[00:14] <phillw> SergioMeneses: I've finished editing the link with all the logs on :)
[00:15] <SergioMeneses> phillw, great! I think you should send an email sharing the good news
[00:15]  * SergioMeneses is working with oracle :S
[00:17] <phillw> I just need to edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3 as there is a bug in the system that is being resolved for test-drive for 13.04 that 'may' get SRU into 12.10. I doubt I will get Virtual Box 4.2 into the repos for 12.10.
[00:18] <phillw> I do not want to out stay my welcome in -release for getting the repo updated for 13.04 :)
[00:20] <SergioMeneses> phillw, jejeje ok
[00:22] <phillw> reset that area to use VBox 4.1 - safer way :)
[00:23] <SergioMeneses> sure, it is better
[00:24] <phillw> just that 4.1 can't access LVM's, which I use.
[00:28] <SergioMeneses> :O that is a serious problem! I use LVM's very often in my job
[00:29] <balloons> thomi, so on this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1103751, you've carried it as far as makes sense?
[00:30] <thomi> balloons: for the moment, yes. I think alesage was going to ask some Gtk experts about what we can do to load the Gtk module for apps that don't load them automatically
[00:31] <balloons> ahh.. well I appreciate it. I haven't been in the ap world yet this week, but going to double back, as I want to do a screencast (the one we never got to do)
[00:31]  * SergioMeneses instalando CentOS
[00:33] <balloons> ok, so at this point thomi we'll ping if we encounter an issue with a specific app we need
[00:33] <thomi> ok, cool
[00:44] <phillw> SergioMeneses: on my dedi server, 1.8TB out of the 2TB is LVM, on my laptop I have ~ 500GB split over the two disks it has.
[01:15] <SergioMeneses> phillw, I have 500GB on my laptop to play
[01:44] <vibhav> SergioMeneses: I dont know, Randall had told me that we could get this Loco to  work, so I happily agreed
[01:49] <SergioMeneses> vibhav, "ubuntu local community teams" is only for countries as you can see here: https://launchpad.net/~locoteams/+members?active_batch=75&active_memo=75&active_start=75
[01:50] <SergioMeneses> you can check all active members, they are only countries
[01:51] <vibhav> Yes, its a Mars DiCo (Distant Community?)
[01:52] <vibhav> SergioMeneses: Somebody told me to add it to
[01:52] <vibhav> SergioMeneses: sorry :(
[01:52] <SergioMeneses> vibhav, it sounds like a joke jajaja
[01:52] <SergioMeneses> vibhav, but why do you want to add this team?
[01:52] <vibhav> I think it probabaly is
[01:53] <SergioMeneses> what did you want with this?
[01:53] <vibhav> SergioMeneses: Randall Ross told me that  we could energize this team. So we should start wiyh adding it
[01:53] <vibhav> It was anyways a joke ;)
[01:55] <SergioMeneses> vibhav, energize it sounds pretty well, but I think it was wrong, maybe you can publish some post in the planet or something like that to invite people to participate
[01:56] <SergioMeneses> and if I could help you, please let me know
[01:57] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, how's laptop testing for 12.04.2 going?
[01:58] <vibhav> SergioMeneses: Thanks, will try that
[01:58] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, prime is working on that right now
[01:59] <SergioMeneses> I'm working on all cadence week staffs
[02:46] <SergioMeneses> ok I have to go out! see you later guys
[03:18] <smartboyhw> balloons, phillw ping
[03:18]  * smartboyhw tries to see if they are here
[04:15]  * balloons yawns
[04:15] <balloons> smartboyhw, I'm out
[04:15] <balloons> but you've got 1 min to ping me back before I go :-)
[05:03] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, just to correct something from your session, testdrive isn't a VM
[05:36] <pitti> Good morning
[05:37] <pitti> balloons: sure, one can have autopkgtests for autopkgtest, this would actually be rather useful :)
[05:38] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, it uses KVM or Virtualbox I know
[05:38] <Noskcaj> or paralells, but it's just a gui  for Zsync, essentially
[05:39] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, yep. I
[05:39] <smartboyhw> I don't seriously know how to use parallels:P
[05:39] <Noskcaj> neither, i think it's just in there for decoration
[05:39] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, BTW go and help test images?:P
[05:40] <Noskcaj> i am right now, i've found two new bugs today
[05:40] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, which image?
[05:40] <smartboyhw> and which two new bugs?
[05:40] <Noskcaj> ubuntu i386 manual
[05:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, PING (still 'ere)?
