| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| popey | Morning | 09:22 |
|---|---|---|
| MartijnVdS | hi | 09:22 |
| AlanBell | morning | 09:52 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: did you know you can get white pudding in Morrisons Aldershot? | 09:52 |
| popey | ooh! | 09:52 |
| popey | i feel a trip to Morrisons Aldershot is on the cards | 09:53 |
| redtape-renegade | ☺ Authome ! Another Saturday VOID to fill ... Morrisons hey ??!? | 09:53 |
| AlanBell | white pudding is nom | 09:53 |
| AlanBell | I have my smtpd working great now | 09:54 |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell: Could I send you another sterling note .. So that when the next distro DVD become available .. you could perchance post it to the ofice , on North Quay ? | 09:55 |
| AlanBell | turned out to be much easier to use python smtpd library and listen for the emails directly than mess about with exim | 09:55 |
| * popey starts filling the saturday void with chocolate croissants | 09:55 | |
| AlanBell | redtape-renegade: sure, I just want the return postage really, as long as I am not out of pocket that is fine | 09:56 |
| AlanBell | just mark it clearly that you are wanting 13.04 and I won't post it straight back with 12.10 in it :) | 09:56 |
| redtape-renegade | .. it's just that I've got the sterling note/s now ( which is not common) ... Oh Ok .. I'll post some Moulin Rouge now then .. Good luck with 13.04 !! | 09:57 |
| * redtape-renegade posts the sterling notes & marks down the 13.04 DVD as a fixed asset.. I'll reconcile that, later ! | 10:01 | |
| jacobw | people still buys CDs :| | 10:03 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: Yes! I do! Lots of them! :) | 10:17 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: ones with music on mostly though :) | 10:17 |
| jacobw | MartijnVdS: that's OK | 10:18 |
| popey | ACTIVITY: APPROVED! | 10:19 |
| jacobw | :) | 10:20 |
| jacobw | i haven't burnt an ISO for so long | 10:20 |
| popey | I burned one last weekend for a machine which can't boot off usb | 10:20 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: what kind of stone-age machine is that? :) | 10:21 |
| jacobw | an archimedes | 10:25 |
| * jacobw feels nostalgia for acorns | 10:26 | |
| popey | HP xe4100 | 10:28 |
| * dwatkins didn't know Archimedes came with CD drives | 10:34 | |
| dwatkins | I had a BBC Micro, still got one in fact. | 10:34 |
| dwatkins | I'm waiting for this to be back in stock so I can add a USB storage device to it: http://www.retroclinic.com/acorn/datacentre/datacentre.htm | 10:41 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone | 10:57 |
| jacobw | morning | 11:03 |
| brobostigon | morning jacobw | 11:04 |
| mfraz74 | how long should it take to dd a 1TB hard drive? | 11:18 |
| MartijnVdS | depends on its transfer rate :) | 11:18 |
| mfraz74 | both drives are on internal SATA interface, been going for about 2 hours so far | 11:19 |
| MartijnVdS | mfraz74: check the pid of the "dd" process ("pidof dd" should do the trick) | 11:19 |
| MartijnVdS | mfraz74: then send it SIGUSR1: | 11:19 |
| MartijnVdS | kill -USR1 pid_you_found_here | 11:20 |
| MartijnVdS | there's a bit about it in the manpage | 11:20 |
| popey | I'd expect it to take quite a while | 11:21 |
| MartijnVdS | I guess it would.. but the SIGUSR1 thing will give you a progress report | 11:21 |
| MartijnVdS | + an average speed | 11:21 |
| mfraz74 | 721GB copied 99.7 MB/s | 11:22 |
| mfraz74 | Thanks MartijnVdS | 11:22 |
| MartijnVdS | almost there :) | 11:22 |
| mfraz74 | Yep | 11:22 |
| mfraz74 | Just hope the drive works afterwards. | 11:23 |
| mfraz74 | Been getting drive errors on booting for the past couple of days and have had to run fsck each day to get it working. Hoping that cloing the drive to a fresh one will work | 11:24 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd fsck the new drive before booting off it | 11:24 |
| mfraz74 | will do | 11:25 |
| jacobw | dumb question, how does purchasing from the software centre work? | 11:32 |
| MartijnVdS | using money? | 11:33 |
