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smartboyhw | !testers | new images 20130213 has arrived | 01:56 |
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smartboyhw | !testers | 01:56 |
smartboyhw | Hmm........ | 01:57 |
smartboyhw | !tester | 01:57 |
smartboyhw | len-1304, ping | 02:52 |
smartboyhw | What the...How come at the ISO QA Tracker Ubuntu Studio Test pages there is only one bug to look for and it's Bug 1? | 03:09 |
smartboyhw | Bug 1 | 03:09 |
smartboyhw | Clearly ubottu went haywire | 03:10 |
* smartboyhw yawns | 03:20 | |
len-1304 | smartboyhw, there should be two bugs to look for I think. | 03:26 |
smartboyhw | len-1304, oh? | 03:26 |
smartboyhw | I reported our old bug which we fixed in Raring (that -icon-theme) | 03:27 |
smartboyhw | Guys, I set up the release notes of 12.04.2 to go out at 14:00 UTC (around that time anyway) on ubuntustudio.org | 03:57 |
smartboyhw | zequence, any chance for you to test 12.04.2 i386 images? | 06:58 |
zequence | smartboyhw: Maybe. cjwatson was asking about where we publish our release notes. What's the link again? | 07:02 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I got it now in ubuntustudio.org | 07:02 |
zequence | smartboyhw: Yes, but the wiki link | 07:02 |
smartboyhw | zequence, well either http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/02/ubuntu-studio-12-04-2-lts-precise-pangolin-release-notes/ or wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio | 07:02 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I set that post to be public 7 hours later | 07:02 |
smartboyhw | I mean in the website | 07:03 |
* smartboyhw is zsyncing the i386 image | 07:03 | |
smartboyhw | amd64 works fine, except the Xubuntu logo is still on (LOL) | 07:03 |
zequence | Where is the logo? In ubiquity? | 07:04 |
smartboyhw | zequence, yep | 07:05 |
smartboyhw | zequence, we didn't backport it to Precise | 07:05 |
smartboyhw | And as len-1304 and micahg said: It would require a complete rewrite of quite a number of packages | 07:06 |
smartboyhw | It's not critical anyway | 07:06 |
zequence | cjwatson: there's the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio, and then we're publishing on our website http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/02/ubuntu-studio-12-04-2-lts-precise-pangolin-release-notes/ (not published yet). smartboyhw is actually doing this work for us atm | 07:09 |
zequence | Ah, sorry :) | 07:09 |
smartboyhw | zequence, LOL wrong channel:P | 07:09 |
smartboyhw | zequence, PING | 07:37 |
smartboyhw | zequence, is Ubuntu Studio Precise 12.04.2 i386 still using a lowlatency-pae kernel? | 07:38 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I have tested all the images and they passed. If scott-work doesn't show up before release time, it would be your decision to make the release happen | 07:41 |
smartboyhw | The images are ready | 07:41 |
zequence | smartboyhw: Ok, I'll do the test then | 09:34 |
smartboyhw | zequence, what test!? | 09:34 |
zequence | smartboyhw: Oh, sorry. I misread. Thought you still needed to have i386 tested | 09:35 |
smartboyhw | zequence, LOL. Just that lowlatency-pae question needs answering. | 09:35 |
smartboyhw | zequence, does 12.04.2 i386 still uses lowlatency-pae? | 09:36 |
zequence | smartboyhw: I've actually never bothered to look which is installed by default. As a matter of fact, Ubuntu Studio 32 bits seems to install both -generic and -lowlatency-pae by default | 09:39 |
zequence | Let me have a look | 09:40 |
smartboyhw | zequence, :O | 09:40 |
zequence | This is something we need to fix of course | 09:42 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I think only -lowlatency-pae | 09:43 |
smartboyhw | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/precise/dvd/current/precise-dvd-i386.manifest | 09:43 |
* smartboyhw goes and changes release notes before it's too late | 09:43 | |
zequence | smartboyhw: So, that shows we ship -lowlatency-pae, but it's not showing the problem with -generic, which I need to look at further | 09:45 |
smartboyhw | zequence, good | 09:45 |
zequence | Anyway, pae it is | 09:45 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I don't think we have that problem anymore | 09:47 |
smartboyhw | I looked at both raring and precise daily's manifests, and they don't include any linux-generic | 09:47 |
zequence | smartboyhw: Yet, generic is installed with Ubuntu Studio | 10:14 |
smartboyhw | zequence, eeh?! | 10:14 |
zequence | I'll have a closer look at this later. | 10:14 |
zequence | I had to remove -generic from all the test installs I've done, which I set up for test the lowlatency kernel | 10:15 |
