| Tassadar | yes | 00:00 |
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| Tassadar | dickmacinnis: are you dual-booting it? | 00:00 |
| dickmacinnis | I was, and having noticed that others doing so were getting this bug, I did a wipe and fresh install via the official installer. With the fresh install, I saw the plymouth splash for a little longer, but I get the same end result. | 00:01 |
| Tassadar | the image is broken. It happens, this is not stable release after all. I'm sure it will be fixed soon. | 00:02 |
| Tassadar | do you want some older working image? | 00:03 |
| dickmacinnis | Tassadar: yes, that would be fantastic. I just got my nexus7 yesterday, and can't find an older build anywhere. | 00:04 |
| Tassadar | https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img | 00:04 |
| Tassadar | from somebody on XDA | 00:04 |
| dickmacinnis | Tassadar: thanks so much! Downloading right now. | 00:04 |
| Tassadar | well, thank you for assuring me that it's the image and not multirom) | 00:08 |
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| joao | hi, so I've just flashed my Nexus 7 using the latest image, however the screen goes black after "localhost login: [Powering wi-fi]". It's stuck for more than 30 minutes now. Any thoughts? | 01:02 |
| Tassadar | [01:02] <Tassadar> the image is broken. It happens, this is not stable release after all. I'm sure it will be fixed soon. | 01:02 |
| Tassadar | do you want some older working image? | 01:03 |
| joao | Tassadar: sure i do, thanks | 01:03 |
| Tassadar | https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img | 01:04 |
| Tassadar | from someone on XDA, it's a bit old, so apt-get dist-upgrade will take long if you'll | 01:04 |
| joao | ok thanks, i was following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation | 01:06 |
| joao | now i should do like on manual install? | 01:07 |
| Tassadar | yeah | 01:07 |
| Tassadar | this is the fastboot image which you would install in step 1 of manual installation | 01:08 |
| Tassadar | *download | 01:08 |
| joao | ok thanks, i'll give it a try | 01:09 |
| joao | what bootimg should i use? | 01:30 |
| Tassadar | hmm, you can use the one from daily build | 01:31 |
| joao | thanks, i'll try | 01:34 |
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| joao | great, it's stuck at flashing bootimg -.- | 01:39 |
| isaias | hello | 01:40 |
| joao | hi | 01:40 |
| isaias | how are things comming along with the new img? :) | 01:40 |
| Tassadar | mornin' | 01:40 |
| isaias | evenin' | 01:40 |
| Tassadar | don't know, but I have old image if you wanna) | 01:41 |
| joao | what's the english word for being almost 2 am? | 01:41 |
| Tassadar | dunno, I used morning) | 01:41 |
| isaias | morning is good xD | 01:41 |
| isaias | its almost 10 here | 01:41 |
| isaias | pm | 01:41 |
| isaias | an old image would be amazing. i bought the nexus 7, and havent been able to use it, lol | 01:42 |
| Tassadar | https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img | 01:42 |
| * Tassadar hopes that dropbox account won't get banned because of too many downloads) | 01:42 | |
| joao | i'm trying to flash that one, im stuck for 10min at flashing bootimg tho | 01:42 |
| Tassadar | it's stuck, just....reboot nexus and try again | 01:42 |
| Tassadar | it shouldn't break anything, it's just boot image | 01:43 |
| isaias | is this one boot or userdata? | 01:43 |
| Tassadar | userdata | 01:44 |
| isaias | thank you :D | 01:44 |
| Tassadar | boot from current daily should/could work okay | 01:44 |
| joao | retrying, i'm afraid to waste 300€ hence didnt reboot :P | 01:44 |
| joao | ok, took 1 second now | 01:45 |
| Tassadar | yeah, that's how it should be) | 01:46 |
| isaias | i can just use the new boot, and the userdata you sent me, right? | 01:46 |
| isaias | ok, lol | 01:46 |
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| joao | it worked :) | 02:00 |
| isaias | will i need to learn a specific language to modify (add a usable program/app) for the tablet when the final product come out? or will it be more like PC where i can use whatever? | 02:00 |
| isaias | what I mean is, with ubuntu phone, they're telling me I have to learn QML | 02:00 |
| Tassadar | well, we still don't really know what the "final" product is in case of Nexus 7 | 02:01 |
| isaias | will I be able to run a compiler? lol | 02:01 |
| Tassadar | yes | 02:01 |
| Tassadar | well | 02:01 |
| Tassadar | I have no idea | 02:01 |
| Tassadar | now you can :D | 02:01 |
| isaias | then I'm happy :) | 02:02 |
| Tassadar | Ubuntu phone apps will be using c++ and QML | 02:02 |
| joao | damn, keyboard doesn't show up lol and i still don't have my usb otg adapter | 02:02 |
