[00:25] <ToyKeeper> Cheri703: If you're car-free, Denver might not be the greatest place to live...
[00:27] <Cheri703> I've heard mixed opinions. when I visited last month I used the bus to get around, and it was fine. I have a recumbent trike with an electric assist, so that'll get me around pretty well too.
[00:28] <ToyKeeper> Its public transit is pretty lacking compared to most big cities, and during the winter it can be extremely unpleasant going by foot or bike sometimes.
[00:28] <ToyKeeper> However, if you limit yourself to specific areas where the transit is available, it should be okay.
[00:28] <Cheri703> Coming from a small town in Ohio, and last winter I commuted to my (horrible) job on my trike through the ENTIRE winter, it'll be ok :) There's a bus system here, but it is VERY limited
[00:31] <ToyKeeper> :)
[00:31] <Cheri703> I like to joke around about the fact that it is *actually* uphill both ways for me to walk downtown from my house, and I will tell my nephew stories when he's older about "walking up hill both ways in the snow, just to <random errand>"
[00:32] <ToyKeeper> I'm pretty fond of Fort Collins.  If I leave, it won't be for Denver, but to somewhere with more humid and consistent weather instead.
[00:32] <Cheri703> my trip in Jnauary was my first time ever in CO, I hope to explore the state more once I move out there :)
[00:33] <Cheri703> I moved to ohio from california when I was a kid (thanks parents), and I have been here almost 20 years, and I have *never* gotten acclimated to the humid summers. I have so much trouble breathing :/
[00:34] <Cheri703> so dry summers will be a welcome change :)
[00:38] <joey> Cheri703: one of the many reasons I moved to Colorado from NY
[00:39] <joey> Cheri703: it was always overcast, humid, and for several weeks a year we had no power or water due to storms
[00:39] <Cheri703> Yeah, my parents live in western NY, and I have been there in july and august, and they don't have a/c >_< SOGGY SOGGY SOGGY and HOT
[00:39] <joey> Cheri703: consequently I used to chop a lot of wood for the wood stove
[00:39] <Cheri703> joey: same for them!
[00:40] <Cheri703> they have a well though, so they're set on water :)
[00:41] <joey> hmm efm...
[00:41] <joey> I recognize those 3 letters
[00:41] <ToyKeeper> Heh, the dry winters here make my sinuses bleed...  and the hot summers make me melt every time I step out of air-conditioned areas.  Our temperature range is from about -20 F to 110 F, and I really prefer about 40 F to 70 F.
[00:42] <joey> efm: sean still around?
[00:42] <ToyKeeper> joey: You're familiar with our local premium Linux service company, Tummy, no?  If so, you probably know efm.
[00:42] <joey> ToyKeeper: actually that's what I love about Colorado
[00:43] <joey> ToyKeeper: yep that's who I thought it was...
[00:43] <ToyKeeper> Colorado springs and falls are nice.  :)
[00:43] <Cheri703> ToyKeeper: yeah, but I've known ohio folks to go out west in the summer, say "hmm, it's probably like...80 with x% humidity, yeah?" and folks go O_O No, it's over 100F, so...it's likely comparable. difference is: evaporative cooling works in dry places, NOT in humid places
[00:43] <joey> I tried to convince Oksana to move to Alaska but she wouldn't have it
[00:43] <joey> then I tried Canada and should wouldn't have it
[00:44] <Cheri703> former roommate moved to alaska, we were talking and she's like "it's only -25f today, it's not bad" I said she was insane
[00:44] <ToyKeeper> Heh, Alaska summers are terrible if you want to go outside.  Hordes of huge mosquitos.
[00:44] <joey> yeah the skeeters are ruthless
[00:45] <joey> they are all the size of half-dollar coins
[00:45] <joey> and they travel in packs like locusts
[00:45] <joey> yay off Monday
[00:46] <ToyKeeper> Oh, hey.  Federal holiday.  Woot!
[00:46] <joey> ok I'm heading out. I think for fun I'm going to work on my sdf.org gopher page
[00:46] <joey> toodles
[00:46] <Cheri703> I'm heading out shortly too. have a good evening folks!
[01:16] <efm> joey: yes, though he's out of town at the moment
[01:17] <efm> Cheri703: what brand of electric trike do you have? I was thinking of swapping my car for one this year
[01:18] <efm> ttyl Cheri703
[01:18] <Cheri703> well, I have a Trident Trikes Spike, and I added a kit from e-bike kit to it. so it's an aftermarket change
[01:18] <Cheri703> (I'm still here, ride hasn't come yet)
[01:18] <efm> ah
[01:18] <Cheri703> I'm hoping to upgrade trike and/or kit at some point soon
[01:18] <efm> Sean got an electric bike last year, and rode it everywhere
[01:18] <Cheri703> you can add e-bike kits to pretty much ANY bike or trike these days
[01:19] <efm> I'm more of a trike speed
[01:19] <efm> hmm
[01:19] <Cheri703> recumbent trikes are THE BEST
[01:19] <Cheri703> LOVE
[01:19] <ToyKeeper> I went on some good rides with Sean on his electric bike.
