[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> capoderra: Beta releases aren't for the faint of heart. They might spew their contents all over your machine. :) Seriously, though, you could wind up with a core dump, which you don't want on a "production machine."
[00:00] <yourimym1> crossing fingers ,
[00:01] <capoderra> Hey, how do you make the text red like that?
[00:01] <gilb> is it possible to install Windows for dual boot after installing Ubuntu?
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> capoderra: By typing your name.
[00:02] <genii-around> capoderra: If your name is in the text, it is highlighted for you
[00:02] <yourimym1> genii help
[00:02] <gilb> the community documentation says no
[00:02] <genii-around> yourimym1: I'm here. What is the issue?
[00:02] <gilb> I remain skeptical
[00:02] <yourimym1> am afraid i got the old problem :S
[00:03] <genii-around> yourimym1: It loads but is very slow?
[00:03] <yourimym1> desktop vanished , and open pidgin from terminal
[00:03] <capoderra> oh, is there a way to copy someone's name and paste it?
[00:03] <yourimym1> no sidebar , no top bar and no window border , with low resolution
[00:04] <otak> capoderra: just type a few letters then press tab
[00:04] <genii-around> yourimym1: Hm. Does result from: lsmod   show that nvidia is loaded somewhere?
[00:04] <Ben64> is there a way to stop arp requests from being sent out
[00:04] <capoderra> otak, thank you
[00:04] <capoderra> SonikkuAmerica, thanks for the advice
[00:06] <genii-around> yourimym1: eg: lsmod | grep nvidia            should show a result akin to: nvidia               9367980  51
[00:06] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647106/
[00:06] <Juv1228> hello, im experiencing some random lockups, about once a day now with issues like this http://pastie.org/6158513
[00:07] <Juv1228> it seems like those soft lockups happen all the time, but it only brings the system down randomly
[00:07] <yourimym1>  lsmod | grep nvidia  display nothing
[00:07] <Juv1228> i guess if it happens to hit a specific thread?
[00:07] <genii-around> yourimym1: Nvidia driver is not being loaded.
[00:07] <yourimym1> so , what should i do !
[00:08] <genii-around> yourimym1: Please pastebin result of:  apt-cache policy build-essential linux-headers-$uname -r) dkms
[00:08] <genii-around> yourimym1: Please pastebin result of: apt-cache policy build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms
[00:08] <genii-around> The second one there with the two prentheses, not the first
[00:09] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647120/
[00:10] <genii-around> yourimym1: sudo apt-get install dkms
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Gotta log out/in
[00:10] <genii-around> yourimym1: Apologies, instead: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:10] <yourimym1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[00:11] <Ben64> yourimym1: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[00:11] <yourimym1> both sudos , or one is enough !
[00:11] <Ben64> both :D
[00:11] <genii-around> Ben64: Yes, also that
[00:12] <Ben64> then after thats done, sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[00:12] <genii-around> yourimym1: eg: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[00:12] <Ben64> and you should see the driver being built
[00:12] <Ben64> genii-around: the (uname -r) stuff isn't very good
[00:13] <genii-around> Ben64: Well, it's an easier way without having to know their exact kernel
[00:13] <Ben64> no...
[00:13] <rexwin_> ifconfig -a shows eth0 with no ip address. how do i assign a class C ip address to bridged adapter for ubuntu guest in vbox
[00:13] <Ben64> it installs headers for the current kernel without doing it for any in the future
[00:14] <genii-around> Ben64: Ah, yes, apologies.
[00:14] <yourimym1> so what i should type here :)
[00:14] <Ben64> yourimym1: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[00:14] <Ben64> then, sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[00:15] <genii-around> yourimym1: What Ben64 is explaining
[00:15] <gyre008> guys what is the best way to keep Ubuntu server farm up to date ? we're talking 40-50 servers...
[00:15] <fwilson> gyre008: Canonical offers a service for that, let me check that for you
[00:15] <CavalierPrime> landscape
[00:15] <gyre008> fwilson: you mean landscape
[00:15] <gyre008> any other options ? like...ehm free :)
[00:16] <genii-around> gyre008: apt-cache with cronjobs?
[00:16] <fwilson> gyre008: :) Webmin has a cluster option, but I haven't played with it enough to know if it's exactly what you need
[00:16] <Tex_Nick> 12.12 gnome classic ... for the past couple months, the title-bar on firefox occasionally disappears ... i never seem to notice exactly when it happens or what is triggering it ... i've been restarting firefox and it always returns to a normal state ... i'm wondering if anyone has encountered the same problem ... none of my searching seems to tell the root of the problem
[00:16] <gyre008> genii-around: heh...id need something which would push security updates to the servers....
[00:16] <genii-around> fwilson: webmin is also not supported and was removed
[00:16] <yourimym1> 5 min remaining i've slow connection here :(
[00:16] <fwilson> genii-around: oh, sry about that, wasn't aware of that
[00:17] <genii-around> yourimym1: Did the dpkg-reconfigure run OK?
[00:17] <Tex_Nick> using 12.10 ^
[00:17] <genii-around> yourimym1: If so, then: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:18] <genii-around> yourimym1: If not, then pastebin the error
[00:18] <yourimym1> still the dpkg
[00:20] <C_Clear> ollo Ubuntu folks need some help in determining a problem with video since I installed 12.04
[00:20] <genii-around> gyre008: Conceivable just a sources.list with the security repos on a main box with apt-cache installed then cronjobs on each box for a scheduled update
[00:20] <tad-pole> C_Clear Be specific and maybe you will be helped.
[00:21] <C_Clear> After playing for a while the  video freezes and then goes blank. Not sure if at this point if tis a OS Problem or a hardware problem
[00:21] <welovfree> I can't install non market apps on my xperia x10 and i can't find unknown source to check it
[00:21]  * genii-around hands yourimym1 a coffee
[00:22] <welovfree> Please
[00:22] <reger> Hi, does CUPS-PDF work for ubuntu 12.04. I use it to create PDF files through CUPS (locally and as shared printer)
[00:22] <C_Clear> using a very old Dell video card that is built into the motherboarb. but at the same time didn't have any problems with past version of ubuntu. this version makes me want to go bakc to XP
[00:22] <genii-around> welovfree: I believe you want #android
[00:23] <yourimym1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms done quickly  ??
[00:23] <reger> PDF files hould end up in the user's home directory (and they did some time ago. But it is not working anymore
[00:23] <genii-around> yourimym1: Fairly quick usually. Did it ask for any user input?
[00:24] <yourimym1> nothing and goes to the next line
[00:24] <yourimym1> do i do  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:24] <genii-around> yourimym1: Thats fine then
[00:24] <genii-around> yourimym1: Yes
[00:24] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647171/
[00:24] <yourimym1> like this
[00:25] <genii-around> yourimym1: That is how it is supposed to go, yes. When it just returns back to a prompt then "no news is good news"
[00:25] <yourimym1> then i did http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647178/
[00:26] <reger> I just found it might have something to do with Apparmor. I ill look into it
[00:26] <genii-around> yourimym1: In this case, do:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[00:27] <yourimym1> oh , why !
[00:27] <genii-around> yourimym1: Because it thinks that nvidia-current is properly installed and so will not build the module unless you use the --reinstall
[00:28] <yourimym1> already runing this
[00:28] <yourimym1> done
[00:28] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647188/
[00:28] <genii-around> yourimym1: Good.
[00:28] <genii-around> Reading
[00:29] <genii-around> yourimym1: Sorry, not good.
[00:29] <yourimym1> oh
[00:30] <genii-around> yourimym1: "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed."
[00:31] <C_Clear> so any video people  in the room.  or anyone who has had a similar issue ???
[00:31] <sonOfRa> How large shoud I make the partition mounted on /var? This is a development machine, mainly java, ruby and c.
[00:32] <dr_willis> sonOfRa:  why are you even using a seperate partion for /var? how big is the rest of your ystem and hard disks?
[00:32] <sonOfRa> ~500GB are available on the drive I'm partitioning over /var and /data
[00:32] <sonOfRa> it's due to my SSD / HDD hybrid setup
[00:32] <dr_willis> i would even mess with a seperate var on a 500gb hd.
[00:33] <sonOfRa> hm
[00:33] <sonOfRa> I'm currentl mounting a 128G SSD on /
[00:33] <genii-around> yourimym1: Please do again: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[00:34] <dr_willis> you could put everything on /   then link specific directories to  the hdd if needed. but not all dir3ectorys can be linked that way. some need to be on / at boot time
[00:34] <sonOfRa> I know this is really vague, but would that be enough? I'm keeping my /home slim, and put large quantities on /data, where I would mount the HDD
[00:34] <yourimym1> what should i do know :(
[00:34] <genii-around> yourimym1: Did you just do the command i gave?
[00:35] <sonOfRa> The problem is that I can't really put the HDD on /home, because it's in a bay on the laptop, and will sometimes be replaced by an optical drive
[00:35]  * genii-around sips his coffee and contemplates the dangers of ADD
[00:35] <sonOfRa> and having /home mounted to that drive would result in having no /home when using the disk drive
[00:35] <capoderra> I'm having problems outputting sound via HDMI to my TV speakers.  I found a fix on a website, but for whatever reason, I don't have the same sound options he does.
[00:35] <yourimym1> no i had to restart
[00:35] <capoderra> http://itsfoss.com/how-to-fix-no-sound-through-hdmi-in-external-monitor-in-ubuntu/
[00:35] <capoderra> he has "mode" and I don't have it.
[00:36] <yourimym1> no genii sir pc restart , give me command
[00:37] <genii-around> yourimym1: OK. So first, please pastebin result of:  apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic
[00:38] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647214/
[00:38] <rexwin__> hi all
[00:38] <yourimym1> genii http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647214/
[00:39] <genii-around> yourimym1: Good. Now try again: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current      and then pastebin the result of that too please
[00:41] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647223/
[00:41] <genii-around> wth
[00:42] <KylieBrooks> i'd like to automatically kill a process if it doesn't respond within X seconds.
[00:45] <yourimym1> restarted sryy :( genii seen the paste !
[00:46] <genii-around> yourimym1: Yes. I'm not sure why but it wants the linux-source  package installed
[00:46] <yourimym1> ho do i recover my desktop then ?
[00:47] <genii-around> yourimym1: so.... sudo apt-get install linux-source           and then one more time... :  sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[00:47] <genii-around> yourimym1: Don't fret, I'll stay here with you until we have it sorted
[00:47] <genii-around> yourimym1: Why your machine keeps needing reboot?
[00:48] <yourimym1> compiz crush , and i cant type anything
[00:48] <Yoshi2889> Hello, occasionally when I reboot my laptop it just hangs on "Checking battery state...", or goes to Low graphics mode. This happens more frequently when working on it's battery but it also happens when powered
[00:49] <elisa87> Hi, I'm trying to edit my ~/.bashrc using sudo vi ~/.bashrc but I am not allowed! I even can't use "chmod +w ~/.bash " as it says "chmod: cannot access `/home/jalal/.bash': No such file or directory" any idea?
[00:49] <yourimym1> what after linux source ?
[00:50] <genii-around> yourimym1: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[00:50] <genii-around> yourimym1: The command: sudo apt-get install linux-source     completed ok before this?
[00:51] <yourimym1> done
[00:51] <jrib> elisa87: you should not use sudo to edit your user's ~/.bashrc
[00:52] <genii-around> yourimym1: Please pastebin results of those last 2 commands
[00:52] <genii-around> yourimym1: Also, you might want to consider not using compiz ...
[00:54] <yourimym1> same results btw
[00:54] <jrib> elisa87: so can you edit ~/.bashrc now?
[00:54] <rexwin_> how to set gateway for ubuntu
[00:55] <genii-around> yourimym1: OK. But the linux-source install went OK ?
[00:55] <yourimym1> yes
[00:56] <genii-around> yourimym1: Is your ubuntu running on an actual machine or inside some vm ?
[00:56] <plzhelp> i am trying to make a bootable USB. i forgot to delete the ubuntu.iso off this USB and now unetbootin is telling me its out of space (it is) how do i delete the .iso from the USB? it states "unable to create trash directory" (USB is full) how do i delete the .iso so i can continue the creation process?
[00:56] <yourimym1> actual
[00:56] <n0sq> what "protocol" does openvpn use? pptp? ipsec? whatever?
[00:56]  * n0sq says it's all new to him
[00:57] <plzhelp> vpn will typically use pptp or l2tp (but thats just what my schoolin' from yesteryear sayz)
[00:58] <genii-around> yourimym1: At some point in the past, did you do something like go to Nvidia's website and download their linux driver and try to install it?
[00:58] <elisa87> jrlib -- INSERT -- W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file   (bashrc)
[00:58] <jrib> elisa87: what is the output of « ls -l ~/.bashrc »?
[00:59] <yourimym1> yes idonload installer but failed also to find right driver for me
[00:59] <genii-around> Aaaaaaah
[00:59] <yourimym1> and rolled back to nouevau
[00:59] <Yoshi2889> I think I found a workaround for my issue... http://dbastreet.com/blog/?p=972
[00:59] <elisa87> jrlib -rw-r--r-- 1 jalal pvt-jalal 3486 Apr  3  2012 /home/jalal/.bashrc
[00:59] <genii-around> yourimym1: Doing that makes it more complicated now to fix, unfortunately
[01:00] <yourimym1> so what do u suggest
[01:00] <jrib> elisa87: what is the output of « mount »?
[01:01] <yourimym1> u have no solution right !
[01:01] <jrib> elisa87: also, if you write "jrlib" instead of "jrib" it won't trigger my highlight
[01:01] <elisa87> jrlib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647294/
[01:01] <genii-around> yourimym1: I have a solution. You need to run the file you got from nvidia but with uninstall option
[01:01] <elisa87> oh sorry ..
[01:01] <elisa87> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647294/
[01:02] <yourimym1> done at erlier point of today before starting with you
[01:03] <genii-around> yourimym1: At this point however, I'm not sure it was done correctly since you missed the earlier commands of installing build-essential, kernel headers, and dkms... so I would like to see proof it was done by re-doing it
[01:04] <yourimym1> so suggestion plz
[01:04] <PoolShark_> TheLordOfTime: you around?
[01:05] <elisa87> jrib any result?
[01:05] <genii-around> yourimym1: Where did you put the file from nvidia?
[01:05] <jrib> elisa87: can you write at all to /home/jalal?  What does « touch /home/jalal/atest » do?
[01:06] <yourimym1> deleted earlier
[01:06] <elisa87> jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/cuda/cuda_installers/1_Utilities/deviceQuery$ touch /home/jalal/atest
[01:06] <elisa87>  nothing happened
[01:06] <elisa87> jrib jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/cuda/cuda_installers/1_Utilities/deviceQuery$ touch /home/jalal/atest  nothing happened
[01:06] <jrib> elisa87: and now « ls -l /home/jalal/atest »?
[01:07] <elisa87> jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/cuda/cuda_installers/1_Utilities/deviceQuery$ touch /home/jalal/atest
[01:07] <elisa87> jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/cuda/cuda_installers/1_Utilities/deviceQuery$  ls -l /home/jalal/atest
[01:07] <elisa87> -rw-r--r-- 1 jalal pvt-jalal 0 Feb 13 19:06 /home/jalal/atest
[01:07] <elisa87> jrib jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/cuda/cuda_installers/1_Utilities/deviceQuery$  ls -l /home/jalal/atest
[01:07] <elisa87> -rw-r--r-- 1 jalal pvt-jalal 0 Feb 13 19:06 /home/jalal/atest
[01:07] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <plzhelp> how do you delete 1 file from a USB thumbdrive that has 0bytes free (without destroying all the data)
[01:08] <jrib> plzhelp: right click, delete?
[01:08] <PoolShark_> rm $file?
[01:08] <plzhelp> delete produces the error "unable to create trash directory
[01:08] <PoolShark_> rm -f $file
[01:08] <jrib> plzhelp: are you selecting "move to trash" instead of "delete"?
[01:09] <plzhelp> delete is whatr it is called in the context menu. ill try rm from terminal
[01:09] <jrib> elisa87: you should be able to write to ~/.bashrc as far as I can tell.  How are you opening the file?
[01:10] <elisa87> sudo vi ~/.bashrc
[01:10] <jrib> elisa87: why are you still using sudo...
[01:10] <genii-around> yourimym1: Then you need to re-download it, then run with: sudo sh ./NVIDIA-FILENAME-HERE --uninstall
[01:10] <PoolShark_> why do you need to sudo to modify your own .bashrc?
[01:10] <elisa87> jrib everywhere is mentioned to use it
[01:11] <jrib> elisa87: you should be wary of whatever documentation you are following that suggests that
[01:11] <PoolShark_> ~/.bashrc is defined as the current logged in user's .bashrc, so you do not need to sudo to edit it, ever
[01:12] <tad-pole> Anyone familiar with getting MOH: Warfighter running on linux? :/
[01:12] <tad-pole> ubuntu to be specific. ;)
[01:12] <plzhelp> rm -f worked thanks PoolShark_  & jrib
[01:12] <PoolShark_> no problem
[01:14] <elisa87> People of the world!!! Why ain't I able to modify my ~/.bashrc  with sudo vi ~/.bashrc and exiting with :wq ???
[01:14] <jrib> elisa87: why do you ignore what you are told?  We can't help you like that
[01:14] <PoolShark_> I don't know. I'm not elite enough to use vi
[01:15] <jrib> PoolShark_: spend 20 minutes in vimtutor ;)
[01:15] <tad-pole> Or use nano?
[01:15] <fwilson> PoolShark_: what jrib said, it's vimtutor is awesome
[01:16] <fwilson> *vimtutor, not it's vimtutor
[01:16] <plzhelp> vim is awesome. almost as awesome as i am at breaking stuff with it  :P
[01:17] <PoolShark_> haha
[01:17] <elisa87> jrib thanks a lot . I solved the problem not using the sudo :)
[01:17] <PoolShark_> I usually just use nano
[01:17] <PoolShark_> heh
[01:18] <folorn2> anyone tell me how to change my name again?
[01:19] <tad-pole> type /nick newnick ?
[01:19] <broy> exit
[01:19] <folorn2> thanks man
[01:19] <plzhelp>  type " /nick %yournamehere%
[01:19] <broy> exit
[01:19] <broy> exit
[01:19] <broy> quit
[01:19] <tad-pole> enter
[01:19] <FloodBot1> broy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <tad-pole> :)
[01:19] <broy> sorry
[01:20] <tad-pole> :P
[01:20] <fwilson> plzhelp: haha yeah
[01:21] <Naphatul> what network manager does ubuntu use?
[01:21] <D3im0s666> Hello World!
[01:21] <Folorn> thanks alot everyone :)
[01:25] <nerder> quit
[01:32] <nerder> hello everybody
[01:32] <nerder> some one can help me to install redmine on my webhost?
[01:36] <plzhelp> is there a way to create a bootable USB from win7 ISO in ubuntu? (yes i have the legal right to do so)
[01:38] <genii-around> plzhelp: If you're already running a win7 somewhere maybe consider http://images2.store.microsoft.com/prod/clustera/framework/w7udt/1.0/en-us/Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe instead
[01:39] <plzhelp> no i broke my hard drive an im trying to restore the ISO of my OEM disk
[01:41] <phunyguy> how is this possible... I have a Lenovo T430s laptop, it runs a windows game perfectly under wine, and a Lenovo X60 (older model), which runs the game but the graphics are all glitchy... is it perhaps an issue with 3d hardware, and if so, is there any way to fix?
[01:41] <phunyguy> they are both intel-based graphics
[01:41] <plzhelp> is it AMD? chances are your legacy and they say buy a new card
[01:41] <plzhelp> k
[01:42] <phunyguy> it is intel.
[01:42] <phunyguy> and laptop.
[01:42] <plzhelp> linux runs smoother than windows on intel. just a fact of life
[01:43] <chigypt> I cant hear the login sound in ubuntu 12.01, help please!!
[01:44] <yugnip> chigypt, there isn't one
[01:46] <chigypt> yugnip, can get and enable one?
[01:47] <yugnip> chigypt, yep, try this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-startup-login-sound-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html
[01:47] <YokoBR> hi guys... please, i would really appreciate if someone could help me with my hybrid apu/gpu AMD/AMD
[01:47] <YokoBR> i've been trying to fix this for months
[01:48] <tad-pole> Whats wrong yokoBR
[01:48] <chigypt> yugnip, thanks i will check for it.
[01:48] <skorpio> hi, how can i set pcm-volume to a fixed rate?
[01:48] <Tex_Nick> !deatils | YokoBR
[01:48] <genii-around> plzhelp: At any rate, the basic idea is: partition usb with type of 7 for partition, set the bootable flag. Then sudo mkntfs /dev/sdX# where X is the drive letter and # is the partition number you made like 1. Make a temp dir like mkdir isotemp and loop-mount the win7 iso like sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path-to-iso-file/iso-filname.iso isotemp   ... mount the partition you formatted..eg: sudo mount /dev/sdX# /mnt   ...then sudo cp -arpv
[01:48] <genii-around> isotemp/* /mnt        then sudo sync.  After that it should boot
[01:49] <tad-pole> !details | YokoBR
[01:49] <chigypt> Guys, what is the best video and downloading manager in ubuntu
[01:49] <Tex_Nick> !details | YokoBR
[01:49] <plzhelp> thanx genii-around  that sounds about right
[01:49]  * tad-pole tips his hat to Tex_Nick
[01:49] <YokoBR> tad-pole, i have a HD 4200 (APU) and a HD 6310 (GPU). Now i'm using gallium for 3d acc, but i can only use the HD 4200. I have a muxless hardware.
[01:50] <YokoBR> i can't make the proprietary driver to work, as i need the new ones for hd 6310 and the legacy driver for hd 4200
[01:50] <Tex_Nick> tad-pole : lol ubottu wouldn't trigger on that ;-)
[01:51] <skorpio> sometimes rhythmbox sets my pcm-volume to max which causes my speakers to crack - how can i prevent this?
[01:51] <skorpio> im using 12.04
[01:51] <skorpio> with rb 2.96
[01:51] <cellofellow> how do I pin a package to a particular version from a particular repo (a PPA)?
[01:52] <genii-around> !pinning
[01:52] <cellofellow> been reading that page, wondered if anyone knew of a more straightforward instruction
[01:53] <cellofellow> It only shows pinning to release (repo) and doesn't mention release *and* repo.
[01:53] <cellofellow> er release *and* version
[01:54] <genii-around> cellofellow: There's a bit more here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170235/how-do-i-cherry-pick-packages-from-a-ppa
[01:57] <YokoBR> well, this is it, guys. I can't believe that no one has hybrid gpus
[01:57] <cellofellow> YokoBR: what, you mean optimus?
[01:58] <YokoBR> cellofellow, in this case, both amd
[01:58] <YokoBR> cellofellow, powerXpress
[01:59] <cellofellow> not a clue
[01:59] <genii-around> !bumblebee
[01:59] <genii-around> Hm
[02:00] <YokoBR> genii-around, as far as i know, bumblebee is for nvidia only
[02:01] <genii-around> YokoBR: My hope was that if the factoid existed it would also have the AMD/ATI equivelent link
[02:02] <genii-around> But, Alas
[02:02] <YokoBR> i'll try to downgrade my xorg and use the legacy driver..
[02:02] <ilovett> anyone know of a good ubuntu itunes alternative that could access (and write to) my itunes library on a separate windows partion... the main reason is for writing is to be able to Rate songs
[02:03] <cellofellow> genii-around: thanks for the pinning help
[02:03] <cellofellow> ilovett: which partition won't matter, but I am very doubtful as to the existance of a jukebox app that can write to itunes directories.
[02:04] <genii-around> cellofellow: You're welcome.
[02:04] <ilovett> thx
[02:07] <Derrick___> hi
[02:07] <Derrick___> I installed Skype on 12.10, but for some reason it's not opening after installation
[02:08] <Derrick___> Nothing happens when u click the icon, it just lights up for a few seconds, thats it
[02:08] <cellofellow> Derrick___: what happens when you run skype in a terminal?
[02:09] <Derrick___> Can u tell me how to do that
[02:09] <cellofellow> Derrick___: search for Terminal in the dash, when it opens type "skype" (no quotes) and hit enter.
[02:09] <Derrick___> it works
[02:09] <Derrick___> thanks
[02:09] <Derrick___> why does it open when I click the icon
[02:09] <Derrick___> this is weird
[02:10] <Derrick___> doesnt**
[02:10] <cellofellow> not sure...
[02:10] <cellofellow> in that terminal, can you run cat /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop and paste that into pastebin.com?
[02:10] <genii-around> Probably bad path in .desktop file
[02:11] <cellofellow> Derrick___: also run which skype
[02:12] <cellofellow> Derrick___: have you done that?
[02:13] <Derrick___> It was a bad path. fixed it
[02:13] <Derrick___> thanks :)
[02:13] <cellofellow> you're welcome. :)
[02:17] <roger_> Is there any drawbacks to enabling encryption when you install a linux distro?
[02:19] <somsip> roger_: forgetting the password
[02:19] <roger_> somsip: lol, yeah that would be one?
[02:19] <somsip> roger_: we get...more than a few in here with that one
[02:19] <roger_> i bet
[02:20] <roger_> so no data access speed reductions?
[02:21] <somsip> roger_: sorry, I've never used it. Maybe others will chime in
[02:21] <roger_> somsip: its all good, thanks man....
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> i cant get postfix to authenticate with gmail as a relay server. any advice?
[02:22] <roger_> Another question. Not that I need it, but are there any packages that with the click of an icon, the drive gets wiped
[02:23] <dr_willis> roger_: doubtfull
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> roger_: idk, but i do know that you can easily create a bash file to do this :)
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> roger_: i actually created a disk backup utility that when you hook it up, it will backup everything, then wait for you to remove it for the next time
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> ah, brb
[02:24] <roger_> AcidRain2012: so a bash file is linux's equivalent to dos batch file?
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> roger_: would you like a copy of this to use?
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> roger_: correct.
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> id say its quite more advnace though ;)
[02:25] <roger_> AcidRain2012: thats ok bro..  thank anyway.
[02:25] <AcidRain2012> i actually have it posted on my website if you wish to review it at anytime, just let me know. ill try to always idle here
[02:25] <roger_> cool thanks
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> i only post code btw, so no fear of execution of anything harmful. not aht linux would allow that anyways ^_^
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> roger_: im assuming your new to ubuntu?
[02:27] <roger_> AcidRain2012: yeah i'm not to worried about ya guys.. i trust ya.  besides the laptop i'm on is just an old crash box
[02:28] <AcidRain2012> hmmm.... im not sure how the new versions of ubuntu look. but i can speak from experience and my eliteness pimped out desktop, that ubuntu 10.10 is wicked
[02:28] <roger_> yeah new to ubuntu.. actually using xubuntu..  tried many different distro's and settled with xubuntu.. system is a bit slow
[02:28] <phunyguy> hmmm.... this game runs under wine on this laptop, but on another one with the same version of Kubuntu and wine, it has really glitchy graphics.  Both are intel graphics as well.  12.10, wine 1.4.1...
[02:28] <roger_> yeah this laptop would literally crash when I opened the unity searchlight thing
[02:29] <roger_> ubuntu is definitely sweet looking though
[02:29] <phunyguy> one is a Lenovo T430s (working) the other is an X60 (not working)
[02:30] <roger_> phunyguy: different video cards i'm assuming?
[02:30] <phunyguy> yeah... the one that doesnt work is i945
[02:30] <roger_> and the one that does?
[02:30] <phunyguy> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[02:31] <roger_> phunyguy: so they are using different video drivers as well?
[02:31] <phunyguy> yes
[02:32] <phunyguy> also one is 64 bit and the other is 32bit OS
[02:33] <phunyguy> 64 bit works
[02:33] <phunyguy> but the other one doesnt support 64 bit
[02:33] <roger_> I'm pretty new to linux.. but i'd be willing to bet the driver is where we could start experimenting.
[02:33] <AcidRain2012> roger_: use gnome2. period. u will love it
[02:33] <Phewk> .
[02:34] <roger_> AcidRain2012: thanks I'll get that iso
[02:34] <brady2600> humm.. when i run the ubuntu software updater the progress bar says loading software list.. forever.
[02:35] <phunyguy> I am betting it is driver as well.
[02:35] <brady2600> like a half hour has gone by, and the progress bar is like.. at the same spot.
[02:35] <roger_> phunyguy: yeah.. so now all we need now is some help from someone here on how to switch that driver up
[02:35] <phunyguy> I have another workstation with i910 graphics which I think uses the same kernel module, and it did the same thing there
[02:35] <roger_> cuz I'm nub
[02:35] <phunyguy> No I am afraid there is no other option
[02:36] <phunyguy> a driver doesnt exist that would change anything
[02:36] <jake__> can anyone tell me how to install an hp printer. I am a newbie to ubuntu
[02:37] <phunyguy> at least I know it works on newer laptops, so my daughter has options, just unfotunately she won't be able to play on HER laptop. I will install on the wife's and clal it a day.
[02:37] <roger_> hmm, I've briefly read something about creating a driver while researching a past issue I had..  Anyone here have any experience with that?
[02:37] <phunyguy> roger_ I doubt it
[02:37] <roger_> phunyguy: hmm. well I'm sry I couldn't be more help..  still learning here
[02:38] <jake__> problems with hp printer install. any help here ? I am a linux newbie
[02:38] <phunyguy> we all are, I probably have a bit more experience but knew I was missing something obvious
[02:38] <phunyguy> thanks for trying though.  (been on *ubuntu since 7.10)
[02:38] <roger_> phunyguy: right on..  have a good one
[02:39] <roger_> jake__: let me look it up real quick and see if I can find anything that can help us
[02:39] <jake__> thanks roger. i am only 3 days into ubuntu
[02:40] <roger_> jake__: what OS, and what printer?
[02:40] <jake__> OS ubuntu 12.10  hp deskjet 3050
[02:40] <lagbox> maybe a cups problem ?
[02:40] <jake__> roger_ thanks for helping. I have no clue about how to use this OS
[02:41] <wiggmpk> jake__: did you install the linux drivers?
[02:41] <roger_> jake__: no problem man.  what have you tried so far?
[02:41] <jake__> i used the terminal and installed hplip-3.12.11.run
[02:41] <jake__> it is wireless and usb both
[02:43] <roger_> jake__: ok did the installation process go ok?
[02:43] <jake__> roger_: I followed these directions  http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[02:43] <Schumi23>  Hi!  Anyone here know a good alternative to the windows application TweetDeck for Ubuntu? I havn't been able to find any. Thanks for reading this :)
[02:44] <jake__> i printed one page, but then tried to get it to use the wireless and that is when all my trouble started. I cant even get it to see the printer on usb connection now
[02:45] <zykotick9> jake__: (just a comment, don't take this too seriously) but you should NOT install things from outside of Ubuntu's repos!  you now have files/programs installed that the system is totally unaware of...  i'd consider your setup broken because of this [but that only my OPINION!]
[02:45] <roger_> ok..  on installation at the "device discovery" step did you choose the "wireless" option?
[02:45] <wiggmpk> Schumi23: you could use the Tweetdeck web client
[02:45] <savagecroc> how do i search for a list of available packages?
[02:46] <zykotick9> savagecroc: use Ubuntu software center, or from terminal "apt-cache search foo"
[02:46] <wiggmpk> zykotick9: why would you consider a system broken because the program doesnt reside on the official ubuntu repositories?
[02:46] <savagecroc> thankyou :) .. yeah ubuntu server.. so no UI
[02:46] <jake__> where can i learn about how the repos work? i only know windows lol
[02:47] <ForSpareParts> What files are loaded when I start a new terminal instance, besides .bashrc?
[02:48] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: whatever that .run installed, there is no clean way to remove it.  or for apt to update/manage it...
[02:48] <zykotick9> jake__: keep it in channel please
[02:48] <jake__> 10-4
[02:48] <wiggmpk> zykotick9: they are just printer drivers.. and the installer itself should have a way to remove whatever it installs
[02:48] <machicola> what is a fairly standard C++ version + libraries, etc. package for Ubuntu
[02:49] <machicola> maybe just sudo apt-get install c++
[02:49] <Schumi23>  wiggmpk I was hoping for a client like Tweetdeck, but I guess the web client can work should nothing else exist. Thanks though!
[02:49] <ForSpareParts> A failed installation left something in one of those files that's breaking every time I open a terminal, but I don't know where it is. Definitely not bashrc
[02:50] <zykotick9> ForSpareParts: tried a different terminal, like xterm/urxvt?  same issue there?
[02:50] <xangua> Schumi23: there are hotot and turpial
[02:50] <wiggmpk> Schumi23: unfortunately Adobe AIR is no longer supported on Linux, so installing Tweetdeck natively isnt an option. You could install WINE and install the Windows version of Tweetdeck in WINE. But at least for a native solution you could use the web client.
[02:51] <ForSpareParts> zykotick9, Happens in xterm.
[02:51] <Tex_Nick> jake__:  you might have a look @ ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[02:51] <zykotick9> Schumi23: finding native gnu/linux replacements is a better long-term suggestion.
[02:51] <zykotick9> ForSpareParts: what happens exactly?
[02:51] <jake__> thanks Tex_Nick
[02:52] <Schumi23> k, thanks :) (So such as hotot or turpial?)
[02:52] <YokoBR> guys, i can't configure my hybrid apu/gpu
[02:52] <Tex_Nick> jake__:  np hope it points you in a good direction ;-)
[02:52] <ForSpareParts> zykotick9, From a failed attempt to install python's virtualenvwrapper... http://pastebin.com/n3569eYx
[02:52] <xangua> Schumi23: hotot works as a standalon twitter client or as an addon in chromium, it supports columns, search, lists, etc.
[02:53] <Schumi23> thanks :)
[02:53] <zykotick9> ForSpareParts: sorry, i don't go to pastebin.com and i have no idea what virtualenvwrapper is so i'm probably no help anyways.  you could check ~/.profile perhaps?
[02:54] <enbloc^> exit
[02:54] <ForSpareParts> zykotick9, Sorry. I sent it to paste.ubuntu, if you want to take a look... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1647633/
[02:55] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: check to see if "python-virtualenv" is installed on your system
[02:56] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, It's not.
[02:56] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, Ditto for the pip version.
[02:56] <zykotick9> ForSpareParts: sorry, i have no idea what that would mean OR why it's tied into your terminals.  good luck.
[02:56] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: sudo apt-get install python-virtualenv, then try again
[02:57] <adam__> getting a hangup on install alongside windows 7 at "activating service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1'  .. any help on this?
[02:59] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, Doesn't help, unfortunately.
[02:59] <YokoBR> omg, this is just freaking me out... why can't i enable my gpu?
[02:59] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:00] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, Trying to get rid of all traces of virtualenv so that I can do a fresh installation from pip.
[03:01] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: and how ar eyou trying to install pip?
[03:02] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, apt-get. Actually, I misspoke. I don't want to remove virtualenv, since I installed it with apt-get, but I do want to get rid of virtualenvwrapper.
[03:03] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, Hell, I'd be okay with getting rid of everything, including pip, and starting fresh -- I just want a nice, solid pip/venv setup. Whatever the best way is to do that, I'm down for it.
[03:03] <zykotick9> ForSpareParts: did you install virtualenvwrapper using something other the apt/USC?
[03:03] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: so you typed what to install pip?
[03:04] <ForSpareParts> zykotick9, I installed it via pip, but that didn't take, so I got rid of it and tried via apt.
[03:04] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, sudo apt-get install python-virtualenv
[03:04] <ForSpareParts> (the pip package is a dependency)
[03:04] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: so if you type "which pip" in terminal, what does it tell you?
[03:04] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, /usr/local/bin/pip
[03:05] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: so try "sudo pip install --upgrade pip" and "sudo pip install --upgrade virtualenv"
[03:05] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, OK.
[03:06] <ForSpareParts> Alright, that seems to have worked.
[03:07] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: any way to test it?
[03:07] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, Don't know of one off the top of my head. I'm trying to install the wrapper the same way, that should tell me something...
[03:09] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, IIRC, I think all the trouble started because I was trying to install stuff from pip without using sudo -- I figured that if I virtualenv installed, I should be able to start using pip by itself, since that's kinda the point
[03:09] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, But it might be I didn't have it set up all the way yet.
[03:10] <savagecroc> Is there anyway with SCP to make it respect the directory permission settings?
[03:11] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: so all is good then?
[03:13] <JesseH> shit
[03:14] <Neda> Does anybody know how can I filter the result with up and down arrow keys in the terminal, by typing the first letters of the command?
[03:14] <JesseH> What is this place?
[03:15] <Neda> Anybody there?
[03:15] <Neda> !language | JesseH
[03:15] <JesseH> This isn't african heritage channel?
[03:15] <JesseH> Dang
[03:15] <JesseH> the gentoo boys strike again
[03:16] <Neda> Does anybody know how can I filter the result with up and down arrow keys in the terminal, by typing the first letters of the command?
[03:17] <elisa87> Hi do know why I receive this error:  Can't stat /usr/lib/nvidia-settings: No such file or directory ?
[03:17] <Neda> Does anybody know how can I filter the result with up and down arrow keys in the terminal, by typing the first letters of the command?
[03:17] <wiggmpk> elisa87: I would say, its because nvidia-settings doesnt exist
[03:17] <savagecroc> when you scp a file what determines what file permissions it has?
[03:17] <wiggmpk> elisa87: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[03:17] <Neda> Does anybody know how can I filter the result with up and down arrow keys in the terminal, by typing the first letters of the command?
[03:17] <elisa87> It was supposed to be created after installation I don't know why it has not been installed!
[03:18] <wiggmpk> elisa87: how did you install your drivers? via jockey-gtk or using the nvidia package from nvidia?
[03:19] <elisa87> I installed CUDA toolkits and thought this will be installed afterwards automatically
[03:19] <elisa87> I am using what you said right now
[03:19] <wiggmpk> elisa87: I said 2 different things.. so which one? jockey or nvidia proprietary drivers?
[03:21] <ForSpareParts> wiggmpk, So far as I can tell! I appreciate your help.
[03:21] <wiggmpk> ForSpareParts: np mate
[03:22] <Tex_Nick> Neda : are you refering to autocompletion ? first few letters with the TAB key will list options ?
[03:23] <elisa87> Do you know what I should do ? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcuda
[03:23] <elisa87> wiggmpk:  that error is fixed now...thanks
[03:24] <ACubed10> hello everyone
[03:24] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: there's actually a pageup/pagedown (usually) that cycles through old commands starting with what you've already typed.  sorta a TAB with your history of commands
[03:25] <wiggmpk> elisa87: np, i havent install anything cuda related before so I cant help ya on that one
[03:27] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  ahhh yeah ... i use up & down arrow keys for that ... i thought Neda was looking for a filter type function
[03:28] <john_redmond> hello room
[03:28] <savagecroc> is there anyway to make default ACLs actually apply when uploading a file via scp.   The only way i can get it to work is  scp file server:/tmp    then cp /tmp/filename /to/where/its/supposed/to/go   rm /tmp/filename
[03:28] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: unless you've modified it, it's actually quit different from regular up/down.  you can type "ls <PGUP>" and it'll only cycle through things starting with "ls ".  it very handy actually.
[03:28] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  as in ls TAB key ... would list ls commands ?
[03:34] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  okman i've never used that ... and it doesn't seem to work on this box ... don't think i've modified my key-bindings to prevent that ... i need to look into that ... thanks for the pointer ;-)
[03:34] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: i don't think it's enabled by default, you might need to modify /etc/inputrc
[03:35] <iFlip> I have a remote desktop question - anyone fluent?
[03:35] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: history-search-backwards (and forwards) are the variables
[03:37] <iFlip> I have Ubuntu 10.04 running on a gigabit LAN. I connect through "screen sharing" on my iMac OSX Mountain Lion and the connection is extremely sluggish. The cursor will track for about three seconds and then non responsive. I can still see remote activity but my interaction is void.
[03:37] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  i'm on the phone right now ... bout 5 minutes will have a look ... thanks for the info ... will report back :-)
[03:39] <iFlip> I never had this problem before. I recently rebuilt my LAMP server and since it has not been performing like the first install.
[03:40] <axtran> iFlip: What client are you using?
[03:40] <iFlip> Mac built-in VNC protcol
[03:40] <axtran> iFlip: So you're using the iMac to VNC to your Ubuntu system?
[03:41] <iFlip> correct
[03:41] <axtran> Hmm, I'm going the other way (Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit, Remmina) to OS X 10.8 and it is fast.
[03:41] <axtran> Are you using something like... encryption?  Try disabling that.
[03:42] <iFlip> On the client or server side
[03:42] <axtran> Server, of course
[03:42] <iFlip> no encryption - i just checked that again to make sure
[03:42] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  i'm trying to multitask with one hand ... sure that requires logout & logini ?
[03:43] <axtran> Hmm, I don't know
[03:43] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: not sure?
[03:44] <dfrey> I'm having problems playing audio over HDMI using a NVidia card under Ubuntu.  My receiver seems to be searching for the HDMI audio signal, but then gives up and goes to analog.  In Windows 7, the audio over HDMI works correctly.  Any ideas?
[03:45] <dfrey> My video card is a GeForce GTX 560
[03:46] <RPG-Master> dfrey: how does you sound settings look?
[03:46] <RPG-Master> Like, under devices which is selected?
[03:47] <usr13> dfrey: audio cable ?
[03:48] <RPG-Master> I just went through the exact same thing on another PC with an NVIDIA card, but I've promptly forgotten the whole thing...
[03:48] <usr13> dfrey: pulse is supposed to be diverting the audio but its not, (at least that's what I've been lead to belive), (that it's pulseaudio's job to do it).
[03:49] <usr13> RPG-Master: Was it someting to do with pulseaudio?
[03:52] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  i removed the comments from the two lines in /etc/inputrc ... had to logout & back in ... now as an example, if i ls and tab up it seems to go on forever listing all possible instances of ls ... including grep's and other stuff ... kinda cool ... lol ... i've gotta play with this ... thanks man for the tip ;-)
[03:52] <dfrey> RPG-Master, usr13: It just started working.  I have no idea why.  I have tried a million different things already.  Thanks I guess
[03:53] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: glad to help
[03:56] <GeekSquid> dfrey: remember, in order for HDMI digital audio to go across the cable the codec in the video would have to support HDMI playback
[03:57] <abird> Hi, I've been having a lot of trouble getting ubuntu on a dvd
[03:58] <GeekSquid> abird: you mean the iso? or you can't get it to burn
[04:00] <abird> I'm using a mac and disk utility- I downloaded the iso and when I try to open it I get "no mountable file systems"
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  that is listing previous instances of ls that i've used in the past ... i don't know how far back it goes, but some of the instances were a week or more ago ... i wonder what log file they are comming from ??? that is neat though ... it definately has functionallity !!!
