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tsudoHello!00:21
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phoenix_firebrdgood night everyone00:33
monkeyjuicenite00:33
rsolligames02:26
ScottyKWhen do you think KDE 4.10 will be available in the normal repos (not backports)?03:52
holyguyverI am using Trinity (already asked in their room, no response) and When I click on a file in Konqueror, Konqueror doesn't know of any apps to open them with & the list of options is blank too, & this is for any file, jpg, mpg, html, ect.04:14
holyguyverHere is a screenshot http://i46.tinypic.com/vrsboi.png04:30
holyguyverAnyone?04:37
holyguyverI am using Trinity (already asked in their room, no response) and When I click on a file in Konqueror, Konqueror doesn't know of any apps to open them with & the list of options is blank too, & this is for any file, jpg, mpg, html, ect. http://i46.tinypic.com/vrsboi.png04:50
brian6705_I've got a stupid question that involves Kubuntu and DD-WRT, but I think it's mostly a WRT config issue.05:31
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holyguyverokay, ask05:33
brian6705_Sorry, wasn't quite sure of the ettiquite of IRC anymore05:33
DarthFrog!ask | brian6705_05:34
ubottubrian6705_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:34
holyguyverThat is fine, go ahead, ask.05:34
holyguyverDarthFrog: Any answer to my question from an hour ago?05:35
DarthFrogholyguyver:  You're running Trinity so I doubt you'll get an answer here.05:35
holyguyverDarthFrog: Okay, thanks.05:36
DarthFrogAs in I left KDE 3 when KDE 4 was released.05:36
DarthFrogSorry.05:36
brian6705_So I'm on my desktop running Kubuntu and Win 7.  It is connected via ethernet to a belkin router running WRT.  The belkin is being used as a client bridge to my main wireless router which brings in the interwheb.  I'm unable to access anything that is running on the other side of my network from Linux.  So basically, it's linksys on a 1.1 net and belkin on a 2.1 net.  When I'm in windows I can ping the 1.1 side, access the web server on the05:36
brian6705_1.1 router, print on the printer connected to Wifi on the 1.1 side.  Once i boot into Kubuntu, I'm not able to access anything on the far side of the network.  I've tried pinging and tracerouting and I get nothing back.05:36
DarthFrogholyguyver: Tho' I do wonder why you're running Trinity.05:36
holyguyverDarthFrog: I feel KDE4's Konqueror is a downgrade from KDE3.5's Konqueror.05:36
brian6705_The route between the two routers has been setup with a static route between the two (sorry, forgot that part in the first msg)05:37
DarthFrogholyguyver:  What about rekonq?05:37
holyguyverDarthFrog: rekois very very basic & almost nothing like konqueror.05:38
holyguyverrekonq is*05:39
DarthFrogholyguyver: What do you want Konq to do that it doesn't do now but did before?05:39
holyguyverDarthFrog: file search was better before.05:39
holyguyverDarthFrog: I checked, this is a known bug with KDE4 Konqueror05:40
DarthFrogbrian6705_:  Sorry, I haven't a clue.  Probably too much wine. :-)05:40
holyguyverDarthFrog: So I went to Trinity's Konq but it has this seeming bug of not having a programs list.05:41
DarthFrogholyguyver: Does Dolphin not do the file search you want?05:41
holyguyverDarthFrog: too much WINE? That will get you bad viruses ;) .05:41
DarthFrogholyguyver:  No, my wine comes from grapes. :-)05:41
holyguyverDarthFrog: Indeed dolphine does not, plus dolphine is so underpowered compared to Konqueror.05:41
DarthFrogReally?  I'd not thought so.05:42
holyguyverDarthFrog: I stopped using wine years ago, no need, none of the programs were as good as Linux native ones.05:42
holyguyverDarthFrog: Dophine cannot break the screen into 5 different folders in one tab while opening up a http webpage & an ftp in  in another all at the same time.05:44
DarthFrogI agree, I prefer native solutions too.  But WINE is great in it's own right.  And I'm enjoying red wine. :-)05:44
DarthFrogI've never needed to do that. :-)05:44
holyguyverDarthFrog: I have to do that all the time.05:45
DarthFrogAt least, not in a single instance.05:45
holyguyverDarthFrog: I prefer Sangria.05:45
holyguyverI love fruit05:46
holyguyverDarthFrog: So anyway, as shown Dolphine cannot do what I need.05:47
holyguyverDarthFrog: & Konq4 has a bug which is a show stopper & KonqTrinity has a big which is a show stopper.05:48
DarthFrogAnd how about the current iteration of Konq in file manager mode?05:48
holyguyverDarthFrog: I just said, the file search bug.05:48
DarthFrogAh well.  I did mention the red wine. ;-)05:48
holyguyverDarthFrog: If it was Sangria I would join you...well what kind of red wine? A Marlow is nice too.05:49
