[00:18] <Makertronic> Hello, is there somewhere I can see a list of the programs included with Xubuntu 12.10
[00:22] <Makertronic> Is there anyone here?
[01:10] <NXTGeek1944> if I wanted to help the dev team out, what should I do, or is there a better channel for this?
[01:11] <Unit193> There's http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ and #xubuntu-devel is the development channel.
[01:11] <ianharper> Hi!, i can't figure out how to set vlc player as default. (12.10)
[01:12] <Cheri703> ianharper: application menu > settings manager > preferred applications
[01:12] <Cheri703> ah, just kidding >_<
[01:12] <Cheri703> no video in there...
[01:12] <Cheri703> disregard >_>
[01:12] <ianharper> derp :) was in the midlle of typen ha
[01:12] <Unit193> update-alternatives it is.
[01:12] <NXTGeek1944> Unit193: Thanks!
[01:13] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[01:13] <ianharper> is it possible?
[01:14] <Cheri703> one way (might not be THE way) would be to go to a video file, right click "open with other application" then click "use as default for this type of file" or whatever it says there
[01:14] <Unit193> I generally purge parole which does it, but you can also just set it with the update-alternatives command.
[01:15] <Cheri703> Unit193: that looks complicated
[01:15] <Unit193> Kind of, but not too bad.
[01:16] <ianharper> Nothin, just open's.
[01:16] <ianharper> ah my bad found it!
[01:17] <ianharper> ty cheri
[01:17] <Cheri703> sure :) it's a start
[01:21] <GridCube> ianharper, on preferences, go to the MIME Type editor, change application/octet-stream to what ever you want
[01:22] <GridCube> also you could filter by video and change them all, but that should suffice
[02:13] <Matthias_> I would like to install Xubuntu onto a 2004 laptop, and boot/install from the CD. How do I make an install CD?
[02:15] <genii-around> Matthias_: Generally, to download the Xubuntu iso file and then to use a cd burning application in your current operating system to make the cd
[02:15] <Matthias_> I downloaded the package (about 630 MB) from the website here, but I'm not sure where the ISO file is.
[02:17] <genii-around> Matthias_:  It all depends on where most things you download end up... I think on Windows usually goes to Downloads folder or maybe My Documents
[02:18] <Matthias_> Sorry, I should be more specific. I know where the whole bunch of stuff went, and I unpacked it using some unzipper. I'm now looking at it in PowerISO. But I don't see an ISO file. I do see two BIN files.
[02:21] <Doctor_Vex> its one file. either xubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso or xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:21] <g16> Then you have downloaded the wrong thing.
[02:22] <Matthias_> Okay, I will look for the ISO file. Thank you for your time!
[02:23] <Doctor_Vex> where did you download it?
[02:26] <Matthias_> I got it from the link on this page that says "get Xubuntu"
[02:26] <Matthias_> under "get started"
[02:27] <ShiftedView> Greetings. I don't suppose anyone here is familiar with the nvidia drivers, and the install steps thereof. I'm having a horribly difficult time getting them set up correctly under xubuntu 12.10.
[02:27] <Doctor_Vex> then you should definately have a iso file
[02:28] <Matthias_> Using power ISO, I sorted the files by file type, and there were no .iso files.
[02:28] <Matthias_> I am trying another file download currently of 10.04.2 with the .iso in the name of the file.
[02:28] <Doctor_Vex> have you by any chance enabled the "hide known filetypes" "feature" in windows?
[02:30] <Matthias_> I don't think so.
[02:30] <Matthias_> But I do know that I do NOT show hidden files right now.
[02:31] <Doctor_Vex> its not a hidden one
[02:31] <Matthias_> How would I check that?
[02:32] <Doctor_Vex> do files on your system show extensions?
