[00:21] <tsudo> Hello!
[00:33] <phoenix_firebrd> good night everyone
[00:33] <monkeyjuice> nite
[02:26] <rsolli> games
[03:52] <ScottyK> When do you think KDE 4.10 will be available in the normal repos (not backports)?
[04:14] <holyguyver> I am using Trinity (already asked in their room, no response) and When I click on a file in Konqueror, Konqueror doesn't know of any apps to open them with & the list of options is blank too, & this is for any file, jpg, mpg, html, ect.
[04:30] <holyguyver> Here is a screenshot http://i46.tinypic.com/vrsboi.png
[04:37] <holyguyver> Anyone?
[04:50] <holyguyver> I am using Trinity (already asked in their room, no response) and When I click on a file in Konqueror, Konqueror doesn't know of any apps to open them with & the list of options is blank too, & this is for any file, jpg, mpg, html, ect. http://i46.tinypic.com/vrsboi.png
[05:31] <brian6705_> I've got a stupid question that involves Kubuntu and DD-WRT, but I think it's mostly a WRT config issue.
[05:33] <holyguyver> okay, ask
[05:33] <brian6705_> Sorry, wasn't quite sure of the ettiquite of IRC anymore
[05:34] <DarthFrog> !ask | brian6705_
[05:34] <holyguyver> That is fine, go ahead, ask.
[05:35] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: Any answer to my question from an hour ago?
[05:35] <DarthFrog> holyguyver:  You're running Trinity so I doubt you'll get an answer here.
[05:36] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: Okay, thanks.
[05:36] <DarthFrog> As in I left KDE 3 when KDE 4 was released.
[05:36] <DarthFrog> Sorry.
[05:36] <brian6705_> So I'm on my desktop running Kubuntu and Win 7.  It is connected via ethernet to a belkin router running WRT.  The belkin is being used as a client bridge to my main wireless router which brings in the interwheb.  I'm unable to access anything that is running on the other side of my network from Linux.  So basically, it's linksys on a 1.1 net and belkin on a 2.1 net.  When I'm in windows I can ping the 1.1 side, access the web server on the
[05:36] <brian6705_> 1.1 router, print on the printer connected to Wifi on the 1.1 side.  Once i boot into Kubuntu, I'm not able to access anything on the far side of the network.  I've tried pinging and tracerouting and I get nothing back.
[05:36] <DarthFrog> holyguyver: Tho' I do wonder why you're running Trinity.
[05:36] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: I feel KDE4's Konqueror is a downgrade from KDE3.5's Konqueror.
[05:37] <brian6705_> The route between the two routers has been setup with a static route between the two (sorry, forgot that part in the first msg)
[05:37] <DarthFrog> holyguyver:  What about rekonq?
[05:38] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: rekois very very basic & almost nothing like konqueror.
[05:39] <holyguyver> rekonq is*
[05:39] <DarthFrog> holyguyver: What do you want Konq to do that it doesn't do now but did before?
[05:39] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: file search was better before.
[05:40] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: I checked, this is a known bug with KDE4 Konqueror
[05:40] <DarthFrog> brian6705_:  Sorry, I haven't a clue.  Probably too much wine. :-)
[05:41] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: So I went to Trinity's Konq but it has this seeming bug of not having a programs list.
[05:41] <DarthFrog> holyguyver: Does Dolphin not do the file search you want?
[05:41] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: too much WINE? That will get you bad viruses ;) .
[05:41] <DarthFrog> holyguyver:  No, my wine comes from grapes. :-)
[05:41] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: Indeed dolphine does not, plus dolphine is so underpowered compared to Konqueror.
[05:42] <DarthFrog> Really?  I'd not thought so.
[05:42] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: I stopped using wine years ago, no need, none of the programs were as good as Linux native ones.
[05:44] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: Dophine cannot break the screen into 5 different folders in one tab while opening up a http webpage & an ftp in  in another all at the same time.