[05:41] <smartboyhw> I'm testing Xubuntu alternates
[05:41] <smartboyhw> Damn I lost balloons
[05:41] <Noskcaj> bug 1123798 and bug 1124523, i think they are related
[05:42] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, OK
[06:55] <smartboyhw> PLEASE HELP TO TEST 12.04.2 IMAGES :P
[06:56] <deegee_1> smartboyhw: hi, can  i do the testing in a KVM?
[06:57] <smartboyhw> deegee_1, of course!
[06:57] <smartboyhw> deegee_1, ah you are plustwo
[06:57] <deegee_1> thank you. will do. :-) yes
[07:44] <jibel> good morning
[07:45] <smartboyhw> Good afternoon
[07:46] <pitti> bonjour jibel
[07:46] <jibel> Bonjour pitti
[07:47] <pitti> bah, more and more gnome modules fail now
[07:47] <pitti> jibel: can you remember anything significant that changed yesterday?
[07:50] <jibel> pitti, I changed the build policy to always rebuild when asked and fix the problem we had with colord not building.
[07:52] <havryliuk> hello
[07:53] <pitti> jibel: that sounds fine; I even reverted the no_proxy= setting, but that wasn't it either
[07:53] <havryliuk> could anyone give a hand with first steps with autopilot?
[07:53] <pitti> jibel: I rebooted the VM this morning FYI, just in case
[07:54] <havryliuk> i am getting an error, i think i shouldn't be
[07:55] <havryliuk> *back in about 3 hrs* ;)
[07:55] <dholbach> good morning
[07:55] <pitti> bonjour dholbach
[07:56] <dholbach> salut pitti
[07:56]  * smartboyhw wonders if he should say hey to dholbach again, considering that he had done so in #ubuntu-community-team
[07:56] <smartboyhw> LOL
[07:56]  * dholbach hugs smartboyhw
[07:56]  * smartboyhw hugs dholbach 
[07:57] <smartboyhw> :P
[08:01] <smartboyhw> WT I became third in testing results of Precise 12.04.2!?
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Good that I'm hell far from second (psivaa, 91)
[08:10] <pitti> jibel: ok, I did a git pull in jhbuild yesterday, that probably updated some components, like ibus
[08:10] <pitti> jibel: and I'm filing bugs for the real regressions
[08:11] <pitti> jibel: we should probably git pull there every day, or even every run?
[08:13] <jibel> pitti, I thought doing that once a day. the connection to git is really slow
[08:14] <Noskcaj> while all you are on 12.04.2, three new bugs have came up in 12.10
[08:15] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, 12.10!?
[08:15] <Noskcaj> oops, 13.04. lol smartboyhw
[08:15] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, LOL
[08:15] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, looking
[08:15] <Noskcaj> 12.10 is just steam bugs
[08:16] <smartboyhw> The biggest problem is Bug 1087409
[08:16] <Noskcaj> yeah, i agree. i found that one :)
[08:18] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, good that it doesn't affect the release much
[08:18] <Noskcaj> yeah
[08:19] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, can you also do the Kubuntu 12.04.2 Alternate i386? ISO?
[08:20] <Noskcaj> i guess, but probably not till tomorrow, i will try
[08:20] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, by tomorrow it would be released:P
[08:20] <Noskcaj> tomorrow in australia?
[08:21] <Noskcaj> i'm downloading it now, i will try
[08:21] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, yep
[08:21] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, what time is it for you? (Local time)
[08:21] <Noskcaj> 7:20 pm, i have to have my PC off at 8
[08:22] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, the release probably would happen at 2AM (Your australian time)
[08:22] <Noskcaj> i'm having to download the image from scratch so it might not get down in time :(
[08:22] <Noskcaj> in that case, i can't
[08:23] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, OK. I think Kubuntu has many testers
[08:23] <Noskcaj> any idea if bug 1066225 was fixed for 12.04.2?
[08:23] <Noskcaj> thanks ubot, i have a reward for you :)
[08:24] <Noskcaj> !botfood
[08:24] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, NO.
[08:24] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, shame
[08:24] <Noskcaj> !botsnack
[08:24] <Noskcaj> that was it.
[08:24] <smartboyhw> I remembered it still being here when I tested few das ago
[08:24] <smartboyhw> Not even sure if it is Raring
[08:24] <Noskcaj> it is
[09:26] <xnox> the above bug is in kubuntu installer only and it was attempted to fix a few times now.
[09:27] <smartboyhw> xnox, what do you mean?
[09:27] <smartboyhw> xnox, of course we know it is in Kubuntu installer only:P
[09:30] <xnox> it has been flipped to fix released twice now, but it's still not fixed.
