[00:32] hello [00:32] hey [00:32] im doing a full install right now [00:32] how are the amd drivers? [00:32] any good? [00:33] I dont have any AMD hardware myself [00:38] Can Xubuntu be installed from a flash drive? I am installing on my HPmini which has no DVD drive. [00:38] xubuntu390: yes [00:39] you can create bootable flash drive with dd or unetbootin [00:39] Yay! Have the file downloaded. Gonna give it a shot. [00:40] but if you use dd be careful, its called "destroyer of disks" for a reason :D [00:40] *Disk destroyer. [00:41] Ubuntu also has that one tool of their own too. [00:42] Is there a step by step for this? [00:44] !usb | This may cut it [00:44] This may cut it: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [00:45] Cool. I just found that. I'm a real newb on this. [00:52] So, I need to download & install the Linux Live USB Creator to my computer and then that sets up my "stick"? [00:52] If you are on Windows, pretty much. [00:53] I am on Windows. Really appreciate the help. Need to go back and register "properly". === Binaryan is now known as VividReality [01:13] On step 3 Persistence mode, I assume I want that slider set to 4090MB since I dont want to boot from the USB stick? [01:15] xubuntu390: You're just installing, right? Persistence is just to save files on the flash when you boot off the flash. [01:16] Yes. I am just installing. Using Linux Live USB creator so I can install on my HPmini [01:21] Then you wouldn't need it. [01:22] Thanks Unit 193. Moving forward. [01:22] Ligten bolt "clicked" :()! [02:07] Hi! Small catastrophe here, wondering if anybody can tell me what I/Ubuntu did to my HDD setup. [02:07] I installed Xubuntu 12.10; it gave me the option to dual-boot with Windows 7. I was running windows 8, but assumed it just treated it like 7. After installing I found that it had actually set up dual boot with a retired windows 7 drive that happened to be connected. My Windows 8 drive is now unreadable in the RAW format. Is there an easy way back? [02:14] To clarify - Xubuntu installed itself on the Windows 8 drive - I can only see the Xubuntu files from within Xubuntu, and I can only see a RAW partition from within windows [02:44] Ergh - looks like it reformatted the entire drive as one ext partition. Serves me right for not setting up my install manually. [03:03] Why is the messaging indicator missing in Xubuntu 12.10? [03:04] Because it was GTK3 while the panel is GTK2. [03:04] Unit193: Oh. Is there any other alternatives? [03:05] Not that I know of. [03:06] Unit193: That sucks. :( I really want a indicator for Xchat and Thunderbird. [03:06] You could just install the packages from precise and set a hold on them, but this may cause breakage. [03:07] Hund: Try Mail Watcher (add item to panel)for thunderbird [03:10] With that, you don't need to have thunderbird open, all the time...and can set it to open thunderbird when you want. [03:12] And I thought xchat add an item to the notification area when open. [03:17] Is it still possible to update to a new versions to Xubuntu from Karmic? My update can't find the repositories. [03:19] !eol [03:19] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [03:20] Thanks, I'll have a look! [03:54] mmmm [04:28] Hey guys I am trying to add a launcher in my panel for a wine program. It doesn't work to drag the .exe there, and I can't find it in the list of applications to start [04:29] I think you would hit the button that looks like a page with a plus, for "add empty item" and then you can run a direct command [04:30] so you would add the "launcher" item, then go to the properties of that [04:32] right [04:32] I guess I don't know what command to enter [04:32] just the path of the exe? [04:33] I think? try typing in the path in a command line and see if that launches it [04:33] * Cheri703 is not the *most* technical person, but can hold her own or play with stuff until she figures it out [04:33] Normally it is wine /path/to/file.exe [04:33] Or sometimes you need the wineprefix as well. [04:33] Unit193 with the save ;) [04:33] i'll try that [04:34] wine start /unix /path/to/file.exe is like what you'd see in themenu. [04:35] Nice that works, thanks guys [04:36] I am VERY new to linux but liking it so far [05:04] http://pastebin.com/DBpFfjDA === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [09:12] xubuntu rules [09:14] i'm so alone [09:15] not that it matters at the moment but #xubuntu-offtopic [09:44] hello everybody, for some reason my display settings witched from 16:9 to 4:3. where can i change those settings? [09:46] did you install new drivers? remove them if so. have you tried restarting? [09:47] no, i just launched a game which change the settings ?