| jacobw | yes, i'd gotten that far | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | :) | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | probably using Ubuntu One.. maybe similar to the music store? | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | or probaby more like buying extra GBs on U1 | 11:33 |
| jacobw | Does it give me a token that I use in my HTTP request to get the DEB of what I'm buying? | 11:34 |
| MartijnVdS | popey will know | 11:34 |
| popey | private PPAs | 11:35 |
| popey | is how it works | 11:35 |
| jacobw | that's interesting | 11:35 |
| popey | when you buy something you get granted access to a private ppa | 11:35 |
| jacobw | how? | 11:35 |
| gary | hi | 11:35 |
| gary | everyone | 11:35 |
| MartijnVdS | launchpad credentials? | 11:35 |
| popey | how what? | 11:35 |
| === gary is now known as Guest41101 | ||
| MartijnVdS | popey: How do you authenticate yourself to the PPA('s web server bits) | 11:36 |
| Guest41101 | hello | 11:36 |
| jacobw | Yes, what MartijnVdS said | 11:36 |
| popey | creds are stored in apt config | 11:36 |
| Guest41101 | i am new to this live chat | 11:36 |
| jacobw | Hi Guest41101 | 11:36 |
| Guest41101 | please i need soem help | 11:36 |
| Guest41101 | some* | 11:36 |
| popey | look in /etc/apt/auth.conf | 11:36 |
| popey | you'll see creds for everything you have bought | 11:36 |
| jacobw | are the private PPAs shared between buyers? | 11:37 |
| popey | yes | 11:37 |
| Guest41101 | i am trying to install the mars jar simulator on ubuntu but it would not run. i click on the folder it just opens with many files inside | 11:37 |
| MartijnVdS | it's probably a single PPA with some kind of authentication backend | 11:37 |
| popey | well, multiple people have access to the same ppa, yes | 11:37 |
| * AlanBell wonders what to use for managing user subscriptions, don't fancy writing that part | 11:38 | |
| Guest41101 | can someone help me | 11:38 |
| Guest41101 | pls | 11:38 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: user subscriptions to what? | 11:38 |
| MartijnVdS | Guest41101: what's a mars jar simulator? | 11:38 |
| AlanBell | exceptionalemails.com | 11:38 |
| jacobw | it sounds like a JAR file | 11:38 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: mailman? :) | 11:38 |
| Guest41101 | mars V4.2 | 11:38 |
| Guest41101 | is for assembly language | 11:39 |
| AlanBell | Guest41101: where did it come from? | 11:39 |
| jacobw | Or even plus addressing and smart filtering | 11:39 |
| Guest41101 | i downloaded from moussori state university website | 11:40 |
| AlanBell | http://courses.missouristate.edu/kenvollmar/mars/download.htm then | 11:40 |
| jacobw | Guest41101: please run `file /path/to/file` and paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com then paste the URL here for us | 11:40 |
| AlanBell | so yeah, that is a java jar file | 11:40 |
| jacobw | !paste | 11:40 |
| lubotu3 | Pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 11:40 |
| AlanBell | Guest41101: I would assume from a terminal java -jar Mars.jar | 11:41 |
| popey | (assuming you have java installed) | 11:41 |
| Guest41101 | i don't have a java installed | 11:41 |
| AlanBell | java -jar Mars4_3.jar | 11:42 |
| Guest41101 | i thought java run time is already in the linux distribution | 11:42 |
| popey | not by default, no | 11:42 |
| Guest41101 | oh ok | 11:42 |
| MartijnVdS | it's available for install through the software centre though | 11:42 |
| Guest41101 | how do i install the sdk or j2se 1.5 | 11:42 |
| AlanBell | or sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk | 11:43 |
| Guest41101 | i am new to using linux | 11:43 |
| Guest41101 | ok | 11:43 |
| popey | i think you mean openjdk-7-jre ? | 11:43 |
| MartijnVdS | 1.5 is not supported anymore | 11:43 |
| MartijnVdS | Only Java 6 and 7 | 11:43 |
| Guest41101 | let me try to install the java | 11:43 |
| jacobw | Can it be installed with the Software Centre? | 11:43 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: yes | 11:44 |
| popey | apt://openjdk-7-jre | 11:44 |