[05:44] <DarthFrog> I agree, I prefer native solutions too.  But WINE is great in it's own right.  And I'm enjoying red wine. :-)
[05:44] <DarthFrog> I've never needed to do that. :-)
[05:45] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: I have to do that all the time.
[05:45] <DarthFrog> At least, not in a single instance.
[05:45] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: I prefer Sangria.
[05:46] <holyguyver> I love fruit
[05:47] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: So anyway, as shown Dolphine cannot do what I need.
[05:48] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: & Konq4 has a bug which is a show stopper & KonqTrinity has a big which is a show stopper.
[05:48] <DarthFrog> And how about the current iteration of Konq in file manager mode?
[05:48] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: I just said, the file search bug.
[05:48] <DarthFrog> Ah well.  I did mention the red wine. ;-)
[05:49] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: If it was Sangria I would join you...well what kind of red wine? A Marlow is nice too.
[05:50] <DarthFrog> Merlot is too ... boring.  I'm drinking a shiraz now, a wine with an edge to it.
[05:51] <holyguyver> DarthFrog: & Whatever they serve at Church is pretty good too :D
[05:51] <DarthFrog> Merlot is too mild, I like bolder flavours.
[05:51] <DarthFrog> Anyway, this is off-topic. :-)
[05:52] <holyguyver> Would it be off-topic in #wine ?
[05:53] <holyguyver> Makes me want to go in there & troll them with wine talk ;)
[05:53] <DarthFrog> There is #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:25] <chemtail> Every single time firefox is updated, it changes pdf associations to Gimp or Krita instead of Okular.
[06:26] <chemtail> I can change it by editing  /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache, but I have to do this manually any time an update happens.
[06:26] <chemtail> Is anyone else having this bug, or is it a quirk of my configuration?  I thought this was fixed ages ago.
[06:26] <holyguyver> chemtail: Why don't you change about:config so that firefox uses it's internal pdf viewer?
[06:27] <chemtail> holyguyver: I prefer PDFs in their separate windows and really like okular's viewing capabilites and speed.
[06:27] <chemtail> I haven't tried the internal viewer, but it still would defeat the purpose, and by now this issue has annoyed me so much I'd rather weed it out once and for all.
[06:28] <lordievader> chemtail: I have a feeling that editing a cache file is the problem here. Does firefox override the default applications rule of KDE?
[06:29] <chemtail> lordievader: Yep.  Okular is and remains the preferred viewer in KDE and the file managers, etc.
[06:30] <lordievader> chemtail: So firefox has it's own list. I don't have firefox installed on this machine so I cannot check, but I thought there was a page in the firefox settings for this.
[06:30] <chemtail> firefox is overriding them according to the strictures of /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache - and I'm not entirely sure how that keeps getting changed to stupid setting, but I'm pretty sure firefox updates have been responsible every time.
[06:31] <chemtail> Well, the funny thing is, okular is still set as the preferred application in firefox's internal file association settings..
[06:31] <chemtail> ...and it keeps using gimp anyway.
[06:32] <lordievader> Is the cache not a generated file? Hold on rebooting my other machine, will check it out.
[06:32] <chemtail> removing the 'gimp' entry in the mimeinfo cache and replacing it with okular is the only solution i've found.
[06:36] <lordievader> chemtail: What does it say under Firefox Preferences -> Applications -> pdf?
[06:37] <chemtail> application/pdf reads "save as"
[06:37] <chemtail> octetstream is set to okular
[06:37] <chemtail> I prefer it just downloads them and then I usually open them from the downloads list.
[06:38] <chemtail> As mimeinfo.cahce is autogenerated, could there be a global preference settings file I could change that settings are reaad from for mimeinfo.cache autogeneration?
[06:39] <lordievader> chemtail: I thought it was the applications thing... gonna search a bit more.
[06:44] <lordievader> I read here that there are three sys config files for the mime types: all in /usr/share/applications: mimeinfo.cache, mimeapps.list, defaults.list. Hmm on this system none of the tree exists.. maybe because there is no firefox.
