| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === emma_ is now known as em | ||
| === emma_ is now known as em | ||
| === em is now known as emma | ||
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| knightwise | morning | 07:32 |
|---|---|---|
| MartijnVdS | \o knightwise | 07:34 |
| knightwise | hey MartijnVdS :) how are you dude | 07:35 |
| MartijnVdS | waiting for the snow | 07:36 |
| jacobw | morning | 08:23 |
| * dwatkins looks out across the Pentlands at the blue sky | 08:23 | |
| dwatkins | no snow here, methinks | 08:23 |
| kvarley | I get 403 forbidden on my new virtual host, I've chowned the directory recursively to kevin:www-data and have run chmod. Any ideas on why it is still complaining | 08:24 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: http://buienradar.nl/ | 08:24 |
| neuro | ahhh the evil pentlands | 08:24 |
| dwatkins | in fact it must be that rare day when the cloud cover is practically non-existant in Edinburgh | 08:24 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: DirectoryIndex not allowed? | 08:24 |
| dwatkins | neuro: they're evil? do they eat babies? | 08:24 |
| neuro | um, yes? | 08:24 |
| jacobw | kvarley: it's probably the virtual host, as MartijnVdS says | 08:24 |
| neuro | they also creep around at night | 08:24 |
| neuro | also, they're east of me, and anything east of me is Bad | 08:25 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: I've found that (temporarily) enabling debug-level logging in Apache helps debugging things like this | 08:25 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: DIrectoryIndex flag is not in my virtual host file at all heh | 08:25 |
| neuro | anything west of me is Awesome | 08:25 |
| knightwise | MartijnVdS: are we gonna need snowtroopers by the end of the day over herre , | 08:25 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: it's _verbose_ | 08:25 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: ah I see, http://uk.weather.com/weather/today-Edinburgh-UKXX0052 - scroll down for radar and how far I am from the storm ;) | 08:25 |
| neuro | dwatkins: WHY ARE YOU WARMER THAN ME? | 08:26 |
| neuro | http://uk.weather.com/weather/today/UKXX0820:1:UK | 08:26 |
| MartijnVdS | warmer .. or HOTTER | 08:26 |
| dwatkins | neuro: the Gulf Stream | 08:26 |
| neuro | bah | 08:27 |
| dwatkins | given the choice, I'd rather be too cold than too hot - if it's too cold, I can put extra layers on. | 08:27 |
| neuro | true dat | 08:27 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: if it's too hot you can take off clothes! | 08:27 |
| jacobw | i always say that too, but still wish i was too hot when it's -10 | 08:28 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: I tend to walk around in a t-shirt all year round | 08:28 |
| dwatkins | I didn't even bother bringing my coat to work today | 08:28 |
| neuro | nutter | 08:28 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: How do I enable debug mode? :) | 08:28 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: look for "loglevel" in the docs/config .. I think you can set it per vhost.. but I'm not sure | 08:29 |
| jacobw | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#loglevel | 08:30 |
| kvarley | jacobw: Thanks I got it :) | 08:31 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: Just says permission denied to / | 08:31 |
| neuro | kvarley: do you have an index.html file in there? | 08:31 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: yes. but the error log should have a lot of info | 08:31 |
| kvarley | neuro: No but Indexes is on | 08:32 |
| kvarley | I needed to 775 my home dir | 08:33 |
| kvarley | I had the correct permissions on the root folder itself | 08:34 |
| kvarley | But it couldn't get down to the web root folder heh | 08:34 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: 711 on ~ should be enough | 08:34 |
| MartijnVdS | (rwx--x--x, or even 701 rwx-----x) | 08:34 |
| neuro | kvarley: so you're sorted now? | 08:36 |
| * jacobw procrastinates starting work proper | 08:37 | |
| * neuro has no work to start :( | 08:38 | |
| MartijnVdS | neuro: time to flood stackoverflow! | 08:38 |
| neuro | pff | 08:38 |
| jacobw | why flood stackoverflow? | 08:38 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: with good answers | 08:39 |
| jacobw | oh | 08:39 |
| kvarley | neuro: Yeah, ty & MartijnVds | 08:39 |
| neuro | MartijnVdS: serverfault, maybe | 08:39 |
| neuro | <- != developer | 08:39 |
| jacobw | !self.developer | 08:40 |
| jacobw | FTFY | 08:40 |
| neuro | err, pfff :) | 08:40 |
| neuro | i presume that's some sort of python | 08:41 |
| jacobw | ha | 08:42 |
| jacobw | 08:40:15 lubotu3 | Sorry, I don't know anything about 'self.developer' | 08:42 |
| popey | Morning | 08:50 |
| knightwise | hey popey ! | 08:51 |