| popey | if that's a link it should work | 11:44 |
| Guest41101 | should i use this command in the terminal | 11:44 |
| Guest41101 | sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk | 11:44 |
| AlanBell | yeah, that will work | 11:45 |
| popey | ttps://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/openjdk-7-jre/ | 11:45 |
| jacobw | Yes | 11:45 |
| Guest41101 | Alnbell? | 11:45 |
| popey | or click the link there | 11:45 |
| * MartijnVdS hands popey an extra h | 11:45 | |
| jacobw | s/^/h/ | 11:45 |
| AlanBell | then java -jar Mars4_3.jar | 11:45 |
| popey | https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/openjdk-7-jdk/ or there even | 11:45 |
| * AlanBell has a look round mars | 11:45 | |
| * popey gives up and makes lunch ☺ | 11:46 | |
| * AlanBell wants lunch | 11:46 | |
| Guest41101 | @Alanbell, i am done with the installation | 11:46 |
| Guest41101 | so how do i install the Mars jar now | 11:46 |
| Guest41101 | ? | 11:46 |
| AlanBell | you don't need to install it, just run it | 11:46 |
| AlanBell | cd Downloads | 11:47 |
| AlanBell | java -jar Mars4_3.jar | 11:47 |
| AlanBell | and it runs | 11:47 |
| Guest41101 | ok | 11:47 |
| jacobw | If you install openjdk-7-jre do you a file associate in Nautilus for JAR files? | 11:47 |
| jacobw | I don't know | 11:47 |
| AlanBell | I don't think you do jacobw | 11:48 |
| AlanBell | it still opens as a zip file | 11:48 |
| AlanBell | it would be nice if jar files automatically ran themselves with java -jar $filename | 11:49 |
| AlanBell | but there is probably some purist reason why that is a bad idea, I don't know enough about java really | 11:49 |
| jacobw | It's a much more common use case than decompressing the JAR | 11:49 |
| AlanBell | it is for someone who has a minecraft.jar file | 11:50 |
| AlanBell | but I think there are lots of jar files that are components or libraries of big applications that you wouldn't want to run, but I don't know if that is harmful | 11:51 |
| AlanBell | certainly the common use-case for someone who doesn't know what they are doing (me) would be to run the thing | 11:51 |
| * AlanBell thinks exceptionalemails.com might end up with a joomla! front end | 11:52 | |
| jacobw | I like the idea | 11:52 |
| Guest41101 | @Alan i tried the command on terminal it came out with the message try sudo apt-get install <selected package> | 11:53 |
| Guest41101 | still not working | 11:53 |
| AlanBell | which command? | 11:53 |
| Guest41101 | java -jar Mars4_3.jar | 11:53 |
| AlanBell | and what happens if you type "java -version" | 11:54 |
| Guest41101 | how you mean | 11:54 |
| Guest41101 | ? | 11:54 |
| popey | install openjdk-7-jre-headless | 11:54 |
| AlanBell | just type "java -version" in the terminal, it should tell you what version of java you are running | 11:54 |
| AlanBell | popey: it is a gui application | 11:54 |
| Guest41101 | ok | 11:54 |
| popey | so is minecraft | 11:55 |
| popey | dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java | 11:55 |
| popey | openjdk-7-jre-headless:amd64: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java | 11:55 |
| AlanBell | it should return three lines including OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.6) (7u13-2.3.6-1ubuntu1) | 11:55 |
| AlanBell | or close to that | 11:55 |
| AlanBell | Guest41101: you are running this on an Ubuntu desktop installation, right? | 11:56 |
| Guest41101 | It says no command found@Alan | 11:56 |
| Guest41101 | ubuntu on my laptop | 11:56 |
| Guest41101 | yeah | 11:56 |
| AlanBell | ok, so you didn't install java yet | 11:57 |
| popey | did the "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk" line finish okay? | 11:57 |
| Guest41101 | k | 11:57 |
| popey | aquarius: someone here may be able to help though... | 12:05 |
| aquarius | popey, ah, good thought. Anyone feeling knowledgeable about apt and why I'm getting file collides when I try and install the qt5 proper PPA packages to do Ubuntu mobile development? | 12:06 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: i did in fact :) then I can nip over to tesco and get my red lemonade :) | 12:08 |