[06:45] <lordievader> chemtail: ^
[06:47] <chemtail> hrm
[06:47] <chemtail> I tried changing defaults.list and root-running  update-menu update-mime update-mime-database -- no luck yet
[06:48] <chemtail> I don't seem to have a mimeapps.list either
[06:48] <lordievader> Here is someone who had some luck with the mimeapps.list file: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1812208
[06:48] <chemtail> though I'm tempted to set mimeinfo.cache to read-only or something
[06:49] <lordievader> Hehehe, I can understand that ;)
[06:52] <chemtail> Seems none of those have any effect.
[06:53] <chemtail> I guess the cleanest I can come up with is forcing a post-(un)install parsing and replacement script on apt whenever it does anything.
[06:53] <lordievader> What do you actually change in the mimeinfo.cache file?
[06:54] <chemtail> The line that currently reads application/pdf=gimp.desktop;gimp.desktop;kde4-krita_pdf.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_pdf.desktop;
[06:54] <chemtail> removing all those stupid associations, of course.
[06:54] <chemtail> Not that hard, but I've had to do it 4 times just this week.
[06:55] <chemtail> And every now and then I get surprise gimp re-associations out of the blue.
[06:56] <lordievader> Okular is in the list though... If you do not care about gimp associations you could hi-jack the gim.desktop file. Let it start okular instead of gimp :P
[06:56] <chemtail> heh, alas, I sometimes juice teh gimp.
[06:57] <chemtail> And the list is okay enough, just in the wrong order.
[06:57] <chemtail> I suppose, since this happened after I installed gimp, I could uninstall and reinstall okular, but that threatens to pull kdesktop with it, and I'm not uninstalling the desktop just because gimp's post-install is acting fail.
[06:58] <chemtail> Though I suspect that would put it in the right order somehow.
[07:00] <lordievader> If it is only the "kubuntu-desktop" package it is okay, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package <- just a bunch of dependencies.
[07:16] <hingo> What is the relationship between Kubuntu and the various Canonical services, like Ubuntu One? If I install from a Kubuntu ISO, will it at any point offer to install those? Otoh, if I first intall Ubuntu ISO and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop, is there a difference? (I'd like to see and try the Canonical services.)
[07:21] <chemtail> Thx for the assistance anywhat, lordievader
[08:10] <jussi> could someone inform me how to change my hostname?
[08:11] <Tm_T> jussi: I think this article describes what needs to be changed rather well: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/how-to-change-hostname-computer-name-in.html
[08:11] <lordievader> The way I do it is change the file /etc/hostname and a reboot. But I'm not sure if this is the proper way to do so.
[08:12] <Tm_T> lordievader: it's to right direction but not enough (:
[08:13] <lordievader> Oh right I allways forget the hosts file... then it complains it cannot find the new hostname and I remember to edit that file...
[08:14] <Maci__> Hi, I installed Ubuntu, and moved all my windows pictures and files to my ubuntu space. I removed windows, but now I want to make ubuntu my primary. It still has 500gb of unallocated space from where my windows was, and I want to use that space to extend my ubuntu space.
[08:14] <rosco_y> I just installed ubuntu 12.10--how do I install the kde desktop manager?
[08:15] <lordievader> rosco_y: Easiest is to install the "kubuntu-desktop" package.
[08:17] <rosco_y> lordievader: ty.  I especially don't know what I'm doing here in unity, how do I open a package manager?
[08:18] <rosco_y> or, is that "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <rosco_y> and would that be the full package (plasma, etc.)
[08:19] <lordievader> rosco_y: Kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, a bunch of dependencies. It will be as if you installed a copy of Kubuntu :)
[08:19] <lordievader> rosco_y: Apt-get will do fine :D
[08:19] <rosco_y> lordievader: ty, that's just what I was hoping for :)
[08:22] <rosco_y> I'm getting an error: "KVM Disabled by bios" when I'm booting up.  My system doesn't support kvm--am I just out of luck here?
[08:39] <rosco_y> Does anyone have experience/advice on what I need to do use install Nvidia Drivers in 12.10?
