[00:30] yofel: you may annoy us all you need to about that [01:02] christ [01:03] yofel: is it just me that flashplayer craps out on any video? [01:03] after the update [01:03] it stopped working [01:03] I still have the old one due to my weird setup here [01:03] but someone else said that too [01:04] christ [01:22] * JontheEchidna does the didn't apply updates dance [01:25] * Quintasan plays nope.avi and reinstalls os to raring [01:30] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/673178/ [01:30] this works [01:30] can I push it? [01:43] wait [01:43] actually there is a small change needed === valorie_ is now known as valorie === Mamarok is now known as Guest72783 [08:37] Quintasan_: pong [08:37] yofel_: damnit, we need a better workflow :| [08:40] Hey shadeslayer [08:42] hi smartboyhw [09:08] Good morning [09:09] Hey lordievader [09:09] I going to be at my parents place this week, so I won't be online all that much this week. [09:09] lordievader, oh.... === Guest72783 is now known as Mamarok [11:34] Hey all [12:55] Quintasan_: yeah [12:55] so [12:55] see [12:55] you had to change the control to accomodate the broken sed [12:55] which is one of the reasons you are supposed to usse a place holder and not a broken sed script [13:20] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/kubuntu-logo.tar.xz [13:20] someone test plz [13:24] * smartboyhw is simply too sleepy to test [13:32] sheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/kubuntu-logo.tar.xz [13:36] sheytan: btw we also need something like http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopUw1833.png for the cd [13:37] i will do it later :) [13:37] btw, you send me what now? [13:37] is it a ready theme? [13:37] also we still need to decide on what color to use for grub/cd/kubuntu-text splash/kubuntu-logo with broken driver [13:38] it is a theme with your graphics [13:38] that works(tm) [13:39] i just need to replace the oryginal files in /lib/plymouth? [13:39] or other way to install ir? [13:39] it [13:40] replace [13:40] ok [13:44] * sheytan is going to reboot [13:46] apachelogger: my computer is too fast [13:46] lol [13:46] kdesudo kate /etc/init/lightdm.conf [13:47] somewhere in the middle it says [13:47] script [13:47] if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ] [13:47] turn that into [13:47] script [13:47] sleep 5 [13:47] if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ] [13:47] then save and try again [13:48] * smartboyhw almost want to call !paste for apachelogger [13:48] it adds a 5 second sleep before lightdm which forces plymouth to stick around for that amount of time [13:48] ok, brb [13:50] apachelogger: it still show up the old theme [13:50] sudo update-initramfs -u [13:54] apachelogger: in the kubuntu-logo.script L435 C33: Cannot increment/decrement non number objects [13:54] but i saw it for few sec in the reboot process [13:54] that is not fatal [13:54] you should see the splash regardless [13:54] i don.t just black screen [13:56] you probably have a broken driver then [14:01] might be [14:01] couse i' on optimus [14:02] apachelogger: can you record a quick demo? [14:03] eh [14:03] sudo apt-get install plymouth-x11 [14:03] :D [14:03] sudo plymouthd; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; for ((I=0; I<10; I++)); do sudo plymouth --update=test$I ; sleep 1; done; sudo plymouth quit [14:03] how come you know that stuff :D [14:03] this is madness :D [14:03] sheytan +1 [14:04] cuz I am not rebooting my machine all day long to test code changes?... [14:04] apachelogger, LOL [14:05] :D [14:05] ok [14:05] works fine [14:06] but i'm not happy with the background [14:06] apachelogger: let's leave it just black [14:06] and fade in ldm's bg [14:06] yeah [14:06] what kind of black [14:07] #000000 :D [14:07] you sure? [14:08] somehow [14:08] anyone got a somewhat recent kubuntu-dev-scripts package installed? [14:08] dev-tools even [14:09] i got a notify about new release today morning ;D [14:09] yes, i'm on 13.04 [14:09] actually [14:09] nevermind [14:09] dont' need it :D [14:10] 000000 is r0g0b0 and 0 is pretty much the same regardless of whether you work on 0-1 or 0-255 values ^^ [14:10] lol [14:10] apachelogger: you don't live in a basement, are you? :D [14:11] no [14:11] lol\ [14:11] ok. that's good:D [14:11] * apachelogger doesn't understand the question tho [14:11] but you're prietty good in this stiff :D [14:11] sheytan: http://paste.kde.org/673388/ [14:12] replace your kubuntu-logo.script with that [14:12] should make the background 0000000 [14:13] sheytan: fwiw, we could also go the ubuntu way... