/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/17/#kubuntu-devel.txt

Riddellyofel: you may annoy us all you need to about that00:30
Quintasanchrist01:02
Quintasanyofel: is it just me that flashplayer craps out on any video?01:03
Quintasanafter the update01:03
Quintasanit stopped working01:03
yofelI still have the old one due to my weird setup here01:03
yofelbut someone else said that too01:03
Quintasanchrist01:04
* JontheEchidna does the didn't apply updates dance01:22
* Quintasan plays nope.avi and reinstalls os to raring01:25
Quintasanapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/673178/01:30
Quintasanthis works01:30
Quintasancan I push it?01:30
Quintasanwait01:43
Quintasanactually there is a small change needed01:43
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shadeslayerQuintasan_: pong08:37
shadeslayeryofel_: damnit, we need a better workflow :|08:37
smartboyhwHey shadeslayer 08:40
shadeslayerhi smartboyhw08:42
lordievaderGood morning09:08
smartboyhwHey lordievader 09:09
lordievaderI going to be at my parents place this week, so I won't be online all that much this week.09:09
smartboyhwlordievader, oh....09:09
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BluesKajHey all11:34
apacheloggerQuintasan_: yeah12:55
apacheloggerso12:55
apacheloggersee12:55
apacheloggeryou had to change the control to accomodate the broken sed12:55
apacheloggerwhich is one of the reasons you are supposed to usse a place holder and not a broken sed script12:55
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/kubuntu-logo.tar.xz13:20
apacheloggersomeone test plz13:20
* smartboyhw is simply too sleepy to test13:24
apacheloggersheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/kubuntu-logo.tar.xz13:32
apacheloggersheytan: btw we also need something like http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopUw1833.png for the cd 13:36
sheytani will do it later :)13:37
sheytanbtw, you send me what now?13:37
sheytanis it a ready theme?13:37
apacheloggeralso we still need to decide on what color to use for grub/cd/kubuntu-text splash/kubuntu-logo with broken driver13:37
apacheloggerit is a theme with your graphics13:38
apacheloggerthat works(tm)13:38
sheytani just need to replace the oryginal files in /lib/plymouth?13:39
sheytanor other way to install ir?13:39
sheytanit13:39
apacheloggerreplace13:40
sheytanok13:40
* sheytan is going to reboot13:44
sheytanapachelogger: my computer is too fast13:46
apacheloggerlol13:46
apacheloggerkdesudo kate /etc/init/lightdm.conf13:46
apacheloggersomewhere in the middle it says13:47
apacheloggerscript13:47
apachelogger    if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ]13:47
apacheloggerturn that into13:47
apacheloggerscript13:47
apachelogger    sleep 513:47
apachelogger    if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ]13:47
apacheloggerthen save and try again13:47
* smartboyhw almost want to call !paste for apachelogger 13:48
apacheloggerit adds a 5 second sleep before lightdm which forces plymouth to stick around for that amount of time13:48
sheytanok, brb13:48
sheytanapachelogger: it still show up the old theme13:50
apacheloggersudo update-initramfs -u13:50
sheytanapachelogger: in the kubuntu-logo.script L435 C33: Cannot increment/decrement non number objects13:54
sheytanbut i saw it for few sec in the reboot process13:54
apacheloggerthat is not fatal13:54
apacheloggeryou should see the splash regardless13:54
sheytani don.t just black screen13:54
apacheloggeryou probably have a broken driver then13:56
sheytanmight be14:01
sheytancouse i' on optimus14:01
sheytanapachelogger: can you record a quick demo?14:02
apacheloggereh14:03
apacheloggersudo apt-get install plymouth-x1114:03
sheytan:D14:03
apacheloggersudo plymouthd; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; for ((I=0; I<10; I++)); do sudo plymouth --update=test$I ; sleep 1; done; sudo plymouth quit14:03
sheytanhow come you know that stuff :D14:03
sheytanthis is madness :D14:03
smartboyhw sheytan +114:03
apacheloggercuz I am not rebooting my machine all day long to test code changes?...14:04
smartboyhwapachelogger, LOL14:04
sheytan:D14:05
sheytanok14:05
sheytanworks fine14:05
sheytanbut i'm not happy with the background14:06
sheytanapachelogger: let's leave it just black14:06
sheytanand fade in ldm's bg14:06
apacheloggeryeah14:06
apacheloggerwhat kind of black14:06
sheytan#000000 :D14:07
apacheloggeryou sure?14:07
sheytansomehow14:08
