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| drizzy | hell | 02:57 |
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| drizzy | hello | 02:57 |
| drizzy | what's some of your favorite applications for ubuntu-arm ? | 02:57 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:53 |
| diwic | ogra_, good morning, do you know anything about the status of virtualized ppas for arm? | 08:17 |
| diwic | ogra_, I mean, will they ever arrive? | 08:18 |
| ogra_ | diwic, thats in use since a while | 08:22 |
| ogra_ | if you have a PPA the needs to build arm, you can contact the LP people and have them enable it | 08:23 |
| diwic | ogra_, does that mean we can have arm ppa for non-canonical people? | 08:23 |
| ogra_ | your package should build in a sane time though, nothing that builds several days is allowed etc | 08:23 |
| ogra_ | yes | 08:23 |
| diwic | \o/ | 08:23 |
| ogra_ | there was a mail about that | 08:23 |
| ogra_ | about two months ago or so | 08:23 |
| lilstevie | nice | 08:23 |
| lilstevie | about time :p | 08:24 |
| diwic | ogra_, what list? | 08:25 |
| ogra_ | either u-devel or u-devel-discuss | 08:26 |
| * ogra_ forgot which one | 08:26 | |
| diwic | ogra_, looking at both but cannot find it | 08:27 |
| diwic | ogra_, maybe they don't have "arm" or "ppa" in the subject line | 08:27 |
| ogra_ | well, ask in #launchpad, i'm sure they can point you to it (or just enable arm for you) | 08:28 |
| ogra_ | i cant find it either | 08:28 |
| scientes | what are you looking for? | 08:29 |
| scientes | ppas build for armhf (raring drops armel, so not sure about that) | 08:29 |
| diwic | ogra_, https://dev.launchpad.net/CommunityARMBuilds | 08:29 |
| ogra_ | yeah, that was in the mail too | 08:30 |
| ogra_ | great | 08:30 |
| * ogra_ bookmarks for the next person asking :) | 08:30 | |
| scientes | that page should mention armel vs armhf | 08:33 |
| ogra_ | why ? armel is dead | 08:33 |
| scientes | ok your right | 08:34 |
| ogra_ | it wasnt supported in the last LTS | 08:34 |
| ogra_ | (it was "just there" though) | 08:34 |
| scientes | ogra_, it was release with last LTS | 08:34 |
| scientes | but yeah, it was armv7 | 08:34 |
| ogra_ | nope | 08:34 |
| ogra_ | and nope | 08:34 |
| scientes | quantal was armv5 | 08:34 |
| scientes | but precise armel was armv7 | 08:34 |
| ogra_ | precise armel is v5 | 08:35 |
| ogra_ | but was never released as supported arch | 08:35 |
| scientes | fedora is dropping armv5 too | 08:35 |
| ogra_ | (or v6, dont remember exactly, but not v7) | 08:35 |
| scientes | no, precise is armv7 | 08:35 |
| ogra_ | everyone but debian is dropping it | 08:35 |
| scientes | for armel | 08:35 |
| ogra_ | i'm pretty sure we switched it to v6 | 08:36 |
| scientes | ld.gold is broken upstream for armv5, i fixed it and ian says its good, but its not comitted | 08:36 |
| scientes | for quantal AFAIK | 08:36 |
| scientes | but anyways that is past | 08:36 |
| ogra_ | right, we havent supported armel in a while | 08:36 |
| ogra_ | 11.10 was the last one we claimed to support | 08:37 |
| ogra_ | everything after that, while armel was still existsing, had no support for it | 08:37 |
| ogra_ | "best effort community support" :) | 08:38 |
| scientes | so, are the arm-linux-gnueabi and arm-linux-gnueabihf toolchains actually differn't in terms of what they target (besides default options)? | 08:51 |
| scientes | this is a topic that has confused me | 08:51 |
| scientes | or is it just that the multi-arch paths and linker paths are hard coded into them? | 08:51 |
| scientes | wait, its the ABI | 08:52 |
| ogra_ | one builds armel the other armhf | 08:52 |
| scientes | would it really add much size to the binary to support both abi's with one compiler? | 08:52 |
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| ogra_ | dunno, ask hrw | 08:54 |
| ogra_ | he maintains the cross compilers | 08:54 |
| hrw | I maintained | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | oh, i thought you still do it as spare time thing | 08:56 |
| hrw | no, doko kind of took over | 08:56 |
| hrw | ok, 320GB hdd moved to usb3 case. time for cabling | 08:58 |
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| hrw | chromebook -> usb3 hub -> (usb3 case -> sata hdd) + usb-ethernet | 08:59 |
| hrw | one thing to buy during linaro connect - usb3 cables | 09:03 |