[09:34] <smartboyhw> What? :O
[10:26] <smartboyhw> jibel, pitti is there a team channel for the UTAH guys?
[10:27] <smartboyhw> Got someone asking in here
[10:27] <smartboyhw> #kubuntu-devel
[10:27] <shadeslayer> hi
[10:28] <shadeslayer> yeah, so, I'd like to get some info on how we can use UTAH for upgrade/install tests in Kubuntu
[10:28] <shadeslayer> would be nice to get this automated :)
[10:29] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, Yeah!!!!!!!!
[10:29] <smartboyhw> lol
[10:29] <shadeslayer> :)
[10:31] <havryliuk> hello people!
[10:32] <havryliuk> i had that trouble running sample helloworld test with autopilot
[10:32] <havryliuk> could anyone advise?
[10:32] <smartboyhw> havryliuk, how come?
[10:32] <smartboyhw> What trouble!?
[10:33] <havryliuk> ImportError: No module named helloworld
[10:33] <havryliuk> i know this is something basic but can't figure out
[10:33] <smartboyhw> havryliuk, which command did you run?
[10:33] <havryliuk> there is folder named "helloworld" from where i run this
[10:33] <havryliuk> autopilot list helloworld
[10:33] <havryliuk> or "run"
[10:34] <havryliuk> both
[10:34] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[10:34] <havryliuk> the reason might be
[10:34] <havryliuk> autopilot lies in one place and this sample folder autopilot-walkthrough in another
[10:34] <havryliuk> ?
[10:38] <pitti> smartboyhw: not that I know of; here is probably okay?
[10:38] <pitti> jcollado: ^
[10:38] <smartboyhw> pitti, LOL
[10:38] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, ^
[10:39] <shadeslayer> pitti: ah, okay, I'm trying to search how I can setup automated testing for Kubuntu
[10:39] <shadeslayer> could use some pointers :)
[10:42] <jcollado> shadeslayer: Let me see. I think there's a jenkins job already for ubuntu, so you could use that as a guideline for kubuntu.
[10:43] <shadeslayer> oh, awesome
[10:43] <shadeslayer> it'd be awesome to not have to do this manually everytime :P
[10:43] <shadeslayer> this => upgrade and install testing
[10:46] <jcollado> shadeslayer: Um, the job isn't really using UTAH, but auto-upgrade-tester.
[10:47] <shadeslayer> hm
[10:47] <shadeslayer> would it be possible to setup a job like that for Kubuntu?
[10:47] <jcollado> shadeslayer: I'm not familiar with it, but it looks like that you need: https://launchpad.net/auto-upgrade-testing
[10:47] <shadeslayer> on existing hardware
[10:47] <shadeslayer> thx
[10:48] <jcollado> jibel, you registered the project in launchpad, could you add more information for shadeslayer?
[10:49] <jcollado> shadeslayer: According to the description "Automated testing of release upgrades of Ubuntu and derivatives", so you should be able to use for kubuntu.
[10:50] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[10:50] <shadeslayer> README points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/UpgradeTestingSetup
[10:50] <shadeslayer> so having a look at that
[11:20] <jibel> shadeslayer, it's fairly easy to setup, the major issue is that it relies on vmbuilder to build the base image which doesn't work really well with quantal
[11:21] <jibel> the LXC backend is a good alternative
[11:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:22] <jibel> shadeslayer, in auto-upgrade-testing/share/profiles/kubuntu there is a default profile for kubuntu
[11:23] <shadeslayer> awesome
[11:26] <shadeslayer> I have a fairly powerful precise host
[11:27] <shadeslayer> would that be fine for setting up auto-upgrade-tester?
[11:29] <jibel> shadeslayer, depends what powerful means, the main resource you need is IOs
[11:29] <jibel> with enough memory you could run the upgrade in memory
[11:31] <shadeslayer> 8 GB of RAM :D
[11:31] <shadeslayer> quad core machine
[11:31] <shadeslayer> it's a beast :P
[11:31] <shadeslayer> I ran ISO builds in ram, untill I automated that stuff :P
[11:31] <shadeslayer> at which point it was pointless to do in ram builds because I planned on scheduling the builds at a time when I was sleeping ;)
[12:23] <smartboyhw> phillw, ping
[13:08] <smartboyhw> balloons, phillw PING
[13:43] <smartboyhw> Hey cielak
[13:46] <cjwatson> Hi - Ubuntu DVD testing for 12.04.2 is rather lacking, if anyone has time for that
[13:46] <ssbob> Question about running VMs off of raring (full install), should I use the vbox installer for 12.10 or is there a better option?