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4B7ZWQHqMpk/TMcEEwqP88I/AAAAAAAAAEc/uVUzQyc32Ik/s1600/boot1.png [14:13] except, drop the dots [14:13] and perhaps have the icon rotate slowl to indicate progress [14:14] (I fear people may start ranting if we go black&white without color...) [14:15] apachelogger: can you make the 'kubuntu' text glow a progress of the boot? [14:15] ohm [14:15] I could [14:15] BUT [14:16] boto progress indication is *always* off [14:17] meaning we may know that boot is now 90% progressed, but those 90% mean nothing as the remaining 10% could take longer than the previous 90% [14:17] or perhaps I misunderstood how you intend this to work... [14:18] (I Imaging glow changing to lok weird btw) [14:18] *look [14:19] was just a quick idea [14:19] black looks ok [14:19] but :D [14:19] we almost there, still not happy with it [14:20] apachelogger: can you make gadient bg? [14:21] ok, i have to go for like and hour. be back soon ;) [14:21] yes, I can make a top-bottom gradient [14:21] and they look like crap :P === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === emma is now known as em [14:47] apachelogger: mmm ... doesn't transition into lightdm smoothly [14:47] apart from that, everything is fine [14:51] shadeslayer: hm? [14:51] use sane drivers maybe? :P [14:52] intel!!!! [14:52] then I dunno [14:53] define no smooth transition [14:53] the logo glows > towards the end the 4 dots appear > glow is stuck on one of the gears for about a minute > lightdm appears suddenly [14:56] bug #539723 [14:56] bug 539723 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-logo theme puts password prompt below dialogue, pushing it offscreen for 800x600 modes (default uvesa mode?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539723 [14:56] shadeslayer: lol? [14:56] seems like your lightdm is broken or something === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [15:08] :/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:12] shadeslayer: hard to say. What might need fixing is pull-lp-source not warning you of vcs information. apt-get source does that === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk [17:03] sheytan: how about a very dark blue? [17:04] i.e. blackish blue [17:04] apachelogger: try it ;) [17:05] better than black I think [17:06] Window.SetBackgroundTopColor(0.0392, 0.0118, 0.0784); [17:06] Window.SetBackgroundBottomColor(0.0392, 0.0118, 0.0784); [17:06] try that [17:06] perhaps even a bit lighter [17:06] a blue auberine it will be :S [17:07] * sheytan is trying new colors [17:07] * apachelogger is all sad because there is a bug.... [17:07] what is it? === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [17:11] AHHH [17:11] I am actually too stupid to read codez today [17:11] apachelogger: the background did not change or it is that dark blue that i don't see any difference :) [17:12] get a better screen? :P [17:12] note that the color is defined twice [17:12] you need to change the second [17:12] the first set is only for broken drivers [17:13] i did [17:13] http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/flagallery/elementaryos-installation/00bootsplash.png [17:13] what about such background? [17:13] lighter on top and a bit darker at the bottom [17:14] that's why i asked for gradients [17:14] apachelogger: http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/img/splash/splash800.png i bet you made this one :D [17:20] as I said, we have no gradient control [17:20] what you can do is create a sparate black image which is part transparent [17:20] i.e. you make the gradient an own image [17:21] then we can place that image ontop of another image to create a gradient [17:21] we can leave it without gradients. Can you make a color line with that gray ones? [17:22] the grey one has a pattern [17:22] you can do that yourself actually [17:22] we don't need a pattern [17:22] ill try [17:23] bzr co lp:kubuntu-dev-tools; cd kubuntu-dev-tools; bin/plymouth-rgb-normalizer R G B [17:23] R = red value of color, G = green... [17:38] Oo [17:38] our lucid logo svg is really weird [17:38] like REALLY weird [17:42] why? [17:45] http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopyB2086.png [17:45] sheytan: its using a different gear than our official gear svg [17:46] you mean that when you move that blue dot in the middle the gear is not rounded in the inner part? :D [17:47] yes, excatly that [17:52] i was fighting with it once [17:52] but i don't have that file anymore ;/ [17:55] yeah [17:55] simply use the one from /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/branding.svgz [17:59] i will next time. Thanks :D [18:04] apachelogger: Window.SetBackgroundTopColor(0.0878, 0.0878, 