DarthFrogMerlot is too ... boring.  I'm drinking a shiraz now, a wine with an edge to it.05:50
holyguyverDarthFrog: & Whatever they serve at Church is pretty good too :D05:51
DarthFrogMerlot is too mild, I like bolder flavours.05:51
DarthFrogAnyway, this is off-topic. :-)05:51
holyguyverWould it be off-topic in #wine ?05:52
holyguyverMakes me want to go in there & troll them with wine talk ;)05:53
DarthFrogThere is #kubuntu-offtopic05:53
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chemtailEvery single time firefox is updated, it changes pdf associations to Gimp or Krita instead of Okular.06:25
chemtailI can change it by editing  /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache, but I have to do this manually any time an update happens.06:26
chemtailIs anyone else having this bug, or is it a quirk of my configuration?  I thought this was fixed ages ago.06:26
holyguyverchemtail: Why don't you change about:config so that firefox uses it's internal pdf viewer?06:26
chemtailholyguyver: I prefer PDFs in their separate windows and really like okular's viewing capabilites and speed.06:27
chemtailI haven't tried the internal viewer, but it still would defeat the purpose, and by now this issue has annoyed me so much I'd rather weed it out once and for all.06:27
lordievaderchemtail: I have a feeling that editing a cache file is the problem here. Does firefox override the default applications rule of KDE?06:28
chemtaillordievader: Yep.  Okular is and remains the preferred viewer in KDE and the file managers, etc.06:29
lordievaderchemtail: So firefox has it's own list. I don't have firefox installed on this machine so I cannot check, but I thought there was a page in the firefox settings for this.06:30
chemtailfirefox is overriding them according to the strictures of /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache - and I'm not entirely sure how that keeps getting changed to stupid setting, but I'm pretty sure firefox updates have been responsible every time.06:30
chemtailWell, the funny thing is, okular is still set as the preferred application in firefox's internal file association settings..06:31
chemtail...and it keeps using gimp anyway.06:31
lordievaderIs the cache not a generated file? Hold on rebooting my other machine, will check it out.06:32
chemtailremoving the 'gimp' entry in the mimeinfo cache and replacing it with okular is the only solution i've found.06:32
lordievaderchemtail: What does it say under Firefox Preferences -> Applications -> pdf?06:36
chemtailapplication/pdf reads "save as"06:37
chemtailoctetstream is set to okular06:37
chemtailI prefer it just downloads them and then I usually open them from the downloads list.06:37
chemtailAs mimeinfo.cahce is autogenerated, could there be a global preference settings file I could change that settings are reaad from for mimeinfo.cache autogeneration?06:38
lordievaderchemtail: I thought it was the applications thing... gonna search a bit more.06:39
lordievaderI read here that there are three sys config files for the mime types: all in /usr/share/applications: mimeinfo.cache, mimeapps.list, defaults.list. Hmm on this system none of the tree exists.. maybe because there is no firefox.06:44
lordievaderchemtail: ^06:45
chemtailhrm06:47
chemtailI tried changing defaults.list and root-running  update-menu update-mime update-mime-database -- no luck yet06:47
chemtailI don't seem to have a mimeapps.list either06:48
lordievaderHere is someone who had some luck with the mimeapps.list file: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181220806:48
chemtailthough I'm tempted to set mimeinfo.cache to read-only or something06:48
lordievaderHehehe, I can understand that ;)06:49
chemtailSeems none of those have any effect.06:52
chemtailI guess the cleanest I can come up with is forcing a post-(un)install parsing and replacement script on apt whenever it does anything.06:53
lordievaderWhat do you actually change in the mimeinfo.cache file?06:53
chemtailThe line that currently reads application/pdf=gimp.desktop;gimp.desktop;kde4-krita_pdf.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_pdf.desktop;06:54
chemtailremoving all those stupid associations, of course.06:54
chemtailNot that hard, but I've had to do it 4 times just this week.06:54
chemtailAnd every now and then I get surprise gimp re-associations out of the blue.06:55
lordievaderOkular is in the list though... If you do not care about gimp associations you could hi-jack the gim.desktop file. Let it start okular instead of gimp :P06:56
chemtailheh, alas, I sometimes juice teh gimp.06:56
chemtailAnd the list is okay enough, just in the wrong order.06:57
chemtailI suppose, since this happened after I installed gimp, I could uninstall and reinstall okular, but that threatens to pull kdesktop with it, and I'm not uninstalling the desktop just because gimp's post-install is acting fail.06:57