zequence | I don't usually dabble with testing ISOs, and I don't have a deep understanding of the whole process of how the ISO is made and installed. At some point, generic is installed | 10:16 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I think it's the recommends or that sort of thing | 10:16 |
zequence | smartboyhw: If you want to find out why, be my guest. We should change it for raring | 10:17 |
smartboyhw | zequence, I want to. But make it tomorrow. I'm busy doing tests:P | 10:17 |
zequence | Sure. I'm preparing to do raring kernel testing myself, and will want to try make it perform better | 10:18 |
zequence | Just realized I have a small firewire 400 connector on my laptop. Should be possible to run my focusrite on that :P | 10:37 |
zequence | Texas Instruments, even | 10:37 |
smartboyhw | zequence, :! | 10:38 |
astraljava | smartboyhw: You should quit smoking. It's bad for you. *groan* On another note, were you intending to debug the precise kernel issue in time for .2? When is it due? | 11:06 |
smartboyhw | astraljava, what!? | 11:13 |
smartboyhw | zequence, is astraljava's IRC account hacked or what!? | 11:16 |
smartboyhw | Does anyone know what astraljava is saying!? | 11:17 |
zequence | smartboyhw: I think he was referring to :!, on the first two sentences (at least I think so), and on the other, he was probably referring to the issue with generic being installed on Studio | 11:22 |
zequence | astraljava: The kernel issue will have to wait, but I do agree, smartboyhw should definately quit smoking! | 11:22 |
smartboyhw | zequence, astraljava: 1. I mean I am surprised , not smoking | 11:22 |
smartboyhw | Next time: !:O | 11:23 |
smartboyhw | astraljava, zequence 2. 12.04.2 is releasing TODAY and it's zequence who's the kernel lead:P | 11:23 |
smartboyhw | You all mistaken me:( | 11:23 |
smartboyhw | zequence, astraljava I want an official apology:( | 11:24 |
smartboyhw | zequence, time for a new linux-lowlatency in precis | 11:25 |
smartboyhw | *precise | 11:25 |
zequence | smartboyhw: I've already updated, yesterday | 11:28 |
smartboyhw | zequence, good. Let me wait for it | 11:28 |
smartboyhw | zequence, why does it show "In Progree" for Bug 1124517?:P | 11:29 |
ubottu | bug 1124517 in Kernel SRU Workflow upload-to-ppa "linux-lowlatency: 3.2.0-38.39 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124517 | 11:29 |
smartboyhw | For prepare-package | 11:29 |
smartboyhw | Hmm | 11:29 |
zequence | smartboyhw: A lot of those things are done automatically, by a bot | 11:29 |
zequence | I don't have access to the information around that, so I don't know all the details | 11:30 |
zequence | The procedure for doing the bug is not yet finished | 11:30 |
zequence | I only got my gpg key signed recently, so that makes me now a trusted source | 11:30 |
smartboyhw | Oh | 11:32 |
zequence | Next I will start doing more on the packaging bit. As of yet, I only update my own git tree. apw pulls from it. | 11:32 |
zequence | I'm also editing the bug report manually, but again, the procedure is not finished yet, so it changes from time to time | 11:34 |
astraljava | smartboyhw: Well, if you're offended by the remarks of your typos, then I'll humbly apologize. And yes, I was referring to the -generic issue. | 11:34 |
astraljava | s/typos/smileys/ | 11:34 |
kubotu | astraljava meant: "smartboyhw: Well, if you're offended by the remarks of your smileys, then I'll humbly apologize. And yes, I was referring to the -generic issue." | 11:34 |
astraljava | Sorry, my brain is not functioning today. | 11:35 |
smartboyhw | Wow kubotu is still here! | 11:36 |
smartboyhw | astraljava, um no:P | 11:37 |
smartboyhw | astraljava, make it for 12.04.3 | 11:37 |
astraljava | Oh ok. | 11:38 |
astraljava | Then I can do it, too, assuming it's fairly far into the future. | 11:38 |
smartboyhw | astraljava, yep | 11:39 |
smartboyhw | astraljava, you are one of the kernel guys | 11:44 |
smartboyhw | I'm not:P | 11:44 |
zequence | This is not really related to the kernel itself, but the ISO | 11:44 |
smartboyhw | zequence, the seeds | 11:45 |
zequence | smartboyhw: the kernels don't show in seeds. As I haven't been working with that much, I don't know how some of the stuff not showing up in seeds are included | 11:47 |
smartboyhw | zequence, the recommends/ | 11:47 |
smartboyhw | Probably | 11:47 |
zequence | smartboyhw: What recommends? | 11:48 |
smartboyhw | zequence, some packages may recommend installing other packages | 11:49 |
* smartboyhw -> dinner | 11:50 | |
* smartboyhw hopes scott-work will turn up today | 12:57 | |
* smartboyhw waits for scott-work to get to work, as in his email | 14:19 | |