0.0878); what is the 0 for? [18:08] sheytan: plymouth defines colors between 0.0 and 1.0 [18:09] this is stupid :D [18:11] no [18:11] common practise [18:13] the prolem is that since HSV has radial and 0-255 components you can easily break stuff when API expects you to be always aware with which value type you are working [18:13] if however you always work with normalized values the chance of developers screwing up is decreased and also stuff is easier to read [18:16] apachelogger: how do i enable back the background from file in the script? [18:18] / background.tile = Tile(); [18:19] till [18:19] // maxHeightSprites = maxHeight / background.tile.GetHeight(); [18:19] and the loop starting at [18:19] // for (wSprites = 0; wSprites <= maxWidthSprites; ++wSprites) { [18:19] uncomment the code [18:23] apachelogger: so i have to uncomment the for(wSprites = 0...) too? [18:23] yep [18:25] apachelogger: i used th gwenview background for the tile and removed the ring [18:25] looks ok [18:25] it doesn't blow my ass but looks ok :D [18:27] apachelogger: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1169/snapshot17z.png [18:35] sheytan: didn't we have that earlier today? [18:35] like with your tile [18:35] mine sucked [18:35] this one looks better :D [18:36] yeah, still not good IMO [18:37] perhaps we should simply drop the rotation glow [18:37] instead make all 3 glow at once [18:37] * sheytan dont think is a good idea [18:37] rotation looks somehow new [18:38] ^ [18:38] I like the rotation [18:39] don't drop it [18:39] it's ... elegant and neat [18:47] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/boot-logo-rotate.mkv [18:47] apachelogger: http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8640/snapshot17.png [18:49] apachelogger: how do i add the kubuntu text into the script? [18:49] you cannot [18:49] why :( [18:50] cause it's complicated [18:50] well [18:50] technically you can for a quick demo [18:50] i mean, i will make it an image [18:53] sheytan: [18:53] find the following line [18:53] glow.bottom.sprite.SetOpacity(0.0); [18:53] below it add [18:53] http://paste.kde.org/673508/ [18:54] place the text in images/text.png [18:54] apachelogger: is any of this documented? [18:54] or did you read the code /o\ [18:55] did you not ask that question yesterday? [18:55] no [18:55] I asked you about inheritance stuff [18:55] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth/Scripts [18:55] someone also asked about the docs [18:56] ah [18:56] oh code fail [18:56] sheytan: http://paste.kde.org/673514/ [18:56] that's better I think [18:56] apachelogger: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7586/snapshot18b.png [18:56] this one looks cool [18:57] you should totally not paste your entire screen [18:58] or not use imageshack [18:58] or perhaps both [18:58] oh oh :D [18:58] whole screen ok, but imageshack why? [18:58] slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow [18:58] ^ [18:58] no its not [18:58] slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow [18:59] ^ [18:59] ITS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT :D [18:59] slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow [18:59] ^ [18:59] and the chakra thing looks like they aped apple [18:59] nono [18:59] looks nice though [18:59] their progress indicator looks like crap [18:59] apple would not have released that [18:59] no [18:59] really [18:59] it [19:00] it's almos the same [19:00] I know [19:00] loose the text and add a good looking indicator your booting osx [19:00] but that indicator there really looks a bit ewww [19:00] kinda like the kbusy thing in kdelibs [19:00] that's also scary and ugly and stuff [19:01] heh [19:04] well I dunno what to do [19:04] agateau surely has nice ideas [19:04] but he refuses to share them with us [19:05] "Subject: Yann Spied vous a invité sur Dropbox" [19:05] google+ is quite spam machine [19:05] we need to clone him and then genetically alter his brain in the process so that cloned agateau shares all his awesome ideas [19:05] or maybe just get him to UDS and get him drunk [19:06] so... what do we think about the spinning circle thing? [19:06] I think that also looks excitingly weird [19:06] * apachelogger sad [19:07] apachelogger: text doesnt work [19:07] define doesnt work [19:07] I think the glowing works [19:07] doesn't show up under the gears [19:07] but the background is a bit crap [19:07] could be made better [19:08] sheytan: does it show up at all? [19:08] nope [19:08] you placed it in images/text.png? [19:08] sure [19:08] lecrap [19:11] sheytan: http://paste.kde.org/673520/ [19:12] works (TM) [19:13] and i think now we need to improve the background [19:13] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/boot-glow-text.mkv [19:13] imho text + rotation is ok === mck182|afk is now known as mck182 [19:13] yep [19:13] looks way better now [19:13] without the text it is kinda empty and sad [19:14] like on osx [19:14] trolololo [19:14] * apachelogger reboot [19:14] s [19:15] apachelogger: well, osx is a different story :D [19:16] mhh, rotate version also looks kinda neat [19:17] logo is a bit too small right now, but otherwise also nice [19:17] neither of them makes me feel excited tho [19:17] *shrug* [19:23] wellz [19:24] sheytan: we still need to decide on colors........................................................ [19:24] apachelogger: we will if we will know the default ldm theme [19:24] all depends on lightdm? Oo [19:24] I think we are working on the wrong piece of artwork then.... [19:25] * apachelogger ponders watching aseigo porn [19:25] does he watch porn? [19:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIwcUYdg1M [19:26] TL;DW [19:27] oh [19:27] is this live? [19:27] this plymouth thing has terrible code [19:27] who wrote this codez [19:27] waaaah [19:27] shadeslayer: wanna rewrite the script? :P [19:27] sheytan: no [19:28] apachelogger: which colors exactly do ya mean? [19:29] background color, foreground color, text color [19:29] all others can be derived from those [19:29] * sheytan 's radich doesn' taste that good anymore these days [19:31] what do we need to get the lightdm stuff done? [19:31] background #000 text #e7e foreground #6e7883 [19:31] you are drunk [19:31] apachelogger: first of all. Do we want users the Nuno's way or default way? [19:31] i;m going to ;d [19:31] I dunno! [19:32] that's entirely an artistic fashion [19:32] s/fashion/decision [19:32] the default way already works. The Nunos doesn't [19:32] it doesn't? [19:32] how so? [19:32] i never saw it working [19:32] works [19:32] well [19:33] and it's not ready yet i guess too [19:33] it is not a proper them eyet [19:33] but the animations and crap works [19:33] apachelogger: got it somwhere? [19:33] yes, can't send you [19:33] so i cannot work :) [19:34] what would you want to work on? [19:34] i don't know how it behaves [19:34] exactly like the ubuntu thing [19:34] can you make a screencast of it atleast? [19:35] well [19:35] but it wont be finished till april anyway when it's for 4.11 [19:35] can't we like change release month to fit with upstream? :D [19:36] don't see the problem? [19:36] also lightdm AFAIK is not part of the SC [19:36] i feel wired not having a complete ldm theme and working on plymouth and grub [19:39] I do not care what gets done first [19:39] everything needs to get done before freeze though [19:40] quite frankly I'd start with grub [19:40] but i can get my mind together to make all fit with each other [19:40] because we cannot have images there [19:40] then I'd go to plymouth because we cannot have scalable or high-res images there [19:40] and last I'd do lightdm because there we can pull out all the rubbish UI sugar anyone can think of [19:40] for grub we only need colors, right? [19:41] yeah [19:41] alas, colors that fit in with plymouth and lightdm [19:41] so fit them with the plymouth theme we just made [19:41] i.e. if your driver is super broken you get a plymouth that will have no more abilities than grub and therefore use exactly those colors [19:42] make the bg black foreground a bit lighter and the text white [19:42] sheytan: each, which one did we just make... [19:42] I still think dark blue is the way to go [19:42] i think this one http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8640/snapshot17.png [19:42] please, no blue :) [19:42] See how nice smile i do right now? :) [19:43] I did not say blue [19:43] I said dark blue [19:43] :) [19:43] alas so dark that your bad screen will not make it seem blue at all... [19:43] anywho [19:43] so what for? :D [19:43] because on my screen it looks ever so royal [19:43] and i think that this pattern is ok [19:44] sheytan: I think that version you pasted needs a gradient [19:45] gradient or pattern. While having a tile we cannot go with both [19:45] sure we can [19:45] top-down gradient [19:46] make an image with nothing but a gradient, something betwene 120 and 240px high [19:46] you want to lay the gradient over the pattern? [19:46] black gradient start at top, gradient end at the bottom with 100% transparency [19:46] i.e. gradient from black to transparent [19:46] doesn't need to be wider than 200px [19:47] then we simply put that ontop of the tiled background [19:47] stuck at the top of the screen repeated to the right [19:47] you want the 100% trans