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| hrw | 76MB/s sounds much better than 23MB/s | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | arent the cables the same ? | 09:08 |
| * ogra_ doesnt need special cables to get the full throughput out of his 3.0 devices | 09:08 | |
| hrw | ogra_: usb3 cables differ from usb2 cables | 09:08 |
| hrw | other connectors (especially at device side) | 09:09 |
| hrw | and I want to buy longer A-B, A-microusb, A-A extenders | 09:09 |
| hrw | now usb harddrive is faster than internal emmc | 09:11 |
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| lilstevie | ogra_, usb3.0 is electrically different from usb2 | 09:24 |
| ogra_ | lilstevie, well, then it at least behaves great in compatibility mode :) | 09:25 |
| * ogra_ never saw any issues due to having 2.0 cables here, all my disks reach their tech specs | 09:26 | |
| lilstevie | ogra_, heh | 09:28 |
| hrw | real 21m38.431s | 09:38 |
| hrw | nice time for rebuilding kernel | 09:38 |
| hrw | ogra_: while their tech specs are 30MB/s? | 09:38 |
| tjaalton | flashing nexus7 fails here, fastboot flash userdata just says "error: cannot load raring...img" | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | even when done manually | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | current image | 09:50 |
| ogra_ | hrw, more like 70-100MB/s | 10:04 |
| hrw | ogra_: and you try to say that you get this on usb2 cables? | 10:09 |
| tjaalton | same issue with yesterdays image.. | 10:22 |
| scientes | how can i debug EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED with mali non-free graphics? | 10:26 |
| hrw | scientes: which device? | 10:27 |
| scientes | chromebook samsung arm | 10:27 |
| hrw | scientes: which kernel you have? | 10:28 |
| scientes | i can't get EGL/GLESv2 to work | 10:28 |
| scientes | chromeos git tip 3.4 | 10:28 |
| hrw | scientes: and you do not know about https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/ as well? | 10:28 |
| scientes | like rebuilt today | 10:28 |
| * ogra_ has it working ... including flash in chromium | 10:28 | |
| hrw | scientes: which branch | 10:28 |
| scientes | hrw, yes i do | 10:28 |
| scientes | chromeos-3.4 | 10:28 |
| hrw | use R25 | 10:28 |
| hrw | like I did in PPA of that LP project | 10:28 |
| scientes | i independantly packages vboot_reference | 10:29 |
| hrw | fragmentation happens | 10:29 |
| hrw | our vboot-utils got stuck in NEW queue in Debian | 10:29 |
| scientes | the printf() patch is wrong | 10:30 |
| scientes | in yours | 10:30 |
| hrw | patches are welcome? | 10:30 |
| hrw | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/vboot-utils.git;a=summary | 10:30 |
| scientes | hrw, http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/vboot_reference.git | 10:30 |
| hrw | scientes: "git rebase --help" please | 10:32 |
| scientes | yeah i can audit your packaging and pull in what i did | 10:32 |
| scientes | your copyright file looks much better | 10:33 |
| hrw | licencecheck tool is useful | 10:35 |
| scientes | have you tried R26? | 10:37 |
| hrw | no | 10:38 |
| hrw | too many other things to do | 10:38 |
| scientes | ok i will | 10:39 |
| hrw | 300K diff compared to r25 | 10:39 |
| hrw | not too much | 10:39 |
| scientes | well wondering why chromeos-3.4 doesn't work... | 10:40 |
| scientes | also suspend is flaky | 10:40 |
| hrw | scientes: if you have lot of time then feel free to find out. if not: R25 | 10:41 |
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| hrw | wow! my fresh 13.04 installation just booted on chromebook | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | nice | 12:05 |
| hrw | no wifi firmware | 12:07 |
| hrw | I think that will have to take it from marvell repo and send to linux-firmware repo | 12:08 |
| hrw | ok, sent. I hope that dwmw2 will accept ;D | 12:32 |
| hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2013/02/14/how-to-install-ubuntu-13-04-on-chromebook/ | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | hrw, fail ... not intrested in using SDs :P | 13:22 |
| hrw | ogra_: I do not plan to destroy my working 13.04 installation which I have on internal ;d | 13:23 |
| ogra_ | pfft, do it for the community ! | 13:23 |
| hrw | I will check how to upgrade chrubuntu to 13.04 on weekend | 13:24 |
| hrw | but also on sd | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | hrw, i assume to just use your kernel i just need to use all these commands for mmcblk0p1 instead oof 1p1 ? | 13:24 |
