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| GunnarHj | slangasek: still there? | 00:19 |
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| slangasek | GunnarHj: yep | 00:22 |
| GunnarHj | slangasek: In sudo they have user_readenv=0, so I take it that the sudo tasks are invalid on bug 952185. | 00:28 |
| ubottu | bug 952185 in lightdm (Ubuntu Precise) "~/.pam_environment not parsed by default" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952185 | 00:28 |
| slangasek | GunnarHj: yep, sounds like they are | 00:29 |
| slangasek | GunnarHj: good catch, sorry I overlooked that | 00:29 |
| GunnarHj | slangasek: Ok, then my thinking was right for once. ;-) | 00:29 |
| smoser | slangasek, ok... new theory. | 00:48 |
| smoser | cloud-fconfig actually just writes the shell script. | 00:48 |
| smoser | cloud-final would run it | 00:48 |
| smoser | cloud-final runs on | 00:49 |
| smoser | start on (stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345] and stopped cloud-config) | 00:49 |
| slangasek | smoser: well, that doesn't look problematic to me | 00:49 |
| smoser | no? | 00:50 |
| smoser | i think this was reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1103881 | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1103881 in upstart (Ubuntu) "cloud-final is never executed if upstart is upgraded during initialization of the image " [High,Confirmed] | 00:50 |
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| slangasek | ah | 00:50 |
| smoser | which i think is a wrong diagnosis, i'm seeing this without upgrade of upstart. | 00:50 |
| slangasek | mm | 00:50 |
| slangasek | well, jibel seemed convinced it was happening only when upstart was getting upgraded | 00:51 |
| smoser | in our pastebin here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1646707/ | 00:51 |
| smoser | we never see 'rc' stop | 00:51 |
| slangasek | ah | 00:51 |
| slangasek | so what all is in /etc/rc2.d/ ? | 00:52 |
| slangasek | the only thing I know of that would prevent 'rc' from stopping is an init script that's hanging | 00:52 |
| slangasek | and jibel's bug does show rc being stopped (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/129295546/LP1103881.dmesg) | 00:53 |
| slangasek | so I think you have two different bugs with the same symptom | 00:53 |
| smoser | hm... so maybe they're coincidence. | 00:53 |
| smoser | just 'set -x' on rc | 00:54 |
| smoser | into /run/log | 00:54 |
| smoser | so i'll see that here in a minute. | 00:54 |
| slangasek | ok | 00:54 |
| smoser | slangasek, i've got to run again. i'm really confused now. | 01:04 |
| smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647304/ | 01:04 |
| slangasek | smoser: well, this shows no rc (or rc-sysinit) job running at all... ? | 01:05 |
| smoser | right. | 01:05 |
| smoser | tomorrow | 01:07 |
| * xnox waves from february 14th =) the international day of loving to debug mysterious presents in boot stacks | 01:25 | |
| slangasek | it's a niche holiday | 01:25 |
| mwhudson | not really the right place to ask the question but | 01:37 |
| mwhudson | are there any docs on building custom initramfses? | 01:37 |
| mwhudson | i want mkfs + friends in one | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | You need only write a hook for update-initramfs to run to put the files you want in the initramfs. | 01:38 |
| mwhudson | sounds suspiciously easy | 01:39 |
| hallyn | hm, my boot time in raring just got really bad in the last few days. from about 8 secs to about 30 secs. bootchart doesn't show disk use or anything... | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | mwhudson: Look in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/ for some good examples. | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | mwhudson: Then its just a matter of writing extra hooks to be run in the initramfs. | 01:39 |
| mwhudson | ok | 01:39 |
| mwhudson | do you have to build the initramfs on the same arch as you're going to run it on? | 01:40 |
| mwhudson | i guess practically speaking yes | 01:40 |
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| cjwatson | Yeah | 01:40 |
| cjwatson | Since it copies stuff from the host fs | 01:40 |
| hallyn | really dbus-daemon is the only thing that stops right when gnome stuff finally starts | 01:41 |
| mwhudson | i suppose you can chroot + qemu-arm-static | 01:41 |
| mwhudson | but | 01:41 |
| cjwatson | In principle yes | 01:41 |
