[00:00] he he SergioMeneses I've only just had https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad as being installed fully :) [00:01] * SergioMeneses does click [00:01] phillw, wait me for a while, dinner time here [00:13] phillw, I'm back [00:14] good, I'm just zsycning up another iso. (I'm on a slow link). [00:14] phillw, maybe you could add any reference to bazaar-explorer [00:15] SergioMeneses: I'm the guinea pig for balloons to learn this from a standing start :) If I can follow it, anyone can :D [00:16] phillw, lol [00:21] as long as no one asks me to make a new SSH key, I should be okay :P [00:25] you can do it by seahorse, it is too easy :) [00:28] SergioMeneses: I have an SSH key and also signed CoC, sort of things you only do once, and mine was a couple of years ago :) [00:32] jejejeje [00:32] balloons, around? [00:39] phillw, balloons https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/newstep2/+merge/148585 [00:40] SergioMeneses: I'm not yet upto speed on approving merges. It is on my task for this weekend now that the classroom sessions are completed. [00:41] phillw, jejeje ok ok, so I will let for balloons [00:43] SergioMeneses: smartboyhw should be along during the next few hours. [00:46] you're right phillw , if I still here I'll do it [00:47] SergioMeneses: this is simple bug fix we talked about earlier? [00:49] phillw, what bug? we talk about a lot of bugs today [00:50] SergioMeneses: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/newstep2/+merge/148585 [00:51] phillw, it is about testcases [00:51] you can read my commentary, even I add a picture [00:51] where the $HOME entry simply needed a tweak to wiork? [00:51] *work* [00:52] does it now work? [00:53] phillw, yes it is... I mean it works but display a warning message about the folder Templates [00:53] I was using ubuntu-daily-iso [00:53] and before? did it just completely fail? [00:54] what is the improvement in the fix you have proposed? [00:55] phillw, change: Type touch "$HOME/Templates/Empty Document.txt" [00:55] to Type touch "$HOME/Document.txt" [00:58] and, what difference does that make? [01:39] ping [01:40] SergioMenesesAFK, pong [01:40] :) [02:35] smartboyhw, ping [02:40] SergioMeneses: I've set it back to 'approved', alegedly LP will pick it up and merge it. [02:41] phillw, perfect! thanks [02:42] SergioMeneses: I was diverted on my travels to ask about getting VBox 4.2 into raring before the deadline goes past :) [02:43] and updating my various ISO's that I 'worry' about :) [02:46] :O [02:47] I had an issue with the server iso, not many people bother to test these ones, similar to getting the alternate ones tested :) [03:00] sorry phillw Im attending a meeting of my loco-team maybe I can help you with aternative isos [03:01] is no problem... I'm just off to bed... 0300 UTC here! [03:03] 22:03 here [07:02] Good morning [07:43] good morning [08:24] good morning [08:52] jibel: oh joy, colord-gtk checks hang again eternally [08:52] * pitti kils [08:53] pitti, I finish something on unity auto uploads and will push my patch to rabisu [08:53] jibel: no worries, just keeping you informed; I'm watching this thing like a hawk these days anyway :) [09:16] jibel: ooh - may it be that until two days ago we didn't have so many test failurse because we weren't running them? [09:16] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/JHBuild%20Gnome/job/jhbuild-amd64-clutter/72/artifact/clutter.log [09:16] e. g. that was the last known "success" of clutter [09:17] or https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/JHBuild%20Gnome/job/jhbuild-amd64-gtk--2/54/artifact/gtk+-2.log [09:18] same for nautilus [09:18] jibel: sounds related to your recent re-addition of -f ? [09:24] pitti, hm hm [09:25] pitti, so looking at the jobs that passed jhbuild didn't trigger the make check because the build was already successful [09:25] pitti, you're right it's the re-addition of -f that caused this. [10:48] jibel: ok, thanks for confirming [10:54] jibel: I informed desktop-devel@ [11:31] jibel: seems quite some crashes are due to missing XRandR in xorg (cheese, clutter) [11:31] and presumably more [11:32] jibel: I'll update my xrandr-enabled xvfb in my PPA and try that, ok? [11:32] pitti, no