[10:45] <rmg51> Morning
[11:25] <JonathanD> Morning.
[13:10] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs and turkeys
[13:20] <teddy-dbear> that was strange
[13:21] <teddy-dbear> my laptop just shut down for no reason
[13:22] <teddy-dbear> I was just looking at Rhythmbox then the next thing I was looking at a blank screen
[13:22] <teddy-dbear> :P
[13:45] <InHisName> morning
[13:46] <InHisName> teddy-dbear: dead battery ?
[13:46] <teddy-dbear> nope
[13:47] <teddy-dbear> plugged in
[13:47] <InHisName> power loss,   --> dead fuse, dead PECO, dead squirel, etc.?
[13:53] <teddy-dbear> nothing like that
[13:54] <teddy-dbear> just on then off
[13:56] <ChinnoDog> overheat?
[14:07] <teddy-dbear> that's what I thought at first
[14:09] <teddy-dbear> temp seemed normal after reboot
[14:42] <ChinnoDog> Maybe it was just tired.
[15:06] <teddy-dbear> it's awake now :-D
[15:15] <mutantturkey_> so there are a couple apartments listed near here
[15:15] <mutantturkey_> http://goo.gl/maps/MpavC
[15:16] <mutantturkey_> in that 6 block radius
[15:16] <mutantturkey_> anyone ever been overthere and what thinks you?
[15:16] <mutantturkey_> prices are okay, all the philly crime maps seem to have it relatively low
[18:59] <MutantTurkey> waltman: can I get a few seconds for matlab? this one's easy
[18:59] <MutantTurkey> yaux=[0;lambda*counts];
[18:59] <MutantTurkey> lambda is a integer, counts is a vector
[18:59] <MutantTurkey> but what is the [0; part?
[19:10] <waltman> the ; is how you separate rows in a matrix
[19:10] <waltman> You know that matlab is completely interactive, right? Just try these things out and see what they do!
[19:11] <waltman> Also that ; thing is one of the first things you'll learn in any matlab tutorial.
[19:44] <MutantTurkey> ok :p
[19:45] <MutantTurkey> should just learn matlab
[19:47] <waltman> It might be a good idea, seeing as how you seem to be using it every day :)
[19:48] <waltman> maybe I should just start charging you :)
[19:55] <ChinnoDog> hehe. There is good money in that waltman.
[19:56] <MutantTurkey> matlab tutoring
[19:56] <MutantTurkey> i've seen posters for it
[19:58] <ChinnoDog> Learn Matlab and you could have a second job MutantTurkey
[19:59] <jedijf> or do the first one well
[20:01] <waltman> I could supplement my postdoc salary!
[20:01] <waltman> I could have made a ton helping kids on the most recent matlab assignment in $boss's class. :)
[20:02] <ChinnoDog> Why didn't you waltman? Easy money.
[20:08] <waltman> It might've been a little awkward, seeing as how my labmate at the next desk is TA for the class...
[20:10] <ChinnoDog> That doesn't sound awkward. That sounds ideal.
[21:05] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: I'm sorry I forgot to remind you... dell dimension lid?
[21:05] <JonathanD> ah
[21:05] <MutantTurkey> i'll try and do it sometime when you're at home
[21:05] <JonathanD> I'll look.
[21:05] <MutantTurkey> when is a good time for me to remind you?
[21:05] <JonathanD> I'll be home all day tomorrow.
[21:05] <MutantTurkey> great!
[21:05] <JonathanD> Except when I'm not.
[21:05] <MutantTurkey> heh
[21:05] <JonathanD> But I have off.
[21:06] <MutantTurkey> got it
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> drexel HR is the biggest pita of all time
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> always late with stuff, paperwork is always lost
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> it's costing me money. Not getting paid for 15 weeks causes me mental stress, looses me money and is probably illegal
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> every time i have to wait long periods to be paid is just time I could have spent investing my money
[21:48] <waltman> MutantTurkey: yeah, it is, as you kids say, teh suck
[21:50] <ChinnoDog> 15 weeks is a long time to not get paid
[21:51] <waltman> Speaking of Drexel, my boss got talked into doing "Jeopardy! Drexel Engineering Faculty Edition" next week.
[21:51] <waltman> "Faculty will square off in a battle of wits to answer freshmen engineering and general knowledge questions in a Jeopardy-style competition."
[21:52] <ChinnoDog> lol
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> waltman: is there a link for that?
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> sounds awesome
[21:53] <waltman> "Hey, new $prof, we'd like you to play Science Jeopardy during Engineers Week." "No, you don't understand. I know lots about my tiny little field, but nothing about anything else." "Excellent! It'll be funnier that way!"