_? and now can t seem to change it back [09:47] try ARandR (Advanced Resize and Rotate (should be in Launcher menu -> settings or in the settings manager) [09:48] definately try restarting if you havent [09:54] ChesterX: try shift+alt+prtsc+k [09:57] Running 12.04 LTS Xubuntu alternate installation; it fails consistently at the "select and install software" stage. Can I safely skip it? [09:58] It seems pretty vital, especially considering it lets me choose to install updates automatically or decline to do so. [09:59] that can be configured later but to answer your question i dont know. when i tried the alt CD the image was too big to actually fit on a disk [10:00] I used a live USB [10:01] Hyperiant: what error message dose it give? [10:02] "Installation step failed / An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: 'Select and install software'" [10:03] Well, THATS helpful. [10:03] I wish it was more detailed [10:03] did you run a intergity check on the Disk? [10:04] I did not, but I can't imagine that it would go well; I installed it to a flash drive instead of a disc [10:04] i was having siliar issues today. disk passed integrity check. redownloaded and used a diff USB, problem solved [10:05] Hyperiant: It just compares checksums, the media doesn't matter. [10:05] It fails after "running tasksel" [10:05] hm [10:07] Try using a dvd? [10:08] I'd be more helpful, but there's no real information to narrow this down. [10:09] I think I have a CD that'll fit it [10:09] 12.04 is 667MB and I have 700MB discs [10:10] MB or MiB? [10:10] Not sure [10:10] hmm [10:11] The discs are marked "700MB/80minutes" [10:11] well the disks will be 700*10^6 Bytes [10:11] the ISO is... [10:12] 729,067,520 Bytes [10:12] ? [10:12] thats not good [10:13] Mine's 710,193,152 bytes [10:13] Or 677MB [10:13] probably a different version [10:13] xubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-i386.iso [10:13] Anyway, got any blank DVDs? [10:14] i368? [10:14] whatever [10:14] That's what all of the 32-bit releases are [10:14] yeah, but there is a trend of people putting 32bit OS's on 64bit computers [10:14] 386 [10:16] anyway, I don't think that image will fit on a CD, if USB flash drives don't work, next to try is a DVD [10:18] hrm [10:18] Well, regardless, it seems to have burned well [10:19] huh [10:21] It appears (wikipedia) I was wrong: [10:21] Capacity Typically up to 700 MiB [10:21] how is the integrity test going? [10:21] they are higher for overburn protection usually but its not reported [10:23] I'm testing the USB integrity right now [10:23] Okay. [10:23] Apparently one of the ATI video drivers in ./pool/ just failed the integrity test [10:25] On the Flash drive? [10:27] Yeah [10:28] redownload and start over. [10:28] uhh [10:28] your torrent app should have a data integrity check option [10:29] vzion: good point. Hyperiant: I suspect the problem might be the flash drive, but lets see. [10:32] hola [10:32] alguien haba español [10:32] The CD passed integrity, I'll try installing from that [10:32] '? [10:33] Hyperiant: It'll be slower, but hopefully it will work. [10:33] eh, poquito, pero, que necessitar? [10:33] Hyperiant: How is the torrent integrity check going? [10:34] SOLO saludar a la comunidad y gracias por estar ahy. Un saludo para todos desde españa [10:34] #Ubuntu-es [10:34] I didn't scan the torrent but the burned CD passed integrity so I'm assuming the torrent isn't at fault [10:34] Yeah, Ok. I'd bin that flash drive then. [10:35] Odds are, there is something wrong with it. [10:35] That's possible [10:47] hello [10:48] Hi [10:48] can someone told me how to edit next/prev tab in xfce-terminal? it is set to ctrl-pgup/down but my laptop lacks them ;D [10:49] hrw: right-click, preferences, shortcuts [10:49] hrw: on the terminal window, that is [10:49] TheSheep: no such here - xfce4-terminal 0.6.1 [10:50] hrw: it is there [10:50] edit>preferences>shortcuts [10:50] I have General, Appearance, Colors, Compatibility, Advanced [10:51] somehow ur missing a tab [10:51] hrw: what version of xubuntu is that? [10:51] TheSheep: 13.04 [10:51] I don't have Compatibility [10:51] Ah [10:51] !ubutnu+1 [10:51] so -devel? [10:51] hrw: no, more like #ubuntu+1, I just can't find the right message [10:52] !raring [10:52] Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [10:52] here :) [10:55] ok, changed [10:56] someone know how to remove key accelerator in gtk menu? [10:59] "you can clear an accelerator from a menu item by hovering over it and hitting the delete key" - too bad that I lack that key as well ;D [11:03] hrw: What about some kind of onscreen keyboard? [11:04] Deepfriedice: setting to some crazy emacs style combinations works as well [11:28] Successful install! Now how do I update the OS to the latest version? [11:28] Uh, what's wrong? [11:29] Nothing's wrong; is it a bad thing to upgrade? [11:29] Ah, no. Sorry my bad. [11:30] How much experience do you have with Linux? [11:30] I can use the terminal and Google stuff [11:30] okay. [11:31] You're probably going to want to