[13:53] <cielak> hello smartboyhw
[13:53] <smartboyhw> cielak, hello
[13:56] <smartboyhw> balloons, phillw PING you said you will be here to help submit test results>>>>>
[14:05] <ssbob> I think they are hiding from you smartboyhw
[14:05] <smartboyhw> ssbob, why?
[14:05] <ssbob> I don't know, just joking about
[15:25] <balloons> evening smartboyhw
[15:33] <cprofitt> hey balloons
[15:34] <smartboyhw> balloons, you said you will be here helping to submit test results and you didn't
[15:35] <balloons> smartboyhw, indeed, I got my hours crossed.. I just took at look at my calendar :-(
[15:36] <smartboyhw> balloons, harrumph
[15:36] <smartboyhw> balloons, I broke my record in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/testers "Precise 12.04.2"
[15:36] <balloons> smartboyhw, I'm glad you were about
[15:36] <balloons> nice!
[15:38] <smartboyhw> phillw also didn't come:(
[15:38] <SergioMeneses> morningª
[15:40] <balloons> that said, did you see the new videos smartboyhw ?
[15:41] <smartboyhw> balloons, not yet will catch up tmr
[15:41] <balloons> smartboyhw, ahh.. no worries
[15:41] <balloons> I'll post about them today, but they should help.. I redid the stuff I showed on the livestream in a quick video.. one you can actually see :-)
[15:41] <ssbob> balloons, I watched them this morning. Clear and understandable.
[15:42] <balloons> good, glad to hear it
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> balloons, did you publish new videos?
[15:42] <balloons> youtube.com/qualitybecomesyou
[15:43] <SergioMeneses> :O
[15:43] <balloons> I spent yesterday afternoon sapping my upload bandwidth :-)
[15:43] <smartboyhw> :O
[15:43] <SergioMeneses> balloons, great!
[15:45] <smartboyhw> Good night
[15:45] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, good night
[15:45] <balloons> good night
[15:46]  * balloons just found 2 bugs :-)
[15:46] <fully_human> So, it's hug day...
[15:47] <SergioMeneses> balloons, o0 where?
[15:47] <balloons> fully_human, hello!
[15:48] <fully_human> Hello, balloons .
[15:48] <balloons> eog, and the already reported whoopsie crash
[15:48]  * SergioMeneses is testing the daily-iso
[15:48] <balloons> fully_human, so no one could reproduce your autopilot bug
[15:48] <fully_human> Yeah, I read. :-(
[15:48] <fully_human> That's okay.
[15:50] <balloons> well, you been able to figure things out or ?
[15:50] <fully_human> Yeah, I needed to use another branch.
[15:51] <fully_human> Also I needed to run autopilot in 13.04.
[15:51] <fully_human> I suppose that's where we REALLY need to test. :)
[15:51] <balloons> fully_human, indeed ;-)
[16:17] <cjwatson> tgm4883: (et al) Any news on Mythbuntu 12.04.2 testing?
[16:19] <tgm4883> cjohnston, I'm going to test them in a bit. superm1 had us test a few days ago, so I'll admit I'm a bit confused as to why I'm testing again
[16:20] <cjwatson> three letters then tab
[16:20] <cjwatson> tgm4883: Because we had to respin
[16:20] <smartboyhw> tgm4883, congrats same three letter tab error
[16:20] <cjwatson> Mostly X problems
[16:20] <cjwatson> If you've tested recently, just smoke testing will be fine
[16:21] <cjwatson> Note I have told the web team that I'm going to release between 20 minutes ago and 40 minutes from now
[16:21] <cjwatson> So getting a bit itchy :)
[16:21] <tgm4883> testing amd64 now
[16:21] <cjwatson> Thanks
[16:26] <balloons> :-)
[16:36] <tgm4883> cjwatson, looks good
[16:37] <cjwatson> Ah good; shall I sign off on it?  I haven't seen superm1 around
[16:38] <cjwatson> tgm4883: Also, are you planning to make an announcement?
[16:38] <cjwatson> tgm4883: If so it would be nice to have the URL so I can link it from the main one
[16:38] <tgm4883> cjwatson, I don't think we usually do announcements for point releases
[16:38] <tgm4883> let me check
[16:39] <tgm4883> ah, yea we do
[16:39] <tgm4883> cjwatson, sec
[16:48] <tgm4883> cjwatson, http://www.mythbuntu.org/home/news/12042released
[16:48] <tgm4883> cjwatson, yea you can sign off on it
[16:49] <cjwatson> tgm4883: Thanks
[18:14] <SergioMeneses> is only me or someone has the same issue with the daily-iso? http://people.ubuntu.com/~sergiomeneses/share/timezone.png
[18:18] <balloons> SergioMeneses, oww
[18:18] <balloons> no, I was going to say something else actually
[18:18] <balloons> ssbob found a bug where it was setting your tz improperly
[18:18] <SergioMeneses> I cant pick out my country xD
[18:21] <SergioMeneses> balloons, is it a new bug?