[21:53] <waltman> http://www.drexel.edu/engineering/news/archive/2013/DrexeltoCelebrateNationalEngineersWeek/
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: yeah
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> waltman: that's how i see a lot of professors
[21:54] <waltman> heh
[21:54] <MutantTurkey> extremely specialized, in their field for a long time, very focused
[21:54] <MutantTurkey> which is awesome for research, for teaching maybe not so much
[21:55] <ChinnoDog> The best teachers I had at DeVry were not career teachers. They were people that worked in industry and taught on the side or after they retired.
[21:55] <waltman> There's a big variation in the teaching skills of professors.
[21:56] <MutantTurkey> not just skill
[21:56] <MutantTurkey> but interest in teaching
[21:56] <MutantTurkey> they can be student oriented, or very research oriented
[21:56] <waltman> Right, research counts for more than teaching in lots of places.
[21:56] <MutantTurkey> like drexel
[21:56] <waltman> There are some really good teachers in the CS department.
[21:56] <MutantTurkey> waltman: who do you think is good?
[21:56] <MutantTurkey> j/w haven't taken any course
[21:57] <MutantTurkey> i'd like to take gaylords sysadmin course
[21:58] <waltman> Shoukoufandeh. Johnson. Salvucci. Schmidt. Popyack.
[21:58] <waltman> Gaylord seems like he'd be a good teacher
[21:59] <MutantTurkey> popyack seems cool
[21:59] <waltman> Breen's kind of boring, but he certainly knows his stuff.
[22:00] <waltman> Mongan's really good, too
[22:00] <MutantTurkey> waltman: he admits to being boring
[22:01] <MutantTurkey> I think his phrase was "as long as you aren't the worst, drexel doesn't care"
[22:01] <waltman> I had a class with someone (no longer in the dept) who I'm pretty sure must have been the worst.
[22:02] <waltman> Shokoufandeh is an awesome teacher.
[22:03] <waltman> but what do you care? You're at Temple!
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> does Ko teach at all?
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> waltman: lol yeah
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> maybe my masters?
[22:03] <waltman> Yes, but he was on sabatical in Japan.
[22:03] <waltman> Ko's good, too.
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> His poor students... i get the feeling they are overworked
[22:04] <waltman> oh, they definitely are
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> gabe looks like he's going to fall over
[22:04] <waltman> he works them harder than anyone else in the department
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> GABE IF YOU'RE HERE I AM NOT BEING MEAN IM JUST WORRIED
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> yeah but they're also good at what they do.
[22:04] <waltman> nod
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> they go to plenty of conferences, get a lot of papers out
[22:05] <MutantTurkey> paper mill
[22:05] <waltman> yup
[22:05] <waltman> paper mill?
[22:05] <waltman> not just lots of papers, but the top conferences, too
[22:06] <MutantTurkey> you know they joke about paper mills where ungergrads can get papers written for them for money
[22:06] <MutantTurkey> they are like a scientific research mill
[22:06] <waltman> I'm still not following
[22:06] <MutantTurkey> I think gabe and steve were  in japan for a while
[22:06] <MutantTurkey> nevermind
[22:06] <waltman> I don't know what you're implying, but it sounds kind of insulting
[22:06] <MutantTurkey> hah
[22:06] <MutantTurkey> no
[22:07] <MutantTurkey> they are very efficient is what I am saying!
[22:07] <MutantTurkey> they are like a well oiled machine of churning out papers regularly and with high quality
[22:07] <MutantTurkey> that is the point
[22:07] <MutantTurkey> >.>
[22:07] <waltman> Oh, this is a new thing. Sun shining off of Crossings directly into my eyes.
[22:08] <MutantTurkey> do you face a window?
[22:08] <JonathanD> I went down in our lobby here a bit ago and the darn floor tiles blinded me.
[22:08] <MutantTurkey> wearing sunglasses in doors? Check
[22:19] <waltman> MutantTurkey: yes, sort of.
[22:19] <MutantTurkey> waltman: btw do people with masters write a thesis?
[22:19] <MutantTurkey> debating getting mine
[22:24] <waltman> MutantTurkey: yes.
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> and how long is it? a two year program?
[22:25] <waltman> I'm sure there's information about it on the department website.
[22:25] <waltman> Aren't you a freshman? Maybe you should focus on that?
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> Junior!
[22:26] <waltman> I've got to run for the train. Later.
[22:26] <MutantTurkey> good luck