| Guest41101 | i hi Alan | 12:08 |
| Guest41101 | i have just installed java | 12:08 |
| Guest41101 | ran the coman java -jar Mars4_3.jar | 12:09 |
| Guest41101 | it says unable to access jarfile Mars4_3 | 12:09 |
| Guest41101 | hello | 12:12 |
| bizup | hi | 12:14 |
| bizup | @Alan is me guest | 12:14 |
| bizup | is anyone here pls | 12:15 |
| bizup | hello | 12:16 |
| bizup | hello | 12:16 |
| AlanBell | Bizup needs to cd to the right directory | 12:18 |
| self | how do u mean | 12:18 |
| self | Alanbel | 12:19 |
| self | i ran the command and it says | 12:19 |
| AlanBell | cd Downloads | 12:19 |
| AlanBell | use ls to see if you are in the directory with the jar file | 12:19 |
| AlanBell | the browser probably put it in the Downloads directory | 12:19 |
| self | pls guide me through | 12:20 |
| self | what do i do | 12:20 |
| AlanBell | where did you download the file to? | 12:20 |
| self | the Mars Jar? | 12:20 |
| AlanBell | yes | 12:20 |
| self | is on the download | 12:20 |
| self | i extracted it there | 12:20 |
| AlanBell | don't | 12:20 |
| AlanBell | you don't need to extract it, you need to run it | 12:21 |
| self | ok | 12:21 |
| self | let me delete the extracted copy | 12:21 |
| self | still saying unable to access the file | 12:23 |
| self | i justdont know what happening | 12:23 |
| self | with all the guidance you have given me | 12:23 |
| self | it should work | 12:23 |
| self | should i redownload it again | 12:24 |
| self | ? | 12:24 |
| AlanBell | self: have you got the jar file in a directory somewhere? | 12:24 |
| self | i just downloaded it and is in the download folder | 12:25 |
| AlanBell | right, so in a terminal if you are in the Downloads directory your terminal prompt should look like | 12:26 |
| AlanBell | self@selflaptop:~/Downloads$ | 12:26 |
| AlanBell | or similar | 12:26 |
| AlanBell | then if you type "ls" to list the files in that directory you should see Mars4_3.jar | 12:27 |
| self | no my terminal is on the user directory | 12:27 |
| AlanBell | ok | 12:27 |
| self | my computer name | 12:27 |
| AlanBell | so "cd Downloads" | 12:27 |
| self | i should type the command on terminal? | 12:27 |
| AlanBell | yes | 12:27 |
| AlanBell | cd changes directory | 12:27 |
| self | ok | 12:28 |
| self | ok | 12:28 |
| self | i am there now | 12:28 |
| AlanBell | java -jar Mars4_3.jar | 12:29 |
| self | the letter D has to be in capital right? | 12:29 |
| self | i tried small letters and it did not find it | 12:29 |
| AlanBell | it does, things are case sensitive | 12:29 |
| AlanBell | !tab | 12:29 |
| lubotu3 | You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 12:29 |
| self | ok | 12:29 |
| redtape-renegade | Anyone got an Android here ? http://bit.ly/XfR0CT | 12:30 |
| self | you are just one in a million@Alan | 12:31 |
| self | you the best | 12:31 |
| self | it works for me now | 12:31 |
| self | :) | 12:31 |
| self | Thanks so much | 12:31 |
| self | are you always here Alan | 12:31 |
| AlanBell | \o/ | 12:33 |
| AlanBell | anyone know how to use wps to set up a printer? | 12:33 |
| StevenR | AlanBell: does the printer support WPS? | 12:34 |
| AlanBell | StevenR: yeah, as does the router | 12:34 |
| AlanBell | pressed the button on each of them, nothing obvious happened | 12:34 |
| redtape-renegade | Here's the Wallpaper bundle :: http://bitly.com/bundles/o_4hmeb0pdlm/1 | 12:35 |
| StevenR | is WPS *enabled* on the router? | 12:35 |
| StevenR | (I turn it off, for example, and some routers ship with it disabled) | 12:35 |
| self | @Alan is working now | 12:35 |
| AlanBell | StevenR: ok, found a wps thing in the router config | 12:37 |
| AlanBell | not sure the button on the printer that I think is a WPS button is in fact a WPS button | 12:38 |
| * AlanBell has to pop out | 12:39 | |
| * popey puts AlanBell back in again | 12:39 | |
| * AlanBell has a printer working | 13:56 | |
| AlanBell | that was harder than it needed to be | 13:56 |
| kvarley | Who is responsible for the TF2 server that Canonical is sponsoring this weekend, anybody know? The server is out of date! | 14:18 |
