[09:19] <smb> g'morning
[09:31] <smb> apw, If you wanna listen you have to take off the deafners
[09:33] <apw> smb, heh indeed
[09:48] <zequence> apw: precise lowlatency is ready to be pulled
[09:50] <apw> zequence, again, already, sigh :)
[09:57] <apw> zequence, one think you could be doing when you add the tracking bug to your changelog is changing the version number in the title of the bug, this is used by the bot which tracks things
[09:57] <apw> zequence, i have changed bug #1124517 for this upload so you can see the form it expects
[09:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1124517 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-lowlatency: <version to be filled> -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124517
[09:58] <apw> or ... bug #1124517
[09:58] <apw> oh being smart are we ubot ... th
[09:58] <apw> that would be a first
[10:03] <zequence> apw: Alright. I'll do that from now on then
[10:03] <apw> zequence, thanks :)
[10:03] <apw> oh look i can verify your tag, most excellent
[13:18]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:36] <rtg> ogra_, no joy on getting a graphical display to show up on my freshly installed (and fully charged) Nexus 7
[13:36] <ogra_> hmpf
[13:37] <rtg> ogra_, shall I go back to 12.10 and then upgrade ?
[13:37] <ogra_> rtg, but you see a console or is it plain black ?
[13:37] <ogra_> no
[13:37] <rtg> ogra_, plain black after plymouth quits
[13:37] <ogra_> 12.10 isnt upgrade safe, it was a demo and is full of hacks
[13:37]  * ogra_ scratches head
[13:38] <rtg> I can see the console by hitting the volume button
[13:38] <rtg> until X takes over
[13:38] <ogra_> i know tjaalton installed today 
[13:38] <ogra_> he had issues, but with fastboot when copying the image, but X seems to have worked fine for him
[13:38] <ogra_> (enough to test a bugfix for the xserver)
[13:39] <rtg> As far as I can tell I had no fastboot issues
[13:39] <ogra_> rtg, from whern is that image ? we had some buildd issues the last days
[13:39] <rtg> ogra_, yesterday I think
[13:39] <ogra_> hmm, that should be fine 
[13:39] <rtg> it downloaded a giant chunk of something
[13:40] <ogra_> it ?
[13:40] <rtg> the GUI N7 installer
[13:40] <rtg> maybe I should try it by hand from the CLI
[13:40] <ogra_> ah, never used it (fastboot is so easy that i really dont need a gui to replace 3 commands)
[13:41] <ogra_> i see that there was a .1 build yesterday
[13:41] <rtg> ogra_, well, lemme give that a whirl.
[13:41] <ogra_> not sure why 
[13:41] <ogra_> try todays image too 
[13:41] <rtg> yep
[13:42] <ogra_> might be that you used 20130212 instead of 12.1 and there is likely a reason it was manually rebuilt (i guess by infinity)
[13:43] <rtg> ogra_, this one ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz
[13:43] <ogra_> yeah, thats the 0213 image
[14:33] <rtg> ogra_, still no joy with CLI method. I re-installed the android factory image just to be sure I didn't have a HW problem.
[14:34] <ogra_> and the cli install went fine (on the PC side) ? no errors or anything ?
[14:34] <rtg> yep
[14:35] <ogra_> hmm
[14:35] <ogra_> i dont get wht the same image worked for tjaalton without issues
[14:35] <rtg> this is one of the units that I got from Canonical, via pgraner IIRC
[14:35] <ogra_> *why
[14:35] <rtg> did tjaalton do a complete image install ?
[14:35] <ogra_> well, they only differ in MMC size (and some have 3G) 
[14:36] <ogra_> so it shouldnt have any impact on the functional side
[14:36] <ogra_> i think he did, yeah
[14:36] <rtg> you wouldn't think it would affect the display
[14:36] <ogra_> right
[14:37] <ogra_> how long did you leave it with the dark screen ?
[14:37] <rtg> minutes and minutes
[14:37] <ogra_> oem-config can take quite a while to start up
[14:37] <ogra_> yeah, shouldnt take minutes
[14:37] <ogra_> well, let me wipe my device and do an install myself, we'll see 
[14:38] <rtg> k
[14:41] <ogra_> actually, hmm
[14:41] <ogra_> rtg, you see the splash before the installer runs ? 
[14:42] <ogra_> there shouldnt be any splash
[14:42]  * ogra_ reboots after flashing
[14:42] <rtg> ogra_, um, not sure what you mean. I see plymouth doing its thing after reboot.