| cjwatson | amd64 <-> i386 probably works fine with chroots; not sure if there mightn't be some weird quirk with ARM, but worth trying if it would make life easier | 01:42 |
| mwhudson | not sure if it would tbh | 01:42 |
| mwhudson | just the tediousness of copying files around | 01:42 |
| penguin42 | mwhudson: You can, it does work for simple stuff (or did 18 months or so ago last time I tried it) | 01:45 |
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| * xnox does qemu-arm-static a lot. For most things it's quicker than panda, but nexus7 beats it, as compared to my i5 | 01:47 | |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:36 |
| YokoZar | *files bug against 6 packages, uploads debdiffs for all, makes sponsorship queue sad* | 06:03 |
| YokoZar | Is it correct for apt-get-install foo to bail out if recommends are uninstallable without the --no-install-recommends flag, or should apt be trying to get as many as it can? | 06:06 |
| slangasek | YokoZar: unsatisfiable recommends should not cause apt-get to bail out, though they will cause warnings to be output | 06:09 |
| YokoZar | slangasek: Then this is also an apt bug :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/winetricks/+bug/1123710 | 06:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1123710 in winetricks (Ubuntu) "wine1.4:i386 not installable on raring amd64" [Low,Triaged] | 06:10 |
| slangasek | YokoZar: I'm reasonably certain that the problem there is not that the recommends are uninstallable, but that the recommends are available, apt follows them, and as a result renders one of the *depends* uninstallable | 06:12 |
| slangasek | so... yes, apt could be smarter about skipping the recommends in that case, but this is a complicated problem | 06:13 |
| YokoZar | slangasek: so apt is considering switching a recommended (arch all but not M-A: foreign) package to it's "i386" version, then trying to get i386 versions of the arch:all's package depends, and then hitting a conflict and giving up rather than just ignoring the recommend | 06:15 |
| slangasek | hitting a conflict because it's managed to break one of the dependencies in the process and is too far down the rabbit hole to unwind | 06:16 |
| YokoZar | slangasek: I think that's right...and I think correct for apt in this case would be to ignore the recommended package rather than count the installed arch:all version as conflicting with itself. | 06:16 |
| slangasek | well, it wouldn't try to use i386 packages to satisfy the dependencies of an Arch: all package, no | 06:17 |
| YokoZar | I meant transitive i386 deps | 06:17 |
| YokoZar | eg when an arch: all package had arch specific deps | 06:17 |
| slangasek | still no | 06:17 |
| slangasek | an Arch: all package will have its deps satisfied by packages of the native arch | 06:17 |
| YokoZar | only if it's marked M-A foreign, yes? | 06:18 |
| YokoZar | (in the case of installing a non-native package that depends on the arch:all package) | 06:18 |
| slangasek | no | 06:18 |
| slangasek | an Arch: all package is treated as equivalent to a package of the native arch, in every way | 06:19 |
| YokoZar | Err then I'm confused because all the conflicts in question in the linked bug are recommends of arch:all packages | 06:19 |
| YokoZar | indeed, already installed arch:all packages | 06:19 |
| slangasek | well, I can't reproduce that error output on a raring system, so | 06:19 |
| slangasek | I get a completely different set of conflicts | 06:19 |
| YokoZar | apt-get install wine1.4 first | 06:19 |
| slangasek | ah right, I have wine1.5 installed | 06:20 |
| YokoZar | then remove it (but not the stuff it pulls in) and apt-get install wine1.4:i386 | 06:20 |
| slangasek | YokoZar: still can't reproduce this in a clean chroot (and I'm not clobbering the wine1.5 install on my desktop for testing right now) | 06:31 |
| YokoZar | slangasek: The fact that you want to protect your wine1.5 install makes me kinda happy :D | 06:37 |
| slangasek | I'd be happier if the software in question didn't need it ;) | 06:38 |
| YokoZar | slangasek: I'll see if I can nail down an exact repro step on a new VM | 06:39 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:53 |
| Dedunu | good morning | 08:21 |
| Adri2000 | I've got a bug waiting for archive admin action since last december (#1086468). did I do something wrong? :) | 08:47 |
| seb128 | bug #1086468 | 08:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1086468 in obm (Ubuntu) "Please remove obm source and binaries from raring" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086468 | 08:47 |