| BigRedS | I _really_ wish there was a small download I could do to find out if TF2 will work on my laptop | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: what kind of graphics card do you have? | 14:50 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: and CPU? | 14:50 |
| MartijnVdS | apparently it's flaky on Intel CPUs (it only works Sandy/Ivy bridge or newer, and even then I've heard it's crashy) | 14:51 |
| MartijnVdS | but AMD/NVidia should work as long as they support GLSL 1.3 | 14:51 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: pre-sandy Intel | 14:51 |
| MartijnVdS | you'll get a black screen | 14:52 |
| MartijnVdS | if you force GLSL 1.3 mode, you'll get a tiny window in the top right with everything inverted and mirrored | 14:52 |
| MartijnVdS | and then it crashes | 14:52 |
| BigRedS | Ah. That *was* a small download to find out | 14:52 |
| BigRedS | :) | 14:52 |
| BigRedS | about 200 chars | 14:52 |
| * MartijnVdS tried that 8-) | 14:52 | |
| BigRedS | whoah, CS works really well, though | 15:04 |
| BigRedS | I think this is still an anally-free Debian | 15:04 |
| BigRedS | Oh. No it isn't. But, still, games on debian? Whodathunkit | 15:04 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| SuperEngineer | art'noon all | 15:40 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings SuperEngineer | 15:40 |
| directhex | dxssssssssssssssssssss\zz\zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzaop'#################kmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, | 15:40 |
| SuperEngineer | hi brobostigon | 15:41 |
| jacobw | directhex: as you say | 15:41 |
| SuperEngineer | had great "fun" last night installing steam - then "updating" nvidia driver... | 15:42 |
| SuperEngineer | "a newer driver" blah blah... so went for earliest of experimentals [304] | 15:43 |
| SuperEngineer | then steam told me a newer was [310] was available | 15:44 |
| SuperEngineer | ...reallly *should* have ignoored that message ;) | 15:44 |
| SuperEngineer | *ignored | 15:44 |
| SuperEngineer | ...anybody here using steam - nvidia - 12.04.2 ? | 15:45 |
| directhex | i wish | 15:46 |
| SuperEngineer | I'm not knocking steam - it was a driver fail - with a lot of tiredness at 1am, and a lot of perseverence via obtuse methods - got driver back down to 304 - phew | 15:47 |
| * SuperEngineer is now proud owner of Half Life and of World of Goo - for extortionate price of £3.23 - good on ya steam, thanks for the go-live special sale | 15:51 | |
| dwatkins | I'm surprised this stuff isn't easy, SuperEngineer. | 15:51 |
| dwatkins | downgrading a driver, that is | 15:51 |
| SuperEngineer | dwatkins: the reason I think it was a cottupt download was that I ended up booting to previous kernel, trying to back down 1 by 1.. | 15:52 |
| dwatkins | kaputt? corrupt? | 15:53 |
| SuperEngineer | ...I eventually found the only one that would take was the opiginal nvidia [version current] | 15:54 |
| SuperEngineer | ...sys would boot but x total fail - text login then xsstart gave me the clue | 15:54 |
| SuperEngineer | ...mixed [failed] versions | 15:55 |
| dwatkins | how do you uninstall a gfx driver form the command line? with apt? | 15:55 |
| SuperEngineer | ...but I'm tempted to give it another go - just to stop the annoying "an updated driver...] message every time I start steam! | 15:56 |
| SuperEngineer | dwatkins: if that last was meant for me... I didn't | 15:56 |
| dwatkins | SuperEngineer: how did you downgrade the driver in the end? | 15:57 |
| SuperEngineer | I found "alternative method - out of sheer tiredness and being a bit cheesed off | 15:57 |
| SuperEngineer | dwatkins: booted to earlier kernel, found that although it wasn't perfect it gave me x | 15:58 |
| SuperEngineer | ..then fired upo Additional Drivers from there | 15:58 |
| dwatkins | cool | 15:58 |
| SuperEngineer | ...I'm sure that method is not recommended [& have not found in any Googling] - but - when tired but determined, *it worked* | 16:00 |
| SuperEngineer | ;D | 16:01 |
