=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === emma_ is now known as em === emma_ is now known as em === em is now known as emma === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [07:32] morning [07:34] \o knightwise [07:35] hey MartijnVdS :) how are you dude [07:36] waiting for the snow [08:23] morning [08:23] * dwatkins looks out across the Pentlands at the blue sky [08:23] no snow here, methinks [08:24] I get 403 forbidden on my new virtual host, I've chowned the directory recursively to kevin:www-data and have run chmod. Any ideas on why it is still complaining [08:24] dwatkins: http://buienradar.nl/ [08:24] ahhh the evil pentlands [08:24] in fact it must be that rare day when the cloud cover is practically non-existant in Edinburgh [08:24] kvarley: DirectoryIndex not allowed? [08:24] neuro: they're evil? do they eat babies? [08:24] um, yes? [08:24] kvarley: it's probably the virtual host, as MartijnVdS says [08:24] they also creep around at night [08:25] also, they're east of me, and anything east of me is Bad [08:25] kvarley: I've found that (temporarily) enabling debug-level logging in Apache helps debugging things like this [08:25] MartijnVdS: DIrectoryIndex flag is not in my virtual host file at all heh [08:25] anything west of me is Awesome [08:25] MartijnVdS: are we gonna need snowtroopers by the end of the day over herre , [08:25] kvarley: it's _verbose_ [08:25] MartijnVdS: ah I see, http://uk.weather.com/weather/today-Edinburgh-UKXX0052 - scroll down for radar and how far I am from the storm ;) [08:26] dwatkins: WHY ARE YOU WARMER THAN ME? [08:26] http://uk.weather.com/weather/today/UKXX0820:1:UK [08:26] warmer .. or HOTTER [08:26] neuro: the Gulf Stream [08:27] bah [08:27] given the choice, I'd rather be too cold than too hot - if it's too cold, I can put extra layers on. [08:27] true dat [08:27] dwatkins: if it's too hot you can take off clothes! [08:28] i always say that too, but still wish i was too hot when it's -10 [08:28] MartijnVdS: I tend to walk around in a t-shirt all year round [08:28] I didn't even bother bringing my coat to work today [08:28] nutter [08:28] MartijnVdS: How do I enable debug mode? :) [08:29] kvarley: look for "loglevel" in the docs/config .. I think you can set it per vhost.. but I'm not sure [08:30] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#loglevel [08:31] jacobw: Thanks I got it :) [08:31] MartijnVdS: Just says permission denied to / [08:31] kvarley: do you have an index.html file in there? [08:31] kvarley: yes. but the error log should have a lot of info [08:32] neuro: No but Indexes is on [08:33] I needed to 775 my home dir [08:34] I had the correct permissions on the root folder itself [08:34] But it couldn't get down to the web root folder heh [08:34] kvarley: 711 on ~ should be enough [08:34] (rwx--x--x, or even 701 rwx-----x) [08:36] kvarley: so you're sorted now? [08:37] * jacobw procrastinates starting work proper [08:38] * neuro has no work to start :( [08:38] neuro: time to flood stackoverflow! [08:38] pff [08:38] why flood stackoverflow? [08:39] jacobw: with good answers [08:39] oh [08:39] neuro: Yeah, ty & MartijnVds [08:39] MartijnVdS: serverfault, maybe [08:39] <- != developer [08:40] !self.developer [08:40] FTFY [08:40] err, pfff :) [08:41] i presume that's some sort of python [08:42] ha [08:42] 08:40:15 lubotu3 | Sorry, I don't know anything about 'self.developer' [08:50] Morning [08:51] hey popey ! [09:02] thee's this glowing orb thing in the sky [09:02] what's going on? i thought it was supposed to be grey! [09:02] Laney: Lies! [09:02] * popey has closed the blind so as not to be affected by the skyball [09:02] ♫ Skyballlll [09:36] hello all. can anyone recommend a programme for converting films ready to put onto a dvd? i used to use devede but it keeps crashing [09:41] i cant get devede to work no more, keeps crashing, can anyone recommend an alternitive [09:42] anyone?? [09:45] jonsaint: be good to get devede fixed.. [09:46] handbrake? [09:47] mungbean_: that's the other way around [09:47] :S [09:47] jonsaint: what you're looking for is called "dvd authoring" [09:47] jonsaint: there are several tools for it available in the software centre [09:47] i have 10 apps installed on my pc trying to do something simliar but never remember which one worked OK for me [09:49] mozilla autoconfig is ridiculously complicated [09:50] jacobw: proxy autoconfig? [09:51] http://mit.edu/~thunderbird/www/maintainers/autoconfig.html [09:52] it's layers upons layers of half implemented mostly undocumented mechanisms for setting configuration values [09:56] http://www.coinheist.com/rubik/a_regular_crossword/grid.pdf [09:56] nice [09:58] anyone recommend an alternitive to devede? mine keeps crashing! [10:00] jonsaint: what's wrong with devede? [10:00] i.e. at what point does it crash? [10:10] popey, it just keeps crashing. sometimes it will go so far into it and lock up the pc, but most times it will let me add the film and when i click next it hangs a few seconds, turns grey and then closes [10:13] if it completely locks up the PC then that's a worry [10:13] does it not offer to send a crash report? [10:14] not sure, when it comes up it just asks if i want it left close or relaunch. i think there was a crash report but not sure [10:15] popey, so far its 26% done and all is well [10:15] ah, good [10:15] what version of ubuntu? [10:15] latest one [10:16] which? 12.10? [10:16] yes [10:16] when it crashes, do you get an option to see more details? [10:16] it might not be devede crashing but something underneath [10:16] be good to see what [10:17] are there any crash files in /var/crash ? [10:17] i got terminal running as its doing it so i can see where it crashes [10:28] good morning everyone. [10:50] Morning all. I've got a bit of a problem I could do with some help with. I need to automate downloading of a file from a website but I need to log in first. [10:51] I'm guessing there must be a wget type solution but how do I provide login credentials that way? [10:53] depends how the credentials are dealt with, I guess [10:53] Ahh, I figured it out [10:53] well done === NET||abu1e is now known as NET||abuse [10:54] I was leafing through the wget man page while waiting. [10:54] But knowing the company that runs that website I really didn't expect it to be that simple! [10:56] oh... it's not lol. I'm trying to download a csv but the link goes to nameoffile.asp. I've got to figure out the exact link to the csv now. [10:57] tbh, if the website is doing things like that, chances are they *really* don't want you downloading stuff automatically [11:07] But this is a CSV provided for the purpose of automatically syncronising your website with theirs [11:36] Morning all [11:39] morning davmor2 === emma is now known as em [11:45] has nayone else got really small tab/sheet names in libreoffice? [11:46] I have a very crashy LO [12:52] !info overlay-scrollbar raring [12:52] overlay-scrollbar (source: overlay-scrollbar): Scrollbar overlay. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.16+r359daily13.02.06-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 2 kB, installed size 51 kB [13:28] AlanBell are you about? [13:38] haha - T-mobile managed to charge me 32p for 43kb of data in the couple of 2nds it took me to turn data off as my phone booted so I could figure out if my internet booster had run out [13:41] penguin42: just because they bill per MB, right? [13:42] and this is just the "1MB" price? [13:44] MartijnVdS: Not sure; it's a pain - they don't tell you when the booster finishes, so the only way to know for sure is to text AL to 150; so I switched on, turned off data, sent the text [13:44] Any ideas why I can only select a maximum resolution of 1600x900 on my laptop? I've disabled my laptop screen and have enabled an external monitor that is capable of 1080p resolution. I'm running proprietary AMD drivers [13:44] penguin42: they don't tell you? is that even allowed? [13:45] MartijnVdS: I doubt it [13:45] MartijnVdS: It's '6 months' so it does seem to be 6 calendar months [13:45] to the day? [13:45] I have odafone [13:45] looks like it - 2nd time I've done it, so wasn't sure when exactly the 1st one would finish [13:46] Vodafone(NL) [13:46] and I can see when every bit of my plan ends in their "My Vodafone" pages [13:46] yeh the T-mobile one is crap [13:47] but for £20 for 6 months of OKish data on my phone it's cheap [13:48] agreed [13:50] * MartijnVdS has to not-yet-activated pay-as-you-go SIMs, though I doubt there's much 3G near Land's End [13:50] to? two! [13:50] twit twoo [13:53] only 12 weeks before I go :) [13:54] just to lang's end? [13:54] d [13:54] penguin42: no, that's just the middle bit [13:54] penguin42: I'll be driving around for a week :) [13:56] First day will be from the ferry (Harwich) to somewhere around Exmoor [13:59] ooh the Moors..... [14:00] best to make sure you're up on all appropriate moor horror films; start with Hound