| seb128 | Adri2000, seems not, it's just that removal are not always done regularly I think | 08:48 |
| Adri2000 | as long as it's processed before raring is released, it's ok for me :) | 08:50 |
| seb128 | it will, no worry | 08:50 |
| didrocks | doing right now :) | 08:51 |
| didrocks | Adri2000: done | 08:53 |
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| Adri2000 | didrocks: thanks | 08:55 |
| didrocks | yw | 08:55 |
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| pitti | seb128: I'm not a big fan of a comment field for whoopsie reports because we are never going to actually review them all | 09:02 |
| pitti | seb128: and it would create the impression that this is a kind of bug report | 09:03 |
| pitti | seb128: I'd much rather see the "collect extra information" or "request filing a bug report the next time" flag | 09:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, we could have both ;-) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | not denying we need the "request info" | 09:03 |
| seb128 | but as said going through an hundred description can be enough to see a pattern | 09:04 |
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| seb128 | like "I was changing user when it happened" | 09:04 |
| seb128 | 5 of those in a long stack can be enough to give an useful clue | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: for those I'd personally prefer a bug report | 09:05 |
| pitti | seb128: but anyway, I'm not strongly vetoing this, I'm just not a fan of it | 09:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, @bug report, I though the idea was to stop reports to launchpad, so we need to get the infos we need linked to the whoopsie reports | 09:07 |
| pitti | seb128: right, but add a flag "the next person to encounter that please file a bug report", and it waits until someone actually does | 09:07 |
| pitti | there will always be cases where we need a proper dialog with reporters | 09:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I just feel like if we start automatically abusing that feature to ask "what were you doing" on most bugs then it's a sign that something is not right in the system | 09:10 |
| seb128 | and that maybe the info should be asked upfront | 09:10 |
| seb128 | oh well, let's see how it works in practice | 09:10 |
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| seb128 | bdrung, so, after sponsoring libreoffice for Sweetshark, do you feel more comfortable for the ppu? should he run again, or is there anything you recommend him to work on/change to be accepted? | 09:33 |
| seb128 | bdrung, the details you found/fixed in your review seems mostly small and old packaging glitches, mostly cosmetic or coming from Debian, not mistakes from Bjoern | 09:34 |
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| davmor2 | hey guys I have done a fresh install of Raring on my Lenovo Y580, good news bluetooth now works out of the box huzzah, bad news the screen is black because it is dimmed right down, I have to wait for the drums and then I can up the brightness, is there any info I can get on it for you | 11:41 |
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| xnox | micahg: announcement? =) | 13:42 |
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| mdeslaur | cyphermox: FYI, I'm going to nag you to get dnsmasq 2.66 into raring as soon as it comes out | 14:20 |
| mdeslaur | cyphermox: 2.65 breaks local resolution with libvirt | 14:20 |
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| cyphermox | mdeslaur: ok | 14:36 |
| smoser | jodh, ping wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1124384 | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1124384 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "reload-configuration can confuse upstart" [High,Confirmed] | 14:58 |
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| jodh | smoser: were you running upstart in debug mode at the time? | 15:18 |
| smoser | have have dmesg output with --verbose | 15:18 |
| smoser | i can easily get you --debug | 15:18 |
| jodh | smoser: yes please | 15:18 |
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| smoser | slangasek, i'd appreciate your thoughts/input on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-initramfs-tools/+bug/1123220 | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1123220 in cloud-initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "cloud-image VM causes kernel panic if image is resized" [Low,Triaged] | 15:54 |