apacheloggeranyone got a somewhat recent kubuntu-dev-scripts package installed?14:08
apacheloggerdev-tools even14:08
sheytani got a notify about new release today morning ;D14:09
sheytanyes, i'm on 13.0414:09
apacheloggeractually14:09
apacheloggernevermind14:09
apacheloggerdont' need it :D14:09
apachelogger000000 is r0g0b0 and 0 is pretty much the same regardless of whether you work on 0-1 or 0-255 values ^^14:10
smartboyhwlol14:10
sheytanapachelogger: you don't live in a basement, are you? :D14:10
apacheloggerno14:11
smartboyhwlol\14:11
sheytanok. that's good:D14:11
* apachelogger doesn't understand the question tho14:11
sheytanbut you're prietty good in this stiff :D14:11
apacheloggersheytan: http://paste.kde.org/673388/14:11
apacheloggerreplace your kubuntu-logo.script with that14:12
apacheloggershould make the background 000000014:12
apacheloggersheytan: fwiw, we could also go the ubuntu way... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4B7ZWQHqMpk/TMcEEwqP88I/AAAAAAAAAEc/uVUzQyc32Ik/s1600/boot1.png14:13
apacheloggerexcept, drop the dots14:13
apacheloggerand perhaps have the icon rotate slowl to indicate progress14:13
apachelogger(I fear people may start ranting if we go black&white without color...)14:14
sheytanapachelogger: can you make the 'kubuntu' text glow a progress of the boot?14:15
apacheloggerohm14:15
apacheloggerI could14:15
apacheloggerBUT14:15
apacheloggerboto progress indication is *always* off14:16
apacheloggermeaning we may know that boot is now 90% progressed, but those 90% mean nothing as the remaining 10% could take longer than the previous 90%14:17
apacheloggeror perhaps I misunderstood how you intend this to work...14:17
apachelogger(I Imaging glow changing to lok weird btw)14:18
apachelogger*look14:18
sheytanwas just a quick idea14:19
sheytanblack looks ok14:19
sheytanbut :D14:19
sheytanwe almost there, still not happy with it14:19
sheytanapachelogger: can you make gadient bg?14:20
sheytanok, i have to go for like and hour. be back soon ;)14:21
apacheloggeryes, I can make a top-bottom gradient14:21
apacheloggerand they look like crap :P14:21
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shadeslayerapachelogger: mmm ... doesn't transition into lightdm smoothly14:47
shadeslayerapart from that, everything is fine14:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: hm?14:51
apacheloggeruse sane drivers maybe? :P14:51
shadeslayerintel!!!!14:52
apacheloggerthen I dunno14:52
apacheloggerdefine no smooth transition14:53
shadeslayerthe logo glows > towards the end the 4 dots appear > glow is stuck on one of the gears for about a minute > lightdm appears suddenly14:53
apacheloggerbug #53972314:56
ubottubug 539723 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-logo theme puts password prompt below dialogue, pushing it offscreen for 800x600 modes (default uvesa mode?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53972314:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: lol?14:56
apacheloggerseems like your lightdm is broken or something14:56
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shadeslayer:/15:08
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yofelshadeslayer: hard to say. What might need fixing is pull-lp-source not warning you of vcs information. apt-get source does that16:12
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apacheloggersheytan: how about a very dark blue?17:03
apacheloggeri.e. blackish blue17:04
sheytanapachelogger: try it ;)17:04
apacheloggerbetter than black I think17:05
apachelogger    Window.SetBackgroundTopColor(0.0392, 0.0118, 0.0784);17:06
apachelogger    Window.SetBackgroundBottomColor(0.0392, 0.0118, 0.0784);17:06
apacheloggertry that17:06
apacheloggerperhaps even a bit lighter17:06
apacheloggera blue auberine it will be :S17:06
* sheytan is trying new colors 17:07
* apachelogger is all sad because there is a bug....17:07
sheytanwhat is it?17:07
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apacheloggerAHHH17:11
apacheloggerI am actually too stupid to read codez today17:11
sheytanapachelogger: the background did not change or it is that dark blue that i don't see any difference :)17:11
apacheloggerget a better screen? :P17:12
apacheloggernote that the color is defined twice17:12
apacheloggeryou need to change the second17:12
apacheloggerthe first set is only for broken drivers17:12
sheytani did17:13
sheytanhttp://www.linoob.com/wp-content/flagallery/elementaryos-installation/00bootsplash.png17:13