[02:32] <Doctor_Vex> like .jpg .exe .bmp
[02:32] <Matthias_> yes
[02:32] <Doctor_Vex> then its not enabled
[02:32] <Matthias_> (windows 7, btw)
[02:33] <Doctor_Vex> all you need is the place where the .iso  saved and a program to burn it
[02:33] <Matthias_> I also just finished a download of the file xubunu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso, and I can't find the iso file
[02:34] <Doctor_Vex> windows should be able too with a right click on it and select burn to disc
[02:35] <Matthias_> So the entire package of info is the iso, and then i just burn that to a CD?
[02:35] <Doctor_Vex> the iso i a image of the disk you will burn
[02:36] <Doctor_Vex> its already a finished CD, except not on CD
[02:36] <Doctor_Vex> a bruning program will recognise it and burn it 1:1 on disk
[02:37] <Doctor_Vex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image
[02:38] <Matthias_> with what program should I burn the .iso file? Will the basic windows burner do it>?
[02:39] <Doc_Vex> now do a Windows + F and search for xubunu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso
[02:39] <Doc_Vex> whops i see a typo there
[02:39] <Matthias_> I know it's in the downloads folder
[02:41] <Doc_Vex> then open your burning program and select "burn ISO image"
[02:41] <Doc_Vex> its really easy
[02:42] <Doc_Vex> http://www.poweriso.com/tutorials/burn-iso-file.htm
[02:42] <Matthias_> I think I was confused in the fact that the .iso file is the whole thing packaged up. I was looking inside the .iso package for an .iso file, which I now realize is silly
[02:42] <Matthias_> Thank you for getting me straightened out!
[02:43] <Doc_Vex> yeah its weird when a program opens its contents
[02:46] <Doc_Vex> then leave it in the drive and boot. if boot from disk is enabled it will give you a menu
[02:48] <ShiftedView> Anyone for helping with my nvidia problem? Whenever I attempt to install it, it just leaves my system in a very low res, and it doesn't even load the nvidia driver.
[02:49] <Matthias_> Quick last question: Can I burn onto a DVD-R disc, or does it have to be one of the smaller ones?
[02:49] <Doc_Vex> any disc your drive can read
[02:51] <Doc_Vex> i burned it on a normal CD-R 700 MB CD
[02:52] <ShiftedView> Attempted installation from the terminal (xserver still active), the Ubuntu software center, and the virtual console (xserver inactive) using the install script provided by nvidia's website. All attempts have been on fresh installs of ubuntu 12.10, 12.04, xubuntu 12.10, and 12.04. All have failed with the same result. Low res, and driver not being loaded.
[02:52] <genii-around> ShiftedView: I'm not in Xubuntu right now, but basic commandline would be: sudo nano /etc/default/grub and put a line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset", save that and exit, then: sudo update-grub && sudo update-initramfs -u && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dkms linux-source linux-headers-generic build-essential && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  Then: sudo X -configure | sudo tee /etc/X11/xorg.conf      then sudo nano
[02:52] <genii-around> /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the line under Section "Device"   where it says like Driver  "nouveau"  (might not say nouveau but fbdev or anything else)... change it from nouveau or fbdev or whatever to nvidia, save.
[02:54] <ShiftedView> Hm.. Thanks, I'll give that a stab right now.
[02:54] <genii-around> ShiftedView: If you already have nvidia-current installed then make the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   in the above to sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[02:55] <genii-around> ShiftedView: If you used the Nvidia websites .run file, before you do any of the above, you first need to do: sudo sh ./NVIDIA_FILENAME_HERE.sh --uninstall
[02:56] <ShiftedView> This is a fresh install. As running the .run file resulted in a more catastrophic failure than normal. xserver just plain refused to start after that.
[02:56] <genii-around> heh, .run rather, not .sh ... but you get the idea
[02:58] <ShiftedView> I don't understand why the drivers seem so broken, now. I've never had this problem before.
[03:01] <ShiftedView> I appreciate the help though. This driver has been a thorn in my side for quite a while. All I wanted to do was install steam, and try out TF2 on linux.
[03:04] <pil> подскажите канал хубунту русскоязычный
[03:05] <genii-around> ShiftedView: I'm only going to be around for another 8-10 minutes. Please keep me posted to progress :)
[03:06] <ShiftedView> Unfortunately, this fresh install decided that it wanted to update everything. Better to be safe than sorry, so I'll do the updates first.