problem [11:33] seems easier than setting up a full Xorg. with dummy driver, as then we again need the magic to automatically determine $DISPLAY, clean up, etc. [11:46] jibel: hm, doesn't help much; they just fail further on about missing 3D === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:44] pitti, the test should just be skipped if requirements are not met then [12:44] jibel: *nod* [12:45] jibel: there are also some tests which assume a runnign session daemon [12:45] perhaps at some point we should run this under a full X.org with LLVM and system d-bus, that might help in a lot of cases [12:46] jibel: FYI, I did some quick classification of the failures: bhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1657237/ [12:46] pitti, in that case we'll need a real desktop machine not a server with a low end graphics card [12:47] jibel: i. e. there are at least 5 which stumble over network restrictions, and about two or probably 3 which need 3D, about two which need dbus, and the rest is just plain broken [12:48] jibel: really? I thought kvm emulated a good enough graphics card for llvmpipe === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:48] oh hang on, it's LXC, not kvm [12:49] right, I can move the whole thing to kvm [15:03] morning [15:18] jibel: so dvcs_mirror_dir (http://developer.gnome.org/jhbuild/unstable/config-reference.html) was what I was mentioning during our talk [15:19] jibel: but I don't think that this is actually our problem; it's the number of modules which is killing us, not really the time for an individual git pull (which most of the time doesn't pull anything anyway) === zequence_ is now known as zequence [16:27] SergioMenesesAFK, phillw ping [16:33] balloons, pong [16:33] SergioMeneses, saw your change.. wondering why you changed it [16:33] if it doesn't go in the templates folder, it won't make a template [16:34] balloons, but the Template folder doesnt exit [16:35] are you on a non-english install? [16:35] maybe it's called something.. it should exist [16:36] you won't get a new document submenu otherwise [16:36] or do you? [16:36] I don't if I don't add the file there [16:37] balloons, I tested with the daily iso... let me check again, did you approve the merge? [16:37] it was as proposed [16:41] phillw did, but left me a note about it [16:41] seems he was confused or somethng? [16:41] I got really confused by the whole thng [16:41] :-) [16:42] dont worry [17:05] I'm not sure what the best course of action is for doing things in english [17:05] not every testcase has to be that way [17:06] just the ones with english strings [17:07] balloons, we add a short note [17:07] like a recommendation [17:07] well, mean we could change the testcase to read and have it apply to whatever folder in your locale [17:07] I mean, if your on spanish, what's the string for 'template'? [17:07] you have a template folder [17:08] balloons, Template -> Plantillas [17:08] ok, so if you do $HOME/plantillas/Empty Document.txt? [17:09] but we can add a note like: we should use the English language [17:10] SergioMeneses, well, I was saying we could also simply say or provide translated strings [17:10] $HOME/Plantillas/Empty Document.txt [17:10] in general I try and avoid forcing language [17:10] balloons, kk [17:10] or we could come up with a different way to do that part [17:10] you get the point [17:10] :-) [17:12] sure... I think my solution is better, because the file will be in our home directly [17:34] balloons, I have to go out but you can let me a message by SergioMenesesAFK [17:34] SergioMeneses, yep [17:34] see you later guys! [17:34] dl'ing the daily [17:34] it's taking forever to zsync oddly [17:34] balloons, jajajaja [18:43] cprofitt, ping [18:58] SergioMeneses, aha [18:59] XDG_TEMPLATE_DIR variable [18:59] that's what the test should use [19:00] balloons, \o [19:00] I was trying to find which one it was for a bit [19:01] sounds pretty well... so how is the final direction? [19:03] well [19:06] balloons: thanks for the bug and reply to email [19:06] yw [19:06] SergioMeneses, not sure.. doesn't look like it's actually set sadly [19:07] cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs [19:07] o0 [19:08] balloons, nice! [19:08] but