[08:43] <jussi> rosco_y: yeah, go to the menu, go to system, additional drivers
[08:44] <rosco_y> jussi: :( It seems like a lot of people have been having trouble with that....
[08:44] <rosco_y> so I'm a little jumpy on going that route
[08:45] <jussi> rosco_y: worked for me, and is the officially supported method
[08:45] <rosco_y> did that happen to work for you?
[08:45] <jussi> yes
[08:45] <rosco_y> which card do you have?
[08:45] <jussi> I have an nvidia 9500 and an 8600
[08:45] <rosco_y> I'm tempted to give it a shot
[08:45] <rosco_y> I think mine is a 9-something
[08:46] <rosco_y> which one did you enable (it looks like there are four choices)
[08:47] <rosco_y> did it rebuild your kernel when you enabled it?
[08:48] <jussi> I dont remember, think I used "current"
[08:49] <jussi> Not on that machine at the moment
[08:49] <rosco_y> Thanks jussi, I'm not sure what I should do....I've had bad luck setting this up, and I hate to go back to square one.....
[08:50] <jussi> so, I need to know how to set where sent items go in kontact, if anyone remembers
[08:50] <rosco_y> for some reason, grub2 is a real pain in my side....
[08:50] <rosco_y> I don't use kontact, I'd look for a hidden directory in my home folder
[08:51] <rosco_y> probably be ".kontact"
[08:51] <rosco_y> but that's just a guess.
[08:51] <rosco_y> Well, I'll activate the first one.  what's anothe reinstall?
[08:52] <rosco_y> live and don't learn....that's me....
[08:53] <rosco_y> must be recompiling the kernel, it's taking much longer than it would to simply download a driver
[08:56] <gorgonizer_> jussi: I think you need to edit the settings in Manage Identities in Kmail settings..
[09:01] <jussi> gorgonizer_: ahh, exactly, thanks
[09:01] <gorgonizer_> jussi: np, glad to be of service..
[09:24] <jussi> ok, next kontact question, can I import my calendar from another PC?
[09:25] <gorgonizer_> jussi: is the calendar shared on the other PC?
[09:26] <jussi> gorgonizer_: Im migrating from one PC to another. so I just want to get my calendar events from the old one to the new one
[09:27] <gorgonizer_> jussi: in that case you may need to export the calendar on the old PC, then transfer the file to the new PC, then Import it..
[09:27] <jussi> gorgonizer_: ahh, so it can be done that way, guess I need to go find export things...
[10:02] <n8w> ..
[10:02] <n8w> hey guys
[10:03] <n8w> for some reason, my konsole remote tab no longer shows the username and the remote dir eventhough i have defined it: (%u) %H%w
[10:03] <n8w> it just shows ~: bash
[11:33] <deavelleye> hey guys, i was wondering if you could help me. I just upgraded to Kubuntu 13.0 and since the upgrade i've had a constant issue with my microphone. => Crackling/Distorsed sound that i cannot seem to make it go away. any clues or ideas on what it might be? My guess would be pulseaudio, but what exactly? the codec? I've made some research on the issue, but nothing on kub 13.0 or 12.0
[11:35] <deavelleye> anyone?
[11:37] <OerHeks> deavelleye, join #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 issues & support
[11:40] <deavelleye> Thanks a lot DerHeks
[11:46] <jussi> hrm, gorgonizer_ a slightly more tricky one for you, if you like :D
[11:47] <gorgonizer_> jussi: okay, I will give it a try :)
[11:47] <jussi> I adjusted the sent folder in identities, which is fine. however, sending email invites from the calendar still puts the sent mails in local folders...
[11:47] <jussi> any ideas?
[11:48] <gorgonizer_> where have you set the sent emails to go instead of the local sent folder?
[11:48] <jussi> the remote sent folder
[11:48] <jussi> so that when I log in from webmial I still have them
[11:49] <gorgonizer_> is the remote email a POP3 or IMAP email account?
