[07:51] <magespawn> good morning all
[07:57] <Kilos> morning all
[07:57] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[07:58] <Kilos> what a storm we had last night after midnight
[07:58] <Kilos> methinks hours of lit up skies and 48mm rain
[07:58] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[08:00] <magespawn> sounds like a good old fashioned highveld thunderstrom
[08:00] <magespawn> storm even
[08:00] <Kilos> yeah was wonderful
[08:01] <Kilos> normally it storms and 3mm rain
[08:01] <Kilos> you gonna laugh magespawn 
[08:02] <magespawn> why?
[08:02] <magespawn> another install?
[08:02] <Kilos> that trying to go to wikipedia links smile gave last night crashed my 160g drive
[08:02] <Kilos> hehe
[08:03] <Kilos> says boot sector is messed up after 3 12.10 tries the deleted parts with xp. then 12.10 said drive faulty
[08:03] <Kilos> then tried kde and its just said install finished reboot
[08:04] <magespawn> okay
[08:04] <magespawn> so you running kde now?
[08:05] <Kilos> no on maverick here. had to swop pcs around because i had win 98 on old one going for the floppy boot stiffy thing
[08:06] <magespawn> any luck/progress with the flashing of the bios?
[08:08] <Kilos> i havent tried it yet. downloaded the flash/upgrade zip files from different places and only found the one from taiwan has the .rom file in 
[08:08] <Kilos> hi timkeller 
[08:08] <Kilos> but they give a strange command in the link i got on how to do it
[08:09] <Kilos> the command doesnt match with the .rom or .exe files
[08:09] <Kilos> they use the start of a .exe and add .rom on instead of .exe
[08:10] <Kilos> so that i need to clarify before i try the flash
[08:10] <Symmetria> hrm
[08:10] <Symmetria> sup
[08:11] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[08:11] <Symmetria> so, since my webdesign skills suck ass, and I have need of certain things, time to see if I can figure out how to use a proper webdesign tool like adobe muse ;p
[08:12] <Kilos> hehe never too old to learn
[08:14] <Kilos> oh also magespawn i swopped my /swap and /boot partitions around with kde so maybe it will take unity as well
[08:14] <magespawn> never really liked those all in one software suites, they almost always seem to add extra code
[08:15] <Kilos> what?
[08:16] <magespawn> was responding to Symmetria 
[08:16] <Kilos> whew
[08:16] <Kilos> hehe
[08:20] <Symmetria> magespawn heh, agreed, but for a non-coder
[08:20] <Symmetria> they make life simple
[08:31] <magespawn> Symmetria: is that liquid cooling you have on the machine?
[08:31] <Symmetria> yeah
[08:31] <Symmetria> the pc-cooler.jpg image?
[08:31] <Symmetria> ;p its awesomeness
[08:32] <magespawn> does the radiator have its own fan?
[08:32] <Symmetria> lol, not quite as awesome as the other project a friend of mine and I are attempting though, but lol, thats more long term, we're busy building an entirely new type of pc case for another machine Im putting together as an experiment
[08:32] <Symmetria> magespawn 2 x 120mm fans 
[08:32] <Symmetria> on the outside of the radiator
[08:33] <magespawn> thats the first one i have seen for inside the case
[08:33] <Symmetria> which are software controllable (the one cable to that cooler actually runs to a USB interface off the motherboard)
[08:33] <magespawn> all othe radiator have gone outside
[08:33] <magespawn> coolant?
[08:33] <Symmetria> prophelyn gycol I think its called
[08:33] <Symmetria> but its an entirely sealed unit
[08:34] <magespawn> similar to stuff in cars
[08:34] <Symmetria> heh magespawn *grin* wait till you see our new fun project if we get it right, we're effectively building a pc into a giant salt water fishtank ;p
[08:35] <magespawn> saw something similar
[08:35] <Kilos> hehe
[08:35] <Symmetria> the pc itself, the plan is in clear plastic etc to have the thing completely waterproofed and suspended in the fish tank with pretty lights etc, and tube the outlets to the outside of the tank, but whats special about this, we're looking at using the fish tank water itself as a coolant as well
[08:35] <magespawn> they filled the tank with non-conductive oil covering all the components
[08:37] <Symmetria> dammit
[08:37] <Symmetria> got disconnected
[08:37] <Symmetria> so if you said anything since 10:36 I missed it
[08:37] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh magespawn in theory, we can actually circulate the water in the tank through the cooler pump
[08:38] <magespawn> http://forums.pcformat.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=36274
[08:38] <Symmetria> and since you have such a large quantity of water in a fish tank 
[08:39] <magespawn> do you have and condensation problems?