[04:01] <GeekSquid> abird: try deepburner available free and doesn't cost for the free version and doesn't load a bunch of junk on your mac
[04:01] <Ben64> abird: i don't think we can help you with mac, but you need to burn the image onto the disc, you'll need to find some software that has that capability
[04:01] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: i believe it's just your history file.  ~/.bash_history
[04:02] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: really good when you use a program with lots of switches that you can't remember ;)
[04:02] <abird> alright, thanks for the suggestions
[04:03] <abird> oh, deepburner isn't available on mac
[04:05] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  ok man this wasn't even my question ... i was originally trying to answwer a question for Neda ... looks like i'm the one getting the education here ;-) lol
[04:05] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: always good to learn-while-you-help ;)
[04:06] <abird> I found this topic which I think is related: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153833/why-cant-i-mount-the-ubuntu-12-04-installer-isos-in-mac-os-x/153854#153854
[04:06] <CIDR> I have 12.10 installed on my HTPC box.  I have a geforce 210 with hdmi out, but I'm not getting any audio over HDIm.  Any ideas?
[04:06] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9:  REALLY !!! thanks man ;-)
[04:06] <CIDR> I installed the latest nvidia drivers, and all it did was make my screen slightly blurry
[04:06] <abird> can't find a fix, though
[04:07] <usr13> abird: audio cable :)
[04:07] <STMelon> bbiab
[04:07] <h00k> CIDR: you can go into your sound menu, and change your output device to digital HDMI
[04:08] <CIDR> Yes
[04:08] <CIDR> I have 2 HDMI's in there, and neither do anythign when I hit test sound
[04:08] <abird> what do you mean, usr?
[04:08] <h00k> CIDR: oh. hrm.
[04:08] <usr13> abird: Sorry, that was for CIDR
[04:08] <abird> no worries
[04:09] <usr13> CIDR: How did you install the new Video Driver?
[04:10] <usr13> CIDR: Did you just download from nvidia.com?
[04:11] <CIDR> apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[04:11] <usr13> CIDR: I suggest going to nvidia.com and download install the correct driver.
[04:12] <CIDR> Ok...
[04:12] <usr13> CIDR: That'll more-than-likely fix it.
[04:13] <abird> thanks for the suggestions, if I figure this out I'll come back on later
[04:14] <zykotick9> CIDR: think long and hard before using nvidia.com's driver...
[04:14] <WXZ> how do you use enhanced zoom with dual monitors?
[04:14] <baggy> Could anyone assist me with Java 7 on Ubuntu? It's absolutely borked. :s
[04:15] <GeekSquid> WXZ: that's a #compiz question, you might find help there
[04:15] <WXZ> GeekSquid: good point, thank you
[04:16] <CIDR> zykotick9: I just want hdmi audio/video to work...
[04:16] <zykotick9> CIDR: i know.  but there are "implications" to using nvidia.com's driver, instead of the one in repo.
[04:16] <CIDR> Like?
[04:16] <CIDR> I mean as of now using the one from the repo gets me no sound, so...
[04:16] <zykotick9> CIDR: every time there is a kernel update, your graphics are gonna break
[04:17] <CIDR> Don't care
[04:17] <CIDR> No need to update it
[04:17] <CIDR> it's a HTPC box
[04:17] <CIDR> once it works I don't want to touch it.
[04:18] <kunji> CIDR: You should probably at least do your other upgrades though.
[04:19] <Tex_Nick> !details | baggy
[04:19] <CIDR> Yeah, at this point none of that matters
[04:19] <Vorenii> anyone know why i dont have any sounds on my imac?
[04:19] <CIDR> As I have no sound, and the graphics look like shite with the nvidia drivers and the repo drivers
[04:20] <kunji> CIDR: Why not just upgrade everything but the kernel though?  It will matter when your network gets compromised through your HTPC box :P
[04:21] <CIDR> there's no ports open to the htpc box
[04:21] <cyanboy> Hi, I am trying to triple boot on my macbook pro. With OS X, Win8 and Ubuntu.
[04:21] <CIDR> really no worried abotu that at this point
[04:22] <cyanboy> Now after that I installed Ubuntu, windows won't boot
[04:22] <kunji> CIDR: I know what you mean, but that won't be much comfort when it gets hit with a 0-day java exploit or the like because the packages weren't up to date with fixed ones.
[04:23] <CIDR> I'm no using java... it's going to play music and video via xbmc, nothing else
[04:24] <CIDR> either way, it doesn't much matter if the thing won't play sound or dispaly video right...
[04:24] <simpson_> hello
[04:24] <kunji> CIDR: Right, but that's not exactly my point, the exploint doesn't have to be java.  UPnP could certainly have vulnerabilities as well (we know the gateway device spec does, servers and clients are less clear though).
[04:24] <kunji> *exploit
[04:24] <simpson_> I am setting up a clustered server currently, do you know if Ubuntu Server will support all the same NICs as Ubuntu Desktop?
[04:25] <CIDR> simpson_: yes...
[04:25] <kunji> CIDR: It's easy enough to upgrade the userspace without changing the kernel, I don't see a reason not to here.
[04:25] <simpson_> thank you
[04:25] <Tex_Nick> cyanboy:  will the pc boot into ubuntu ?
[04:26] <cyanboy> yes, I am currently in ubuntu now
[04:27] <baggy> I have a problem with my Java installation. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. When updating, I get a Package operation failure with a pretty lengthy readout. Should I go ahead and post it anyway, or?
[04:27] <Tex_Nick> cyanboy:  what distro are you using
[04:27] <cyanboy> Ubuntu 12.10
[04:28] <iknofailfu> hey guys, i can't edit tags in rhythmbox, nothing wrong with permissions, is it a bug or rhythmbox doesn't support this feature anymore?
[04:31] <xxiao> for those new laptop with SSD+HDD, will ubuntu be smart enough to leverage that?
[04:31] <xxiao> or should I pick that SSD as a swap device?
[04:31] <xxiao> not sure how the OS uses that SSD, seems like the filesystem should be aware of that
[04:32] <Tex_Nick> you might just need to update grub ... i've never done a triple boot ... there are a few people in the channel now i think could help you ... rephrase your question in the form of ... how to use update-grub
[04:33] <kunji> xxiao: Hmm, isn't that handled by the disk controller?
[04:33] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: fyi, whatever grub was installed last, is currently in control (and only it's "update-grub" will do anything)...
[04:33] <iknofailfu> i heard of some kernel feature that allows using of ssd as cache device for hdd or it's not what u're talking about?
[04:33] <kunji> Tex_Nick: I've done up to like a hexaboot :P, who needs to know?
[04:33] <cyanboy> I ran update grub, should I try a reboot?
[04:33] <Tex_Nick> kunji : cyanboy
[04:34] <kunji> cyanboy: Did you see it detect everything you wanted it to on the command line output?
[04:34] <xxiao> kunji: not sure, otherwise filesystem needs to be aware of cache-ddr-ssd-sata
[04:34] <cyanboy> It found all the OS's
[04:35] <kunji> cyanboy: Then you're probably good to go, they should show up and work on reboot.
[04:35] <xxiao> i don't think there is a controller that is so smart to do caching etc with a SSD and HDD hanging on it
[04:35] <cyanboy> brb it is!
[04:35] <kunji> xxiao: Hmm, true, I would have to look it up, intuitively I want to say it's done by the controller in hardware, but I could be wrong.
[04:36] <plutonas> I have installed Scid, When I press this ubuntu start button and write scid it doesn't show up... but I can start it from a terminal. Why is that?
[04:37] <kunji> xxiao: Hmm, why not, it's exactly what is done for RAM all the time, except that the cpu makes the decisions, whereas here it would be done locally by disk controller
[04:37] <Tex_Nick> kunji : good to see you ... thanks for chiming in there ... hexaboot !!! that's cool ... i've always chilled at dual ;-) lol
[04:37] <kunji> xxiao: Lemme read up on them a bit though and get back to you
[04:38] <kunji> Tex_Nick: What's also really cool is that grub2 can boot from isos ^_^
[04:38] <xxiao> ideally it should be L1-->L2-->DDR-->SSD-->SATA now. for disk controllers if you hook a SSD and a SATA on its ports(same SAS interface) i don't think the controller can tell the difference
[04:38] <iknofailfu> will this feature work with dm-crypt + luks encrypted instance?
[04:38] <xxiao> it will just treat them as sda and sdb
[04:39] <xxiao> kind of sit in parallel and defeats the purposes of buffering/caching
[04:39] <kunji> xxiao: Not that controller, we're talking about the disks that have ssd and spinny portions right?  The disk controller, which each HD or SSD has.
[04:40] <xxiao> kunji: oh that one storage controller, but it's too late when data hits that
[04:40] <xxiao> the os needs to be aware of their difference ahead of time i assume?
[04:40] <kunji> xxiao: Too late to do what?
[04:41] <kunji> xxiao: I suspect that it is actually transparent to the OS
[04:41] <xxiao> say the os knows DDR and disk are different
[04:41] <xxiao> but i doubt the OS knows anything on disk controller/speed, say, i insert a usb stick and a hard drive, the os knows nothing on their performance
[04:41] <xxiao> it will treat them same as sda, sdb, etc
[04:41] <iknofailfu> xxiao, http://atlas.evilpiepirate.org/git/linux-bcache.git/tree/Documentation/bcache.txt?h=bcache-dev ?
[04:42] <elisa87> why  ls -l nvidia* gives me : ls: cannot access nvidia*: No such file or directory ???
[04:42] <kunji> xxiao: But I think in this case the OS will only see sda and will not know what data is on the ssd vs. on the hdd.
[04:43] <iknofailfu> `mount /dev/bcache0 /mnt` seems legit
[04:43] <cyanboy> It didn't work :(
[04:43] <cyanboy> in the rEFIt meny, Windows took me to grub. I tried selecting Windows 8, but then it failed to load
[04:43] <elisa87>  nvidia-smi -a
[04:43] <elisa87> NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (No such file or directory).
[04:43] <elisa87> NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with NVIDIA driver. Make sure that latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.
[04:44] <kunji> xxiao: You can also do it the way you're thinking of, but I think it's much less common, and it done completely in software in that case, you don't even need to be using a hybrid disk.
[04:44] <cyanboy> also after the grub-update ubuntu wouldn't boot normally
[04:44] <kunji> cyanboy: rEFIt?
[04:44] <cyanboy> yes
[04:44] <xxiao> kunji: i'm buying a ssd+hdd laptop for ubuntu solely, not sure if it's worthwhile for the extra fee on ssd if ubuntu can not leverage it
[04:45] <xxiao> iknofailfu: great stuff, what's the status on that? merged? need patch it?
[04:45] <iknofailfu> xxiao, did u check the link?
[04:45] <GeekSquid> xxiao: put / on the ssd and /home on hdd ... thats all you need to know
[04:45] <iknofailfu> well i've seen it was announced a while ago the only thing i know is that it already works at least
[04:45] <kunji> xxiao: Look into it a bit more, but what I'm saying it I don't think Ubuntu needs to know jack squat about how the drive runs things internally in order to use it because it's handled by the disk controller.
[04:45] <kunji> *is
[04:46] <iknofailfu> GeekSquid, so what r advantages of putting /home on hdd instead of ssd?
[04:46] <shadowflee> what is the best way to get back into my wpa2 network m dad locked me out of ?
[04:46] <kunji> shadowflee: Beg forgiveness
[04:46] <iknofailfu> shadowflee, to make ur homework
[04:47] <xxiao> since SSD wins in random IO probably it should be used a tmpfs
[04:47] <kunji> cyanboy: I'm not sure what that is, is this an EFI system you're dealing with, because that complicates things -_-
[04:47] <cyanboy> I have noticed :C
[04:47] <Ben64> xxiao: what no
[04:47] <kunji> xxiao: You might not have any choice, as the OS may only see one disk
[04:47] <rypervenche> xxiao: I use an SSD for my / and an HDD for my /home.
[04:48] <xxiao> rypervenche: do no bcache as iknofailfu mentioned above at all?
[04:48] <kunji> xxiao: Really, I suspect it works very much like virtual memory does.
[04:48] <xxiao> s/do/so/
[04:49] <xxiao> kunji: i doubt it unless you have patch mentioned above
[04:49] <iknofailfu> xxiao, if i were u i would check the status of this thing, maybe its already works like a charm almost out of the box
[04:49] <GeekSquid> xxiao: kunji is correct. by putting the operating system on the ssd it gives extremly fast access to os stuff... your personal files, music, video can take just a little longer to load, but really if you can stream full frame 1080p from a hdd no problem. but can you load libreoffice, have mysql flying data in and out, and compile all the code you want to an from the ssd at blazing speed, then you store the data on the hdd, done deal
[04:49] <kunji> GeekSquid: umm, that's not what I was saying
[04:49] <rypervenche> xxiao: I have no problem.s
[04:50] <iknofailfu> no guys ur advices ruin the main idea of ssd advantages
[04:50] <iknofailfu> because ur .profile folders r stored at /home which is hdd in ur case
[04:50] <rypervenche> xxiao: Really really fast compiling times.^^
[04:50] <iknofailfu> and thats not what he was asking about
[04:50] <kunji> Also we're not talking about SSD + HDD, we're talking about a hybrid disk, which has both internal to it, I'm quite sure it's controller will handle the caching transparently
[04:51] <iknofailfu> kernel features responsible for that
[04:51] <xxiao> alright, for $30 more I can add a 16GB SSD
[04:51] <GeekSquid> kunji: really at that point your are talking about the limits of the SATA connection (i.e. laptop hardware)
[04:52] <ReAzem> Forgot to select what to install during installation process, I now have a minimal install, what are the packages to isntall default WM and basic tools?
[04:52] <xxiao> IdeaPad Y500 Laptop - 59360241 vs 59360242
[04:52] <jtrucks> how do I flush my DNS cache?
[04:52] <xxiao> 41 is $30 more than 42 as it has a 16GB SSD
[04:52] <iknofailfu> xxiao, that sounds like a bit expensive
[04:52] <kunji> Here's the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive
[04:52] <jtrucks> i.e. force a lookup on the server?
[04:52] <GeekSquid> ReAzem: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <ReAzem> GeekSquid, Thanks
[04:53] <xxiao> iknofailfu: $879 vs $849
[04:53] <prariedogux> hey guys, was wondering if anyone could help me out.  seems when i install ubuntu on my toshiba, it initially installs and works reasonably well.  but then after i update, ubuntu updates so that the wifi no longer works. after trying all kinds of stuff, ive reinstalled.  does anyone know how i can update everything but whatever stupid thing it wants to do to my wifi ?
[04:53] <xxiao> 1080p which is nice
[04:53] <iknofailfu> xxiao, i mean paying for 16gb of ssd
[04:54] <xxiao> iknofailfu: it is...but it's the way it is, i wish it's 128GB
[04:54] <xxiao> or larger
[04:54] <kunji> But it's not so much 16 GB of SSD you're paying for, you're really paying for an integrated cache.  Like getting a machine with more RAM, but as an intermediate step.
[04:54] <iknofailfu> its all like 30-100$ for 16gb of ram and u're going to buy 16 gb of ssd while u could just buy some 60gb ssd drive and be happy instead of spending money for questionable features
[04:54] <prariedogux> anyone know why ubuntu insists on updates that skrew up wifi drivers all the time?  if it works to begin with, why update it so it doesnt work?
[04:55] <kunji> prariedogux: Umm, most should be touching the wifi drivers, did you do a kernel update?
[04:55] <xxiao> good points, now swinging to the one without SSDs :)
[04:56] <xxiao> the thing is it's a laptop, i can't really put a SSD into it
[04:56] <kunji> Did you guys read the article I linked yet, I have a feeling no one read it -_-
[04:56] <prariedogux> kunji.. i think so. it says 'can only do a partial update'  first, then you have to run update again afterwards.. which would be great, if it didnt wipe out the wifi
[04:56] <iknofailfu> xxiao, im running laptop with ssd and hdd placed over hdd-caddy instead of optical drive
[04:56] <kunji> prariedogux: Hmm, I've never had that happen before actually, my update have always been all at once, that's pretty weird.
[04:57] <zykotick9> prariedogux: a "partial upgrade" translates to "system is gonna break" and by the sounds of it - that's what your experiencing
[04:57] <GeekSquid> xxiao: why wouldn't you be able to put an ssd in a laptop, they make ssd's for laptops, although the price point makes it an issue
[04:57] <prariedogux> its a fresh install.
[04:57] <kunji> GeekSquid: He means he can't fit both an SSD and HDD
[04:57] <GeekSquid> prariedogux: which version?
[04:57] <xxiao> GeekSquid: i mean to add a ssd , not sure if there is space for that
[04:57] <prariedogux> system is new.  so no, i think it upgrades the kernel, and repos, and then after that, finish the upgrates
[04:57] <prariedogux> 12.04
[04:57] <kunji> xxiao: Probably not
[04:58] <GeekSquid> xxiao: some lappys have 2 drive bays
[04:58] <prariedogux> thing is, the initial install leaves me with wifi. the update breaks it
[04:58] <iknofailfu> they always do until there is sata plug for optical drive :/
[04:58] <prariedogux> my wifi is realtek 8188ce
[04:58] <kunji> See, I would expect most hybrid drives to operate similar to how this one does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_Drive
[04:59] <zykotick9> prariedogux: does it warn you saying it's going to do a "partial upgrade"?
[04:59] <iknofailfu> http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00ZsuaUbVRVYof/Universal-Second-HDD-Caddy.jpg
[04:59] <GeekSquid> prariedogux: try dling 12.10 and see if that works ootb
[04:59] <prariedogux> yes
[04:59] <zykotick9> prariedogux: always answer no to that... it's system breaking!
[05:00] <Ben64> zykotick9: not always
[05:00] <iknofailfu> kunji, same is done over bcache
[05:00] <zykotick9> Ben64: ahhh, pretty much.  Something can't be update - what that "something" is, will determine the extent of the damage.
[05:00] <kunji> iknofailfu: I know, but he can't fit two drives in the laptop
[05:01] <kunji> Here's another example that works a bit differently, caches at the block level:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Response_Technology
[05:01] <iknofailfu> thats another question to discuss, if there is optical drive (who on earth still needs one) he still cat buy hdd caddy
[05:01] <iknofailfu> so i would start from laptop model
[05:02] <zykotick9> Ben64: the only time i saw "partial updates" on ubuntu was when i was running the development release.  "aptitude safe-upgrade" would update without breaking stuff, in those cases.
[05:02] <kunji> iknofailfu: Oh, I just kind of assumed no optical :P
[05:02] <zykotick9> apt-get has no "safe-upgrade" that i'm aware of...
[05:03] <kunji> zykotick9: I thought it was only supposed to do safe update by default per se and only do otherwise if forced
[05:03] <CIDR> is there a way to make sure my video settings won't change upon a reboot?  like no matter what monitor etc... is plugged in?
[05:04] <kunji> CIDR: Umm, with nvidia drivers?  Not a nice way, you could probably write an xorg.conf and lock down permissions on it or something
[05:04] <xxiao> iknofailfu: the caddy looks great, thanks
[05:04] <Ben64> zykotick9: partial upgrades are just dist-upgrades, not necessarily bad at all
[05:04] <CIDR> yeah with nvidia drivers
[05:04] <zykotick9> Ben64: no, they're not.  not even close...
[05:05] <Ben64> zykotick9: they are in fact the same
[05:05] <iknofailfu> xxiao, please remember that it shouldn't cost more that 25$ no matter what prices u will meet, its all the same of standart, cheaper is better in this case
[05:06] <kunji> Mardi Gras sale on Newegg, so I guess check it out if you're looking to buy stuff
[05:07] <zykotick9> Ben64: this was the 1st relevant hit, didn't read all of it but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859240
[05:08] <zykotick9> seems "partial upgrade" on 12.04 is almost common...
[05:08] <zykotick9> that's bad
[05:08] <user___> j
[05:08] <spacecase> Anyone have any ideas about this question I posted? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/221838
[05:09] <kunji> zykotick9: I did actually jump ship from 12.04 to 12.10 pretty quickly, because of a kernel update that broke my wireless in 12.04.
[05:10] <Tex_Nick> kunji : i think that sale ends at midnight tonight in the us pacific time ... i just got a WD 2TB drive for $85 a couple hours ago :)
[05:10] <kunji> Ends in a little under 3 hours
[05:11] <GeekSquid> Tex_Nick: blue or green?
[05:11] <iknofailfu> do they ship it worldwide?
[05:11] <zykotick9> Ben64: also be aware, that the "fix" for proceeding with a partial upgrade is often reinstall
[05:12] <kunji> iknofailfu: Hmm, I'm not sure actually.
[05:12] <Tex_Nick> GeekSquid:  green ... and the user feedback was BAD only 3 stars ... i hope that was due to techo-wennies ;-)
[05:13] <GeekSquid> Tex_Nick: sorry to say I only buy blue... or better if the client can afford it
[05:13] <iknofailfu> kunji, could u please tell me again where is it? broke my eyes to find it above
[05:14] <kunji> iknofailfu: http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Feb-0-2013/Mardigras12/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-GD021313&cm_mmc=EMC-GD021313-_-index-_-topBanner-_-MardiGars48HRs-EB1  Does that work, I got it through an e-mail promo, not sure if they cross check that.
[05:14] <Tex_Nick> GeekSquid: yeah ... the box i'm on now boots from a 1TB WD blue ... drive i ordered is for personal data :)
[05:14] <iknofailfu> kunji, thank you
[05:14] <kunji> I got a dead blue drive not long ago, that and the SSD were both opened, I'm pretty sure the feds check all the mail to and from my house -_-
[05:15] <kunji> At least Newegg gave me a full refund including shipping, so that was good of them.
[05:16] <GeekSquid> see weren't we just talking ssd's ... $129 for a 120 gig laptop drive from intel, or 89 from samsung cheap
[05:16] <iknofailfu> kunji, do u think they have their reasons? lol
[05:17] <lasers> kunji: Checking or replacing? ;)
[05:17] <Tex_Nick> kunji : newegg is good bout that ... return postage/freight is no fun ...
[05:17] <Tex_Nick> we the people rise up in the support of kunj's freedome !!! ;-)
[05:18] <kunji> iknofailfu: Not really, they have superficial reasons, like that my dad is from Qatar, and I run a home VPN, stuff like that, but my records spotless ^_^
[05:18] <iknofailfu> once upon a time i bought some fine whiskey bottle on ebay for only 349$ and it was stolen on the way to my lands by ukranian customs abviously :D
[05:18] <iknofailfu> o*
[05:18] <kunji> lasers: Not sure, but I did my low level formats on the SSD, and the other drive got returned, so oh well.
[05:19] <iknofailfu> formats and ssd is a long and sad story in context of data privacy
[05:20] <iknofailfu> it should be encrypted on start, unfortunately dm-crypt drops performance to zero
[05:20] <kunji> iknofailfu: dd works wonders ^_^
[05:20] <iknofailfu> nope
[05:21] <kunji> iknofailfu: Hmm?  For preventing any code that was on the disk from being able to run, it should do the job.  Now for preventing my data from being read, that's a different story
[05:22] <lasers> kunji: Secret FED technology -- Wireless dd -- Only works with FED hard drives in which they replaced yours with theirs.
[05:22] <iknofailfu> kunji, oh, that sounds fair
[05:22] <simpson_> does anybody here know about PelicanHPC?
[05:22] <kunji> lasers: lol, I hope they haven't got that yet, but all that's on the drive is OS files anyway
[05:23] <simpson_> because I need to know what kind of software you can run on the slave nodes
[05:24] <kunji> simpson_: Well, it's Debian based, so most anything.  Job performance will really depend on how parallel the code can be made.
[05:25] <GeekSquid> simpson_: what are you trying to do? math? parallell proc? something proprietary?
[05:25] <Tex_Nick> lasers:  shhhhhh ... man don't be giv'n em ideas ;-)
[05:25] <simpson_> I mean can I run say any normal code like a web browser distrobuted? I dont want several instances on each node, I want for the "job" to be split into parts for each node.
[05:25] <kunji> simpson_: The jobs for the cluster will need to be custom written, you won't just be taking something and throwing it on any cluster and be expecting it to partition itself.
[05:26] <simpson_> alright haha
[05:26] <kunji> simpson_: Yeah, you'll need to do some modification on say the Apache code base, but that can be done
[05:26] <simpson_> what about just selecting a single job for each node, like one node running apache, another mysql etc..
[05:26] <simpson_> or load balancing
[05:26] <kunji> simpson_: For that you don't even need them working as a cluster
[05:27] <simpson_> I am doing this mostly for fun.. I also want to run some servers.. haha
[05:27] <simpson_> do you think it has software to manage it kinda like proxmox or KVM?
[05:28] <kunji> simpson_: Hmm, well, if it's mostly for fun, have you seen the raspberry pi supercomputer?
[05:28] <simpson_> yes
[05:28] <simpson_> I have a raspberry pi with me right now
[05:29] <simpson_> but I got 4 good laptops I am not using..
[05:29]  * cfhowlett thinks "Raspberry is now a "super" computer???"
[05:29] <kunji> simpson_: Yeah, their setup is documented here: http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_supercomputer_southampton.htm
[05:29] <simpson_> I saw that link before
[05:29] <iknofailfu> there was a "paralella" kickstarter project u might wanna look at also
[05:30] <kunji> Isn't there something called a ROCKS cluster, maybe that would be good?
[05:30] <simpson_> well when I am distrobuting a task, do you think I could run my master as a node too... like use computational power of my master aswell as all the other nodes?
[05:31] <simpson_> I've never done this before
[05:31] <kunji> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocks_Cluster_Distribution
[05:31] <krypto> Is it possible to create bootable Ubuntu 12.04 xen pv iso? i have downloaded kernel  and ramdisk what else is required to make it a bootable xen pv iso?
[05:32] <kunji> Whoops... I think we've all been letting ourselves get off track.. we should have been in ubuntu-offtopic
[05:32] <elena-IK> Problem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that keybinding stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. dr_willis_ asked if this happens for all users: to check I created a second user and disabled autologin. Now the keybinding worked fine for _both_ users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keyb
[05:32] <elena-IK> inding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works. Then I disabled autologin again, and again it worked fine for both users. Any ideas? Possible workaround: is there a way to set such compiz options from command line / from an autostart script?
[05:33] <theperfectpunk> hello
[05:33] <Ronce> hey
[05:33] <theperfectpunk> i tried installing a package
[05:33] <Sazpaimon> I have a failing 1TB MBR drive that I want to recover to a 3TB drive, but I want the 3TB drive to be GPT
[05:33] <theperfectpunk> it failed to installed
[05:33] <Sazpaimon> what would be the procedure to do this?
[05:34] <theperfectpunk> now i am getting an error for that package everytime i try to install a new package
[05:34] <theperfectpunk> is there workaround for this
[05:34] <Sazpaimon> I know I could just ddrescue the MBR drive to the 3TB drive, but that would copy the MBR partition layout, which I do not want
[05:34] <theperfectpunk> ?
[05:34] <kunji> elena-IK: If you know the commands to set the keybindings you can put them in a file names .xprofile in your home folder, I think that would do the trick.
[05:35] <kunji> Sazpaimon: Is there another drive you could copy too temporarily?
[05:35] <GeekSquid> theperfectpunk: you need to update so the packages will install
[05:35] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: see if "sudo apt-get -f install" removes it
[05:35] <Sazpaimon> kunji, no there is not
[05:35] <Sazpaimon> and I would prefer to not have to mount the volumes on the drive because of the fact that it is failing
[05:35] <Sazpaimon> if possible I'd like to use ddrescue
[05:35] <kunji> Sazpaimon: Or you can just go ahead and make the 3 TB gpt, but then ddrescue to an iso on that drive, then mount that and copy off the data.
[05:36] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk, did you get an error message?  and how did you attempt installation?  software center or terminal?
[05:36] <Tex_Nick> simpson_:  the people over at hak5.org were doing some interseting projects with rasberry cluster a while ago ...
[05:36] <theperfectpunk> after sudo apt-get -f instal it's giving the same error
[05:36] <theperfectpunk> got a deb file
[05:36] <theperfectpunk> synatptics touchpad driver
[05:36] <simpson_> I am not planning on a raspberry cluster.
[05:36] <theperfectpunk> tried to install it using ubntu software center
[05:37] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk, the command to install a deb is not apt-get.  It's sudo dpkg packagename.deg -i
[05:37] <theperfectpunk> sudo-apt-get -f install returning the ame error
[05:37] <Sazpaimon> kunji, so make a 1TB partition on the drive, copy the 1TB disk over as an image, bind mount it, create partitions on the other 2TB of the drive copy the data over, delete the 1TB partition, and extend the other partitions as needed?
[05:37] <Sazpaimon> that's just crazy enough to work
[05:37] <kunji> simpson_: I know, I just thought some of it might be applicable.  Look up Beowulf clusters as well
[05:37] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk, dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:37] <theperfectpunk> i installed the deb file using ubuntu software center
[05:37] <theperfectpunk> it did not install
[05:38] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk, oh, ok.  what is the exact error message returned?
[05:38] <simpson_> I have.. I tried to build a MPI one once but it has different architectures and operating systems and they couldnt communicate.. couldnt set up RSH and RLOGIN properly
[05:38] <theperfectpunk> i'll give u a pastebin
[05:38] <theperfectpunk> wait
[05:38] <dr_willis> synapstic drivers should be allready included.  what did you download from where?
[05:39] <kunji> Sazpaimon: Nah, a little less complicated.  Format the whole thing as 3 TB gpt drive.  And iso file is in fact a block device, so you can copy the 1 TB to an iso file located on the 3 TB drive.  Then you can mount the iso file as a loopback device and just copy off the files.
[05:39] <kunji> *An, not and
[05:39] <theperfectpunk> actually there is a button in the corner of the touchpad which turns it off
[05:39] <theperfectpunk> it's not working nor is the led
[05:39] <Sazpaimon> kunji, well the original drive has multiple partitions which I would like to retain on the 3TB drive
[05:39] <dr_willis> but the touchpad works?
[05:39] <Tex_Nick> simpson : i just looked ... looks like that project has migrated into a virtualization clusters with proxmox ... http://hak5.org/it/virtualization-cluster-for-under-1000 ...
[05:39] <Sazpaimon> just, you know, larger
[05:40] <kunji> Sazpaimon: But you want it to be gpt?  Hmm, that gets complicated I think
[05:40] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/svSUvtNY
[05:40] <iknofailfu> why not to dd the partition to 3tb drive and extend it later
[05:40] <theperfectpunk> yeah it works but no multi touch support
[05:40] <Sazpaimon> kunji, to be specific, the 1TB drive has 4 partitions, and I want 1 partition to go on a 500GB drive as MBR, and the other 3 go to the 3TB drive
[05:40] <kunji> iknofailfu: Because his original is not gpt and he wants the 3 TB drive to be gpt
[05:40] <Sazpaimon> why won't my idea work?
[05:41] <Sazpaimon> just make a 1TB drive image, mount it, and copy the files over to new partitions on the 3TB drive, then extend them?
[05:41] <kunji> Sazpaimon: wait, what the, a 500 GB MBR!??!?!?
[05:41] <Sazpaimon> kunji, yeah I should have specified that
[05:41] <Sazpaimon> the 500GB drive is going to be the OS drive, since it'd be silly to have that on a 3TB drive
[05:42] <theperfectpunk> how to remove this error guys
[05:42] <theperfectpunk> turns up everytime i try to install a package
[05:42] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/svSUvtNY
[05:42] <Sazpaimon> so the OS partition on the 1TB will go onto that drive
[05:43] <kunji> Sazpaimon: Oh, well both drives will have their own MBRs.  Thing is, it sounds like you want to do file level copies instead of block level.  If you do the block level copy you will not end up with a gpt drive
[05:43] <Sazpaimon> right
[05:43] <Sazpaimon> i'll make a block level copy of the entire drive to an image on the 3TB drive
[05:43] <iknofailfu> theperfectpunk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1738264
[05:43] <Sazpaimon> then do file-level copies from that image to other partitions on the 3TB
[05:43] <kunji> Sazpaimon: So I think you should still do it similar to what I suggested, but partition the 3 TB how you want it first.
[05:43] <kunji> Yeah
[05:44] <simpson_> http://www.dirigibleflightcraft.com/CbN/ seems like the only thing that will work unless I want to just install ubuntu on all of them and set it up manually.. I am not using a separate network specifically for the cluster.
[05:44] <kunji> Err, but block level to the iso file
[05:44] <Sazpaimon> right
[05:44] <kunji> Sazpaimon: Yeah, I think it should work.
[05:44] <Sazpaimon> now, question, if I have an image file of the 1TB drive, and that iso file has multiple partitions, how do I mount them seperately
[05:45] <Sazpaimon> do I need to know the offsets and feed them to mount explicitly?
[05:45] <simpson_> I need a GUI though
[05:45] <kunji> Sazpaimon: You don't, but you won't need to at that point because after that it's file level copies you  need right?
[05:45] <iknofailfu> but in case u're interested google knows for sure
[05:45] <Sazpaimon> kunji, well, I'll have this ISO file with the entire 1TB drive on it, how will I be able to mount the partitions on that ISO to get to the files to copy them over?
[05:45] <lasers> Why not a separate small hard drive for OS alone?
[05:46] <dr_willis> !iso
[05:46] <Sazpaimon> dr_willis, the ISO will have multiple partitions on it
[05:46] <iknofailfu> Sazpaimon, http://rentageekla.com/2010/10/27/how-to-mount-an-iso-that-contains-multiple-partitions/
[05:46] <younder> you need to specify the file formatting also
[05:46] <Sazpaimon> okay, so I was right, I'll need specify the offsets explicitly
[05:46] <Sazpaimon> that's ok
[05:47] <dr_willis> sounds to me like its a hd image.. not an iso file
[05:47] <Sazpaimon> dr_jesus, it is a HD image, I was saying iso file because that's what kunji was calling it and I didn't want to cause any confusion
[05:47] <Sazpaimon> which I ended up doing anyway, lol
[05:47] <kunji> dr_willis: Well, it is an hd image, in an iso file :P
[05:47] <lasers> Sazpaimon: You could ddrescue each partitions. Seems easier than dding the whole thing.
[05:48] <Sazpaimon> yeah, that'd work too
[05:48] <kunji> Sazpaimon: Yeah lasers suggestion should be a lot easier
[05:48] <sam_> anyone know how i can setup 2 WAN links with automatic fail-over support?
[05:48] <dr_willis> dding a hd to a file and renameing it foo.iso    is NOT an iso file
[05:48] <cfhowlett> sam_, pretty advanced question ... perhaps better asked in #ubuntu-server   ???
[05:48] <kunji> sam_: I want to say heartbeat, but it's been a while, I don't remember well
[05:49] <intelligentfool> is trace route normally preinstalled on a standard 12.04 image?
[05:49] <sam_> hmm.. thanks
[05:49] <intelligentfool> traceroute6 was, but v4 wasn't…. just curious
[05:49] <kunji> intelligentfool: I think it's not, but the GUI network tools does a trace route with something, not sure what it uses
[05:49] <iknofailfu> Sazpaimon, before u will bury the hard drive that was responsible for all that hell, consider using free "mhdd" utility which is simple, free, works and saved me tons of cash for buying new hdds
[05:49] <Tex_Nick> intelligentfool:  i don't think it is
[05:50] <intelligentfool> is there a reason it's not preinstalled? and v6 is?
[05:50] <intelligentfool> seems silly
[05:50] <kunji> intelligentfool: Does v6 happen to also do v4?
[05:51] <intelligentfool> heh, didn't try
[05:51] <Sazpaimon> alright, so here's the plan: 1. Make 1 partition on the 500GB drive, 2. Make 4 partitions on the 3TB drive, with one of them being about 1TB. 3. On the 1TB drive, ddrescue partitions 1-4 to the 1TB partition on the 3TB drive 4. loopback mount each partition. 5. copy files from partition 1 to the 500GB drive. 6. Copy files from partitions 2-4 to partitions 1-3 on the 3TB drive. 7. Delete the 1TB partiti
[05:51] <Sazpaimon> on on the 3TB drive 8. Extend partitions 1-3 as needed
[05:51] <Sazpaimon> phew
[05:51] <intelligentfool> kunji, "unknown host"
[05:52] <kunji> intelligentfool: Hmm, the GUI does ipv4 with something, sorry I don't know what
[05:52] <intelligentfool> eh, i was just raising the point in case there's any ubuntu dev's in here
[05:52] <intelligentfool> i'm guessing it was left out accidentally
[05:52] <unreal__> what point
[05:53] <intelligentfool> trace route is a standard diagnostic tool, its like not including ping or something
[05:53] <kunji> intelligentfool: Hmm, I'm not so sure about that, I don't remember it being in by default for a while now.
[05:53] <iknofailfu> u may need ping6 also hah
[05:54] <unreal__> so someone tell me this....why is it when you run out of hard drive space does the computer just crash????
[05:54] <Tex_Nick> intelligentfool:  i had to specifically install it on 12.10
[05:54] <unreal__> i had to go into terminal and delete a few things to get my computer to boot up again. bullshit
[05:54] <intelligentfool> apt-get install traceroute is easy enough,  just odd. i'm done complaining :)
[05:54] <cfhowlett> unreal__, so long as processes can run in ram, no crash ...
[05:54] <unreal__> right??
[05:55] <unreal__> try it sometime
[05:55] <unreal__> i was thinking because it had no more pagefile it could have but i dont really know much about computers
[05:55] <Tex_Nick> intelligentfool:  i was of the same opinion ???
[05:55] <iknofailfu> still complaining about crashes
[05:55] <intelligentfool> Tex_Nick, i wasn't responding to you, sorry
[05:55] <lasers> unreal__: I'll say to install htop to see CPU/RAM/etc -- but I'm afraid you won't have room for that.
[05:56] <unreal__> I did the same thing last year and had to reinstall ubuntu well i did it again tonight and I actually tried deleting a couple things and VOILA it booted back up
[05:56] <unreal__> htop?
[05:56] <lasers> htop.
[05:56] <unreal__> I have 2 gigs now. i found out deleting packages clears up a whole lotta space
[05:57] <unreal__> apt=get install htop???
[05:57] <aeon-ltd> - not =
[05:57] <dr_willis> cleaning the cache help free up space
[05:57] <unreal__> ya
[05:57] <simpson_> Hey do you guys know if its possible to run PelicanHPC without a dedicated LAN? I basically want to run it on my normal WiFi.
[05:58] <dr_willis> whats pelicanhpc?
[05:58] <iknofailfu> parallel computing over wifi sounds strange
[05:58] <unreal__> is there a gui version of htop?
[05:59] <intelligentfool> i wasn't paying attention, what's htop?
[05:59] <dr_willis> xterm -e  htop            ;-)
[05:59] <unreal__> shows processes
[05:59] <lasers> unreal__: Meh. Use htop. It's all it is, just stats to look at.
[05:59] <iknofailfu> like top
[05:59] <atlef> htop is nice
[05:59] <unreal__> is there a gui htop
[05:59] <aeon-ltd> wut
[05:59] <simpson_> grrr ill do it over wifi anyway
[06:00] <dr_willis> no need fro a gui htop. ;-)
[06:00] <unreal__> is there a nice pretty version of htop or task manager
[06:00] <iknofailfu> it won't work for it's main purpose over wifi i suspect
[06:00] <lasers> htop is pretty.
[06:00] <unreal__> I just wanted to put it in my unity bar
[06:00] <dr_willis> there other process monitor tools in the repos
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> unreal__: if you set colors in bash, htop is very pretty
[06:00] <unreal__> cuz ill forget what its called
[06:00] <dr_willis> xterm -e  htop             make a script that runs this.....
[06:00] <unreal__> it is rather nice stock
[06:00] <unreal__> teal
[06:01] <dr_willis> or make a gnome-terminal profile that runs it
[06:01] <unreal__> is there a command to do that
[06:01] <zykotick9> dr_willis: sidenote - xterm is weak.  urxvt is a much better terminal, while still being 'light'
[06:01] <unreal__> make a terminal profile?
[06:02] <dr_willis> phhhr.. you kids these days..
[06:02] <dr_willis> ;-)
[06:02] <dr_willis> gnome-terminal has prifiles yes..
[06:02] <kunji> Huh, I can't find documentation on gnome-nettool, people seem to be under the impression that it uses traceroute, but I think it may actually use tracepath, considering that it works, but traceroute is not installed on my system.
[06:03] <iknofailfu> you people writing smileys with `-` calling someone kids these days..
[06:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: "kids", i wish.  i'm almost 40 :(..
[06:03] <cfhowlett> kunji, perhaps this question is better off in #ubuntu-server   ????
[06:03] <unreal__> awww
[06:03] <unreal__> im 28
[06:04] <dr_willis> i got shoes older then that....
[06:04] <dr_willis> get off my lawn!
[06:04] <unreal__> HAHA
[06:04] <iknofailfu> yeah and i wear my granpa's pantalons
[06:04] <zykotick9> lol
[06:04] <kunji> cfhowlett: Hmm, was more of a comment on intelligentfool's question, that is, I think traceroute is not installed by default because tracepath does the job.
[06:04] <dr_willis> suspenders  AND a belt   here..
[06:04] <unreal__> is anybody here a programmer?
[06:05] <aeon-ltd> unreal__: progammer in what?
[06:05] <unreal__> python or any language really
[06:05] <intelligentfool> tracepath eh
[06:05] <kunji> unreal__: programmer is pretty broad, also sounds like something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:05] <intelligentfool> tmyk
[06:05] <dr_willis> bbl.
[06:05] <unreal__> is this room for a specific topic?
[06:06] <kunji> unreal__: Yep, Ubuntu support.
[06:06] <cfhowlett> unreal__, ubuntu support here please
[06:06] <unreal__> what are some rooms I can just chat in?
[06:06] <cfhowlett> !ot|unreal__,
[06:06] <Tex_Nick> unreal__:  try #programming or ##c
[06:06] <unreal__> ok thanks!
[06:07] <Sazpaimon> oh, another question regarding this transfer. Since the filesystem on these drives is NTFS, will ntfs-3g retail permissions on those files if I copy them over to another drive?