| SuperEngineer | [btw - my only disappointment with Steam is that they haven't got Tiny Inferno on Linux yet, just windoze | 16:06 |
| SuperEngineer | ...and that it's not in the sale ;) | 16:07 |
| * SuperEngineer is a cheapskate | 16:07 | |
| livingdaylight | I'm looking at ubuntu tv and ubuntu for android. Are these realities now or plans for the future. I saw no 'how-to' link | 16:18 |
| popey | ubuntu for android exists, but it's not avaliable to buy _yet_ | 16:21 |
| livingdaylight | but one can download and install it presumably? | 16:23 |
| popey | not yet | 16:23 |
| livingdaylight | and ubuntu tv? | 16:23 |
| BigRedS | Anyone know what that PHP extension is/was that'll produce a picture showing which functions are used and how much? | 16:24 |
| livingdaylight | ok, so they are still plans | 16:24 |
| BigRedS | I think an Alan used it; AlanBell? | 16:24 |
| livingdaylight | any idea when they should become available? | 16:24 |
| mgdm | BigRedS: xhprof | 16:25 |
| mgdm | BigRedS: or xdebug can do it too, with the right options | 16:25 |
| BigRedS | mgdm: aha! Ta! xdebug's installed already, I'll go rtfm better :) | 16:25 |
| mgdm | BigRedS: http://www.xdebug.org/docs/profiler | 16:26 |
| mgdm | BigRedS: http://code.google.com/p/webgrind/ might be interesting too | 16:26 |
| BigRedS | oh, cool, cheers! | 16:27 |
| mgdm | if you have loadsamoney you can use New Relic, which is awesome, but quite pricey | 16:34 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Afternoon peeps :-) | 17:52 |
| mgdm | o/ | 17:52 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Finally have windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10 running on this box. Though I had to buy a 2nd drive to do so. | 17:54 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 worked OK. Let it install the 272 updates and now unity isn't starting correctly | 17:55 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Login screen works OK. Login and the default background is there, but nothing else | 17:55 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm_xoom: try going to VT1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and restarting lightdm | 17:59 |
| MartijnVdS | that worked for me | 17:59 |
| bigcalm_xoom | MartijnVdS: that will put me back at the login and then I get the same result | 18:09 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Ctrl alt f1 gives me a flashing cursor and nothing else. | 18:10 |
| * bigcalm_xoom installs xubutu-desktop hope this works | 18:11 | |
| * penguin42 wonders how to stop firefox using it's unbuilt pdf viewer - it's pants | 18:12 | |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: it has one now? | 18:12 |
| MartijnVdS | the one in chrome is OK | 18:12 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: It's slow at high zooms and I just like either evince or okular | 18:14 |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm... got a big whoopsie here - none of last night's magic working... tried updating to nvidia latest experimental again... *fail* - this time unable to revert | 18:41 |
| SuperEngineer | ..any ideas | 18:41 |
| SuperEngineer | [cureently on previous 12.04 kernel [.36] - nothing takes in .37 | 18:42 |
| SuperEngineer | *currently | 18:43 |
| SuperEngineer | ...and only able to revert to nvidia current - in one word... *heeeeelp!* | 18:44 |
| popey | bigcalm_xoom: what video driver is installed? | 18:44 |
| popey | bigcalm_xoom: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log when it boots to blank desktop | 18:45 |
| SuperEngineer | popey: only just come back online - was that for me or bigcalm_xoom | 18:50 |
| SuperEngineer | ...and there goes my penultimae option! i wonder if removing the 3,2,0,27 kernel itself and reinstalling would work | 19:14 |
| SuperEngineer | *penultimate | 19:14 |
| SuperEngineer | ...and whoopsie again - just realised, .37 kernel | 19:16 |