at the top of the image or bottom? [19:47] that should work nicely [19:47] sheytan: bottom [19:48] apachelogger: http://www.sendspace.com/file/01u0v4 [19:48] i.e. the end result in plymouth should be a very subtle gradient starting from the top, going down no more than 240px [19:49] i cannot imagine it right now [19:49] need a demo :D [19:50] sheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/video.mkv [19:53] apachelogger: it's nice. I like the ubuntu one too, but nuno's one need a frame over the avatars [19:53] like you said [19:54] sheytan: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopFv2114.png [19:56] apachelogger: can you move it to the bottom? [19:58]  http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopHZ2214.png [19:59] ah, sec [19:59] nah, should be fine [20:00] i think it's ok [20:01] hm [20:01] no its broken [20:01] can't put at the bottom [20:01] plymouth is misbehaving [20:02] leave it without/ [20:02] ? [20:02] that looks weird [20:02] I dunno [20:02] ask the mailing list [20:02] just throw up a couple of mocks and let them pick something [20:03] I think you are now aware what we can and cannot do :) [20:04] yeah ;d [20:04] anyway, we do the voting [20:04] * sheytan opens a bottle of wine [20:04] kubotu: order wine [20:04] * kubotu pours apachelogger a delicious glass from the channel's wine cellar. [20:05] :O [20:05] nJoy :D [20:06] apachelogger: what are those numbers in the left corner down/ [20:06] ? [20:06] debug [20:06] ok [20:07] it's how you can see that the bottom alignment is somehow broken [20:07] the 4 should be way darker [20:12] email sent [20:27] apachelogger: this is starting to look awesome :O [20:44] which one, lol? :P [20:47] 2nd one really. That rotating logo doesn't look bad, but I somehow can't get myself to like it [20:47] yofel: go look through the history... which version of the second ;) [20:48] apachelogger: second from the mail [20:48] though http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/17/plasma-desktopHZ2214.png looks best [20:48] but I'm not sure whether that background fits together with lightdm [20:49] can use the same for lightdm... [20:49] hm [20:50] actually that is the primary idea [20:50] yeah, that would be ok then [20:50] by having the same background we get a 100% smooth transition [20:50] as long as no resolution switch gets in the way [20:51] apachelogger: but we will use a tile in ldm too. [20:51] so we don't get any glitter [20:51] thats what I said === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [21:35] a curiously grumpy e-mail I got today http://paste.kde.org/673562/ [21:41] I totally don't understand what point he's trying to make @_@ [21:49] he is protesting the word allegedly? [21:50] has anyone been playing with active on the nexus 7? [21:50] Darkwing: yes I have it [21:50] touch doesn't work [21:50] I'd like to get images being made as a first step [21:51] I agree. I'd like to help [21:51] I know its "working" on merged [21:51] mer [21:51] yep [21:51] so, what did they do differently? [21:52] touch is pretty different on different distros I believe [21:52] ahh... okay. [21:52] we have a ppa for it? [21:53] Darkwing: it's in raring [21:53] okay. :-) how have ya been? [21:53] quite decent thanks [21:53] I've been out of it for a bit [21:54] got life sorted yet? [21:54] finally I do. [21:54] gosh, that's better than most of us :) [21:55] I'm actually getting a VM on my new desktop so I can get the docs rolling again. [21:55] I'm a full time student so I'm poor but its really stable in my life right now [21:57] cool, docs seem to get lots of people saying they'd help not little full follow through [21:58] although, because on amd video drivers, I'm stuck using LTS but, its okay because I'm also doing some android stuff so, the SDK likes the LTS [21:58] yeah. I think I'll figure it out. [21:59] I'm making notes for uds. you doing to make it to the US this spring? [21:59] yeah oakland again, should be fun [22:00] it will be Oakland again? sweet. I may need sponsorship. [22:01] Riddell: does touch not work at all or do you mean bug 1068994? [22:02] bug 1068994 in ubuntu-nexus7 "button1 gets stuck after a while" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068994 [22:02] yofel: I couldn't interact at all with Qt Quick/Plasma bits on the nexus [22:02] QWidgets worked fine [22:02] is there a date yet so I can plan uni with it? [22:03] :( [22:03] Darkwing: uds.ubuntu.com [22:05] hmmmz... okay [22:07] thanks. [22:12] Riddell, how did you install plasma? just on top of the Ubuntu daily? [22:17] hmmz... I don't feel any older at 30... [22:41] Darkwing: yes from the ubuntu nexus image