chemtailThough I suspect that would put it in the right order somehow.06:58
lordievaderIf it is only the "kubuntu-desktop" package it is okay, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package <- just a bunch of dependencies.07:00
hingoWhat is the relationship between Kubuntu and the various Canonical services, like Ubuntu One? If I install from a Kubuntu ISO, will it at any point offer to install those? Otoh, if I first intall Ubuntu ISO and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop, is there a difference? (I'd like to see and try the Canonical services.)07:16
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chemtailThx for the assistance anywhat, lordievader07:21
jussicould someone inform me how to change my hostname?08:10
Tm_Tjussi: I think this article describes what needs to be changed rather well: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/how-to-change-hostname-computer-name-in.html08:11
lordievaderThe way I do it is change the file /etc/hostname and a reboot. But I'm not sure if this is the proper way to do so.08:11
Tm_Tlordievader: it's to right direction but not enough (:08:12
lordievaderOh right I allways forget the hosts file... then it complains it cannot find the new hostname and I remember to edit that file...08:13
Maci__Hi, I installed Ubuntu, and moved all my windows pictures and files to my ubuntu space. I removed windows, but now I want to make ubuntu my primary. It still has 500gb of unallocated space from where my windows was, and I want to use that space to extend my ubuntu space.08:14
rosco_yI just installed ubuntu 12.10--how do I install the kde desktop manager?08:14
lordievaderrosco_y: Easiest is to install the "kubuntu-desktop" package.08:15
rosco_ylordievader: ty.  I especially don't know what I'm doing here in unity, how do I open a package manager?08:17
rosco_yor, is that "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:18
rosco_yand would that be the full package (plasma, etc.)08:18
lordievaderrosco_y: Kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, a bunch of dependencies. It will be as if you installed a copy of Kubuntu :)08:19
lordievaderrosco_y: Apt-get will do fine :D08:19
rosco_ylordievader: ty, that's just what I was hoping for :)08:19
rosco_yI'm getting an error: "KVM Disabled by bios" when I'm booting up.  My system doesn't support kvm--am I just out of luck here?08:22
rosco_yDoes anyone have experience/advice on what I need to do use install Nvidia Drivers in 12.10?08:39
jussirosco_y: yeah, go to the menu, go to system, additional drivers08:43
rosco_yjussi: :( It seems like a lot of people have been having trouble with that....08:44
rosco_yso I'm a little jumpy on going that route08:44
jussirosco_y: worked for me, and is the officially supported method08:45
rosco_ydid that happen to work for you?08:45
jussiyes08:45
rosco_ywhich card do you have?08:45
jussiI have an nvidia 9500 and an 860008:45
rosco_yI'm tempted to give it a shot08:45
rosco_yI think mine is a 9-something08:45
rosco_ywhich one did you enable (it looks like there are four choices)08:46
rosco_ydid it rebuild your kernel when you enabled it?08:47
jussiI dont remember, think I used "current"08:48
jussiNot on that machine at the moment08:49
rosco_yThanks jussi, I'm not sure what I should do....I've had bad luck setting this up, and I hate to go back to square one.....08:49
jussiso, I need to know how to set where sent items go in kontact, if anyone remembers08:50
rosco_yfor some reason, grub2 is a real pain in my side....08:50
rosco_yI don't use kontact, I'd look for a hidden directory in my home folder08:50
rosco_yprobably be ".kontact"08:51
rosco_ybut that's just a guess.08:51
rosco_yWell, I'll activate the first one.  what's anothe reinstall?08:51
rosco_ylive and don't learn....that's me....08:52
rosco_ymust be recompiling the kernel, it's taking much longer than it would to simply download a driver08:53
gorgonizer_jussi: I think you need to edit the settings in Manage Identities in Kmail settings..08:56
jussigorgonizer_: ahh, exactly, thanks09:01
gorgonizer_jussi: np, glad to be of service..09:01
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jussiok, next kontact question, can I import my calendar from another PC?09:24
gorgonizer_jussi: is the calendar shared on the other PC?09:25
jussigorgonizer_: Im migrating from one PC to another. so I just want to get my calendar events from the old one to the new one09:26
gorgonizer_jussi: in that case you may need to export the calendar on the old PC, then transfer the file to the new PC, then Import it..09:27