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| SpamapS | are there known bugs in raring causing X to repeat keypresses a lot? like just normal typing but suddenlllllllllllly l repeates a bunch? | 16:15 |
| smoser | i've not seen that. | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | I hesitate to report bugs from my old macbook pro.. because it has been dist-upgraded early in each cycle since it was installed with 10.10 alphasomething | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | but its getting rather frustrating :-P | 16:16 |
| dobey | i've never seen that either | 16:17 |
| infinity | @pilot in | 16:17 |
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| dobey | only on my phone, which isn't ubuntu | 16:17 |
| jdstrand | hallyn: hey, fyi, I just pushed libivt ubuntu5 for an apparmor denial | 16:18 |
| jdstrand | hallyn: libvirt* | 16:19 |
| smoser | @pilot out | 16:20 |
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| hallyn | jdstrand: ok. possibly related to the nova bug zul was mentioning? | 16:20 |
| jdstrand | I doubt it: access to @{PROC}/sys/vm/overcommit_memory r | 16:20 |
| jdstrand | seemed like a harmless denial | 16:20 |
| jdstrand | (but noisy) | 16:21 |
| hallyn | oh, ok | 16:21 |
| apw | slangasek, can you remind me when and who switches us to vt during boot | 16:23 |
| apw | slangasek, in the non vt-handoff case | 16:24 |
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| user12423 | is ubuntu 12.04.2 released yet? | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | user12423: Nearly but not quite | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | Sorting out the tail end of testing | 16:39 |
| user12423 | cjwatson: how much time will be take? Will it be released today? | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | Let's just say that I'm doing the release, I'm in the UK, and I want to be able to go to the pub with a clear conscience this evening | 16:40 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 16:40 |
| user12423 | cjwatson: I have read that ubuntu 12.04.2 comes with kernel 3.5. Will it work with proprietary ati drivers for radeon 4000 series as they are not compatible with quantal? | 16:42 |
| cjwatson | I'm afraid I don't know; you'll have to ask X folks, perhaps #ubuntu-x | 16:42 |
| user12423 | cjwatson: ok thanks | 16:42 |
| infinity | user12423: Installing with 12.04.1 media and upgrading will have you on a 3.2 kernel by default, if you have a proprietary blob that hates 3.5 | 16:48 |
| user12423 | infinity: amd recently updated their legacy drivers to version 13.1, don't they work too in 3.5? | 16:49 |
| infinity | user12423: I have no idea, they may well work. I was just saying "if they don't.." | 16:49 |
| user12423 | infinity: ok | 16:51 |
| seb128 | @pilot in | 17:08 |
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| hallyn | slangasek: is the ovmf package intended to have a readme? | 17:34 |
| * hallyn wiating for src to d/l over slow link | 17:35 | |
| hallyn | ok, i guess it's just my iso that's the problem - waiting for an even longer release iso d/l :) | 17:43 |
| quadrispro | hi everybody | 18:02 |
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| quadrispro | I see dogtail is currently blacklisted, could anyone remove it from the sync-blacklist? Upstream has started again to develop and support dogtail, I took it in Debian | 18:06 |
| quadrispro | the latest release is available in experimental | 18:07 |
| mitya57_ | quadrispro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dogtail/+bug/460210/comments/8 | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 460210 in dogtail (Ubuntu) "Sync dogtail 0.8.1-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) and remove it from the blacklist" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 18:08 |
| quadrispro | mitya57_, cool! thanks, I'll look into it | 18:08 |
| quadrispro | mitya57_, uploading the patch to experimental in few minutes | 18:13 |
| mitya57_ | quadrispro: great, please also leave a comment on that bug | 18:14 |
| didrocks | barry: it seems you didn't merge oneconf 0.3.3 to lp:oneconf? | 18:21 |
| barry | didrocks: in a meeting... | 18:21 |
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| mitya57_ | quadrispro: did you really want to remove "def _getEncoding(self):" line? | 18:32 |