[08:39] <magespawn> on your machine
[08:39] <Symmetria> nope
[08:39] <Symmetria> not at all
[08:40] <magespawn> might be a problem down here, how cold does it run at?
[08:41] <Symmetria> http://196.32.210.12/machine.png
[08:41] <Symmetria> sorry got disconnected again ;p something up with my net connection
[08:41] <Symmetria> heh, thats OC'ed slightly less than what I have it now, I pushed that to 4ghz with no problem since then
[08:42] <Symmetria> but that machine.png was a heat test I ran, it had been running completely maxed like that for an hour when I took that screenshot
[08:42] <magespawn> so temp is stable but not actually cold perse?
[08:43] <Symmetria> yeah
[08:43] <Symmetria> you don't wanna run 2 cold because if you do you get condensation
[08:43] <Symmetria> the idea is to keep the temp between 25 and 50 dependant on load and heavy overclocking etc 
[08:44] <magespawn> yes here in hluhluwe anything cooler than 20-22 degrees gets condensation
[08:44] <Symmetria> heh, I went with that cooling unit to solve a specific problem, namely, machine was overheating badly when doing certain extremely cpu intensive things
[08:44] <Symmetria> (video editing in AE for example)
[08:53] <Kilos> wbb
[09:09] <magespawn> Symmetria: how do write a ipv6 address with a port number?
[10:03] <inetpro> Maaz_: tell Kilos we had 28mm
[10:03] <Maaz_> inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[10:42] <Symmetria> heh
[10:43] <Symmetria> afrinic is gonna hate me again
[10:43] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/proposals ;p
[12:29] <Kilos> dont laugh magespawn
[12:30] <Kilos> hi superflyand others
[12:30] <Kilos> ai!
[12:30] <Kilos> stupid quassel
[13:00] <magespawn> laugh at what Kilos?
[13:00] <Vince-0> surp
[13:01] <Kilos> lol
[13:01] <Kilos> thought if kde can work so must unity
[13:01] <Kilos> 2 installs no modem
[13:02] <Kilos> 3rd install says drive faulty
[13:02] <Kilos> so back on kde 12.04
[13:02] <Kilos> lo Vince-0
[13:03] <Kilos> and quassels pling instead of xchats bloep
[13:04] <Kilos> and gotta leave it on an unfocussed window
[13:04] <Kilos> grrr
[13:05] <magespawn> ahh well 
[13:15] <Kilos> lol
[13:20]  * nlsthzn installed Kubuntu 12.04 then added the backports and installed KDE 4.10 and now I have no window borders >.<
[14:12] <Kilos> whew tim got connection probs
[14:20] <Squirm> slight issues
[14:42] <Symmetria> heh
[14:43] <Symmetria> for those of you who are interested in what is going on on the internet
[14:43] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/proposals/index.php?title=1._Resolution_as_regards_AfriNIC_interaction_with_the_ITU
[16:02] <Kilos> magespawn: coffee on
[16:02] <Kilos> ai!
[16:02] <Kilos> Maaz_: coffee on
[16:02]  * Maaz_ washes some mugs
[16:06] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:08] <Kilos> Maaz_: ty
[16:08] <Maaz_> You are welcome Kilos
[17:02] <Kilos> timkeller: ping
[17:02] <timkeller> Kilos: pong
[17:02] <Kilos> you got probs
[17:02] <timkeller> Am I bouncing a lot?
[17:02] <Kilos> bad connection there hey
[17:03] <Kilos> yeah in and out
[17:03] <timkeller> Shouldn't... that's weird. I'm behind a bouncer.
[17:03] <timkeller> I'll find out
[17:03] <Kilos> maybe its ok now
[17:03] <timkeller> Want me to drop so the channel doesn't get spammed?