[03:06] <ShiftedView> But if your steps don't work, I'll be sure to pop in some other time.
[03:07] <genii-around> ShiftedView: I'm usually in 10-6 EST weekdays
[03:07] <ShiftedView> Ah, wonderful. Same time zone.
[03:09] <ShiftedView> Hm.. One last thing. Do I have to take any alternate steps if my laptop is running nvidia optimus technology? If I recall, said technology actually passes my gtx660m's video output through the intel hd 4000, to be delivered to my screen.
[03:09] <genii-around> ShiftedView: For the X -configure command, you may need to exit to the login, do ctrl-alt-f1, and do first: sudo stop lightdm          then after the X -configure   do sudo start lightdm      then alt-f7 to return to login
[03:10] <genii-around> ShiftedView: I'm not familiar with that card, but if it uses the twin GPU setup you might need Bumblebee
[03:11] <ShiftedView> The gtx660m is a discreet graphics chip intended to be used for programs that demand more power. Most of the time, my Intel core i7 is doing the work. Obviously, this was more intended for Windows OSes. It might be the source of my issues.
[03:13] <genii-around> ShiftedView: So later you may want to look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-bumblebee-in-ubuntu-12-1012-04-using-ppa.html
[03:13] <ShiftedView> All righty. I'll give that a look as well.
[03:29] <ShiftedView> I managed to run into issues again. sudo X -configure | sudo tee /etc/X11/xorg.conf throws an error at me.
[03:30] <ShiftedView> Attempting to move on to the next step, just shows me an empty xorg.conf
[03:35] <well_laid_lawn> it's always helpful to mention what the error is
[03:35] <well_laid_lawn> just saying there's an error doesn't give ppl anything to work with
[03:36] <ShiftedView> I understand that. I'm looking for something to write it down with, so I can go back and replicate it.
[03:37] <well_laid_lawn> afaik X-configure write to a file in the directory the terminal is in - let it do that then move the file to /etc/X11
[03:41] <ShiftedView> The error is as follows: "The number of created screens does not match the number of detected devices." "Configuration failed." "Server terminated with error (2), Closing log file." Where each quoted item is on it's own line.
[03:42] <ShiftedView> It is the command "sudo X -configure" That is throwing this error.
[03:44] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like you should be using bumblebee or something
[03:45] <genii-around> ShiftedView: Here is a pastebin of my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1661112/
[03:47] <ShiftedView> Ah, thanks. Though, I'll have to check if it's even necessary. If bumblebee is working as intended, it might not be.
[03:49] <ShiftedView> Hm.. nope, bumblebee isn't playing nice. shift@shift-Linux:~$ optirun glxspheres
[03:49] <ShiftedView> [ 5458.185194] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0.  Please [ 5458.185265] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[03:54] <genii-around> Weird. I wonder why pastebin plain-text download requires Launchpad login first
[03:54] <ShiftedView> Not sure either. Seems harmless enough.
[03:55] <genii-around> ( tried wget pastebin-address/plain and got html openid login page downloaded instead)
[03:56] <ShiftedView> Heh. Well, I slapped in that xorg config. Now lets see what happens.
[03:58]  * genii-around crosses fingers and checks the clock
[03:59] <ShiftedView> Hm.. Good news is, the resolution didn't decide to implode.
[04:00] <ShiftedView> Now to check if the nvidia driver is actually loaded. I've completely forgotten how to do that.
[04:00] <genii-around> lsmod | grep nvidia
[04:01] <ShiftedView> Right, thanks.
[04:01] <ShiftedView> nvidia              11257759  0
[04:02] <ShiftedView> nvidia is red.
[04:02] <ShiftedView> That doesn't look good to me.
[04:03] <ShiftedView> Doesn't look like it's being used by anything either.
[04:04] <TIMAA> Im on an aspire one acer netbook and I have a mouse flickering problem.
[04:05] <ShiftedView> This is very odd.. lspci can see my video card just fine.