| Tassadar | joao: are in the "installation wizard"? try to reboot it | 02:02 |
| isaias | i'm working on my C++, but they're telling me that for now, apps will only be in QML | 02:02 |
| Tassadar | QML is the UI | 02:03 |
| joao | yes, trying to put my name and stuff, i'll reboot | 02:03 |
| Tassadar | it's more like "scripting language" | 02:03 |
| Tassadar | you are not expected to say, render a web page in that language | 02:04 |
| isaias | i never heard of QML. fairly new to programming, lol | 02:04 |
| Tassadar | but, for example simple actions like "User toggles checkbox -> button gets enabled/disabled" should be in there | 02:05 |
| isaias | ok | 02:05 |
| Tassadar | it looks much better to me than Android and "Java", that's for sure) | 02:05 |
| joao | isnt there a way to reboot while on the "installation wizard" other than "brute force" ? | 02:05 |
| isaias | main reason I chose C++ is because I want to do more with my Ubuntu. If Ubuntu-Phone doesnt support apps in C++, it will be kind of dissapointing | 02:05 |
| Tassadar | joao: I think not, because your username/password is not yet created, so you can't even log in to console | 02:06 |
| joao | it will support C++ afaik | 02:07 |
| joao | http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem | 02:07 |
| Tassadar | I just spent whole day trying to write "driver" for USB ACM device using Android USB API, and it's still not working as I would image :/ | 02:07 |
| scientes | Tassadar, i believe people do android drier development on ubuntu and the like | 02:08 |
| Tassadar | I'm sorry, what? ubuntu like channel #ubuntu? | 02:09 |
| isaias | Tassadar: hey, if you're scared your dropbox will get deleted because of the downloads, feel free to give out mine | 02:09 |
| isaias | Tassadar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w06cl3llrgccarv/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img | 02:09 |
| Tassadar | isaias: Um...it _might_ not be mine, it's somebody's from XDA | 02:10 |
| isaias | ahh | 02:10 |
| isaias | either way, you have 2 links, in case one gets deleted xD | 02:10 |
| Tassadar | I should go to bed | 02:12 |
| Tassadar | well, good night | 02:12 |
| joao | gn8, better luck tomorrow :P | 02:14 |
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| isaias | i can dissconect my nexus7 while its flashing, right? | 02:49 |
| joao | i did, nothing bad happened | 03:00 |
| isaias | hey, how do i get the onboard keyboard working? im trying to connect to my router | 03:19 |
| drizzy | click in the input box | 03:20 |
| drizzy | a input box | 03:20 |
| isaias | im tapping it, nothing is happenning, lol | 03:20 |
| isaias | :( | 03:21 |
| isaias | no onboard keyboard is comming up in any input boxes | 03:22 |
| isaias | any help with this? | 03:25 |
| isaias | i dont have a keybord with a usb that will plug into my nexus | 03:29 |
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| isaias | :/ | 05:12 |
| isaias | this keeps crashing | 05:12 |
| ashes | i'm curious what you do with your ubuntu-arm machines | 07:44 |
| ashes | i have one, and i don't know what to do with it | 07:44 |
| ashes | i have another arm machine running as a NAS, so i don't need another | 07:45 |
| ashes | i'm in a home environment | 07:45 |
| ashes | i have a seagate goflex archlinux NAS. it's able to do what it can do. it's simple. i have a trim slice, which can do a tiny bit more, regardless of being a nvidia cpu. i would like to put the trim slice to use, somehow | 07:51 |
| ashes | the goflex is owned. i can run buildroot on it, or cross-linuxfromscratch. it's owned | 07:51 |
| ashes | the trimslice begs gpu drivers | 07:52 |
| gildean | ashes: the tegra2-driver that's used on the ac100 works fine on the trimslice | 07:52 |
| gildean | "fine" | 07:53 |
| ashes | i have tried taloring video for the trim slice, and it still doesn't run well | 07:53 |
| gildean | as well as nvidia's beta-drivers work | 07:53 |
| ashes | it stops | 07:53 |
| ashes | i thought it was an i/o problem, and it's something else | 07:54 |
| ashes | it means i need a backend to recode stuff | 07:54 |
| ashes | video plays, but really badly | 07:55 |
| gildean | ashes: which drivers are you sporting? | 07:55 |
| ashes | h264 | 07:56 |
| ashes | if you can give me a link to a video that should play well on a trim slice, and if it plays well, i will shut up about the hardware problems | 07:56 |
| ashes | i will figure it out from there | 07:57 |
| gildean | h264 is a video-codec, i was asking about which display-drivers are you using? | 07:58 |
| gildean | the tegra2 has a hard time playing anything hd, so that's mainly out of the question | 07:58 |