of the Baskervilles and American Werefolf in London [14:00] w [14:00] MartijnVdS: If you see a pub called the Slaughtered Lamb RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [14:02] davmor2: the Slaughtered Lamb (may contain 40% horse) [14:04] AlanBell: +up to [14:14] "you made me miss" [14:14] MartijnVdS, penguin42: you want basil rathbones and jeremy brett hound of the baskervilles [14:16] davmor2: Hell yes; personally I prefer Jeremy Brett of the two [14:16] * penguin42 has the full set of Jeremy Brett's Holmes DVDs [14:18] penguin42: Jeremy Brett is by far the best Holmes in older years, but I'm liking RDjnr for the young holmes [14:18] * penguin42 hasn't watched that [14:19] davmor2: I must admit to liking the 1st few Cumberbach Holmes episodes; he got the character right [16:47] Anyone know a way of checking out with python with something like chkconfig [16:47] Basically writing a script that checks all our stuff is setup correctly if not either fixing it in the script or pointing to a how to if not [16:47] Puppet? Chef? One of those [16:47] So basically I want to check chkconfig to make sure the programs are listed there that i need [16:48] Hmm, checking lot's of other stuff, but that could be an idea, rather than re-writing everything [16:48] Not used either yet, so guess it would be a good experiment :) [16:49] it's probably overkill for just checking services are running, but it's good for other things too [16:51] Lot's of other checks tbh, I've just wrote a nice little script that checks yum repos etc [16:51] Puppet would probably be better, but maybe a learning curve [16:55] it's a learning curve I've gone through recently [16:55] moving all my dev stuff to Vagrant VMs built by Puppet [16:55] Vagrant VMs? [16:55] A person without a settled home or regular work who wanders from place to place and lives by begging. [16:55] ?? [16:56] 'Anyone got a spare CPU cycle and a stale few GB of ram?' [16:56] MartijnVdS: you've not heard of Vagrant before? http://www.vagrantup.com/ [16:56] penguin42: "only a few kbit/second will do sir!" [17:02] 5pm and still light :D [17:02] * Laney hasn't even had to turn his lamp on yet [17:03] Will look at those tomorrow, thanks mgdm [17:03] Looks worthwhile trying though [17:05] also [17:05] TEA RULES OK [17:07] Laney: real proper tea? [17:07] ceylon ceylon ceylon celyon [17:07] cylon tea? [17:09] ok this is bad [17:09] ? [17:09] ubuntu mobile qt5 messes with the $PATH and so qt5 qmake comes before the distro qt4 qmake [17:09] this breaks compiling just about any qt app in ubuntu [17:09] But it's a FEATURE [17:10] or maybe i did that [17:21] Does anybody know if Ubuntu runs slower if it's on the "try Ubuntu" mode booted from a USB pendrive? [17:22] I refer to the 12.04 LTS version of it. [17:22] Well, USB drives are slower than hard disks [17:22] so that might slow it down [17:22] It'll be slower opening programs in general, but once things are up and running it should be about the same. [17:23] They fade black very often (the programs) [17:23] I believe it's Compiz way of telling that the program is not responding, right? [17:23] correct [17:23] luisms: are they trying to read/write from the disk? [17:24] I only open Firefox and Software Center [17:24] and they take a long time to load and stop responding frequently [17:24] I'm not sure what that means [17:25] luisms: Firefox has a nasty habit of doing slow writes [17:25] luisms: It especially affects slow USB sticks [17:26] Will that vanish once I install it on my HDD and install drivers, etc.? [17:26] yes [17:26] (We really should turn off the fsync's in the 'try') [17:27] Sorry, fsync? [17:27] luisms: Ignore me - it's just what's making firefox slow [17:27] Oh, ok... [17:28] I think I'm going to install it on the HDD, if all that issues are likely to disappear [17:28] yeh shoul do [17:29] Unity's effects and all that fancy graphics work ok... I believe is just the slow data transfer from the USB port, right? [17:30] luisms: Probably - what's the spec of the machine; RAM, CPU, case colour... [17:32] It has 3592MB od RAM [17:32] yeh that's fine [17:32] The CPU is a 4x AMD A8-3870 APU with Radeon Hd GRaphics [17:33] And I'm currently running Linux Mint 14 Nadia on it [17:33] oh yeh that should be fine [17:33] Ok, thanks, I'll install it then. [17:34] And thanks again. (: [17:40] popey: you got these yet https://twitter.com/GadgetPolly/status/302108199031554048/photo/1 [17:56] davmor2: no, bet son would love one [18:10] WHOA NELLY [18:11] front page steam sale right now is 50-75% off all linux games [18:11] *fires up steam* [18:11] or would that be "fires up boilers" [18:31] woul dyou buy a rugged lapto [18:31] which one [18:32] i mena from a point of view install linux on it etc [18:32] would you buy a rugged laptop [18:35] Klettbar: the only rugged laptop I know of is the panasonic toughbooks [18:35] generally speaking i wouldn't buy a rugged laptop as i don't like the form factor [18:35] i know dell do a ruggedized model, but the toughbook is the standard bearer [18:35] directhex: OMG! buying lots of games! [18:35] popey, i just bought 8! [18:35] The only time I've seen a "rugged" laptop, was the guy who came to fix the microwave (he did inventory stuff on it) [18:36] and it had a cute little printer in the same flight case as well :) [18:37] i have 7 in my basket! [18:37] * MartijnVdS bought uplink+darwinia [18:38] for.. €2,49 [18:38] nice to see companies like chillingo porting their stuff over [18:43] directhex: bought 9 ☺ [18:43] My Thursday night is now set. Chinese food. Wine. Games. Win! [18:43] THE SALE IS A LIE! [18:44] "save 50-75%" they say [18:44] serious sam 3, 80% off! [18:44] Bastards! [18:46] popey: Language [18:50] Illegitimate children! [18:50] davmor2: better? [18:50] MartijnVdS: much [18:51] bitcoin tried to give me a heat attack yesterday http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxGBP#rg2ztgTzm1g10zm2g25 xD [18:51] one must not forget ones diction on this channel [18:51] Azelphur: a heat attack it tried burning you? [18:51] Azelphur: massive coin dumpage? [18:52] MartijnVdS: dunno, something caused it haha, just after I stocked up too [18:54] davmor2: lol, heart attack* :P === kevin is now known as Guest39774 [19:42] Azelphur: That'll have been the vast number of people converting them to pizzas [19:42] penguin42: not roses? or chocolate? [19:43] penguin42: indeed, that's one theory [19:43] MartijnVdS: No, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21427505 [19:45] Azelphur: starts to gain weight as his millions of bitcoins are spent on pizza [19:45] funny enough, I have a pizza on the way ;) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [19:49] Azelphur: the first lorry load is that :D [19:49] yea :P [20:14] there's a bitcoin store selling... ahem... adult novelties [20:14] there's a bitcoin store for everything now days ;) [20:22] Azelphur: hitmen? [20:22] in all honesty, yes. [20:26] * penguin42 gulps [20:26] Azelphur: Oh that's where those bungling ones that got the wrong guy were booked.... [20:26] penguin42: just don't forget to buy him milk. [20:26] penguin42: probably ;) [20:45] Hi, I just noticed that 12.04.2 is available now to upgrade. Is there anyway I can upgrade from 12.04 using the terminal or the software updater, dont want to upgrade to 12.10 though === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [20:46] I dont have enough confidence to upgrade using by using the dvd [20:47] if you have 12.04 and install all the updates, you should get 12.04.2 automatically [20:47] The upgrade to 12.10 should not be showing up in your update manager screen, unless you explicitly enabled it [20:47] how do I find out if I have updated [20:47] Although the new hardware enablement gets a bit different; a fresh 12.04.2 install gets different kernel/x than an install from 12.04.1 and upgrade [20:48] as MartijnVdS says, if you installed 12.04 and updated it, congratulations, you're on 12.04.2 [20:48] ok thanks [20:50] it'll be interesting to see how the hardware enablement stuff works out [22:17] popey: don't suppose you happen to have any Valve employees you can poke regarding steam for Linux bugs? [22:17] I have a pretty bad one here [22:18] have you filed the bug on github? [22:18] someone else already did, 2 months old doesn't seem to getting much luck [22:19] it basically surmounts to "voice chat doesn't work on a large percentage of TF2 servers" [22:19] (any of them that opt out of steam voice = no mic input for Linux users at all) [22:20] which is quite a lot of servers, because steam voice breaks a lot of things xD [22:20] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/261 [22:22] thought perhaps you might be able to prod someone on it, being unable to use mic on TF2 for Linux seems like a bad bug :( [22:26] not really, they internally manage that list [22:27] aww :p [23:22] Does 12.04.2 have the llvm gl set, or only the rest of the quantal X stack?