[06:07] <Sazpaimon> s/retail/retain
[06:07] <intelligentfool> awesome, i'd never heard of tracepath, seems like traceroute but with MTU's. yay
[06:07] <Sazpaimon> like, if I copy the OS partition from one drive to another, will all the file permissions and attributes remain the same?
[06:08] <iknofailfu> using dd - yes?
[06:08] <Sazpaimon> no, using a plain file copy
[06:08] <enix0r> tracepath relies on PMTUD which requires ICMP unreachables as a warning.  Unfortunatly a good number of systems still block ICMP unreachables.
[06:08] <iknofailfu> what is the target fs
[06:08] <Sazpaimon> ntfs
[06:08] <iknofailfu> and source is?
[06:08] <Sazpaimon> ntfs
[06:08] <iknofailfu> should work
[06:09] <Sazpaimon> ok, so a cp -r would be the same as, say robocopy /MIR /COPYALL /SEC in windows
[06:09] <iknofailfu> i assume yes but without fragmentation
[06:09] <Sazpaimon> understandably
[06:09] <iknofailfu> but i'm not sure honestly
[06:10] <intelligentfool> enix0r, a good number of systems block ICMP unreachables?
[06:10] <intelligentfool> like what?
[06:10] <Sazpaimon> I'll double check with the ntfs-3g devs
[06:10] <intelligentfool> i believe they're turned on for cisco, juniper, etc by default
[06:10] <enix0r> back in early 2000 blocking icmp unreachables was actually recommended to protect the control plane of routers
[06:11] <Sazpaimon> actually there's no ntfs-3g channel, oops
[06:11] <enix0r> this was before control plane policing policies were avaiable
[06:11] <intelligentfool> enix0r, yea, that sounds about right, so yea, could be some legacy stuff still out there
[06:11] <enix0r> yeah I have run across a fair number in EMEA and APAC
[06:11] <intelligentfool> i found a box with 8.5 yr uptime on my network :)
[06:11] <enix0r> mostly eastern block countries
[06:14] <enix0r> intelligentfool, nice 8.5 years uptime is impressive.  What platform?
[06:15] <iknofailfu> my bet its *bsd
[06:15] <enix0r> hey maybe it's Windows ME!
[06:15] <iknofailfu> no
[06:15] <enix0r> haha
[06:15] <kepler> solaris?
[06:15] <intelligentfool> enix0r, i think it was a cisco 2611 or 2612
[06:15] <iknofailfu> :///
[06:16] <enix0r> those guys are workhorses, I haven't run into one of those in quite a few years now
[06:16] <intelligentfool> yea, they never die
[06:16] <enix0r> The 2800 series ISRs did a really good job of kicking those off networks
[06:16] <iknofailfu> met freebsd with 2 years 8 months of uptime
[06:21] <krypto>  Is it possible to create bootable ubuntu 12.04 xen pv iso? i have downloaded kernel  and ramdisk what else is required to make it a bootable xen pv iso
[06:24] <kunji> krypto: xen pv?  What's that now?
[06:24] <isr45> ...
[06:24] <krypto> xen para virtual machine
[06:26] <lasers> unreal__: Look into bleachbit too. (delete unnecessary files from the system
[06:26] <isr45> what's the use of w! in vi editor ?
[06:27] <kepler> iirc write, without asking about overwriting
[06:27] <isr45> even if the user doesn't have write options he can still make changes to the file with w!.
[06:27] <kepler> no
[06:28] <ivotkl> Night, I'm going to bed. Take care.
[06:28] <kepler> night
[06:29] <iknofailfu> we can read u a story
[06:35] <wiggmpk> is it NOT possible to hide join/depart messages with empathy? I mean I know there isnt an option readily available, does anyone have a hack for it?
[06:35] <simpson_> installing ubuntu onto 5 computers right now.. xD
[06:35] <Es0teric> if a user is already part of two groups, how do you add that user into another group?
[06:36] <Es0teric> to make a total of 3 groups
[06:36] <zykotick9> Es0teric: "sudo adduser USERNAME GROUPNAME"
[06:36] <Es0teric> zykotick9 i am talking about an existing user
[06:36] <Es0teric> not a new user
[06:36] <zykotick9> Es0teric: so am i!
[06:36] <Es0teric> ok
[06:38] <zykotick9> Es0teric: it quite common for people to use usermod, and use it incorrectly, and thus loose all groups EXECPT the one they're adding (which is bad).  using adduser is a lot saver.
[06:38] <Es0teric> yeah, i see zykotick9
[06:38] <Es0teric> also, zykotick9 i get this error -> Error -125: remote chdir failed
[06:38] <Es0teric> when trying to go to a directory in my IDE
[06:39] <zykotick9> Es0teric: cant help with that - no clue what that is.
[06:39] <xjsuw7> lol @simpson_
[06:39] <xjsuw7> i love this
[06:40] <pinky> Hi, I just installed Xchat.
[06:40] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: if your curious, the correct usermod way would be "usermod -a -G <groupname> <username>"
[06:40] <xjsuw7> so bored figure i just come on in bored to high heaven
[06:40] <xjsuw7> hi pinky
[06:40] <Es0teric> wiggmpk i know why now
[06:40] <Es0teric> chmod permissions were wrong
[06:40] <xjsuw7> u da pinky frm friday?
[06:40] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: whats important here is the capital -G, I believe thats what zykotick9 was referring to.. lower case g would change the group instead of add
[06:41] <pinky> Nope.
[06:41] <Es0teric> wiggmpk i tried that
[06:41] <Es0teric> but it didnt work forme
[06:41] <Es0teric> *for me
[06:41] <xjsuw7> say waht one more time!
[06:41] <Es0teric> only useradd worked
[06:41] <FloodBot1> Es0teric: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:41] <pinky> what's a floodbot
[06:41] <Es0teric> yeah i got to get rid of that habit >.>
[06:42] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: were you using "sudo"
[06:42] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: with usermod i mean
[06:42] <Es0teric> wiggmpk, yes i was
[06:42] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: interesting
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> pinky: a bot the channel uses to prevent spamming [flooding]
[06:43] <pinky> Goodbye.
[06:43] <Es0teric> is it possible to chmod multiple directories?
[06:44] <simpson_> %#&%&^
[06:44] <simpson_> faulty hdd/disk
[06:44] <simpson_> installation crashed
[06:45] <simpson_> ffuuuu D:
[06:45] <xjsuw7> lol
[06:45] <xjsuw7> that always sucks
[06:45] <simpson_> *dies*
[06:46] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: i never tried it before, but you might be able to just list all the directories after each other
[06:46] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: like "chmod ### /etc/something /etc/someone /etc/somewhere"
[06:47] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: unless your trying to change a directory and all files and sub-directories under the main directory
[06:47] <Es0teric> wiggmpk yes i am
[06:48] <Es0teric> i am trying to do -R
[06:48] <wiggmpk> Es0teric: then your doing it right
[06:48] <Es0teric> alright, cool
[06:53] <shoot> hello
[06:53] <aeon-ltd> hi
[06:54] <shoot> Has Ubuntu been created from Debian live CD or from the Direct Installer ?
[06:55] <zykotick9> debian-live isn't a "real" debian project.  ubuntu's live is at this point, it's own thing - i doubt it's based on anything anymore.  certainly the mini, is based off debian's netinst.
[06:56] <wiggmpk> shoot: the non-LTS release of Ubuntu are from the Debian Unstable branch.. is all I know
[06:57] <iceroot> wiggmpk: every ubuntu release is from testing/unstable
[06:57] <shoot> yeah
[06:58] <wiggmpk> iceroot: I suppose technically thats accurate
[06:59] <shoot> But Ubuntu has modified the Debian installer.iso or the Live CD
[07:01] <zykotick9> shoot: debian install cd's aren't LiveCD, so it couldn't possibly be based of that.  the mini.iso is based of debian installer.
[07:01] <makara> how can I see current file operations? It doesn't show up as a window in Docky?
[07:01] <makara> I'm moving a whole lot of files, but the dialog isn't visible anymore
[07:04] <shoot> zykotick9, How the Ubuntu Live CD created?
[07:05] <zykotick9> shoot: no idea.
[07:05] <wiggmpk> !ubiquity
[07:05] <shoot> ah
[07:05] <shoot> That is the script to install Ubuntu on HDD
[07:05] <cfhowlett> shoot, history of ubuntu is available somewhere.  Pretty sure some archive has the development details for what it's worth.
[07:05] <Tex_Nick> makara : you've probably checked, but if not ... see if it's on another workspace/minimized
[07:06] <zykotick9> !remaster | shoot
[07:06] <makara> Tex_Nick, not there. It just disappeared, but won't let me remove the drive
[07:08] <makara> it would be great to have a Unity plugin that shows all file transfer (files, dropbox, torrent, firefox download)
[07:08] <makara> bit difficult to implement
[07:09] <zykotick9> makara: when you use Microsoft software what do you expect?  docky is mono garbage (personal opinion only!)
[07:09] <makara> zykotick9, are we talking about the same docky?
[07:10] <zykotick9> makara: yes.  it's mono based that's MS's .net
[07:10] <zykotick9> makara: see "apt-cache depends docky" and see the libmono listed
[07:12] <makara> zykotick9, what does docky have to do with the disappearance of Ubuntu's file transfer dialog?
[07:12] <zykotick9> makara: perhaps nothing!  i though it disappeared from docky.
[07:13] <makara> it disappeared period
[07:13] <wiggmpk> are you sure it just isnt finished?
[07:14] <zykotick9> makara: if you want to know if it's still copying, you could install the terminal based iotop then run it using "sudo iotop" to see if stuff is still moving
[07:16] <Cebo> Hello
[07:17] <Tex_Nick> makara : see if this will help ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924417
[07:17] <makara> zykotick9, I know its still copying but I want to see the progress
[07:18] <zykotick9> makara: that i can't help with... good luck.
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Cebo, greetings
[07:18] <iceroot> what is the best way to check an empty hdd (no fs) if everything is fine with the hdd?
[07:18] <zykotick9> iceroot: smartctl
[07:18] <iceroot> zykotick9: that is only reading the smart-status?
[07:19] <zykotick9> iceroot: yes
[07:19] <zykotick9> iceroot: can also run tests
[07:19] <iceroot> zykotick9: bad sectors are not part of the smart status?
[07:19] <iceroot> zykotick9: ah ok, sounds good, i will have a look, thank you
[07:19] <zykotick9> iceroot: not sure...
[07:20] <iceroot> zykotick9: my try was "dd if=/dev/zero" of=..." and then dd if=/dev/sdx/ ..." but that will take ages
[07:20] <mvt007geek> hello
[07:21] <cfhowlett> mvt007geek, greetigns
[07:23] <mvt007geek>  i am using ubuntu on pandaboard. i am using a serial port to do my workes on it. i used nano to write on a file (by gtkterm serial port) but after i wanted to save that by ^o or exit by ^x none worked
[07:24] <mvt007geek> it seems i am in a prison and can't get free
[07:24] <mvt007geek> :(
[07:24] <mvt007geek> it's urgent. can someone tell me  what the problem is?!!
[07:25] <somsip> mvt007geek: you have used CTRL-O and CTRL-X haven't you?
[07:25] <mvt007geek> yes
[07:26] <somsip> mvt007geek: permissions to wite the file are okay?
[07:27] <mvt007geek> don't know. but if i don't have permisssion it just won't save it. but it will let me exit. won't it?
[07:27] <somsip> mvt007geek: CTRL-X and confirm to lose changes normally
[07:28] <mvt007geek> somsip:  when  i use ^o to save or when i use ^x to exit it just show me a little window that contain a button (configurayion) amd under that button wrote default.
[07:28] <mvt007geek> *configuration
[07:28] <mvt007geek> *and
[07:29] <somsip> mvt007geek: I'm not sure what you mean then. I don't use nano often. Maybe you'll just have to kill nano
[07:30] <lasers> What file are you editing?
[07:31] <xjsuw7> im bored looking for something fun to do
[07:31] <cfhowlett> xjsuw7, are you sure #ubuntu computer support is the channel you're looking for????
[07:31] <mvt007geek> somsip: my problem is exactly this. i am working with serial port and i only have commandline. the only way  to kill or anything else is exiting from nano
[07:31] <xjsuw7> yea
[07:32] <mvt007geek> xjsuw7: so help me :D
[07:32] <xjsuw7> yup trying to learn some things
[07:32] <cfhowlett> xjsuw7, if you have a specific support query to ask ...
[07:32] <xjsuw7> hmm
[07:33] <cfhowlett> !contribute|xjsuw7
[07:33] <mvt007geek> Lasers a text file. i made it by "touch command"
[07:33] <mvt007geek> LaserS
[07:33] <xjsuw7> i have problems here and there... just hanging around trying to learn some new things for real
[07:34] <lasers> mvt007geek: And then what?
[07:34] <xjsuw7> biggest thing wanna learn to write scripts and python  and stuff
[07:34] <haidou> Hello
[07:34] <xjsuw7> hello
[07:35] <mvt007geek> what? i told evry thing.read my former sentences plz
[07:35] <mvt007geek> *every
[07:35] <cfhowlett> haidou, greetings
[07:35] <haidou> I'm looking for help on theme installation. Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:36] <haidou> Can someone help me?
[07:36] <lasers> mvt007geek: Try 'xrefresh' ?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> xjsuw7, #python #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:36] <lasers> mvt007geek: 'reset' ?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !ask|haidou,   what's the problem
[07:37] <mvt007geek> Lasers reset pandaboard? but it won't help.again when i use nano or other editors the problem remain
[07:37] <haidou> Is their an order to this type of chat?
[07:38] <bazhang> haidou, ask an actual question, all on one line
[07:38] <haidou> Ahh
[07:38] <somsip> mvt007geek: but you could check the permissions before editing it...
[07:38] <lasers> mvt007geek: Type 'reset' in the terminal. Try that?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> haidou for best results, state your hardware, what version of ubuntu, what you tried/failed to do and what you thought would happen.  Error messages and screenshots help as well
[07:39] <lasers> Videos help too.
[07:41] <zykotick9> mvt007geek: are you a member of the dialout group?  you "might" require it for proper serial permissions.  somsip
[07:42] <mvt007geek> zykotick9: yes. i choosed dialout group
[07:42] <zykotick9> mvt007geek: ok, just checking.
[07:46] <mooshroom> i need help involving desktop settings
[07:46] <mooshroom> I went to reset my computer and it froze up restarting
[07:46] <cfhowlett> mooshroom, before or after login?
[07:46] <mooshroom> after
[07:47] <mooshroom> but
[07:47] <mooshroom> i started it back up again
[07:47] <cfhowlett> mooshroom, try this; logout/login but use a different Desktop Enviromnet
[07:47] <mooshroom> it said it couldnt find /tmp to do disk check
[07:47] <haidou> This is macbook 4.1 Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T8300 @ 2.40GHz × 2. The mac os x has been deleted (by choice.) I am now running ubuntu 12.10. I have been trying to install a theme using various command line prompts, from different sources on the Internet to no avail.  I just want to know how to install gnome shelll 3.6,  Gtk 3, and then to install a theme of my choice.
[07:48] <mooshroom> when it loaded through there was no background, sidebar changed and the entire folder the background was gone
[07:48] <mooshroom> im most concerned about the folder
[07:48] <mooshroom> but k
[07:48] <mooshroom> i will try that
[07:48] <cfhowlett> haidou, try the software center ...
[07:48] <haidou> for which part?
[07:49] <Kartagis> why does flash keep crashing on firefox?
[07:50] <lasers> Kartagis: Run firefox without flash. No crash? Blame flash.
[07:51] <tad-pole> Plz tel comman 4 hax plan et ubuntu!?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, in english please?
[07:52] <tad-pole> Just being stupid. Do not mind me. :)
[07:52]  * cfhowlett sends tad-pole a digital smack upside the head...
[07:52] <tad-pole> >:)
[07:52] <tad-pole> That was english on dalnet. :/
[07:53] <haidou> How do I check which version of Gnome Shell I have?
[07:53] <wiggmpk> haidou: gnome-shell --version
[07:54] <haidou> That worked thanks.
[07:54] <wiggmpk> np
[07:55] <elena-IK> is there a way to change compiz settings (keybindings especially) from command line?
[07:56] <mvt007geek> how can i write a file into pandaboard via serialport?
[07:56] <mvt007geek> pandaboard has ubuntu
[07:57] <haidou> How do I install a theme on Gnome Shell 3.6.2?
[07:57] <wiggmpk> haidou: do you have gnome-tweak-tool?
[07:57] <haidou> I will download it now.
[07:57] <somsip> mvt007geek: what user are you logging in as on the PB?
[07:58] <haidou> any particular version?
[07:58] <mvt007geek> i can be root via sudo command
[07:58] <wiggmpk> haidou: a compatible one
[07:58] <somsip> mvt007geek: so what guide have you followed to get this far?
[07:59] <wiggmpk> haidou: i couldnt tell you which version.. I used 12.04 which doesnt have Gnome Shell 3.6 available
[07:59] <mvt007geek> somsip: in panda they only get me one user and one pass .
[07:59] <haidou> Aahhh
[07:59] <somsip> mvt007geek: and what guide have you followed to get this far?
[08:00] <mvt007geek> somsip: what do you mean?
[08:00] <wiggmpk> haidou: you'll need the user theme extension too.. again, I cant really tell you how to get it either cause I use 12.04
[08:00] <wiggmpk> haidou: where did you install gnome-shell from? a PPA or some guide online?
[08:00] <paines> after updating my system via dist-upgrade,  my xen host dosen't start any more. the xen-less kernel starts fine. it looks the boot process can't chroot to the root partition. it seems like the driver for sda or my chipset is missing. this worked before. sda/sdb are all not listed in /proc/partitions. any idea ?
[08:00] <haidou> I dont know
[08:00] <somsip> mvt007geek: there is a step by step guide here, with a link to a google group for people who are having problems. If you cannot find an answer here, maybe they can help http://hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installing_and_Configuring_Ubuntu_on_the_PandaBoard
[08:01] <zetheroo> I am getting this message when logging into root with -X  :  file /root/.Xauthority does not exist
[08:01] <mvt007geek> somsip: ubuntu didn't take a separate root pass from me.
[08:01] <haidou> I typed so much stuff in yesterday.
[08:01] <wiggmpk> haidou: where you following an online guide?
[08:01] <haidou> yeah, lots of them
[08:02] <jonrb> is there an eta on the 12.04.2 release?
[08:02] <mah454> Can bypass Layer 7 filtering ?
[08:02] <haidou> I think the gnome shell was upgraded when upgraded to 12.10.
[08:02] <haidou> when I*
[08:03] <ejv> jonrb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[08:03] <wiggmpk> haidou: i dont think to 3.6
[08:03] <wiggmpk> haidou: try "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme"
[08:03] <jonrb> yeah today, but is there an eta as in a time? like 2pm est
[08:04] <powerboxxx> Hi
[08:04] <powerboxxx> I added a nullroute using 'ip route add blackhole <IP-HERE>
[08:04] <ejv> no there's no set time, when it's ready, it's ready
[08:04] <haidou> unable to locate package
[08:04] <powerboxxx> But when I try to delete it using 'route del -host <IP-here>'
[08:04] <powerboxxx> I get this error SIOCDELRT: No such process
[08:04] <wiggmpk> haidou: how about gnome-tweak-tool? "sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool"
[08:05] <ejv> jonrb: if you're impatient and need something *now*, I suggest you use the daily build, it won't differ very much.
[08:05] <haidou> Setting up gnome-tweak-tool
[08:06] <ejv> jonrb: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/precise/daily/current/
[08:06] <wiggmpk> jonrb: the best answer is 24 hours.. if they already updated the repositories it could still take 24 hours to propagate
[08:06] <jonrb> there is a feb 14th daily for 12.04.2 wouldn't that technically be the same as todays release..
[08:06] <wiggmpk> haidou: after thats finished installing, go here https://extensions.gnome.org/ and look for the "User Themes" extension
[08:07] <wiggmpk> haidou: then you can use gnome-tweak-tool with the user theme extension to install whatever gnome-shell theme you want
[08:07] <ejv> jonrb: not necessarily, no. there may be last second committs prior to the freeze. it happens.
[08:07] <haidou> Thank you.
[08:07] <wiggmpk> np
[08:07] <ejv> jonrb: btw, when asking a question directly at someone, prefix the response with the username, for example: ejv: blah foo bar
[08:07] <jonrb> ahh I will wait then =) thanks ejv
[08:08] <jonrb> oh sorry
[08:08] <ejv> jonrb: yw, it's easy to get lost in here with all the chatter
[08:08] <wiggmpk> ejv: especially when empathy wont let you filter join/left messages!!!!
[08:09] <ejv> wiggmpk: which is why you should use irssi
[08:10] <ejv> once you use irssi, you'll wonder why you ever used anything else
[08:10] <wiggmpk> ejv: no, which is why empathy shouldnt be the default client!
[08:10] <ejv> ah; well, message still stands ;)
[08:10] <wiggmpk> :)
[08:10] <mooshroom_> hard shut down in the middle of a reset. when rebooting file check rand and couldnt mount /tmp. desktop background and settings default, folder containing original background loses all contents to the void. tried using another desktop prog.
[08:10] <mooshroom_> files still missing
[08:11] <ejv> i know there's a question in there somewhere, I just can't find it...
[08:11] <vedic> Any GUI based backup tool which can do  full back (incremental) of a remote server? I know rsync cli but looking for GUI based this time
[08:11] <cfhowlett> !who
[08:12] <ejv> vedic: grsync, zynk, etc. they exist.
[08:12] <ejv> vedic: if you're on windows, winscp supports it as well.
[08:12] <mooshroom_> i had to log in and out, someone talked to me but idk who, anyone want to ctrl-f my name and find out who?
[08:13] <mooshroom_> would have been 10-15 mins ago maybe
[08:13] <vedic> ejv: I don't think winscp can do backup scheduling?
[08:13] <cfhowlett> mooshroom_, did it work?
[08:13] <ejv> mooshroom_: cfhowlett
[08:13] <haidou> you a yogi vedic?
[08:14] <vedic> haidou: I am not yogi as of now :). But trying to be vedic.
[08:14] <ejv> vedic: that's an odd question, i can tell you have no idea, and should look at the WinSCP documentation. good luck. :)
[08:15] <vedic> ejv: well I do use winscp for file transfer but found it not doing scheduling
[08:15] <haidou> Me too.
[08:15] <ejv> vedic: you are mistaken, it does.
[08:15] <haidou> :-D
[08:16] <vedic> ejv: glad. Tnx for information
[08:17] <new_user> I'm looking to install Ubuntu along side Windows and I'm wondering what the best installation size would be best to use
[08:17] <ejv> vedic: it will exist in two parts: 1) you'll need to write a simple script, using WinSCP command line tools / keywords and 2) use Windows "task scheduler" to process your script. It can be found in Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Task Scheduler. Voila! Automatic backup.
[08:18] <haidou> I'm downloading Gnome-tweak-tool from the command line, but how do I know when it is done?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> new_user, say 8 gb for / and whatever size you want for /home.  don't forget swap ; 2 times your ram is my forumla
[08:18] <cfhowlett> haidou, your cli prompt will return after download is complete
[08:18] <_Ethan_> hi, im thinking about buying a good laptop (of about 700 EUR). I would use it specially for working (programming), any hint? Ubuntu will also be installed.
[08:18] <new_user> I'm using the installer and it isn't giving me an option for root
[08:18] <haidou> Okay, thanks.
[08:19] <ejv> vedic: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/scripting ; good luck reading. :)
[08:19] <cfhowlett> _Ethan_, what country?  for the record, Lenovo seems to run pretty good out of the box ...
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !root|new_user,
[08:19] <ejv> new_user: what were you expecting?
[08:19] <delfick> Hi there, I have this random bug where ps will hang and not respond to ctrl-c or ctrl-z. I've encountered this bug again, and it's one of the folders in /proc. So if I try to cat /proc/9888/cmdline, it will hang. strace shows it's hanging on the read system call.... does anyone have any idea how I can work out why and how to fix it?
[08:19] <ejv> that is so cheesy.
[08:20] <ejv> who is responsible for ubottu's cheese.
[08:21] <somsip> !brain | ejv
[08:21] <new_user> well I have no option for / or /home.... just installation size I haven't installed anything yet
[08:21] <Manii> Hi, why cant see user list?
[08:21] <ejv> it was (mostly) rhetorical somsip, thank you though.
[08:22] <ejv> Manii: of this channel? no idea. what client are you using?
[08:23] <mooshroom_> my desktop settings have all gone to default and my my pictures folder which contained my background has emptied. any ideas?
[08:23] <dhanu> hai
[08:23] <mooshroom_> happened after bad reboot
[08:24] <Adam-85> hi
[08:24] <Adam-85> is there any program like Ultraiso to edit ISO image with boot ?
[08:24] <ejv> mooshroom_: sounds like some possible file corruption? did you fsck?
[08:25] <mooshroom_> no i didnt
[08:25] <mooshroom_> ill try that
[08:26] <ejv> Adam-85: mount and mkisofs ?
[08:26] <Adam-85> evi Does it keep boot file as is ?
[08:27] <Slartibart> I get "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.8.0-6-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory" when trying tp rom modprobe aftere installing 12.10. Anyone who knows how to solve this?
[08:27] <ejv> Adam-85: I'm not sure, I would read the mkisofs documentation, to be sure of it's intentions.
[08:27] <Slartibart> *to run
[08:27] <Adam-85> ok
[08:27] <ejv> Adam-85: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/man/mkisofs-2.0.html
[08:29] <MindSpark> hamaza
[08:29] <haidou> how do i use the gnome extensions here--> https://extensions.gnome.org/  ?
[08:31] <simpson_> hm
[08:32] <Adam-85> evi thanks , and it support boot and get boot from iso also
[08:32] <ejv> haidou: Extensions can be installed per-user in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions, or systemwide in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions and /usr/local/share/gnome-shell/extensions.
[08:32] <ejv> haidou: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions
[08:34] <haidou> The more I use Ubuntu, the more I know how much I didn't know 0.0
[08:34] <kepler> haidou: about the same with everything :P
[08:36] <haidou> So true Kepler
[08:36] <Slartibart> uname -r says I'm using 3.8.0-6-generic, but it seems /lib/modules/3.8.0-6-generic doesn't exist. Is it listed somewhere what to install to get that folder installed?
[08:37] <ejv> "The more I know, the less I understand"  - Don Henley, "The Heart of the Matter" from The End of the Innocence, 1989.
[08:37] <ejv> ^_^
[08:37]  * ejv feels old.
[08:38] <Manii> Hola
[08:48] <dogmatic69> who had that spice rack site going?
[08:48] <haidou> Okay, I'm confused.  Do I have to make my own extension to a theme, or do I download extensions?
[08:48] <dogmatic69> AlanBell was it your site?
[08:57] <mooshroom> so my "my pictures" folder annihilated itself and my desktop settings reset. ive tried loading in and out of another desktop env, ive now run fsck, which said .2 of the filesystem was non contiguous.
[08:57] <mooshroom> .2%*
[08:58] <mooshroom> typically when my hard drives muck up, it's been so bad ive had to toss it. does this account for my missing files?
[09:03] <Hyperiant> Can I get support for Xubuntu installation from a live CD in this channel?  The major difference is the desktop environment, so the installation procedures should be somewhat paralleled, right?
[09:03] <sencha> Hyperiant, is #xubuntu not sufficient?
[09:04] <Hyperiant> sencha: Everyone is afk
[09:04] <sencha> Hyperiant, well, I suppose you could try :)
[09:05] <ejv> most americans are asleep and uk/europe are just waking, it's typical at this hour
[09:05] <sencha> Hyperiant, what's your question?
[09:05] <nichlas> s/waking/working ;)
[09:05] <Hyperiant> My issue is this: I've tried installing to the same laptop with both a live CD and live USB, and each time my install stops working in the middle of installation.  It just ceases doing anything but registering my mouse cursor and button clicks.
[09:06] <Hyperiant> It used to let me get to the pre-install part (and I can actually use it in live mode) but now it stops functioning at the "Preparing to Install Xubuntu" screen.
[09:07] <Hyperiant> To be more specific, when I press "continue" it gives me a loading indicator.  I've let it sit for about 8 hours contiguously and it hasn't moved from that spot.
[09:07] <brontosaurusrex> would bios wake-up-boot be any different to user-presses-button type of boot?
[09:08] <Hyperiant> It's not even a progress bar, it's just the little icon that tells you something is happening in the background.
[09:09] <sencha> Hyperiant, I'm googling to see if there's a way to debug/view the install process and see where it hangs
[09:09] <sencha> Hyperiant, I'm just going to post some links to you if you're interested in viewing them as well
[09:09] <sencha> Hyperiant, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity
[09:09] <Hyperiant> sencha: It would be great if I could run the install process from command line, that way I could see what the problem is
[09:10] <sencha> Hyperiant, you're running the install from WITHIN a live cd, correct?
[09:10] <sencha> (where you have access to a terminal)
[09:10] <Hyperiant> sencha: At the moment, a live USB; I swapped when I suspected that the CD drive might be the cause of the issues
[09:10] <Hyperiant> sencha: When it was just the CD, it would stop reading from the disc when it hanged
[09:11] <Hyperiant> sencha: When it's the USB, the read light stops flashing
[09:11] <sencha> Hyperiant, look in /var/log/installer
[09:11] <Hyperiant> sencha: On the drive's directory, or within the live mode?
[09:12] <sencha> Hyperiant, when you're in the live session on usb/cd/whatever after you've tried to install and when it hangs
[09:12] <techgekk1985> hey guys!
[09:13] <sencha> Hyperiant, I've never had to debug an ubuntu install yet (they all "just work" for me), but it seems that if there's something happening, it'd be in /var/log/installer
[09:13] <Hyperiant> sencha: I don't think I can access the file manager during installation
[09:13] <sencha> terminal?
[09:14] <Hyperiant> sencha: Ctrl+Alt+T doesn't launch terminal in Xubuntu installs, and I don't know how else to launch it
[09:14] <sencha> Hyperiant, try one of the VTs (control + alt + f2)
[09:14] <sencha> Hyperiant, to switch back to X, use control + alt + f7
[09:17] <Hyperiant> sencha: Ctrl+Alt+F2 works; what commands should I run?
[09:18] <sencha> Hyperiant, you're on the live session, correct? and the install has hung?
[09:18] <pascal`> Hello
[09:19] <pascal`> Is there anything obviously I should check if my motd changes aren't taking effect?
[09:19] <Hyperiant> sencha: I chose "install Ubuntu" instead of "try Ubuntu"
[09:19] <rigo> hi
[09:19] <Ray> So, I was installing the newest downloadable release via DVD and when I picked install inside windows 7, it ejected the disc I haven't installed Ubuntu since 9.04. Any help?
[09:19] <sencha> Hyperiant, if so, try `cat /var/log/installer/debug` without the `s
[09:19] <pascal`> I've dumped something in motd.tail but it's not showing up when I log in :(
[09:19] <techgekk1985> hey blue49974
[09:19] <rigo> can u tell me first of all if which audio driver is loaded for the optial s/pdif output for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1648815/
[09:20] <blue49974> So I have heard rumors of Ubuntu not being free by the 15.00 release. Makes me belive it because the always free button is gone from the about and downloads page. Also in December you guys changed your Terms of Service .
[09:21] <ikonia> blue49974: no-one knows about the 13.04 release, let alone the 15 release, so I wouldn't worry about it at this time
[09:21] <AlanBell> dogmatic69: yeah, was me
[09:21] <Hyperiant> sencha: I'm getting a bunch of data, let me put it in a paste
[09:22] <sencha> Hyperiant, well I'm mostly concerned with the last few lines
[09:22] <pascal`> motd help anyone? :)
[09:22] <ikonia> pascal`: what about it ? how do you ask for message of the day help ?
[09:22] <blue49974> I also had some other concerns about privacy and the amazon features. Is this connected through Ubuntu https servers or how does this work.
[09:22] <ikonia> blue49974: you can disable the amazon lense
[09:22] <ikonia> blue49974: then you have no concerns
[09:23] <blue49974> Oh ok, That sounds good actually
[09:23] <blue49974> I was really wondering how
[09:23] <pascal`> ikonia, I asked above. I dumped some text in /etc/motd.tail and it isn't showing up when I log in. Only the default stuff is showing up and I can't figure out why.
[09:23] <ikonia> !nolense
[09:23] <Ray> Looking for installation help.
[09:23] <techgekk1985> Who here is excited for 13.04? I've heard that it's receieved an major speed upgrade.
[09:23] <ikonia> techgekk1985: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 13.04 discussion
[09:23] <gnuru> where can i read about the news in 13.04 ? :)
[09:24] <Hyperiant> sencha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1648850/
[09:24] <ikonia> gnuru: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 13.04 discussion
[09:24] <gnuru> ikonia: sry
[09:24] <ikonia> pascal`: did you regenerate the motd ?
[09:24] <blue49974> ikonia: How do I disable the Amazon api
[09:24] <ikonia> blue49974: just getting the info for you
[09:24] <rigo> so what about 12.10 questions? ie. mine? :D
[09:25] <techgekk1985> Yeah, what about 12.10?
[09:25] <ikonia> techgekk1985: what about it ?
[09:25] <Hyperiant> sencha: I'm also getting a Pango-WARNING and libgnomevfs-WARNING and a GConf-WARNING
[09:25] <rigo> ...please?
[09:25] <pascal`> ikonia, No I didn't. I need to do anything extra on a nother server I was working on. It's it regenerated on a new login anyway?
[09:25] <Hyperiant> rigo: sorry, what was your question?
[09:25] <rigo> can u tell me first of all if which audio driver is loaded for the optial s/pdif output for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1648815/
[09:25] <rigo> thisone
[09:25] <rigo> just because i had just the same audio chip in my old htpc and i hadnt no problems with it.
[09:26] <techgekk1985> blue49974: Did you go to this link? http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-is-it-free
[09:26] <ikonia> pascal`: I didn't think it was new login that regenerated it
[09:26] <pascal`> ikonia, *didn't need to.
[09:26] <rigo> and i would like to try out an older driver...
[09:26] <ikonia> pascal`: I thought it was either a cron job or a reboot
[09:26] <ServerSage> rigo: Looks to me like it's using the snd_hda_intel module.
[09:26] <rigo> the popping sound is because of the syncronisation-error. so if i watch a movie and there are loud effects the sound is popping some "electrical noises"
[09:27] <pascal`> ikonia, Yeah, I think you're right. Taking a look.
[09:27] <techgekk1985> blue499974: they removed the "Always Free" button cause people already get the point that it is free.
[09:27] <sencha> Hyperiant, those are probably harmless
[09:27] <techgekk1985> blue49974: they removed the "Always Free" button cause people already get the point that it is free.
[09:27] <sencha> Hyperiant, hmm, well we could look at /var/log/installer/syslog
[09:27] <ServerSage> rigo: If I remember correctly, you need to disable the power saving stuff.
[09:27] <NaGeL_Work> hello i would like to ask how can i restart the X server as root? So everything that runs under it runs as root?
[09:28] <ejv> running everything as root, sounds like a bad idea.
[09:28] <Hyperiant> sencha: cat /var/log/installer/syslog yields "No such file or directory"
[09:28] <ServerSage> NaGeL_Work: Why would you want to do that?
[09:28] <techgekk1985> NageL_Work: Did you look on the Ubuntu documentation? It should state how you restart the X server.
[09:28] <rigo> is there a "command" for that?
[09:29] <rigo> sadly i cant try it out since im at work, but i have ssh access to my device.
[09:29] <ServerSage> rigo: I'd have to google it, it's a bit outside my wheelhouse of immediate knowledge.
[09:29] <rigo> :))
[09:29] <NaGeL_Work> i need to d it to change something. the previous guy who was working on the server quit his job and didn't tell the sysadmin password. Now i'm responsible for the servers and ineed t ochange things.  for once change the sysadmin password and a few other things
[09:30] <techgekk1985> blue49974: Check out this article: http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/how-to-remove-the-amazon-music-and-video-lens-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[09:31] <ServerSage> rigo: I realize this is a blog post, but it might help:  http://goo.gl/6gYeg
[09:31] <ikonia> !adlens | BLZbubba
[09:31] <ikonia> ughh, idiot, sorry
[09:31] <sencha> Hyperiant, I'm actually way in over my head on this one. I googled around a little and you might want to try to reboot into a live session, and then start ubiquity (the installer) in debug mode
[09:32] <Hyperiant> sencha: How would I go about starting it in debug mode?
[09:32] <sencha> Hyperiant, it should be as simple as running `ubiquity -d` in a terminal once you're in the Xfce live session
[09:32] <pascal`> ikonia, The problem was that, even though I'm on 12.04, update-motd wasn't installed. It's because I upgraded from 10.04. Weird. Thanks though :).
[09:33] <rigo> ServerSage thats nice thank you!
[09:33] <sencha> Hyperiant, when it hangs, look at the terminal window in which you ran ubiquity -d to see if there are any error messages
[09:33] <techgekk1985> Who's the offiicial moderator for this Ubuntu channel?
[09:33] <ServerSage> rigo: No problem, glad to help.  Just remember to backup any files before you make changes.
[09:34] <sencha> Hyperiant, I'll be asleep by the time you do that, so possibly ask again in here, or wait until #xubuntu livens up :) There is probably a forum for xubuntu as well (or just the ubuntu forums)
[09:34] <rigo> right.
[09:35] <sencha> Hyperiant, sorry I couldn't help more :(
[09:35] <Hyperiant> sencha: Thanks for getting me as far as you did
[09:36] <hanibana> hi, this iptables rule: // iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080  // to redirect 80 to 8080 does not work on my ubuntu. Any clue?!
[09:37] <rigo> but as i read the post it sais, the popping sound comes when starting and stopping the music/sound which is of corse also happening and annoying so the post is gr8 and i can use it BUT
[09:37] <rigo> i have a different problem i think
[09:38] <ejv> hanibana: you need to specify an interface on which to apply the rule; -i ethX
[09:39] <jonsaint> hi. i cant get devede to work no more, can anyone recommend a programme that converts films ready to be burnt?
[09:40] <Hyperiant> Can this channel help me debug Ubiquity?  I'm trying to install Xubuntu and it hangs, keeping me from completing the installation.
[09:40] <hanibana> ejv: If this option is omitted, any interface name will match (from iptables man page).
[09:40] <ejv> hanibana: hmm not sure then ;)
[09:41] <NaGeL_Work> or better question… if i have sudo access.. i can potentially change other users password right?
[09:41] <hanibana> ejv: np thanks
[09:41] <somsip> NaGeL_Work: passwd user pass...yes
[09:42] <ejv> Hyperiant: debugging an entire program is kind of outside the scope of support this channel can provide; if you believe you've truly encountered a bug, I suggest you open a new report on Launchpad or see if a similar ticket already exists.
[09:42] <NaGeL_Work> thank you.
[09:42] <jonsaint> anyone???
[09:42] <somsip> !anyone | jonsaint
[09:42] <ejv> actually, !patience is more appropriate for jonsaint
[09:43] <ejv> !patience | jonsaint
[09:43] <somsip> ejv: jonsaint: yeah - just saw the initial question a bit earlier
[09:43] <ejv> if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer, it's just so... logical ^_^
[09:44] <Hyperiant> ejv: I don't know much about Launchpad; how would I be able to know whether a ticket about this particular bug has been submitted, and where can I find the entry for it?  It's a problem I've had on both a live USB and a live CD.
[09:44] <jonsaint> somsip, i cant get devede to work no more since updating, keeps crashing
[09:45] <somsip> jonsaint: did you try purging it and reinstalling it?
[09:45] <ejv> Hyperiant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:46] <jonsaint> somsip, i have tried everything. keeps hanging or just closing down. its only been like this since the new release came out.
[09:46] <Hyperiant> ejv: It's a bug installing Xubuntu; should I enter it in a Xubuntu section?
[09:46] <somsip> jonsaint: any error when run from a terminal? Any other bug reports if it;s a new version?
[09:47] <ejv> Hyperiant: personally, no. :)
[09:47] <jonsaint> somsip, im a fairly new user to ubuntu, im not very technical with terminal or what to do
[09:47] <somsip> jonsaint: open a terminal, type 'devede' and see if it coughs any useful information back at you
[09:47] <ejv> Hyperiant: the xubuntu launchpad appears less active. File it under Ubuntu, as Ubiquity is a pretty low level program to be malfunctioning; mention you're using Xubuntu, and let *them* triage.
[09:48] <jonsaint> somsip, it just opens the programme
[09:48] <Hyperiant> ejv: How do I find my problem in a stack of 103671 bugs?  >_<
[09:48] <somsip> jonsaint: you said before it was crashing. Is it okay from terminal?
[09:48] <ejv> Hyperiant: by using the search field of course.
[09:49] <ejv> Hyperiant: i would also check here first: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[09:49] <jonsaint> somsip, so far so good. its converting now which takes forever! last time it stuck at 47% and it locked up my pc
[09:50] <Hyperiant> ejv: What keywords should I use?  It's hard to convey exactly what I'm experiencing to a search bar
[09:50] <somsip> jonsaint: so follow the process and se if it gives any useful info when it crashes. What version of devede? How did you install it?
[09:50] <sencha> Hyperiant, install hangs
[09:50] <sencha> Hyperiant, install freezes
[09:50] <sencha> et
[09:50] <sencha> etc*
[09:51] <ejv> Hyperiant: just take a few minutes, try a few combinations such as your hardware, your ubuntu version you're using, your microprocessor version, etc. a few minutes that's all. if you still can't turn up anything, report a new bug. they will re-assign and close the ticket if it's already been reported and redirect you to contribute to it.
[09:52] <ejv> Hyperiant: there's also a tag cloud on the right hand side, that you can use to drill down common bug "themes", good luck :)
[09:52] <jonsaint> somsip, im not sure what version it is, i got it off the software centre this morning
[09:53] <somsip> jonsaint: if/when it crashes, it's worth looking for bug reports relating to that version. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devede/
[09:55] <lantizia> Hi, I have a full length 88 key MIDI Keyboard (that uses a USB interface)... it doesn't make any sounds by itself - for that it needs a computer.  How can I do a basic setup where I can just get it making the sounds of the notes on Linux?
[09:56] <jonsaint> somsip, cheers for the info. il give it a go but if it fails again, are there other programmes that do the same job?