| Laney | thee's this glowing orb thing in the sky | 09:02 |
| Laney | what's going on? i thought it was supposed to be grey! | 09:02 |
| MartijnVdS | Laney: Lies! | 09:02 |
| * popey has closed the blind so as not to be affected by the skyball | 09:02 | |
| MartijnVdS | ♫ Skyballlll | 09:02 |
| jonsaint | hello all. can anyone recommend a programme for converting films ready to put onto a dvd? i used to use devede but it keeps crashing | 09:36 |
| jonsaint | i cant get devede to work no more, keeps crashing, can anyone recommend an alternitive | 09:41 |
| jonsaint | anyone?? | 09:42 |
| popey | jonsaint: be good to get devede fixed.. | 09:45 |
| mungbean_ | handbrake? | 09:46 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean_: that's the other way around | 09:47 |
| mungbean_ | :S | 09:47 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: what you're looking for is called "dvd authoring" | 09:47 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: there are several tools for it available in the software centre | 09:47 |
| mungbean_ | i have 10 apps installed on my pc trying to do something simliar but never remember which one worked OK for me | 09:47 |
| jacobw | mozilla autoconfig is ridiculously complicated | 09:49 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: proxy autoconfig? | 09:50 |
| jacobw | http://mit.edu/~thunderbird/www/maintainers/autoconfig.html | 09:51 |
| jacobw | it's layers upons layers of half implemented mostly undocumented mechanisms for setting configuration values | 09:52 |
| jacobw | http://www.coinheist.com/rubik/a_regular_crossword/grid.pdf | 09:56 |
| jacobw | nice | 09:56 |
| jonsaint | anyone recommend an alternitive to devede? mine keeps crashing! | 09:58 |
| popey | jonsaint: what's wrong with devede? | 10:00 |
| popey | i.e. at what point does it crash? | 10:00 |
| jonsaint | popey, it just keeps crashing. sometimes it will go so far into it and lock up the pc, but most times it will let me add the film and when i click next it hangs a few seconds, turns grey and then closes | 10:10 |
| popey | if it completely locks up the PC then that's a worry | 10:13 |
| popey | does it not offer to send a crash report? | 10:13 |
| jonsaint | not sure, when it comes up it just asks if i want it left close or relaunch. i think there was a crash report but not sure | 10:14 |
| jonsaint | popey, so far its 26% done and all is well | 10:15 |
| popey | ah, good | 10:15 |
| popey | what version of ubuntu? | 10:15 |
| jonsaint | latest one | 10:15 |
| popey | which? 12.10? | 10:16 |
| jonsaint | yes | 10:16 |
| popey | when it crashes, do you get an option to see more details? | 10:16 |
| popey | it might not be devede crashing but something underneath | 10:16 |
| popey | be good to see what | 10:16 |
| popey | are there any crash files in /var/crash ? | 10:17 |
| jonsaint | i got terminal running as its doing it so i can see where it crashes | 10:17 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:28 |
| cliftonts | Morning all. I've got a bit of a problem I could do with some help with. I need to automate downloading of a file from a website but I need to log in first. | 10:50 |
| cliftonts | I'm guessing there must be a wget type solution but how do I provide login credentials that way? | 10:51 |
| SuperMatt | depends how the credentials are dealt with, I guess | 10:53 |
| cliftonts | Ahh, I figured it out | 10:53 |
| SuperMatt | well done | 10:53 |
| === NET||abu1e is now known as NET||abuse | ||
| cliftonts | I was leafing through the wget man page while waiting. | 10:54 |
| cliftonts | But knowing the company that runs that website I really didn't expect it to be that simple! | 10:54 |
| cliftonts | oh... it's not lol. I'm trying to download a csv but the link goes to nameoffile.asp. I've got to figure out the exact link to the csv now. | 10:56 |
| SuperMatt | tbh, if the website is doing things like that, chances are they *really* don't want you downloading stuff automatically | 10:57 |
| cliftonts | But this is a CSV provided for the purpose of automatically syncronising your website with theirs | 11:07 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 11:36 |
| brobostigon | morning davmor2 | 11:39 |
| === emma is now known as em | ||
| mungbean_ | has nayone else got really small tab/sheet names in libreoffice? | 11:45 |
| MartijnVdS | I have a very crashy LO | 11:46 |
| ali1234 | !info overlay-scrollbar raring | 12:52 |
| lubotu3 | overlay-scrollbar (source: overlay-scrollbar): Scrollbar overlay. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.16+r359daily13.02.06-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 2 kB, installed size 51 kB | 12:52 |
| cliftonts | AlanBell are you about? | 13:28 |