| mitya57_ | nevermind, I've got confused by diff output :) | 18:33 |
| quadrispro | eh yes :) np | 18:34 |
| quadrispro | see you around | 18:34 |
| * mitya57_ wishes good night to everybody | 18:47 | |
| seb128 | stgraber, hey, can you set https://code.launchpad.net/~baltix/ubuntu/precise/ubuntu-defaults-builder/remove-quotes-from-firefox-bookmarks-titles/+merge/137107 as "work in progress"? | 19:00 |
| stgraber | seb128: done | 19:00 |
| seb128 | stgraber, thanks | 19:00 |
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| slangasek | smoser: bug #1123220> hmm, that seems to me that your a) option is the best (kernel not attaching /dev/console to something that doesn't work) | 19:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1123220 in cloud-initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "cloud-image VM causes kernel panic if image is resized" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1123220 | 19:10 |
| slangasek | apw: what do you mean by "to vt"? | 19:10 |
| timrc | wookey, Hi, I've been trying to figure out multistrap.. I noticed in raring version, 2.1.6ubuntu3, still contains /usr/share/multistrap/ubuntu/crosschroot-maverick.conf -- would you like me to file a bug on this? | 19:10 |
| slangasek | hallyn: I didn't put any readme in the ovmf package, no | 19:11 |
| smoser | slangasek, but kernel is really dumb | 19:16 |
| smoser | and that assignment happens really early | 19:17 |
| smoser | back some time ago i had smb investigate a bit and he seemed to think that was non-trivial | 19:17 |
| smoser | even in the event that the kernel was smarter, having safety code in upstart and initramfs seems like it wouldn't hurt. | 19:18 |
| slangasek | smoser: well, in this case you say it's crashing in the initramfs, right? we might reasonably be able to make upstart itself more robust against a broken /dev/console... but not every command that might write to stdout in the initramfs. | 19:18 |
| smoser | sh -e 'echo hi; echo by' should not exit failure. thats just not friendly to anyone. | 19:18 |
| smoser | slangasek, my suggestion was that in the initramfs (early) we do the code i posted. | 19:19 |
| slangasek | smoser: yes, but afaics that would merely be advisory? | 19:19 |
| smoser | basically redirecting to somewhere in /run or /dev/null if we can't find something useful. | 19:19 |
| smoser | huh? | 19:19 |
| slangasek | oh, you're proposing actually redirecting, ok | 19:20 |
| smoser | oh. yes, clearly if some other script in the initramfs opened /dev/console explicitly, then i can't stop that. | 19:20 |
| smoser | but stdout shouldn't be broken. | 19:20 |
| slangasek | well, init will reopen the console | 19:20 |
| slangasek | I don't know if it fails in this case | 19:20 |
| smoser | right. | 19:20 |
| smoser | so upstart would need the same thing. | 19:20 |
| smoser | open succeeds | 19:20 |
| smoser | writes fail | 19:20 |
| slangasek | I really think this needs to be fixed in the kernel | 19:21 |
| slangasek | trivial or not | 19:21 |
| slangasek | /dev/console should not be broken when you write to it | 19:21 |
| smoser | slangasek, it seems like maybe my suggested work aroudn wouldn't work. see https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1061977/comments/4 . i'm not certain that is correct, but i seem to remember that some writes to /dev/console worked fine. | 19:25 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1061977 in MAAS "Machine fails to commission when console=ttyS0 is present on kernel opts" [Critical,Fix released] | 19:25 |
| smoser | as if there was a buffer that got filled up and it didn't fail until kernel tried to flush that | 19:26 |
| slangasek | smoser: yeah, I was just going to say, if this is related to the other bugs I've seen before in this area, there's probably kernel buffering making a mess of it besides | 19:26 |
| smoser | fwiw, we have 'console=ttyS0' (and want to keep that) because cloud providers (ec2 and openstack at least) give you access to data written to the serial device | 19:28 |
| smoser | so you can view that log. if we have *no* console= parms, then it goes to a vga device, which is completely useless. | 19:28 |
| * slangasek nods | 19:30 | |
| hallyn | slangasek: ok - i just wasn't sure if there was something i could/should do to work around the 'secure boot not enabled' msg. | 19:30 |
| slangasek | hallyn: you can nag me to fix that output from shim :) | 19:30 |
| hallyn | nag, i can do that :) | 19:31 |