[09:56] <Hyperiant> ejv: Thanks for the help
[09:57] <somsip> jonsaint: a quick search shows a few I have no personal knowledge of: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-dvd-ripper-software.html
[09:57] <jonsaint> somsip, thanks.
[10:05] <ejv> Hyperbyte: np, happy to help. i suspect you'll get much higher quality help interacting with the ubiquity developers themselves ;)
[10:05] <rigo> so the different problem is ServerSage that i hear popping sound while the movie. so it hears like it would be overloaded or overdriven or whatever...
[10:07] <Hyperbyte> ejv, Hyperiant left. ;-)
[10:07] <ejv> that's what i get for disabling joins/parts/quits :)
[10:07] <ejv> sorry Hyperbyte ;)
[10:07] <Hyperbyte> No worries. :)
[10:08] <nilli> I was recently given access to an Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS server, and I asked my new server host to give me root access by typing 'sudo adduser nilli sudo', he reported there were no error messages and in /etc/group I can see the line 'sudo:x:27:nilli'. However, when I try to sudo, it says I'm not in the sudoers file anyway. What did we miss?
[10:10] <auronandace> nilli: did you relogin for it to take effect?
[10:11] <eipi-1> nilli: maybe check visudo if the sudo group is allowed to sudo
[10:11] <nilli> I have logged out with ctrl+d and then relogged with ssh
[10:13] <nilli> oh, maybe I should've been added to a different group? in /etc/group there are also groups called root, sys, adm and staff. Besides my name on the sudo line, no other users have been added to any other groups.
[10:14] <nilli> (those are not the only groups, just the ones most likely to give root access)
[10:17] <tadpole-> Anyone have a good howto on ubuntu and ssd's.  Like best practices and what not?
[10:18] <eipi-1> nilli: in /etc/sudoers which should be accessed via the command visudo (for which you need to be root) there should be a line "%sudo All=(All) All"
[10:18] <eipi-1> with that line commented out, the sudo group has no effect
[10:19] <nilli> okay thanks, I'll ask my host to have a look.
[10:19] <dogmatic69> AlanBell: what was the address for your spice site?
[10:20] <rameshmourya> hey
[10:21] <AlanBell> dogmatic69: http://ratemyspicerack.com/
[10:21] <rameshmourya> i am ew to ubuntu ad i am having trouble installig my hp laserjet p1007 printer.  can somebody help me??
[10:21] <rameshmourya> Help me please!!!
[10:22] <rameshmourya> please is some one there
[10:22] <nn0101_> rameshmourya: doesn't HP provide a driver?
[10:22] <nilli> rameshmourya: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[10:22] <rameshmourya> i dont know
[10:22] <nn0101> rameshmourya: read ubuntu prointg guide somewhere
[10:23] <nn0101> !tell rameshmourya about printing
[10:23] <rameshmourya> i saw it
[10:23] <rameshmourya> can i get help there
[10:24] <ejv> tadpole-: sounds like a good question for the ubuntu-users mailing list ;)
[10:25] <rameshmourya> thanks for the help all of you
[10:25] <rameshmourya> specially ubottu and n0101
[10:25] <rameshmourya> i will se what happens next
[10:25] <tadpole-> Ejv. Just thought id ask since I was here.
[10:25] <rameshmourya> i love ubuntu
[10:25] <ejv> !enter | rameshmourya
[10:26] <rameshmourya> k
[10:26] <rameshmourya> :-D
[10:27] <ejv> tadpole-: from what I'm told, Intel's firmware is superior to the other competitors in terms of access to the SSD's attributes and usage, and stability. SSDs should not be part of your backup plan though, I think they are a little too "new" for that.
[10:28] <saurabh5647> is ubuntu 12.04.2 released yet?
[10:28] <Vin100|Home> saurabh5647, YES
[10:29] <ejv> saurabh5647: there's a daily build from today available if you can't wait for the frozen 12.04.2. It's not yet available.
[10:29] <IcarusX> hello, can somebody help a linux newbie here? I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though I have libglu1-mesa installed.
[10:29] <tadpole-> I was just hoping to use it to make my system a bit faster. Bootup and what not.
[10:29] <saurabh5647> Vin100|Home, where is the download link?
[10:29] <ejv> saurabh5647, Vin100|Home is mistaken.
[10:30] <saurabh5647> ok ejv
[10:30] <JJ`> Does Canonical provide any info on how often they provide security updates(e.g Microsofts "patch tuesday") or do they just release an update when a patch is available?
[10:30] <Zmanu> hello
[10:30] <Zmanu> i have a question about bazaar is it a good place to talk about it ?
[10:30] <IcarusX> that error with a game like ThePlan (http://www.krillbite.com/theplan/).
[10:30] <JJ`> I've been to the usn-wiki and pages, but they don't seem to give any details on how often/when they rlelease them
[10:30] <ejv> saurabh5647: if you want something that will be very close to the 12.04.2 build, use the daily at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/current/
[10:30] <saurabh5647> ejv, any ideas when will it be out?
[10:30] <Zmanu> i'm looking for do a bzr up for only one file, i find nothing in doc about this
[10:31] <ejv> saurabh5647: there's no set time, when it's out, it's out.
[10:31] <Myrtti> JJ`: usually as soon as patches are available
[10:31] <saurabh5647> ejv, ok
[10:31] <rameshmourya> hey!  i foud that my both my printers are ot listed in ubuntu list of supported priters....does that mea my printer is not going to work on ubuntu 12.04
[10:31] <saurabh5647> thanks
[10:31] <rameshmourya> >:o
[10:32] <JJ`> Myrtti: Thanks!
[10:32] <rameshmourya> hey somebody help me!!!!1
[10:32] <nearst> hello ppl :)
[10:32] <rameshmourya> PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:32] <Myrtti> rameshmourya: try and see is usually my approach
[10:33] <nearst> !ask | rameshmourya
[10:33] <ejv> !patience | rameshmourya
[10:33] <rameshmourya> well i tried and tried
[10:33] <saurabh5647> I have read ubuntu 12.04 will contain kernel 3.5, is it compatible with proprietary ati drivers for radeon 4000 series?
[10:33] <Zmanu> so nobody use Bazaar and can help me
[10:33] <saurabh5647> *ubuntu 12.04.2
[10:34] <ejv> rameshmourya: the support provided here is voluntary. if nobody knows the answer, nobody will answer. in the mean time, Google, or open a new thread on the ubuntu forums, or on askubuntu.com. Good luck to you.
[10:34] <cnatino> que bonito los colorines de los xats ¬¬
[10:34] <ejv> !es | cnatino
[10:34] <bloopletech> I'm getting cursor artefacts under Quantal with proprietary NVIDIA drivers; I've tried drivers in the 304.xx, 310.xx and 313.xx series, all to no avail. The problem does not happen at _all_ in Windows 7 on the same machine, and I'm definitely using either the 310.xx or 313.xx series there. I've tried googling, but no one else seems to be having this problem. Where is the right place to look into this issue?
[10:35] <Naphatul> how can i change the lightdm theme to the one that comes witha default ubuntu install? i installed with the minimal ISO and the menus are ugly
[10:35] <nearst> !bzr | Zmanu
[10:35] <rameshmourya> well the real problem is that the printer is being showed in list of installed printers ad whe  i print something it also appears in print job qeue! but then it again goes idle!      does that happes with anyone else!!!!
[10:36] <Zmanu> nearst: i read doc, and find nothing, taht's why i come here to ask
[10:36] <Zmanu> nearst: i want to do a bzr up on one file only, but when i do it, it up all files commits
[10:36] <dr_willis> check the cups log  rameshmourya  it may  give a clue
[10:36] <saurabh5647> hey, has anyone tried ubuntu 12.04.2 with kernel 3.5 on ati radeon 4000 series?
[10:36] <bloopletech> Here's an example of the artefacts I'm seeing: http://imgur.com/HvX50S2
[10:37] <rameshmourya> what is a cups log???
[10:37] <dr_willis> !cups
[10:37] <ejv> saurabh5647: 12.04.2 isn't out yet, so don't you think that question is a bit absurd? :)
[10:37] <rameshmourya> but what the hell is cups
[10:37] <dr_willis> the printing system
[10:38] <dr_willis> cups.org
[10:38] <rameshmourya> thanks
[10:38] <nn0101> hey dr_willis
[10:38] <ejv> rameshmourya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUPS
[10:38] <saurabh5647> ejv, but u said daily build is very close. So I m asking about that
[10:38] <nn0101> dr_willis: how's it going dude
[10:38] <jellf> hi all
[10:38] <ejv> saurabh5647: ahh then rephrase your question! accuracy matters. ask if anyone has tried ubuntu with 3.5 and the ati 4000 chipset ;)
[10:39] <bloopletech> they appear and disappear as I move the cursor around. This is my xorg.conf: https://gist.github.com/bloopletech/6a6655cc02cb99802a68. I am currently using a couple of ppa's following: https://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/experimental-ppa-with-performance-improvements/, however the issue reproduces without them as well
[10:39] <ejv> i'd file a new bug report with the PPA on launchpad personally
[10:41] <haidou> Hello
[10:42] <tomreyn> IcarusX: you will often run into such errors when a game is for a different architecture than the one you are running
[10:43] <tomreyn> oh well
[10:43] <bloopletech> I've just updated the gist to include my compiz configuration. This problem has occurred occasionally for the last few months but in the last week or so it's started happening more frequently. I have made a number of system changes in recent times, but I can't pin it down to anything specific
[10:43] <haidou> Can someone tell me how to install a theme from Gnome --look.org on GNome shell 3.6.2
[10:43] <nassr> hi
[10:43] <haidou> ?
[10:44] <saurabh5647> ejv, I did mention kernel 3.5
[10:45] <nassr> hi
[10:45] <bloopletech> will try asking in the nvidia channel
[10:45] <MatthewL> nassr: hello
[10:46] <nassr> but iam arabic
[10:47] <jm-> YPOOO
[10:47] <nichlas> nassr: please ask a question if you want help :)
[10:47] <MatthewL> modprobe |	ubottu
[10:48] <nassr> no think
[10:48] <nichlas> nassr: otherwise noone will answer
[10:48] <haidou> Can someone help me?
[10:48] <MatthewL> !modprobe | ubottu
[10:49] <bloopletech> !ask | haidou
[10:49] <nichlas> haidou: apparently not. i don't have any experience, so i can answer no better than google
[10:50] <MatthewL> !lsmod |	ubottu
[10:51] <MatthewL> !thanks | ubottu
[10:52] <haidou> How can i install a theme on ubuntu 12.10 on Gnome Shell 3.6.2 from Gnome--look.org?
[10:52] <lukecarrier> haidou, check to see if the theme ships with a readme file; the instructions tend to differ from theme to theme
[10:53] <lcabreza> anybody knows any open source application that connects to exchange calendar not email on windows ?
[10:53] <lukecarrier> haidou, generally it's a case of moving icon packs to ~/.icons and themes (GTK, Shell, etc) into ~/.themes
[10:54] <haidou> I dont have a .themes folder
[10:54] <haidou> and no read me came with the theme.
[11:06] <mvt007geek> i wnat to do   :linux-tests/initnandsim 128MiB-2048
[11:06] <mvt007geek> but it gives me FATAL: Module nandsim not found.
[11:06] <mvt007geek> what do you suggest?
[11:07] <mvt007geek> what the problem is?
[11:07] <mvt007geek> i have an ubuntu server on pandaboard
[11:07] <brightknight> mvt007geek: focus
[11:08] <mvt007geek> brightknight: focus ?
[11:08] <mvt007geek> brightknight: i tried to install it but E: Unable to locate package nandsim
[11:09] <brightknight> your thoughts
[11:09] <mvt007geek> brightknight:  on what? :D
[11:10] <brightknight> what is good and praiseworthy
[11:11] <brightknight> I am about to focus on  THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST ACCORDING TO ST. MARK myself feel free to join me in ##catholic.
[11:11] <Kartagis> what can I do if sound stutters in a video in firefox?
[11:11] <Kartagis> http://dizi.milliyet.com.tr/muhtesem-yuzyil/izle/son-yeni-bolum/default.htm
[11:11] <Kartagis> sorry
[11:11] <tomreyn> brightknight: no off-topic chat here please
[11:11] <mvt007geek> brightknight: i love god and i believe in him/her but now i have problem with this nandsim
[11:11] <Kartagis> of course you can't see that
[11:12] <Mohundar> FAGGOT JEWS
[11:13] <ironhalik> how can I find out exact laptop display model in Ubuntu?
[11:13] <brightknight> mvt007geek: seek first the Kingdom and all these will be added Ubuntu knows better.
[11:13] <ironhalik> there was some way, but I can't find it
[11:13] <zorgborg> hey guys lock screen doesnt work after installing xubuntu-desktop (which i have now removed), have i accidentally deleted the package associated with it or...?
[11:13] <Ohmage> hi guys, could someone please help me to figure out the best way to dual boot ubuntu with preinstalled windows 8 on uefi GPT formatted hard drive. i have exhaustively gone through many links, threads and forums to no real definitive answers
[11:14] <tomreyn> ironhalik: one of these should say: lshal, lshw, dmidecode
[11:14] <tomreyn> ironhalik: also /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:14] <EvilGM> I'm actually doing this right now. Just install Windows 8, and then load Ubuntu up from a flashdrive/disk and install.
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | Ohmage
[11:15] <EvilGM> That being said, I have a quick question myself. What do the terms 'universe' and 'multiverse' mean in packages?
[11:15] <Ohmage> MonkeyDust i have been following that link and many others that stem from that information
[11:15] <Ohmage> i shall look again but i have been having a few issues trying to follow the how to's
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Ohmage  then start from the beginning, what goes wrong, what brings you here
[11:16] <tomreyn> !universe | EvilGM
[11:16] <EvilGM> Thank you ever so much. Good bye!
[11:17] <Haris> Hello all
[11:17] <ironhalik> tomreyn: Xorg reports only the manufacturer, and dmidecode and others won't show the info
[11:17] <Haris> I need the netinstall or minimal install ISO for 11.10
[11:17] <Haris> where is it on -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[11:17] <Ohmage> well firstly the main issue was, when booting from the live cd of 12.10 which is suggested as the version able to boot with secure boot enabled (not true in my case) i went to the install app and when it gave me the install options there was NO OPTION to install alongside current operating systems
[11:17] <tristan_> f
[11:18] <Ohmage> ubuntu did not detect windows 8, although this may of been because i had partitioned the main data segment of the hard drive
[11:18] <tristan_> y a t'il des francais???
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[11:18] <Ohmage> when i finally got to install ubuntu it went and did the old wipe your whole disk and start a fresh trick...
[11:18] <Haris> guys ?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> Haris  11.10 is !eol
[11:19] <Haris> MonkeyDust: I know that
[11:19] <DJones> Haris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:19] <aandy> hi, i have a large array of disks which i've encrypted using luks. all of which have the same key (passphrase, not file). i know the ramifications of this, but can i in any way read the pw once and pass it on in a bash script? so i'll read it in the start, and unset after use of course, but can i echo/pipe the $pass to cryptsetup as a pw?
[11:19] <Haris> I need the pxe install images for bootup
[11:19] <tomreyn> ironhalik: is this a flat-panel screen?
[11:20] <Plizzo> Hello! I have an issue with my ubuntu installation. I accidentally enabled ipv6 forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf and after that my eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces was replaced with an interface called p6p1. I disabled the setting and enabled eth0 again, but it still does not work. When I run ifconfig -a eth0 is not found but only lo and p6p1. Please help me!
[11:20] <Ohmage> i am now 50% through my windows reinstall from usb and just want to find the best way to install dual bootloader
[11:20] <Haris> DJones: Thank you
[11:20] <tomreyn> ironhalik: how is it connected?
[11:20] <Haris> can these minimal images be used for network install ?
[11:20] <ironhalik> tomreyn: laptop display, via LVDS
[11:21] <ironhalik> xorg reports serial "0"
[11:21] <Ohmage> MonkeyDust ideally if someone could walk me through how to install the linuxfoundation bootloader that was released a few days ago that would probably help me solve all the issues i am having, as that signs the bootloader into the windows ESP and means it should be  A LOT easier
[11:22] <zorgborg> solveded my problem, gnome-screensaver package was missing :)
[11:22] <aandy> nvm, you can. just use '-' in cryptsetup and pipe it in. :)
[11:22] <tomreyn> ironhalik: try this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install read-edid && sudo get-edid | parse-edid
[11:22] <Haris> where's the stuff for pxe in the minimal iso for oneiric ?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> Ohmage  i'm not familiar with that bootloader
[11:23] <Ohmage> it isnt a bootloader per se
[11:23] <Haris> I don't think its in this mini.iso
[11:24] <Ohmage> MnokeyDust: from how i understand it it is efi. files that can be enrolled through a usb key into the windows bootloader allowing all linux distros to be booted without so much hassle and enable dual boot also
[11:25] <charis> Hey
[11:26] <charis> today is the release of 12.04.2?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> charis  from the release schedule : "February 14th Ubuntu 12.04.2 Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)  Debian Import Freeze"
[11:28] <Ohmage> MonkeyDust: http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/linux-foundation-releases-secure-boot-loader-212661 and also the original files and VAGUE guide to do it at http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/linux-foundation-secure-boot-system-released/
[11:28] <janisozaur> is it possible to store bash session (at least variables) across reboot?
[11:29] <Ohmage> if you know of anyone that could just simply help me do the initial http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/linux-foundation-secure-boot-system-released/ usb set up as i am not tech savvy enough to understand some of the terms used of which there is very little anyway
[11:29] <charis> @MonkeyDust are you sure? in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule it says that it should be released today
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> Ohmage  i read something about it, but am no help, i'm sure someone else can help
[11:29] <Ohmage> ok no worries
[11:30] <Ohmage> Is there anyone here who has experience with dual booting ubuntu on a UEFI system????
[11:30] <PrincessLuna> Hi, my broadcom bcm43228 is not working on Ubuntu 12.10. Any ideas?
[11:31] <Ohmage> Princess was it a windows 8 computer beforehand??
[11:32] <PrincessLuna> Ohmage: yes
[11:33] <PrincessLuna> Ohmage: Why?
[11:33] <Ohmage> well that can be partly the issue, what method did you install ubuntu using and what exact options did you choose
[11:34] <Ohmage> as i have just installed ubuntu on my new win8 laptop and have just reinstalled win8 clean due to power issues on ubuntu
[11:35] <Ohmage> also was your machine PREinstalled windows 8 or upgraded to win 8 (is the computer UEFI or BIOS??)
[11:36] <PrincessLuna> Ohmage: Preinstalled, then reinstalled using a retail disk. This has nothing to do with boot. Its just the wireless that does not work
[11:36] <haidou> Hi, I need a step by step guide to install a theme on 12.10 ubuntu. I dont have a themes folder. I then created a .themes folder and put the theme in there, but the tweak tool progam can't use it for some reason.
[11:37] <Ohmage> ah ok sorry lol, and you havent found any guides to driver issues on the wiki??
[11:38] <Guest65860> I'm using Mixxx, but can't get it to send sound to my USB headset.  Anyone wanna help me on this?  One detail, I find the USB headphones, but it refuses the three presented sample rates for the headphones
[11:38] <Myrtti> mixxx?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> it's a dj program
[11:38] <Ohmage> i like mixxx :)
[11:39] <Ohmage> but i wouldnt call it a "dj" program lol more like a advanced mp3 playlist lol
[11:40] <Guest65860> Whatever, but I can't get sound to the USB headphones.
[11:40] <tomreyn> PrincessLuna: see if your wifi card is detected / driver loaded but considered to be kill switched: rfkill list all
[11:41] <Ohmage> have you tried using jackd or whatever guest
[11:41] <Ohmage> apparently it is easier also i cant say i would use usb headphones as are more complicated than satandard jack
[11:42] <tomreyn> PrincessLuna: there seem to be issues with your hardware or its firmware on ubuntu 12.10, though. but there are also workarounds, see the first answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215226/broadcom-bcm43228-802-11a-b-g-n-wireless-adapter-stopped-working-on-update
[11:44] <haidou> anybody know to install extensions for themes?
[11:44] <haidou> know how*
[11:44] <silv3r_m00n> why are there flying dots in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxTy4bgCQl8  ?
[11:45] <tomreyn> PrincessLuna: you unfortunately bought some hardware there where the company producing the wifi chipset (broadcom) makes it hard to support it.
[11:46] <tomreyn> !ot | silv3r_m00n
[11:49] <Myrtti> tomreyn: it actually was a support question
[11:49] <superear> !!anyone know the lastest UEFI BIOS version of lenovo's laptop using for now? one of my friend's laptop can only run ubuntu from disk,
[11:50] <tomreyn> Myrtti: which one, silv3r_m00n's?
[11:50] <c_nick> is there a better service than dropbox ? because dropbox is not consistent across all the users.. user1 may have 1 gb 2 may have 4 gb etc.. so if 3 gb data is there user 1 wont be able to sync
[11:51] <Ben64> c_nick: a server
[11:51] <tomreyn> Myrtti: the video is about running solaris in a VM on a fedora host, i don't see how that's ubuntu related, unless, maybe, s/he was trying to solve a flash playback issue.
[11:52] <Myrtti> tomreyn: yup, did you see spots in the video? probably not, but it occurs if you're on html5 tryout and there Is problems with display drivers.
[11:52] <superear> can't boot cdrom and usb from outside?
[11:52] <Ben64> i figured it was a ploy to get more views on a youtube video
[11:52] <Myrtti> doesn't occur with flash
[11:53] <tomreyn> Myrtti: i see, I wasn't aware of that, is it a widespread issue?
[11:53] <YokoBR> is there anybody using hybrid apu/gpu?
[11:53] <Myrtti> sadly haven't cracked the problem myself yet so I couldn't help him
[11:55] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a muxless HP G42, with HD 4200 (APU) and HD 6310 (GPU). I just can't enable the discrete gpu. vgaswitcheroo only works with mux hardware systems, and mine is muxless.
[11:56] <superear> there is one laptop can't boot ubuntu from cdrom or usb ,no boot options!!!!
[11:57] <ikonia> superear: someone else was having this problem on a lenovo
[11:57] <ikonia> superear: which model are you using
[11:57] <YokoBR> this is my problem: i have to use the legacy driver for HD 4200, and the newer driver for HD 6310. But the legacy one isn't compatible with the newer xorg.
[11:57] <superear> he is my friend
[11:57] <ikonia> superear: that wasn't what I asked
[11:57] <shwaiil> Q: in ubuntuServer I've changed a user to a new group, by typing the command adduser username groupname. When logged as *username and creating a new file I'm getting the wrong group ownership, username:username while I want username:NewGroupName. What am I doing wrong, thanks for looking!
[11:58] <ikonia> shwaiil: it creates with your primary groups owner
[11:58] <ikonia> shwaiil: type "id" and verify that your primary group is what you expect
[11:58] <shwaiil> ikonia: tks for looking! is there a way to change that ?
[11:58] <ikonia> shwaiil: change what exectly
[11:59] <shwaiil> ikonia: the primary is username:username same as username. change the primary group
[11:59] <ikonia> shwaiil: ok, so when you create a file I'm assuming it's creating it owned by username:username correct ?
 what the model?
[11:59] <ikonia> superear: "he's my friend" is not the model
[11:59] <christaras> I would like some help with resizing my LVM partition on ubuntu. I have been searching on Google with no result.
[11:59] <shwaiil> ikonia: thats truth, i'd like it to respect the last groupName I've changed it to.
[11:59] <ikonia> christaras: partition or volume
[12:00] <ikonia> shwaiil: please answer my question and I'll get to that
[12:00] <shwaiil> ikonia: I did answer..
[12:00] <ikonia> shwaiil: when you create a file is it owner by username:username
[12:01] <christaras> I am not an advanced user and so i dont know what you mean. I just need to create a second partition for installing a second os
[12:01] <shwaiil> ikonia: yes
[12:01] <zetheroo> do kernel updates come through when apt-get upgrade is done? ...
[12:01] <ikonia> shwaiil: ok, so you need to change the users primary group to be something else if you want that as the default file creation owner
[12:01] <ikonia> zetheroo: they do
 what you want me to say?
[12:01] <ikonia> christaras: ok, so you don't want to put that partition in your ubuntu LVM setup if it's for a second OS
[12:02] <shwaiil> ikonia: I think I've found it usermod -g username primaryGroup
[12:02] <zetheroo> ikonia: what if the kernel is coming from a PPA?
[12:02] <ikonia> shwaiil: the laptop model number
[12:02] <ikonia> shwaiil: correct
[12:02] <ikonia> zetheroo: it will still be included, but I VERY strongly advise you not to have a PPA with kernels in it
[12:02] <shwaiil> ikonia: ok cool tks for looking
[12:02] <christaras> I guess so.
[12:02] <ikonia> christaras: ok, so when you do the install of the second OS, it should ask you what you want to do with your disk, at that point you tell it
[12:02] <YokoBR> i've already tryied makson96's repo, but it didin't worked either
[12:02] <ikonia> superear: the laptop model number
[12:03] <christaras> The second os is windows and it is not going to help that way ;)
[12:03] <ikonia> christaras: then you don't want to change your LVM settings as windows is not aware of your lvm setup
 of course ,lenovo b490
[12:04] <christaras> I have allocated all of the available space on the partition for Ubuntu. I dont have any free space for windows to install on
[12:04] <ikonia> superear: that wasn't the same model he was having the problem with, although the issue maybe the same, which was basically secure boot
[12:04] <shwaiil> ikonia: it didn't worked, maybe I should delete the othergorup I've added this user, I'll just google this issue
[12:04] <ikonia> shwaiil: hang on
[12:04] <evandro_> #ubuntu-br
[12:04] <ikonia> shwaiil: you changed the users primary group yes ?
[12:04] <ikonia> superear: some of lenovos bios had been locked to only boot microsoft windows
[12:05] <tomreyn> christaras: make backups, really make backups, and be sure those backups were done sucessfully. and once more. then download the latest gparted live cd and burn it / write it to a USB stick making it bootable, and boot from it. this may allow for doing all of what you need to do, and in an all-graphical process.
[12:06] <ikonia> christaras: basically you cannot resize a pv in an lvm setup
 what if there is no option to disable secureboot?
[12:06] <ikonia> christaras: you need to migrate data off it
[12:06] <ikonia> superear: contact lenovo
 that is correct! thanks
[12:07] <shwaiil> ikonia: I've actually changed usermod -g group username, and then deleted the primary because I didn't found how to change the primary group for this user
[12:07] <ikonia> shwaiil: usermod -G
[12:07] <ikonia> shwaiil: why didn't you just ask
[12:07] <shwaiil> ikonia: now basically I get 1000 in the group ownership for created files
[12:07] <christaras> So i basiccaly have to uninstall ubuntu and re-install? (I am using a bootable enviroment "Parted Magic" to partiton but still...)
[12:08] <shwaiil> ikonia: sorry, but I did asked afterwards
[12:08] <ikonia> shwaiil: you need to change the primary group, especially now you've deleted it
[12:08] <superear> is landscape safe?
[12:08] <ikonia> landscape ? the enterprise managment tool ?
[12:08] <shwaiil> ikonia: yes, the -g didn't worked before, so I just thought about deleting the primary
[12:09] <ikonia> shwaiil: -G
[12:09] <superear> yes
[12:09] <superear> does it safe?
[12:09] <tomreyn> christaras: if you have the latest version of parted magic (which is more or less the same as gparted live cd) and it is unable to resize the disk, then, unless you want to try your luck on this complex process manually, a reinstall is the right solution.
[12:09] <ikonia> what do you mean is it safe ?
[12:09] <ikonia> superear: in what way safe ?
[12:09] <shwaiil> ikonia: I did -g, now I tested the -G didn't worked, I can just delete this user and start again I guess, seems that -G won't work to change the deleted group
[12:10] <ikonia> shwaiil: show me the exact command you are using
[12:10] <christaras> Thank you for helping me ;) i will try it the hard way before giving up.!
[12:10] <ikonia> christaras: you can't resize you PV in lvm
[12:11] <ikonia> christaras: you need to migrate your data off lvm, remove the lv's, remove the PV, resize it, re-add it then recreate the lv's
[12:12] <superear> canonical use it to track user's behavior? i guess?sorry for that!
[12:12] <shwaiil> ikonia: sure, usermod -G group username
[12:12] <ikonia> shwaiil: please show me the exact command
[12:12] <ikonia> shwaiil: EXACTLY how you rtpe it
[12:12] <ikonia> type
[12:12] <YokoBR> guys, when i try to install the catalyst driver, i get the message "no module named "apport" "
[12:12] <ikonia> superear: it's an enterprise estate managment tool
[12:13] <shwaiil> ikonia: not sure if there's lag, here it goes again sudo usermod -G group username
[12:13] <ikonia> shwaiil: oh, is the group called group and the username called username
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:14] <shwaiil> ikonia: no, I've just touch file and it's working fine now, the issue was probably the -g not doing -G thanks for your time
[12:14] <ikonia> I did say approx 3 times -G
[12:15] <ironhalik> tomreyn: that's exactly what I was looking for - thanks
[12:15] <superear> but i feel canonical have someting... idon't know ,weird!
[12:15] <shwaiil> ikonia: truth, I did tried, the group 1000 was still there, but empty, now there's only the 1001
[12:15] <tomreyn> ikonia: you can actually shrink PVs nowadays, as long as it does not have allocated extents after where its new end would be
[12:16] <tomreyn> ironhalik: you're welcome :)
[12:17] <stu___> Hi, my computer was relatively stable till today. Now I have chrome crashing after few minutes, totem crashing too, my irc client not starting, rtorrent crashing after few minutes, amule-daemon crashing after minutes... What's happenning?
[12:17] <superear> launchpad is private,right?not open source?
[12:18] <tomreyn> stu___: check /var/log/syslog
[12:18] <Ben64> stu___: check your ram
[12:19] <stu___> tomreyn: already did, I see tons of segfault blabla
[12:19] <Ben64> sounds like bad ram
[12:19] <stu___> Ben64: ok, I will check it
[12:19] <Ben64> i had almost the exact problems as you, turned out to be a bad stick after a power outage
[12:20] <superear> well ,
[12:21] <tomreyn> stu___: also try a different kernel image
[12:21] <superear> why launchpad not opensource?
[12:21] <stu___> tomreyn: k, I will test the ram first, thanks
[12:22] <geryon66> superear: launchpad is open source, of course.
[12:22] <superear> thanks
[12:22] <geryon66> superear: see https://dev.launchpad.net/
 what is the project not opensource of canonical? i forgot the name,please?
[12:24] <geryon66> superear: I don't know.
 sorry to hear that,i will check it out.
[12:25] <nibbler> superear: ubuntuone
 oh,thanks.
[12:27] <nibbler> superear: thats one of them (server side) at least. i don't know about their landscape stuff etc.
[12:28] <dacorr> Has anyone had time to try Steam for Linux yet?
 thank you,my friend.i think landscape is not opensource too.
[12:31] <YokoBR> guys, for god sake, i'm trying to install fglrx drivers, but i get this error "building for archtecture amd64/ Builting initial module for 3.7.0-7-generic/ ImportError: No module named apport"
[12:31] <tomreyn> superear: right, landscape is also closed source. there are open source alternatives, though, such as foreman
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  i'm not familiar with it, but better put a description of the issue and what you have tried so far in one line, then repeat it every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[12:37] <Arty__> #ELISA
[12:38] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust, i'm trying to install my AMD driver. The problem is that i have HD 4200 (APU) and HD 6310 (GPU), and i must use the legacy driver, not compatible with xserver 1.13. So i've used marskon96's ppa and downgraded xserver to 1.12. But when i try to install the proprietary driver (binary) or the ppa's one, i get that error "no module named apport", and xserver crashes after rebooting
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  for a start: careful with PPAs
[12:39] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust, i have no choice. I need to use the legacy amd driver in quantal...
[12:40] <superear> i think canonical have some weird relationship with i don't know maybe MI or CIA or....some kind of that,or....just guess!!!!
[12:40] <DJones> superear: Thats not really a support question, can you move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic to leave this channel free for support questions
 i can,thanks.
[12:42] <tomreyn> YokoBR: use the (open source) radeon driver, anything else is likely going to be a mess.
[12:43] <YokoBR> tomreyn, but still i'll not be using my discrete gpu, right?
[12:44] <funky1> hi there any glftpd users here?
[12:45] <Abhijit> !ask | funky1
[12:46] <funky1> okey, i want to know how/if i can hide files with a specific extension from being listed in glftpd
[12:46] <mvt007geek>  i want to chamge my  flash filesystem to yaffs. how should i do this?
[12:46] <superear> when the linux kernel will reach 4.0?
[12:48] <tomreyn> YokoBR: you will not be able to switch according to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/202028/does-ubuntu-support-ati-dual-graphics (but this may be out of date now). you should be able to choose which one to use, though (also explained there).
[12:53] <lowrezz> hi
[12:53] <lowrezz> how to make a global symbolic directory link
[12:53] <lowrezz> which works in every directory
[12:54] <jrib> lowrezz: what do you want to accomplish exactly.  Can you give an example?
[12:54] <lowrezz> sure, just not to type the long path every time i want to change to that particular dir
[12:55] <lowrezz> i want some symbolic which works systemwide
[12:55] <lowrezz> like cd pics_snowboarding
[12:55] <IdleOne> lowrezz: instead of typing cd /home/lowrezz/Pictures you can do cd ~/Pictures
[12:56] <superear> nvidia card why use somekind of intel video driver in ubuntu with default?
[12:56] <IdleOne> ~/ == /home/username
[12:56] <lowrezz> IdleOne: no
[12:56] <lowrezz> i want to define a global symbolic link
[12:56] <lowrezz> like cd dev goes to /var/www/abc/dev/
[12:57] <jrib> lowrezz: you could create a symbolic link in a convenient place (like / or ~).  For example: ln -s /home/lowrezz/really/deep/dir/pics_snowboarding ~/snowpics.  Or you might want to look at CDPATH in bash.
[12:57] <lowrezz> and so on
[12:57] <lowrezz> ah ok
[12:57] <lowrezz> yeah i thought about symbolic links, where do have to copy them to make them systemwide available
[12:58] <jrib> lowrezz: a symlink is like a shortcut, it has a path like any other file...
[12:58] <jrib> lowrezz: in that sense they are always "system-wide available" though it's strange to ask it like that
[12:58] <lowrezz> yeah but its only available in the dir i create it
[12:58] <lowrezz> isnt it?
[12:59] <lowrezz> if i create a symlink in dir a i can not use it in dir b
[12:59] <jrib> lowrezz: cd ~/snowpics    will work wherever you are
[13:00] <IdleOne> jrib: if I understand correctly, they want to create a alias for full path. I don't know how that would be done
[13:01] <IdleOne> so cd pics == cd ~/Pictures
[13:01] <IdleOne> for example
[13:01] <jrib> IdleOne: he can do that with CDPATH
[13:01] <jrib> I prefer to just have nice symlinks though :/
[13:02] <jrib> IdleOne: uh, actually I guess he can't do exactly what you said with CDPATH (but pretty close).  zsh has cd aliases I think but I don't think bash does
[13:02] <krabador> hi people, i've a problem with ahci and ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[13:02] <lowrezz> exactly
[13:02] <lowrezz> i want a symlink
[13:02] <krabador> i haven't grub at startup
[13:02] <jrib> lowrezz: ok, so make one
[13:03] <krabador> it boot without ask me nothing
[13:03] <IdleOne> I think apparix - console-based bookmark tool for fast file system navigation is what you want lowrezz
[13:03] <ToBeFree> I just wondered if running "do-release-upgrade -d" on a 12.10 web-, IRC-, etc.-server is insane or just needs good preparation
[13:03] <krabador> and now i'm not shure of what kernel i'm using after updates
[13:03] <jrib> ToBeFree: not insane if you want to have it break and help with development I guess
[13:04] <IdleOne> ToBeFree: make sure you backup and be prepared for downtime.
[13:04] <ToBeFree> :-/
[13:04] <lowrezz> alias is what i want
[13:05] <ToBeFree> I think the question is which issues would most probably cause a downtime, and how easy it would be to fix those^^
[13:05] <IdleOne> ToBeFree: join #ubuntu+1 for questions about 13.04
[13:06] <jrib> lowrezz: well in bash, you can do something like « alias snowpics='cd /home/blah/blah/pics_of_me_falling_on_snowboard' ».  And then you can just type "snowpics" as your command
[13:06] <krabador> virtualbox don't install kernel modules
[13:06] <lowrezz> exactly
[13:06] <jrib> lowrezz: ok, so do that
[13:06] <IdleOne> lowrezz: you would put your aliases in ~/.bashrc
[13:07] <lowrezz> ok
[13:07] <ToBeFree> thanks @IdleOne :-)
[13:07] <krabador> can you help me with grub ubuntu 12.10 in hd with ahci driver?
[13:11] <lowrezz> thanks anyway
[13:11] <lowrezz> works now
[13:11] <tomreyn> YokoBR: you may want to read up on this (although it's not too motivating): https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/52
[13:13] <tomreyn> !ask | krabador
[13:13] <Haris> Hello all. Is there a way I can give the oneiric installer http URL for a local box that has oneiric extracted somewhere ?
[13:13] <Haris> for network install
[13:14] <YokoBR> tomreyn, it's just for nvidia hybrid laptops
[13:14] <tomreyn> YokoBR: read it, it discusses amd/amd
[13:16] <YokoBR> tomreyn, yep, but no success yet
[13:17] <riply> Hi guys, I'm on a LAN that needs some TLC. When 'automatically detect Proxy Settings' is set, there is no internet connectivity, however when it's set to none, I can break out just fine. They tell me that there is no proxy, but obviously there is.. does anyone know if there's a way that I can see what my Proxy details are when they are 'obtained automatically'?
[13:17] <Haris> I see oneiric has been removed from gb.archive.ubuntu.com, archive.ubuntu.com ?
[13:18] <Haris> do we have any other mirror of it ?
[13:18] <Quest> why same directory and files have different size on two separate harddisks?
[13:18] <OerHeks> Haris, Oneiric is EOL
[13:18] <Haris> I know that
[13:18] <Haris> regardless, I still have build 3 boxes with it
[13:18] <IdleOne> Haris: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:19] <OerHeks> Haris, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[13:19] <Haris> is there a way to mention old-releases.ubuntu.com to the network/pxe started install of oneiric ?
[13:19] <auronandace> OerHeks: 11.10 is still supported till april
[13:20] <eddyloko> i'm having trouble connecting to my network with my wifi device...
[13:20] <OerHeks> auronandace, i see, then there must be an archive still up ?
[13:21] <eddyloko> it scans the available networks and asks for the wep key but can't stablish the connection
[13:21] <riply> eddyloko, is there dhcp setup to issue IPs?
[13:22] <IdleOne> Haris: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[13:22] <eddyloko> yes
[13:23] <usr13> eddyloko: Did you supply the correct wep key?
[13:24] <auronandace> !wep
[13:24] <usr13> auronandace: That is un-necessary.
[13:24] <usr13> auronandace: That is not what he is asking about.
[13:25] <tomreyn> usr13: i'd say it's still good to mention it for his safety in case he's not aware.
[13:25] <auronandace> tomreyn +1
[13:25] <usr13> tomreyn: You are assuming he is not aware, which could be a faulty assumption.
[13:26] <auronandace> usr13: well, now he is aware
[13:26] <tomreyn> usr13: i'm not, i'm saying there is the possibility he is not aware.
[13:26] <IdleOne> usr13: better to assume incorrectly and make sure he is aware.
[13:26] <eddyloko> usr13, yes, i've checked that a lot by now...
[13:26] <IdleOne> usr13: Now the warning has been given and they can chose to use WEP or not.
[13:27] <tomreyn> usr13: it's kind of like mentioning that a system someone is running is EOL even though you're happily helping with the immediate issue
[13:27] <Haris> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ doesn't have 11.10
[13:28] <usr13> look guys, there are some that have one or two WiFi devices that only do wep. In that case they have no choice.  Now the warning you issue over and over again is over symplistic and a bit overstated in the first place.
[13:28] <Haris> it has multiple others including 11.04
[13:28] <IdleOne> Haris: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[13:28] <rasha666> How to install LAMP in tasksel? i go to the lamp server click enter, it only stops program
[13:28] <auronandace> Haris: because 11.10 isn't end of life, its still supported
[13:28] <IdleOne> Haris: old-releases doesn't have it because 11.10 is not EOL YET. I was mistaken earlier
[13:28] <OerHeks> Haris, my bad, 11.10 is not EOL, so you should be able to update
[13:28] <Haris> if there a way to mention an alternate network mirror to pxe/network started install of oneiric ?
[13:29] <Haris> the archive.ubuntu.com and gb.archive.ubuntu.com don't have it :(
[13:29] <Haris> they did before
[13:29] <Haris> the install is not giving me the option to manually specify an alternative mirror
[13:29] <jpds> Haris: Stop using oneiric.
[13:29] <auronandace> Haris: any reason it needs to be 11.10? support ends in april, not that far off
[13:29] <jpds> Haris: It's not supported anymore.
[13:30] <Haris> because the guy with the box wants this specific version for their needs
[13:30] <auronandace> jpds: it is still supported
[13:30] <auronandace> !topic | jpds
[13:30] <Haris> it should be there on archive.ubuntu.com and gb.archive.ubuntu.com untill support ends for it
[13:30] <jpds> auronandace: Hello.
[13:31] <auronandace> jpds: greetings
[13:31] <usr13> many of us have a deadbolt lock on our front door.  It can be defeated by someone that knows hot to pick a lock.  You could put about 4 deadbold locks on your front door of different types in hopes that the guy will not have enough knowledge to pick all 4, or will decide to go to the next house because it would take too long in the first place.  Now you assume all this in the first place because you believe there is someone coming along with the intention to p
[13:32] <gopostal> hey all, i get -bash: start_pipeline: pgrp pipe: Too many files open in system -bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Too many open files in system.  after working for a hour or 2. working under kubuntu and have open eclipse ide (android sdk) and gimp.)
[13:33] <auronandace> usr13: we understand wep is better than nothing but in the interests of security we are simply reminding people that wep is not very secure compared to wpa
[13:33] <usr13> auronandace: Channel topic is "Ubuntu Support".
[13:34] <IdleOne> usr13: There is nothing wrong with providing warnings about insecure locks when you are not certain if the user of the locks knows it or not. auronandace was providing support by making sure the user had all the info they may need.