[04:12] <genii-around> ShiftedView: Likely on the Optimus the Intel is used as default, then you need some facility like Bumblebee to swap it before the underlying nvidia driver has something to work with
[04:13] <genii-around> But this is just my pet theory
[04:13] <ShiftedView> Bumblebee isn't behaving with me though. It can't initialize the card.
[04:19] <genii-around> Can't seem to find a manpage for optirun :/   ... can you pastbin the output of: optirun --help   ?
[04:19] <ShiftedView> Sure.
[04:20] <ShiftedView> http://pastebin.com/yVMNcdwk
[04:21] <genii-around> ShiftedView: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting   seems to indicate you need bumblebee-nvidia installed if using proprietary driver.. does apt-cache policy bumblebee-nvidia     show that it's installed?
[04:22] <ShiftedView> Yes, it does.
[04:25] <genii-around> ShiftedView: I'm at an immediate loss. Other than to suggest perhaps pastebin results of: optirun --debug    and then maybe show it to the folks in #bumblebee channel
[04:26] <ShiftedView> I'm considering downgrading to a previous version of ubuntu. Pre-unity.
[04:26] <genii-around> I'm not sure it will do much about your video driver....
[04:27] <holstein> i have an ion
[04:27] <ShiftedView> Perhaps not. But I've heard some success stories from it. So, I'm willing to give it a shot.
[04:27] <genii-around> holstein: Is that another of those hybrid cards ?
[04:28] <ShiftedView> Not like I'm losing anything on this fresh system.
[04:28] <holstein> a relevant nvidia eon
[04:28] <holstein> one*
[04:28] <holstein> i wouldnt go back.. the driver support is likely not to get any better
[04:28] <holstein> you are using the latest ppa for graphics drivers ShiftedView ?
[04:29] <ShiftedView> As far as I know.
[04:29] <holstein> TIMAA: i would suggest tryiing different graphics drivers as well.. what hardware to you have?
[04:29] <holstein> ShiftedView: ?
[04:29] <holstein> ShiftedView: its not in by default
[04:30] <genii-around> ShiftedView: Does ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/      show the x-swat  or xorg-edgers ppa there?
[04:30] <holstein> ShiftedView: since valve is doing steam, support is typically better for proprietary cards
[04:30] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[04:30] <ShiftedView> holstein: Yeah, I'm really excited about valve's support for 'nix.
[04:30] <holstein> i would expect it to be worse goint backwards
[04:30] <holstein> unity has nothing to do with your graphics driver support, or xubuntu
[04:31] <ShiftedView> genii-around: I'm seeing x-swat in there.
[04:31] <holstein> ShiftedView: what is the issue?
[04:31] <ShiftedView> Can't get the nvidia drivers to work no matter what I try.
[04:32] <holstein> im not using bumblebee.. ill link what im using
[04:32] <genii-around> holstein: He gets: [ 5458.185194] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0.  Please [ 5458.185265] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[04:32] <holstein> https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[04:32] <holstein> i have tested to see that i can reboot into the nvidia hardware, but i never do.. not even when im ruing steam
[04:33] <genii-around> I ❤ Asus
[04:33] <holstein> yeah... i like these little eee's
[04:33] <ShiftedView> Personally, I'm running on a Lenovo y580.
[04:34] <holstein> ShiftedView: if the hardware is the same, you can use that information
[04:35] <holstein> ShiftedView: when you had a fresh install, what did you do first?
[04:35] <holstein> i would fresh install, and install the driver that is suggested, and try the nvidia hardware
[04:36] <ShiftedView> I did a sudo apt-get update, and let the system do all it's updates. Then I restarted.
[04:36] <ShiftedView> Also, the latest iterations of ubuntu do not automatically suggest a driver to you, it seems. I've never had that pop up in these recent releases.
[04:37] <holstein> !ati
[04:37] <holstein> ^^ you can read that as well
[04:38] <holstein> what im getting at is, of you added that ppa and the bumblebee hack first, you might have broken it with some experimental magic that is not working with your device
[04:39] <ShiftedView> I've only tried bumblebee recently. In my previous attempts, I've attempted to install the driver straight from nvidia's site, or through the ubuntu software center. All on fresh installs, mind you.