use Synaptic for updates. [11:31] menu > System > Synaptic Package Manager [11:34] How do I use Synaptic to install latest Xubuntu? [11:36] Um may I ask why you installed 12.04 if you want 12.10? [11:39] Because Xubuntu 12.10 doesn't have an alternate installation iso [11:39] I tried normal installation but it always hanged for hours unending so I had to use alternate [11:40] Okay, I've never done a system upgrade. This should be fun [11:42] http://xubuntu.org/upgrading/ [11:43] Okay so we actually want the update manager [11:43] menu > System > Update Manager [11:43] Then hit "Check" to update the package list [11:45] Says I don't need any additional updates [11:46] good [11:47] Does it also say a new release is available? [11:48] No, but I found a setting under Settings -> Updates within Update Manager that asks whether I want to search for LTS updates or just any update [11:49] Yup, now it sees the new release. [11:49] Great [11:50] Make sure there are no updates available, Hit upgrade, then hope for the best. [11:54] Interesting. ...I've never done a distro upgrade, either. [12:03] Deepfriedice: Thanks for all of the help (and for being on; you would not believe how empty #xubuntu is at this hour) [12:05] Hyperiant: No problem. I'm considering spending more time on here, especially if #Xubuntu is short on help. [12:05] It really is. I've had a lot of run-ins with empty chat here, and Ubuntu chat is less than friendly to outsiders. [12:06] Mostly I get "we don't support that distro, check the other channel" or "I can't help you" [12:06] Huh, you'd think they would be less willing to drive people off. [12:07] I guess it depends on people's moods. Each tech is a different person. [12:08] I was actually recommended Xubuntu (along with Lubuntu, which I dropped because Xubuntu was prettier, lighter, and still fits on a CD) [12:08] ...from that channel, I mean. But anyway, I'm getting a bit off-topic. This is a support channel. [12:09] Xubuntu rocks [12:10] Aparently there is a off-topic channel #xubuntu-offtopic [12:10] My only problem (and this is an Ubuntu error, not Xubuntu-specific) is that for my brand of laptop, you need to add options snd-hda-codec-realtek index=-2 to the alsa-base.conf in order for sound to function properly [12:11] It's not much of a hassle, but it's not apparent, either. Took me a good few hours of Googling to find that command. [12:12] hello, Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS was relaeased. When will be ready Xubuntu 12.04.2? and there will be Kernel 3.5.0-23.35? [12:13] Xubuntu 12.04.2 LTS already has a release [12:13] I literally just installed it, haha [12:14] http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ Under "Latest Stable Release" [12:15] Hyperiant: report bug to kernel bugzilla about that kernel argument [12:15] Hyperiant: so next versions will get quirk for it so users will not have to set it again [12:15] ok, thx :D there isn't changes at official site, only here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Xubuntu-12-04-2-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-Supports-UEFI-Secure-Boot-329741.shtml [12:17] hrw: Ubuntu has a bugzilla? I don't know where it is. [12:18] Hyperiant: better in kernel bugilla not ubuntu bugtracker [12:18] hrw: Also, what about Launchpad? [12:18] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ [12:18] Hyperiant: ou can ask on #ubuntu-kernel which way they prefer [12:19] Ah, k; I need to go sleep but I'll try to get that done [12:20] Hyperiant: thanks === Doc_Vex is now known as Doctor_Vex [15:12] is there a reason why no Flash plays in in FF? the element is just missing despite having installed the Flash plugin and having it listed as active plugin in FF [15:13] Doctor_Vex, have you installed the xubuntu-restricted extras? [15:14] how can i check that? [15:14] do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted extras, or check for the restricted-extras on the ubuntu software center [15:15] or just install "flashplugin-installer" instead of all that restricted-extras crap [15:17] ill try the installer [15:18] "is already newest version" [15:18] but all the restricted extras make everything media related work [15:18] ill try the package next [15:20] Doctor_Vex, can you open this page please? https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [15:20] its installing [15:21] yeah but your flash its already installed [15:21] wait, yo did not have it installed yet? how did you install the flash plugin in the first place? [15:21] try that page, particularly this box https://www.adobe.com/swf/software/flash/about/flashAbout_info_small.swf [15:24] i know that page. the flash item does not show up [15:25] and i think i installed the flash plugin via the Software Center when i was browsing for useful stuff [15:27] if its installed it should just work [15:27] it could also be