zequence | smartboyhw: Basically, you're wanting to ask him if it's ok to publish the iso? | 14:21 |
smartboyhw | zequence, yep. If scott-work doesn't appear in 1-2 hours, zequence you would have to do it | 14:21 |
smartboyhw | If not, problem | 14:21 |
zequence | I'll be away for a little while. bb in about half an hour | 14:23 |
smartboyhw | zequence, no worries | 14:23 |
len-1304 | There you go smartboyhw | 14:29 |
smartboyhw | len-1304, yay | 14:29 |
smartboyhw | scott-work, yay!!!!! | 14:29 |
smartboyhw | OK the images are now marked ready!!!!!! | 15:01 |
smartboyhw | scott-work, zequence do you guys want ~ubuntustudio-core to be setup to have privileges to mark releases ready? | 15:04 |
smartboyhw | That makes sense eh? | 15:05 |
zequence | scott-work: What do you think? That would let anyone of us do it manually. No need to do it by IRC | 15:09 |
zequence | Kubuntu is apparently doing it this way | 15:09 |
smartboyhw | zequence, they are planning to:P It would make sense for you guys to do it | 15:09 |
smartboyhw | scott-work, ^ | 15:12 |
zequence | smartboyhw: I think poking him once is enough ;). | 15:18 |
smartboyhw | zequence, ;) | 15:18 |
smartboyhw | zequence, when you guys made the decision to do so tell stgraber on #ubuntu-release | 15:19 |
zequence | edubuntu apparently has a ~edubuntu-release team, but I wonder if we really need another team :P | 15:21 |
smartboyhw | zequence, just use ubuntustudio-core | 15:24 |
smartboyhw | See ya all | 15:45 |
smartboyhw | jussi or holstein: Please help change channel topics on both #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel | 15:54 |
holstein | smartboyhw: i can.. whats up? | 15:54 |
smartboyhw | holstein: In user channel add Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS released and point to the release notes on ubuntustudio.org | 15:57 |
holstein | do we do that? | 15:59 |
holstein | shoule i add it on? | 15:59 |
holstein | should* | 15:59 |
holstein | scott-work: what do you think? | 15:59 |
smartboyhw | I think we should. But at least: Remove the testing bits on the topic here | 16:00 |
smartboyhw | holstein:^ | 16:01 |
smartboyhw | scott-work: Don't forget to send out an announcement after the images get loaded into cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases | 16:02 |
scott-work | holstein: if you think it's a good idea, then i'd say do it :) | 16:09 |
scott-work | zequence: i think using hte -core team for releases is good | 16:09 |
smartboyhw | scott-work :-D | 16:10 |
smartboyhw | scott-work, zequence so tell stgraber if you guys want control of marking releases ready | 16:35 |
scott-work | smartboyhw: do you have a link to the 12.04.02 release notes on ubuntustudio.org? if so i'll see if i can change the topic now | 16:40 |
smartboyhw | scott-work http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/02/ubuntu-studio-12-04-2-lts-precise-pangolin-release-notes/ | 16:41 |
=== scott-work changed the topic of #ubuntustudio-devel to: [Ubuntu Studio Development Channel | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio | Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS is released: http://goo.gl/FEAxP | Ubuntu Studio 12.10 is released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.10/release/ | Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 is released http://goo.gl/29QaS | ||
scott-work | smartboyhw: is that okay with you? let me know if you want a change | 16:43 |
smartboyhw | scott-work… two 12.04 in the topic?? | 16:43 |
scott-work | oops, my bad. trying to do too many things as once | 16:44 |
smartboyhw | no worries | 16:45 |
=== scott-work changed the topic of #ubuntustudio-devel to: [Ubuntu Studio Development Channel | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio | Ubuntu Studio 12.04.02 LTS is released: ISO- http://goo.gl/FEAxP Notes-http://goo.gl/29QaS | Ubuntu Studio 12.10 is released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.10/release/ | ||
smartboyhw | Thanks scott-wok | 16:48 |
smartboyhw | *scott-work | 16:48 |
scott-work | of course this is presuming that the link for the ISO will be correct when the image is pushed ;) | 16:48 |
smartboyhw | lol | 16:48 |
holstein | scott-work: cheers | 16:50 |
holstein | lets go with that, and see what needs to be changed | 16:50 |
smartboyhw | cheers | 16:50 |
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zequence | scott-work: I passed on the request to have the LP team handle accepting a release ready | 18:23 |
zequence | scott-work: So, is there anything else that you think we should add to the Mission Statement, as far as ideas go? | 18:23 |