[13:34] <riply> let me try to rephrase my question: is there way that I can see what my PROXY settings are, which have been acquired by a rougue proxy server on the LAN?
[13:34] <Haris> what is my option ?
[13:35] <Haris> Correction: What are my options
[13:35] <pcdummy> Whenn i start a libvirt domain i get the following error: "Failed to start domain srvweb1 error: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile "
[13:35] <Haris> I need to install 11.10 on 3 boxes
[13:35] <pcdummy> anyone seen this before?
[13:35] <IdleOne> Haris: How did you specify archive.ubuntu.com in your PXE config?
[13:36] <usr13> IdleOne: The problem is that many people are turned away when answers are supplied that are off thopic or irrelevant and do not really deal with the question they ask.  I've found (through experience) that it is much better to stick to the issue at hand.
[13:36] <Haris> IdleOne: I did not. I extracted the "out of the box" netboot files from the server-amd64.iso image
[13:36] <Haris> on the local pxe/tftp
[13:36] <IdleOne> usr13: The answer supplied was not off topic. This continued discussion is though.
[13:36] <nihil_2013> I used to be able to adjust brightness of my screen. Now I can't. Using 12.04LTS on Samsung NC110. What could have gone wrong?
[13:36] <DJones> The point about WEP has been made, time to get back to Ubuntu support, or at least move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:37] <IdleOne> Haris: I'm not familiar with PXE, you might try asking in #ubuntu-server
[13:37] <auronandace> nihil_2013: could be a graphics driver issue
[13:37] <sonOfRa> nihil_2013, I don't know if it's the same as on my thinkpad, but did you happen to install the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[13:38] <usr13> IdleOne: I was about to say the same thing (via PM), in fact, I already did previously, if you scroll up, you'll see.  It was not my intention to create a long drawn out conversation but just to state a point, (a take-it-or-leave-it point).
[13:38] <tomreyn> Haris: i am trying to understand what makes you think that oneiric packages are no longer on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[13:38] <sonOfRa> if so, you should try adding the following line in your device section in xorg.conf:
[13:39] <tomreyn> Haris: do you want to provide details there?
[13:39] <sonOfRa>     Option         "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[13:39] <IdleOne> usr13: Fine you made your point (wrong as it was). We can drop it now :)
[13:39] <Haris> tomreyn: the installer says 'bad mirror'
[13:39] <gopostal> can someone help me with this error  -bash: start_pipeline: pgrp pipe: Too many files open in system -bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Too many open files in system.  after working for a hour or 2. working under kubuntu and have open eclipse ide (android sdk) and gimp.
[13:39] <gopostal> my pc hangs on it
[13:39] <Haris> 'bad archive mirror'
[13:41] <tomreyn> Haris: i see. well that's not very telling. you could inspect the logs. it could be for many reasons, including FNS issues, expired archve signing keys, routing / proxy issues in your network, whatever.
[13:41] <Haris> tomreyn: I started a network install via pxe for oneiric. It worked just fine for me before. Now its giving me this message
[13:41] <tomreyn> *DNS
[13:41] <Haris> let me check
[13:42] <Haris> I have INFO and WARNING messages in syslog saying the mirror does not support specified release (oneiric)
[13:43] <Haris> perhaps its a dns issue
[13:43] <DJones> Haris: You mentioned gb.archive.ubuntu.com giving you errors as well, browsing via the web takes me to http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/
[13:43] <jpds> Haris: Sounds like DNS/proxy.
[13:43] <Haris> yep, I agree. it seems to be a dns issue. syslog says wget: bad address 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[13:44] <DarkAceZ> !rude
[13:44] <aperson> ARSEKNOCKER
[13:44] <auronandace> DarkAceZ: no bots please
[13:44] <DarkAceZ> uh
[13:44] <DarkAceZ> it's not mine
[13:44] <DarkAceZ> it's a script for xchat
[13:45] <rasha666> how to select something in tasksel to install it [ ]
[13:45] <george__> ok, i'm desperated right now. i've tried to upgrade libstdc++6 manually and crapped my system. how i can fix it?
[13:45] <sunchips> tabs and the spacebar?
[13:45] <auronandace> george__: why did you try to upgrade it and how?
[13:45] <YokoBR> hey guys, wich one has better 3D accel support: Mesa/Gallium or fglrx opensource drivers?
[13:46] <rasha666> sunchips, tnx space works :)
[13:46] <wdp> YokoBR, funny question.
[13:46] <YokoBR> wdp, why?
[13:46] <auronandace> YokoBR: fglrx is not open source
[13:46] <george__> auronandace: to install hakuneko, a program that depends on a latter versdion of that package. I've downloaded and tried to upgrade manually from a deb file.
[13:46] <sunchips> rasha666: yw.
[13:47] <IdleOne> !rude
[13:47] <aperson> ARSESTICKS
[13:47] <DarkAceZ> DICKFONDLER
[13:47] <tomreyn> YokoBR: the open source amd/ati drivers are radeon and ati
[13:47] <auronandace> george__: its a fundamental library, i think you need to reinstall
[13:47] <george__> aronandace:how?
[13:47] <tomreyn> IdleOne: please stop it. thank you.
[13:48] <IdleOne> tomreyn: that is what i was trying to determine was needed :)
[13:48] <Ben64> apparently tomreyn didn't know who IdleOne is
[13:48] <wdp> YokoBR, fglrx is as far as i know not open source, which means it's developed by the company who developed the card. Which means the drivers are optimized for the card - and the opensource driver is hence most likely reverse-engineerd (or made by devs in their free time)
[13:48] <Myrtti> sorry about the noise, folks.
[13:48] <YokoBR> jockey gives me 3 options: X.Org X server --- amd/ati display driver wrapper from xserver-xorg-video-ati, fglrx(open source) and fglrx-updates (proprietary)
[13:48] <auronandace> george__: reinstall ubuntu
[13:49] <khaos> anyone to help me to add optirun option in unity menu? because bumblebee ui is not working for me
[13:49] <wdp> YokoBR, I'd always say the proprietary drivers have better performance than the open source ones, except the prop* ones are very old.
[13:49] <tomreyn> IdleOne: i see, sorry then.
[13:49] <george__> aronandace:dpkg says: error processing libstdc++6:i386 (--configure): pckage libstdc++6:i386 4.7.2-2ubuntu1 can't be configured because libstdc++6:amd64 has a different version (4.7.2-21ubuntu2)
[13:49] <IdleOne> tomreyn: no worries, good looking out. Much appreciated.
[13:49] <george__> auronandace: is there another way without having to reinstall the whole system?
[13:49] <wdp> YokoBR, there have been some tests at phoronix in 2011, which reported that the prop* drivers were about 10 times faster.
[13:50] <YokoBR> i have no choice
[13:50] <auronandace> george__: did it actually install the deb?
[13:50] <mvt007geek> how people in irc do this : for example   ***think about dog
[13:50] <mvt007geek> ????
[13:50] <Myrtti> mvt007geek: /me something
[13:51] <YokoBR> wdp, i have and hybrid amd/amd laptop. I would need to use the prop. legacy driver for the APU (HD 4200) and the proprietary driver for the GPU (HD 6200).
[13:51]  * mvt007geek thanks Myrtti
[13:51] <mvt007geek> :D
[13:51] <george__> auronandace: i don't know! i'not ab advanced user, all i know is that dpkg is complaining from dependencies
[13:51] <auronandace> george__: is that when you tried installing the deb you downloaded?
[13:52] <YokoBR> wdp, also, i can't change to GPU in any way, but the legacy driver... but the legacy driver is not compatible with xserver 1.13... so i'll just cry and wait for AMD to give me an wonderfull driver that may solve my issues..
[13:52] <akis> hi all. any idea on how can i update my java and icedtea on my 12.04. the java test fails now, althought it worked at the recent past.
[13:52] <george__> auronandace: yes, so, some programs stopped running from k menu, so, i've rebooted and know can't even go to graphic mode
[13:52] <wdp> YokoBR, just curious why fglrx is reported as opensource. Wondering if i missed some information about fglrx being opensource Oo I can't help you with ati stuff, though :(
[13:53] <wdp> YokoBR, i'm using nvidia only :(
[13:53] <YokoBR> wdp, no problem... i'm just opening my heart :(
[13:53] <Haris> I get one INFO message in syslog saysing: **: mirror does not have suite symlinks
[13:53] <tomreyn> akis: what is "the java test"?
[13:53] <wdp> YokoBR, just form a "good" question and ask in here. Someone will respond :)
[13:54] <auronandace> george__: either do a full reinstall or continue asking on this channel, it sounds like you did install it successfully and its causing major problems (which doesn't surprise me at all)
[13:54] <sunchips> akis: does `java -version` output something?
[13:54] <YokoBR> wdp, i've been trying this for months. There's just no way. I'll use mesa drivers.
[13:54] <george__> auronandace: ok...
[13:55] <goodwin> could not do apt-get install
[13:55] <Quest> why different block size on  partitions makes the same file look large or small?
[13:55] <Ben64> goodwin: give more information, pastebin the error if possible
[13:55] <goodwin> Reading package list error...
[13:55] <Haris> does the installer come with dig or nslookup or some such tool on shell/cli
[13:55] <auronandace> george__: you shouldn't install random debs downloaded from the internet, especially ones as important as that
[13:55] <akis> tomreyn:http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[13:56] <k1l_> goodwin: pastebin the whole errormsg please
[13:56] <george__> please if anyone knows how to help me, please do it!
[13:56] <auronandace> goodwin: sudo apt-get update
[13:57] <akis> sunchips: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650968/
[13:58] <tomreyn> akis: when ubuntu is released, for the very most of packages, no upgraded versions will be shipped when you install updates.  instead, security patches are applied to the versions you already had installed. this ensures your system remains safe and, at the same time, package interdependencies do not break.
[13:58] <tomreyn> akis: on current ubuntu releases you can have both or (at your choice) one of openjdk6 and openjdk7 installed. if you have both installed, you can use the update-alternatives command to set which one is the default.
[13:59] <sunchips> tomreyn, I'm pretty sure its just a browser thing. He might need to go check if he has the java plugin installed.
[13:59] <goodwin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650983/
[14:00] <goodwin> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650983/
[14:00] <gopostal> anyone know why my computer hangs after a while with the error "Too many open files in system"?
[14:00] <sunchips> gopostal, not enough ram?
[14:00] <goodwin> k1l_: here is the pastebin
[14:01] <gopostal> sunchips, 4gb
[14:01] <sunchips> gopostal, what sort of 'files' do you have open?
[14:01] <gopostal> sunchips, and 3 used at the moment
[14:01] <k1l_> goodwin: apt-get update ?
[14:01] <auronandace> gopostal: what have you got open?
[14:01] <tomreyn> sunchips: akis does have the icedtea browser plugin installed, otherwise he'd get a different message when accessing this web page.
[14:02] <gopostal> sunchips, eclipse ide, and gimp
[14:02] <gopostal> sunchips, well and some more small docs :)
[14:02] <goodwin> k1l_: yes i am doing that. is it going to be very long time?
[14:02] <vincent_> Is there any way to change a partition's system ID without booting to a live disc and using fdisk?
[14:02] <DJones> gopostal: This may be relevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/293573
[14:02] <k1l_> goodwin: no
[14:03] <tomreyn> akis: so basically what ii'm saying is that the test on the website is not reliable if you are trying to get an idea as to whether you have a version of the plugin installed which is prone against the latest known security vulnerabilities.
[14:03] <k1l_> goodwin: that is to be done to get the latest file list from the servers
[14:03] <DJones> gopostal: Although that looks a very old bug
[14:03] <tomreyn> akis: it's not clear, though, what you are trying to achieve anyways.
[14:03] <akis> tomreyn: i am afraid it s a chrome browser's problem. it worked fine under firefox.
[14:03] <tomreyn> akis: what is the problem you are seeing?
[14:04] <goodwin> k1l_: how long does it take? it seems a lot...
[14:04] <Haris> got it
[14:04] <george__> please people, how to reinstall libstdc++6 without having to reinstall all the wqhole system?
[14:04] <k1l_> goodwin: its just the file lists.
[14:04] <Haris> there's nothing wrong with the archive.ubuntu.com, gb.archive.ubuntu.com. It was a dns issue. Its working now
[14:04] <akis> tomreyn: chrome (latest version) cannot load applets
[14:04] <gopostal> this is my file limit fs.file-nr = 23968      0       411373
[14:04] <Haris> is there a way I can create a local mirror of this OS version for future network installs ?
[14:04] <gopostal> i think altleast, not 1024
[14:05] <gopostal> hmm ulimit -n says 1024
[14:05] <jrib> gopostal: yes
[14:05] <tomreyn> akis: okay, that's probably because the plugin you have is indeed outdated, or because chrome thinks it can be, and has disabled it to protect you.
[14:05] <gopostal> could that be the isue?
[14:05] <sunchips> gopostal, keep an eye on your ram? `free | grep -B 1 "Mem"` I'm using 4G right now, I'm on 64bit ubuntu though.
[14:06] <george__> apt-get: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:version 'GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[14:06] <george__> please help me to fix it
[14:06] <akis> tomreyn: that might be the probl because in firefox icedtea plug-in is enabled. where can i find a chrome icedtea plugin. under extension i can see nothing.
[14:07] <gopostal> sunchips, oke i will monitor that for a while, still have 1gb free and have everthing open atm
[14:08] <Haris> iirc, oneiric is not supported by cobbler
[14:08] <tomreyn> akis: oracle, the company developing this java distribution, has, unfortunately, a bad security track record on java and a bunch of other software they make. for the past couple of updates to the java plugin, whenever they released an update, it was still not fixing the serious bugs which had been reported against the previous version. so it's currently quite difficult to be running a java plugin which is not prone to a gaping security hole. whic
[14:08] <tomreyn> h is why many recommend to deactivate the plugin, or to only activate it on safe sites where possible.
[14:08] <Haris> the later versions 12.x and above are
[14:08] <cnf> hi, anyone know how i can use preseed to do a prefill instead on certain questions?
[14:08] <tomreyn> akis: you can inspect and override the setting at chrome://plugins
[14:09] <cnf> for example network configuration. i'd like to prefill most things i can, but still have it prompt to change the actual ip address
[14:09] <hillary> when loading or starting any application the screen freezes in my ubuntu 12.04. what could be the problem
[14:09] <george__> kde
[14:10] <tomreyn> akis: i would recommend against it, though, java is currently the best way to infect your (or anyones') computer, and it's alwas been high ranking.
[14:10] <Ohmage> #ubuntusupport
[14:10] <akis> tomreyn: <chrome://plugins>. thanks a lot. it is disabled. auto-disabled for security reasons? can i enable it?
[14:11] <MatthewL> Isn't it just for the browser plugins Java is hazardous?
[14:11] <tomreyn> akis: i think you can override it, but i forgot how exactly. i wouldn't want to either.
[14:11] <Quest>  whats the best tools for 2 way sync like dropbox?
[14:11] <k1l_> Quest: you mean owncloud?
[14:11] <auronandace> !one | Quest
[14:11] <k1l_> Quest: or unison?
[14:12] <vfw> Quest: rsync
[14:12] <MatthewL> Love Ubuntu one!
[14:12] <Quest> vfw,  rsync is not a good idea for 2 way
[14:12] <vfw> O
[14:12] <tomreyn> MatthewL: not only, but without the plugin installed, you can't be infected by visiting a malicious website.
[14:12] <Ohmage> hey guys, got an issue with bootloading. just installed 12.10 alongside win8 uefi, when i put secure boot on and it tries to boot grubs.efi i get this error "Secure boot forbids loading module from (hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod" and leaves me at a cmdline which starts grub rescue>
[14:13] <k1l_> Quest: unison is 2way rsync
[14:13] <Quest> k1l_ ya. i heard of that
[14:13] <Ohmage> im still at the grub rescue command line and havent touched anything on that machine so was hoping someone could help
[14:13] <Quest> k1l_ so unison uses rsync in background?
[14:13] <auronandace> !uefi | Ohmage
[14:13] <akis> tomreyn: do you recommend me to enable it (as i always ude chrome to browse) or leave it disabled? if i have to use java i can use firefox. why firefox left it enabled? doesn't have any problem with security hole?
[14:14] <Ohmage> auron iv been there thats how i installed it all in the first place
[14:14] <fzzzt> Anyone here familiar with PAM? I'm looking for a way to conditionally include a session line from an auth line
[14:14] <k1l_> Quest: yes
[14:14] <Ohmage> im realy close to having this thing dual boot properly its just a matter of figuring out this little error and i know that how-to wont say what i need
[14:14] <MatthewL> tomreyn, I have open jdk, and haven't thought about enabling the browser plugin
[14:15] <Quest> k1l_ unison and rsync are made in C?
[14:15] <k1l_> Quest: dont know. for that detailed questions see the programms itself
[14:15] <Quest> ok
[14:16] <MatthewL> Ohmage, I have successful installations of windows first, then Ubuntu.
[14:16] <akis> tomreyn: i discovered that in chrome isnt disabled to. just "always allwed" isn't checked, so every time i execute an applet ask me for a permission
[14:16] <Ohmage> MatthewL: awesome
[14:16] <Ohmage> maybe you can help
[14:16] <Ohmage> the laptop is preinstalled with win 8
[14:16] <tomreyn> akis: this sounds like a good compromise to me.
[14:17] <tomreyn> MatthewL: same here. ;)
[14:17] <akis> tomreyn: to me too
[14:17] <MatthewL> Ohmage, I'd resize the partition by half to ext4, and then install Ubuntu into that space
[14:17] <vfw> Ohmage: Have you installed Ubuntu 64bit?
[14:18] <tomreyn> akis: you should try to apply the same configuration to firefox
[14:18] <Ohmage> yes i have
[14:18] <vfw> Ohmage: dono if this is relevant but:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-signed/+bug/1104627
[14:18] <MatthewL> Grub problem, ohmage?
[14:18] <akis> tomreyn:firefox asks also to click the "run" command
[14:18] <Ohmage> from scratch i put in livecd partitioned the storage of windows c: in half then made three partitions for root swap and home
[14:19] <Ohmage> yeh its just the bootloader
[14:19] <Ohmage> that is issue
[14:19] <Ohmage> i put bootloader in the same efi partition as windows as says in the how to
[14:19] <MatthewL> Maybe try for one partition for Ubuntu, ohmage.
[14:19] <Ohmage> matt can i pm as will just fill channel with general unuseful noise for most ppls problem
[14:20] <MatthewL> Sure!
[14:20] <Ohmage> thanks
[14:20] <tomreyn> akis: cool, i guess then you're set. unless you also use other web browsers.
[14:22] <akis> tomreyn: i am using 99,99% chrome.it's faster and lighter than firefox. i have no other browser install on my system. i am using 0,01% firefox as alternative browser if a page does not be loaded with chrome.
[14:23] <vfw> Ohmage: MatthewL Having only one partition will simplify things, but a separate /home/ is a good thing and you only need to realize that the filesystem that is of interest to the boot loader is /  and not /home/
[14:23] <Ohmage> the issue is not to do with /
[14:23] <iceroot> what is the way for an encrypted RAID10 array? (4 x 2tb), create the raid array with dmraid and then luks? or do i need lvm too?
[14:24] <Ohmage> bootloader is not in /
[14:24] <Ohmage> i put grub into the original efi partition windows uses as suggested in the uefi ubuntu wiki page
[14:24] <vfw> Ohmage: I know that.  It's in the MBR of the drive that the PC boots to.
[14:24] <Ohmage> GPT old bean
[14:24] <Ohmage> :/
[14:24] <vfw> Ohmage: Or in your case, the efi partition.
[14:24] <Ohmage> i was thinking of reformatting the whole drive to mbr
[14:25] <Ohmage> that would solve some issues but im not sure enough to bother
[14:25] <vfw> DOn't blame you.  efi appears to be a mess
[14:25] <Ohmage> i thought efi only works on GPT if im not mistaked
[14:25] <Ohmage> mistaken
[14:25] <vfw> I dono
[14:25] <akis> tomreyn:thank you for your advises. i have to go now. bye.
[14:26] <tomreyn> akis: you're welcome, see you
[14:27] <Ohmage> lol, i went to a microsoft support live chat to ask them about some of this
[14:27] <vfw> OH, what did they say?
[14:27] <vfw> Anything useful?
[14:27] <Ohmage> as soon as i mentioned i iwas doing what i was doing to try and dual lboot with ubuntu he shat the chat window basically telling me to talk to the computer manufacturers instead
[14:27] <Ohmage> LMAO
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> thats like a curse word in a MS chat - ubuntu - whaaaat
[14:28] <Ohmage> he literally was like ARGH ubuntu ARGH must click X
[14:28] <vfw> Ohmage: YOu said the wrong thing :)
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> how rude
[14:28] <Ohmage> to be honest windows 8 gives me muuuuuch better battery and i cant figure how to get the same out of linux yet but i know its possible
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> try powertop
[14:29] <rohitkav> I am getting an error configuring git "fatal: bad config file line 1 in /home/rohit/.gitconfig"
[14:29] <rohitkav> kindly help
[14:29] <vfw> Ohmage: YOu have to install some extra software for power-save modes.
[14:29] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: post your .gitconfig
[14:29] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: if you have an error in their it's global to your repos (as a that user) so it will hit that error constantly - it says the error is on line 1
[14:30] <rohitkav> git config --global user.name "myname" git config --global user.email "myid@gmail.com"
[14:30] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: yea if that was one command thats incorrect
[14:30] <rohitkav> no it is a two line command
[14:30] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: open the file and look at it
[14:30] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: back the file up and start over - its not that important
[14:30] <rohitkav> I have opened it
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: either fix the error or pastie the file so we can see =)
[14:31] <Ohmage> ok power top and power save
[14:31] <Ohmage> ill try em when i get it up n running but also wud me having a dedicated nvidia graphics card be part of the issue
[14:32] <Ohmage> i read somewhere dedicated graph cards are pretty annoying to do in linux
[14:32] <Guest18230> hello
[14:32] <auronandace> Ohmage: not at all, hybrid or switchable cards are the pain
[14:32] <vfw> Ohmage: This may be of instrest: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93654/why-does-my-computer-get-less-battery-life-with-ubuntu-compared-to-windows
[14:34] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: have you checked the file? is the first line "[user]" ?
[14:34] <rohitkav> no
[14:34] <Ohmage> yeh i think i got hybrid intel too thouh
[14:34] <Ohmage> acer v3 i3
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> then thats your issue rohitkav sections in that file are denoted by a tag like [user] and then a new line and then a tab and each key = value (followed by newline) so if your file doesn't start with some tag it seems incorrect
[14:35] <vfw> Guest18230: Hello.  Welcome to #ubuntu (Ubuntu Support Channel).
[14:36] <rohitkav> don't get it
[14:36] <oldude67> whats the easiest way to restart sound?
[14:37] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1651288/
[14:37] <SolarisBoy> thats mine
[14:38] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1651309/
[14:38] <rohitkav> SolarisBoy,
[14:39] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: ok so the file data is not right if it's the output you have there, it should look like mine.
[14:40] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: you also do not need to use sudo to edit that file it's your file - and any operation you are going to do will now fail unless you instruct git to not read the file - or you simply fix it - look at my example
[14:40] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: simply copy and paste the [user] section as you see it and replace the values of the 2 keys with your custom info -
[14:42] <JeroenDL> Can someone tell me why GREP gives this weird result? http://www.dauntless.be/p/bccd5326.png is it an encoding issue? (the 2 extra long lines are wrong)
[14:44] <vfw> SolarisBoy: He may also need to chown rohit ~/.gitconfig  #sence he edited it as su?
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> vfw: no
[14:45] <auronandace> JeroenDL: we don't support osx here
[14:45] <aleza84> Anyone tried ubuntu on a touch screen table/ultrabook like lenovo yoga?
[14:45] <JeroenDL> auronandace: I thought it would be a general linux thing, but I'll try my luck at an OSX channel then
[14:46] <away> or ##linux
[14:46] <MatthewL> I tried Ubuntu on my Android phone, aleza84.  Very cool.
[14:47] <vfw> *since
[14:48] <rohitkav> got SolarisBoy
[14:48] <rohitkav> thanks
[14:49] <george__> ok guys. Is there a way to reinstall libstdc++6 without having to reinstall the whole system?
[14:49] <vfw> SolarisBoy: Good to know.  Thanks.
[14:49] <Delux> trying to install Ubuntu server on a box with 6 HDDs. trying to make sdc1 the bootable partition but when GRUB boot loader tried to load it fails trying to load on /dev/sda
[14:50] <Delux> how to I get it to intall on /dev/sdc
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> rohitkav: vfw np your welcome
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> george__: a lot of things have dependencies on the c libs =)
[14:50] <vfw> SolarisBoy: BTW, I tested.
[14:52] <SolarisBoy> vfw: ok
[14:52] <george__> SolarisBoy: yes, i'm learning that. anyway. is it possible to do it? i'm really desperated here...
[14:52] <cnf> hmm, can't figure out how to make preseed do prefill but still ask the question
[14:52] <aleza84> MatthewL: any problems with the touch
[14:53] <SolarisBoy> george__: why do you need to reinstall it if you don't mind me asking
[14:54] <george__> SolarisBoy: because i've tried to upgrade it manually and now i have a broken system that can't boot to graphical mode
[14:54] <SolarisBoy> george__: ahh thats what i thought
[14:54] <SolarisBoy> george__: i would back up my stuff and go for the installation, im really not sure how you did the removal and install of the current version you have now so...
[14:55] <anathema_> is this driver for optimus cards wil be included to ubuntu? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-280.13-driver.html
[14:55] <dancuk> Hell o
[14:57] <dancuk> How to shutdown a UBANTO SERVER :D
[14:57] <SolarisBoy> george__: did you atleast do a installation of a deb file or install libstdc via some ppa or a somewhat normal method ?
[14:57] <mvt007geek> when we connect a usb where usb mount to?
[14:57] <DJones> dancuk: sudo shutdown -h now
[14:57] <Delux> trying to install Ubuntu server on a box with 6 HDDs. Trying to make sdc1 the bootable partition but when GRUB boot loader trieds to load during the install it fails trying to load on /dev/sda
[14:58] <alami> hello can i use wicd with the 12.10 default network manager?
[14:58] <dancuk> Djones: How about kill -9 -1 ? :D
[14:58] <tompkh_> need hlp with accessing external hdd (timecapsule) - xubuntu 12.04 sees the drive, asks for login/pass, but returns Got error "kFPAuthContinue" from server. Drive is perfectly accessible from other computers
[14:58] <Delux> why is it trying to go to sda?
[14:58] <alami> hello can i use wicd with the 12.10 default network manager?, because when i run wicd i can't see any wireless network
[14:58] <dancuk> Yes u can
[14:59] <alami> dancuk: but why when i run wicd i don't see any wirelles netweok
[14:59] <DJones> dancuk: I don't know about the kill command, I only ever use shutdown
[14:59] <SolarisBoy> Delux: how are you doing the installation and where are installing grub to at the end?
[14:59] <Ririshi> Hey guys!
[15:00] <dancuk> Alami: use #kill -9 -1
[15:00] <dancuk> It will shows all wireless network :D
[15:00] <nubcake> MatthewL, so ubuntu for phones has already been released? :o
[15:00] <SolarisBoy> dont do that...
[15:00] <bazhang> !behelpful | dancuk
[15:00] <zykotick9> alami: did you open the options in wicd and input wlan0 as your wireless?
[15:00] <alami> dancuk: are you kidding me
[15:00] <Delux> SolarisBoy - installing with CD-ROM and just following the menu - did not select where to isntall GRUB, not sure how
[15:00] <bazhang> dancuk, dont do that again
[15:01] <dancuk> Eheheheh
[15:01] <SolarisBoy> if you type "man kill" and go to examples you'll see that that command "kill -9 -1" will "Kill all processes you can kill." which can be very damaging and something you dont want to do
[15:01] <Ririshi> I've got an AMD Radeon HD7850 for my birthday and I've been on Windows 7 since then. But I was like: let's boot up my Ubuntu and try the performance. I can only use mirror displays and the display is showed as "laptop". I tried installing FGLRX from the proprietary drivers, but it gave me a "unsupported hardware" message in the lower right corner. Any help on this?
[15:01] <isaias> will you still be able to use the touchscreen if you install ubuntu on a Nexus 7 Tablet?
[15:01] <alami> zykotick9:yes
[15:02] <alami> zykotick9:i thing i have to remove to default network manager
[15:02] <Ririshi> Also, LSPCI
[15:02] <zykotick9> alami: i don't have any further suggestions then.  good luck.
[15:02] <Ririshi> oops.
[15:02] <isaias> anyone? :P
[15:02] <zykotick9> alami: removing N-M probably isn't a great idea...
[15:02] <Ririshi> Also, lspci | grep VGA gives me this: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 6819
[15:02] <tompkh_> hi all, could someone point me in the right direction with this? when accessing external hdd (timecapsule) - xubuntu 12.04 sees the drive, asks for login/pass, but returns Got error "kFPAuthContinue" from server. Drive is perfectly accessible from other computers
[15:03] <alami> zykotick9: okay i have another question
[15:03] <alami> do you know irssi-plugin-silc?
[15:03] <bazhang> alami, try asking in #irssi about that
[15:03] <Delux> SolarisBoy - installing with CD-ROM and just following the menu - did not select where to isntall GRUB, not sure how
[15:03] <DJones> !nexus7 | isaias Have you had a looks at this, thats mentions using the onscreen keyboard,
[15:03] <ubuntunub> hello guys i have a problem with a video files. i get an error when i try to install codecs for mpeg-4, it sais the packeg maybe is broken or interfear with some other packeges
[15:04] <Ririshi> it MAY interfere?
[15:04] <bazhang> ubuntunub, install what codecs from where
[15:04] <Ririshi> lol i'm nub.
[15:04] <SolarisBoy> Delux: it will ask you at the end of the CD based installation where to install grub to - you want to choose the proper disk at that point it may default to the first disk found which may be sda if your not paying attention
[15:05] <isaias> thank you!!
[15:06] <ubuntunub> ubuntu will download them for me but when i does gives me this error
[15:07] <pieterjan> hello everyone
[15:07] <bazhang> ubuntunub, what is the package name you are installing
[15:07] <pieterjan> i have a shell scripting question
[15:07] <ubuntunub> python 2.7 i thing
[15:07] <pieterjan> some regex problem I'm overlooking..
[15:07] <craigbass1976> There's a directory called PDF.  I'm trying to make a tar file of it's contents.  tar -cfv pdf-test.tar PDF/ gives me   tar: pdf-test.tar: Cannot open: Read-only file system, tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[15:07] <Sendoushi> how can i make a search on all the hard drive for a folder name?
[15:07] <bazhang> ubuntunub, python is not a codec
[15:08] <Sendoushi> on the terminal
[15:08] <Oneill> having trouble repairing grub
[15:08] <Oneill> i cant boot with live cd
[15:08] <ubuntunub> this program need to get the codecs wait i'll get the eror msg
[15:08] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: "Read-only file system" being key to that error...
[15:08] <craigbass1976> Sendoushi, find ./* -name "snoopy"
[15:08] <Oneill> goes to busybox
[15:08] <Sendoushi> craigbass1976: does that perform a hard drive search?
[15:08] <craigbass1976> zykotick9, I'm in my home directory
[15:08] <Oneill> cant boot with ubuntu secure remix, strange errors while booting like (GPIO error) and stuff
[15:08] <Pici> Sendoushi: find / -iname "something" -type d
[15:08] <Oneill> cant boot to boot-repar disc
[15:09] <Oneill> how can i fix grub
[15:09] <pieterjan> anyone an expert on greb and regular expressions?
[15:09] <pieterjan> grep* i mean
[15:09] <craigbass1976> Sendoushi, if oyu were in / when you ran it.  That's set to run down through the file tree from your current working directory
[15:09] <tompkh_> hi all, could someone point me in the right direction with this? when accessing external hdd (timecapsule) - xubuntu 12.04 sees the drive, asks for login/pass, but returns Got error "kFPAuthContinue" from server. Drive is perfectly accessible from other computers
[15:09] <Ririshi> How are those session like things you can open in Linux called?
[15:09] <Sendoushi> none of those codes working
[15:09] <Sendoushi> at least not getting anything
[15:10] <Sendoushi> i'm sharing a folder on parallels
[15:10] <Sendoushi> using ubuntu server
[15:10] <Pici> !enter
[15:10] <ubuntunub> python 2.7 need to install extra multimedia plugins mpeg-4 mp3 and xvid mpeg-4
[15:10] <pieterjan> ok, ubotto
[15:10] <Ririshi> Hoi pieterjan.
[15:11] <ubuntunub> and when i clicl install i get this Package dependencies can not be found
[15:11] <tomreyn> Ririshi: you are possibly referring to a vritual terminal, or temrinal window.
[15:12] <Ririshi> Something you can open up with ctrl shift f1-7 or smth.. I forgot the actual name and shortcut.
[15:12] <craigbass1976> zykotick9, craig owns /home/craig and has rwx on it.  the directory I'm trying ot tar is /home/craig/PDF and I'm running the command from within /home/craig/
[15:12] <Ririshi> And you can type in something to get a visual session instead of a terminal one.
[15:12] <YokoBR> hey guys, i'll install 12.04 instead of quantal... so i can downgrade xserver to 1.12
[15:12] <Pici> pieterjan: #regex probably would be the best channel to ask in
[15:12] <pieterjan> So I have a problem with regex, I'm looking for 'apple' or 'Apple' in a text file and want to return the line if I find those exact words. grep '\<apple\>\|\<Apple>\>' file.txt only returns all lines containing 'apple' but not 'Apple' and grep '\<apple\>|\<Apple>\>' file.txt seems to do nothing at all. What am I missing?
[15:13] <SnapSnap> I was messing around in my keys, thought I saw some I didn't need anymore so I removed them. Now "sudo apt-get update" returns the following: http://pastebin.com/jPijQBmW
[15:13] <Pici> !gpgerr | SnapSnap
[15:14] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: "read only filesystem" isn't the same as a permission denied.  are ANY of your partitions currently mounted read-only?  do you have multiple partitions mounted?
[15:14] <helmut__> hi
[15:14] <Ririshi> !virtualterminal
[15:14] <ubuntunub> bazhang can you help ?
[15:14] <Ririshi> lol.
[15:14] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone familiar with Windows 7 installer? should I format partition before hand to NTFS or leave space unallocated?
[15:14] <ubuntuaddicted> for dual booting
[15:14] <SnapSnap> Pici, but replace <key> with the key that's missing?
[15:14] <Pici> SnapSnap: exactly
[15:15] <SnapSnap> Pici, Thanks :)
[15:15] <ubuntunub> how can i remove codecs from
[15:15] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: you can do either. Although I think formatting a nice place before is better, because else it'd make another small partition of 100MB which is made for booting info and bitlocker.
[15:18] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: It's got an integrated partitioner, but when making a partition in there and installing it on there, it makes a partition to store boot info and for bitlocker (lock HDDs so that noone acceses them without your password). Also, don't forget to have a Live CD or USB, as Windows' bootloader overwrites GRUB.
[15:18] <mactheknife7> Can someone help? Trying to mount sd-card with an usb card reader.
[15:20] <tompkh_> hi all, could someone point me in the right direction with this? when accessing external hdd (timecapsule) - xubuntu 12.04 sees the drive, asks for login/pass, but returns Got error "kFPAuthContinue" from server. Drive is perfectly accessible from other computers
[15:20] <SnapSnap> Pici, worked like a charm. Thanks again
[15:20] <Pici> SnapSnap: great :)
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> win 7, format to NTFS before hand or leave partition unallocated?
[15:21] <et> I have a machine with suse installed and I want to replace it with ubuntu. It boots fine now, but whenever I try to boot from USB or DVD/CD the drive reads seem to be slow (takes ages to do anything). The media seem to be fine (work in other computers), and when the present OS (suse) is booted, i can read the contents of the drives fine.
[15:22] <Ririshi> et: the HDD reads? or from the CD?
[15:22] <et> cd/usb stick (tried both)
[15:23] <mactheknife7> I wonder if it needs a new driver too.
[15:23] <Ririshi> I mean, when you boot the cd/usb, the reads from usb/cd are slow? or that the live session reads from you HDD very slow?
[15:23] <et> there is no live session, because it takes ages to do anything
[15:24] <Ririshi> the booting itself is slow?
[15:24] <et> yes.
[15:24] <et> I basically can't boot.
[15:24] <Ririshi> So you haven't actually booted once from it? How long did you wait?
[15:24] <et> like an hour
[15:25] <Ririshi> oh, that's very slow indeed.
[15:25] <Ririshi> do you have new hardware?
[15:25] <et> no (2009)
[15:25] <ubuntuaddicted> windows 7, should I leave partition unallocated or format it to NTFS>
[15:25] <Ririshi> that's not as old as my old pc was... (2004) and that one booted live within 5 minutes.
[15:26] <ubuntuaddicted> no one has installed Win 7?
[15:26] <Ririshi> Seems to be stuck at reading it somewhere.. Did you check MD5 of the .iso?
[15:26] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: i already answered you.
[15:26] <et> Ririshi: i can boot fine from it on other machines
[15:26] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi,  i didn't see
[15:27] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: just scroll up a bit or do a ctrl+f search on your name :D
[15:27] <Ririshi> et: hmm, so it's not the CD/USB itself.
[15:27] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, ok, i saw your answer now. thanks
[15:27] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, it's going to be partition 2, primary. is that ok?
[15:27] <tompkh_> hi all, could someone point me in the right direction with this? when accessing external hdd (timecapsule) - xubuntu 12.04 sees the drive, asks for login/pass, but returns Got error "kFPAuthContinue" from server. Drive is perfectly accessible from other computers
[15:28] <et> i'm basically looking for a way to replace a running operating system with ubuntu (at least that's the only way that i see as possible now), but i'm not quite sure how to do it
[15:28] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: Well.. I had my 100MB partition (which was made because I didn't have ubuntu or any linux before windows 7) on sda1 and my windows 7 partition itself was on sda2 i believe. I then deleted sda1 and did a grub-update. It just booted fine, directly from sda2.
[15:29] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I have a thinkpad twist convertible running Kubuntu. Does anyone know how to set up auto-rotation of the screen when in tablet mode?
[15:29] <Ririshi> et: I think it is possible to mount a .iso somewhere on the disk using GRUB.
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, ok, i have ubuntu installed on sda1 and home is on sda5 I think, in the extended partition. so I shrunk my sda1 and left 20gb for windows 7 as unallocated
[15:30] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: Will you run win7 in 64 bit?
[15:31] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, yes
[15:31] <tomreyn> tompkh_: it's basically saying that your login credentials were incorrect there. there could be other reasons, but this is the most likely one.
[15:31] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, why?
[15:32] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: When installing it in 64 bits, you'd need more than 20GB if you actually want to do something on it.
[15:32] <tompkh_> tomreyn: thanks, but i checked, and re-checked, and changed the username/pwd like a hundered times, it works on my mac, and still gives me the error on xubuntu
[15:32] <Ririshi> Because the 20 is for the install itself..
[15:32] <tomreyn> tompkh_: caps lock maybe?
[15:32] <tompkh_> tomreyn: you mentionned other possible reasons?
[15:32] <tompkh_> tomreyn: nope, made sure of that, nor numlock :-)
[15:33] <Ririshi> I ve had the numlock problem once xD
[15:33] <subhojit777> Hello How can I have started a java process on a remote server. Now I want to stop the process. How to do it?
[15:33] <subhojit777> Hello, I have started a java process on a remote server. Now I want to stop the process. How to do it?
[15:34] <Ririshi> !spam | subhojit777
[15:34] <tomreyn> tompkh_: the other explanations i could come up with are protocol version mismatch between server and client, or broken implementation on either side. the protocol is descirbed here, including the result code you're seeing: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/networking/conceptual/afp/AFPSecurity/AFPSecurity.html
[15:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, really? i think it's 27 GB. i will shrink home and make a storage directory
[15:34] <Ririshi> goddamnit.
[15:34] <Ririshi> ubuntuaddicted: You just said 20 xD
[15:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Ririshi, i was just rounding. lol
[15:34] <subhojit777> Ririshi, I am not a spam
[15:34] <LaserShark> i am not a spam
[15:34] <LaserShark> that's a new one
[15:34] <Ririshi> subhojit777: you just said it twice.
[15:35] <subhojit777> I asked it incorrectly before
[15:35] <Ririshi> you didn't have to copy paste the whole sentence for that..
[15:35] <subhojit777> Ririshi,  sorry..
[15:35] <george__> SolarisBoy: ok, i was able to uninstall libstdc++6. Now, how do i reinstall it?
[15:35] <tomreyn> tompkh_: i think it boils down to that you should try to use a different client, or a different protocol / network file sharing implementation entirely.
[15:36] <d0k3n> Hello.
[15:36] <Ririshi> :p just being strict. Sorry for overreacting.
[15:36] <Ririshi> Hi d0k3n!
[15:36] <tompkh_> tomreyn: :-( any suggestions?
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> george__: have you cleared the sources which provided it previously? (the broken version)
[15:36] <cnf> damn preseed :/
[15:36] <d0k3n> What's being discussed?
[15:36] <Ririshi> 3 things at a time
[15:36] <yourimym1> hello i've used this sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[15:36] <yourimym1> how do i know that was done with no trouble   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1651812/
[15:37] <george__> SolarisBoy: how do i do it?
[15:37] <d0k3n> Anyone here uses Gnome?
[15:37] <bazhang> d0k3n, yes
[15:38] <tomreyn> tompkh_: as far as i know samba works acceptably well cross platform. and maybe NFS would also work on OS X, not sure (but i'd prefer NFS if both would work).
[15:38] <genii-around> yourimym1: I just returned to my computer. Your paste looks good, finally. The module was made.
[15:38] <d0k3n> My unity is kind of sluggish sometimes, reminds me of my vista desktop.
[15:38] <tompkh_> tomreyn: tnx, will look into it
[15:38] <d0k3n> Do you notice a big difference using Gnome?
[15:38] <Ririshi> dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu, problems with an external HDD and ...
[15:38] <bazhang> d0k3n, do you have an actual support question
[15:38] <d0k3n> No.
[15:38] <bazhang> d0k3n, unity is GNOME3
[15:38] <d0k3n> :O
[15:39] <yourimym1> but there's one problem i got nouevau back just to get my desktop until i repair this thing
[15:39] <d0k3n> I really need to read some.