sheytanwhat about such background?17:13
sheytanlighter on top and a bit darker at the bottom17:13
sheytanthat's why i asked for gradients17:14
sheytanapachelogger: http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/img/splash/splash800.png i bet you made this one :D17:14
apacheloggeras I said, we have no gradient control17:20
apacheloggerwhat you can do is create a sparate black image which is part transparent17:20
apacheloggeri.e. you make the gradient an own image17:20
apacheloggerthen we can place that image ontop of another image to create a gradient17:21
sheytanwe can leave it without gradients. Can you make a color line with that gray ones?17:21
apacheloggerthe grey one has a pattern17:22
apacheloggeryou can do that yourself actually17:22
sheytanwe don't need a pattern17:22
sheytanill try17:22
apacheloggerbzr co lp:kubuntu-dev-tools; cd kubuntu-dev-tools; bin/plymouth-rgb-normalizer R G B17:23
apacheloggerR = red value of color, G = green...17:23
apacheloggerOo17:38
apacheloggerour lucid logo svg is really weird17:38
apacheloggerlike REALLY weird17:38
sheytanwhy?17:42
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopyB2086.png17:45
apacheloggersheytan: its using a different gear than our official gear svg17:45
sheytanyou mean that when you move that blue dot in the middle the gear is not rounded in the inner part? :D17:46
apacheloggeryes, excatly that17:47
sheytani was fighting with it once17:52
sheytanbut i don't have that file anymore ;/17:52
apacheloggeryeah17:55
apacheloggersimply use the one from /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/branding.svgz17:55
sheytani will next time. Thanks :D17:59
sheytanapachelogger: Window.SetBackgroundTopColor(0.0878, 0.0878, 0.0878); what is the 0 for?18:04
apacheloggersheytan: plymouth defines colors between 0.0 and 1.018:08
sheytanthis is stupid :D18:09
apacheloggerno18:11
apacheloggercommon practise18:11
apacheloggerthe prolem is that since HSV has radial and 0-255 components you can easily break stuff when API expects you to be always aware with which value type you are working18:13
apacheloggerif however you always work with normalized values the chance of developers screwing up is decreased and also stuff is easier to read18:13
sheytanapachelogger: how do i enable back the background from file in the script?18:16
apachelogger/     background.tile = Tile();18:18
apacheloggertill18:19
apachelogger //     maxHeightSprites = maxHeight / background.tile.GetHeight();18:19
apacheloggerand the loop starting at 18:19
apachelogger //     for (wSprites = 0; wSprites <= maxWidthSprites; ++wSprites) {18:19
apacheloggeruncomment the code18:19
sheytanapachelogger: so i have to uncomment the for(wSprites = 0...) too?18:23
apacheloggeryep18:23
sheytanapachelogger: i used th gwenview background for the tile and removed the ring18:25
sheytanlooks ok18:25
sheytanit doesn't blow my ass but looks ok :D18:25
sheytanapachelogger: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1169/snapshot17z.png18:27
apacheloggersheytan: didn't we have that earlier today?18:35
apacheloggerlike with your tile18:35
sheytanmine sucked18:35
sheytanthis one looks better :D18:35
apacheloggeryeah, still not good IMO18:36
apacheloggerperhaps we should simply drop the rotation glow18:37
apacheloggerinstead make all 3 glow at once18:37
* sheytan dont think is a good idea18:37
sheytanrotation looks somehow new18:37
shadeslayer^18:38
shadeslayerI like the rotation18:38
shadeslayerdon't drop it18:39
shadeslayerit's ... elegant and neat18:39
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/boot-logo-rotate.mkv18:47
sheytanapachelogger: http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8640/snapshot17.png18:47
sheytanapachelogger: how do i add the kubuntu text into the script?18:49
apacheloggeryou cannot18:49
sheytanwhy :(18:49
apacheloggercause it's complicated18:50
apacheloggerwell18:50
apacheloggertechnically you can for a quick demo18:50
sheytani mean, i will make it an image18:50
apacheloggersheytan: 18:53
apacheloggerfind the following line18:53
apacheloggerglow.bottom.sprite.SetOpacity(0.0);18:53
apacheloggerbelow it add18:53
apacheloggerhttp://paste.kde.org/673508/18:53
apacheloggerplace the text in images/text.png18:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: is any of this documented?18:54
shadeslayeror did you read the code /o\18:54
apacheloggerdid you not ask that question yesterday?18:55
shadeslayerno18:55
shadeslayerI asked you about inheritance stuff18:55
apacheloggerhttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth/Scripts18:55
apacheloggersomeone also asked about the docs18:55
shadeslayerah18:56
apacheloggeroh code fail18:56
apacheloggersheytan: http://paste.kde.org/673514/18:56
apacheloggerthat's better I think18:56
sheytanapachelogger: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7586/snapshot18b.png18:56
sheytanthis one looks cool18:56
apacheloggeryou should totally not paste your entire screen18:57
apacheloggeror not use imageshack18:58
apacheloggeror perhaps both18:58
sheytanoh oh :D18:58
sheytanwhole screen ok, but imageshack why?18:58
apacheloggerslooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow18:58
shadeslayer^18:58
sheytanno its not18:58
apacheloggerslooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow18:58
shadeslayer^18:59
sheytanITS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT :D18:59
apacheloggerslooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow18:59
shadeslayer^18:59
shadeslayerand the chakra thing looks like they aped apple18:59
apacheloggernono18:59
shadeslayerlooks nice though18:59
apacheloggertheir progress indicator looks like crap18:59
apacheloggerapple would not have released that18:59
shadeslayerno18:59
shadeslayerreally18:59
shadeslayerit18:59
shadeslayerit's almos the same19:00
apacheloggerI know19:00
apacheloggerloose the text and add a good looking indicator your booting osx19:00
apacheloggerbut that indicator there really looks a bit ewww19:00
apacheloggerkinda like the kbusy thing in kdelibs19:00
apacheloggerthat's also scary and ugly and stuff19:00
shadeslayerheh19:01
apacheloggerwell I dunno what to do19:04
apacheloggeragateau surely has nice ideas19:04
apacheloggerbut he refuses to share them with us19:04
apachelogger"Subject: Yann Spied vous a invité sur Dropbox"19:05
apacheloggergoogle+ is quite spam machine19:05
shadeslayerwe need to clone him and then genetically alter his brain in the process so that cloned agateau shares all his awesome ideas19:05
shadeslayeror maybe just get him to UDS and get him drunk19:05
apacheloggerso... what do we think about the spinning circle thing?19:06
apacheloggerI think that also looks excitingly weird19:06
* apachelogger sad19:06
sheytanapachelogger: text doesnt work19:07
apacheloggerdefine doesnt work19:07
shadeslayerI think the glowing works19:07
sheytandoesn't show up under the gears19:07
shadeslayerbut the background is a bit crap19:07
shadeslayercould be made better19:07
apacheloggersheytan: does it show up at all?19:08
sheytannope19:08
apacheloggeryou placed it in images/text.png?19:08
sheytansure19:08
apacheloggerlecrap19:08
apacheloggersheytan: http://paste.kde.org/673520/19:11
sheytanworks (TM)19:12
sheytanand i think now we need to improve the background19:13
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/boot-glow-text.mkv19:13
sheytanimho text + rotation is ok19:13
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sheytanyep19:13
sheytanlooks way better now19:13
sheytanwithout the text it is kinda empty and sad19:13
apacheloggerlike on osx19:14
apacheloggertrolololo19:14
* apachelogger reboot19:14
apacheloggers19:14
sheytanapachelogger: well, osx is a different story :D19:15
apacheloggermhh, rotate version also looks kinda neat19:16
apacheloggerlogo is a bit too small right now, but otherwise also nice19:17
apacheloggerneither of them makes me feel excited tho19:17
apachelogger*shrug*19:17
apacheloggerwellz19:23
apacheloggersheytan: we still need to decide on colors........................................................19:24
sheytanapachelogger: we will if we will know the default ldm theme19:24
apacheloggerall depends on lightdm? Oo19:24
apacheloggerI think we are working on the wrong piece of artwork then....19:24
* apachelogger ponders watching aseigo porn19:25
sheytandoes he watch porn?19:25
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIwcUYdg1M19:26
apacheloggerTL;DW19:26
sheytanoh19:27
sheytanis this live?19:27
apacheloggerthis plymouth thing has terrible code19:27
apacheloggerwho wrote this codez19:27
apacheloggerwaaaah19:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: wanna rewrite the script? :P19:27
apacheloggersheytan: no19:27
sheytanapachelogger: which colors exactly  do ya mean?19:28
apacheloggerbackground color, foreground color, text color19:29
apacheloggerall others can be derived from those19:29
* sheytan 's radich doesn' taste that good anymore these days19:29