| ashes | x11, nvidia. | 07:59 |
| ashes | in reality, i will never ever buy nvidia again, like ever. i thought i was finished 10 years ago, and today you will need to spike red hot spikes in me before i agree to this again | 08:01 |
| ashes | i am trying to salvage this machine, and its not easy | 08:01 |
| ashes | it does shit in 1/8th the time of my laptop | 08:02 |
| ashes | so finding a use for it is hard | 08:02 |
| ashes | uhm | 08:03 |
| ashes | 100/8ths | 08:03 |
| ashes | the gpu is the only useful part | 08:04 |
| ashes | and it's not usefull | 08:04 |
| ashes | nvidia has made me check over every single driver when i buy hardware, to make sure none of it is nvidia | 08:06 |
| ashes | they have done the final nail | 08:06 |
| ashes | i did this when i bought my laptop | 08:06 |
| ashes | and for some reason when i bought my arm system i went retarded | 08:07 |
| ashes | 'nvidia, sure, trust them to give me drivers!' | 08:08 |
| ashes | or, not | 08:08 |
| ashes | i have a machine i paid $250 for, th | 08:09 |
| ashes | i have a machine i paid $250 for, with a nvidia cpu/gpu, and it's good for nothing to me | 08:09 |
| ashes | it's not a NAS, not a XBMC, not a firewall | 08:10 |
| ashes | it is good for nothing | 08:10 |
| ashes | it's a paperweight | 08:11 |
| ashes | linux doing nothing because nvidia is not cooperating | 08:12 |
| ashes | never buy nvidia. do not believe their sales bullshits about supporting new hardware. buy ati | 08:14 |
| ashes | never buy nvidia | 08:15 |
| ashes | ever | 08:15 |
| ashes | you will get fucked | 08:15 |
| ogra_ | can you stop the vendor bashing please ? | 08:15 |
| ashes | i'm fustrated | 08:16 |
| ogra_ | yes, but its not appropriate for this channel | 08:16 |
| ogra_ | did you download and install the codecs from nvidia ? we only have the GL drivers in the archive, not the codecs | 08:16 |
| ogra_ | so while GL apps will be fine, for video playback you will need additional bits | 08:17 |
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| isaias | any news on the new img? | 14:54 |
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| mosasaur | debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign --verbose precise http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 15:40 |
| mosasaur | /usr/sbin/debootstrap: 382: cd: can't cd to http://archive.ubuntu.com | 15:41 |
| mosasaur | where can I point debootstrap for an armhf? | 15:42 |
| mosasaur | I need a distro with gcc >= 4.6 | 15:43 |
| boern | hey guys, i just had a problem i would like to share with you.. i installed ubuntu on my nexus 7 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation) i did in manually.. the part where you flash your userdata normally takes you 80 seconds.. on my computer it took 960 seconds.. i though i did something wrong but now its working.. | 15:44 |
| boern | it* | 15:45 |
| isaias | boern: the new img is out? | 15:50 |
| isaias | :o | 15:50 |
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| ogra_ | mosasaur, its http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | mosasaur, also i would install qemu-user=static and use qemu-debootstrap, thats way smarter for creating a chroot (and you can directly chroot into it after debootstrap is done) | 17:51 |
| mosasaur | thanks ogra, but I still can't get it to work | 17:54 |
| mosasaur | debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign --verbose precise http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports | 17:54 |
| ogra_ | erm | 17:55 |
| ogra_ | you are missing the target dir | 17:55 |
| ogra_ | debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign --verbose precise /path/to/chroot http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports | 17:55 |
| ogra_ | mosasaur, ^^ | 17:55 |
| mosasaur | it works! | 17:56 |
| * mosasaur feels very stupid and happy now | 17:57 | |
| ogra_ | but really, use qemu-debootstrap ... saves you the whole second debootstrap run (and you dont need --foreign) | 17:58 |
| mosasaur | I'm kind of hacking this to work with ubuntu instead of debian: http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/debian-on-android | 17:59 |
| mosasaur | I had extract the build-arm-chroot script from an old lucid | 18:00 |
| mosasaur | but that script is just a thin wrapper around debootstrap it seems | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | yeah, that became qemu-debootstrap | 18:01 |
| mosasaur | thanks a lot ogra_ ! | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | well, its a lot more, the qemu-user-static package establishes a binfmt handler | 18:02 |