[11:49] <jussi> imap
[11:49] <jussi> its _only_ the mails which are sent from the calendar app. all others from the mail app go to the correct place
[11:50] <gorgonizer_> oooh, let me have a quick play, never experienced that...
[11:55] <gorgonizer_> jussi: just tried it here (created a new event and added my work email address as a test) and the email appeared in both my local sent email folder and my Gmail sent folder..
[11:55] <jussi> gorgonizer_: yeah gmail does something different. normal IMAP is strange
[11:56] <gorgonizer_> ahh, right, okay, bare with me, will set up my work email in IMAP in kmail and try it that way..
[11:58] <jussi> gorgonizer_: Ill keep playing also, Ill let you know if I find a solution
[12:07] <gorgonizer_> yeah, I experienced the same issue, I am unsure if the issue is due to my defauls SMTP server being the Gmail server, and my works SMTP server does not let me use it whilst not on their network :(
[12:09] <gorgonizer_> jussi: my housemate (who runs works IT) might be able to help me test fully so I can resolve the issue, but I won't see him until later..
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi alj
[12:15] <jussi> gorgonizer_: no probs, lets see what happens - I certainly havent found settings pertaining to this
[12:15] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[12:15]  * jussi asks in #kontact
[12:16] <gorgonizer_> jussi: neither have I, though I have only recently started using calendars...
[13:01] <FlowRiser> hey guys, i have a problem; Whenever i launch a full screen application (like a game or software that uses openGl), i can't switch from it with alt-tab. It appears to be switching actually, but the window of the game still covers the whole screen, animates and whatnot, but isn't responsive to clicks and keyboard events, meanwhile the app that is active responds properly, but is covered by the fullscreen one. Does anyone know how to fix
[13:01] <FlowRiser>  this ?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> FlowRiser, alt tab never workerd for me , all it does is zoom out , but doesn't switch like I was led to believe
[13:10] <monkeyjuice> hmm works on my 12.04
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hey monkeyjuice , explain what it does on your setup
[13:16] <BluesKaj> does it switch destops or ?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> desktops
[13:16] <monkeyjuice> zooms out shows all open programs , if you hit the tab it move thru them , when you release alt it goes to the highlited program
[13:18] <BluesKaj> on the same desktop od different desktops?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> or
[13:18] <monkeyjuice> same desktop
[13:19] <monkeyjuice> only using 2 desktops total i dont switch desktop to much
[13:20] <monkeyjuice> it must be a compiz setting ?
[13:20] <BluesKaj> heh I use 6
[13:20] <monkeyjuice> dont remember
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yeah id i have them on the same desktop the tab key switches
[13:20] <BluesKaj> if
[13:21] <monkeyjuice> hmmm not sure if i move to 2nd desktop what it will do let me try that
[13:22] <monkeyjuice> ya it dosent show the other desktop i have to switch to it first
[14:07] <ScottyK> Greetings! when do you think KDE 4.10 will be available in the normal repos? Thanks!
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ScottyK, you can have it now ,by adding the backports
[14:09] <barrett> hola
[14:11] <barrett> alguien de concepcion
[14:13] <ScottyK> Is there stability problems with adding files from the backports? Or is 4.10 stable enough for daily use?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> ScottyK, depends , if you'ree a slightly adventurous home user , then install 4.10 , if you're at work , then wait for it to land in the default repos
[14:17] <BluesKaj> I'm a home user and 4.10 is working fine here
[14:29] <ScottyK> BluesKaj - thanks! Any estimate when it will arrive in the default repos? I'm fine for it on my computer, but my mom-in-law's computer I value stability!
[14:31] <BluesKaj> it's stable enough for home use ScottyK ...I haven't had a problem yet , on the job real critical stability requirements are different of course
[14:31] <ScottyK> excellent. I'll go load the backports now. Thanks!