[01:19] <ToyKeeper> I'm anxious for warmer months to get here so I can ride again.
[01:19] <ToyKeeper> Besides, I have new bike lights to try out when it's warm enough at night to use them.
[01:19] <efm> where I live is so close to the trail system, I could get anywhere in town with an electric
[01:20] <Cheri703> depends on battery, SLA are...crap
[01:20] <efm> It would be so nice to be able to go shopping without a car
[01:20] <ToyKeeper> In the summer, I love to go out riding every night.
[01:20] <Cheri703> also bear in mind that reported mileage will likely be less with a trike: heavier, more rolling resistance with 3 wheels. I was always towing a trailer and live in a hilly town, so I don't get great mileage from mine at the moment.
[01:20] <ToyKeeper> In the winter though...  I have to get by with DDR and other indoor activities.
[01:21] <Cheri703> hoping to either: get a LiFePo4 battery, get a whole new hub WITH LiFePo4 battery, or some other option.
[01:21] <Cheri703> efm: where do you live?
[01:21] <efm> Fort Collins, in the Fossil Creek valley down south
[01:21] <Cheri703> ah, ok :)
[01:22] <efm> I'm only a mile from the second major shopping district, though, so it's eminantly bikeable
[01:22] <Cheri703> nice
[01:22] <efm> oh, the spike folds..thats awesome
[01:23] <Cheri703> efm: most do
[01:23] <Cheri703> icetrikes.co has a nice fold
[01:23] <Cheri703> http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/index_e.html has some nice folders
[01:23] <ToyKeeper> Hmm, I'm not very familiar with LiFePo4 batteries...  though they have come up a few times lately while I searched for Li-Ion cells for LED torches.
[01:23] <Cheri703> ICE trikes are VERY nice
[01:23] <Cheri703> there's actually a dealer outside denver
[01:24] <Cheri703> efm: this one will blow your mind: www.evolvetrikes.com though it's not out yet
[01:24] <Cheri703> ToyKeeper: they're considered the best currently available for e-bikes
[01:24] <Cheri703> great range
[01:24] <Cheri703> efm: if you're curious about recumbents, check out the forums at www.bentrideronline.com
[01:24] <Cheri703> AMAZING resource
[01:24] <Cheri703> what I want eventually is a velomobile :)
[01:25] <ToyKeeper> For now, I'd be happy to find a good skirt guard for my bike.  They're hard to find in the US though.
[01:25] <efm> I just have to head over to http://www.rockymountainrecumbents.com/ some time and do a test ride
[01:26] <Cheri703> ToyKeeper: check out http://letsgorideabike.com/blog/ they have some skirt+bike tips :)
[01:27] <Cheri703> efm: if you were buying, and not in bargain basement price range (that's where the spike is, and where I was when I first got it), I'd HIGHLY recommend at least test riding ICE trikes, they're excellent
[01:27] <Cheri703> though most of the brands that rmr sells are pretty good too :)
[01:27] <efm> thanks Cheri703 I'm not that price constrained, if it's a car replacement (which I'm planning)
[01:27] <Cheri703> hehe, then check out velomobiles :D
[01:28] <Cheri703> they're awesome
[01:28] <efm> the ice trikes look to have a good suspension
[01:28] <Cheri703> sorry, you guys got me on a topic I'm passionate about :)
[01:28] <ToyKeeper> As for a car, I can't really bring myself to care enough to actually buy one instead of using the one my parents gifted me.
[01:28] <efm> HA
[01:28] <Cheri703> efm: yeah, my parents both have ICE Adventure models, I'm eyeing the Sprint
[01:29] <Cheri703> there's a velomobile shell available for the sprint that would be a followup purchase for me :)
[01:29] <Cheri703> http://velomobiles.ca/BorealisV3.html
[01:29] <efm> the video for the ICE Adveture is lovely
[01:29] <Cheri703> the adventure is similar to the sprint, but higher seat
[01:29] <Cheri703> my parents love theirs
[01:29] <Cheri703> I've been lusting after ICE trikes for years
[01:30] <Cheri703> I had a recumbent *bike* years ago (bought it in high school) and realized that the only things I disliked would be solved by having a 3rd wheel, but it took until end of 2011 to finally get myself a trike :) (about 9-10 years later)
[01:32] <Cheri703> alright, well, sorry for rambling about trikes :) my ride is on his way, so I'm off for a while. have a good weekend folks!
[01:37] <efm> you too Cheri703!