[15:39] <d0k3n> brb
[15:39] <d0k3n> *something
[15:39] <genii-around> yourimym1: Yes, I know... it's a frustrating circle with the nouveau-nvidia drivers...
[15:39] <Oneill> Using Boot-repair tells me to try Ubuntu Secure Remix because i'm using RAID. but i can't boot on Ubuntu Secure remix because i get a bunch of stdin: I/O Error messages over and over again.... how can i repair my boot? =/
[15:40] <yourimym1> so what should the next step i do now , update & restart ?
[15:41] <olivier_bK> hy
[15:42] <geryon66> I'm using Lotus Notes on Precise (12.4.2). Locally everything works fine, but when I start Notes on a remote display through an ssh X11 tunnel, the window soon turns gray as if it is not responding, although everything else works fine. How can I turn that gray “shadow” off?
[15:42] <genii-around> yourimym1: Not yet please. Also, since it's busy here, please use my name when directing a message so that others know we are talking between us, and that I can know you are talking to me when i am in some other channel....
[15:42] <PrincessLuna> Anyone knows whether Ubuntu (Kubuntu) supports screen auto rotation?
[15:42] <yourimym1> jenni-around :there is a thing , the driver see my display as laptop , while am using normal pc
[15:42] <tomreyn> tompkh_: there's also #MacOSX here, you could check with them whether they have another option or know this issue.
[15:42] <olivier_bK> i have some question i get an error on my loop  and i dont no why there is some body can help me ?
[15:42] <genii-around> yourimym1: Do you have a file in the directory of /etc/modprobe.d/    which has "nvidia" somewhere in the name?
[15:43] <d0k3n> Ok so my question is, Is the comparison between gnome classic and unity equivalent to the comparison between windows classic theme and windows aero, in terms of performance?
[15:43] <bazhang> d0k3n, that varies, not really a support question at all
[15:44] <tomreyn> olivier_bK: what do you mean by "and error on my loop", what's a "loop" in this context?
[15:44] <yourimym1> genii-around: nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf this one
[15:44] <d0k3n> bazhang, ok. I'm just gonna try it and reach my own conclusion.
[15:44] <d0k3n> thank you anyway :)
[15:44] <genii-around> yourimym1: OK, good. This is the file which will prevent nouveau from loading
[15:44] <d0k3n> my laptop is really old
[15:45] <bazhang> d0k3n, better to try gnome-shell , gnome classic is going away
[15:45] <d0k3n> ok thank you bro, you are nice
[15:45] <genii-around> yourimym1: Does the line of: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"                 still exist in the file /etc/default/grub   ?
[15:46] <sriharsha> Hi, is anyone observing random hung-ups in GUI/CLI programs from the past 2 days with 12.04?
[15:46] <bazhang> sriharsha, which ones, be very specific
[15:46] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!  I'm trying to troubleshoot this apparmor issue.  I'm using libvirt, and i'm getting a denied, in my logs, I'm wondering how I can tell apparmor to allow that open operation
[15:47] <yourimym1> genii-around:yes still exist
[15:47] <sriharsha> bazhang, while I'm using Thunderbird or Firefox, the UI goes dark and I'm not able to use them.
[15:47] <josePHPagoda> the full error message is http://hastebin.com/vixubirece.rb
[15:47] <bazhang> sriharsha, check top in the terminal to see what is using up your processes
[15:48] <genii-around> yourimym1: Very good. Now, next... does the line of:  Driver  "nvidia"          still exist in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf     or is it now something like nouveau, or fbdev, or vesa  etc?
[15:48] <sriharsha> I'm also observing this with emacs and some with CLI programs (make,etc. although I can't really see) they take a bit longer..
[15:50] <olivier_bK> tomreyn, i got this error  Syntax error: Bad for loop variable and loop look like that for  ($i=0;  $i<=$ManyMountPoints; $i++);
[15:50] <olivier_bK> do
[15:50] <olivier_bK>   echo "Welcome $i times"
[15:50] <olivier_bK> done
[15:50] <sriharsha> bazhang, nothing particular infact.  But I got this in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/txc6UQfU
[15:50] <yourimym1>  genii-around: river		"nvidia"
[15:50] <yourimym1> driver*
[15:50] <bazhang> sriharsha, is this in a VM, or a machine with very limited ram?
[15:51] <Ririshi> i gotta restart my pc
[15:51] <sriharsha> bazhang, no; running on bare metal with 4 GB
[15:51] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1651935/
[15:51] <genii-around> yourimym1: Good!  All seems good then for a reboot.
[15:51] <george__> SolarisBoy: now i was able to reinstall libstdc++6 but, i still can't boot into graphical mode. any help?
[15:52] <sriharsha> bazhang, it wasn't happening before, I'm observing it from past 2 days
[15:52] <yourimym1> genii-around: any sudo update ??
[15:52] <DoWhileGeek> hello woahiohs
[15:53] <tomreyn> olivier_bK: post the shell script to a pastebin please
[15:53] <olivier_bK> okai sorry
[15:54] <fastrack> running a virtual server on my raspberry pi with qemu, badass?
[15:54] <bazhang> fastrack, offtopic here
[15:54] <sriharsha> fastrack, super badass.
[15:54] <hockry> noh
[15:54] <olivier_bK>  tomreyn http://pastebin.com/w4h16DmC
[15:55] <fastrack> whoops meant that for a different chan
[15:55] <Oneill> while booting ubuntu secure remix i get "I/O Space for GPIO uninitialized"
[15:55] <Oneill> any idea what that is?
[15:55] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hey all, when will ubuntu repositories provides LO 4 ?
[15:55] <hockry> ???
[15:55] <hockry> ubuntu is good
[15:56] <hockry> con rah
[15:56] <yourimym1> genii-around: thax man u just saved my ass
[15:56] <yourimym1> kisses from egypt xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
[15:56] <genii-around> yourimym1: Well, it was a long process but at last I guess you are good there :)
[15:56] <olivier_bK> kisses from egypt ??? thk
[15:57] <hockry> yes mong ving vong
[15:57] <bazhang> !ot | hockry
[15:58] <tomreyn> olivier_bK: the (($i=0;  $i<=$ManyMountPoints; $i++)) conditional syntax is a bashism, i don't think dash supports it. try this: http://pastebin.com/yXZzxm60
[15:58] <andygraybeal> how do i remove a user from a group with the command line?
[15:58] <LordChristoff> Hey, hows it going?
[15:58] <hockry> hey LordChristoff
[15:58] <andygraybeal> i'm looking at 'usermod' and i must be confused
[15:58] <LordChristoff> We all good?
[15:59] <hockry> yeh we all sweet as MUANG
[15:59] <bazhang> hockry, thats enough
[15:59] <andygraybeal> ah i found it, del user
[15:59] <bazhang> LordChristoff, this is ubuntu support. did you have a support issue
[15:59] <olivier_bK> tomreyn, it's working just bash and not sh pff..
[16:00] <olivier_bK> tomreyn, thank you very much
[16:00] <LordChristoff> I did not know this was a Support Channel :( Sorry
[16:00] <tomreyn> andygraybeal: deluser username group
[16:00] <NullVoxPopuli> hey\
[16:00] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hey all, when will ubuntu repositories provides LO 4 ?
[16:00] <NullVoxPopuli> I'm having major boot problems :-(
[16:00] <NullVoxPopuli> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1651978/
[16:00] <andygraybeal> tomreyn, thanks man.
[16:00] <NullVoxPopuli> boot repair gave me that paste
[16:00] <vfw> LordChristoff: There is #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <NullVoxPopuli> can anyone help?
[16:00] <hockry> anyone know proxy adins?
[16:01] <DJones> Safa_[A_boy]: From what I've read, LO4 will arrive with Ubuntu 13.04
[16:01] <bazhang> hockry, how is that related to ubuntu support
[16:01] <hockry> its a command in it
[16:01] <Safa_[A_boy]> DJones, thanks so much ^_^
[16:01] <hockry> proxy adins for ubuntu
[16:02] <vfw> !uefi | NullVoxPopuli
[16:02] <hockry> hello?
[16:03] <bazhang> hockry, stay on topic here
[16:03] <NullVoxPopuli> thanks, vfw, will read
[16:03] <hockry> im trying but very hard
[16:04] <bazhang> hockry, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat NOT here
[16:04] <NullVoxPopuli> I don't have bios settingsn
[16:05] <NullVoxPopuli> I'm running ubuntu on a macbook pro without OS X
[16:05] <NullVoxPopuli> after removing OS X, and moving the ubuntu partition to the beginning, that's when all this nasty started happening
[16:06] <geryon66> I'm using Lotus Notes on Precise (12.4.2). Locally everything works fine, but when I start Notes on a remote display through an ssh X11 tunnel, the window soon turns gray as if it is not responding, although everything else works fine. How can I turn that gray “shadow” off?
[16:07] <cnf> hmz, preseed isn't taking my network configuration
[16:09] <sriharsha> bazhang, looks like I'm having bad sectors on my disk according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/13952/system-locking-up-with-suspicious-messages-about-hard-disk
[16:10] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: So, sda1 sda2 sda3 and sda4 is all you really have now?
[16:10] <andygraybeal> how do i tell if an account has been used ... say i dunno, in the past 30 days?
[16:10] <josePHPagoda> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY. IT IS MANAGED BY LIBVIRT. <-- I see that in my apparmor profiles, how should I go about editing that file?
[16:11] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: The paste is very confusing.  Some of the reporting must be inacurate.
[16:11] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, I have sda6 - which is a dedicated partition to grub
[16:11] <Ohmage> hey guys once i add a ppa to my repository what exactly do i have to do to instal the package i want from it
[16:11] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, I actually jsut found an option in boot-repair to specify sda6 for grub, so, I'm trying that now
[16:12] <vfw> vfw: NullVoxPopuli Are lines 78-81 what you really have now?
[16:12] <tomreyn> Ohmage: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[16:12] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: So it is no longer efi?
[16:12] <Ohmage> thanks tom
[16:12] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw: sda1 is efi
[16:12] <tomreyn> Ohmage: you can also use your preferred grpahical package manager to do the same
[16:12] <andygraybeal> is there a file that gets touched when i login to the system?
[16:13] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw: sda1 is the standard mac EFI boot loader
[16:13] <andygraybeal> in my home folder
[16:13] <Ohmage> a graphical manager
[16:13] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: Then I'm not understanding lines 78-81
[16:13] <Ohmage> :D sounds good
[16:13] <Ohmage> what ones come in ubuntu
[16:13] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw: lemme look at teh paste, hang on
[16:13] <genii-around> josePHPagoda: http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Libvirt#Advanced_Usage looks informative
[16:13] <agu10^> when I ping my server from itself, it responds with < 2ms. When i ping it from another computer, however, it doesn't respond and lags until about 10 seconds after. And it responds to the 49th ping request or similar. Any ideas what's happening?
[16:14] <tomreyn> !package | Ohmage
[16:14] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw: ok, what's confusing?
[16:14] <josePHPagoda> genii-around: I already ready that.  The problem is libvirt overwrites my changes
[16:14] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw: it could be that I don't know what I'm looking at either
[16:14] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: If sda1 is the EFI boot partition, that is where grub goes.  (Look at the info in the URLs that ubutto sent you.)  (Look at those URLs and not me, because I am not an EFI expert.)
[16:14] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw: I have a boot flag on sda6
[16:14] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: I don't think the boot flag makes much difference any more.
[16:14] <Ohmage> tomreyn: im installing the new kernel from kamal to try and adress my brightness control screen issue
[16:15] <zykotick9> andygraybeal: have you checked the output of "last"?
[16:15] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: line 79 shows boot flag on sda2
[16:15] <csotelo> ..
[16:16] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: So, it's pretty confusing.
[16:16] <andygraybeal> zykotick9, awesome i will check i tout
[16:16] <NullVoxPopuli> sda2 is a mac install partition
[16:17] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, sda2 is a mac install partition
[16:17] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: sda1 SHOULD be the EFI partition.
[16:17] <josePHPagoda> genii-around: I tried adding it to the libvirt-qemu abstraction, but it doesn't seem to actually be applied :(
[16:17] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, sda1 is the efi partition
[16:17] <NullVoxPopuli> I don't know why it says sda6 is also one
[16:17] <andygraybeal> zykotick9, aweome
[16:18] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: Yea, I see that sda2 is listed as the mac os filesystem.
[16:18] <tomreyn> Ohmage: i don't know who or what "kamal" is, but i wish you luck. more likely, though, what you need is one of: (a) a vendor specific helper package, which you may need to configure for your specific hardware model or (b) a certain kernel parameter to load a module configuration specific to your gardware model
[16:18] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: Yea, I don't understand about sda6  That doesn't look right at all.
[16:18] <genii-around> josePHPagoda: Ah. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about this subject to be of much help.
[16:19] <josePHPagoda> no problem
[16:19] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, do I even need sda6? I just thought it might be easier to have a separate boot partition
[16:19] <josePHPagoda> i appreciate the help
[16:19] <josePHPagoda> it's just kind of puzzling
[16:19] <cnf> ARGL, damn preseed >,<
[16:19] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: It shows "Boot sector type:  Grub2"  in the sda2 section.
[16:20] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, the EFI only recognizes sda3 and sda2
[16:20] <tomreyn> Ohmage: or (3) a manual configuration of your special / multimedia keys, if that's how you are trying to control it.
[16:21] <vfw> NullVoxPopuli: I dono, you'll just have to look at the URLs ubottu sent you, but the bottom line is that grub will have to go in the efi partition (which is apparently sda1)
[16:21] <andygraybeal> zykotick9, i'm gonna checkout 'lastlog'
[16:21] <cnf> can't get static ip setup to work :/
[16:22] <bogor> I saw 3 tools to manage sysv based services ( chkconfig, update-rc.d, sysv-rc-conf ) and it seems like there could be more. Which one would you recomend
[16:24] <Ohmage> well i just got the kernel in and now my screen is dimmed to below visible
[16:24] <Ohmage> lol
[16:24] <NullVoxPopuli> vfw, ok. I'll see what happens. ha
[16:24] <Ohmage> bloody ubuntu so much work lol
[16:24] <zykotick9> bogor: i like rcconf (not the same as sysv-rc-conf), but you're aware ubuntu uses upstart right?
[16:24] <tomreyn> bogor: chkconfig is redhat-style, and i dont think it exists on ubuntu, so this can be ruled out.
[16:25] <george__> cant believe i fix it!
[16:25] <george__> i'm out of here
[16:25] <lcabreza1> tomreyn: you can install chkconfig on ubuntu though ..
[16:25] <cnf> so noone here use preseed?
[16:25] <tomreyn> lcabreza1: which package is it in then?
[16:26] <bogor> tomreyn: as i read , chkconfig can be installed in ubuntu with apt-get
[16:26] <zykotick9> !info chkconfig
[16:26] <Ohmage> i dunno whats happened to my ubuntu but whatever was in the kernel literally has nearly turned off my backlight completely
[16:26] <lcabreza1> tomreyn: sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[16:26] <Oneill> trying to boot Ubuntu Secure Remix gives me a bunch of Stdin: I/O Error
[16:26] <Oneill> how can I fix that? really need to fix my boot
[16:27] <zykotick9> lcabreza1: see ubottu above
[16:27] <tomreyn> bogor, lcabreza1: not on quantal
[16:27] <lcabreza1> zykotick9: yeah saw it..
[16:27] <lcabreza1> tomreyn: my bad ...im using precise ..
[16:28] <tomreyn> lcabreza1: not your fault, i don't think Ohmage stated his version
[16:28] <tomreyn> so i may as well be wrong
[16:29] <bogor> tomreyn: i did apt-get install chkconfig and it bought in the chkconfig. I am using ubuntu 12.04.1 lts
[16:29] <Ohmage> im 12.10
[16:29] <designbybeck> I can't find a good solution to convert an img to iso
[16:30] <designbybeck> the ccd2iso doesn't work
[16:30] <tomreyn> Ohmage: actually i meant bogor, sorry ;)
[16:30] <zykotick9> bogor: i'm not sure why you'd use a redhat tool on a debian-like system...  seems counter intuitive
[16:30] <Ohmage> lol
[16:30] <tomreyn> bogor: yes, you most likely don't want chkconfig (nor any of the other utilities you listed)
[16:32] <hockry> bogor what u using mang?
[16:32] <lcabreza1> designbybeck: use the mkisofs -f -r udf -o command
[16:32] <bogor> zykotick9, tomreyn : chkconfig seemed simple for me. I will read on upstart.
[16:32] <bazhang> !u > hockry
[16:32] <designbybeck> lcabreza1:  that will take the file and convert it?
[16:32] <bogor> hockry: manage mysqld and apache2 service
[16:33] <designbybeck> mkisofs -f -r udf -o nameoffile.img
[16:33] <designbybeck> lcabreza1: ^
[16:33] <tomreyn> bogor: just because it's simple doesn't mean you can actually use it without hell breaking loose
[16:33] <tomreyn> bogor: so yes, do read up on upstart first of all
[16:33] <lcabreza1> designbybeck: yes if it doesn't work ..use brasero
[16:34] <designbybeck> brazero will convert? or do I have to burn it first, and then ripp it off?
[16:34] <lcabreza1> designbybeck: it will convert it ..im not so familiar with its interface ..but i tried once before ..
[16:34] <designbybeck> ok I'll give a it a try lcabreza1
[16:35] <lcabreza1> designbybeck: by the way, whats the error you getting when ur using the ccd2iso?
[16:35] <lcabreza1> designbybeck: ccd2iso filename.img filename.iso
[16:35] <designbybeck> Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0! lcabreza1
[16:36] <designbybeck> yeah it seems the forums say that that command doesn't work with a log of .img distroes
[16:36] <tomreyn> designbybeck: run this: file filename.img
[16:36] <mengesb> Very generic question - wondering where the best place to get some questions answered about resize2fs would be ? and if someone here might be able to assist?
[16:36] <mengesb> I'm running a ramdisk based VM that has resize2fs, and on some of these VMs it would appear that it is blocking/hanging our VM
[16:37] <bcdonadio> I'm trying to config NFS4+krb5, but root_squash is being enforced, altough I explicitely set no_root_squash on exports. Therefore, all my IO as root is being seen as "nobody:nogroup". What am I doing wrong?
[16:37] <user12423> Hi, is ubuntu 12.04.2 released?
[16:37] <designbybeck> lcabreza1:  http://www.pasteall.org/39700
[16:37] <designbybeck> errr tomreyn http://www.pasteall.org/39700
[16:37] <mengesb> so I'm wondering if resize2fs uses a tmpfs or something of the likes, and if my VM has enough RAMDISK to support it
[16:38] <tomreyn> designbybeck: tis is a disk image with partitions in it, not a cd-rom image. use kpartx
[16:40] <mengesb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1652290/
[16:40] <designbybeck> so kpartx file1.img file1.iso tomreyn
[16:41] <designbybeck> I'm just trying to try out the Ubermix distro... but they only have the .img (which I find odd) tomreyn
[16:41] <designbybeck> tomreyn:  http://ubermix.org/
[16:41] <lcabreza1> designbybeck: are you trying it on a virtualbox ?
[16:43] <designbybeck> no lcabreza1
[16:43] <designbybeck> just ttrying to convert the img to iso so I can easily burn it to usb or cd/dvd
[16:43] <zykotick9> designbybeck: this .img is for a USB key, use dd to write it to a usb device...
[16:43] <tomreyn> designbybeck: you can write what you have on a usb key using dd
[16:43] <lcabreza1> designbybeck:you don't need to convert it ..you can use any dvd burner like brasero
[16:44] <designbybeck> zykotick9: that is to sketchy of a way to do it in my opinion
[16:44] <tomreyn> lcabreza1: this wouldn't work
[16:44] <zykotick9> lcabreza1: it's not designed as a cd image...
[16:44] <designbybeck> zykotick9:  more things that can go wrong if a basic user doesn't know which drive is mounted
[16:44] <zykotick9> designbybeck: that's the way the install instruction state.  this isn't an ubuntu issue!
[16:44] <lcabreza1> ok..
[16:45] <tomreyn> designbybeck: then download the OVA and use virtualbox, it's the most convenient way.
[16:45] <designbybeck> true I 'll drop the convo in here. Thank you for the feed back though guy
[16:47] <bad> hello fellas
[16:47] <bad> i want to know about where package is installed
[16:48] <mengesb> anyone available to help with a resize2fs crash: http://pastebin.com/S8zFnczg ??
[16:48] <zykotick9> bad: from terminal "dpkg -L foo"
[16:49] <bad> thanx
[16:49] <monst> Hello
[16:49] <kantlivelong> hey all.. is xinerama still required for dual cards to have multiple monitors?
[16:50] <bad> how to decrypt any package coding
[16:50] <lasers> kantlivelong: No.
[16:50] <monst> I am trying to resize a LVM extend a LVM partion for the second time. After resizing the Disk I dont see free space using vgdisplay to extend into? any ideas?
[16:50] <zykotick9> kantlivelong: if you want to use the 2 monitors as 1 big screen - then probably.
[16:50] <mengesb> anyone available to help with a resize2fs crash: http://pastebin.com/S8zFnczg ??
[16:50] <Dan1234> If i have windows 8 and windows 7 dual booted on an SSD, can I overwrite the windows 8 partition without problems?
[16:50] <kantlivelong> zykotick9: naw i just want to use 2x nvidia cards for total of 3 monitors
[16:51] <kantlivelong> i know it used to be required
[16:51] <bad> monst just delete previous one
[16:51] <monst> bad, there is data in the first extend
[16:52] <lasers> kantlivelong: You'll have 2 Xorg.  Sharing apps in two monitor + launching apps in one monitor.
[16:52] <zykotick9> kantlivelong: nvidia typically uses TwinView (which is there propritary version of xinerama).  but you didn't answer my question: do you want them as separate X sessions, or one big one - that you can drag windows between?
[16:52] <bad> so reduce its size
[16:52] <kantlivelong> zykotick9: one X session w/ 3 monitors for 3 workspaces that i can drag to
[16:53] <zykotick9> kantlivelong: then you'll want twinview/xinerama
[16:53] <kantlivelong> zykotick9: does it still have major performance hits like it used to?
[16:53] <zykotick9> kantlivelong: no clue.  i didn't know it was a performance hit...
[16:53] <monst> bad, months ago I added a 30GB to a 100GB drive, then filled it completely.  so I just added another 20GB
[16:54] <kantlivelong> zykotick9: i recall performance hits w/ xinerama and games
[16:54] <monst> how can I reduce the size of a full extended lvm?
[16:54] <kantlivelong> years ago
[16:54] <wNz> monst: lvresize -rl -10G /dev/volgroup/logvol (10g should be how much you want to reduce it by)
[16:54] <zykotick9> kantlivelong: for multimonitor setups with games, i always used a NULL value in xorg.conf - so when i started a game, it would disable all but one monitor.
[16:54] <wNz> monst: cannot be onlnie when done. unmount.
[16:55] <bad>  lvresize -rl -10G /dev/volgroup/logvol try this monst
[16:55] <kantlivelong> zykotick9: thanks :) i suppose ill test it with a friends card first
[16:56] <bad> how i decrypt package code
[16:56] <monst> can you guys explain why I want to reduce the size?
[16:56] <monst> I am trying to extend, I am so confuzed
[16:56] <monst> confused rather
[16:57] <gmachine_24> I need a clone a partition which is 500GB and has about 275GB of data. I tried using partimage but I needed somewhere to create a temporary image file - and I don't know if I can just do that on any drive or ....what.
[16:58] <bad> please tell me how i decrypt package code
[16:58] <gmachine_24> I meant I need to clone a partition; obviously. I've used clonezilla in the past but I have to disconnect all the drives on my computer that aren't source or target - otherwise they can get wiped out
[16:58] <zykotick9> gmachine_24: trying to "clone" onto the same drive isn't gonna work out well...
[16:58] <gmachine_24> zykotick9, exactly.
[16:59] <gmachine_24> zykotick9, so I need a 3rd drive........ ??
[16:59] <gmachine_24> bad, what kind of package are you trying to decrypt and do you mean unpack or decrypt
[16:59] <zykotick9> gmachine_24: well, if you had separate partitions it could work... or ya a different drive
[17:00] <gmachine_24> my biggest drive connected to this computer is only 1GB - and each of those have a 500GB partition.
[17:00] <gmachine_24> I'm sorry, 1TB
[17:01] <bad> is it possible to decrypt package code
[17:01] <gmachine_24> bad, what the heck are you talking about.???
[17:01] <bazhang> bad what package code do you mean
[17:01] <gmachine_24> if you encrypted it and have a password, then yes. otherwise, probably not.
[17:02] <bad> i want to decrypt a game code
[17:02] <bazhang> bad a crack?
[17:02] <bad> to understand it properly
[17:02] <gmachine_24> bad, so you want to crack a code. not the place for that.
[17:02] <bazhang> !illegal | bad
[17:02] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i have a question can anyone give me an answe r
[17:03] <bazhang> Ez0v3rR1d3, ask and find out
[17:03] <gmachine_24> Ezksjdfklsdjflkjsdkflsdj well I suppose it depends on the question
[17:03] <bazhang> gmachine_24, please tab complete
[17:03] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i got a linux version of video editing but i can get it to open even through my term any ideas what i should ddo
[17:04] <bazhang> Ez0v3rR1d3, whats the package name
[17:04] <gmachine_24> bazhang, ok, now I get to ask the silly simple question - what do you mean 'tab complete'?
[17:04] <bazhang> gmachine_24, type three or so letters then hit tab to complete the nick
[17:04] <Ez0v3rR1d3> cinelerra
[17:04] <gmachine_24> cinelerra is pretty advanced.
[17:05] <bazhang> Ez0v3rR1d3, what exactly are you trying to do with cinelerra
[17:05] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i make movies and i need a good editing program
[17:05] <gmachine_24> bazhang, you're my new hero. thanks. :)
[17:05] <bazhang> Ez0v3rR1d3, you should consider openshot
[17:05] <rexwin_> how to change nickname
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> rexwin_  /nick blah
[17:06] <Ez0v3rR1d3> i dominated AE and now i hate windows and love linux but dont have much to work with yet
[17:06] <bazhang> rexwin_, /nick newnick  though you will likely need to release that, ask in #freenode
[17:06] <ubuntu-user> init command is gone. how to reinstall?
[17:06] <bazhang> ubuntu-user, what init command
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-user  like sudo init 6 ?
[17:07] <ubuntu-user> init 0,5,6 was available previously, now they are gone after i installed some packages
[17:07] <ubuntu-user> yes, MonkeyDust
[17:07] <bazhang> ubuntu-user, you mean runlevels
[17:08] <ubuntu-user> yes
[17:08] <gmachine_24> Ez0v3rR1d3: they are testing to make a Lightworks version for Linux - they are in beta I believe. It's a wonderful program and will/should be available ...... 'soon' as they say
[17:08] <bazhang> !runlevels | ubuntu-user
[17:08] <sebastein_> hi all :)
[17:08] <gmachine_24> ho sebastein
[17:10] <MoPacGuest> Could anyone let me know what folder custom startup commands are stored in? I think that one of them is preventing me from  logging into my user account (guest account works), but I don't know how to locate/modify them from the outside
[17:10] <gmachine_24> Ez0v3rR1d3: Am I allowed to say I work with the ArtistX distribution because of its many multimedia tools . . .
[17:11] <luisms> hello, can anyone help me?
[17:11] <gmachine_24> including Cinelerra, etc.
[17:11] <gmachine_24> luisms, ask a question or state you problem, please. don't ask to ask a question.
[17:11] <tomreyn> !anyone | luisms
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-user  instead sudo init 0 or 6, use shutdown -h now or shutdown -r now
[17:11] <monst> wNz, hey man would you have a minute to do a google hangout? this LVM partion is throwing me for a loop.
[17:12] <wNz> monst: pm me
[17:12] <Ez0v3rR1d3> how can i put atristx on my linux i need some awesome software
[17:13] <luisms> Thanks, does anybody know if Ubuntu 12.04 LTS runs slower if I'm on the "try" mode with a USB pendrive?
[17:13] <MoPacGuest> What file by defautl contains the commands that you enter in the "startup applications" GUI?
[17:13] <gmachine_24> Ez0v3rR1d3: I will send you a private message
[17:13] <compdoc> you want a phone system?
[17:13] <Ez0v3rR1d3> thanks
[17:13] <zykotick9> luisms: running from USB is going to be SLOW
[17:13] <Ohmage> luisms they all boot fairly slow but once its up it all runs as if installed
[17:13] <Ohmage> from my experience neway
[17:14] <zykotick9> compdoc: artistx is a gnu/linux distro.  asterisk is a phone system ;)
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> luisms  USB is slower than an actual harddrive
[17:15] <luisms> The effects of Unity and all that fancy graphics is ok, but programs take a long time to load and, when I'm using them, they fade black (compiz way of saying they're not responding?). Will this vanish if I actually intall it on my HDD?
[17:15] <fastrack> hey can anyone here that knows anything about cluster computing *please* PM me?
[17:15] <et> how do i stop the ubuntu installer from trying to touch the partition table?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> fastrack  ubuntu server?
[17:16] <jusr> can someone pm me if they have time to help a first week linux user with a few questions?
[17:16] <bazhang> jusr ask here
[17:16] <jrib> jusr: just ask your questions in the channel
[17:16] <atlef> jusr, ask
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> jusr  better ask in the channel, so you won't get bad advice
[17:16] <fastrack> ok :(
[17:16] <fastrack> im just tired
[17:16] <fastrack> uhm, I have 2 computers equal power, 2 higher power
[17:16] <et> the installer is stupid and says "the installer needs to commit changes to partition tables" when it doesn't
[17:16] <fastrack> what do you think is ideal for the master?
[17:16] <aguuu> Why am i having this traceroute? pinging from ping.eu works just fine, but from home it has 96% packet loss. http://pastebin.com/E4WEd1Ua
[17:17] <bazhang> aguuu, using the amazon cloud server?
[17:17] <MoPacGuest> So my guest account is working, but when I log into my own account, the screen cycles through the NVidia splash and then back to the login screen.  I think this might be due to a custom startup command that has "wait 5" in it, but I have no idea how to remove that and test since I can't access the startup apps GUI. Help?
[17:18] <jusr> In Lubuntu, the latest stable release. I removed the powerdown/logoff/hibernate/etc/etc applet.  How do I get it back? Cannot find it in the pc or on the servers. Thanks
[17:20] <jetole> Hey guys. I write a lot of bash scripts and python tools for stuff I need to do. I'm setting one up on my machine now that I wrote on another machine / importing it and I was noticing it has a hard config dir of ~/.jetole_config. I'm wondering what's the best spot to move this to a more standard storage location. I see ~/.local/share ~/.config... well I guess those are the only two I am considering but I don't know which one ...
[17:20] <jetole> ... I should use. Is there a standard that defines what each one means and that's how I decide where to store the conf or is it just some programmers follow the method of using one of those dirs while other programmers use the other? Should I just use ~/my_app_name/ ?
[17:20] <jetole> ~/.my_app_name/ is what I meant but that seems more legacy
[17:21] <jrib> jetole: freedesktop.org xdg directories
[17:21] <zykotick9> jusr: "if" you don't get an answer here, you might want to try the #lubuntu channel (not many people, but they're probably more familiar with lxde/lubuntu)_
[17:21] <jetole> jrib: thanks. Could you elaborate on that a little?
[17:21] <jetole> jusr: how did you remove them?
[17:21] <jetole> zykotick9: has a point. I don't use lubuntu but curious since you asked
[17:21] <DoWhileGeek> Alright, I'm using marlin and when I do m501 it shows 63.36 for x steps per mm, I do m92 x57, then m501 and it shows 57.95?
[17:22] <DoWhileGeek> why doesnt it set itself to what I actually enter
[17:22] <jusr> I am customizing my panel after erasing the whole thing yesterday. Mistakes are fun for learning! Today I accidently removed it.
[17:22] <DoWhileGeek> oh derp, wrong channel
[17:22] <jrib> jetole: the site seems to be down.  But you'll find a standard there about how apps should use directories in a user's home
[17:22] <jetole> jusr: you're biggest mistake was not noting how you removed it but don't worry. We've all done it. Live and learn. That's what mistakes are for
[17:23] <jetole> jrib: uhm... ok. If the site is down, any chance you know and could possible give me the single line 101 to which dir?
[17:23] <jusr> jetole: I clicked on the panel and then clicked on remove panel items, then clicked on whatever applet it was an removed it by mistake.
[17:23] <jrib> jetole: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.8.html
[17:23] <MoPacGuest> Is there any option to dump a verbose log into a text file of what happens when you log in as a user from the login screen?
[17:24] <jetole> jrib: thanks
[17:24] <jetole> jusr: and you don't know which applet to restore?
[17:25] <jrib> MoPacGuest: why?
[17:25] <jusr> jetole: nope =( spent a half hour looking, even tried to download install something that does everything it did except let me logoff.
[17:25] <fastrack> Does anybody at all have the ability to answer my question about cluster computing?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> fastrack  is it ubuntu server?
[17:25] <fastrack> ubuntu desktop
[17:25] <MoPacGuest> jrib: There is some serious error going on when I try to login with my own account: it cycles to through the NVidia splash and then back to login. Guest account works, though
[17:25] <fastrack> which shouldn't matter based on the question
[17:25] <jetole> jusr: take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#Revert_power.2BAC8-logout_button_back_to_LXpanel
[17:25] <jrib> MoPacGuest: check ~/.xsession-errors
[17:26] <MoPacGuest> jrib: I think maybe it's related to a startup applications command script, but I've had no luck finding where that's stored or modifying it from Guest
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> fastrack  put details of your issue in one line and repeat it every 10 minutes or so
[17:26] <jusr> jetole: how do you find those references so fast. I am bad at google =(
[17:26] <jrib> MonkeyDust: the startup applications end up in ~/.config/autostart
[17:26] <fastrack> sounds like it will work MonkeyDust.
[17:26] <fastrack> nope
[17:26] <jrib> MoPacGuest: above was for you
[17:26] <MoPacGuest> jrib: Is that within the user's home folder?
[17:26] <jetole> jusr: I'm not. that's how
[17:26] <jrib> MoPacGuest: by "~" I mean the user's home folder
[17:27] <jusr> jetole: Thank you for your help. Live and learn. =)
[17:27] <MoPacGuest> jrib: Is there any way to read/modify that from the default guest account, with its limited (no sudo) permissions?
[17:28] <jrib> MoPacGuest: you can read it, but you won't be able to write to it.  If you're comfortable on the command-line, hit ctrl-alt-f1 and log in there as your "broken" user.  ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back to X
[17:29] <zykotick9> MoPacGuest: actually when in a Virtual Console, you only need alt+f7 to get back or alt+ARROWKEYS
[17:29] <jetole> jusr: np. The first item on the google search (http://goo.gl/ri5Na) went to http://goo.gl/8rGVj. I did a search on the page for power and found "Revert power/logout button back to LXpanel" which said "Moved to Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login" which the last part was a link to http://goo.gl/vgqsy. I did another search for power and saw "Revert power/logout button back to LXpanel" in the table of contents which linked to it, which ...
[17:29] <jetole> ... was good since the link uses an anchor so I could use that url from the link to direct you to the specific section of the page.
[17:29] <jetole> jusr: that's how I found it so fast
[17:30] <jetole> jusr: and since I don't use lubuntu, I hope it works because I really don't know if it's the right thing exactly but it does sound like it
[17:30] <jetole> jusr: good luck
[17:30] <jusr> jetole: I opened leafpad, then the first command line and hit enter...
[17:31] <jusr> jetole: Is this the first step?
[17:31] <jetole> that sounds like a good start
[17:31] <jetole> I don't know
[17:31] <jetole> jusr: I think it's telling you which file to open with leafpad
[17:32] <jusr> jetole: how do I logout in command line?
[17:32] <zykotick9> jusr: exit
[17:32] <jetole> jusr: it looks like leafpad is a text editor. I prefer vim but vim IS NOT!!!! for newbies
[17:32] <jetole> ctrl+d
[17:32] <jetole> or exit
[17:32] <jetole> or logout
[17:32] <jetole> or close it
[17:32] <jusr> jetole: we are learning vim in school.
[17:32] <jetole> they teach vim in school? nice
[17:32] <zykotick9> hjkl 4 life ;) </ot>
[17:32] <jusr> jetole: one other thing, i was told to save that file, as what?
[17:32] <jusr> Mct
[17:33] <jetole> I learned it via live in learn eons ago. well started with vi cause either there was no vim at the time or the author of the book I was reading didn't know
[17:33] <jetole> I assume as that same file
[17:33] <jetole> thats the file your editing
[17:33] <jusr> oh, i screwed up. I got it now.
[17:34] <jusr> tried to leafpad the second command I was supposed to terminal
[17:34] <jetole> cool. Hope it works. Again I don't use lxde so I can only help so far
[17:34] <ubuntu-user> how to install a mail server?
[17:35] <jetole> ubuntu-user: sudo apt-get install postfix is one of many ways
[17:35] <MoPacGuest> Sorry for the abrupt disconnect. What I press ctrl-alt-F1, whether from within session or login screen, my screen goes black, no prompt, and the system appears dead except for the keyboard backlight
[17:35] <ubuntu-user> what about sendmail?
[17:35] <jetole> ubuntu-user: other options I know are: sudo apt-get install exim OR sudo apt-get install sendmail (not recommended)
[17:35] <jetole> ubuntu-user: it's an option but not a good one
[17:36] <OerHeks> ubuntu-user, good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/email-services.html
[17:36] <ubuntu-user> okay
[17:36] <ubuntu-user> both postfix and sendmail are MTA right?
[17:36] <jetole> sendmail is old and many people consider it legacy. many people consider it insecure. It's arguable if it's either but I tend not to pick software that it's at least being debated if it's legacy or insecure
[17:36] <jetole> ubuntu-user: yes
[17:37] <jetole> ubuntu-user: what's your problem in more of a whole problem, less technical point of view
[17:37] <jetole> ?
[17:37] <jusr> jetole: I did as the webpage asked. Now I have to figure how to logout and back in with command line.
[17:37] <ubuntu-user> i just want to send mail from my machine
[17:38] <llutz> !info ssmtp| ubuntu-user:
[17:38] <llutz> !info ssmtp  | ubuntu-user:
[17:39] <jetole> ubuntu-user: don't make your machine the MTA to all other mail servers. proxy through gmail or something
[17:40] <jetole> ubuntu-user: I have my home machine running sendmail which connects to gmail and sends via my account. You can set your home machine up to do this but I also manage mail servers at work and I know the one thing you can't avoid. Spam lists exist that will block all mail sent from residential / non business accounts. Most ISP's are cooperative in maintaining this and the ones that aren't don't matter anyways since the people ...
[17:40] <jetole> ... who maintain the lists can easily find out
[17:41] <YokoBR> downgrading to ubuntu 12.04 to install fglrx legacy drivers
[17:41] <jetole> ubuntu-user: that means many mail servers won't accept mail from your machine just because of the IP. Spamhaus PBL is one of the ones I know off the top of my head and if you use spamhaus zen list then it references PBL too. I believe spam eating monkey has one too and I know of one more but can't remember who.
[17:43] <llutz> jetole: no serious mailserver would accept mails from DUN-IPs
[17:43] <HackerZedi> Test1
[17:43] <jetole> llutz: you mean dial up?
[17:44] <llutz> yes
[17:44] <jusr> I can not figure how to log out as the current user in command line
[17:44] <llutz> jetole: where dialup includes xDSL, cable etc with dyn-ips
[17:44] <jetole> llutz: in 2002 yeah. Today no serious mail server accepts it from residential whether it be DUN, cable, DSL or in one instance I know one of the subnets assigned to my office via metro ethernet is on residential black lists
[17:45] <zykotick9> jusr: type "exit"
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> or CTRL+D
[17:45] <jetole> llutz: you're a little behind. the dynamic aspect is irrelavent and technically it's not just residential either but also business class on non carrier networks
[17:46] <jusr> zykotick9: I am not trying  exit the terminal. I am trying to logoff as the user via command line
[17:46] <jetole> llutz: we have a /28 public subnet assigned business class to our office that is on PBL's
[17:46] <jetole> jusr: ctrl+d
[17:46] <jetole> it's the same as logout
[17:46] <jetole> or exit
[17:46] <zykotick9> jusr: like restart the gui you mean?  "sudo service lightdm restart"
[17:46] <Pici> jetole: theres no real difference.
[17:47] <jetole> either way, that users shell ends and whatever shell you were running when you became that user is returned to you
[17:47] <jetole> Pici: I didn't say there was
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> i think he means log out of the desktop session
[17:47] <Pici> jetole: whoops, wrong person ;)
[17:47] <jetole> lol
[17:48] <jusr> I am logged in as a standard user, trying to find the terminal command for logging out of the gui so I can log back in
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> not sure on that one
[17:48] <jusr> SolarisBoy: right,sry
[17:48] <jetole> jusr: there isn't a standard terminal command for that. You can do it but not clealy. You would have to kill the X PID
[17:48] <zykotick9> jusr: "sudo service lightdm restart"
[17:49] <fidel> jusr: you could restart lightdm/gdm
[17:49] <jusr> I do not allow this account sudo priveleges.
[17:49] <zykotick9> jusr: reboot then?
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> lol
[17:49] <jusr> zykotick9: was going to try that and will... just trying to learn more commands =) thanks
[17:50] <jetole> jusr: try ctrl+alt+backspace. It's disabled by default in ubuntu now but don't know how it applies to lubuntu
[17:50] <jetole> jusr: better idea
[17:50] <jusr> hmm, this is so much fun, linux. Been free of mcrsft for a week now.
[17:51] <monst> wNz pm when you have a minute
[17:51] <jetole> run: pidof ps -C Xorg -o pid --no-headers | tr '\n' ' ' | xarg kill -9
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> that kind of looked like mscruft
[17:51] <jetole> jusr: though that may need root
[17:51] <jusr> jusr: yea, this account is allowed no access to root or anything without logging off i think. trying for a secure system
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> *xargs
[17:52] <jetole> jusr: whatever your users name is run: pkill -9 user_name
[17:52] <jusr> will just reboot for now.
[17:52] <jusr> seems linux commands have some history in muds.