[17:03] <Kilos> lets check
[17:03] <Kilos> no man
[17:03] <timkeller> Cool :)
[17:03] <Kilos> maybe its because you didnt say hi guys
[17:03] <Kilos> hehe
[17:05] <Kilos> ill tell you if it starts again
[17:05] <Cantide> '<
[17:06] <Kilos> yo Cantide
[17:06] <Cantide> hello :)
[17:06] <Cantide> Kilos, CanStudy is going to make a brief reappearance >.<
[17:07]  * nlsthzn just got windows to have the same behaviour as linux in that a windows doesn't need to have focus to be able to scroll in it etc... just the mouse to hover over it... needed an extra app however :/
[17:09] <Kilos> sell it to them nlsthzn
[17:10] <Kilos> $49
[17:10] <nlsthzn> lol, well I didn't make it :p I just installed it
[17:10] <Kilos> ah
[17:10]  * nlsthzn couldn't program himself out of work so bad I am 
[17:10] <Kilos> a little knowlege is dangerous
[17:11] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ? All well in ZA?
[17:11] <Kilos> so is a lot
[17:11] <Kilos> yeah good ty nlsthzn,and you?
[17:11] <Kilos> meeting monday night hey?
[17:11]  * nlsthzn got the night off, so as I worked last nioght and working the next I will be doing an all nighter.
[17:11] <Kilos> ai!
[17:11] <nlsthzn> will be working uncle Kilos so no meeting for me
[17:12] <Kilos> aw
[17:12] <Kilos> setup a skelm pc there
[17:14] <nlsthzn> :) they have blocked almost all sites so no luck on the net from there now
[17:16] <zeref> weo weo
[17:16] <zeref> pewp pew
[17:17] <nlsthzn> and now I have multiple desktops too
[17:17] <Cantide> zeref, Kung Pow?
[17:18] <zeref> Cantide: :D
[17:18] <Cantide> ^^;;
[17:18] <nlsthzn> "Swinging my chain"
[17:18] <Cantide> I watched it recently
[17:18] <Cantide> haha
[17:18] <zeref> + got my GTX 660
[17:19] <nlsthzn> nice
[17:19] <Cantide> I'm falling, you're falling~ we're faallllllinng
[17:19] <Cantide> whale
[17:19] <Cantide> zeref, very cool :)
[17:19] <nlsthzn> that movie is full of win
[17:19] <Cantide> and i see steam was finally released - so it's a good time to test it out :)
[17:19]  * nlsthzn goes looking for it to watch later
[17:20] <zeref> going to test it with black ops tomight
[17:20] <nlsthzn> will murder the game
[17:20] <zeref> it look like some sort of car engine
[17:20] <zeref> *looks
[17:20] <nlsthzn> :) takes up two slots right?
[17:21] <zeref> 1
[17:21] <zeref> lemme take pic
[17:21] <nlsthzn> fan not that big then?
[17:21] <zeref> 2 fans
[17:22] <nlsthzn> many times a second slot is useless as the fans and the heat sink is to big
[17:24] <zeref> hmmm
[17:25] <zeref> http://imgur.com/4NwbAT2
[17:29] <nlsthzn> so anybody watched the harlem shake vids on youtube :p
[17:30] <nlsthzn> zeref, nice card
[17:30] <nlsthzn> lots of heat to be removed right there
[17:30] <smile4ever> hi :D
[17:32] <Cantide> nice card!!
[17:33] <Cantide> hi smile4ever :)
[17:33] <smile4ever> hi :)
[17:33] <smile4ever> Cantide: have you seen my user styles for Firefox/Chrome? :)
[17:33] <Cantide> can't say I have >_>
[17:34] <smile4ever> they are at http://userstyles.org/users/166121 :)
[17:34] <smile4ever> ^^
[17:34] <smile4ever> I really hate some sites ><
[17:34] <smile4ever> but I like their content
[17:35] <smile4ever> that's why I wrote some user styles
[17:35] <smile4ever> :)
[17:35] <zeref> ta
[17:36] <Cantide> cool~
[17:36] <Cantide> i hate flash / adverts
[17:36] <Cantide> so minimalistic sites attract me more :)
[17:49] <Kilos> hey nlsthznyou using quassel or xchat in kde
[17:54] <smile4ever> Cantide: glad you like it :D
[17:54] <Kilos> hi smile4ever
[17:54] <smile4ever> hi Kilos :)
[18:23] <magespawn> evening all
[18:36] <charl_> hi smile4ever, magespawn 
[18:37] <charl_> how's it going this fine evening
[18:37] <magespawn> hey charl_ 
[18:37] <charl_> we have a meeting monday?
[18:38] <magespawn> hey smile4ever 
[18:38] <smile4ever> hi charl_ & magespawn
[18:38] <smile4ever> :)
[18:38] <smile4ever> charl_: very good! :)
[18:38] <smile4ever> and you?
