[00:25] Cheri703: If you're car-free, Denver might not be the greatest place to live... [00:27] I've heard mixed opinions. when I visited last month I used the bus to get around, and it was fine. I have a recumbent trike with an electric assist, so that'll get me around pretty well too. [00:28] Its public transit is pretty lacking compared to most big cities, and during the winter it can be extremely unpleasant going by foot or bike sometimes. [00:28] However, if you limit yourself to specific areas where the transit is available, it should be okay. [00:28] Coming from a small town in Ohio, and last winter I commuted to my (horrible) job on my trike through the ENTIRE winter, it'll be ok :) There's a bus system here, but it is VERY limited [00:31] :) [00:31] I like to joke around about the fact that it is *actually* uphill both ways for me to walk downtown from my house, and I will tell my nephew stories when he's older about "walking up hill both ways in the snow, just to " [00:32] I'm pretty fond of Fort Collins. If I leave, it won't be for Denver, but to somewhere with more humid and consistent weather instead. [00:32] my trip in Jnauary was my first time ever in CO, I hope to explore the state more once I move out there :) [00:33] I moved to ohio from california when I was a kid (thanks parents), and I have been here almost 20 years, and I have *never* gotten acclimated to the humid summers. I have so much trouble breathing :/ [00:34] so dry summers will be a welcome change :) [00:38] Cheri703: one of the many reasons I moved to Colorado from NY [00:39] Cheri703: it was always overcast, humid, and for several weeks a year we had no power or water due to storms [00:39] Yeah, my parents live in western NY, and I have been there in july and august, and they don't have a/c >_< SOGGY SOGGY SOGGY and HOT [00:39] Cheri703: consequently I used to chop a lot of wood for the wood stove [00:39] joey: same for them! [00:40] they have a well though, so they're set on water :) [00:41] hmm efm... [00:41] I recognize those 3 letters [00:41] Heh, the dry winters here make my sinuses bleed... and the hot summers make me melt every time I step out of air-conditioned areas. Our temperature range is from about -20 F to 110 F, and I really prefer about 40 F to 70 F. [00:42] efm: sean still around? [00:42] joey: You're familiar with our local premium Linux service company, Tummy, no? If so, you probably know efm. [00:42] ToyKeeper: actually that's what I love about Colorado [00:43] ToyKeeper: yep that's who I thought it was... [00:43] Colorado springs and falls are nice. :) [00:43] ToyKeeper: yeah, but I've known ohio folks to go out west in the summer, say "hmm, it's probably like...80 with x% humidity, yeah?" and folks go O_O No, it's over 100F, so...it's likely comparable. difference is: evaporative cooling works in dry places, NOT in humid places [00:43] I tried to convince Oksana to move to Alaska but she wouldn't have it [00:43] then I tried Canada and should wouldn't have it [00:44] former roommate moved to alaska, we were talking and she's like "it's only -25f today, it's not bad" I said she was insane [00:44] Heh, Alaska summers are terrible if you want to go outside. Hordes of huge mosquitos. [00:44] yeah the skeeters are ruthless [00:45] they are all the size of half-dollar coins [00:45] and they travel in packs like locusts [00:45] yay off Monday [00:46] Oh, hey. Federal holiday. Woot! [00:46] ok I'm heading out. I think for fun I'm going to work on my sdf.org gopher page [00:46] toodles [00:46] I'm heading out shortly too. have a good evening folks! [01:16] joey: yes, though he's out of town at the moment [01:17] Cheri703: what brand of electric trike do you have? I was thinking of swapping my car for one this year [01:18] ttyl Cheri703 [01:18] well, I have a Trident Trikes Spike, and I added a kit from e-bike kit to it. so it's an aftermarket change [01:18] (I'm still here, ride hasn't come yet) [01:18] ah [01:18] I'm hoping to upgrade trike and/or kit at some point soon [01:18] Sean got an electric bike last year, and rode it everywhere [01:18] you can add e-bike kits to pretty much ANY bike or trike these days [01:19] I'm more of a trike speed [01:19] hmm [01:19] recumbent trikes are THE BEST [01:19] LOVE [01:19] I went on some good rides with Sean on his electric bike. [01:19] I'm anxious for warmer months to get here so I can ride again. [01:19] Besides, I have new bike lights to try out when it's warm enough at night to use them. [01:19] where I live is so close to the trail system, I could get anywhere in town with an electric [01:20] depends on battery, SLA are...crap [01:20] It would be so nice to be able to go shopping without a car [01:20] In the summer, I love to go out riding every night. [01:20] also bear in mind that reported mileage will likely be less with a trike: heavier, more rolling resistance with 3 wheels. I was always towing a trailer and live in a hilly town, so I don't get great mileage from mine at the moment. [01:20] In the winter though... I have to get by with DDR and other indoor activities. [01:21] hoping to either: get a LiFePo4 battery, get a whole new hub WITH LiFePo4 battery, or some other option. [01:21] efm: where do you live? [01:21] Fort Collins, in the Fossil Creek valley down south [01:21] ah, ok :) [01:22] I'm only a mile from the second major shopping district, though, so it's eminantly bikeable [01:22] nice [01:22] oh, the spike folds..thats awesome [01:23] efm: most do [01:23] icetrikes.co has a nice fold [01:23] http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/index_e.html has some nice folders [01:23] Hmm, I'm not very familiar with LiFePo4 batteries... though they have come up a few times lately while I searched for Li-Ion cells for LED torches. [01:23] ICE trikes are VERY nice [01:23] there's actually a dealer outside denver [01:24] efm: this one will blow your mind: www.evolvetrikes.com though it's not out yet [01:24] ToyKeeper: they're considered the best currently available for e-bikes [01:24] great range [01:24] efm: if you're curious about recumbents, check out the forums at www.bentrideronline.com [01:24] AMAZING resource [01:24] what I want eventually is a velomobile :) [01:25] For now, I'd be happy to find a good skirt guard for my bike. They're hard to find in the US though. [01:25] I just have to head over to http://www.rockymountainrecumbents.com/ some time and do a test ride [01:26] ToyKeeper: check out http://letsgorideabike.com/blog/ they have some skirt+bike tips :) [01:27] efm: if you were buying, and not in bargain basement price range (that's where the spike is, and where I was when I first got it), I'd HIGHLY recommend at least test riding ICE trikes, they're excellent [01:27] though most of the brands that rmr sells are pretty good too :) [01:27] thanks Cheri703 I'm not that price constrained, if it's a car replacement (which I'm planning) [01:27] hehe, then check out velomobiles :D [01:28] they're awesome [01:28] the ice trikes look to have a good suspension [01:28] sorry, you guys got me on a topic I'm passionate about :) [01:28] As for a car, I can't really bring myself to care enough to actually buy one instead of using the one my parents gifted me. [01:28] HA [01:28] efm: yeah, my parents both have ICE Adventure models, I'm eyeing the Sprint [01:29] there's a velomobile shell available for the sprint that would be a followup purchase for me :) [01:29] http://velomobiles.ca/BorealisV3.html [01:29] the video for the ICE Adveture is lovely [01:29] the adventure is similar to the sprint, but higher seat [01:29] my parents love theirs [01:29] I've been lusting after ICE trikes for years [01:30] I had a recumbent *bike* years ago (bought it in high school) and realized that the only things I disliked would be solved by having a 3rd wheel, but it took until end of 2011 to finally get myself a trike :) (about 9-10 years later) [01:32] alright, well, sorry for rambling about trikes :) my ride is on his way, so I'm off for a while. have a good weekend folks! [01:37] you too Cheri703!