a weird hardware issue, as i cant find drivers for the ATI Mobility Radeon [15:27] which brings me back to my problem from yesterday [15:28] as this is a older Dell Laptop [15:28] mmmm ati... bad luck [15:28] tried chromium? [15:28] i tried nothing so far as no one had any idea when i asked [15:28] and i could not find helpful info on the net [15:29] well chromium, as chrome, uses other flash engine different from the rest of linux systems [15:29] try chromium [15:29] so no idea on the drivers? [15:29] if everything fails you can use other engines to emulate flash, like gnash or even the vlc plugin [15:30] also well. i dont want to put the burden of a emulated flash on this PIII 1 GHz ;v [15:30] the vlc plugin works [15:31] at least for me, it worked on a PII back in the days, and by that i mean a few months ago [15:32] VLC plugin for what? [15:34] firefox [15:35] i installed the player but not the plugin [15:36] mmmhm its not default because it conflicts with the standard flash player [15:36] you want one, or the other, not both [15:42] does that mean i have to uninstall the adobe one or can i disable it in FF? [15:43] disabling it should suffice [15:46] i cant find it [15:46] how can i install it [15:48] sudo apt-get install browser-plugin-vlc [16:02] so thank you so far. unfortunately it doesnt work [16:03] i even started FF with both active [16:03] you have some other problem then [16:05] its weird [16:06] but also not vital. the people who get it wont care much about flash anyway [16:11] hahahah wth [16:11] what [16:11] suddenly on the ATI support site a embedded youtube video shows up [16:11] and works [16:12] hahahaha [16:12] XD [16:12] that is somehow ironic [16:13] i would call it buggy, but ironic works [16:58] how can i reduce the color depth to 24 bit? [17:00] also how can i best test the 3D acceleration [17:00] there is probably a non ATI driver doing a good work [17:00] !ati [17:00] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [17:01] i usually end up with the proprietary drivers... [17:01] well its much more complicated with this old laptop [17:02] not really.. either the hardware is supported well, or not [17:02] i usually just try the different drivers.. even the vesa one [17:02] !info glxgears [17:02] Package glxgears does not exist in quantal [17:02] mmm [17:02] i usually go with whatever suits my needs [17:02] i found this here [17:02] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935726 [17:03] !info mesa-utils [17:03] mesa-utils (source: mesa-demos): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 26 kB, installed size 132 kB [17:03] ^ that helps you test 3d [17:04] yeah, that contains glxgears, correct GridCube ? [17:04] yes [17:04] Doctor_Vex: you can install mesa-utils and run glxgears and test 3d [17:04] installing [17:10] and how do i run it? [17:10] Doctor_Vex: i would open a terminal and type "glxgears" and press "enter" [17:10] I installed the window manager "awesome", now I am not getting the option of changing the window manager, from settings editor in Windows Manager its not there. [17:11] c2tarun: those are xfce window manager tweaks likely [17:11] c2tarun: what are you trying to end up with? [17:11] ok thanks that works. 24 FPS [17:11] and that means hardware 3D woks on this machine? [17:12] holstein: actually awesome window manager can help me in tiling windows. [17:12] holstein: so I was trying to switch from XFCE WM to Awesome WM. [17:12] c2tarun: you should be able to launch awesome instead of xfce from login screen [17:12] laite: will that launch awesome on XFCE or just awesome? [17:12] yeah.. i would do that at login c2tarun [17:13] ok, let me try [17:13] c2tarun: try it and see if it doesn what you want/need [17:13] Doctor_Vex, if you see the gears, then you are seeing 3D [17:13] ok. that is a good thing [17:14] however, does that mean it is hardware 3D or emulated CPU 3D? [17:15] its should have told you what is using on the glxgears dump [17:25] holstein: on starting awesome from login screen, its starting kind of awesome desktop :( which is very scary [17:25] I just wan't its window manager [17:27] c2tarun: scary? [17:27] holstein: yeah, you should check its desktop wallpaper, like some corpse peeping through some wooden box [17:28] c2tarun: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7405 [17:28] i think you are assumin you need/want awesome.. if all you want is tiling windows in xfce you might want to try something native [17:28] http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=78605 [17:29] http://askubuntu.com/questions/210231/xubuntu-12-10-window-tiling-shortcuts [17:30] hello Im wondering where I find settings to connect to a projector [17:31] timmma: theres a really nice little program called arandr [17:31] okay. [17:31] timmma: i'll be like connecting another monitor [17:31] okay thanks :) [17:33] c2tarun, doesnt