| ogra_ | which qemu-debootstrap uses ... this way you can just chroot into the armhf chroot on an x86 machine | 18:02 |
| mosasaur | I had to adapt it to make it think armhf is acceptable | 18:02 |
| ogra_ | you shouldnt need to | 18:03 |
| mosasaur | but indeed I could just do it all by myself, the problem is this is all very new to me | 18:03 |
| ogra_ | wow, that howto is really using ancient stuff | 18:03 |
| mosasaur | the script is so old it doesn't know armhf | 18:04 |
| ogra_ | yes, i know | 18:04 |
| * ogra_ wrote that stuff years ago | 18:04 | |
| mosasaur | what that is your script :p | 18:04 |
| ogra_ | but also havent touched it in years, debian adopted it into qemu-user-static | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | no, build-arm-chroot was mine | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | and the whole qemu-arm-static stuff | 18:05 |
| mosasaur | anyway it still works with a slight mod | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | right, the new way would be easier though :) | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | do you plan to have a full desktop install or just a basic environment | 18:06 |
| mosasaur | I'm making an image to run in a loop device on my android machine | 18:09 |
| mosasaur | the Android sdcard has a 4GB limit, becasue it's vfat | 18:09 |
| ogra_ | yes, but what do you plan to have inside that image ? | 18:09 |
| ogra_ | a desktop environment or just a basic commandline system | 18:10 |
| mosasaur | I need a gcc >= 4.6 and an armhf kernel to compile rtlsdr | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | we provide a tarball for armhf with a basic but unconfigured cmdline system | 18:11 |
| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/ | 18:11 |
| ogra_ | just grab it there | 18:11 |
| ogra_ | its pretty much what you get with debootstrap | 18:11 |
| ogra_ | so you can just untar it into your mounted image | 18:11 |
| mosasaur | OK thanks, but I was under the impression these are preconfigured for specific devices | 18:11 |
| ogra_ | nope, they are exactly not preconfigured so you can build images out of them ;) | 18:12 |
| ogra_ | thats the whole purpose of ubuntu-core | 18:12 |
| mosasaur | right I see, that is much easier | 18:12 |
| ogra_ | http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core#Login_in_.22root.22_without_the_need_of_a_password | 18:13 |
| ogra_ | you might want ths though | 18:13 |
| ogra_ | (i dont think your howto works without unlocking root ... ubuntu locks it by default) | 18:14 |
| mosasaur | I already had root by exploiting an exynos privilege escalation | 18:15 |
| mosasaur | but then I installed cyanogenmod and now I have that yellow triangle | 18:16 |
| ogra_ | i'm talking about your ubuntu environemnt | 18:16 |
| ogra_ | not about the underlying android | 18:16 |
| ogra_ | you either need to set a root password or unlick the root account in the image you are building | 18:17 |
| ogra_ | *unlock | 18:17 |
| mosasaur | I am setting a root password while I am still in a chroot on my ubuntu machine | 18:18 |
| ogra_ | ok | 18:18 |
| isaias | ++..................................................................+. | 18:18 |
| mosasaur | on the android machine I run it under a VNC | 18:18 |
| ogra_ | isaias, i fished out teh last known working nexus7 image from a backup ... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/last-good-image/ | 18:19 |
| ogra_ | isaias, it shoudl work with the manual install method described on the aiki | 18:19 |
| ogra_ | *wiki | 18:19 |
| mosasaur | but I read about someone making an xserver.apk, could not make it work on my device though | 18:19 |
| isaias | I just finished doing it :D | 18:19 |
| isaias | thank you! | 18:19 |
| ogra_ | isaias, you mean you already tried that specific image ? | 18:19 |
| isaias | just rebooted to see it works | 18:20 |
| isaias | its flashing | 18:20 |
| * ogra_ handt announced the url anywhere yet | 18:20 | |
| isaias | o, wait | 18:20 |
| isaias | its different | 18:20 |
| isaias | i went to /current | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | which one do you use ? | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | ah | 18:20 |
| isaias | it said it was uploaded today | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | thats likely exposing the same breakage | 18:20 |
| isaias | oh | 18:21 |
| isaias | ok | 18:21 |
| ogra_ | yes, i havent found the reason yet, but also havent tried the image from the 17th | 18:21 |
| isaias | aww xD | 18:21 |
| ogra_ | so it would be good if you could let it move on | 18:21 |
| isaias | well, I'll try it out :P | 18:21 |