jussigorgonizer_: ahh, so it can be done that way, guess I need to go find export things...09:27
n8w..10:02
n8whey guys10:02
n8wfor some reason, my konsole remote tab no longer shows the username and the remote dir eventhough i have defined it: (%u) %H%w10:03
n8wit just shows ~: bash10:03
deavelleyehey guys, i was wondering if you could help me. I just upgraded to Kubuntu 13.0 and since the upgrade i've had a constant issue with my microphone. => Crackling/Distorsed sound that i cannot seem to make it go away. any clues or ideas on what it might be? My guess would be pulseaudio, but what exactly? the codec? I've made some research on the issue, but nothing on kub 13.0 or 12.011:33
deavelleyeanyone?11:35
OerHeksdeavelleye, join #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 issues & support11:37
deavelleyeThanks a lot DerHeks11:40
jussihrm, gorgonizer_ a slightly more tricky one for you, if you like :D11:46
gorgonizer_jussi: okay, I will give it a try :)11:47
jussiI adjusted the sent folder in identities, which is fine. however, sending email invites from the calendar still puts the sent mails in local folders...11:47
jussiany ideas?11:47
gorgonizer_where have you set the sent emails to go instead of the local sent folder?11:48
jussithe remote sent folder11:48
jussiso that when I log in from webmial I still have them11:48
gorgonizer_is the remote email a POP3 or IMAP email account?11:49
jussiimap11:49
jussiits _only_ the mails which are sent from the calendar app. all others from the mail app go to the correct place11:49
gorgonizer_oooh, let me have a quick play, never experienced that...11:50
gorgonizer_jussi: just tried it here (created a new event and added my work email address as a test) and the email appeared in both my local sent email folder and my Gmail sent folder..11:55
jussigorgonizer_: yeah gmail does something different. normal IMAP is strange11:55
gorgonizer_ahh, right, okay, bare with me, will set up my work email in IMAP in kmail and try it that way..11:56
jussigorgonizer_: Ill keep playing also, Ill let you know if I find a solution11:58
gorgonizer_yeah, I experienced the same issue, I am unsure if the issue is due to my defauls SMTP server being the Gmail server, and my works SMTP server does not let me use it whilst not on their network :(12:07
gorgonizer_jussi: my housemate (who runs works IT) might be able to help me test fully so I can resolve the issue, but I won't see him until later..12:09
BluesKajHi alj12:10
jussigorgonizer_: no probs, lets see what happens - I certainly havent found settings pertaining to this12:15
ovidiu-florinhello world :D12:15
* jussi asks in #kontact12:15
gorgonizer_jussi: neither have I, though I have only recently started using calendars...12:16
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FlowRiserhey guys, i have a problem; Whenever i launch a full screen application (like a game or software that uses openGl), i can't switch from it with alt-tab. It appears to be switching actually, but the window of the game still covers the whole screen, animates and whatnot, but isn't responsive to clicks and keyboard events, meanwhile the app that is active responds properly, but is covered by the fullscreen one. Does anyone know how to fix13:01
FlowRiser this ?13:01
BluesKajFlowRiser, alt tab never workerd for me , all it does is zoom out , but doesn't switch like I was led to believe13:07
monkeyjuicehmm works on my 12.0413:10
BluesKajhey monkeyjuice , explain what it does on your setup13:15
BluesKajdoes it switch destops or ?13:16
BluesKajdesktops13:16
monkeyjuicezooms out shows all open programs , if you hit the tab it move thru them , when you release alt it goes to the highlited program13:16
BluesKajon the same desktop od different desktops?13:18
BluesKajor13:18
monkeyjuicesame desktop13:18
monkeyjuiceonly using 2 desktops total i dont switch desktop to much13:19
monkeyjuiceit must be a compiz setting ?13:20
BluesKajheh I use 613:20
monkeyjuicedont remember13:20
BluesKajyeah id i have them on the same desktop the tab key switches13:20
BluesKajif13:20
monkeyjuicehmmm not sure if i move to 2nd desktop what it will do let me try that13:21
monkeyjuiceya it dosent show the other desktop i have to switch to it first13:22
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ScottyKGreetings! when do you think KDE 4.10 will be available in the normal repos? Thanks!14:07
BluesKajScottyK, you can have it now ,by adding the backports14:08
barretthola14:09
barrettalguien de concepcion14:11
ScottyKIs there stability problems with adding files from the backports? Or is 4.10 stable enough for daily use?14:13
BluesKajScottyK, depends , if you'ree a slightly adventurous home user , then install 4.10 , if you're at work , then wait for it to land in the default repos14:15