[14:43] <ogra_> oh, so your installl finished and you did run through oem-config 
[14:43]  * ogra_ thought it dies before 
[14:44] <rtg> I assume oem-config is where you get to add your login info ?
[14:44] <ogasawara> rtg, ogra_ : I was seeing the same issue as rtg attempting to install the images from 20130212 and  20130213 (ie black screen after plymouth, then nothing).  I however specifically just tried the 20130212.1 and it's working here (at least I'm going through oem-config).
[14:44] <ogra_> rtg, exactly
[14:44] <rtg> ogra_, its not getting that far. black screen after plymouth
[14:45] <ogra_> mine is still extracting the tarball here ... *twiddle*
[14:45] <ogra_> rtg, right, there should be no plymouth at that point
[14:45] <ogra_> lets see what mine does
[14:45] <rtg> ogasawara, where did you get 20130212.1 ?
[14:45] <ogasawara> rtg: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/20130212.1/
[14:46] <ogra_> replace /current in the url 
[14:46] <rtg> ogasawara, hmm, I'm pretty sure I _didn't_ get that one.
[14:46] <ogra_> current always links to the last ... but we usually keep the images of the last three days 
[14:47] <rtg> right, both images are within 60 seconds of being the same date
[14:49] <ogra_> then most likely one of tehm is broken
[14:49] <rtg> then I'll try .1
[14:51]  * ogra_ sees the splash
[14:52] <ogra_> and a black screen :?
[14:52] <ogra_> :/
[14:53] <rtg> at least I'm not special :)
[14:53]  * ogra_ logs in via serial ... luckily we have that on by default
[14:53] <rtg> what is the default login/passwd for serial ?
[14:54] <ogra_> bah, indeed, that wont work without oem-config being run
[14:54] <rtg> that was my experience
[14:55]  * ogra_ gets a keyboard then
[14:55] <ogra_> its a bit fiddly, but you can modify the bootimg file's kernel commandline and add break=bottom so you can chroot and add a user
[14:56] <rtg> ogra_, I couldn't get a console to come up either using a keyboard and ctrl-alt-F1
[14:56] <ogra_> yeah, once X is started consoles dont work ... drawback of the binary driver
[14:56] <rtg> ah, bummer
[14:56] <ogra_> but working from initrd works 
[14:57] <ogra_> i definitely blame oem-config/ubiquity here 
[14:58] <ogra_> hmm, resetting doesnt even get me to plymouth
[14:58] <ogra_> oh, it does, just took a while
[14:59] <ogra_> i guess ureadahead does its forst profiling
[14:59] <ogra_> *first
[15:11]  * ogra_ curses
[15:12] <rtg> ogra_, I get the oem setup screen with 20130212.1 but can't see any input from the virtual keyboard
[15:12] <rtg> ogasawara, did you have that problem ?
[15:12] <ogra_> rtg, reboot, known bug
[15:12] <rtg> ogra_, using the power button ?
[15:12] <ogra_> its a race with compiz it seems
[15:12] <ogra_> yeah
[15:13] <ogasawara> rtg: I did see the same, so plugged in a usb keyboard
[15:13] <ogra_> it should work after a reboot ... started to happen when the installer was switched from metacity to compiz
[15:13] <rtg> ogasawara, USB keyboard didn't work either
[15:14] <ogasawara> rtg: I did flip back and forth from the previous language selection page
[15:18]  * rtg does some cursing himself.
[15:18] <ogra_> onboard doesnt work for you on the second boot ?
[15:18] <rtg> nope
[15:18] <ogra_> weird
[15:18] <rtg> booting again
[15:18] <ogra_> seems to work for everyone else 
[15:19] <rtg> I hate being special
[15:19] <bjf> rtg, i had issues with the virtual kbd. took a few install retries to get it to work
[15:19] <tjaalton> yeah the yesterdays image worked fine for me, background image of the setup tool was broken but otherwise fine
[15:20] <rtg> ok, virtual keyboard works this time
[15:21] <ogra_> great
[15:21] <ogra_> i plan to track that down next week
[15:21] <ogra_> though its a race, wont be easy to find 
[15:22] <ogra_> i dont get hwy 0213 doesnt work at all though
[15:22]  * ogra_ blames the kernel :P
[15:22] <rtg> ogra_, huh, I don't think that changed :)
[15:22] <ogra_> details 
[15:27] <rtg> ogra_, lightgdm doesn't support the virtual keyboard at the login ?
