[00:00] yes [00:00] dickmacinnis: are you dual-booting it? [00:01] I was, and having noticed that others doing so were getting this bug, I did a wipe and fresh install via the official installer. With the fresh install, I saw the plymouth splash for a little longer, but I get the same end result. [00:02] the image is broken. It happens, this is not stable release after all. I'm sure it will be fixed soon. [00:03] do you want some older working image? [00:04] Tassadar: yes, that would be fantastic. I just got my nexus7 yesterday, and can't find an older build anywhere. [00:04] https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img [00:04] from somebody on XDA [00:04] Tassadar: thanks so much! Downloading right now. [00:08] well, thank you for assuring me that it's the image and not multirom) === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [01:02] hi, so I've just flashed my Nexus 7 using the latest image, however the screen goes black after "localhost login: [Powering wi-fi]". It's stuck for more than 30 minutes now. Any thoughts? [01:02] [01:02] the image is broken. It happens, this is not stable release after all. I'm sure it will be fixed soon. [01:03] do you want some older working image? [01:03] Tassadar: sure i do, thanks [01:04] https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img [01:04] from someone on XDA, it's a bit old, so apt-get dist-upgrade will take long if you'll [01:06] ok thanks, i was following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation [01:07] now i should do like on manual install? [01:07] yeah [01:08] this is the fastboot image which you would install in step 1 of manual installation [01:08] *download [01:09] ok thanks, i'll give it a try [01:30] what bootimg should i use? [01:31] hmm, you can use the one from daily build [01:34] thanks, i'll try === isaias_ is now known as isaias [01:39] great, it's stuck at flashing bootimg -.- [01:40] hello [01:40] hi [01:40] how are things comming along with the new img? :) [01:40] mornin' [01:40] evenin' [01:41] don't know, but I have old image if you wanna) [01:41] what's the english word for being almost 2 am? [01:41] dunno, I used morning) [01:41] morning is good xD [01:41] its almost 10 here [01:41] pm [01:42] an old image would be amazing. i bought the nexus 7, and havent been able to use it, lol [01:42] https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img [01:42] * Tassadar hopes that dropbox account won't get banned because of too many downloads) [01:42] i'm trying to flash that one, im stuck for 10min at flashing bootimg tho [01:42] it's stuck, just....reboot nexus and try again [01:43] it shouldn't break anything, it's just boot image [01:43] is this one boot or userdata? [01:44] userdata [01:44] thank you :D [01:44] boot from current daily should/could work okay [01:44] retrying, i'm afraid to waste 300€ hence didnt reboot :P [01:45] ok, took 1 second now [01:46] yeah, that's how it should be) [01:46] i can just use the new boot, and the userdata you sent me, right? [01:46] ok, lol === k1l_ is now known as k1l === k1l is now known as k1l_ [02:00] it worked :) [02:00] will i need to learn a specific language to modify (add a usable program/app) for the tablet when the final product come out? or will it be more like PC where i can use whatever? [02:00] what I mean is, with ubuntu phone, they're telling me I have to learn QML [02:01] well, we still don't really know what the "final" product is in case of Nexus 7 [02:01] will I be able to run a compiler? lol [02:01] yes [02:01] well [02:01] I have no idea [02:01] now you can :D [02:02] then I'm happy :) [02:02] Ubuntu phone apps will be using c++ and QML [02:02] damn, keyboard doesn't show up lol and i still don't have my usb otg adapter [02:02] joao: are in the "installation wizard"? try to reboot it [02:02] i'm working on my C++, but they're telling me that for now, apps will only be in QML [02:03] QML is the UI [02:03] yes, trying to put my name and stuff, i'll reboot [02:03] it's more like "scripting language" [02:04] you are not expected to say, render a web page in that language [02:04] i never heard of QML. fairly new to programming, lol [02:05] but, for example simple actions like "User toggles checkbox -> button gets enabled/disabled" should be in there [02:05] ok [02:05] it looks much better to me than Android and "Java", that's for sure) [02:05] isnt there a way to reboot while on the "installation wizard" other than "brute force" ? [02:05] main reason I chose C++ is because I want to do more with my Ubuntu. If Ubuntu-Phone doesnt support apps in C++, it will be kind of dissapointing [02:06] joao: I think not, because your username/password