BluesKajI'm a home user and 4.10 is working fine here14:17
ScottyKBluesKaj - thanks! Any estimate when it will arrive in the default repos? I'm fine for it on my computer, but my mom-in-law's computer I value stability!14:29
BluesKajit's stable enough for home use ScottyK ...I haven't had a problem yet , on the job real critical stability requirements are different of course14:31
ScottyKexcellent. I'll go load the backports now. Thanks!14:31
BluesKajok14:32
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BluesKaj, time to push some snow ...BBL15:53
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qwhello all16:23
qwhelp me please upgrade my OS16:23
qwbeacouse i am use 10.0416:24
BluesKaj!10.0416:33
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)16:33
BluesKaj!LTS16:33
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)16:33
BluesKaj!upgrade16:34
ubottuFor upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu16:34
BluesKajqw^16:34
BluesKajqw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/126833/lts-to-lts-upgrade16:38
BluesKajok , back to work16:41
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shassardHi folks. I'm trying to do an 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' on my kubuntu 12.10 box w/ backports ppa and it appears that an updated some kde libs package is trying to force my box to remove all my kubuntu packages. Any idea what's up with this?16:51
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shassardhttp://pastebin.com/Na9NpJXC16:54
rosco_ydoes anyone know of a nice, little kde widgit that works as a caps-lock indicator?16:56
rosco_yI had a nice small one in my openSUSE installation, but now I'm tryiing ubuntu (so far, so good), and can't find the plasmoid anymore :(16:58
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rosco_y"AHL BE BACK..."16:59
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james147_shassard: try running "sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop"17:03
shassardjames147_: kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.17:04
shassardit looks like dist-upgrade has broken deps in the repos right now.17:04
rosco_yDoes zypper work with ubuntu?17:05
rosco_yhow do I search the repositories for packages with apt?17:05
james147_shassard: probally, installing kubuntu-desktop should fix the problem if you do end up removing those packages (by accdent or not)17:06
shassardjames147_: well, another 'apt-get update' seems to have updated the repos again, and apt-get seems satisfied now.17:06
james147_rosco_y: no, zypper is rpm based, kubuntu is deb based.17:06
james147_rosco_y: apt-get search <pattern>    will search the repos for pattern17:07
rosco_yjames147_: ty.17:07
shassard'apt-cache search ..'17:07
james147_shassard: ahh yeah :)17:08
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james147_I forget searching uses a different program... for no real reason :p17:08
rosco_ywhat is GKrellM?17:09
rosco_y(I feel the urge to do a google search)17:09
james147_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GKrellM ... looks like a system monitor17:10
james147_kde already has plenty of them built into it :)17:10
rosco_yy, I found some keyboard leds based on GKrellM17:11
rosco_ychecking them out now....17:11
rosco_ywell, I don't know how to find what I installed, maybe it was a module that worked with the system monitor.......17:14
rosco_yor something like that17:14
shassardcat /var/log/dpkg.log17:15
shassardthat should show you the history of package install/upgrades17:15
rosco_yI found a caps-lock indicator widgit, and added to my panel, but it's invisible unless I click on it--is there a way to make it visible all the time?17:22
james147_rosco_y: What is the widgets name exactly?17:36
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rosco_yI've installed my kubuntu 12.10 to an 80 g hd, I have an unused 750 g hd I'd like to format and mount as /home, can anyone advise me--point me in the right direction?18:03
shadeslayerrosco_y: format as required and then edit /etc/fstab ?18:04
shadeslayerofcourse, you'd still need to copy your current /home to the formatted drive18:05
rosco_yshadeslayer: ty.  Can you recommend a fs that you think I should use?18:05
shadeslayerext418:05
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rosco_ycan I use a gui to copy my home directory, or would that miss things?18:06
shadeslayerwell18:07
yofelif you copy the folder itself, i.e /home/$USER, you're fine18:07
shadeslayerI'd suggest rsync'ing it18:07
rosco_yrsync?18:07
rosco_yty yofel, it does seem like that would do the job18:08
rosco_yso, 1) Format, 2) rsync, 3) fstab 4) reboot.  Does that seem right?18:08
rosco_y3.5) save old fstab ?18:09