| ogra_ | to report if its any different | 18:21 |
| isaias | anything special you want me to do? | 18:21 |
| ogra_ | no, just leave it do its thing | 18:22 |
| isaias | k | 18:22 |
| ogra_ | see if you get into the graphical installer after the splash screen or if it stays black | 18:22 |
| isaias | ok | 18:22 |
| isaias | i had tried an older img but it kept crashing. had to plug it in and wait for the "battery full" to show up to be able to turn it on | 18:23 |
| ogra_ | ah, yeah, battery should be charged when installing | 18:24 |
| isaias | scared me a little when i saw the messed up screen lol | 18:24 |
| isaias | battery was fully charged | 18:24 |
| ogra_ | the device seems to start behaving weird if it is below a certain value | 18:24 |
| isaias | ahh | 18:24 |
| ogra_ | at least for installing ... | 18:24 |
| isaias | The screen is black. I'll leave it for a few minutes to see is anything happens | 18:27 |
| ogra_ | yeah, the installer startup is very slow | 18:27 |
| isaias | something should have happenedc by nos | 18:36 |
| isaias | now* | 18:37 |
| ogra_ | yes | 18:37 |
| ogra_ | it shouldnt take more than 1-2min | 18:37 |
| ogra_ | i havent tested the "last-good-image" yet, but i think it should be fine | 18:37 |
| isaias | website says it would take up to 20 min | 18:37 |
| isaias | so I would be testing it? | 18:38 |
| * ogra_ is on a slow connection .... | 18:38 | |
| ogra_ | my download will still take 30min ... then i'll test it | 18:38 |
| ogra_ | if you can get it before, go ahead :) | 18:38 |
| isaias | 5 min for me | 18:38 |
| isaias | left, i mean | 18:38 |
| isaias | lol\ | 18:38 |
| mosasaur | where can I find /ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/Packages ? | 18:43 |
| mosasaur | I mean what do I put in my /etc/apt/sources.list | 18:43 |
| ogra_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672758/ | 18:44 |
| mosasaur | thanks ogra that works for precise too | 18:48 |
| isaias | waiting for my device to boot | 18:52 |
| * ogra_ crosses fingers | 18:52 | |
| isaias | no boot logo yet | 18:54 |
| * ogra_ is flashing | 18:55 | |
| Tassadar | good thing you're not sparkling yet) | 18:56 |
| ogra_ | haha | 18:56 |
| isaias | back xD | 18:56 |
| ogra_ | front | 18:56 |
| isaias | lol | 18:56 |
| isaias | its still not doing anything. You sure it wont take 20min or so? | 18:56 |
| isaias | like the website says xD | 18:57 |
| ogra_ | well, it should be busy unpacking the tarball | 18:57 |
| isaias | ok | 18:57 |
| ogra_ | but it also tells you that it is | 18:57 |
| isaias | not doing anything | 18:57 |
| ogra_ | "preparing the root filesystem, this will take several minutes ..." | 18:58 |
| isaias | it said that, then it all went dark | 18:58 |
| ogra_ | thats the "last good" one ? | 18:58 |
| isaias | yep | 18:58 |
| ogra_ | crap | 18:58 |
| isaias | would it be ok to disconect it from my computer after i try it again? | 18:58 |
| ogra_ | sure | 18:58 |
| isaias | while it says "preparing..." | 18:58 |
| ogra_ | yeah, doesnt do any harm | 18:59 |
| isaias | k. wI have to go in about 5 min for an hr or so. | 18:59 |
| isaias | but I'll be back. I'll try it again | 19:00 |
| isaias | good luck! | 19:00 |
| ogra_ | thx | 19:00 |
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| isaias | ogra_: you get it working? | 20:53 |
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| redtape-renegade | I am seriously thinking about doing this :: http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/11/looking-for-acer-c7-chrubuntu-tester.html | 21:56 |
| redtape-renegade | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350716277246?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 | 21:56 |
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| isaias | ogra_: i rebooted a few times and it seems to have booted up just fine this time | 23:41 |
| redtape-renegade | isaias: GOOD for you !! || \o/ || | 23:50 |
| isaias | i thought it did | 23:50 |
| isaias | its stuck on the weird colors | 23:50 |
| redtape-renegade | MMMmm.. not sure I can help .. I'm stuck sitting up-to 1am tonight to get this chromebook ::::: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350716277246?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 | 23:52 |
| k1l | !ot | redtape-renegade | 23:54 |
| ubot2 | redtape-renegade: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 23:54 |
| k1l | oh wait, this isnt the main support channel :/ but atleast its not a ARM chromebook so its offtopic :) | 23:55 |
| isaias | its working now. its installing | 23:58 |
| isaias | ogra_: its working, after several reboots | 23:59 |
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