is not yet created, so you can't even log in to console [02:07] it will support C++ afaik [02:07] http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem [02:07] I just spent whole day trying to write "driver" for USB ACM device using Android USB API, and it's still not working as I would image :/ [02:08] Tassadar, i believe people do android drier development on ubuntu and the like [02:09] I'm sorry, what? ubuntu like channel #ubuntu? [02:09] Tassadar: hey, if you're scared your dropbox will get deleted because of the downloads, feel free to give out mine [02:09] Tassadar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w06cl3llrgccarv/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img [02:10] isaias: Um...it _might_ not be mine, it's somebody's from XDA [02:10] ahh [02:10] either way, you have 2 links, in case one gets deleted xD [02:12] I should go to bed [02:12] well, good night [02:14] gn8, better luck tomorrow :P === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [02:49] i can dissconect my nexus7 while its flashing, right? [03:00] i did, nothing bad happened [03:19] hey, how do i get the onboard keyboard working? im trying to connect to my router [03:20] click in the input box [03:20] a input box [03:20] im tapping it, nothing is happenning, lol [03:21] :( [03:22] no onboard keyboard is comming up in any input boxes [03:25] any help with this? [03:29] i dont have a keybord with a usb that will plug into my nexus === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [05:12] :/ [05:12] this keeps crashing [07:44] i'm curious what you do with your ubuntu-arm machines [07:44] i have one, and i don't know what to do with it [07:45] i have another arm machine running as a NAS, so i don't need another [07:45] i'm in a home environment [07:51] i have a seagate goflex archlinux NAS. it's able to do what it can do. it's simple. i have a trim slice, which can do a tiny bit more, regardless of being a nvidia cpu. i would like to put the trim slice to use, somehow [07:51] the goflex is owned. i can run buildroot on it, or cross-linuxfromscratch. it's owned [07:52] the trimslice begs gpu drivers [07:52] ashes: the tegra2-driver that's used on the ac100 works fine on the trimslice [07:53] "fine" [07:53] i have tried taloring video for the trim slice, and it still doesn't run well [07:53] as well as nvidia's beta-drivers work [07:53] it stops [07:54] i thought it was an i/o problem, and it's something else [07:54] it means i need a backend to recode stuff [07:55] video plays, but really badly [07:55] ashes: which drivers are you sporting? [07:56] h264 [07:56] if you can give me a link to a video that should play well on a trim slice, and if it plays well, i will shut up about the hardware problems [07:57] i will figure it out from there [07:58] h264 is a video-codec, i was asking about which display-drivers are you using? [07:58] the tegra2 has a hard time playing anything hd, so that's mainly out of the question [07:59] x11, nvidia. [08:01] in reality, i will never ever buy nvidia again, like ever. i thought i was finished 10 years ago, and today you will need to spike red hot spikes in me before i agree to this again [08:01] i am trying to salvage this machine, and its not easy [08:02] it does shit in 1/8th the time of my laptop [08:02] so finding a use for it is hard [08:03] uhm [08:03] 100/8ths [08:04] the gpu is the only useful part [08:04] and it's not usefull [08:06] nvidia has made me check over every single driver when i buy hardware, to make sure none of it is nvidia [08:06] they have done the final nail [08:06] i did this when i bought my laptop [08:07] and for some reason when i bought my arm system i went retarded [08:08] 'nvidia, sure, trust them to give me drivers!' [08:08] or, not [08:09] i have a machine i paid $250 for, th [08:09] i have a machine i paid $250 for, with a nvidia cpu/gpu, and it's good for nothing to me [08:10] it's not a NAS, not a XBMC, not a firewall [08:10] it is good for nothing [08:11] it's a paperweight [08:12] linux doing nothing because nvidia is not cooperating [08:14] never buy nvidia. do not believe their sales bullshits about supporting new hardware. buy ati [08:15] never buy nvidia [08:15] ever [08:15] you will get fucked [08:15] can you stop the vendor bashing please ? [08:16] i'm fustrated [08:16] yes, but its not appropriate for this channel [08:16] did you download and install the codecs from nvidia ? we only have the GL drivers in the archive, not the codecs [08:17] so while GL apps will be fine, for video playback you will need additional bits === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [14:54] any news on the new img? === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [15:40] debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign --verbose precise http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [15:41] /usr/sbin/debootstrap: 382: cd: can't cd to http://archive.ubuntu.com [15:42] where can I point debootstrap for an armhf? [15:43] I need a distro with gcc >= 4.6 [15:44] hey guys, i just had a problem i would like to share with you.. i installed ubuntu on my nexus 7 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation) i did in manually.. the part where you flash your userdata normally takes you 80 seconds.. on my computer it took 960 seconds.. i though i did something wrong but now its working.. [15:45] it* [15:50] boern: the new img is out? [15:50] :o === yofel_ is now known as yofel === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [17:50] mosasaur, its http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports [17:51] mosasaur, also i would install qemu-user=static and use qemu-debootstrap, thats way smarter for creating a chroot (and you can directly chroot into it after debootstrap is done) [17:54] thanks ogra, but I still can't get it to work [17:54] debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign --verbose precise http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports [17:55] erm [17:55] you are missing the target dir [17:55] debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign --verbose precise /path/to/chroot http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports [17:55] mosasaur, ^^ [17:56] it works! [17:57] * mosasaur feels very stupid and happy now [17:58] but really, use qemu-debootstrap ... saves you the whole second debootstrap run (and you dont need --foreign) [17:59] I'm kind of hacking this to work with ubuntu instead of debian: http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/debian-on-android [18:00] I had extract the build-arm-chroot script from an old lucid [18:01] but that script is just a thin wrapper around debootstrap it seems [18:01] yeah, that became qemu-debootstrap [18:01] thanks a lot ogra_ ! [18:02] well, its a lot more, the qemu-user-static package establishes a binfmt handler [18:02] which qemu-debootstrap uses ... this way you can just chroot into the armhf chroot on an x86 machine [18:02] I had to adapt it to make it think armhf is acceptable [18:03] you shouldnt need to [18:03] but indeed I could just do it all by myself, the problem is this is all very new to me [18:03] wow, that howto is really using ancient stuff [18:04] the script is so old it doesn't know armhf [18:04] yes, i know [18:04] * ogra_ wrote that stuff years ago [18:04] what that is your script :p [18:05] but also havent touched it in years, debian adopted it into qemu-user-static [18:05] no, build-arm-chroot was mine [18:05] and the whole qemu-arm-static stuff [18:05] anyway it still works with a slight mod [18:05] right, the new way would be easier though :) [18:06] do you plan to have a full desktop install or just a basic environment [18:09] I'm making an image to run in a loop device on my android machine [18:09] the Android sdcard has a 4GB limit, becasue it's vfat [18:09] yes, but what do you plan to have inside that image ? [18:10] a desktop environment or just a basic commandline system [18:10] I need a gcc >= 4.6 and an armhf kernel to compile rtlsdr [18:11] we provide a tarball for armhf with a basic but unconfigured cmdline system [18:11] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/ [18:11] just grab it there [18:11] its pretty much what you get with debootstrap [18:11] so you can just untar it into your mounted image [18:11] OK thanks, but I was under the impression these are preconfigured for specific devices [18:12] nope, they are exactly not preconfigured so you can build images out of them ;) [18:12] thats the whole purpose of ubuntu-core [18:12] right I see, that is much easier [18:13] http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core#Login_in_.22root.22_without_the_need_of_a_password [18:13] you might want ths though [18:14] (i dont think your howto works without unlocking root ... ubuntu locks it by default) [18:15] I already had root by exploiting an exynos privilege escalation [18:16] but then I installed cyanogenmod and now I have that yellow triangle [18:16] i'm talking about your ubuntu environemnt [18:16] not about the underlying android [18:17] you either need to set a root password or unlick the root account in the image you are building [18:17] *unlock [18:18] I am setting a root password while I am still in a chroot on my ubuntu machine [18:18] ok [18:18] ++..................................................................