[18:38] <magespawn> charl_: i think so, Kilos was reminding everyone about it earlier
[18:38] <charl_> good, i just had a light cold or something the last few days, but it seems to have passed now
[18:38] <charl_> magespawn: cool, not that i ever contribute much to those though :(
[18:39] <charl_> not being in south africa might have something to do with it :)
[18:41] <magespawn> here is a bit of news
[18:41] <Symmetria> for anyone interested in Internet governance stuff
[18:41] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/proposals/index.php?title=1._Resolution_as_regards_AfriNIC_interaction_with_the_ITU
[18:42] <magespawn> according to popular mechanics pastebin is a hacker code sharing site
[18:42] <charl_> lol
[18:42] <charl_> let's face it, it has been used a lot by anonymous lately, not that it was the originally intended purpose
[18:42] <Cantide> good night 'o'
[18:43] <charl_> but i don't like pastebin much anymore, it is too full of ads
[18:43] <magespawn> do mide the discriptiin really, just the negative association of 'hacker'
[18:43] <charl_> the width of the text area is very limited
[18:43] <charl_> oh i see, but that is a standard confusion issue
[18:44] <magespawn> indeed
[18:44] <magespawn> and in a mag dedicated to hacking of one sort or another
[18:44] <charl_> i always follow this iptv show called hak5 and a few shows ago darren kitchen (one of the hosts) spoke about some of what they had to deal with
[18:44] <charl_> they apparently had trouble securing a home loan at one point due to their association with "hacking"
[18:45] <magespawn> i watch them too.
[18:46] <charl_> good show, i have been following them since the end of season 1
[18:46] <charl_> i used to travel a lot so couldn't always follow them immediately but i would go back and watch the episodes later
[18:47] <charl_> that's the biggest advantage for me of iptv personally, the fact that i don't have to use a video recorder
[18:47] <magespawn> thats the best way to watch i find
[18:47] <magespawn> yup watch on demand
[18:47] <magespawn> wonder if timkeller has thrown up yet
[18:47] <charl_> yes and then people go and buy these expensive dvr machines for it
[18:47] <charl_> he's on a terrible connection
[18:48] <charl_> oh it's a mweb capetown netblock
[18:48] <magespawn> funny how pppl like to stay with what they know
[18:48] <charl_> i guess it's an obvious thing really, people learn incrementally
[18:48] <charl_> rinse, lather, repeat, and most people simply don't know any better
[18:48] <magespawn> i thought they sorted their problems earlier
[18:49] <charl_> could be the last-mile connection
[18:49] <magespawn> indeed like trying to get people to pay to read/watch content
[18:50] <magespawn> have you heard of techdirt?
[18:50] <charl_> not really, what is that?
[18:51] <magespawn> blog/website about legal/internet/copyright etc
[18:51] <charl_> oh yeah i just searched it up on google
[18:51] <magespawn> interesting reading
[18:51] <charl_> the thing is that the people who are trying to extort us for money are not content authors
[18:51] <magespawn> indeed
[18:51] <charl_> i want to support authors making great content, not large monopolies
[18:51] <magespawn> just the gate keepes
[18:51] <magespawn> yes
[18:52] <charl_> in the meantime, the monopolies are using the authors as an excuse to extort people
[18:52] <charl_> have you heard about what happened in finland last year? lemme find the link
[18:53] <charl_> http://torrentfreak.com/police-raid-9-year-old-pirate-bay-girl-confiscate-winnie-the-pooh-laptop-121122/
[18:53] <charl_> http://torrentfreak.com/raided-pirate-bay-kid-came-to-save-us-all-121125/
[18:53] <charl_> http://torrentfreak.com/father-of-raided-9-year-old-pirate-bay-girl-settles-case-for-300-euros-121129/
[18:53]  * magespawn goes to read
[18:58] <magespawn> charl_: and these are in no way isolated cases
[19:00] <charl_> yup unfortunately
[19:00] <charl_> this is just one that got some media attention :)
[19:01] <magespawn> techdirt covers the same sort of stuff state side
[19:01] <charl_> good
[19:01] <charl_> we need to get the word out :)
[21:15] <Squirm> lol timkeller 
[21:36] <nlsthzn> still going at it I see
[21:40] <Squirm> indeed
[22:35] <nlsthzn> timkeller, you are phasing in and out of existance