rosco_ykudos  shadeslayer, yofel,18:10
yofel4) grub-install, 5) reboot18:10
yofelif you mean to just rsync the whole OS18:10
shadeslayergrub-install?18:10
shadeslayeryofel: why would he need grub-install?18:11
yofelI personally rsync the whole OS if I replace disks18:11
yofelthat means I need to re-setup a few things by hand18:11
rosco_yyofel: n, you missed part of the conversation--I'm just adding a disk and moving my home18:11
shadeslayerwell .. he's only moving /home18:11
yofeler18:11
rosco_ybut ty anyhoo18:11
rosco_y:)18:11
rosco_ynp18:11
yofelyeah, I missed that ^^18:11
yofelthen you're fine18:11
rosco_yI believe I can get though this18:12
rosco_yer, new thought just came to mind--does it seem like it'd be a good use of the drive to use it for archives?18:14
genii-aroundYou could always do something like bind-mount it to /home/username/Pictures    or something...18:15
rosco_ygenii-around: ty, that sounds very interesting18:16
rosco_yI've never heard of bind-mount, does it sort of extend the existing mounted partition?18:17
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genii-aroundrosco_y: Well, if you have a directory someplace, you can mount that specific directory under another directory on a different drive. So if you have for instance a disk with maybe three directories like Fred George Ellen and nothing else, (and all those directories are owned by those users) then you can for instance mount Fred to like /home/Fred/Pictures18:19
rosco_yoh, a lot link symbolic linking then18:20
rosco_yThanks, that's a pretty cool idea!18:20
rosco_ywell, I've got a lot of stuff to do here....so I'll get busy.  If history repeats itself, I'll be back with more questions.  Thanks everyone--I wouldn't have a chance without you!18:22
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SonikkuAmericaclear18:41
mandoguithmmm..........somthing new is happening since the last update on my Kernel: 3.8.0-6-generic x86_64 (64 bit)18:53
mandoguit           Desktop: KDE 4.10.00 Distro: Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (development branch) install.    if I click on an app on my panel, the app being currently displayed will minimize to the panel and the newly clicked one will appear.   I would prefer all opened apps display on screen unless I manually minimize them.   Was wondering if this was some kind of toggle in kde's settings that was changed during the last update?   If so wher18:53
mandoguite would I access to change the setting?   thanks.   :)18:53
FloodBotK1mandoguit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:53
genii-around!raring18:53
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+118:53
mandoguitahhh...ok thanks genii-around  :)18:53
mandoguitso this buglet doesn't sound like normal operation even for the stable kubuntu release (pretty much a newbie to kde interface_18:55
mandoguitlol   just figured out what was happening.   I as a general rule don't use more than one desktop.   some of the apps where on other desktops and so that was why some apps where disappearing when other apps were clicked to be displayed.    silly me............ :)19:07
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BluesKaj..BBL19:29
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genii-aroundWell, since it's quiet I guess I'll ask a question of my own. eg: I have a wallpaper set for my cube background, and a small inner section of that wallpaper that I copied and cropped out to use for the cap of the cube. The idea is that when you are looking directly down upon the cube, it lines up exactly with the background and blends in. But because the cube settings themself have transparency involved, it stands out instead. Any way to make19:40
genii-aroundonly the cap of the cube opaque ?19:40
* genii-around goes and makes more coffee19:44
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shadeslayergenii-around: not that I know of, but since it's a kwin plugin #kwin might now of some hidden way19:57
calwigRemove the CFL lamps from home, rooms, offices, immediately. Mercury poisoning is permanently damaging and does not allow the body to heal if an energy saving lamp breaks immediately. Mercury Poisoning is lethal20:04
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genii-aroundcalwig: That's perhaps interesting to know or debate, but this is a support channel.20:07
genii-aroundshadeslayer: Thanks, perhaps I'll ask there in a little while20:07
z3r0d3gr33hi all20:14
BluesKajgenii-around, how did manage to put wallpaper on the cube cap ?20:30
BluesKajerr did you20:30
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genii-aroundBluesKaj: In kwinrc, you add under section [Effect-Cube]     a couple entries like: CapPath=/home/mike/Pictures/bubbles-800x800.jpg  in my case20:32