[14:32] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:53] <BluesKaj> , time to push some snow ...BBL
[16:23] <qw> hello all
[16:23] <qw> help me please upgrade my OS
[16:24] <qw> beacouse i am use 10.04
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !10.04
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[16:34] <BluesKaj> qw^
[16:38] <BluesKaj> qw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/126833/lts-to-lts-upgrade
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ok , back to work
[16:51] <shassard> Hi folks. I'm trying to do an 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' on my kubuntu 12.10 box w/ backports ppa and it appears that an updated some kde libs package is trying to force my box to remove all my kubuntu packages. Any idea what's up with this?
[16:54] <shassard> http://pastebin.com/Na9NpJXC
[16:56] <rosco_y> does anyone know of a nice, little kde widgit that works as a caps-lock indicator?
[16:58] <rosco_y> I had a nice small one in my openSUSE installation, but now I'm tryiing ubuntu (so far, so good), and can't find the plasmoid anymore :(
[16:59] <rosco_y> "AHL BE BACK..."
[17:03] <james147_> shassard: try running "sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop"
[17:04] <shassard> james147_: kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[17:04] <shassard> it looks like dist-upgrade has broken deps in the repos right now.
[17:05] <rosco_y> Does zypper work with ubuntu?
[17:05] <rosco_y> how do I search the repositories for packages with apt?
[17:06] <james147_> shassard: probally, installing kubuntu-desktop should fix the problem if you do end up removing those packages (by accdent or not)
[17:06] <shassard> james147_: well, another 'apt-get update' seems to have updated the repos again, and apt-get seems satisfied now.
[17:06] <james147_> rosco_y: no, zypper is rpm based, kubuntu is deb based.
[17:07] <james147_> rosco_y: apt-get search <pattern>    will search the repos for pattern
[17:07] <rosco_y> james147_: ty.
[17:07] <shassard> 'apt-cache search ..'
[17:08] <james147_> shassard: ahh yeah :)
[17:08] <james147_> I forget searching uses a different program... for no real reason :p
[17:09] <rosco_y> what is GKrellM?
[17:09] <rosco_y> (I feel the urge to do a google search)
[17:10] <james147_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GKrellM ... looks like a system monitor
[17:10] <james147_> kde already has plenty of them built into it :)
[17:11] <rosco_y> y, I found some keyboard leds based on GKrellM
[17:11] <rosco_y> checking them out now....
[17:14] <rosco_y> well, I don't know how to find what I installed, maybe it was a module that worked with the system monitor.......
[17:14] <rosco_y> or something like that
[17:15] <shassard> cat /var/log/dpkg.log
[17:15] <shassard> that should show you the history of package install/upgrades
[17:22] <rosco_y> I found a caps-lock indicator widgit, and added to my panel, but it's invisible unless I click on it--is there a way to make it visible all the time?
[17:36] <james147_> rosco_y: What is the widgets name exactly?
[18:03] <rosco_y> I've installed my kubuntu 12.10 to an 80 g hd, I have an unused 750 g hd I'd like to format and mount as /home, can anyone advise me--point me in the right direction?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> rosco_y: format as required and then edit /etc/fstab ?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> ofcourse, you'd still need to copy your current /home to the formatted drive
[18:05] <rosco_y> shadeslayer: ty.  Can you recommend a fs that you think I should use?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> ext4
[18:06] <rosco_y> can I use a gui to copy my home directory, or would that miss things?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> well
[18:07] <yofel> if you copy the folder itself, i.e /home/$USER, you're fine
[18:07] <shadeslayer> I'd suggest rsync'ing it
[18:07] <rosco_y> rsync?
[18:08] <rosco_y> ty yofel, it does seem like that would do the job
[18:08] <rosco_y> so, 1) Format, 2) rsync, 3) fstab 4) reboot.  Does that seem right?
[18:09] <rosco_y> 3.5) save old fstab ?
[18:10] <rosco_y> kudos  shadeslayer, yofel,
[18:10] <yofel> 4) grub-install, 5) reboot
[18:10] <yofel> if you mean to just rsync the whole OS
[18:10] <shadeslayer> grub-install?
[18:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: why would he need grub-install?