[04:40] <holstein> ShiftedView: just checking...
[04:41] <holstein> ShiftedView: can you return it?
[04:41] <ShiftedView> Hm?
[04:41] <holstein> the device... return it and get something with linux support
[04:42] <ShiftedView> That's not an option.
[04:42] <holstein> for me, i just wanted to make sure the nvidia was disabled, so it wouldnt be draining my battery
[04:43] <holstein> is that an option? or are you literally in need of more graphic power than the intel chip is providing?
[04:43] <genii-around> ShiftedView: Is there any setting in the bios to make it prefer the nvidia gpu over the intel gpu? Like if you turn off power saving on it or something
[04:43] <holstein> have you tried 12.04?
[04:43] <ShiftedView> I got this laptop for gaming. Unfortunately, it came with windows 8.
[04:43] <holstein> ShiftedView: you can get gaming machines from linux resellers such as system76
[04:43] <ShiftedView> genii-around: I've looked around in the bios. The only option is hybrid, or intel only.
[04:43] <TIMAA> holstein: intel inagrated video card
[04:44] <ShiftedView> holstein: This laptop was a gift from my father. I can't really afford anything on my own.
[04:44] <holstein> TIMAA: i would still try "safe graphics mode" from a live cd.. i would also try as a different user. i would say if this is a new occurance, or something that has always been that way
[04:44] <ShiftedView> holstein: And, yeah. I need more power than what intel hd 4000 can provide. The gtx660m was really attractive.
[04:45] <holstein> ShiftedView: sure, but do you literally need it?
[04:45] <holstein> like, you've played a game, and its just crapped out?
[04:45] <ShiftedView> Yeah.
[04:45] <holstein> i think you will have to decide what you want to do.. what would i do? try with ubuntu 12.04, since thats going to be the most supported by steam
[04:46] <holstein> then, you'll need to decide if you just want to game in windows or what
[04:46] <genii-around> ShiftedView: http://askubuntu.com/questions/178517/how-do-i-get-bumblebee-working-with-a-gtx-660m
[04:46] <ShiftedView> I'd like to be able to game in linux. I want the support to be there. But if people like me keep quitting linux at the first sign of difficulty, then the big companies will never support it better, because the customer base isn't there.
[04:47] <holstein> ShiftedView: and you can game in linux.. the issue you have is hardware support
[04:47] <holstein> ShiftedView: support is there.. just apparently not for that device
[04:47] <holstein> its not linux that will or can give you that support
[04:48] <holstein> ShiftedView: the company is partnering with steam to do some nice things.. but if you really want to make a different, vote with your wallet
[04:48] <holstein> buy machine with linux.. thats what will get "big companies" to notice
[04:49] <holstein> that being said, what should you do?
[04:49] <holstein> try 12.04.. that is what steam states it supports
[04:49] <ShiftedView> My financial situation doesn't allow it. I have this, and so I'm going to do my best to make it work.
[04:49] <holstein> i would try a steam forum, or steam mailing list
[04:49] <holstein> ShiftedView: xubuntu, nor ubuntu, nor canonical nor linux is allowed to provide you support really, though we try
[04:50] <holstein> ShiftedView: there is an opensource nvidia driver as well.. have you tried that?
[04:50] <holstein> i have never had much luck with it...
[04:50] <ShiftedView> Isn't that the default? Nouveau?
[04:51] <ShiftedView> 2d acceleration only, I'm afraid. If that's what you mean.
[04:51] <genii-around> At any rate, I think if there's any hope currently to get your card working with bumblebee right now, that askbuntu page might help, perhaps with an enquiry or two in #bumblebee
[04:51] <holstein> ShiftedView: i thought there was a 3d one...
[04:51] <ShiftedView> I can't say I've heard of such a thing.
[04:52] <ShiftedView> genii-around: I'll be sure to do so.