[15:29] <ogra_> rtg, its hidden in the top bar 
[15:30]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:34] <rtg> ogra_, ok, found it. the icon is so dang small that I can hardly hit it with my fat 'ol finger. the first time up the keyboard contents were completely scrambled.
[15:35] <ogra_> yeah, its on my todo to have it shown by default 
[15:35] <ogra_> the corruption is the binary driver, all i can do here is hope for nvidia fixes
[15:35] <ogra_> aha !
[15:36] <ogra_> there is a /tmp/.X0-lock file in the image 
[15:36] <ogra_> which prevents X from starting 
[15:36] <ogra_> (on 0213)
[15:38] <tjaalton> heh
[15:38] <ogra_> i wonder how that got there 
[15:38] <ogra_> and if it actually fixes it to remove it
[15:38]  * ogra_ reboots
[15:39] <ogra_> gah, doesnt help
[15:40] <ogra_> hmpf
[15:40] <ogra_> inbetween we have a 20130214 image
[15:40]  * ogra_ downloads
[15:56] <apw> rtg, i find the keyboard is shown automatically in portrait mode in lightdm but not in landscape
[15:56] <rtg> apw, huh, I guess I didn't hold my head just right :)
[15:56] <apw> heh
[16:01] <ogra_> use mirrors
[16:01] <ogra_> :)
[16:46] <sforshee> stgraber, when you get your x230 fixed don't bother testing the last build I supplied. I'm working on something a little different, should be done before too much longer.
[16:53]  * rtg preps raring for upload (again)
[17:29] <avoine> hello, who is the person I should contact if I want to help testing the new arm multiplatform kernel?
[17:31] <rtg> avoine, you'll want to talk to Paolo (ppisati), but he's out for the day.
[17:31] <avoine> ok
[17:32] <avoine> rtg:  thanks
[17:39] <rtg> ogasawara, all uploaded
[17:39] <ogasawara> rtg: ack, thanks
[17:50] <rtg> sforshee, jsalisbury: need to reboot gomeisa for kernel update.
[17:51] <sforshee> rtg, I'm good, I just had an idle ssh session
[17:55] <apw> rtg is that done yet ?
[17:56] <rtg> apw, you mean is gomeisa done rebooting ?
[17:56] <apw> yeah i was building and just noted this conv.  and wondered if i was at risk or not
[17:57] <apw> rtg, build will be one in about 2m
[17:57] <rtg> on tangerine ?
[17:57] <jcastro> hey does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling still reflect reality? I'd like to blog about the HWE stack for server users with the pending point release and I'd like to make sure my facts are straight.
[17:57] <apw> on gomeisa
[17:57] <rtg> apw, how do you get your stuff to run in stealth mode ? I checked to make sure nothing was running.
[17:58] <apw> rtg heh, perhaps i use your account
[17:58] <apw> rtg, anyhow done and off
[17:58] <rtg> jcastro, check with ogasawara
[17:58] <rtg> apw, gomeisa is back from reboot
[17:59] <ogasawara> jcastro: otp, gimme a bit
[17:59] <rtg> are you sure you were doing something ?
[17:59] <apw> rtg, definatly
[17:59] <jcastro> ogasawara: no worries, I'm just looking for whatever the master doc for HWE for LTS users is.
[18:00] <sforshee> stgraber, new build at http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/lp1098216/linux-3.8.0-6.12~lp1098216v201302141715/ whenever you're ready to test it (if you're not gun shy after last time)
[18:00] <rtg> apw, so I use 'who', 'ps ax', and 'top' to see if anything is going on. is that sufficient ?
[18:00] <apw> rtg yep, i think i started it after you checked, and it is a cross build of n7 so its 3m or something
[18:01] <rtg> ok, well now I'm gonna reboot tangerine. jjohansen
[18:01] <jjohansen> rtg: go ahead
[18:01] <sforshee> stgraber, there's some new stuff that should help with the hotkeys. Please try it normally and also passing video.brightness_switch_enabled=1.
[18:04] <ogasawara> jcastro: so I think the wiki you want is actually https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:05] <jcastro> ogasawara: aw perfect, that's exactly what I need. 
[18:05] <rtg> tangerine is back
[18:21]  * rtg -> lunch
[19:40]  * apw decides that having fixed his network issues he probabally has had enough
[20:08] <unkle_george> So.. What's going to happen if I insmod foo.ko and foo was already built into my running kernel?
[20:12] <mjg59> EEXIST
[20:16] <unkle_george> oooh, ok. Good. thx
[20:19]  * rtg -> EOD