awesome has a --replace option? [17:33] GridCube: don't know, but I think I found a solution: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_XFCE its not awesome but its xmonad a similar WM [17:36] also anyone know a good video player other then VLC [17:36] mplayer [17:36] mplayer trhough smplayer is the best [17:37] timmma: "good" is a matter of opinion.. what are you looking for that VLC is not doing? [17:37] just somthing that will play videos fast and easy [17:37] timmma, do you have an nvidia gpu? [17:38] nope, its an intel intagrated video card [17:38] GridCube: [17:39] timmma: i find VLC both fast and easy.. what is it not doing? [17:39] yep, mplayer, using any of its front ends, should be fast [17:39] sometimes vlc takes too much time to start [17:40] smplayer is pretty fast though [17:40] holstein: VLC just doesn't get along with my netbook [17:40] indeed :) [17:40] timmma, try smplayer, sudo apt-get install smplayer --no-install-recommends [17:40] because smplayer uses qt :P [17:41] whats "QT"? [17:41] !qt [17:41] the Qt toolkit (pronounced "cute"), which forms the base of !KDE, is a cross-platform C++ application framework for !CLI and !GUI applications. Install libqt4-dev and see !build to compile Qt4 applications, join #qt for development support [17:41] it will install half of kde for you without --no-install-recommends right ? :D [17:42] right [17:42] well im not sure, i just do that for any qt stuff, just to be sure [17:48] Hello! I there going to be Xubuntu R Alpha 2 release? [17:49] *Is [17:53] dont think so, no [17:54] just dailies [17:54] you can always just upgrade and get the current packages.. i would check at #ubuntu+1 do make sure there are no "deal breakers" [18:29] [Xubuntu 10.04] How to increase the number of workspaces from 2 to 4 in the Workspace Switcher? [18:30] bullgard4: right click on it then go to settings [18:32] timmma: There appears a context menu. This context menu does not show any menu item "settings". [18:33] thank you for answers, I went for dailies and then remembered Testdrive :) [18:33] bullgard4: what about right clicking on the workspace switcher [18:34] pre 4.10 I think didnt have Workspace Settings item (?) what version of Xubuntu do you use, bullgard? [18:35] xubuntu699: 10.04 [18:36] Yes, I think it has Xfce 4.6 or 4.8. You have to go through Settings in main menu [18:36] then Workspaces or something lie that [18:37] *like [18:37] xubuntu699: If I press Applications > Accesssories > About Ubuntu, it tells me "You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS." [18:39] heyo, anyone got any general tips for uefi systems? i have windows 7 on one drive, and I have an empty sata-drive that I want to install xubuntu on [18:39] will this be a problem? it didn't work with wubi [18:42] [solved] Applications > Settings > Xfce4 Settings Manager > Workspaces > Number of workspaces=4 did the trick. [18:43] Cool :) [18:44] pepperbird: Please read the articles in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Wiki/Tags?tag=UEFI. But they are still under construction. [18:44] thanks [18:45] this is in german though, i guess i could google translate it [18:45] !uefi [18:45] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [18:45] pepperbird, ^ [18:45] pepperbird: I am sorry for this inconvenience. [18:46] thanks [18:47] np [18:48] Where can I find an Update Manager in Xubuntu 10.04? [18:49] [solved] [18:51] If I upgrade from Xubuntu 10.04 to Xubuntu 12.04.2 using Update manager, will keyboard shortcuts be retained? [18:53] I always do fresh install :) [18:53] and, of course, I have /ho on separate partition [18:54] */home [18:56] xubuntu699: I have done 4 years successfully without a separate home partion. So let's see if I will do likewise the next 4 years. [19:02] bazhang do you think doing this via wubi will work? i currently don't have any dvd/cd-rom or any usb-stick [19:02] pepperbird, wubi? thats more of a "test drive" [19:03] oh [19:03] i thought it was an installation method [19:03] so there's no way to install it from windows? [19:04] !wubi [19:04] Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe [19:05] "like" a windows application could mean either "in the same way you would" or actually "in the form of" [19:06] pepperbird: you go to the same place to remove it [19:06] pepperbird: in "add remove" applications, or however you remove applications in windows.. "like" a windows application [19:06] i see [19:06] so it's in the form of [19:06] dang :( [19:07] pepperbird: whats the issue? [19:07] i have no installation media available [19:07] if you have no other way of doing it, wubi is what you are doing [19:07] well it sounds sketchy [19:07] to install it as a windows app [19:07] i want it indepentent from windows on a separate sata-drive [19:07] sketchy? [19:08] when/if it becomes "sketchy", you can easily remove it [19:08]