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| seb128 | @pilot out | 21:56 |
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| ogra_ | geez | 21:56 |
| ogra_ | nighflight | 21:56 |
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| zykes- | 7win 38 | 22:54 |
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| m4n1sh | Laney, cjwatson : is the feature freeze applicable to a main package which has a revamped UI but hardly any new features. I hope so, but just cross checking | 23:34 |
| m4n1sh | AFAIK you both are in release team | 23:34 |
| RAOF | The UI would most certainly be considered a feature. :) | 23:37 |
| m4n1sh | RAOF: please tell me you are joking | 23:38 |
| m4n1sh | or maybe my sarcasm detector is broken | 23:39 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze | 23:39 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure how you'd significantly rework the UI *without* requiring a FFe. | 23:39 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: also note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#UserInterfaceFreeze_Exceptions | 23:39 |
| RAOF | Or, to put it another way, a revamped UI is *definitely* a feature. | 23:39 |
| * xnox once revampted a non-essential ubiquity screen - only to crash by default the installer due to i18n error | 23:40 | |
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| xnox | m4n1sh: the point is that it's potentially disruptive and can introduce bugs. | 23:41 |
| xnox | when one least expects them. | 23:41 |
| m4n1sh | yeah, introducing bug is surely the biggest problem | 23:41 |
| m4n1sh | xnox: Thanks. So that means I am really short of time | 23:41 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: what package is it? | 23:41 |
| m4n1sh | xnox: activity-log-manager | 23:42 |
| m4n1sh | The new design by matthew paul thomas | 23:42 |
| m4n1sh | it has been present since long and implemented too, but I am fighting with the code (some startup issues) and build system | 23:42 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: right so User Interface Freeze is on the 21st. Just work through it and polish it, then request FFe and everything will be good. | 23:43 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: you have 5 weeks \o/ | 23:43 |
| RAOF | You might also want to ask for a *preemptive* FFe; the release team like to know what's coming up. | 23:44 |
| m4n1sh | xnox: yeah. Just hopeful it doesnt break anything new. | 23:44 |
| m4n1sh | RAOF: Yes. that would be better | 23:44 |
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| m4n1sh | xnox: this is the mockup https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/aYbxFHevnMXUmWkVF73FXF1IGj8AaxMRWCZKJb71V3vsKpWWEVmlZ7S9U-QKV3UuquFSbeU5PxnFoVXxMSlwxzfQCDmh38wKJF9ztV7MW_v_kcvO31U | 23:47 |
| m4n1sh | Just FYI | 23:47 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: the joined up dropdown + and - buttons with toolbar inline style in gtk has a bug where it will not look joined up, just so you know | 23:48 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: can grub2 read kernel + initramfs from within a raid6 mdadm array ? | 23:48 |
| * xnox has some glade work with a similar pattern from mpt for ubiquity | 23:48 | |
| m4n1sh | xnox: in raring? | 23:49 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: it did in quantal, didn't check raring recently. | 23:49 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: yeap still broken - open "Videos" (totem) and look at the buttons just below the playlist | 23:50 |
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| m4n1sh | xnox: I can see this http://i.imgur.com/vUJkhpT.png | 23:51 |
| xnox | m4n1sh: the most right "v" button should be rounded on the right | 23:52 |
| xnox | e.g. (+ | - | v | ^ | v ) not (+ | - | v | ^ | v ] | 23:52 |
| m4n1sh | xnox: oh yeah. It slipped my eyes, I thought you were talking about the buttons being spaced apart | 23:52 |
| m4n1sh | yeah, that is a bug | 23:52 |
| xnox | but it's a theming issue. | 23:53 |
| * xnox filed it against light-themes but still not fixed. maybe i'll have to write the patch =( | 23:53 | |
| xnox | m4n1sh: i could also trigger it to appear as ( | )[ | | ] which is even more ugly =/ | 23:53 |
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| m4n1sh | yeah, or every button be squared | 23:54 |
| m4n1sh | atleast that would have consistency | 23:54 |
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