i386.iso
[20:09] <aeioufy> thanks, shoulda read the topic =)
[20:10] <aeioufy> i386 is 32bit?
[20:10] <Unit193> Yes.
[20:11] <Unit193> amd64 is 64 bit, as is x86_64 :P
[20:12] <aeioufy> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/lubuntu-12.10-alternate-i386.metalink ..what is this compared to your second url? i am running an intel atom 1.6ghz 1gram 250g ssd eeepc
[20:12] <aeioufy> So with that, is a 32bit iso prefered over a 64 and why?
[20:13] <Unit193> I'd go with 32 because you don't have very much ram.  Also, you wouldn't want .metalink unless you have a program that handles it.
[20:13] <aeioufy> Unit193: I was just curious if my eeepc was running slower, using a 32bit
[20:14] <aeioufy> Unit193: Thank you very much, what is a metalink btw?
[20:15] <Unit193> XML download data, kind of.
[20:16] <aeioufy> Ok, I thought 12.04 was stable....
[20:16] <Unit193> That's Ubuntu's LTS release, Lubuntu doesn't exactly have those.
[20:17] <Unit193> 12.10 quantal is stable, 13.04 raring is the dev release until April.
[20:17] <aeioufy> Ok, raring is like beta test?
[20:18] <aeioufy> I try to check this out online, just helps having someone who can prod me in the right direction when abit lost or verify.. Thanks much =).. Im very new to linux
[20:19] <aeioufy> I should be able to make a bootable iso of this, onto an 8g flash stick? or is 16g the min?
[20:21] <Unit193> 1G is even fine.
[20:23] <aeioufy> I have a dual boot eeepc since only using linux for the last week so I can fall on win incase i get stuck....
[20:25] <aeioufy> I am using linuxlive usb creator to make this happen in win.  How would I do the same thing in Lubuntu?
[20:25] <Unit193> You could unetbootin, usb-creator, dd, or another tool.
[20:25] <Unit193> !usb
[20:25] <aeioufy> dd is command line?
[20:26] <Unit193> Yeah.
[20:30] <aeioufy> ok. i'll check that later.
[20:30] <aeioufy> i screwed up my last install, and i forget how... was in lubuntu trying to format my usb.. unfamiliar with stuff and repartioned the wrong drive...
[20:30] <Unit193> Heh, yeah.  It's generally recommended using gparted as it's a tad easier.
[20:30] <aeioufy> So. how would I quick format and wipe format (sp?) in lubuntu?
[20:30] <aeioufy> yea, It was my first day with linux when I did that. This is my third install.  First dual boot. Thanks.
[22:17] <jusr> !mount
[22:18] <jusr> when would I want to mount a usb drive?
[22:19] <wxl> um
[22:19] <wxl> when you want to access its contents?
[22:21] <jusr> with my 16g stick i do not have to mount it to watch movies.  I think, not sure if this 8g stick is formated... Wanting to fat32 format it and unebootin it with a distro.
[22:22] <wxl> you mean it has movies and you don't have to do anything to access its contents?
[22:22] <jusr> the stick I am talking about. I can't see it on gparted...
[22:22] <wxl> your system may have automounted it
[22:22] <jusr> The stick in question is 8g. The 16g stick worked fine, I could watch movies on it without mounting... i think
[22:23] <wxl> in which case you'll need to unmount it first
[22:23] <wxl> disk utility should be able to do that
[22:23] <jusr> Oh, sticks always need to be mounted?
[22:23] <wxl> every drive needs to be mounted
[22:23] <wxl> but they're usually automounted
[22:23] <jusr> should I close out of gparted and open disk utility to fat32 format my 8g stick?
[22:24] <wxl> it can format
[22:24] <wxl> it can also mount/unmount
[22:24] <jusr> it?
[22:25] <wxl> it = disks/disk utility/palmimpsest
[22:27] <jusr> Ok, I used disk utility. format, master boot record. Should disk utility be done?
[22:27] <wxl> there's no other reason you need it if you want to format
[22:28] <jusr> sorry..
[22:28] <jusr> I am lost here, I open disk utility, check on the usb disk i want to format, click format, click ok. and boom, its done that fast?
[22:29] <wxl> goes pretty quick
[22:29] <wxl> it's nto called a flash drive for nothing
[22:29] <wxl> :)
[22:29] <jusr> ok
[22:29] <jusr> I was making sure the ready boost stuff was off of it, if that mattered anyways.
[22:29] <jusr> Thank you wxl.
[22:29] <wxl> ready boost?
[22:30] <jusr> yea yea, i just stopped using win a few days ago, remember.
[22:30] <wxl> oh
[22:30] <wxl> sorry
[22:30] <wxl> i don't keep up on the windows parlance much anymore XD
[22:31] <jusr> It sure helped me when I found someone who knew both os's so they could help me with the transition to linux.
[22:32] <wxl> i know some things but i just know enough to survive with 7
[22:32] <wxl> i never used vista either
[23:43] <phillw> wxl: FYI, if jusr has a ready boost certified USB stick, they are fantastic for live USB. They are faster and have to pass tests to ensure that they can handle re-writes. One of the un-expected gifts that microsoft gave to us :)
[23:43] <wxl> phillw: good to know
[23:45] <phillw> wxl: they're not cheap! but they are certified as a good quality, which I think is worth it (I have one).
[23:47] <phillw> the spec is better than the 'cheap' ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost
[23:47] <wxl> yah i looked it up