[04:52] <holstein> assuming you need bumblebee
[04:52] <holstein> and you dont necessarily
[04:52] <ShiftedView> What I require is 3d acceleration from my nvidia card.
[04:52] <holstein> ShiftedView: sure. and if the open one doesnt provide that for your card, then dont worry with it, but if you havent tried it, you can
[04:54] <holstein> ShiftedView: this is something like what you tried? http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/
[04:55] <ShiftedView> No, but I'll take a look at that next.
[04:55] <holstein> the suggestion was, from a fresh install..
[04:56] <ShiftedView> Really. If that's the case, I should prepare my ubuntu 12.04 disk.
[04:57] <holstein> i would use 12.04
[04:57] <genii-around> Well, I've been here far too long. An 8 hour workday then staying at work after that on a Friday night 7 hours longer than i intended to....   Goodnight, and good luck
[04:58] <holstein> genii-around: cheers!
[04:58] <genii-around> :)
[07:37] <bullgard4> Where is the colour saturation control to be found?
[07:40] <well_laid_lawn> normally ot's a button on the front of the monitor
[07:43] <bullgard4> well_laid_lawn: Normally a laptop computer does not have a button on the front of the monitor.
[07:45] <bullgard4> I am here in the #xubuntu channel, and I am asking for a Xubuntu setting.
[07:46] <bazhang> bullgard4, and answers are not always available
[07:48] <well_laid_lawn> heh. how was I to know you are on a laptop?
[07:49] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/102440/setting-a-greyscale-or-monochrome-color-scheme   <----- bullgard4 have a read
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> some more reading - http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/75216.aspx
[08:09] <bullgard4> bazhang, well_laid_lawn: Thank you very much for proving me these two interesting articles.
[08:10] <well_laid_lawn> bullgard4:  you're welcome.
[08:21] <Bsadowski1> I have a question. How come Xubuntu isn't listed on Wubi's Desktop Environment selection?
[08:23] <Bsadowski1> Just googled it, nevermind. :)
[08:24] <ortogonal> I've install Xubuntu 12.10 and get the grub error message error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found
[08:44] <well_laid_lawn> ortogonal:  this might help - file
[08:44] <well_laid_lawn> file
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> oops weechat is playing up - one min
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169600/fix-grub2-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> there we go ortogonal ^^
[09:26] <gunnican> Hello everyone. Two days ago I have installed security updates and since then I cannot install any package from software center. When I click "install" simply nothing happens. I also tried "sudo apt-get upgrade" command but still no software is installed
[09:28] <well_laid_lawn> tried   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   ?
[09:29] <gunnican> yes
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> what happened?
[09:31] <gunnican> nothing. When I click install nothing happens.. no error..
[09:31] <well_laid_lawn> I suggested a terminal command. no clicking involved in that
[09:33] <bullgard4> What is a suitable keyboard shortcut to invoke the Applications menu if I do not have a Super (="Windows") key on my keyboard?
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> right click the desktop should show it
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> you can edit it in the keyboard shortcuts if you like
[09:34] <gunnican> @ <well_laid_lawn> Yes I see. I mean after giving the command to terminal there had been some security upgrades but the software packages are not dowloaded
[09:35] <gunnican> @<well_laid_lawn> nor is there any change in the software window
[09:35] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> I have no further suggetions gunnican sorry
[09:36] <gunnican> Okay, thanks anyway
[09:37] <knome> gunnican, "software packages are not downloaded"?
[09:37] <knome> gunnican, can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:37] <knome> !pastebin | gunnican
[09:40] <gunnican> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1662196/
[11:15] <Aristot_xubuntu> salut à tous nouveau venu sur linux après quelques difficultés
[11:18] <Aristot_xubuntu> bien. je fini l'installation et je repasse ++
[11:20] <Zelouille> !fr | Aristot_xubuntu
[11:26] <Aristot_xubuntu> oups sorry. Hi all i'm juste a new linux user. i finish this install and coming back see you
[13:18] <DemonWitch> QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme
[13:18] <DemonWitch> how do i fix this?