calwiggenii-around, yes, and Im sorry for posting this. It is of uttmost importance to everyone in the community20:32
BluesKajcalwig, most ppl are aware of your concerns about mercury dangers , it's not new20:34
BluesKajthanks genii-around20:34
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faust1002hello guys21:15
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SpecialistHi there! iI there any PPA that still has KDE 4.9.x packages for precise? I need to downgrade again from 4.10.0, which has way too many bugs for me to use on a daily basis...21:17
BluesKajSpecialist, which bugs ?21:21
SpecialistBluesKaj: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314669, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31116721:22
ubottuKDE bug 314669 in general "USB headset comes back as muted after suspend/resume cycle" [Normal,Confirmed]21:22
ubottuKDE bug 311167 in Backend: Pulseaudio "KMix crashes when moving stream between devices" [Crash,Unconfirmed]21:22
Specialistand https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31394321:24
BluesKajSpecialist, do you have pavucontrol installed , it will probly help direct your audio signals without errors21:24
ubottuKDE bug 313943 in qml-components "Suspend to RAM QueryDialog rendered too small" [Normal,Confirmed]21:24
SpecialistBluesKaj: Sure, but that does not help with the muted streams. It is just annoying to have to unmute each morning (sometimes only a reboot will help). This worked perfectly in 4.9.521:25
BluesKajSpecialist, are you actually experiencing the posted bugs ?21:25
SpecialistBluesKaj: Yep21:25
BluesKajodd , have you set up alsamixer ?21:26
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Specialistalsamixer is installed, if you mean that by 'set up'21:26
BluesKajno, I mean set up the ctrls etc , and make sure they are unmuted and turned up etc21:27
Specialistsure, they are. then I do a suspend/resume (S3) cycle and everything is a mess.21:29
Specialistiirc I had a similar problem earlier when some ubuntu pulseaudio scripts were interfering with what phonon was doing during suspend. but before the 4.9.5 -> 4.10.0 upgrade everything worked flawlessly21:30
BluesKajSpecialist, have you updated /upgraded and dist-upgraded since you installed 4.10\21:30
genii-aroundshadeslayer: #kwin is like a ghost town :(21:31
Specialistyep, but as I am writing this I noticed that there are a bunch of updated KDE packages available21:31
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Specialisti'll see whether these make any difference21:33
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BluesKajgenii-around, I've never rolled back a kde version . how is that accomplished ?21:39
Specialisti'd use ppa-purge to get rid of the new ppa, get an old ppa, reinstall, restore .kde from backups21:40
BluesKajgenii-around, remove kubuntu desktop , delete or comment the backports and reinstall kubuntu-desktop ?21:41
genii-aroundBluesKaj: Somewhat of what Specialist is saying21:41
BluesKaji just delete the pps from sources.list.d21:41
BluesKajppa21:41
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BluesKajthen Specialist i guess if you're not happy , then you know what to do21:43
SpecialistBluesKaj: well, if I could locate a PPA that still has 4.9.5 :-/21:43
BluesKajanyway time for other things ..gotta go21:43
genii-aroundBluesKaj: I used to install older versions of apps with just sudo apt-get install package=EXACT-VERSION-NUMBER-HERE    type idea, but in this case it would depend too if the previous version you want is also in that same ppa but just prior to the one you don't want, or in the standard repositories21:44
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faust1002going sleep, bye21:53
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robtygartI just updated in 12.04 and now I can't get any videos. No flash.23:07
robtygartAny ideas? or is there a way to revert back to last?23:08
genii-aroundrobtygart: Is the package kubuntu-restricted-extras  installed?23:13
robtygartyes23:13
robtygartgenii-around: its in, I also purged and reinstalled flashplugin-installer23:14
genii-aroundrobtygart: What is the result of: ls -l /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin23:19
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robtygartgenii-around: http://paste.kde.org/672644/23:29
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genii-aroundrobtygart: It's showing your default flash player as gnash and not adobe there...23:30
div33435i want to install java for my browsers.  i installed  openjdk java 7 runtime and restarted chrome but it still doesnt have the plugin23:33
div33435using muon*23:33

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