what's it say for you? [19:09] balloons, in Spanish language? [19:09] your template dir is different I'd guess [19:09] XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/Plantillas" [19:09] yep [19:09] i think it would be $HOME/Templates for you [19:10] right? [19:10] is the variable still called ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs [19:10] sorry [19:10] called XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR? [19:10] t should be [19:10] yes! it is the same: same@quantal:~$ cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs [19:11] it is from my laptop [19:11] yep.. said thing is, it's not an env variable seemingly, like I thought [19:11] it's not set [19:12] that said, we could make a crazy command line that would parse it out automatically [19:12] but that's hacky [19:12] I'm missing something [19:17] balloons, is there not a global reference to that directory? and why we have to create the file into that directory [19:17] we have to create a file in there because otherwise the template doesn't exist [19:17] it used to exist by default [19:17] anyways, we'll just be hacky I guess [19:18] someone else has to know the slck way to do this [19:22] balloons, let me see what I can do to fix it [19:29] i suck today [19:29] cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs | grep XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR |sed -n '/XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="/,/"/p' [19:35] cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs | grep XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR |sed 's/XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=\"$.*$\"/\1/' [19:37] second works [20:31] balloons, Hi [20:51] hello [20:51] how are you Letozaf_ ? [20:51] balloons, fine and you ? [20:51] good good [20:52] balloons, for bug 1124523 it happened again only once the first time I booted my PC and tried the amd64 ISO [20:52] bug 1124523 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity goes straight to a live session, ubuntu 13.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124523 [20:52] balloons, couldn't reproduce it [20:52] balloons, it's a very strange bug [20:53] balloons, I tried rebooting my PC, closing and re-opening Virtualbox but I cannot [20:53] balloons, find out what triggers it [20:53] balloons, but it happened twice [20:53] balloons, yesterday and today [20:55] Letozaf_: ubiquity on 13.04? I can try to replicate with KVM / virt-manager [20:55] I'm just re-syncing my isos [20:56] phillw, ok thanks, but its a weird bug :D [20:56] I'll pull up the desktop one next [20:57] phillw, the strange thing is that both yesterday and today the bug occurred the first time I tried the ISO on Virtualbox as was unable to reproduce it afterwards [20:58] Letozaf_: I have VBox (4.2) and virt-manager on my system. I'll use the KVM one 1st as I'm more familiar with it. [20:58] phillw, ok [20:58] I'll be usinng the lubuntu desktop system, as that is what I test. Ubiquity is the same across all. [21:00] phillw, fine [21:00] * xnox couldn't reproduce with ubuntu cd today [21:01] phillw: note that while ubiquity is the same the desktop session & window manager and spawned processes are different on lubuntu [21:01] oh rght [21:01] my iso is finally synced [21:01] i have to test this [21:02] xnox, :( I cannot understand what triggers this bug I've tried quite everything until now, If you guys have any ideas I'm ready to try them [21:02] i usually manually boot it [21:02] ok, yes I got the load screen [21:03] balloons, yes when it happened to me I pressed F12 and selected "C" to make the VM start from the ISO [21:04] ok look [21:04] that time it went straght in [21:04] lol [21:05] Letozaf_: is that choosing install from the 1st boot? [21:05] Letozaf_, every time it happens, does the ubiquity-dm crash appear too [21:05] as opposed to 'try' and then install [21:06] yea [21:06] so if I reset the vm, it will load without the "install" or "try" screen each time [21:07] phillw, it happens in lubuntu as well [21:07] Letozaf_: balloons I got the standard boot screen asking if I wanted to try or install. [21:07] and the -dm crash appears [21:07] i get that screen on first boot [21:07] Noskcaj: ^^ [21:08] if I then reset the machine it won't appear [21:08] on any subsequent reboot [21:09] Let me try with VBox 4.2 and see what it does. KVM / virt-manager does load, but if I choose 'install' it launches it in live (try) mode. Is this the issue that you see? [21:09] yep.. tried t several times [21:09] phillw, Noskcaj balloons yes I get the ubiquity-dm crash every time [21:09] let's try kvm or something now [21:10] no crash here [21:10] Letozaf_, is it a duplicate then, our are they just related? [21:10] balloons: I'm on KVM, when I select 'install' I actually get the live version launched. [21:10] lol [21:10] will testdrve not launch lvm? [21:11] that is with a completely new machine (so new, that the disk area I just created is called Letozaf) [21:11] balloons, it launches kvm, Vbox or parralells [21:11] phillw, original [21:11] phillw, :D [21:12] Letozaf_: I already have a l-raring VM, so needed a new name :) [21:12] phillw, lol [21:13] hmm [21:13] qemu hates me I guess [21:13] Noskcaj, lvm=kvm.. typing=!balloons [21:14] right, so where are we up to? I select 'install' and get the live boot [21:15] phillw, when it happened to me the welcome window where you are asked to install or try Ubuntu was skipped and I booted directly into live [21:15] Letozaf_: I do get the option, but if I choose install, I get the live version with kvm [21:15] phillw, I will try again [21:16] ohh.. more fine stuff [21:20] phillw, with Ubuntu Desktop amd64 ISO on a new VM it just booted fine this time and selecting "Install Ubuntu" took me to the "preparing to install Ubuntu" window :( [21:22] Letozaf_: balloons I get the option to choose install or try on the boot screen with VBox 4.2, but it boots into live mode. [21:23] phillw, balloons Noskcaj it happened !!!! [21:23] phillw, hit host+r [21:23] even if I select 'try' [21:23] * balloons digs out usb key [21:23] let's try this on a real box [21:23] see what fun can be had [21:23] guys it happened again this is the third time [21:24] but don't ask me what triggered it I booted the VM like I did another 10 times now [21:24] and I've got the crash too [21:25] balloons, maybe I can attach some log files to the bug report [21:26] I do not see a crash, just that it ignores my choosing 'install' and goes instead into 'try'. [21:26] now I know why I prefer alternate :D [21:26] * balloons doesn't get a crash [21:26] :-( [21:26] phillw, I got /usr/bin/ubiquity-dm [21:28] Letozaf_, already a bug [21:29] ok, so it's copying to the usb.. I can't find the fast drive :-( === Noskcaj is now known as Noskcaj_AFK [21:30] balloons, phillw can this help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1659776/ [21:31] I copied the /var/crash file and pasted it in pastebin [21:34] Letozaf_: I've asked on -release to see if there is ubiquity person about. [21:34] phillw, did you see the pastebin ? [21:34] xnox is probably out for the week.. I think he mentioned he couldn't make it happen.. aka reproduce [21:34] we should carry it as far a possible before bugging him [21:34] *ubiquity*, [21:34] try and get it down to a science on reproducing.. if we can [21:35] wow [21:35] balloons, today I rebooted the VM like 10 before it occured again and I still do not understan what triggered it [21:35] balloons: I do not see it in KVM or VBox 4.2 [21:35] this drive is SO slow.. it's STILL copyng [21:35] 8 mins and counting [21:35] I can keep trying with them until I get a crash [21:37] balloons, the pastebin link I think there is something in there that can help [21:37] balloons, could you read it ? [21:37] I saw the link [21:38] that happened on load? [21:38] balloons, yes [21:38] can you file a ubuntu-bug after the crash? [21:38] balloons, I will copy it again from the VM to my PC and file a bug [21:39] I think Noskcaj_AFK filed one? not sure.. we can dupe it if so. but yea, getting the crash in there would be good [21:39] 12 mins and counting copying this image [21:40] I think I'm going to just buy a new flash drive.. sad I lose things :-) === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:42] balloons, I've got a little problem the If I click on the crash file to report a bug I do not have permissions [21:42] balloons, as I am ubuntu user [21:45] balloons, yesss got it I-m reporting a bug [21:45] balloons: Letozaf_ : (21:41:57) phillw: slangasek: we're trying to get it able to be reproducable, but there is a crash report. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1659776/ Nicholas is trying it on real machine, as it is only seen intermitantly on VM's. [21:45] (21:43:16) slangasek: phillw: where is the crash report? [21:45] (21:43:38) phillw: slangasek: on that link? [21:45] (21:43:40) slangasek: rather: why is this crash report in a pastebin, rather than submitted to errors.ubuntu.com / launchpad? [21:45] (21:44:28) phillw: slangasek: we're still trying to get a reproducable crash, as a bug that happens something like 1 in 10, is going to be really hard on the devs. [21:45] (21:44:43) slangasek: phillw: having this in a pastebin instead of in launchpad is worse [21:45] (21:45:04) slangasek: step 1) submit the crash report, step 2) figure out how to reproduce it :) [21:46] get the bug filed. [21:46] phillw, I'm reporting the bug now [21:48] almost 20 mins.. it's still copying [21:48] rofl [21:48] phillw, the bug is 1126671 [21:49] bug 1126671 [21:49] Error: Launchpad bug 1126671 could not be found [21:49] ^^ ? [21:49] ?? [21:49] bug 1126671 [21:49] balloons, it's a private bug # 1126671 [21:49] Letozaf_, ahh [21:50] you can make unprivate yourself if you wish [21:50] balloons, :-P [21:50] assuming you don't care about user/pass [21:50] and other data [21:50] I assumenot [21:50] balloons, of course not :D [21:51] balloons, now its public [21:51] bug # 1126671 [21:51] bug 1126671 [21:51] bug 1123798 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1126671 ubiquity-dm crashed with dbus.exceptions.DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit timed out" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1123798 [21:51] ?? [21:51] hey hey [21:52] ah-hah [21:52] that's the bug report [21:52] balloons, it's a duplicate [21:52] so Noskcaj_AFK didn't file.. no wonder I couldn't find [21:53] I've put affects me to bug 1123798 as I also see it. [21:53] bug 1123798 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm crashed with dbus.exceptions.DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit timed out" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1123798 [21:54] not sure why I was not notified, I am supposed to get all bugs for lubuntu. [21:55] balloons, can I turn the VM off or do you think you need some more info from it [21:55] ? [21:55] Letozaf_: are you using VBox or KVM? [21:56] phillw, Virtualbox [21:56] just copy out /var/log and /var/crash [21:56] Letozaf_: balloons : (21:55:23) phillw: not sure why I didn't get that one as it lubuntu named. [21:56] (21:55:44) slangasek: phillw: yep - one of the advantages of getting the crash report filed is that the dupe checker gets a crack at it ;) [21:56] (21:56:12) phillw: slangasek: thanks boss :) [21:56] but I think your ok Letozaf_ [21:57] safe to just shut it off [21:57] I guess steve is re-telling us to 'file the bug!!!!' [21:57] give on this drive [21:57] 30 mins and still copying [21:57] balloons, ok so I will just shut it off [21:59] ok guys going to bed, it's late here :D thanks for the fun :D [21:59] I'll re-try with kvm an see if i can catch a crash report. [21:59] Letozaf_: quiet dreams, take care. [21:59] night Letozaf_ ! [22:00] phillw, balloons thanks 'night [22:00] 811597824 bytes (812 MB) copied, 1830.05 s, 443 kB/s [22:00] 30.5 mins [22:00] :-p [22:00] pretty sure it's a usb 1.1 drive :-) [22:05] balloons: slangasek is also going to try to reproduce using ubuntu, the 1st thought was that it was just lubuntu, but Noskcaj_AFK says it also affects ubuntu. [22:07] i'm using ubuntu.. it's going to be SLOW booting too [22:07] I shoulda just burned a cd [22:10] I'll start a new kvm on my system with lubuntu and then stop it. I can look to see if there is anything in /var. [22:11] k, booted on real kite to the screne [22:11] no crash [22:11] click try or install? [22:11] i will click try, but it still takes me to try. [22:11] ? [22:12] so, that is being ignored. [22:20] phillw: so, trying to boot the lubuntu daily, I never get to an X screen at all [22:21] phillw: and I do see noise in logs about org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit; it