| SuperEngineer | sigh... despite the lack of response I myself remain helpful... anyone using 12.04.2, nVidia Geforce 21n series, and kernel 3.2.0.37 - *do not* try the 310 version of the driver as it = borked xsystem, stay with 304, despite Steam's annoying reminders | 19:24 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Have you got a bug filed on that - so that's an install from 12.04.1 upgraded ? | 19:37 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: no - not yet, only just got a working system back [using 3.3.36 kernel] - givvus a chance mate ;) | 19:39 |
| penguin42 | hehe | 19:39 |
| SuperEngineer | been busy posting warning on twitter & mail list | 19:39 |
| SuperEngineer | ...& if anyone replies "why don't you just get a newer pooter?" ... moider is to be expected! | 19:44 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Don't worry, you can hide the body in some beefburgers | 19:45 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: :D | 19:45 |
| SuperEngineer | file bug or watch Dr. Who? hmmm - no choice! | 19:50 |
| penguin42 | that's what PVRs are for - get your priorities right! | 19:55 |
| SuperEngineer | personal viewing rights - Dr. Who still wins ;) | 19:57 |
| * AlanBell starts a team meeting thingummy over in #ubuntu-uk-meeting | 19:58 | |
| SuperEngineer | darn - another Dr Who disturbance ;) | 19:59 |
| DJones | Question from my Dad "My laptop keeps shutting down, any idea why?" | 20:00 |
| DJones | Any suggestions welcome, you have the same diagnostic info as me | 20:01 |
| penguin42 | fluf in the fan | 20:01 |
| SuperEngineer | loose battery | 20:01 |
| DJones | They're about as good as you can get without more info | 20:02 |
| DJones | Apart from the '72 year old user error, clicking shutdown and forgetting" | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | how old is the laptop and what surface is it on? | 20:06 |
| DJones | 2-3 years old and sat on the armrest of the sofa | 20:10 |
| DJones | And its running W7, so could be anything, a b utterfly farted in central america, so Win 7 decides to shut down :) | 20:10 |
| popey | hah | 20:14 |
| SuperEngineer | Is it safe to completely remove a linux image newer than one in current session via synaptic? | 20:41 |
| SuperEngineer | ...worries me as it also wants to remove linux-image & linux-image-generic | 20:43 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Found a bug while resizing a partition during the installer. Accedently tried to resize larger than the disk. Now I'm getting an error box of "can't have a partition outside of the disk!" That keeps coming back as soon as I clear it | 20:45 |
| popey | bigcalm_xoom: take screenshots / photos to file a bug? | 20:48 |
| popey | I'm sure xnox would be interested ☺ | 20:48 |
| xnox | bigcalm_xoom: manual partitioning or the automatic resize widget? | 20:48 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Manual | 20:48 |
| xnox | and not kubuntu?! | 20:49 |
| bigcalm_xoom | No | 20:49 |
| xnox | bigcalm_xoom: ubuntu-bug ubiquity and please describe what you did. I can look at it next time i'll be poking manual partitioning. | 20:49 |
| bigcalm_xoom | I will try | 20:50 |
| brobostigon | question, do those tablet bottle, that have that push-screw top, seal tablets properly? | 20:51 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Oh dear, ubuntu-bug says that ubiquity is not an official ubuntu package and can't be reported | 20:53 |
| * bigcalm_xoom restarts and tries to be more careful | 20:56 | |
| SuperEngineer | ah well... taking the chance anyway | 20:56 |
| * SuperEngineer crrosses fingies | 20:56 | |
| xnox | =/ | 20:56 |
| xnox | bigcalm_xoom: it may take a while for us to catch on that the bug-reporting tool has a bug | 20:56 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Hehe | 20:57 |
| xnox | bigcalm_xoom: are you launching that from the cd? | 20:57 |
| SuperEngineer | & promises to do update-grub before restart! | 20:57 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Xbox: fresh 12.10 image from a USB stick. Selected up | 20:58 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Gah | 20:58 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Selected download updates while installing and install 3rd party software | 20:58 |