[18:21] <balloons> SergioMeneses, I believe so
[18:21] <balloons> his was post-install
[18:22] <SergioMeneses> balloons, all slides are in this form http://people.ubuntu.com/~sergiomeneses/share/slides.png
[18:22] <balloons> SergioMeneses, probably something with qemu eh?
[18:23] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I think so
[18:23] <balloons> does this happen if you boot into a live session, and then select install ubuntu on the desktop?
[18:23] <SergioMeneses> Im looking for a bug like this
[18:23] <SergioMeneses> balloons, yes, it does
[18:24] <balloons> so both booting straight into the installer, and launching the installer from the desktop exhibit the same issue?
[18:25] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I have to check it, give a minute
[18:26] <balloons> So when a few more folks are around, I'd like to chat about ubuntu global jam with everyone
[18:26] <SergioMeneses> balloons, perfect! you can organice a meeting in this channel
[18:27] <balloons> impromptu meeting, heh
[18:28] <SergioMeneses> balloons, xD
[18:28] <SergioMeneses> balloons, when? today?
[18:29] <balloons> yes, it another hour or two when the eu folks arrive
[18:29] <balloons> if not, then well, it will all go in an email anyway
[18:29] <balloons> basically as a team I'd like us to drive testing events during the global jam
[18:30] <balloons> so we need to put together materials to make sure all the loco and other jam teams have what they need to prepare
[18:30] <SergioMeneses> ok, keep logs because I have to go out soon =/
[18:31] <balloons> SergioMeneses, well you and I can chat about it now then.
[18:31] <balloons> So, are you planning on doing anything for ubuntu global jam? got a loco?
[18:31] <balloons> perhaps you can help promote it among the spanish speaking community, etc
[18:32] <SergioMeneses> balloons, with my LoCo = ubuntu-co... maybe an hangout
[18:33] <SergioMeneses> I can write something in Spanish and share ir in the planet and the mailing lists
[18:34] <balloons> SergioMeneses, I'm working on molding this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing
[18:34] <ssbob> balloons, I am lurking. I may not respond right away, busy day at work :(
[18:35] <balloons> essentially, I'd like to give folks who are jamming the option of contributing testcases (manual, autopilot, autopkg) and results (hardware, image, package)
[18:35] <balloons> so I'll put into place the milestones and tests for all those, and we need to put together a nice summary document on that wiki page that provides help for people running the event, and links for each type of contribution
[18:38] <balloons> Noskcaj, hello
[18:38]  * balloons feels like he's going to get to report his spiel a few times today
[18:38] <Noskcaj> hey balloons
[18:38] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sounds pretty well! I think I can put some information about testing on laptops
[18:39] <balloons> Noskcaj, we're talking about helping loco's and other jammers during the ubuntu global jam be able to jam with testing stuff
[18:40] <Noskcaj> ok
[18:40] <balloons> essentially, I'd like to give folks who are jamming the option of contributing testcases (manual, autopilot, autopkg) and results (hardware, image, package). so I'll put into place the milestones and tests for all those, and we need to put together a nice summary document on that wiki page that provides help for people running the event, and links for each type of contribution. The first pieces are in place on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.
[18:40] <balloons> com/Jams/Testing
[18:40] <Noskcaj> good idea
[18:40] <balloons> So, do you have any plans for the jam? Got a loco or heading to a jam party?
[18:42] <SergioMeneses> balloons, you can add links to your videos too
[18:43] <Noskcaj> nope
[18:43] <balloons> Yes, indeed. That page is intended for the host of the session, so we want to make sure they have everything they need to run it.. including links to resources for the attendees
[18:50] <SergioMeneses> balloons, :O the issue is with qemu, Im using vobx and everything works
[18:53] <balloons> ahh.. perfect to not it
[18:53] <balloons> *note it
[18:57] <cjwatson> SergioMeneses: Yeah, it's a problem with qemu and llvmpipe 3D emulation I think
[18:57] <cjwatson> But I don't know the details
[18:57] <cjwatson> We started seeing it when we switched to Unity 3D
[18:58] <cjwatson> (i.e. rather than using 2D when native 3D wasn't available)
[18:58] <balloons> right, no more 2d fallback
[18:59] <SergioMeneses> cjwatson, :o prefect! thanks for your help
[19:09] <SergioMeneses> cjwatson, is there a bug about qemu issue?