[13:36] <Maangoca> buenos dias
[13:36] <Maangoca> alguien me podria ayudar
[13:36] <Maangoca> porque gshardown nose inicia en xubuntu
[14:13] <dormito> Im running ubuntu 12.10 (with the xubuntu desktop pack added an Im using that wm) I have an extra partition mounted at /data and because I ran out of space on the origional partiotion /home is a bind mount of /data/home. However when I try to delete file (using thuar) from /data I get "invalid cross-device link" however I can delete stuff from ~/ just fine (but /data/home/dullfire has the same issue, and due to the bind they are the same
[14:13] <dormito> partition). Im guessing that the delete command is tring to make a hard link, but the bind is confusing the link op. however Im not really sure how to fix this
[15:50] <ianharper> Hi there, how can i edit a file as root via file manager?
[15:53] <TheSheep> ianharper: open terminal, type 'sudo thunar'
[15:54] <ianharper> ty very much
[16:02] <Zelouille> TheSheep: I think it would be safer to do a right click > open terminal here > "sudo leafpad my_file". Or even safer, right click on the file, open with > "gksudo leafpad". But yes, I always do "sudo thunar".
[16:02] <holstein> gksudo thunar
[16:03] <TheSheep> Zelouille: how is that "safer"
[16:03] <TheSheep> Zelouille: also, I didn't know if it's a text file
[16:03] <holstein> yeah, i agree... root is root... i dont think "safer" is going to play into it on that level
[16:05] <Zelouille> TheSheep: well, you can only break one file. Starting thunar with (gk)sudo is more risky (you can easily delete files, drag'n'drop folders etc.)
[16:07] <holstein> i see... i think it could be easier with the mouse to do some harm, but in the terminal you could sudo mv or rm something important as well
[16:23] <Zelouille> holstein: sure. But everything you type is voluntary. And it's logged into the "history". You can do harmful thing with the mouse (or worst peripherals, like touchpad ^^), even without seeing it, just while browsing to the file you wanted to edit. As I said, I often start thunar as root. But I don't think it's the better thing to do.
[16:25] <holstein> Zelouille: sure, "i think it could be easier" is what i stated to kind of agree with you as much as im going to.. i still feel like root is root, and care should be taken either place
[16:28] <TheSheep> also, thunar shows you a nice red warning when you run it as root :)
[16:29] <TheSheep> Zelouille: but you are right that it is possible to do something silly
[17:06] <piddinando> hi everyone. Could you help me with a wifi connection issue i have?
[17:44] <Utente43> Hi
[19:00] <xubuntu363> these good
[19:23] <andreas__> am i at the right place for help on xubuntu?
[19:24] <andreas__> (how rude of me) hello everyone! :)
[19:24] <bazhang> what is your support issue andreas__
[19:24] <torax> hey andreas__
[19:24] <andreas__> just new to the voyager 12.10 and with an old machine too. is there a way i can make it a tiny bit liter?
[19:25] <andreas__> like ... what should i uninstall.... and staff
[19:25] <bazhang> voyager?
[19:25] <andreas__> voyager12.10 xubuntu
[19:25] <bazhang> is that MINT?
[19:26] <andreas__> its xubuntu i think. it has the mouse logo and all (not a pc expert myself)
[19:26] <bazhang> where did you download this voyager from
[19:26] <Unit193> bazhang: No, it's something else.
[19:27] <bazhang> Unit193, which is?
[19:27] <andreas__> i just googled voyager 12.10 free download and here i am
[19:27] <Unit193> #voyagerOS is a little dead from what I see, but may try it.
[19:27] <Unit193> bazhang: Xubuntu based, but different distro.
[19:27] <bazhang> Unit193, so unsupported
[19:27] <andreas__> it is xubuntu based yes.
[19:27] <Unit193> Exactly.
[19:27] <andreas__> its a french project
[19:28] <andreas__> and here is one of problems
[19:28] <MoL0ToV> 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289 (rev 01)
[19:28] <MoL0ToV>  suggestions?