| * bigcalm_xoom returns to watching MIB2 on bluray with his lovely lady | 21:02 | |
| mgdm | bigcalm_xoom: enjoy | 21:02 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Ta :) | 21:02 |
| rindolf | Hi all. | 21:02 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Hayley hasn't seen it. Should be fun | 21:02 |
| bigcalm_xoom | Oh, might be what you called the resize widget. I wasn't in disk | 21:05 |
| * bigcalm_xoom runs away | 21:06 | |
| SuperEngineer | ok, fully removed 3.2.0.37, updated grub... before I reboot, did i miss anything obvious? | 21:09 |
| BigRedS | nah, you'll have missed something hidden | 21:16 |
| SuperEngineer | thanks for the confidence BigRedS | 21:18 |
| BigRedS | haha | 21:20 |
| BigRedS | no worries! | 21:20 |
| === RaycisCharles is now known as SassyManOfColour | ||
| SuperEngineer | ..and that's another added to "ignore" | 22:17 |
| popey | ? | 22:18 |
| SuperEngineer | popey: another racist named user | 22:19 |
| popey | oh missed that | 22:20 |
| czajkowski | popey: oh I share the same bug as you | 22:21 |
| czajkowski | bug #1041790 | 22:21 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1041790 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[sandybridge-m-gt2] GPU lockup IPEHR: 0x0b160001 IPEHR: 0x0b140001" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041790 | 22:21 |
| popey | annoying isnt it? | 22:21 |
| czajkowski | VERY | 22:23 |
| czajkowski | between that and my wifi bug little bit frustrated | 22:23 |
| czajkowski | logged a new bug for the wifi as the kernel folks think it's different | 22:23 |
| czajkowski | but have also confirmed it | 22:23 |
| SuperEngineer | wish me luck folks - here goes the reboot after removing a newer kernel. If I'm not back soon, you'll know why ;;) | 22:24 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| SuperEngineer | ...Iiiii'mmmm baa-aaaack! | 22:39 |
| SuperEngineer | ...kernel remove / reinstal worked | 22:39 |
| * SuperEngineer wonders if he dare try his luck and go for an nvidia driver update as well? | 22:41 | |
| SuperEngineer | to paraphrase a certain writer... I'm a braver man than you, Gungadin! | 22:42 |
| SuperEngineer | darn! where are those nvidia drivers hiding.. I go for a download, no network activity followed by | 23:05 |
| SuperEngineer | 2failed | 23:05 |
| SuperEngineer | 2 | 23:05 |
| SuperEngineer | I'm sure I need to remove old downloads... somehow | 23:05 |
| SuperEngineer | [sub 2/"] | 23:06 |
| SuperEngineer | if it wasn't for getting steam back I'd be happy using nvidia current | 23:07 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| SuperEngineer | 'ang on - just tried the games downloaded this morning, they still work! It's just Steam that wants updated drivers | 23:15 |
| SuperEngineer | ...so call it quits and kill Steam? ...but will that also remove the games? | 23:16 |
| SuperEngineer | any ideas? | 23:17 |
| SuperEngineer | aww come on! there must be someone out there with a brain still working | 23:20 |
| SuperEngineer | hmm... apparently not. | 23:24 |
| SuperEngineer | Oh well, here I go, on my own, down that same ol' road again. | 23:24 |
| SuperEngineer | [hope nobody else uses that lyric] ;) | 23:24 |
| phillw | SuperEngineer: maybe worth asking on #ubuntu-steam ? Yes, it does exist :) | 23:31 |
| SuperEngineer | thanks phillw - didn't know! | 23:33 |
| phillw | SuperEngineer: it was a lucky guess! Didn't have to google for it :D | 23:33 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 23:33 |
| SuperEngineer | & it's got 101 users! | 23:35 |
| SuperEngineer | looking at clock,,, think I'll call it quits with achievements so far... | 23:40 |
| SuperEngineer | [back to useable 3.3.0-37 kernel, nvidia [verion current], ganes downloaded this morning working fully again] | 23:40 |
| SuperEngineer | ...will ask on ubuntu-steam tomorrow - when brain less tired | 23:41 |
| SuperEngineer | & thanks again for the heads-up phillw | 23:42 |
| SuperEngineer | ttfn | 23:42 |
| phillw | SuperEngineer: take care! | 23:42 |
| SuperEngineer | will do | 23:43 |
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