apacheloggerwhat do we need to get the lightdm stuff done?19:31
sheytanbackground #000 text #e7e foreground #6e788319:31
apacheloggeryou are drunk19:31
sheytanapachelogger: first of all. Do we want users the Nuno's way or default way?19:31
sheytani;m going to ;d19:31
apacheloggerI dunno!19:31
apacheloggerthat's entirely an artistic fashion19:32
apacheloggers/fashion/decision19:32
sheytanthe default way already works. The Nunos doesn't19:32
apacheloggerit doesn't?19:32
apacheloggerhow so?19:32
sheytani never saw it working19:32
apacheloggerworks19:32
apacheloggerwell19:32
sheytanand it's not ready yet i guess too19:33
apacheloggerit is not a proper them eyet19:33
apacheloggerbut the animations and crap works19:33
sheytanapachelogger: got it somwhere?19:33
apacheloggeryes, can't send you19:33
sheytanso i cannot work :)19:33
apacheloggerwhat would you want to work on?19:34
sheytani don't know how it behaves19:34
apacheloggerexactly like the ubuntu thing19:34
sheytancan you make a screencast of it atleast?19:34
sheytanwell19:35
sheytanbut it wont be finished till april anyway when it's for 4.1119:35
sheytancan't we like change release month to fit with upstream? :D19:35
apacheloggerdon't see the problem?19:36
apacheloggeralso lightdm AFAIK is not part of the SC19:36
sheytani feel wired not having a complete ldm theme and working on plymouth and grub19:36
apacheloggerI do not care what gets done first19:39
apacheloggereverything needs to get done before freeze though19:39
apacheloggerquite frankly I'd start with grub19:40
sheytanbut i can get my mind together to make all fit with each other19:40
apacheloggerbecause we cannot have images there19:40
apacheloggerthen I'd go to plymouth because we cannot have scalable or high-res images there19:40
apacheloggerand last I'd do lightdm because there we can pull out all the rubbish UI sugar anyone can think of19:40
sheytanfor grub we only need colors, right?19:40
apacheloggeryeah19:41
apacheloggeralas, colors that fit in with plymouth and lightdm19:41
sheytanso fit them with the plymouth theme we just made19:41
apacheloggeri.e. if your driver is super broken you get a plymouth that will have no more abilities than grub and therefore use exactly those colors19:41
sheytanmake the bg black foreground a bit lighter and the text white19:42
apacheloggersheytan: each, which one did we just make...19:42
apacheloggerI still think dark blue is the way to go19:42
sheytani think this one http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8640/snapshot17.png19:42
sheytanplease, no blue :)19:42
sheytanSee how nice smile i do right now? :)19:42
apacheloggerI did not say blue19:43
apacheloggerI said dark blue19:43
sheytan:)19:43
apacheloggeralas so dark that your bad screen will not make it seem blue at all...19:43
apacheloggeranywho19:43
sheytanso what for? :D19:43
apacheloggerbecause on my screen it looks ever so royal19:43
sheytanand i think that this pattern is ok19:43
apacheloggersheytan: I think that version you pasted needs a gradient19:44
sheytangradient or pattern. While having a tile we cannot go with both19:45
apacheloggersure we can19:45
apacheloggertop-down gradient19:45
apacheloggermake an image with nothing but a gradient, something betwene 120 and 240px high19:46
sheytanyou want to lay the gradient over the pattern?19:46
apacheloggerblack gradient start at top, gradient end at the bottom with 100% transparency19:46
apacheloggeri.e. gradient from black to transparent19:46
apacheloggerdoesn't need to be wider than 200px 19:46
apacheloggerthen we simply put that ontop of the tiled background19:47
apacheloggerstuck at the top of the screen repeated to the right19:47
sheytanyou want the 100% trans at the top of the image or bottom?19:47
apacheloggerthat should work nicely19:47
apacheloggersheytan: bottom19:47
sheytanapachelogger: http://www.sendspace.com/file/01u0v419:48
apacheloggeri.e. the end result in plymouth should be a very subtle gradient starting from the top, going down no more than 240px19:48
sheytani cannot imagine it right now19:49
sheytanneed a demo :D19:49
apacheloggersheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/video.mkv19:50
sheytanapachelogger: it's nice. I like the ubuntu one too, but nuno's one need a frame over the avatars19:53
sheytanlike you said19:53
apacheloggersheytan: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopFv2114.png19:54
sheytanapachelogger: can you move it to the bottom?19:56