| penguin42 | haha - T-mobile managed to charge me 32p for 43kb of data in the couple of 2nds it took me to turn data off as my phone booted so I could figure out if my internet booster had run out | 13:38 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: just because they bill per MB, right? | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | and this is just the "1MB" price? | 13:42 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Not sure; it's a pain - they don't tell you when the booster finishes, so the only way to know for sure is to text AL to 150; so I switched on, turned off data, sent the text | 13:44 |
| kvarley | Any ideas why I can only select a maximum resolution of 1600x900 on my laptop? I've disabled my laptop screen and have enabled an external monitor that is capable of 1080p resolution. I'm running proprietary AMD drivers | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: they don't tell you? is that even allowed? | 13:44 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: I doubt it | 13:45 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: It's '6 months' so it does seem to be 6 calendar months | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | to the day? | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | I have odafone | 13:45 |
| penguin42 | looks like it - 2nd time I've done it, so wasn't sure when exactly the 1st one would finish | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | Vodafone(NL) | 13:46 |
| MartijnVdS | and I can see when every bit of my plan ends in their "My Vodafone" pages | 13:46 |
| penguin42 | yeh the T-mobile one is crap | 13:46 |
| penguin42 | but for £20 for 6 months of OKish data on my phone it's cheap | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | agreed | 13:48 |
| * MartijnVdS has to not-yet-activated pay-as-you-go SIMs, though I doubt there's much 3G near Land's End | 13:50 | |
| MartijnVdS | to? two! | 13:50 |
| Laney | twit twoo | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | only 12 weeks before I go :) | 13:53 |
| penguin42 | just to lang's end? | 13:54 |
| penguin42 | d | 13:54 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: no, that's just the middle bit | 13:54 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: I'll be driving around for a week :) | 13:54 |
| MartijnVdS | First day will be from the ferry (Harwich) to somewhere around Exmoor | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | ooh the Moors..... | 13:59 |
| penguin42 | best to make sure you're up on all appropriate moor horror films; start with Hound of the Baskervilles and American Werefolf in London | 14:00 |
| penguin42 | w | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: If you see a pub called the Slaughtered Lamb RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:00 |
| AlanBell | davmor2: the Slaughtered Lamb (may contain 40% horse) | 14:02 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: +up to | 14:04 |
| mungbean_ | "you made me miss" | 14:14 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS, penguin42: you want basil rathbones and jeremy brett hound of the baskervilles | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | davmor2: Hell yes; personally I prefer Jeremy Brett of the two | 14:16 |
| * penguin42 has the full set of Jeremy Brett's Holmes DVDs | 14:16 | |
| davmor2 | penguin42: Jeremy Brett is by far the best Holmes in older years, but I'm liking RDjnr for the young holmes | 14:18 |
| * penguin42 hasn't watched that | 14:18 | |
| penguin42 | davmor2: I must admit to liking the 1st few Cumberbach Holmes episodes; he got the character right | 14:19 |
| diplo_ | Anyone know a way of checking out with python with something like chkconfig | 16:47 |
| diplo_ | Basically writing a script that checks all our stuff is setup correctly if not either fixing it in the script or pointing to a how to if not | 16:47 |
| mgdm | Puppet? Chef? One of those | 16:47 |
| diplo_ | So basically I want to check chkconfig to make sure the programs are listed there that i need | 16:47 |
| diplo_ | Hmm, checking lot's of other stuff, but that could be an idea, rather than re-writing everything | 16:48 |
| diplo_ | Not used either yet, so guess it would be a good experiment :) | 16:48 |
| mgdm | it's probably overkill for just checking services are running, but it's good for other things too | 16:49 |
| diplo_ | Lot's of other checks tbh, I've just wrote a nice little script that checks yum repos etc | 16:51 |
| diplo_ | Puppet would probably be better, but maybe a learning curve | 16:51 |
| mgdm | it's a learning curve I've gone through recently | 16:55 |
| mgdm | moving all my dev stuff to Vagrant VMs built by Puppet | 16:55 |
| MartijnVdS | Vagrant VMs? | 16:55 |
| MartijnVdS | A person without a settled home or regular work who wanders from place to place and lives by begging. | 16:55 |
| MartijnVdS | ?? | 16:55 |