[19:12] <SergioMeneses> balloons, you can share my autopilot video in your channel
[19:12] <balloons> SergioMeneses, awesome, I'll do that
[19:14] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I'm going to do some videos about testcases for the bugjam :)
[19:22] <balloons> excellent
[19:23] <SergioMeneses> ok I have to go, I'll test alsa, empathy and nautilus at night
[19:23] <balloons> SergioMeneses, excellent.. thanks so much for your help. Enjoy your evening
[19:24] <SergioMeneses> balloons, Noskcaj cjwatson take care!
[19:50] <ssbob> hey balloons, question on vbox. Does the 12.10 version of vbox work on on 13.04?
[19:50] <ssbob> meaning can I run 13.04 as host and have vbox properly work?
[19:50] <balloons> ssbob, older version still work sure
[19:50] <ssbob> cool
[19:50] <balloons> ssbob, you confused me a bit.. but I run raring.. and vbox 4.2
[19:50] <ssbob> I know someone mentioned something else the other day, but I don't recall what it was. That and vbox is really easy.
[19:51] <ssbob> k thanks balloons
[19:51] <balloons> ssbob, yes testdrive has a bug with launching vbox virtual machines automagically on vbox 4.2
[19:51] <balloons> however it's been fixed and is being rolled out :-)
[19:51] <ssbob> yeah I watched that in your video
[19:52] <ssbob> found an old dual core desktop in my closet of forgotten computers ... seems to run raring pretty good with only 4gb of RAM
[19:52] <balloons> sweet
[19:52] <balloons> perfect test setup
[20:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, 12.04.2 is released!
[20:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello!
[20:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hello
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, couldn't finish my laptop testing :( and 12.04.2 is released :D
[20:18] <balloons> Letozaf_, :-(
[20:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was too slow this time :P
[20:25] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, Hello!
[20:25] <Noskcaj> hey Letozaf_
[20:25] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, do you still need bug #1124523 to be confirmed ?
[20:26] <Noskcaj> if possible, it affects xubuntu as well
[20:26] <Noskcaj> it does affect i386
[20:27] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, ok I'm still downloading i386 ISO but I will try the amd64 on my laptop now
[20:27] <balloons> Letozaf_, so earlier we were chatting about ubuntu global jam
[20:27] <balloons> do you have any plans for it?
[20:27] <phillw> twiddles thumbs whilst my lubuntu 12.04 updates the new .2 stuff......
[20:28] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing
[20:28] <Letozaf_> balloons, well I read the mail about it... if it was a mail, well I read about it somewhere
[20:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, well I can see If I can organize something, I have to talk to some friends first
[20:29] <balloons> I'd like to put together some nice stuff on that page to help people organize events
[20:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, good idea
[20:29] <balloons> it fails in with our normal cadence week, so I plan to make it a big deal
[20:30] <balloons> we'll make cadence week 7 part of global jam
[20:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, sounds a good idea
[20:30]  * balloons copy/pastes
[20:30] <balloons> essentially, I'd like to give folks who are jamming the option of contributing testcases (manual, autopilot, autopkg) and results (hardware, image, package). so I'll put into place the milestones and tests for all those, and we need to put together a nice summary document on that wiki page that provides help for people running the event, and links for each type of contribution.
[20:32] <Letozaf_> balloons, I could try to do something for autopilot testing, showing how to do it so to get someone involved
[20:33] <balloons> Letozaf_, I'm working on a vid for it, much like the manual vid to go with the wiki page
[20:33] <balloons> should be up by then.. so with those two things, should be well prepared
[20:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes good!
[20:35] <Letozaf_> Letozaf_, I just sent  a friend of mine a mail, let's see what he says and if he will help me organize something
[20:36] <balloons> Letozaf_, excellent
[20:47] <phillw> balloons: re: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing#Requirements maybe point to the classroom sessions? (I've also now updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3#Classroom_Session_3 in readiness for the postponed VBox session).
[20:47] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, I have just booted today's Raring Ubuntu Desktop amd64 ISO on my laptop and Ubiquity asks me if I want to "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
[20:47] <balloons> Letozaf_, Noskcaj ^^ yay
[20:47] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, sorry I will try the i386 ISO in a while
[20:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D
[20:48] <balloons> phillw, I'm making some edits at the moment, but good idea..
[20:49] <Noskcaj> Letozaf_, that's a suprise.
[20:50] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, I will try the amd64 ISO on virtualbox now, let's see what happens
[20:50] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:53] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, it happened in Virtual box it went strait to live session
[20:53] <Noskcaj> Letozaf_, interesting, could you add that to the bug?