seems that dbus is trying to activate consolekit and can't, because there's already an instance running [22:24] slangasek: hmm, I do see a pause when selecting 'install' but it does drop me into 'try'. I'm trying to see if I can get any logs. I can only use KVM on my dedi server so that I can pull in the ubuntu-dekstop image... it would take several hours for me to try here as the link is slow. [22:25] * balloons is booting again [22:25] shutdown signal from the VM is not working. [22:27] hmm, whatever problem I'm having with X is a VM video problem [22:29] i tried several times [22:29] everything works for me [22:33] I just switched from cirrus to vga video, now I get X with the 'System program problem detected' prompt [22:34] however, console isn't working and I see nothing on the desktop that lets me launch a terminal [22:36] slangasek: once I go into the live session, it is asking me the usual questions of an install. Albeit slowly as i only allocated it 512Mb RAM. [22:42] slangasek: with kvm in 12.10, it is a known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1080674 [22:42] Launchpad bug 1080674 in cairo "[QEMU] Corrupted desktop screen for raring desktop installation in QEMU guest (Cirrus graphics). Affects KVM but not VBox." [Medium,Confirmed] [22:43] I do shrug as to when it will get fixed? [22:45] balloons, I'm still working with the line code :S [22:47] :-) [22:51] howdy ssbob [22:56] hey [22:56] anyone know of a reason why edubuntu won't allow me to login after install. Error on the screen but flashes so fast I can't see it. [22:58] ssbob: I do not, but /j #edubuntu [22:58] they will be able to answer questions. [22:58] ^^ [22:58] alright I will give it a shot [22:59] trying to test 13.04 but can't get back in after the install ... thanks I will let you know [22:59] ssbob: I've also joined that channel, so will listen to what they say. [23:00] ok cool [23:01] awesome [23:02] the edubuntu installer asks a few more questions than the test case indicates ... is that something that needs a bug? questions were straight forward but not mentioned. [23:02] I assumed it is ok and did not file a bug, but wanted to ask (being the testing noob) [23:05] ssbob: please file a bug. [23:06] ah, I see one of the guys on edubuntu is chatting with you now :) [23:07] interestingly enough when I fired up the vbox session for edubuntu it defaulted to gnome fallback and that was the one that was kicking me back to the login screen. [23:08] when I selected ubuntu then it worked [23:08] ssbob: the guy who answered you is very knowlegeable :) [23:09] hmm so of the 3 options (GNOME Fallback, GNOME Fallback (No effects), and Ubuntu), the last 2 works fine but the first does not. [23:09] ssbob: I'd still suggest filing a bug with that information, so that others will be aware of it. [23:10] yeah phillw, on it. [23:10] post the bug number up on #edubuntu so that the guys can track it. [23:11] roger that [23:13] balloons, what is the best way to find the correct location for filing bugs against edubuntu. There was not a link to it on the testcase page. I am sure there is a nifty trick for it :) [23:14] ssbob: it is after install but before you choose the system to use? [23:15] after install, yes [23:15] would that be edubuntu-meta on launchpad? [23:17] ssbob: have a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview/Install_Bugs That gives a good guide [23:18] ssbob: I think it would be xorg if the other Desktop systems work okay. [23:19] based on the page you sent, I would agree. [23:19] ssbob: I'm just asking :) [23:20] oh I thought it was a statement, yes. The installer finished fine, the os boots, seems to me to be related to xorg. [23:21] well, the guy who replied is very experienced. When in doubt... ASK :D [23:22] phillw, ssbob balloons Does this command work on your system? [23:22] touch `cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs | grep XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR |sed 's/XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=\"$.*$\"/\1/'`/Document.txt [23:23] touch: cannot touch ‘$HOME/Templates/Document.txt’: No such file or directory [23:23] I don't have a templates directory under $HOME [23:24]