[17:52] <jetole> jusr: I don't know how secure this sounds if it can't exit the GUI. sounds more like a bug
[17:52] <TheGrey> o/ I have excrudingly slow wifi..please can you help me. I use the ath9k driver and my wireless wifi is AR928X...Everything was working, but I decided to change rc.local, by adding a line to it. I rebooted twice. There was slow wifi. I removed it and rebooted. The slowness is still there. Could the impact of adding the code to the rc.local, affected anuthing else? I've removed those lines, but still evyerhting is really slow. Code was: iwconfig wlan2 ra
[17:52] <TheGrey> te 54M
[17:52] <jusr> I played a text based video game for 19 years before trying linux.
[17:53] <jetole> jusr: I guess. I'm not a big gamer. I've had a few I've come across over the years that I liked but for the most part I don't play and kind of just didn't take to mus
[17:53] <ns-nazri> what the best software download video in internet e.g youtube
[17:53] <jusr> jetole: I deleted my logoff applet, need to logout/back in to restore it after the leafpad commands.  Was just trying to take the percise route rather than cheat with shut down power on.
[17:53] <jetole> * muds
[17:53] <jetole> jusr: 12:52 < jetole> jusr: whatever your users name is run: pkill -9 user_name
[17:54] <jusr> Thanks everyone!
[17:54] <jetole> jusr: wait
[17:54] <jetole> run: pkill -9 "$(id -nu)"
[17:55] <jetole> that should do it
[17:55] <ns-nazri> what the best software download video in internet e.g youtube
[17:55] <llutz> jetole: pkill kills processes, not users
[17:55] <jusr> pkill -9 $(username -nu)
[17:55] <jusr> correct?
[17:56] <jetole> np
[17:56] <jetole> * no
[17:56] <jetole> copy and paste what I did: pkill -9 "$(id -nu)"
[17:56] <fidel> ns-nazri: youtube-dl is nice
[17:56] <llutz> pkill -u $USER         if you really want that
[17:56] <fidel> ns-nazri: in general: there is "no-best" ;)
[17:56] <jetole> or what llutz did but which works 99.9% of the time
[17:56] <TheGrey> anyone? ;_;
[17:56] <ns-nazri> fidel : i install youtube-dl is not working
[17:57] <ns-nazri> fidel : how can run
[17:57] <jetole> ns-nazri: did you check the "lacking details in explanations" check box?
[17:57] <llutz> jetole: while "pkill -9 "$(id -nu)" never works until you have processes named like your user
[17:57] <fidel> ns-nazri: youtube-dl -t INSERT-YOUTUBE-URL-HERE
[17:57] <jetole> llutz: you're right
[17:57] <fidel> ns-nazri: its a cli-application
[17:57] <jusr> pkill didnt work.
[17:58] <jetole> jusr: llutz is right. run: pkill -9 -u "$(id -nu)"
[17:58] <jusr> Ok, I will ask how do I shut down my pc with LXTerminal
[17:58] <jetole> jusr: I forgot a option
[17:58] <defunkt> I am working in a high density wireless environment, is there any way we can tell our linux devices to prefer 5.8Ghz over 2.4Ghz?
[17:58] <zykotick9> jusr: do you have sudo?
[17:58] <fidel> jusr: without sudo again?
[17:58] <jetole> jusr: without root you press the power button but try what I just updated
[17:58] <ns-nazri> fidel : ok i test
[17:58] <jusr> didnt work
[17:58] <jetole> jusr: I forgot something on the first one I listed
[17:59] <jetole> did it give an error?
[17:59] <fidel> jusr: with sudo one way would be: sudo shutdown -h now
[17:59] <fidel> too late ;)
[17:59] <jetole> fidel: lol. Another one, kind of more 21st century is sudo poweroff
[17:59] <OerHeks> alt.gr + printscreen + K to hard logout
[17:59] <fidel> jetole: i love shutdown ;)
[18:00] <jetole> I remember the good ol' days of shutdown -r -n now but today I just use the reboot command
[18:00] <jusr> that worked
[18:00] <jetole> fidel: not enough. You're in IRC
[18:00] <jusr> Thank you!
[18:00] <jetole> jusr: which one?
[18:00] <fidel> jetole: but yeah there are several ways ...i know at least some of them and thats enough  for me ;)
[18:00] <jetole> jusr: what I said or what llutz said or what fidel said
[18:00] <malimbar> does someone know of a decent graphing app? so I could replace a calculator with my computer?
[18:00] <jusr> pkill -9 -u "$(id -nu)"
[18:01] <jetole> ah
[18:01] <jusr> Going to google what all that meant.
[18:01] <jetole> cool
[18:01] <jusr> Unless you can direct my to a very indepth command line resource for linux and LXTerminal?
[18:02] <fidel> malimbar: can you define graphing?
[18:02] <jetole> pkill kills a bunch of processes. -9 is a very hard kill type that the program can't catch and escape out of (forget specifically what the signal means but try man 7 signals if your curious. -u says which user and it can be a UID number or a user name. $() is the proper method of running a command inside another command in bash. We placed quotes around it. id -nu is the command to print your user name
[18:02] <malimbar> as in able to make 3d graphs, and solve math problems using them
[18:03] <squig> malimbar, its a computer :D its what it does
[18:03] <jetole> fidel: I think the term graphing calculator is a standard meaning a specific type of calc that both TI and HP are famous for producing. I remember it vaguely from math forever ago but not sure so don't quote me
[18:03] <jusr> -u to kill a user, -9 is the highest tier kill type? -nu to signify user as me?
[18:03] <fidel> malimbar: random apt-hit is: kalgebra - sounds like a kde-thing
[18:04] <malimbar> fidel: does it still integrate with ubuntu though? I don't mind having extra wasteful libraries right now
[18:04] <fidel> jetole: afain there are hp-simulators as well ...but never messed aroundwith them myself
[18:04] <fidel> *afaik*
[18:04]  * malimbar installing now
[18:05] <jusr>  can you explain the "$(id -nu)"
[18:05] <squig> if you dont mind spending money there are obviously the very powerful mathematics programs, eg mathematica
[18:05] <geryon66> jusr: id -nu   prints your user name
[18:05] <jetole> jusr: I just ran man 7 signal since I forgot what -9 means. I know I said man 7 signals but I was wrong. It's signal, singular. -9 is the kill number for the kill code SIGKILL. The man page says "The signals SIGKILL and SIGSTOP cannot be caught, blocked, or ignored." meaning the apps you are killing cannot catch them and escape out of them
[18:06] <geryon66> jusr: The $() around it inserts the result into the other command.
[18:06] <zykotick9> jusr: the $() means run this as a command, and the command is "id -nu" which should return the username
[18:06] <jetole> fidel: yeah I don't care about the calc. gcalc is enough for me most the time and when it's not I either use bc or python
[18:07] <jetole> jusr: id -nu is a command, by placing it inside $() it means run this command place the results inside these quotes so the top command we are running, it only sees pkill -9 -u "jusr"
[18:07] <jetole> jusr: run id -nu from a terminal now
[18:07] <jetole> then run id without any quotes
[18:07] <jetole> er I meant without any options
[18:07] <geryon66> I'm using Lotus Notes on Precise (12.04.2). Locally everything works fine, but when I start Notes on a remote display through an ssh X11 tunnel, the window soon turns gray as if it is not responding, although everything else works fine. How can I turn that gray “shadow” off?
[18:09] <AwAk3e> Hello I was following a tutorial on a mailserver (iRedMail) and have since removed it as it isn't needed anymore, and removed the users it created doing so. However when I try run apache now I get "apache2: bad user name iredadmin". I tried changing User ${APACHE_RUN_USER} to User www-data as with the group but the error still persists. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance
[18:09] <jetole> geryon66: it sounds like one of too things, neither one has a solution. Either your remote display is waiting for the content to be sent. Remote displays take longer. This doesn't sound like the case though. It sounds like lotus notes may just not be designed to work like so
[18:10] <isaias> if ubuntu can be installed on a Nexus 7, a Nexus 10 wouldnt be much of a problem, would it?
[18:10] <malimbar> fidel: KAlgebra looks like exactly what I need! thanks.
[18:10] <xibalba> hey folks, i added the following to my /etc/fstab but it did not mount the NFS volume upon boot up. However when I logged in and ran 'sudo mount -a' it mounted just fine, any thoughts? 192.168.1.53:/mnt/stor01/zcs-hsm   /opt/zimbra/hsm        nfs     ro      0       0
[18:10] <fidel> malimbar: good to hear ;)
[18:10] <jusr> jetole: what I took out of that was this. kill whattype user "command designating user"
[18:11] <geryon66> jetole: what exactly causes the window fading gray, is it Compiz?
[18:11] <fidel> malimbar: to be honest - i never used it - it was the result of a quick apt-cache search ;)
[18:11] <jetole> jusr: for the most part
[18:12] <jetole> geryon66: it could be. Or it could be lotus. or it could be something else. I would say eliminate all possibilities and worst case scenario, if it won't run over ssh then use vnc
[18:12] <jusr> jetole: command line is exactly like command line in a text based video game
[18:12] <jetole> geryon66: run: grep -riIl "iredadmin" /etc/apache2/
[18:13] <geryon66> jetole: The interesting thing is, it runs just fine, only with that gray overlay on it.
[18:13] <jetole> geryon66: that will tell you which files contain the line the line iredadmin
[18:13] <xibalba> anyone, on mounting NFS volumes at boot?
[18:13] <jetole> oops
[18:13] <jusr> dash eee @target bash.  You move east three spaces at -9, you bash @target.
[18:13] <jetole> geryon66: wrong person
[18:13] <jetole> AwAk3e: run: grep -riIl "iredadmin" /etc/apache2/
[18:13] <jetole> AwAk3e: that will tell you which files contain the line the line iredadmin
[18:13] <fidel> jusr: in case you are new to linux and willing to test a lot of stuff without having fear wrecking it - take a look at virtualbox. having a virtual playground really helps at the beginning ;)
[18:14] <jusr> Thats what we are doing in class.
[18:14] <jusr> Can I virtual box a version of linux, in linux?
[18:14] <jusr> I was virtual boxing centos using microshut.
[18:14] <fidel> jusr: yep
[18:14] <jusr> Using a eeepc by the way
[18:15] <AwAk3e> jetole: These two files are found /etc/apache2/conf.d/iredadmin.conf
[18:15] <AwAk3e> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl, however I'm not using the default-ssl configuration. Is apache2 using iredadmin.conf by default?
[18:15] <llutz> AwAk3e: if it is is  /etc/apache2/conf.d/ it will use it
[18:15] <xibalba> too much chatter
[18:15] <jetole> AwAk3e: by default, if I'm not mistaken, apache uses everything in conf.d
[18:16] <AwAk3e> That seems to be the only conf file in there besides roundcubemail.conf which I installed when following the tutorial for iRedMail
[18:17] <jusr> oops
[18:17] <apg> ping sentabi
[18:17] <jusr> Can I ask more questions here or should I find a more newbie channel?
[18:17] <fidel> !ask | jusr
[18:17] <apg> !ask
[18:17] <jusr> !ask
[18:18] <apg> !patience
[18:18] <jusr> !patience
[18:18] <jusr> Gotcha. Thank you.
[18:19] <jusr> I know how to use windows to take a disk image of lubuntu and a usb.. so I can boot/install from that usb.  What program does the same thing for ubuntu?
[18:21] <fidel> jusr: in case of virtualbox - just use the .iso itself.
[18:21] <jhutchins_wk> jusr: cat or dd.
[18:21] <jhutchins_wk> jusr: cat <imagefile> /dev/sdX
[18:21] <jhutchins_wk> jusr: cat <imagefile> > /dev/sdX
[18:22] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: that does become a slight issue for ubuntu users, as sudo can't deal with the >.  thus "sudo -i" followed by command is required...
[18:22] <jetole> jusr: for the record, this pretty much is aa newbie channel
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: Can you quote it?
[18:23] <jetole> jusr: and if it wasn't, IRC etiquette says if no one tells you to shut up then keep talking
[18:23] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i don't think so.  sudo doesn't like redirects, thus tee is used for text files...
[18:23] <jusr> started Irc in 96, been afk for 10 years.
[18:23] <AwAk3e> Ah well I managed to fix it by running the script here http://www.iredmail.org/forum/topic333-iredmail-support-faq-how-to-uninstall-iredmail.html thank you guys for the help. It was much appreciated!
[18:23] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: sudo sh -c 'cat foo > bar'
[18:23] <jetole> jusr: how was jail?
[18:24] <zykotick9> llutz: nice
[18:24] <jusr> lol, wana go there?
[18:24] <jetole> not today. Ask me tomorrow
[18:24] <jetole> trying to think of any other reason a person would be afk for 10 years and nothing comes to mind so, how was it?
[18:24] <jetole> jusr: have fun?
[18:26] <jusr> Fun? Hard life traveling the country. Hard. Life experience -9? yes.
[18:26] <bazhang> !ot | jetole jusr
[18:28] <waheedi> am i missing anything here http://pastebin.com/xataNmyd
[18:29] <waheedi> this is a normal service conf file
[18:29] <waheedi> the same line works perfect on the foreground
[18:31] <Catbuntu> Hi.
[18:31] <Catbuntu> When is Ubuntu 12.04.2 released?
[18:35] <GeekSquid> Catbuntu: 12.04.1 was kinda a service update for the installer, to improve it, and while other releases have had .2 .3 and .4, 12.04 will probably stay at .1 .... although it is still updated regurlarly
[18:35] <asd123asdqwe> Hello! Can I create something like shortcut in Ubuntu. It should start terminal with command.
[18:35] <Catbuntu> No.
[18:35] <Catbuntu> 12.04.2 was scheduled for 2013-01-31.
[18:35] <Catbuntu> I think they delayed it until today...
[18:36] <genii-around> waheedi: Maybe you want something about rc-sysinit there so it starts after apache/httpd is started
[18:36] <GeekSquid> Catbuntu: where did you see that?
[18:36] <geryon66> waheedi: What exactly is not working?
[18:36] <waheedi> geryon66:  it just keeps restarting
[18:36] <waheedi> without telling me anything and i tried running with strace nothing really looks wrong with it
[18:36] <Catbuntu> I don't remember.
[18:36] <asd123asdqwe> Now I run Terminal and copypaste command, can I automate it?
[18:36] <Catbuntu> Also, there's a daily build for 12.04.2.
[18:37] <waheedi> genii-around:  i think that's a good idea to start it after apache starts
[18:37] <geryon66> waheedi: Does it give any error messages in a log file?
[18:37] <waheedi> nothing at all geryon66
[18:37] <GeekSquid> Catbuntu: sounds bleeding edge to me, daily builds are testing builds and not considered stable
[18:37] <trism> Catbuntu: the images seem to be up already, probably have the official announcement in a bit: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[18:38] <asd123asdqwe> Guys?
[18:39] <GeekSquid> Catbuntu: I was wrong, they have uploaded new images today for the 12.04.2 release
[18:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> having a bit of issue mirrorring a site; was doing fine with wget, the java app in the page worked totally. started with httrack and now can't get the app to work
[18:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Sazpaimon: of sonicculT fame?
[18:41] <Sazpaimon> How would I install ubuntu on an EFI-based machine that has a single drive containing windows?
[18:41] <waheedi> geryon66:  how can i get any error message from this
[18:42] <Sazpaimon> I've read previously that grub2 will format the EFI system partition, wiping out the windows boot manager
[18:42] <compdoc> Sazpaimon, does the drive use a gpt partition type?
[18:42] <Sazpaimon> compdoc, yes
[18:42] <Catbuntu> Cool!
[18:42] <compdoc> Sazpaimon, should work - ubuntu can instal and boot from that
[18:42] <Guest30045> can someone help me with installing mupen64 plus?
[18:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> well the grub will load either ubuntu or windows at your choice
[18:42] <Sazpaimon> basically, sda has 3 partitions, a "recovery partition", Im assuming that's MS's reserved partition, an EFI system partition, and the OS partition, and unpartitioned space after that
[18:43] <Blinkiz> Hello. I have an delay in audio when playing videos. Does it exist a setting where I can delay audio in milliseconds? The problem is with all players, vlc, mplayer..
[18:43] <DuncanT1> Hi. I'm trying to run pbuilder on a machine behind a firewall, so I need to set http_proxy for all processes that start inside pbuilder... where can I set it please?
[18:43] <Sazpaimon> if I install ubuntu on that unpartitioned space, will grub2 and the windows boot loader coexist?
[18:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubuntu will install to the unp. space likely
[18:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, grub will take over
[18:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> windows what? xp, vista, seven?
[18:43] <Sazpaimon> 8
[18:43] <DuncanT1> (more accurately I'm using cowbuilder)
[18:43] <geryon66> waheedi: Have you looked in /var/log/upstart/varnish.log* ?
[18:44] <Sazpaimon> and remember the system is in EFI mode
[18:44] <GeekSquid> Blinkiz: VLC has a delay function... often with DIVX/XVID the video is encoded in a way that the audio will not line up
[18:44] <waheedi> geryon66:  yeah but actually it didn't create that file
[18:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> fail. no idea about 8, but shat I know of it is it should work.
[18:44] <Blinkiz> GeekSquid, ok, it does not exist a general setting in.. eeh.. pulseaudio or something?
[18:44] <waheedi> geryon66:  created it manually and it didn't report anything
[18:45] <geryon66> !anyone Guest30045
[18:45] <Sazpaimon> I assuming that if grub2 gets installed in the EFI system partition, it will add a chainloader entry to load up bootmgfw.efi
[18:45] <trism> DuncanT1: for pbuilder you can add: export http_proxy='url' to your ~/.pbuilderrc
[18:45] <geryon66> !anyone | Guest30045
[18:45] <Catbuntu> I use 12.04 (installed 12.04.1), should I reinstall 12.04.2?
[18:45] <Catbuntu> I mean, is a reinstallation need to have the 12.04.2 improvments?
[18:45] <waheedi> geryon66:  i think service is not recognizing that varnish got started so it keeps firing it
[18:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> it new version of precise released?
[18:46] <trism> Catbuntu: no, the images are really only so there are less updates for people who clean install 12.04, if you already have 12.04.1 you should just update
[18:46] <DuncanT1> trism: I have that set, pypi inside the pbuilder is still trying to connect to pypi.python.org:80 directly :-(
[18:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> gotcha
[18:46] <Catbuntu> Cool.
[18:46] <geryon66> waheedi: Yes, that service should not fork and exit; it should stay in the foreground for this to work.
[18:47] <Catbuntu> I use Gnome Shell because Unity is a bit slow on 12.04 and a very buggy on 12.10 (on my computer, of course)... Is it a bit improved on 12.04.2?
[18:47] <waheedi> so how can i make it working under service geryon66
[18:47] <trism> DuncanT1: hmm, not sure then. I know I use that to use apt-cacher-ng with pbuilder without issues
[18:48] <user__> Ola
[18:48] <user__> Galera
[18:48] <user__> Alguem poderia me falar se aqui posso tirar duvidas a respeito de desenvolvimento de software?
[18:48] <DuncanT1> trism: Setting proxy entries in /var/cache/pbuilder/base-xxxx/etc/apt/apt.conf works for apt stuff, but pypi is causing me issues :-(
[18:48] <geryon66> waheedi: As I can see from the man page, I guess you should add -F to the command line
[18:49] <waheedi> capital F geryon66
[18:49] <geryon66> waheedi: exec varnishd -F -f /usr/local/etc/varnish/default.vcl -s malloc,2G -T 127.0.0.1:2000 -a 0.0.0.0:3000
[18:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> can someone help me get a working offline mirror of a canvasrider track?
[18:49] <waheedi> geryon66 ill try it no
[18:50] <geryon66> waheedi: see http://linux.die.net/man/1/varnishd
[18:50] <waheedi> working well geryon66
[18:50] <waheedi> :)
[18:50] <waheedi> thanks a lot
[18:50] <user__> hello
[18:50] <geryon66> waheedi: welcome :)
[18:50] <user__> br here?
[18:52] <Quest> how applications find duplicate files?
[18:52] <bean> Quest: what do you mean
[18:53] <Quest> bean,  how do they compare two files?
[18:53] <bean> Quest: probably using diff.
[18:53] <Quest> whats dif?
[18:54] <geryon66> !pt | user__
[18:54] <vitor> my ubuntu 12.04 dont shutdown, and now?
[18:55] <bean> Quest: a command line tool for finding the difference between files
[18:55] <bean> !diff
[18:55] <Pici> !info diffutils
[18:55] <bean> aww, man, nothing about diff.
[18:55] <bean> there we go
[18:55] <Quest> bean,  iam talking about the basics used by those tools
[18:55] <Quest> bean,  how it compares two files? checksums?
[18:56] <bean> Quest: diff will give a line by line difference
[18:56] <bean> Quest: this isn't really support related, and is a bit !offtopic
[18:56] <vitor> my ubuntu 4.12 not off, it returns to the login screen, what do I do?
[18:56] <Pici> Quest: check the manpage
[18:57] <vitor> ubuntu 12.04
[18:57] <JKL> i booted my ubuntu server without display attached. how i can enable display without reboot?
[18:57] <Quest> Pici,  man page does not tells the low level strategy
[18:57] <Quest> Pici, so the comparing software first reads all the file data, generates a checksum and then compares it?
[18:57] <GeekSquid> vitor: CTRL-ALT-F1 ... login... sudo shutdown now .... see what happens
[18:57] <Pici> Quest: its line by line.
[18:58] <Quest> Pici,  not by checksum?
[18:58] <vitor> ok
[18:58] <Pici> Quest: For diff?
[18:58] <trism> Quest: this is how diff works (at a high level): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_common_subsequence_problem
[19:00] <Quest> Pici,  trism  iam asking for any such app
[19:00] <Quest> like fslint
[19:00] <Quest> Pici, so the comparing software first reads all the file data, generates a checksum and then compares it? correct?
[19:02] <Pici> Quest: It depends on if you care about difference between the files or not.
[19:02] <bean> Quest: what are you attempting to accomplish?
[19:02] <Quest> bean,  understanding
[19:02] <bean> there are many ways of comparing files
[19:02] <Quest> Pici,  hm. the content. not file names
[19:02] <bean> this is a place for support, not teaching you about how diffutils works
[19:02] <Quest> bean,  i would take fslint benchmark then
[19:02] <Kireji> does anyone have a laptop they love that's running 12.10?  I'd like a top of the line model where everything works.  work's buying it, so price is not te first concern, support, reliability, performance are priority.  what laptops would people reccomend I look at?
[19:03] <Quest> Pici,  fslint
[19:03] <bean> Quest: http://fslint.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/FAQ tells you EXACTLY how they do it in #1
[19:04] <Quest> hm
[19:04] <Quest> Pici,  where can i read that what does a file has in it self? the content, headers, etc.?
[19:05] <bean> Quest: that message to Pici was incredibly confusing
[19:06] <krabador> help, i typed PATH=/folder:~/.bashrc to add adb shell on path, on root, and now , on root i haven't commands, but a adb shell working
[19:07] <bean> krabador: i would reopen your shell.
[19:07] <krabador> bean, great...
[19:07] <Pici> Quest: I need to take a call, sorry, can't answer further at this time.
[19:07] <bean> krabador: and then in your .bashrc add "export PATH=$PATH:/folder/"
[19:07] <bean> krabador: not sure where you got that path command
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> can someone help me get a working offline mirror of a canvasrider track?
[19:07] <Quest> Pici,  thanks
[19:08] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777: that doesn't sound very ubuntu related
[19:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> tis, lol. I am using wget to do it, and #wget is more or less empty
[19:09] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777: with wget you just "wget http://url/
[19:09] <bean> "
[19:09] <syntroPi> krabador, in future do it like PATH="${PATH}:/folder/:~/.bashrc"   also note PATH is searched in sequence from beginning so first entry wins
[19:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> I ~had~ it working, but I switched tools (wget for httracker) and it don't quite work anymore
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> bean: Yes, I am passable with wget, but seems I screwed up somewhere
[19:10] <krabador> syntroPi, now i reopen the terminal, it worked as ever, but i lost the adb command, the reason for the previous command
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> the javascript is not loading right
[19:11] <syntroPi> krabador,btw colons are the separators in PATH variable
[19:12] <syntroPi> krabador, suffix the folder which contains adb binary to the path like export PATH="${PATH}:/parent/folder/to/adb"
[19:13] <krabador> syntroPi, on root and user are separate effects?
[19:13] <syntroPi> krabador, to make it persistent you can even add this in your ~/.bashrc file
[19:14] <krabador> oh, ok
[19:14] <syntroPi> yes ~ is $HOME
[19:16] <DMJC> Steam just launched a Linux games sale!
[19:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/
[19:20] <LenRockfoot> Hey!
[19:20] <LenRockfoot> I was trying to change my login screen on Ubuntu Studio to the same one as normal 12.04, but I didn't know what I was doing and screwed up.
[19:20] <Corey> It's a good thing you've got a robust backup policy in place and can restore from backups though!  A lot of people with insufficient experience and bad administrative habits would not be in such a good position.
[19:21] <LenRockfoot> Yeahh... :x
[19:21] <LenRockfoot> I hope I can fix it, all I did was use "sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -g unity-greeter".
[19:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, I should like to have the unity greeter back. that was nice, but unity in general >m<
[19:22] <LenRockfoot> And it didn't work anyway. Now, the machine will randomly close and GUI and switch to a black screen >.<
[19:23] <LenRockfoot> Earlier it wouldn't even let me log in, but I managed to switch the login manager to gdm (The gnome one?) using the tty1 thingy.
[19:23] <LenRockfoot> Does nayone know how to help me?
[19:24] <trism> LenRockfoot: can you pastebin /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?
[19:24] <LenRockfoot> I don't know, I'll try, I have the laptop here.
[19:26] <LenRockfoot> Gnome wouldn't load... I'll reboot into the other one and try.
[19:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn I'm dying here
[19:27] <LenRockfoot> Why?
[19:28] <MoPac> I need help diagnosing a problem that is stopping me from logging in as my user.  At login, my screen flickers, shows the NVidia splash, then loops back to the login screen. Guest account not affected.
[19:28] <Halite> I would like to save some JS code into a file, what is the best program to do this
[19:28] <MoPac> I've tried removing all of my autostart scripts, reverting changes to my xorg.conf, and using the failsafe xorg.conf#
[19:28] <LenRockfoot> Ah...
[19:28] <MoPac> Behavior is always the same. Any other ideas?
[19:28] <LenRockfoot> I can't pastebin it, no DE will load.
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> some bug running around, LenRockfoot
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> you don't need a gui for that, LenRockfoot
[19:29] <trism> MoPac: ctrl+alt+f1, login as your user, rm ~/.Xauthority; sudo restart lightdm; ctrl+alt+f7, try to log in again
[19:29] <MoPac> trism: Problem: whenever I hit ctrl-alt-f1, my screen goes black, no prompt, no more input appears to have any effect. Have to hard-shutdown with physical button
[19:30] <MoPac> trism: But I can get to all of my files by running this same OS from usb
[19:30] <MoPac> trism: should I just remove the file ~/.Xauthority and then start the OS?
[19:30] <trism> MoPac: that would work as well, just check if .Xauthority in your home folder is owned by root, and if so delete it
[19:30] <sonOfRa> Why does the Ubuntu software center show "Buy" for steam and takes me to a site for ubuntu launchpad signon?
[19:31] <goodwin> I could not do apt-get update. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1653123/
[19:31] <trism> LenRockfoot: you can just look at it and type it up, it should only be a few lines
[19:31] <LenRockfoot> Oh, okay.
[19:31] <trism> LenRockfoot: mostly it just needs: [SeatDefaults] followed by greeter-session=unity-greeter
[19:31] <syntroPi> MoPac, also look in "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and "dmesg"
[19:32] <LenRockfoot> That's what it says.
[19:32] <trism> LenRockfoot: if that looks okay, make sure unity-greeter is properly installed, and if so then we'll need to look at the logs in /var/log/lightdm/ (lightdm.log first of all)
[19:32] <MoPac> trism: Thanks, trying now
[19:32] <MoPac> syntroPi: will try next
[19:32] <LenRockfoot> (How do you quit vi again?)
[19:32] <SinnyDaSquid> Ya dual boot is sucsess!
[19:32] <trism> LenRockfoot: though without pastebin it could be difficult to decipher
[19:32] <trism> LenRockfoot: :q
[19:32] <andrewaclt> Is there a list of games that steam for linux is capable of using?
[19:33] <MoPac> trism: Worked! Thanks very much.  I was stumped after I noticed there were no error messages in .xsession-errors
[19:33] <trism> LenRockfoot: if you have internet you could install pastebinit and use that to pastebin
[19:33] <ianharp> Hi guys, looking for help there with editing the reg. I'm installing Fl studio using wine, and had no probloms but i need to apply a "windows" reg edit (its a crack) any ideas about how i would go about it?
[19:33] <mandoguit> MoPac:  grub boot menu recovery option
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> ianharp  #winehq
[19:33] <ianharp> sound
[19:33] <trism> MoPac: yeah not sure it will make it far enough to get to .xsession-errors since it tries to write to .Xauthority but can't, so bails
[19:33] <LenRockfoot> I think that was the problem... It wasn't installed. I'll try it out now,.
[19:33] <MoPac> mandoguit: Thanks, but solved by deleting ~/.Xauthority then restarting
[19:34] <LenRockfoot> Should I restart or just ctrl+alt+F7
[19:34] <trism> LenRockfoot: do you have lightdm or gdm set up at the moment?
[19:34] <LenRockfoot> gdm
[19:34] <joshu> hey trism just thought I'd let you know that I exchanged the modem for another one E173 and it worked right away without any necessary hacks, configs =D i've been testing it for about an hour with VPN etc and it's working excellent!
[19:35] <trism> LenRockfoot: if it is still gdm: sudo stop gdm; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm; sudo start lightdm;
[19:35] <trism> LenRockfoot:  then you should be able to ctrl+alt+f7 and try it out
[19:35] <trism> joshu: excellent!
[19:35] <syntroPi> sudo service gdm stop
[19:35] <JKL> is it possible to attach monitor after boot? i currently can control my ubuntu server with ssh but i would like to attach monitor to it without booting. is that possible? currently monitor does not show anything
[19:35] <joshu> trism thanks again for helping me out!
[19:36] <joshu> trism I learnt some useful things so it wasn't a complete waste ;)
[19:36] <trism> syntroPi: not really necessary, that's just a script that checks if the service uses upstart and then uses initctl otherwise runs the sysv script...since gdm uses upstart, stop works
[19:36] <MoPac> Second problem: I can't seem to mount a gigolo-gvfs directory in my /home folder in any way that programs can find. I want CrashPlan to back up to and from a file on a share (can be smb or FTP, FTP at the moment). But it can't see my /var/run.../gvfs folder or any symbolic links
[19:36] <MoPac> I'm using Nemo in case that matters
[19:36] <MoPac> gvfs-fuse is running
[19:36] <syntroPi> trism, oh didnt know that
[19:36] <MoPac> but there's nothing in ~/.gvfs
[19:37] <LenRockfoot> I tried to ctrl+alt+F7 but black screen, I'll reboot.
[19:37] <trism> LenRockfoot: yeah it might show up on f8 or higher depending if it can grab the vt or not
[19:37] <goodwin> anyone help why I could not do apt-get update? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1653123/
[19:38] <LenRockfoot> Didn't show at all.
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> goodwin  hardy is too old
[19:38] <syntroPi> JKL idk some GPUs may need to be initialized by bios at startup (detect screen connected)?
[19:38] <crazyharry> so I want to install Ubuntu on a USB drive, I formatted the drive and did this # sudo kvm -boot order=d /dev/sdb -cdrom ~/.cache/testdrive/iso/ubuntu_raring-desktop-i386.iso ....but its stuck inside the QEMU emulator...the installation making no progress
[19:38] <trism> joshu: no problem
[19:39] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: I don't know why it is hardy, I use 12.04
[19:39] <Weems> If .XAuthority is preventing me from logging in at the login screen how Do I rectify the situation (on xubuntu if that matters)
[19:39] <MoPac> goodwin: Looks like there's an issue with your verification of the sources of the update files
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> goodwin  remove the hardy sources, should solve it
[19:40] <LenRockfoot> Thanks trism! It works!
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> goodwin  system settings, software sources, other
[19:42] <goodwin> goodwin: how to remove it?
[19:42] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: how to remove it?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> goodwin  system settings, software sources, other
[19:43] <Weems> If .XAuthority is preventing me from logging in at the login screen how Do I rectify the situation (on xubuntu if that matters)
[19:44] <crazyharry> so I want to install Ubuntu on a USB drive, I formatted the drive and did this # sudo kvm -boot order=d /dev/sdb -cdrom ~/.cache/testdrive/iso/ubuntu_raring-desktop-i386.iso ....but its stuck inside the QEMU emulator...the installation making no progress
[19:45] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: I got system settings, but not software sources
[19:45] <crazyharry> can a startup disk install ubuntu in it ? using the ubuntu startup disk creator ?
[19:46] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: there is no software sources in system settings.
[19:46] <JKL> syntroPi: probably
[19:47] <jackjackw> hey guys, i'm trying to install wine1.5 on 12.10 - sudo apt-get install wine1.5 is telling me i hold broken packages, whatdo?
[19:48] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: why I could not resize system settings window?
[19:48] <opticnerpe> Hello #ubuntu, I am having a booting problem with LILO and Windows.  I am trying to understand this better.  I am getting the BOOTMGR is missing error when I try to boot into Windows from LILO.  I have configured lilo.conf to point to /dev/sdc1 which I verified is it has the "bootable" filesystem flag (not like that should matter), and I also mounted it and verified it contains bootmgr.exe.  Reference: http://pastebin.com/J7Bk1B3L
[19:49] <Weems> fixed it
[19:49] <Weems> user lost ownership of .ICEauthority for some reason
[19:49] <Weems> I don't know why but it seems to happen a lot under 12.10
[19:51] <goodwin> overflow
[19:51] <jackjackw> wine1.5 : Depends: wine1.5-i386 (= 1.5.23-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable <--- how do i fix this guys?
[19:55] <zykotick9> Weems: do you use sudo with gui apps sometimes?
[19:55] <opticnerpe> Nevermind, I know why it's not working.. I need to run /sbin/lilo so the lilo.conf changes go into effect
[19:56] <edve> Anyone knows much about squid proxy server ?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> goodwin  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> edve  try #ubuntu-server
[20:00] <edve> Thanks MonkeyDust
[20:01] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> ah, 12.04
[20:03] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: any problem with that?
[20:04] <goodwin> ubuntu system settings sucks, cannot move cannot resize.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> goodwin  no, but it's different, don't remember where or how to find it in 12.04 - got to go now, i'm sure someone else can help further
[20:04] <Lofde_> i have a command i need to run on boot for my lubuntu machine, where should i put it?
[20:04] <goodwin> MonkeyDust: thanks
[20:08] <Endafy> II have a problem, Wine 1.5 is installed but all my exe files default to "Open With Archive Manager"
[20:08] <Endafy> I cant tell it to open with Wine or Windows Program Loader by default
[20:09] <Endafy> anyone?
[20:10] <Endafy> this is seriously annoying can anyone help?
[20:10] <mandoguit> Endafy:    use your file manager / properties to make sure they are set to executable  maybe?   don't really know all the ins and outs of wine etc
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm
[20:10] <user____> whats the problem?
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> right click on them, choose open with, set defaut to wine
[20:10] <Endafy> I cant set default to wine
[20:10] <Endafy> its not on the lsit
[20:10] <Endafy> list
[20:11] <Endafy> I wouldnt be asking in here if it were that easy
[20:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> check the properties tab, and you would be surprised how easy things are sometimes.
[20:12] <user____> what is it you are trying to open in wine?
[20:12] <Endafy> ntzrmtthihu777, hur I did
[20:13] <cviebrock> hey … I've got a weird issue.  From one of my Ubuntu boxes I can only ssh to a particular server if I include -oPreferredAuthentications=password
[20:13] <otak> Lofde_: crontab is good for that
[20:13] <cviebrock> otherwise, it doesn't prompt for a password
[20:13] <Endafy> whatever its like the blind leading the blind in here
[20:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> *shrug* wine shows up in both the properties/open with and the open with/other applications dialogue on my .exe
[20:14] <woozly> guys, how to setup sendmail for Ubuntu 12.04, If I just create server (I have no any domains, only clean server - Linode)
[20:15] <GermainZ_> Is there a way to open a window if I know its PID?
[20:15] <GermainZ_> its process' PID
[20:15] <jrib> GermainZ_: what does it mean to "open a window"?
[20:16] <jrib> woozly: you want sendmail specifically?
[20:16] <GermainZ_> I minimized something to the tray but the icon didn't show up. Running ps -A | grep process shows the PID. I was wondering if I can force open its window using the terminal
[20:16] <jrib> GermainZ_: maybe with wmctrl
[20:16] <woozly> jrib: I just can't understand what I need? I just create new linode server. Ubuntu 12. And just apt-get install sendmail
[20:16] <woozly> but when I try to send mail.. it freezes
[20:17] <jrib> woozly: well why do you want sendmail?
[20:17] <woozly> I need to set domain? or what
[20:17] <woozly> for php
[20:17] <woozly> python
[20:17] <woozly> and others
[20:17] <jrib> woozly: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/email-services.html I use exim personally
[20:17] <Inspiral> hey guys, i am running 10.04 lts. with the current maximum updateable version of php being 5.3.2. I need to upgrade to at least 5.3.3 what is the best way to do this, would it be compile through source, use a backport or upgrade the entire distro (I have websites running on this so i would like the most risk and hassle free solution)
[20:18] <ForSpareParts> Having trouble connecting to a WPA2 WEAP network under 12.10 -- it never accepts my credentials, but I know they're right (worked on my phone). Can someone advise?
[20:18] <jrib> Inspiral: have you considered just upgrading your ubuntu version to 12.04?
[20:18] <Inspiral> jrib: is that safe ?
[20:19] <woozly> jrib: okay.. thanks
[20:19] <jrib> Inspiral: well I wouldn't advise compiling php yourself unless you want to manage security upgrades yourself afterwards
[20:19] <GermainZ_> wmctrl didn't help, thanks for the suggestion tho.
[20:19] <jrib> GermainZ_: what happened when you tried?
[20:20] <Inspiral> if i wanted to upgrade to 12..04 am i likely to have some problems ?
[20:20] <GermainZ_> It doesn't show non active/minimized windows. Tried the -i switch and used the PID, got an error.
[20:20] <ForSpareParts> Inspiral: Upgrading will update a ton of software on your machine. It's a pretty stable process (though not entirely foolproof) but there is a chance that the upgraded software packages will break something once you're done.
[20:20] <jrib> Inspiral: read the release notes.  You /shouldn't/ have problems but this is software and software is not perfect so you need to be prepared with backups
[20:21] <Inspiral> figured as much, ok well i guess i have all night.
[20:21] <Inspiral> ill make a full backup of everything and then.....
[20:21] <Inspiral> :)
[20:23] <PhreakIT> Hello
[20:24] <PhreakIT> I have a small problem. When my laptop battery percentage says its 100%, I remove my power cord. After 5 seconds, it says it got 58%. How can that happen ?
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> I take it scorch is now Atomic Cannon - but I wonder why it never made it to linux?
[20:25] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, make and model on the laptop and which version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[20:30] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: Dell Vostro 1450. Ubuntu 12.4
[20:30] <MoPac> Sorry for taking one more crack at this here today, but - is there a way to determine why gvfs-fuse is not placing links to my gvfs directories in ~/.gvfs, or a way to change the mount point altogether?
[20:30] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, how old is it ?
[20:30] <syntroPi> PhreakIT, maybe the percentage is based on voltage measurements of the battery (which could drop when psu disconnects). but idk how that is done in hw exactly...
[20:30] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: Not even an year.
[20:31] <PhreakIT> Well, If it let it charge by 100%. Close the lid. Open it again, it work normal the way it should. Confusing right?
[20:31] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, had a look at the hardware specs... The battery-monitor should report the correct value. Have you used it on battery any longer period ?
[20:32] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: I always let it drain up to 20% before I start charging again. When it reaches up 100%, I remove the power cord.
[20:33] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, how long time does it take to reach 20% and did you use it for anything special during that time ?
[20:35] <loxiw> hi
[20:35] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: Nope. Normal use. Nothing different. Just normal usage. Even when I close the lid and let it discharge from 100% the way it should, it still the normal usage.
[20:35] <PhreakIT> I don't think I'm doing anything different that will drain from 100% to 58% in a matter of 5 seconds tops.
[20:36] <loxiw> i have a newbie question, is that normal that http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=lts&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc gives me the amd64 even if I use intel?
[20:36] <loxiw> xd
[20:36] <Delux> just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 - is fdisk still the best solution for setting u p partitions?
[20:36] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, but how long does it take for it to go from 58& to 20%
[20:37] <timoguin> Delux: fdisk is fine, especially if you already know how to use it.
[20:37] <timoguin> there's also cfdisk, and all the graphical ones
[20:37] <Delux> thanks
[20:38] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: about 1hr 25 mins.
[20:40] <otak> timoguin: Delux Isn't parted recommended now?
[20:40] <Delux> that's why i asked
[20:40] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, you dont have a diffrent battery to test with ? 38% for 1hr 25 min sounds about right. Might be an issues with the battery?
[20:40] <guntbert> loxiw: amd64 is not about intel vs. amd - 64bit products are often named amd64
[20:41] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: Charge to 100%. Close the lid. Open again. Its drains normally from 100% within about 3 hours. Not a battery problem right ?
[20:42] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, if you leave the lid open, the battery % is reported as normal? It only drops if you first close the lid ?
[20:44] <PhreakIT> drmagoo: Charge 100%. Remove the cord. It drops to 58% instantly and drains from there. Charge to 100%. Close the lid and open again, it starts to drain from 100% just like it should.
[20:45] <p5mith> quit
[20:45] <bekks> PhreakIT: Sounds like a broken battery :)
[20:45] <drmagoo> PhreakIT, That sounds really odd... ;) Im out of ideas then...
[20:48] <loxiw> guys pls
[20:48] <loxiw> ubuntu desktop 64bits is only for amd?
[20:48] <sonOfRa> no
[20:49] <Pici> loxiw: guntbert already answered you.  no. AMD64 refers to the name of the specification for 64 bit computers.  It will run on any 64bit desktop machine be it intel or AMD
[20:49] <timoguin> loxiw: the intel dual core processors are based on the amd64 architecture
[20:49] <loxiw> oh sry pici, didnt read you
[20:49] <loxiw> thx
[20:49] <loxiw> thx u too timoguin
[20:49] <loxiw> so a i5 wont have any trouble right?
[20:50] <Pici> loxiw: no issues
[20:50] <loxiw> oks
[20:57] <kingbeast> netsplit?