zequence | I think I'd like to go ahead and start drafting some concrete text for it. I'm thinking a short version, and a long version, where the long version can be a bit more thorough and informative, while the short version is just very clear about what Ubuntu Studio is about | 18:24 |
scott-work | zequence: i think drafting something is good. i was also going to suggest we ask for some input from others as well | 18:46 |
zequence | scott-work: yeah, I guess it would be good. Post on the devel list? | 19:06 |
zequence | Or, even a less formal discussion on user, to see what our users think? | 19:07 |
scott-work | hmmmm, we might start with -dev and then once it's a little more solidified we can ask on -users? bah, i'm good whichever way we do it | 19:10 |
zequence | scott-work: On LAU there was just a discussion on what sucks and what rules about Linux audio. Ubuntu Studio is not only audio, which many people will easily forget, but that is probably a good resource for info | 19:15 |
zequence | I think we could have a similar discussion on the topic of Ubuntu Studio | 19:18 |
zequence | I guess we could throw out the question on all our channels and mail lists | 19:18 |
zequence | Though, I feel we already know what people will say. What kind of opinsions there will be | 19:19 |
zequence | Another way would be: we make a draft of something, and publish it. Ask for feedback. Then do changes | 19:21 |
zequence | scott-work: I was just notified about ~ubuntustudio-core getting the privileges to change more stuff over at iso.qa.ubuntu.com, so we can accept the releases ourselves | 19:30 |
zequence | scott-work: You need to logout and in again to see the difference | 19:30 |
zequence | We can mark them for rebuild, testing, done or even remove as it seems | 19:32 |
zequence | ttoine: How did the interview go? | 19:33 |
scott-work | zequence: good idea about discussion of ubuntu studio. really good idea | 19:35 |
scott-work | zequence: oh, and that is super sweet about the -core team and release :) | 19:35 |
scott-work | ttoine_: hello! | 19:36 |
ttoine_ | hello ! | 19:38 |
ttoine_ | ? | 19:39 |
zequence | ttoine_: Seems like you just quit. We're dying to hear the results about the interview :) | 19:40 |
ttoine_ | zequence, i am here | 21:15 |
ttoine_ | yes, the interview was very interesting | 21:15 |
ttoine_ | stephane is a nice guy | 21:15 |
ttoine_ | mr | 21:15 |
ttoine_ | more a scientiest than a geek, actually | 21:15 |
zequence | ttoine_: Sounds interesting | 21:16 |
zequence | Steam is having a Linux sale. Steam appeared in Ubuntu's software Center today | 21:17 |
zequence | Still weird using it | 21:17 |
ttoine_ | yep | 21:20 |
ttoine_ | zequence, so official release for ubuntu ? | 21:20 |
ttoine_ | I will have to write the interview in french | 21:20 |
ttoine_ | then, translate it in english | 21:20 |
ttoine_ | and then, ask scott-work for proof read | 21:21 |
zequence | ttoine_: Yeah. The fun part of it is, I'm using the free drivers playing the games. I've only tried one so far. | 21:22 |
zequence | The free drivers don't perform as well, AFAIK, but they seem to have more or less full functionality | 21:22 |
zequence | Both AMD and NVIDIA | 21:22 |
zequence | This is on Raring, so probably a bit more up to date than Precise on that | 21:23 |
ttoine_ | zequence, I guess | 21:25 |
ttoine_ | there is PPA with the latest free drivers | 21:26 |
ttoine_ | and x-edgers, too | 21:26 |
ttoine_ | yes, steam in in 12.04 too | 21:27 |
zequence | I'm getting a bit more cumfy with maintaining -lowlatency, so I will soon put up a PPA for testing kernels | 21:28 |
zequence | There are a bunch of configs that are interesting to find out more about | 21:29 |
ttoine_ | great | 21:29 |
ttoine_ | zequence, monday, I begin my new job... | 21:29 |
ttoine_ | a dream job | 21:29 |
zequence | ttoine_: :) | 21:29 |
ttoine_ | for some weeks, I will only have internet at work | 21:29 |
ttoine_ | I will live in an old mountain house a friend of my mother let me use | 21:30 |
ttoine_ | but no internet available | 21:30 |
zequence | ttoine_: Send us postcards (jk) | 21:37 |
zequence | Just tried CS Source. 1080p, on a NVIDIA 210. It doesn't work well on proprietary drivers either, but a bit worse on the free ones. Still, pretty impressive. All, until the game just crashed suddenly :( | 21:38 |
ttoine_ | too bad | 21:47 |
ttoine_ | but it is quite cool to have an official port ! | 21:47 |
ttoine_ | well, time to sleep | 21:48 |
zequence | ttoine_: GN | 21:48 |
ttoine_ | good st valentin everyone | 21:48 |
ttoine_ | I mean, if you are not single, of course | 21:48 |
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