| penguin42 | 'Anyone got a spare CPU cycle and a stale few GB of ram?' | 16:56 |
| mgdm | MartijnVdS: you've not heard of Vagrant before? http://www.vagrantup.com/ | 16:56 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: "only a few kbit/second will do sir!" | 16:56 |
| Laney | 5pm and still light :D | 17:02 |
| * Laney hasn't even had to turn his lamp on yet | 17:02 | |
| diplo_ | Will look at those tomorrow, thanks mgdm | 17:03 |
| diplo_ | Looks worthwhile trying though | 17:03 |
| Laney | also | 17:05 |
| Laney | TEA RULES OK | 17:05 |
| MartijnVdS | Laney: real proper tea? | 17:07 |
| Laney | ceylon ceylon ceylon celyon | 17:07 |
| MartijnVdS | cylon tea? | 17:07 |
| ali1234 | ok this is bad | 17:09 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 17:09 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu mobile qt5 messes with the $PATH and so qt5 qmake comes before the distro qt4 qmake | 17:09 |
| ali1234 | this breaks compiling just about any qt app in ubuntu | 17:09 |
| MartijnVdS | But it's a FEATURE | 17:09 |
| ali1234 | or maybe i did that | 17:10 |
| luisms | Does anybody know if Ubuntu runs slower if it's on the "try Ubuntu" mode booted from a USB pendrive? | 17:21 |
| luisms | I refer to the 12.04 LTS version of it. | 17:22 |
| MartijnVdS | Well, USB drives are slower than hard disks | 17:22 |
| MartijnVdS | so that might slow it down | 17:22 |
| Azelphur | It'll be slower opening programs in general, but once things are up and running it should be about the same. | 17:22 |
| luisms | They fade black very often (the programs) | 17:23 |
| luisms | I believe it's Compiz way of telling that the program is not responding, right? | 17:23 |
| Azelphur | correct | 17:23 |
| Azelphur | luisms: are they trying to read/write from the disk? | 17:23 |
| luisms | I only open Firefox and Software Center | 17:24 |
| luisms | and they take a long time to load and stop responding frequently | 17:24 |
| luisms | I'm not sure what that means | 17:24 |
| penguin42 | luisms: Firefox has a nasty habit of doing slow writes | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | luisms: It especially affects slow USB sticks | 17:25 |
| luisms | Will that vanish once I install it on my HDD and install drivers, etc.? | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | yes | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | (We really should turn off the fsync's in the 'try') | 17:26 |
| luisms | Sorry, fsync? | 17:27 |
| penguin42 | luisms: Ignore me - it's just what's making firefox slow | 17:27 |
| luisms | Oh, ok... | 17:27 |
| luisms | I think I'm going to install it on the HDD, if all that issues are likely to disappear | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | yeh shoul do | 17:28 |
| luisms | Unity's effects and all that fancy graphics work ok... I believe is just the slow data transfer from the USB port, right? | 17:29 |
| penguin42 | luisms: Probably - what's the spec of the machine; RAM, CPU, case colour... | 17:30 |
| luisms | It has 3592MB od RAM | 17:32 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's fine | 17:32 |
| luisms | The CPU is a 4x AMD A8-3870 APU with Radeon Hd GRaphics | 17:32 |
| luisms | And I'm currently running Linux Mint 14 Nadia on it | 17:33 |
| penguin42 | oh yeh that should be fine | 17:33 |
| luisms | Ok, thanks, I'll install it then. | 17:33 |
| luisms | And thanks again. (: | 17:34 |
| davmor2 | popey: you got these yet https://twitter.com/GadgetPolly/status/302108199031554048/photo/1 | 17:40 |
| popey | davmor2: no, bet son would love one | 17:56 |
| directhex | WHOA NELLY | 18:10 |
| directhex | front page steam sale right now is 50-75% off all linux games | 18:11 |
| MartijnVdS | *fires up steam* | 18:11 |
| MartijnVdS | or would that be "fires up boilers" | 18:11 |
| Klettbar | woul dyou buy a rugged lapto | 18:31 |
| Klettbar | which one | 18:31 |
| Klettbar | i mena from a point of view install linux on it etc | 18:32 |
| Klettbar | would you buy a rugged laptop | 18:32 |
| popey | Klettbar: the only rugged laptop I know of is the panasonic toughbooks | 18:35 |
| directhex | generally speaking i wouldn't buy a rugged laptop as i don't like the form factor | 18:35 |
| directhex | i know dell do a ruggedized model, but the toughbook is the standard bearer | 18:35 |
| popey | directhex: OMG! buying lots of games! | 18:35 |
| directhex | popey, i just bought 8! | 18:35 |
| MartijnVdS | The only time I've seen a "rugged" laptop, was the guy who came to fix the microwave (he did inventory stuff on it) | 18:35 |
| MartijnVdS | and it had a cute little printer in the same flight case as well :) | 18:36 |
| popey | i have 7 in my basket! | 18:37 |
| * MartijnVdS bought uplink+darwinia | 18:37 | |
| MartijnVdS | for.. €2,49 | 18:38 |
| popey | nice to see companies like chillingo porting their stuff over | 18:38 |