apachelogger http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopHZ2214.png19:58
apacheloggerah, sec19:59
apacheloggernah, should be fine19:59
sheytani think it's ok20:00
apacheloggerhm20:01
apacheloggerno its broken20:01
apacheloggercan't put at the bottom20:01
apacheloggerplymouth is misbehaving20:01
sheytanleave it without/20:02
sheytan?20:02
apacheloggerthat looks weird20:02
apacheloggerI dunno20:02
apacheloggerask the mailing list20:02
apacheloggerjust throw up a couple of mocks and let them pick something20:02
apacheloggerI think you are now aware what we can and cannot do :)20:03
sheytanyeah ;d20:04
sheytananyway, we do the voting20:04
* sheytan opens a bottle of wine20:04
apacheloggerkubotu: order wine20:04
* kubotu pours apachelogger a delicious glass from the channel's wine cellar.20:04
apachelogger:O20:05
sheytannJoy :D20:05
sheytanapachelogger: what are those numbers in the left corner down/20:06
sheytan?20:06
apacheloggerdebug20:06
sheytanok20:06
apacheloggerit's how you can see that the bottom alignment is somehow broken20:07
apacheloggerthe 4 should be way darker20:07
sheytanemail sent20:12
yofelapachelogger: this is starting to look awesome :O20:27
apacheloggerwhich one, lol? :P20:44
yofel2nd one really. That rotating logo doesn't look bad, but I somehow can't get myself to like it20:47
apacheloggeryofel: go look through the history... which version of the second ;)20:47
yofelapachelogger: second from the mail20:48
yofelthough http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopHZ2214.png looks best20:48
yofelbut I'm not sure whether that background fits together with lightdm20:48
apacheloggercan use the same for lightdm...20:49
yofelhm20:49
apacheloggeractually that is the primary idea20:50
yofelyeah, that would be ok then20:50
apacheloggerby having the same background we get a 100% smooth transition20:50
apacheloggeras long as no resolution switch gets in the way20:50
sheytanapachelogger: but we will use a tile in ldm too. 20:51
sheytanso we don't get any glitter20:51
apacheloggerthats what I said20:51
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Riddella curiously grumpy e-mail I got today http://paste.kde.org/673562/21:35
yofelI totally don't understand what point he's trying to make @_@21:41
Darkwinghe is protesting the word allegedly?21:49
Darkwinghas anyone been playing with active on the nexus 7?21:50
RiddellDarkwing: yes I have it21:50
Riddelltouch doesn't work21:50
RiddellI'd like to get images being made as a first step21:50
DarkwingI agree. I'd like to help21:51
DarkwingI know its "working" on merged21:51
Darkwingmer21:51
Riddellyep21:51
Darkwingso, what did they do differently?21:51
Riddelltouch is pretty different on different distros I believe21:52
Darkwingahh... okay. 21:52
Darkwingwe have a ppa for it?21:52
RiddellDarkwing: it's in raring21:53
Darkwingokay. :-) how have ya been?21:53
Riddellquite decent thanks21:53
DarkwingI've been out of it for a bit21:53
Riddellgot life sorted yet?21:54
Darkwingfinally I do. 21:54
Riddellgosh, that's better than most of us :)21:54
DarkwingI'm actually getting a VM on my new desktop so I can get the docs rolling again. 21:55
DarkwingI'm a full time student so I'm poor but its really stable in my life right now21:55
Riddellcool, docs seem to get lots of people saying they'd help not little full follow through21:57
Darkwingalthough, because on amd video drivers, I'm stuck using LTS but, its okay because I'm also doing some android stuff so, the SDK likes the LTS 21:58
Darkwingyeah. I think I'll figure it out.21:58
DarkwingI'm making notes for uds. you doing to make it to the US this spring?21:59
Riddellyeah oakland again, should be fun21:59
Darkwingit will be Oakland again? sweet. I may need sponsorship. 22:00
yofelRiddell: does touch not work at all or do you mean bug 1068994?22:01
ubottubug 1068994 in ubuntu-nexus7 "button1 gets stuck after a while" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106899422:02
Riddellyofel: I couldn't interact at all with Qt Quick/Plasma bits on the nexus22:02
RiddellQWidgets worked fine22:02
Darkwingis there a date yet so I can plan uni with it?22:02
yofel:(22:03
RiddellDarkwing: uds.ubuntu.com22:03
Darkwinghmmmz... okay22:05
Darkwingthanks. 22:07
DarkwingRiddell, how did you install plasma? just on top of the Ubuntu daily?22:12
Darkwinghmmz...  I don't feel any older at 30...22:17
RiddellDarkwing: yes from the ubuntu nexus image22:41

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