+. [18:18] on the android machine I run it under a VNC [18:19] isaias, i fished out teh last known working nexus7 image from a backup ... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/last-good-image/ [18:19] isaias, it shoudl work with the manual install method described on the aiki [18:19] *wiki [18:19] but I read about someone making an xserver.apk, could not make it work on my device though [18:19] I just finished doing it :D [18:19] thank you! [18:19] isaias, you mean you already tried that specific image ? [18:20] just rebooted to see it works [18:20] its flashing [18:20] * ogra_ handt announced the url anywhere yet [18:20] o, wait [18:20] its different [18:20] i went to /current [18:20] which one do you use ? [18:20] ah [18:20] it said it was uploaded today [18:20] thats likely exposing the same breakage [18:21] oh [18:21] ok [18:21] yes, i havent found the reason yet, but also havent tried the image from the 17th [18:21] aww xD [18:21] so it would be good if you could let it move on [18:21] well, I'll try it out :P [18:21] to report if its any different [18:21] anything special you want me to do? [18:22] no, just leave it do its thing [18:22] k [18:22] see if you get into the graphical installer after the splash screen or if it stays black [18:22] ok [18:23] i had tried an older img but it kept crashing. had to plug it in and wait for the "battery full" to show up to be able to turn it on [18:24] ah, yeah, battery should be charged when installing [18:24] scared me a little when i saw the messed up screen lol [18:24] battery was fully charged [18:24] the device seems to start behaving weird if it is below a certain value [18:24] ahh [18:24] at least for installing ... [18:27] The screen is black. I'll leave it for a few minutes to see is anything happens [18:27] yeah, the installer startup is very slow [18:36] something should have happenedc by nos [18:37] now* [18:37] yes [18:37] it shouldnt take more than 1-2min [18:37] i havent tested the "last-good-image" yet, but i think it should be fine [18:37] website says it would take up to 20 min [18:38] so I would be testing it? [18:38] * ogra_ is on a slow connection .... [18:38] my download will still take 30min ... then i'll test it [18:38] if you can get it before, go ahead :) [18:38] 5 min for me [18:38] left, i mean [18:38] lol\ [18:43] where can I find /ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/Packages ? [18:43] I mean what do I put in my /etc/apt/sources.list [18:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672758/ [18:48] thanks ogra that works for precise too [18:52] waiting for my device to boot [18:52] * ogra_ crosses fingers [18:54] no boot logo yet [18:55] * ogra_ is flashing [18:56] good thing you're not sparkling yet) [18:56] haha [18:56] back xD [18:56] front [18:56] lol [18:56] its still not doing anything. You sure it wont take 20min or so? [18:57] like the website says xD [18:57] well, it should be busy unpacking the tarball [18:57] ok [18:57] but it also tells you that it is [18:57] not doing anything [18:58] "preparing the root filesystem, this will take several minutes ..." [18:58] it said that, then it all went dark [18:58] thats the "last good" one ? [18:58] yep [18:58] crap [18:58] would it be ok to disconect it from my computer after i try it again? [18:58] sure [18:58] while it says "preparing..." [18:59] yeah, doesnt do any harm [18:59] k. wI have to go in about 5 min for an hr or so. [19:00] but I'll be back. I'll try it again [19:00] good luck! [19:00] thx === doko_ is now known as doko [20:53] ogra_: you get it working? === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [21:56] I am seriously thinking about doing this :: http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/11/looking-for-acer-c7-chrubuntu-tester.html [21:56] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350716277246?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 === sv is now known as discopig [23:41] ogra_: i rebooted a few times and it seems to have booted up just fine this time [23:50] isaias: GOOD for you !! || \o/ || [23:50] i thought it did [23:50] its stuck on the weird colors [23:52] MMMmm.. not sure I can help .. I'm stuck sitting up-to 1am tonight to get this chromebook ::::: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350716277246?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 [23:54] !ot | redtape-renegade [23:54] redtape-renegade: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [23:55] oh wait, this isnt the main support channel :/ but atleast its not a ARM chromebook so its offtopic :) [23:58] its working now. its installing [23:59] ogra_: its working, after several reboots