| popey | directhex: bought 9 ☺ | 18:43 |
| popey | My Thursday night is now set. Chinese food. Wine. Games. Win! | 18:43 |
| directhex | THE SALE IS A LIE! | 18:43 |
| directhex | "save 50-75%" they say | 18:44 |
| directhex | serious sam 3, 80% off! | 18:44 |
| popey | Bastards! | 18:44 |
| davmor2 | popey: Language | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Illegitimate children! | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: better? | 18:50 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: much | 18:50 |
| Azelphur | bitcoin tried to give me a heat attack yesterday http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxGBP#rg2ztgTzm1g10zm2g25 xD | 18:51 |
| davmor2 | one must not forget ones diction on this channel | 18:51 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: a heat attack it tried burning you? | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: massive coin dumpage? | 18:51 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: dunno, something caused it haha, just after I stocked up too | 18:52 |
| Azelphur | davmor2: lol, heart attack* :P | 18:54 |
| === kevin is now known as Guest39774 | ||
| penguin42 | Azelphur: That'll have been the vast number of people converting them to pizzas | 19:42 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: not roses? or chocolate? | 19:42 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: indeed, that's one theory | 19:43 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: No, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21427505 | 19:43 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: starts to gain weight as his millions of bitcoins are spent on pizza | 19:45 |
| Azelphur | funny enough, I have a pizza on the way ;) | 19:45 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| davmor2 | Azelphur: the first lorry load is that :D | 19:49 |
| Azelphur | yea :P | 19:49 |
| directhex | there's a bitcoin store selling... ahem... adult novelties | 20:14 |
| Azelphur | there's a bitcoin store for everything now days ;) | 20:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: hitmen? | 20:22 |
| Azelphur | in all honesty, yes. | 20:22 |
| * penguin42 gulps | 20:26 | |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Oh that's where those bungling ones that got the wrong guy were booked.... | 20:26 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: just don't forget to buy him milk. | 20:26 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: probably ;) | 20:26 |
| John______ | Hi, I just noticed that 12.04.2 is available now to upgrade. Is there anyway I can upgrade from 12.04 using the terminal or the software updater, dont want to upgrade to 12.10 though | 20:45 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| John______ | I dont have enough confidence to upgrade using by using the dvd | 20:46 |
| MartijnVdS | if you have 12.04 and install all the updates, you should get 12.04.2 automatically | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | The upgrade to 12.10 should not be showing up in your update manager screen, unless you explicitly enabled it | 20:47 |
| John______ | how do I find out if I have updated | 20:47 |
| penguin42 | Although the new hardware enablement gets a bit different; a fresh 12.04.2 install gets different kernel/x than an install from 12.04.1 and upgrade | 20:47 |
| popey | as MartijnVdS says, if you installed 12.04 and updated it, congratulations, you're on 12.04.2 | 20:48 |
| John______ | ok thanks | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | it'll be interesting to see how the hardware enablement stuff works out | 20:50 |
| Azelphur | popey: don't suppose you happen to have any Valve employees you can poke regarding steam for Linux bugs? | 22:17 |
| Azelphur | I have a pretty bad one here | 22:17 |
| popey | have you filed the bug on github? | 22:18 |
| Azelphur | someone else already did, 2 months old doesn't seem to getting much luck | 22:18 |
| Azelphur | it basically surmounts to "voice chat doesn't work on a large percentage of TF2 servers" | 22:19 |
| Azelphur | (any of them that opt out of steam voice = no mic input for Linux users at all) | 22:19 |
| Azelphur | which is quite a lot of servers, because steam voice breaks a lot of things xD | 22:20 |
| Azelphur | https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/261 | 22:20 |
| Azelphur | thought perhaps you might be able to prod someone on it, being unable to use mic on TF2 for Linux seems like a bad bug :( | 22:22 |
| popey | not really, they internally manage that list | 22:26 |
| Azelphur | aww :p | 22:27 |
| penguin42 | Does 12.04.2 have the llvm gl set, or only the rest of the quantal X stack? | 23:22 |
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