[19:28] <andreas__> i dont speak french lol
[19:28] <bazhang> real xubuntu fully supports the french langue
[19:29] <andreas__> downloaded the language manager and everything it said  but still some lines are in french
[19:29] <andreas__> can i fix that?
[19:29] <bazhang> andreas__, ask the voyager support forums
[19:30] <andreas__> true
[19:30] <andreas__> anyway cheers guys
[19:30] <andreas__> :)
[19:33] <go87651> I by rapoo h3050 headphones but in wirelese mode they not working. is anyway to fix this?
[20:31] <otura> I'm listening to rhythmbox while programming in netbeans, why music garbles whenever I press keystroke?
[20:31] <otura> can linux multitask yet?
[20:32] <well_laid_lawn> sure it can
[20:33] <otura> then why the audio garbling happens?
[20:33] <well_laid_lawn> does it only happen when using netbeans?
[20:34] <otura> dunno, I don't use that many programs
[20:34] <otura> but all of those are from official reps
[20:34] <holstein> otura: could be usb interrupts... could be anything hardware related with your audio device
[20:35] <manueel96> Hi!
[20:35] <manueel96> Can somebody explain to me how to install nvidia drivers for my xubuntu 12.10?
[20:35] <otura> holstein: great, that was helpful.
[20:35] <holstein> otura: i dont have time to troubleshoot with you right now, but i would look for and apply upgrades.. i would try other applications and see if the music is stable.. i would try as a different user.. also
[20:35] <holstein> !audio
[20:36] <holstein> ^ this is more for getting audio to work though
[20:36] <otura> audio also garbles in gnome3 whenever compositing effect event happens
[20:36] <holstein> otura: you can load up a live CD on other hardware and experiment and see if xubuntu can multitask to your expectaions
[20:37] <otura> I don't have other hardware
[20:37] <manueel96> how to install nvidia drivers for xubuntu 12.10?
[20:37] <holstein> !ati | manueel96
[20:37] <manueel96> ty
[20:37] <holstein> !patience | manueel96
[20:39] <holstein> otura: all im suggesting is, to try and make sure that your operating system's multitasking capabilities are not the issue..i think you will troubleshoot this issue, and find it to be irq interrupt related, or audio driver support
[20:42] <manueel96>  im sorry and i will not do that again
[20:42] <otura> switching to audacious fixed that problem so it wasn't irq or driver issue
[20:42] <holstein> otura: enjoy!
[20:43] <holstein> otura: if you find that the issue happens again, maybe explore the options i mentioned.. and enjoy multitasking!
[20:43] <holstein> i usuall install and use VLC
[20:43] <otura> so it's a bug in downstream netbeans or how rhythmbox acts with alsa
[20:44] <holstein> otura: i would think if it were netbeans related, it would happen with any application
[20:45]  * otura wishes to go back in time to perfectly stable and error-free Windows 7
[20:45] <otura> FOSS doesn't really respect my freedom to get things done
[20:46] <holstein> otura: you should ask in a windows channel.. afaik, windows7 is still on sale
[20:48] <holstein> otura: if it works better for you, i would use it.. also, if you dont mind, lets take the windows and non-support related chat to the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. also there might be more appropriate support channels for gnome related help
[20:49] <otura> this is XFCE, not gnome
[20:50] <holstein> i was referring to your audio garbling with compositing in gnome3
[22:48] <TIMM> hello im trying to find a NES emulator, to run on my netbook, any suggestions?
[22:54] <Unit193> zsnes or maybe the other one.
[22:55] <TIMM> I have ZNES and can't get it to run.
[22:55] <TIMM> maybe its the rom
[22:56] <Unit193> Hrm, you did say NES not SNES...
[22:56] <TIMM> ya
[22:57] <TIMM> wait i have ZSNES
[23:06] <xubuntu859> Can someone help me with a few questions regarding input/output errors?
[23:26] <sSs> hardware issue, check cabling and pins
[23:26] <sSs> lots of things can cause that, check your syslog
[23:27] <sSs> i/o error of what?