[18:11] <yofel> I personally rsync the whole OS if I replace disks
[18:11] <yofel> that means I need to re-setup a few things by hand
[18:11] <rosco_y> yofel: n, you missed part of the conversation--I'm just adding a disk and moving my home
[18:11] <shadeslayer> well .. he's only moving /home
[18:11] <yofel> er
[18:11] <rosco_y> but ty anyhoo
[18:11] <rosco_y> :)
[18:11] <rosco_y> np
[18:11] <yofel> yeah, I missed that ^^
[18:11] <yofel> then you're fine
[18:12] <rosco_y> I believe I can get though this
[18:14] <rosco_y> er, new thought just came to mind--does it seem like it'd be a good use of the drive to use it for archives?
[18:15] <genii-around> You could always do something like bind-mount it to /home/username/Pictures    or something...
[18:16] <rosco_y> genii-around: ty, that sounds very interesting
[18:17] <rosco_y> I've never heard of bind-mount, does it sort of extend the existing mounted partition?
[18:19] <genii-around> rosco_y: Well, if you have a directory someplace, you can mount that specific directory under another directory on a different drive. So if you have for instance a disk with maybe three directories like Fred George Ellen and nothing else, (and all those directories are owned by those users) then you can for instance mount Fred to like /home/Fred/Pictures
[18:20] <rosco_y> oh, a lot link symbolic linking then
[18:20] <rosco_y> Thanks, that's a pretty cool idea!
[18:22] <rosco_y> well, I've got a lot of stuff to do here....so I'll get busy.  If history repeats itself, I'll be back with more questions.  Thanks everyone--I wouldn't have a chance without you!
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> clear
[18:53] <mandoguit> hmmm..........somthing new is happening since the last update on my Kernel: 3.8.0-6-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[18:53] <mandoguit>            Desktop: KDE 4.10.00 Distro: Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (development branch) install.    if I click on an app on my panel, the app being currently displayed will minimize to the panel and the newly clicked one will appear.   I would prefer all opened apps display on screen unless I manually minimize them.   Was wondering if this was some kind of toggle in kde's settings that was changed during the last update?   If so wher
[18:53] <mandoguit> e would I access to change the setting?   thanks.   :)
[18:53] <FloodBotK1> mandoguit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <genii-around> !raring
[18:53] <mandoguit> ahhh...ok thanks genii-around  :)
[18:55] <mandoguit> so this buglet doesn't sound like normal operation even for the stable kubuntu release (pretty much a newbie to kde interface_
[19:07] <mandoguit> lol   just figured out what was happening.   I as a general rule don't use more than one desktop.   some of the apps where on other desktops and so that was why some apps where disappearing when other apps were clicked to be displayed.    silly me............ :)
[19:29] <BluesKaj> ..BBL
[19:40] <genii-around> Well, since it's quiet I guess I'll ask a question of my own. eg: I have a wallpaper set for my cube background, and a small inner section of that wallpaper that I copied and cropped out to use for the cap of the cube. The idea is that when you are looking directly down upon the cube, it lines up exactly with the background and blends in. But because the cube settings themself have transparency involved, it stands out instead. Any way to make
[19:40] <genii-around> only the cap of the cube opaque ?
[19:44]  * genii-around goes and makes more coffee
[19:57] <shadeslayer> genii-around: not that I know of, but since it's a kwin plugin #kwin might now of some hidden way
[20:04] <calwig> Remove the CFL lamps from home, rooms, offices, immediately. Mercury poisoning is permanently damaging and does not allow the body to heal if an energy saving lamp breaks immediately. Mercury Poisoning is lethal
[20:07] <genii-around> calwig: That's perhaps interesting to know or debate, but this is a support channel.