[20:57] <Pici> Just quiet.
[21:01] <wts> having a weird issue. i just got a new hard drive and im trying to download ubuntustudio.iso to a thumbdrive (current hard drive doesn't have enough space)  issue: several times i have selected the thumbdrive as the download location but it downloads to /home/$usr/Download instead and uses up whats left of my drive soace then errors out
[21:02] <ejv> wts: cd $PATH_YOU_WANT; wget <source>
[21:02] <ejv> next question!
[21:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> heeh
[21:03] <rndm> so I have patched libapache2-svn for an internal project. I'd like to distribute a binary deb internally. How do I tweak the debian/ metadata to distinguish my version from the repo version but still let it satisfy dependencies?
[21:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok ejv: any good at html and javascript?
[21:03] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: that's outside the scope of #ubuntu support ;)
[21:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> ;) well I'm doing it on an ubuntu machine
[21:04] <jrib> rndm: I increment the version and append ~jrib1
[21:04]  * ntzrmtthihu777 lols
[21:04] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: im sure there are channels on freenode which cater to web programming
[21:05] <ejv> s/programming/scripting/
[21:05] <ddk> ddk
[21:05] <rndm> jrib: i'll try that.
[21:05] <rndm> will that cause a problem with things that depend on this?
[21:05] <rndm> (if any)
[21:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> can you  do a check on the server for channels?
[21:06] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: /list does it for me, be ready for a massive flood of data; might be better to google search or try #web #html #foobar etc.
[21:06] <jrib> rndm: if there's a new version released from ubuntu though, it will take precedence over your package.  So you may want to look into pinning and you definitely want to make sure you repatch the new version (in case the new version has security updates).  Basically, you become responsible for making sure your package is kept maintained.  What did you patch by the way?  Is it something you could contribute
[21:06] <jrib> back?
[21:07] <ejv> in gentoo land it's called an overlay, in ubuntu land... i have no idea.
[21:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> true, shooting in da dark, eh ejv?
[21:08] <rndm> it's a hack that's specific to us (it determines the svn dav path based on hostname)
[21:08] <rndm> err the svn fs path
[21:08] <otak> ntzrmtthihu777: try /msg alis list *foo*
[21:08] <rndm> but we auto-update these machines
[21:08] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: #<language-here> format is pretty much a $STANDARD here on Freenode.
[21:08] <rndm> so that is potentially an issue
[21:09] <jrib> rndm: that's where pinning comes in
[21:09] <osirisx11> hi all, i recently reinstalled my video driver noveau, and now compiz is enabled. how do i completely disable compositing and compiz?
[21:09] <osirisx11> ubuntu 12.04
[21:09] <rndm> jrib: yeah i'll google that. thanks
[21:09] <jrib> !pinning | rndm
[21:10] <ejv> pinning eh? :)
[21:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn, I can't send to #html lol
[21:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> osirisx11: use unity-2d, I don' think that uses compiz
[21:10] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: why not?
[21:11] <osirisx11> i don't want to use unity ntzrmtthihu777, thanks
[21:11] <osirisx11> i want to use gnome classic
[21:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> :D me either, osirisx11
[21:11] <osirisx11> it was working a minute ago until i messed it up
[21:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> then use the fallback no-effects version, that's what I do
[21:11] <osirisx11> yes
[21:11] <osirisx11> ntzrmtthihu777: ok let me try
[21:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> dunno ejv, it just says can't send to channel
[21:12] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: works for me
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> strange
[21:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I see your test
[21:13] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: you may need to register your nick/alias possibly; give that a whirl
[21:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> ejv: too much of a pita right now, my net is too slow for anything bigger than irc in irssi
[21:14] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[21:14] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: good luck :)
[21:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I know how to reg a nick, thanks
[21:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> and I just had this working too
[21:18] <jacklk> Hi, I keep getting lag spikes when gaming, I think it is down to my network adapter.. every couple of minutes it happens. My FPS is still high ... what could the problem be?
[21:20] <jacklk> my network card driver is installed correctly
[21:20] <unit3> hey, how long does it usually take for ppa.launchpad.net to update with new SSH keys added?
[21:21] <jpmh> I have a system - actually the one I am on now that dual boots ubuntu and lubuntu - under ubuntu the internal microphone works under lubuntu it does not, any ideas?
[21:22] <jrib> rndm: by the way, regarding that package version convention, that's just what I use and I don't remember where it came from.  If you want another opinion on it, you might try #ubuntu-packaging and #ubuntu-motu
[21:23] <yoritomo> いま、あなたは何をしますか？
[21:23] <Ben64> !jp | yoritomo
[21:23] <yoritomo> heu désolé je me suis trompé de chan
[21:24] <Ben64> yoritomo: this is english only, if you want to talk in japanese or french, please go elsewhere
[21:25] <yoritomo> yes sorry i mistaked the room
[21:25] <unit3> jpmh: could be a pulseaudio thing. if you install something for pulse audio control you should be able to manually select the mic, and that might work.
[21:26] <unit3> jpmh: I use pavucontrol under xubuntu for that purpose.
[21:27] <NetFlam> Hi all!
[21:28] <jpmh> unit3: I did install that and it show the mic - just does not actually work
[21:31] <jebb> Has any one been able to install steam on ubuntu? I keep running into a problem with the software center it says "package dependancys can not be resolved" then it crashes
[21:31] <Guest58709> I'm in kind of an off situation.  In an attempt to turn Ubuntu into kubuntu, I've messed up my luks encrypted disk.  I can mount my disks from the livecd (which I'm on).  How can I fix it from chrooting into my disk via terminal commands?
[21:32] <jrib> jebb: ubuntu version?
[21:32] <Guest58709> Ubuntu 12.10 x64
[21:32] <jebb> its
[21:33] <jebb> 12.10
[21:33] <jebb> x64
[21:35] <jebb> "steam64: Depends: steam (= 1.0.0.26) but it is not going to be installed"
[21:35] <jrib> jebb: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[21:36] <jebb> k
[21:36] <jebb> done
[21:36] <jrib> jebb: output?
[21:36] <jebb> nothing
[21:37] <jebb> there was no output
[21:37] <jrib> jebb: I'm pretty sure steam requires multiarch unless something has changed recently.  Do you want to add i386 multiarch support and see?
[21:37] <jebb> Sure is there a downside to doing tihs?
[21:37] <jebb> this*
[21:38] <jrib> jebb: it's just added functionality (it allows you to run 32bit software on your 64bit os)
[21:38] <jebb> oh is it an apt-get command?
[21:38] <jrib> jebb: dpkg --add-architecture i386
[21:38] <jebb> do i need to sudo
[21:39] <jrib> jebb: yes
[21:39] <jebb> done, no output btw
[21:39] <tanveer> hi guys i have no sound fresh install for 2 months! all latest updates ATI Card , output HDMI!
[21:39] <jrib> jebb: now run « sudo apt-get update »
[21:40] <VeRon> Where can I find an other audio mixer for ubuntu 12.04, not alsamix or pulseaudio, with big bass boost plz
[21:40] <tanveer> I have all the latest updates, yet no sound 12.10 LTS
[21:40] <jebb> ok running it now
[21:40] <jebb> done
[21:41] <jrib> jebb: sudo apt-get install steam
[21:41] <tanveer> can anyone help me??
[21:42] <jebb> ok installing now.
[21:43] <tanveer> Can anyone help me no sound 2 / 3 months!
[21:43] <Guest58709> tanveer, do you have the catalyst drivers installed?
[21:43] <tanveer> no Guest
[21:44] <tanveer> I want to get that but I dont know how
[21:44] <tanveer> its to confusing
[21:44] <jebb> haha very cool thanks man
[21:44] <SolarisBoy> 12.10 isn't LTS
[21:44] <Guest58709> ok.  Go to software sources
[21:44] <tanveer> where is software sources
[21:45] <Guest58709> search for it in the unity dash
[21:45] <tanveer> ok got it
[21:45] <tanveer> now what
[21:45] <Guest58709> go to the additional drivers tab
[21:45] <tanveer> ok now?
[21:45] <Guest58709> do you see anything that says AMD video drivers?
[21:45] <Guest58709> or something related?
[21:46] <tanveer> YES
[21:46] <tanveer> caps my bad
[21:46] <Guest58709> select that
[21:46] <tanveer> its already selected?
[21:46] <Guest58709> ok, lets try this.  open a terminal
[21:46] <tanveer> AMD [radeon HD 6800 series]
[21:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hehe, ejv.
[21:47] <Guest58709> post the output of the command ->  lsmod | grep "fglrx"
[21:47] <tanveer> ok hold on 1 min
[21:49] <tanveer> fglrx: command not found
[21:50] <Guest58709> thats a | in between them
[21:50] <Guest58709> above the ender key
[21:50] <tanveer> i typed fglrx nothing happened
[21:51] <Guest58709> copy and paste this, without the quotes.  "lsmod | grep fglrx"
[21:51] <tanveer> ok i see
[21:51] <tanveer> lsmod | grep fglrx
[21:51] <Guest58709> yes
[21:51] <tanveer> it gives me nothing
[21:51] <tanveer> just goes to the next line
[21:52] <Guest58709> ok, so it appears that the fglrx driver isn't loaded
[21:52] <tanveer> oh
[21:52] <Guest58709> go back to the software sources drivers tab and tell me what the options are
[21:53] <tanveer> ok
[21:53] <LenRockfoot> Hey! (Again.)
[21:53] <tanveer> ubuntu softawre, othersoftwares, updates, authen, addi drivers
[21:53] <alexwaters> does anyone mind telling me why this init.d script isn't killing the process on service stop?
[21:53] <LenRockfoot> I'm not sure how I screwed up this time, but I can't log out of Ubunutu Studio. It just goes to a completely black screen.
[21:53] <alexwaters> http://codepad.org/ifFltq2t
[21:55] <bekks> !upstart | alexwaters
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> alexwaters  better ask in #bash
[21:55] <azizLIGHTS> how do i change the vnc password from the prompt, i forgot it but have ssh access, and need gui access
[21:55] <tanveer> X.org x server - AMD /ATI    Video driver AMD gfx fglrx p and video diver amd gfx fglrx-updates
[21:58] <alexwaters> MonkeyDust: thank you
[22:00] <Guest58709> tanveer, the radio button is selected for it right?
[22:00] <tanveer> yes
[22:01] <Guest58709> when you hit apply, does anything happen?
[22:01] <bond_> Does anybody here know about the frequency of ntpd utility to check for the time from a server?
[22:01] <tanveer> current "x.org opensource " driver
[22:01] <tanveer> is selected
[22:01] <tanveer> I have tried all 3 of them
[22:01] <Guest58709> even the post release updates?
[22:01] <olivier__> voila rien n'ai changé
[22:01] <tanveer> top one is opensource, 2nd is propriertay, and 3rd is updated and still no sound
[22:02] <tanveer> i have a youtube video running and waiting for sound to come out no results
[22:02] <Guest58709> have you tried to do it from the drivers on amd's support website?
[22:02] <tanveer> I dont know how to install AMD's latest 13.1 driver
[22:03] <Guest58709> it can be difficult if you've never done it before
[22:03] <tanveer> I read some guide and stuff but no progress
[22:03] <tanveer> its just to difficult
[22:04] <Guest58709> what card do you have?
[22:04] <azizLIGHTS> i did 'sudo shutdown now' via ssh onm the prompt, got the message that systm is going down for maintenance NOW. my sssh session wont respond now, and the computer is still on. what do i do
[22:04] <tanveer> AMD HD 6870 (XFX branding)
[22:05] <mgolisch> azizLIGHTS: does that command work when executed localy?
[22:06] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, after following this howto (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#Installation_on_12.10_.28Quantal.29_64_bit), dash has trouble to start (there is only desktop, no close / minimize buttons)
[22:06] <mgolisch> maybe something is wrong with your acpi and it cant shut it off properly
[22:07] <azizLIGHTS> mgolisch: well i have no monitor, i have to ssh
[22:07] <azizLIGHTS> its headless
[22:08] <azizLIGHTS> it used to work before, then i put the machine into storage, came back 3 years later, and tried to shut it down and now it seems stuck. the machine is in front of my physically, the cdrom still opens
[22:09] <azizLIGHTS> what should i expect if i hold down the power button
[22:09] <azizLIGHTS> and force shut
[22:09] <syntroPi> reisub
[22:10] <syntroPi> azizLIGHTS, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[22:10] <LenRockfoot> How od I copy a folder to a folder that says "permission denied"?
[22:11] <queenabc> What's goiong on. Quick question, I need to install Win8, but I can't seem to format my HDD from EXt4 to NTFS. How can I go about doing this?
[22:11] <syntroPi> LenRockfoot, escalate perms
[22:11] <LenRockfoot> I... How?
[22:12] <syntroPi> eg "sudo su" and cp chmod chown
[22:12] <queenabc> Tried Disk utility, but can't format the disk that I'm using. Connected the drive as an external on my laptop but windows didn't recognize the HDD at all
[22:12] <mgolisch> queenabc: why dont you just use the installer?
[22:13] <mgolisch> at least the one in previous version was able to delete/create partitions or format them with a new filesystem
[22:13] <queenabc> Did, but when it came time to select the drive I wanted as my boot drive, the avil HDD was not formatted to NTFS
[22:13] <queenabc> Tried using the format option i the boot but was not highlightable
[22:13] <queenabc> So now I'm trying to format the drive internally
[22:14] <mgolisch> queenabc: is there anything on it you still need?
[22:14] <queenabc> syntroPi: Why would I try copying files?
[22:14] <queenabc> Nope
[22:14] <designbybeck> Is it just Ubuntu desktop that has the Shoping / Amazon stuff? Or does say Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server have things like that in there also?
[22:14] <queenabc> Backed up (only used this temporarily so nothing much)
[22:15] <queenabc> Not understanding the question. I installed the OS thru a LiveCD (Ubuntu 12.04
[22:15] <mgolisch> you could just overwrite the device file with some megabytes of /dev/urandom or /dev/zero
[22:15] <mgolisch> that should clear out the partition table
[22:15] <queenabc> Overwrite it from where though?
[22:15] <jusr> in LXTerminal, how do I do a full fat32 format?
[22:15] <mgolisch> queenabc: from within ubuntu?
[22:16] <queenabc> yes
[22:16] <otak> `
[22:16] <queenabc> Went to disk utility and tried formatting the drive, but can't format an actie drive, so that was pointless
[22:17] <mgolisch> is there only one disk connected?
[22:17] <queenabc> tried using the HDD exernally on laptop, but laptop (running win7home) couldnt read drive
[22:17] <queenabc> yes
[22:17] <queenabc> i have another external and a mini HDD that i could connect if I need to. but how would thhis get me to format the 1tb HDD
[22:18] <mgolisch> then you could try something like sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=10 or so be sure that /dev/sda is actualy the correct disk device if theres more than one connected
[22:18] <mgolisch> not that you kill something else unintended
[22:18] <queenabc> I just built the PC, I can assure it's the only drive connected
[22:18] <mgolisch> like a usb key or usb disk or such
[22:19] <queenabc> so run "sudo dd"?
[22:19] <StevenButt> Hello!
[22:19] <otak> ermm. why are you wiping 10 MB ?
[22:20] <syntroPi> queenabc, you want to purge your drive clean from previous ubuntu installation to instal win8 on it?
[22:20] <StevenButt> How do I copy a directory to a folder I don't have permissions to copy to? I am the admin, but don't want to use root.
[22:20] <queenabc> yes, sir
[22:20] <ejv> installing win 8, aka "downgrading" :)
[22:20]  * ejv ducks
[22:20] <mgolisch> it might not work if its gpt i think they save the partiton map on different possitions
[22:20] <mgolisch> if in doubt bott that thing from a gparted livecd and do it that way
[22:21] <queenabc> Yeah I want win8 on my pc, and ill use linux on my laptop (just to get used to it, new at it)
[22:21] <queenabc> so bot it using any Livecd?
[22:21] <syntroPi> queenabc, either you use the win8 installer to delete partition table or you boot from livecd and write with dd from /dev/zero to your /dev/sda or similar
[22:21] <queenabc> i have the ubutnu 12.04 and hiren's recovery livecds.. any these would work??
[22:22] <queenabc> syntroPi: that second part is where you're losing me. sorry.
[22:22] <Noorideen> :)
[22:22] <queenabc> the dd "converts and copies files" is this really what I'm looking for
[22:22] <DaemonicApathy> queenabc: /dev/zero is blank.
[22:22] <DaemonicApathy> So, if you copy <blank> to an entire drive...
[22:22] <queenabc> blank by default? or am I making it blank
[22:23] <queenabc> ohhhhhh
[22:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> by default
[22:23] <DaemonicApathy> Get it, queenabc? ;-)
[22:23] <queenabc> unrelated question: how do I stop these alerts from people joing.leaving the channel?
[22:23] <DaemonicApathy> That depends on the client.
[22:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> I just learned to grep a dd made image, can find deleted files thattaway
[22:23] <syntroPi> queenabc, you cant delete the disk you are running ubuntu from: so boot from a liceCD instead. then you open a terminal and "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M" to write zeroes to your first hdd (sda)
[22:24] <mgolisch> syntroPi: why not?
[22:24] <mgolisch> cleariung the partition map should be sufficient
[22:24] <Noorideen> when can i use this command " apropos remove "?
[22:24] <mgolisch> and iam quite sure that this works
[22:24] <queenabc> syntroPi: any liveCD?
[22:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> rm -r --no-preserve-root / will do it lol
[22:24] <DaemonicApathy> mgolisch: Ubuntu won't let you blank a mounted drive.
[22:24] <mgolisch> DaemonicApathy: realy?
[22:25] <DaemonicApathy> mgolisch: In my experience, yes.
[22:25] <queenabc> Apparently so. Tried. but probably tried incorrectly ofc
[22:25] <mgolisch> iam quite sure that dd doenst care for that
[22:25] <DaemonicApathy> *shrug*
[22:25] <mgolisch> yeah gparted probably wont do it because its smart
[22:25] <syntroPi> mgolisch, hmm maybe the first bytes (MBR, partition table)... but any further it will fail with fun :)
[22:25] <Noorideen> ntzrmtthihu777: ??
[22:25] <mgolisch> he doenst need the os anyhow so thats not a problem
[22:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Noorideen: ??? what?
[22:26] <mgolisch> queenabc: or just download gparted livecd and do it from that
[22:26] <mgolisch> its graphical
[22:26] <queenabc> okay thanks
[22:26]  * syntroPi would like to see the error messages from that
[22:26] <Noorideen> ntzrmtthihu777: nothing sorry.
[22:26] <NYCplaya> anyone know how to set up hostapd?
[22:26] <NYCplaya> brb
[22:26] <syntroPi> queenabc, yes ans linux liveCD should work
[22:27] <Noorideen> whats the difference between php and python?
[22:27] <syntroPi> mgolisch, idk if its a GPT if wiping only the first MegaBytes would work?
[22:28] <queenabc> syntroPi: so run a live cd, enter the terminal and run those commands you mentioned?
[22:28] <Noorideen> guys powershell is like terminal?
[22:28] <queenabc> Windows verison of terminal, slightly different command
[22:29] <queenabc> command syntax*
[22:29] <Noorideen> queenabc: thank you i am new to programming, i am studying python atm
[22:29] <mgolisch> syntroPi: probably not
[22:29] <Noorideen> queenabc: can you tell me whats "apropos remove"? please
[22:30] <queenabc> Noorideen: I went down that road last year. python is nice. i haven't competed because thingsgot int he way but it's a good start apparently
[22:30] <syntroPi> queenabc, if your disk ist the first hdd (/dev/hda): yes. also you can use GParted GUI program from http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads
[22:30] <queenabc> Noorideen: can't sorry. didn't finish the course
[22:30] <lundy> wot port does ububtu desktop sharing use? or do i need to port forward it?
[22:30] <queenabc> syntroPi: this part always gets me. do i burn the iso as a file or the contents
[22:30] <Noorideen> queenabc: good luck, and thank you!
[22:31] <queenabc> Noorideen: I was using Learn Python the Hard way, if that helps you at all. google pdfs if you need to
[22:31] <mgolisch> queenabc: you select the proper option to create a cd from an iso image
[22:31] <Noorideen> queenabc: thats what i am reading atm :)
[22:31] <syntroPi> queenabc, an iso image is an "image" from a cd, so a container which contains the cd contents. use a cd burning program to burn image and not only copy that file to cd
[22:31] <Noorideen> queenabc: i am learning about powershell before python.
[22:32] <queenabc> did the same  Noorideen
[22:33] <queenabc> syntroPi: buring the contents of the iso onto the disc. if it doesnt boot properallu ill go back and redo it the other way.
[22:33] <roger_> How would I output say the results of an "ls" into a text widget in gtkdialog?
[22:33] <Ben64> queenabc: thats not how to do it
[22:33] <queenabc> once i boot from it, will it give me the option to format the drive?
[22:33] <Ben64> queenabc: you need to burn the image as an image
[22:34] <queenabc> did not give me that option. will re do it now
[22:34] <syntroPi> queenabc, use cd burning program and tell it to burn iso image to cd. dont extract it before or such
[22:34] <Dave77> is it possible to control overscan in ubuntu?  how do I launch the screen config from cmd line?
[22:34] <Ben64> i don't know what program you're using, but i think every one has an option to burn an image
[22:34] <myname_> hey i cant get my headphones to play sound on my macbook with 12.04. anyone have a solution?
[22:34] <syntroPi> queenabc, then it should write a bootloader to your cd so you can boot from it
[22:35] <queenabc> alright, re did it and it's currently burning it. thanks
[22:35] <NYCplaya> I'm trying to set up my server as a hotspot but the tutorial doesn't say if I have to create hostapd-minimal.conf cause I searched for the file
[22:35] <NYCplaya> and can't find it
[22:35] <queenabc> its the gparted livecd
[22:35] <Sazpaimon> how would I go about converting the installation ISO to a UEFI bootable USB stick?
[22:36] <queenabc> make sure the usb is bootable I presume.
[22:36] <myname_> Sazpaimon, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[22:36] <queenabc> i did it a while ago and had to make the drive compatble with the boot fle first, otherwise he boot menu wouldnt read the thing
[22:36] <Sazpaimon> myname_, does this apply for UEFI?
[22:37] <Sazpaimon> remember UEFI doesn't work the same as BIOS
[22:37] <queenabc> syntroPi: when i boot from the cd, I'm running those commands you told me?
[22:37] <syntroPi> queenabc, either those or you just use the installed GParted partition editor from the "start" menu in the GUI
[22:37] <myname_> Sazpaimon, sry idk much about the difference between EFI and UEFI. What r u tryin to do?
[22:38] <Sazpaimon> myname_, UEFI and EFI are used interchangably
[22:38] <syntroPi> queenabc, maybe you need to "startx" to launch gui. not sure
[22:38] <Sazpaimon> UEFI is just a newer version of EFI and it's available on most motherboards
[22:38] <queenabc> syntroPi: okay thanks. so either i run the commands "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M" or look for the gui with the partition editor
[22:39] <myname_> Sazpaimon, then i think yes it will work.
[22:39] <Ben64> queenabc: are you trying to erase your drive?
[22:39] <queenabc> can i post a pastebin link? it of the commands i am supposed to run, i want to make sure the syntax is right
[22:39] <queenabc> Ben64: yes
[22:40] <queenabc> the boot drive needs to be formatted from ext4 to ntfs
[22:40] <syntroPi> queenabc, just to make sure you understand correctly: you will wipe all data from your disk that way... so its gone after you do this !!!
[22:40] <Ben64> queenabc: ok... well make sure sda is the one you want to kill
[22:40] <queenabc> syntroPi: it
[22:40] <Sazpaimon> myname_, for the windows USB installer it's just as easy as just copying the contents of the ISO to a fat32 formatted USB stick=
[22:40] <Ben64> queenabc: you don't need to use dd to format a drive to ntfs
[22:40] <queenabc> syntroPi: it's a new drive, nothing on it so now worries =D
[22:40] <Sazpaimon> since the windows ISO contains the EFI directory and the proper files to boot
[22:40] <queenabc> Ben64: what,....
[22:40] <Ben64> queenabc: you can just format it...
[22:41] <syntroPi> queenabc, ok fine just wanted to make sure
[22:41] <queenabc> from where... can't do it while i'm in the disk
[22:41] <Ben64> how are you in it? you said it was blank
[22:41] <queenabc> Blank as in no files i need to back up
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Hi! Big problem, little time: My ~/.Xauthority disappeared during an update; how do I restore it?
[22:41] <myname_> Sazpaimon, easier. you just select the iso (or even download thro the installer, tho ive never done that) and the disk you want to write to. sometimes it messes up and you gotta do it a couple times.
[22:41] <queenabc> i need to format it to ntfs
[22:42] <queenabc> syntroPi: like this? http://pastebin.com/y24UCGX4
[22:42] <ozcanesen> i added third-party and property repositories but still i can't find 'steam' package on ubuntu 12.04 x64 ?
[22:42] <Ben64> queenabc: oh ok, well you can do that with gparted, without using dd at all, that just will waste time
[22:42] <Sazpaimon> myname_, the WUBI page says that it isnt compatible with UEFI
[22:42] <queenabc> yeah i just created a live disk of that.
[22:42] <queenabc> matte rof fact ill just run it now
[22:42] <queenabc> THANKS EVERYONE
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Never mind, spotted it
[22:43] <Sazpaimon> keep in mind all this talk about making the USB stick bootable and stuff doesn't apply to uefi
[22:43] <Sazpaimon> uefi doesnt have any such thing as MBR and bootable partitions
[22:43] <Sazpaimon> or at least, not the same way as bios does
[22:43] <SrPx> What is the fastest command to find a file on the filesys?
[22:44] <SrPx> Deeply*
[22:44] <myname_> Sazpaimon, well when i take usb i created thro the installer i am able to boot it on my mac which and when i do it shows up as EFI. i really dont know tho. give it a try its a free app
[22:45] <Sazpaimon> also, I think there may be a bug on the ubuntu site
[22:45] <jrib> SrPx: try "locate"
[22:46] <mgolisch> but that only works if you update its db regularly
[22:46] <Sazpaimon> selecting 12.10 64 bit from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop takes me to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest and clicking the "Not now, take me to the download" link takes me to the a page that downloads 32 bit LTS
[22:46] <Sazpaimon> can anyone else replicate this?
[22:46] <syntroPi> SrPx, "find /path/to/searchdir -type f -name '*filename*'"
[22:47] <mgolisch> Sazpaimon: nope downloads the 64bit here
[22:47] <Sazpaimon> strange
[22:47] <Sazpaimon> it even happens to me in incognito so I know it isn't any extensions
[22:48] <Dave77> is anybody using ubuntu with HDMI->DVI connector?
[22:48] <genii-around> Sazpaimon: Downloads the 64 bit here as well
[22:49] <syntroPi> Sazpaimon, nope it downs the x64
[22:49] <Sazpaimon> wait it does work in incognito
[22:49] <Sazpaimon> ok I figured it out, I had noscript blocking yahooapis.com
[22:49] <Sazpaimon> carry on, nothing to see here
[22:49] <syntroPi> Sazpaimon, yes incognito here too
[22:50] <syntroPi> Dave77, HDMI -> HDMI with nvidia even works with sound here
[22:50] <syntroPi> Dave77 DVI should be same without sound
[22:50] <Dave77> what is the application called to configure the screen in ubuntu/linux called?   trying to see if ubuntu has overscan controls
[22:51] <syntroPi> Dave77 if nvidia then try "nvidia-settings"
[22:51] <Dave77> I got ATI..
[22:52] <syntroPi> hmm maybe there is similar program there idk
[22:52] <queenabc> syntroPi: why is the resoluton set to microscopic ant letters? i cant read S*^@
[22:52] <genii-around> xrandr, resapplet  ...
[22:52] <queenabc> I tried choosing a diff resoluion but nothing changes
[22:52] <queenabc> using the GUI for gparted
[22:54] <queenabc> does anyone have the gparted livecd gui setup memorized? and can just walk me thru "click this symbol, that symbol, etc"" dont get why the res won't change
[22:55] <syntroPi> queenabc, ah maybe thats because of QT reading the resolution of your screen from edid interface: try "qtconfig-qt4" to change
[22:56] <genii-around> queenabc: You can also try: ctrl-alt-<numpad + or - >
[22:56] <queenabc> i have no idea if i typed it in correctly, but will try again
[22:56] <syntroPi> queenabc, also you can try to use that dd cmd from tty1 (ctrl alt f1)
[22:56] <genii-around> ( to cycle through available resolutions
[22:56] <queenabc> yeah the zoom just messes it up worse
[22:57] <queenabc> i just ctrl-alt-f1 and now i'm stuck at a screen that says
[22:57] <queenabc> "xrandr: Failed to get size of gama for output default
[22:58] <syntroPi> queenabc, also note that dd cmd will take some time since it overwrites your whole disk (depending on size it can take hours....)
[22:58] <queenabc> I'm a 42" tv.. shall i switch to the 19"? lol
[22:58] <queenabc> I'm on*
[22:58] <genii-around> queenabc: xrandr can't work in tty1-tty6 only a terminal from inside X
[22:58] <sultan_sulehiman> Salamalekum
[22:58] <syntroPi> queenabc, thats the problem: your tv is over one meter and that qt4 reads that from edid parameters and makes fonts tiny
[22:58] <queenabc> shit.
[22:59] <queenabc> okay minor adjustments to be made. one sec
[22:59] <syntroPi> queenabc, can you go to gui with ctr alt f2 or highter (maybe f7=?
[22:59] <genii-around> alt-f7
[22:59] <syntroPi> try all f keys
[23:00] <fancyabum> Heyyy
[23:01] <sultan_sulehiman> Hello gaylords
[23:01] <unheeding> sultan_sulehiman: rule#1 DONT BE A DICK
[23:01] <fanyabum> Ok sorry
[23:02] <queenabc> ctrl-alt-f2 brought me to what looks like the cmd
[23:02] <queenabc> i'm "user@debian:~$
[23:02] <syntroPi> queenabc, ok do "ls -l /dev/sd*"
[23:03] <queenabc> syntroPi: gives me 4 root disks looks like
[23:03] <syntroPi> queenabc, which ones?
[23:03] <syntroPi> queenabc, sda1-4
[23:03] <syntroPi> maybe?
[23:04] <queenabc> is this not typing?
[23:04] <queenabc> oh there we go
[23:04] <queenabc> */dev/sda
[23:04] <queenabc> then sda1, sda2, and sda5
[23:04] <rtc> hi, since upgrading some server from ubuntu 8 to ubuntu 12, I'm getting "svn: PROPFIND of '/repository/!svn/bc/1058': Could not read status line: SSL error: Decryption has failed. (https://servername)
[23:04] <queenabc> apparetly the irc was taking the "/"as a command lol
[23:04] <syntroPi> queenabc, thats your first hdd and the 1 2 and 5 are the partitions on it
[23:05] <rtc> ie, the server with svn-dav-apache was upgraded
[23:05] <queenabc> okay, so type "dd /dec/sda
[23:05] <picca> on some irc clients you can escape / with a //
[23:06] <picca> /dev/hda
[23:06] <queenabc> not an option
[23:06] <genii-around> queenabc: What are you trying to do with dd ?
[23:06] <syntroPi> queenabc, if you want to wipe that first hdd you go like "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M" to erase all data and partitions from it. doesnt display anything and can take very long (hours). you can always stop it with "ctr c"
[23:07] <queenabc> dont know, someone told me i need to run that command to format the ext4 drive to ntfs
[23:07] <queenabc> syntroPi: ok on it now
[23:07] <genii-around> queenabc: No, you don't need that
[23:07] <syntroPi> genii-around, he tried to format with windows installer for some reason that wouldnt work
[23:08] <syntroPi> genii-around, so that would make it factory new zeroed out
[23:08] <genii-around> syntroPi: Just change partition type to 7 for ntfs, use mkntfs /dev/sda#   for it
[23:08] <bunjee> please help me install this file - firefox-18.0.2.tar.bz2
[23:08] <queenabc> alrght so first line of command was "sudo---zero"" then next line was "of --sda" then last line was "bs=1M" right?
[23:09] <syntroPi> genii-around, not sure of win8 would eat that NTFS
[23:09] <genii-around> syntroPi: If you want to reclaim entire drive then use partitoner to do that, make one big one, same process... type 7, mkntfs, etc
[23:09] <syntroPi> queenabc, noo all on one line then enter
[23:09] <queenabc> pressed enter after last line and now a new line is opened, with the underscore blinker rapidly.. i'm guessing it's going?
[23:09] <queenabc> dammit
[23:10] <syntroPi> queenabc, ctr D
[23:10] <queenabc> i control C
[23:10] <queenabc> same?
[23:10] <syntroPi> kinda
[23:10] <genii-around> queenabc: Not really but maybe it wiped out the mbr
[23:10] <syntroPi> genii-around, well gui doesnt work on his box and parted maybe too complicated
[23:11] <queenabc> alright did it in one line, pressed enter once, now new line opened
[23:11] <queenabc> press enter again?
[23:11] <syntroPi> genii-around, not sure how many bytes need to be wiped if it would be a gpt... but mbr the first megabytes should be enough
[23:11] <genii-around> syntroPi: Yup
[23:11] <trism> bunjee: firefox 18.0.2 is already in every supported release, might just need to: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;
[23:12] <braiam> might as well need to: sudo apt-get install firefox?
[23:12] <syntroPi> queenabc, type one line                            sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M                         then hit ENTER
[23:12] <queenabc> i did
[23:12] <braiam> queenabc, http://askubuntu.com/questions/206773/how-to-completely-erase-hard-drive
[23:12] <braiam> the secure way
[23:13] <queenabc> now the blinker is sitting on the second line as if its waiting for the rest of the arguments
[23:13] <genii-around> queenabc: No, it's just processing. Will return to prompt when done, but gives no progress indication
[23:13] <queenabc> shit. okay ill just let it sit again
[23:13] <genii-around> queenabc: If you do the ctrl-D it will background it
[23:14] <braiam> crtl-z isn't it?
[23:14] <bunjee> thank you trism!
[23:14] <queenabc> well i'm on a live cd so no point in backgrounding the process,
[23:14] <syntroPi> braiam, doesnt need secure since he will overwrite it with win8. no urandom or several turns wipe needed
[23:15] <queenabc> and the gui is still super tiny syntroPi from what i saw when switching between the F keys
[23:16] <syntroPi> queenabc, had same issue here: QT4 will read your screen resolution and size from EDID interface (HDMI or DVI maybe even VGA???) and use that for font size. those will be 3px on 42 TVs hahaha (bug or feature)???
[23:16] <genii-around> braiam: Maybe, I don't use it that often....
[23:17] <queenabc> but i switched to my 19" lol problemshould be averted yeah? but nada
[23:17] <bunjee> happy valentines day people!!!
[23:17] <queenabc> i'm sorry, 28" i think. not 19.. what the hell. i dont know
[23:18] <syntroPi> queenabc, i had that issue with google earth. searched long time for solutions... then i just used "qtconfig-qt4" to set proper font size and there they were
[23:19] <queenabc> now if i run that command in my cmd on wind7.. will it do the same.. just look for the right resolution?
[23:19] <queenabc> on my laptop , that is
[23:19] <syntroPi> queenabc, idk but i think they should restrict those settings to lower limit maybe 8px or so. then characters would be readable with magnifying glasses at least :p
[23:21] <syntroPi> queenabc, qt is kde or programs using that gui library. there are some for windows too but it wont change your windows gui setting
[23:21] <braiam> queenabc, win cmd allow you to change font type and size
[23:21] <queenabc> yeah i tried getting my camera out but didnt work
[23:21] <syntroPi> brb
[23:22] <syntroPi> queenabc, btw is your hdd led flashing/lighting up?
[23:23] <queenabc> no clue where that is. will have to look up the cases's manual. the power led is lit normally (blue) but there's a secondary light right next to it that's rectangular and red atm
[23:23] <queenabc> it the fractal design arc midi
[23:23] <syntroPi> queenabc, just to make sure your cmd is active and writing to it. no need for manual
[23:24] <queenabc> the cmd is still blinking the cursor so should be good right now
[23:24] <datsmoida> do you guys know how to test if multiple ips are working on my machine ?
[23:24] <syntroPi> usually the hdd leds are red
[23:25] <queenabc> ill just study my ccna for the moment until it clears up. will come back if anything changes
[23:25] <syntroPi> queenabc, ok when its done you will have your normal prompt "user@debian:~$" or so
[23:25] <queenabc> okay sweet
[23:26] <queenabc> what exactly is this doing right now?
[23:26] <queenabc> when i cancelled out before it gave me a reading of the records copied
[23:26] <queenabc> gave me the size copied, the seconds it took, and the speed it did it in
[23:26] <queenabc> i cancelle twice accidentally
[23:27] <syntroPi> queenabc, it reads from /dev/zero (device that just provides zeroes) and writes those to your first hdd /dev/sda. so after it finished you have a "factory new" zeroed hdd
[23:27] <queenabc> okay, and at what point to i set the filesystem to ntfs? or will this do that
[23:28] <syntroPi> queenabc, nope you have blank disk after that. then windows installer will make new ntfs partition
[23:28] <queenabc> sweet. thanks. wil return with results
[23:32] <azizLIGHTS> i ran sudo apt-get update and im getting a lotta errors
[23:32] <azizLIGHTS> 404 not found
[23:33] <azizLIGHTS> i think my ubuntu is really old
[23:33] <syntroPi> uname -a
[23:34] <azizLIGHTS> Linux decepticon 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:35] <angel> assault cube 1.10
[23:35] <zykotick9> azizLIGHTS: "lsb_release -sc" might be helpful
[23:35] <angel> hello
[23:35] <azizLIGHTS> i literalyl just wanna install mc and do some file browsing
[23:35] <azizLIGHTS> no update of my os
[23:36] <azizLIGHTS> its intrepid
[23:36] <zykotick9> azizLIGHTS: 1) unsupported versions aren't a good idea to use.  2) are you familiar with ranger?  i like it more then mc.
[23:37] <zykotick9> azizLIGHTS: see "/msg ubottu eol" for some details
[23:39] <azizLIGHTS> irealize this version is old, and i agree unsupported/old versions are not a good idea. however, this is just a skeleton computer that houses hard drives for me over a local network, a NAS, if you will. i dont connect it to the internet or intend to, just wanna get afile manager on here so i can do it more comfortably. and i havent seen ranger yet no. im willin to try it
[23:39] <azizLIGHTS> how do i go about getting mc or ranger
[23:39] <zykotick9> azizLIGHTS: see "/msg ubottu eol" for some details, i think it has some quasi-repo you can use (that's intended for updates... but hopefully you can use it)
[23:40] <azizLIGHTS> if that doesnt work? i have to compile source?
[23:40] <braiam> or look for a shady binary somewhere...
[23:40] <zykotick9> azizLIGHTS: well, by "real" advice would be fresh install a supported version ;)
[23:40] <zykotick9> s/by/my/
[23:41] <azizLIGHTS> thats my next step heh. first im trying to consolidate hdds, then wipe, then upgrade
[23:41] <zykotick9> azizLIGHTS: upgrade from intrepid.  good luck with that.
[23:41] <azizLIGHTS> er, by upgrade, i mean fresh install
[23:42] <azizLIGHTS> bad choice of words
[23:42] <braiam> you can too mount the hdd on another pc and make your movements there
[23:43] <braiam> I think is more easy then waste hours looking for a way with your current os
[23:43] <azizLIGHTS> lol
[23:43] <azizLIGHTS> yeah i guess
[23:43] <braiam> just trying to being practical ;)
[23:44] <azizLIGHTS> yeah you make sense, i dunno why i didnt think of that
[23:46] <queenabc> syntroPi: you there?
[23:47] <queenabc> It worked, thanks, everyone
[23:48] <braiam> !cookies syntroPi
[23:48] <zZeus> Hey good people, so I read that Steam is finally being distributed on the Ubuntu Software Center
[23:49] <zZeus> And I'm greeted with this button http://snag.gy/z3OAZ.jpg
[23:49] <DoWhileGeek> zZeus:  lul
[23:49] <sonOfRa> zZeus, I can confirm that, saw that too today. It takes you to launchpad signup
[23:49] <zZeus> Why the hate though
[23:50] <zZeus> Anyway to work around it?
[23:50] <sonOfRa> I downloaded the latest deb...
[23:50] <sonOfRa> worked just fine :)
[23:51] <zZeus> Is there a 64-bit deb package in Steam's site?
[23:51] <analtoy> hello !
[23:51] <sonOfRa> sadly, no :/
[23:51] <braiam> free = buy...
[23:52] <zZeus> braiam, if you mean that it's a textual glitch: it's not. It takes you a sign up page and stuff
[23:53] <jrib> zZeus: what's the problem?
[23:53] <zZeus> http://snag.gy/z3OAZ.jpg
[23:53] <zZeus> This
[23:53] <braiam> nah, I was just loling at the text in the left that said "free"
[23:53] <jrib> zZeus: yes, what's the problem?
[23:54] <zZeus> That's the problem, I want to install it via the USC
[23:54] <jrib> zZeus: what happens when you click "buy"?
[23:54] <zZeus> I'm taken to ubuntu.com or something that looks like it to sign up
[23:55] <zZeus> Like I have to pay for it
[23:55] <zZeus> Currently, the problem is finding the Steam 64-bit debian package so I can install it manually though
[23:55] <kunji> zZeus: Hmm, that's weird, it says free
[23:55] <kostkon> zZeus, it's free, but you need to have an ubuntu one account to install it
[23:56] <jrib> zZeus: you can use apt if you want to install the "steam" package
[23:56] <jrib> zZeus: but yes, I think it's just setup to be setup with your ubuntu one account (it's free)
[23:56] <zZeus> jrib, that's odd
[23:57] <kunji> Is that 13.04?  I don't think support for that has started in this channel yet.
[23:57] <lonewulf85> Hey is any one familiar with testout.com?
[23:57] <zZeus> Xubuntu 12.10
[23:57] <braiam> instead buy, it could use another term to describe the process, it will confuse users
[23:58] <kunji> zZeus: Hmm, oh, I see, it's in the software center
[23:58] <zZeus> Yes, http://snag.gy/z3OAZ.jpg
[23:58] <kunji> jrib: I don't see a steam package via apt though
[23:59] <zZeus> apt-get install steam doesn't work
[23:59] <lonewulf85> Anyone please testout.com?