| hrw | yes | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | ok | 13:24 |
| hrw | moment | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | i dont want to destroy my install either ... but want to use your kernel | 13:24 |
| hrw | s/mmcblk1p1/KERN-x/ | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | ok | 13:25 |
| * ogra_ will try on the weekend | 13:25 | |
| hrw | you need to check which KERN-[ABC] you use and replace kernel in it | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | i want a kernel with zram | 13:25 |
| hrw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650688/ | 13:25 |
| hrw | it is my do-a-kernel.sh | 13:25 |
| hrw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650692/ - write-a-kernel.sh | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | dude ! | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | that should be a flash-kernel patch ! | 13:26 |
| hrw | is flash-kernel able to identify board in other way than /proc/cpuinfo? | 13:26 |
| hrw | Hardware : SAMSUNG EXYNOS5 (Flattened Device Tree) | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | how do you identify it ? | 13:27 |
| hrw | that's chromebook, probably also nexus10, maybe andale | 13:27 |
| suihkulokki | that kind of definitions are going to become really common with device tree enabled platforms | 13:28 |
| hrw | exactly | 13:29 |
| hrw | ogra_: and how flash-kernel have to guess where I keep kernel? | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | z`z`s/guess/detect/ | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:29 |
| hrw | /dev/mmcblk0p{2,4,6} or /dev/mmcblk1p1 or maybe I use U-Boot in KERN-C and load kernel from /boot/uImage | 13:30 |
| hrw | so many options | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | well, eventually we should add something to f-k | 13:31 |
| hrw | feel free - you got code | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | yeah, but i'm using the device | 13:31 |
| hrw | do not forget to add dependencies on cgpt and vboot-utils which are stuck in NEW in Debian | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | yeah, we'll have to wait anyway | 13:31 |
| hrw | we have 3 chromebook packages in NEW in Ubuntu | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | still ? | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | slackers ! | 13:32 |
| hrw | I can wait - they are also in PPA :D | 13:35 |
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| drizzy | what are some of your favorite applications that you run on ubuntu-arm ? | 20:19 |
| ogra_ | the same i run on ubuntu x86 | 20:19 |
| infinity | I don't have favourites: I love all my software equally. | 20:25 |
| darkfaded | drizzy: nagios, dhcp, dns :) | 20:38 |
| drizzy | basic services are your favorite apps darkfaded? | 20:39 |
| drizzy | infinity: that's cute | 20:39 |
| darkfaded | drizzy: for the ubuntu/arm: yes - because it silently does its job | 20:40 |
| drizzy | i understand | 20:40 |
| darkfaded | and the power consumption is so low that i'll never need to think about it again | 20:40 |
| drizzy | :) | 20:40 |
| darkfaded | what will / are you running on it? | 20:41 |
| drizzy | i'm running all the standard daemons | 20:51 |
| drizzy | but i also run xchat and audacious on it | 20:51 |
| drizzy | i installed gimp | 20:51 |
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| Tassadar | bootloader update broke kexec-hardboot on Nexus 7, anybody has any idea what might be wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/1654119/ ? | 23:00 |
| Tassadar | hm, looks like it just needs different --mem-min setting, the part of memory is probably erased during reboot or something | 23:12 |
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| xnox | argh! | 23:34 |
| xnox | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/12/new-android-4-2-2-feature-usb-debug-whitelist-prevents-adb-savvy-thieves-from-stealing-your-data-in-some-situations/ | 23:34 |
| Tassadar | ..yeah :/ | 23:35 |
| xnox | ogra_: https://gist.github.com/archon810/4772945/raw/c845a6282dbc2b55a6697c5e2ffe831263db3a86/Changelog_android-4.2.1_r1.2_android-4.2.2_r1.txt 4.2.2 details | 23:35 |
| Tassadar | hmm, what does kernel cmdline parameter "vmalloc" do? | 23:40 |
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| Tassadar | it was changed from 128mb to 512mb in new n7 bootloader | 23:42 |
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