[20:53] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, yep
[21:08] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, balloons done, if you want to take a look at what happened to me.
[21:08] <Letozaf_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1124523
[21:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, please confirm the bug then
[21:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[21:12] <balloons> that will put it in front of xnox's eyeballs
[21:13] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, the i386 ISO boots fine on Virtualbox
[21:13] <phillw> balloons: have you any further on being able to query the iso tracker for what ISO's have been tested, and for what over a time scale? The last time we chatted, you thought that there was a report available but that we 'mere mortals' :P could not access.
[21:14] <Noskcaj> Letozaf_, strange
[21:14] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, yes
[21:14] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, I will try to boot it again, never know
[21:14] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, you know what, I booted the i386 ISO on a 64bit VM
[21:14] <Noskcaj> ok,i have to go to school now, bye
[21:15] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj_afk, bye
[21:16] <balloons> phillw, bleh.. remind me of what's up
[21:18] <phillw> balloons: During a cadence cycle, it is not possible to view which tests have been carried out on which iso. All data is reset each spin, although bug's are still carried over...
[21:18] <phillw> you mentioned another tab that you can see, but we cannot.
[21:19] <balloons> phillw, you can't view history
[21:19] <balloons> is that it?
[21:20] <phillw> The only filters we have is flavor, tested, partial, untested. But no way to put a date range in.
[21:21] <phillw> so, yeah, I guess, it is history that is missing. As I cannot view it, I can't say :)
[21:22] <balloons> phillw, you know what would be best for this
[21:22] <balloons> is it documented nicely in here yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website
[21:24] <phillw> can you post a screen shot of what you can access? That link is a page of all bugs....
[21:26] <phillw> the nearest I can find to issues with filters is bug 1079583
[21:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, about the previous bug
[21:27] <balloons> phillw, http://imgur.com/OAGbsNp
[21:28] <balloons> Letozaf_, which bug?
[21:28] <balloons> phillw, let's get one filed for this
[21:28] <balloons> clear concise description of what's wrong and needed
[21:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, bug #1124523
[21:30] <balloons> Letozaf_, ahh yes.. what's up?
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, well it's quite weired
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, I booted the VM with the i386 ISO and everything was ok
[21:30] <balloons> right
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, so I rebooted it with the amd64 ISO
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, and it booted correclty :(
[21:31] <balloons> so just the 386 iso doesn't work properly?
[21:31] <balloons> are both the amd64 and 386 the same date?
[21:31] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes same date, it's the amd64 that did not work first
[21:31] <phillw> balloons: I think it would be better to ask stgraber for a short meeting to discuss what is wanted, and him be able to say what is possible. I am familiar with what 'users' want and what 'Devs' can do :)
[21:32] <balloons> phillw, yes, but let me know what I can do to help you.. I'm confused by what you need / can't see
[21:32] <balloons> and stgraber will be too.. a good bug would go a long way
[21:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, I'm not sure xnox will be able to reproduce it
[21:34] <balloons> Letozaf_, do what you can to pinpoint it
[21:34] <balloons> I think I was able to confirm on the amd64 iso
[21:34] <balloons> but I haven't tried today
[21:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[21:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, I have to go now, but I will work on it tomorrow
[21:35] <balloons> great
[21:36] <Letozaf_> balloons, 'night
[21:36] <balloons> Letozaf_, night :-)
[21:59] <phillw> balloons: you have mail, I hope it makes sense!
[21:59] <balloons> phillw, awesome
[21:59] <balloons> in a moment, I'll have the global jam page for you to look at
[22:01] <phillw> good, I'm just zsyncing up my AMD64 ubuntu server image to test out, then grabbing the lubuntu AMD64 alternate. I really hate being on slow b/band speed... I can test lots of things in virt-manager, the weakest link is my living in the countryside with a slowwww speed :(
[22:05] <balloons> k, have a look
[22:05] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing
[22:13] <phillw> balloons: looking good :D
[22:14] <balloons> one small tweak
[22:15] <balloons> k, refresh it and see the difference
[22:15] <balloons> basically I just made sure the content is ordered properly and the ToC works now :-)
[22:18] <phillw> Ahh, I also just ordered the content :D
[22:19] <phillw> It held, unless you made the same edit :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing#Testing_Descriptions
[22:21] <phillw> is it worth putting https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount in as a hyperlink to "Requirements --> Launchpad/Ubuntu SSO account"?
[22:22] <phillw> I can hear Lyz's instruction of KISS in the back of my head :D
[22:29] <balloons> yes
[22:29] <balloons> you care to edit it in?
