[18:50] <tjaalton> pushed xserver rc2 to staging
[19:09] <mlankhorst> yay
[19:11] <tjaalton> ftbfs :)
[19:11] <tjaalton> built locally, new mesa messed things up I guess
[19:13] <tjaalton> or a dependency missing
[19:13] <tjaalton> Package 'xcb-dri2', required by 'gl', not found
[19:13] <tjaalton> so maybe I'll update mesa too, meh
[20:21] <Azelphur> Got a friend who's trying to run TF2 on xubuntu with a 7950,  on fglrx-updates it won't start at all, on the latest drivers (--buildpkg quantal) it works, but gets a poor frame rate, any ideas?
[20:22] <tjaalton> not without some sort of a log
[20:22] <bjsnider> talk to amd
[20:26] <Azelphur> tjaalton: what log would you be after?
[20:27] <Azelphur> and where exactly would we talk to AMD?
[20:27] <tjaalton> xorg log?
[20:27] <tjaalton> guess it's not installed right
[20:27] <tjaalton> "won't start at all" doesn't say anything
[20:29] <Azelphur> tjaalton: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/688 we're pretty sure it's this one
[20:30] <Azelphur> we get the exact same opengl messages, etc.
[20:30] <Azelphur> at least, we did on fglrx-updates, on the latest AMD drivers it starts, but with bad performance
[20:31] <Azelphur> we can get xorg logs though, downgrade to fglrx-updates and replicate the issue.
[20:41] <Azelphur> tjaalton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1659634 here is the xorg.log for our current setup (drivers from the amd website with --buildpkg)
[21:31] <bjsnider> i don't see any problem there. what about glxinfo?
[21:35] <tjaalton> Azelphur: ok, no idea then
[21:40] <Azelphur> bjsnider: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1659807/
[21:40] <bjsnider> yeah, no problems there
[21:41] <bjsnider> it's almost certainly nothing you're doing that's causing the frame rate problem
[21:41] <Azelphur> fun
[21:41] <Azelphur> on Windows he gets like 100-200 FPS on all max settings
[21:42] <Azelphur> while on Ubuntu he gets 15-100 on low
[21:42] <Azelphur> so something is up, maybe a post on the AMD forums would be appropriate
[21:42] <Azelphur> could try edgers just for the hell of it
[21:43] <tjaalton> it can only break things
[21:43] <Azelphur> really? I've had loads of issues get un-broken by switching to edgers xD
[21:43] <Azelphur> edgers fixes things sometimes :)
[21:44] <tjaalton> won't help with the blob
[21:44] <Azelphur> try, but can't it be some sort of X issue causing this?
[21:44] <tjaalton> no
[21:44]  * Azelphur shrugs