[20:07] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Thanks, perhaps I'll ask there in a little while
[20:14] <z3r0d3gr33> hi all
[20:30] <BluesKaj> genii-around, how did manage to put wallpaper on the cube cap ?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> err did you
[20:32] <genii-around> BluesKaj: In kwinrc, you add under section [Effect-Cube]     a couple entries like: CapPath=/home/mike/Pictures/bubbles-800x800.jpg  in my case
[20:32] <calwig> genii-around, yes, and Im sorry for posting this. It is of uttmost importance to everyone in the community
[20:34] <BluesKaj> calwig, most ppl are aware of your concerns about mercury dangers , it's not new
[20:34] <BluesKaj> thanks genii-around
[21:15] <faust1002> hello guys
[21:17] <Specialist> Hi there! iI there any PPA that still has KDE 4.9.x packages for precise? I need to downgrade again from 4.10.0, which has way too many bugs for me to use on a daily basis...
[21:21] <BluesKaj> Specialist, which bugs ?
[21:22] <Specialist> BluesKaj: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314669, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311167
[21:24] <Specialist> and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313943
[21:24] <BluesKaj> Specialist, do you have pavucontrol installed , it will probly help direct your audio signals without errors
[21:25] <Specialist> BluesKaj: Sure, but that does not help with the muted streams. It is just annoying to have to unmute each morning (sometimes only a reboot will help). This worked perfectly in 4.9.5
[21:25] <BluesKaj> Specialist, are you actually experiencing the posted bugs ?
[21:25] <Specialist> BluesKaj: Yep
[21:26] <BluesKaj> odd , have you set up alsamixer ?
[21:26] <Specialist> alsamixer is installed, if you mean that by 'set up'
[21:27] <BluesKaj> no, I mean set up the ctrls etc , and make sure they are unmuted and turned up etc
[21:29] <Specialist> sure, they are. then I do a suspend/resume (S3) cycle and everything is a mess.
[21:30] <Specialist> iirc I had a similar problem earlier when some ubuntu pulseaudio scripts were interfering with what phonon was doing during suspend. but before the 4.9.5 -> 4.10.0 upgrade everything worked flawlessly
[21:30] <BluesKaj> Specialist, have you updated /upgraded and dist-upgraded since you installed 4.10\
[21:31] <genii-around> shadeslayer: #kwin is like a ghost town :(
[21:31] <Specialist> yep, but as I am writing this I noticed that there are a bunch of updated KDE packages available
[21:33] <Specialist> i'll see whether these make any difference
[21:39] <BluesKaj> genii-around, I've never rolled back a kde version . how is that accomplished ?
[21:40] <Specialist> i'd use ppa-purge to get rid of the new ppa, get an old ppa, reinstall, restore .kde from backups
[21:41] <BluesKaj> genii-around, remove kubuntu desktop , delete or comment the backports and reinstall kubuntu-desktop ?
[21:41] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Somewhat of what Specialist is saying
[21:41] <BluesKaj> i just delete the pps from sources.list.d
[21:41] <BluesKaj> ppa
[21:43] <BluesKaj> then Specialist i guess if you're not happy , then you know what to do
[21:43] <Specialist> BluesKaj: well, if I could locate a PPA that still has 4.9.5 :-/
[21:43] <BluesKaj> anyway time for other things ..gotta go
[21:44] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I used to install older versions of apps with just sudo apt-get install package=EXACT-VERSION-NUMBER-HERE    type idea, but in this case it would depend too if the previous version you want is also in that same ppa but just prior to the one you don't want, or in the standard repositories
[21:53] <faust1002> going sleep, bye
[23:07] <robtygart> I just updated in 12.04 and now I can't get any videos. No flash.
[23:08] <robtygart> Any ideas? or is there a way to revert back to last?
[23:13] <genii-around> robtygart: Is the package kubuntu-restricted-extras  installed?
[23:13] <robtygart> yes
[23:14] <robtygart> genii-around: its in, I also purged and reinstalled flashplugin-installer
[23:19] <genii-around> robtygart: What is the result of: ls -l /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[23:29] <robtygart> genii-around: http://paste.kde.org/672644/
[23:30] <genii-around> robtygart: It's showing your default flash player as gnash and not adobe there...
[23:33] <div33435> i want to install java for my browsers.  i installed  openjdk java 7 runtime and restarted chrome but it still doesnt have the plugin
[23:33] <div33435> using muon*