[22:30] <balloons> also add the anchor link here: "See the testing descriptions on the second half of this pag"
[22:31] <balloons> and I like it.. we'll promote it soon
[22:37] <balloons> done
[22:40] <phillw> let me re-try, I was getting edit conflicts, even though there was no advertised edit lock on the page....
[22:46] <balloons> I did some stuff
[22:46] <balloons> check first
[22:50] <phillw> balloons: I've put the requirement of LP account and an ISO just once, near the top. It reads okay to me, please check that I've not messed anything else up!
[22:50] <balloons> phillw, excellent
[22:52] <phillw> balloons: also, the VBox link is quite old!
[22:53] <balloons> lol
[22:53] <phillw> sigh,, as is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[22:54] <balloons> well
[22:54] <balloons> update it
[22:54] <balloons> i mean the link
[22:54] <phillw> when does need to go out by?
[22:54] <phillw> I have a method to get and install VBox 4.2 and the extras package, but it will break test-drive :'(
[22:55] <phillw> bug 1098080
[22:56] <phillw> as to why they hard coded in the version of VBox into the code is really beyond me!
[22:57] <balloons> lol
[22:57] <balloons> i mean, just update the link out the best link fornow
[22:58] <phillw> let me have a "play" with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3#Virtual_Box and put something together that uses 4.1 in simple terms.
[23:18]  * SergioMenesesTes is testing empathy
[23:19] <SergioMeneses> SergioMenesesTes, pong
[23:20]  * SergioMeneses looks like crazy people
[23:24] <phillw> SergioMeneses: balloons: can you check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3#Virtual_Box and see if the new page for 4.1 also makes sense?
[23:25] <SergioMeneses> phillw, \o
[23:25] <SergioMeneses> let me check it now :D
[23:26] <SergioMeneses> phillw, virtualbox section only?
[23:27] <phillw> SergioMeneses: yes, and I've just read that I cannot guarantee Synaptic to be installed.... back to CLI :D
[23:28] <SergioMeneses> phillw, it is short and clear! perfect from my point of view
[23:28] <SergioMeneses> btw all links works
[23:28] <balloons> why the ext pack?
[23:28] <SergioMeneses> balloons, you need it to use usb ports
[23:29] <phillw> balloons: well, if you have a usb mouse you'll quicky find out!
[23:29] <SergioMeneses> phillw, too
[23:30] <phillw> pesronally, I'd drop VBox and just use virt-manager which is 100% GPL... but, meh!
[23:30] <balloons> phillw, I use ose with a usb mouse and keyboard
[23:31] <balloons> honestly the gpl version works fine.. regardless
[23:31] <SergioMeneses> hey balloons  I have a comment to share with you master! Im testing nautilus but I think the testcase is a little.... rare, if you follow the sentence: Type touch "$HOME/Templates/Empty Document.txt"  it doesnt work, I think it must be clearer
[23:31] <balloons> SergioMeneses, you know how to fix any weird wordings, etc
[23:31] <phillw> balloons: also it makes the capture of the mouse pointer a little easier to release :)
[23:31] <balloons> :-)
[23:32] <balloons> phillw, i guess I was saying your correct in that you can install it but don't HAVE to
[23:32] <phillw> it is no real difference in licensing to what we have for restricted-extras.
[23:32] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sure, i do but I wanted to share it with you first
[23:33] <phillw> SergioMeneses: if you find an easily squashed bug... get it squashed :D
[23:34] <SergioMeneses>  \o/
[23:34] <balloons> SergioMeneses, certainly
[23:34] <balloons> I agree the wording is a bit funny
[23:34] <balloons> glad to see a merge request
[23:36] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I'll work on it!  I'm finishing all tests for this week
[23:37] <balloons> SergioMeneses, :-) ty!
[23:37] <SergioMeneses> btw cprofitt  I think the second template for UF wiki is the winner :)
[23:39] <phillw> balloons: does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3/Virtual_Box_4.1 meat with your 'recommended' approval?
[23:39] <phillw> s/meat/meet
[23:39] <phillw> SergioMeneses: that is a shame, I preferred the 1st, but it does not follow 'standards' :/
[23:40] <balloons> phillw, fine with me
[23:41] <SergioMeneses> phillw, those icons are more expressive
[23:50] <phillw> balloons: then the link for installing virtual box for the Jam is okay? I've set it to be as low on prior knowledge as I realistically can. I am not going to re-write the exiting VBox pages, as there are some pretty important changes in VBox 4.2 - I will update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox once 4.2 is in the repos.
[23:58] <SergioMeneses> balloons, phillw https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/newstep2