[00:40] <dingo> maxb: thanks for clearing that up.
[02:17] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[02:17] <mattwj2002> :D
[02:17] <dandkburt> does the support also includ eapache here
[02:18] <mattwj2002> !ask dandkburt
[02:18] <mattwj2002> !ask
[02:18] <mattwj2002> it doesn't hurt to try in my opinion
[02:18] <dandkburt> how do I set up vhost for apache2
[02:20] <mattwj2002> what version of ubuntu?
[02:21] <dandkburt> whats the command to find out
[02:21] <dandkburt> lol
[02:21] <dandkburt> i don't remember
[02:21] <mattwj2002> :P
[02:21] <mattwj2002> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
[02:21] <mattwj2002> uname -a
[02:22] <mattwj2002> that may work
[02:22] <dandkburt> already tried that
[02:22] <mattwj2002> lol
[02:22] <mattwj2002> cat /etc/apt/source.list
[02:22] <mattwj2002> or is that sources
[02:22] <mattwj2002> :-/
[02:22] <mattwj2002> that'll show you the name in the apt-get stuff
[02:23] <dandkburt> lol
[02:23] <dandkburt> 5 lines
[02:23] <mattwj2002> yeah
[02:23] <mattwj2002> what is the name though
[02:23] <mattwj2002> for example Precise
[02:23] <dandkburt> for the ubuntu
[02:24] <dandkburt> its the newest one on Chicogovps
[02:24] <dandkburt> I think it is 11.05
[02:24] <dandkburt> or somthing
[02:24] <mattwj2002> 11.04?
[02:24] <dandkburt> might be
[02:24] <mattwj2002> well anyways....try that link
[02:24] <maxb> 'lsb_release -a' is the command you're looking for
[02:24] <mattwj2002> thanks maxb
[02:25] <mattwj2002> maxb are you good at Apache?
[02:25] <dandkburt> yes thanks max
[02:25] <dandkburt> 11.04
[02:25] <dandkburt> and that link only helps me a little
[02:25] <dandkburt> i did all it told me
[02:26] <dandkburt> and still nothing
[02:27] <mattwj2002> I am not an Apache expert
[02:27] <maxb> 11.04 is end-of-lifed already, you really should consider updating, probably to 12.04 which is a long term support release if you don't like upgrading every six months
[02:27] <dandkburt> maxb
[02:28] <dandkburt> I don't know if that is permitted with my vps host
[02:29] <maxb> The problem with a question like "how do I set up vhost for apache2" is that it's too broad. It's difficult to answer with anything more specific than a pointer to a section of documentation. If you need further help, the key to effective use of IRC tech help channels is making your questions as specific and detailed as possible.
[02:30] <dandkburt> k
[02:30] <maxb> And if your VPS host doesn't provide a way for you to run an OS that has current security support...... they really really suck :-)
[02:30] <dandkburt> i am looking for someone to assist me on it
[02:31] <mattwj2002> how long is lts for?
[02:31] <dandkburt> perminant
[02:32] <maxb> New LTS releases happen every two years, each one is supported for 3 years generally, and 5 years in a limited server-oriented subset
[02:32] <mattwj2002> thanks maxb
[02:32] <maxb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[02:33] <mattwj2002> 2017!
[02:33] <maxb> Oh, apparently the 3y/5y split is old info, according to that wiki page.
[02:33] <mattwj2002> w00t :)
[02:34] <mattwj2002> yeah I see that starting with 12.04
[02:34] <mattwj2002> 5 years is a long time O.o
[02:34] <mattwj2002> that is like 500 years in IT :P
[02:35] <maxb> It really is, but on the other hand, legacy systems refuse to die.
[02:35] <mattwj2002> true
[02:35] <mattwj2002> 14.04 will be the next lts?
[02:36]  * maxb has inherited partial responsibility for a production MySQL 4.0 system :-/
[02:36] <mattwj2002> oh my!
[02:37] <mattwj2002> so you can say it really is a mysql
[02:37] <mattwj2002> :P
[02:37] <mattwj2002> you own it in other words
[02:37] <mattwj2002> :)
[02:38] <maxb> Whilst I don't think it's actually documented anywhere as ongoing fact, the "every fourth release is an LTS" convention has held true since Ubuntu LTSes were created
[02:39] <mattwj2002> okay cool
[02:39] <mattwj2002> that is what I thought
[02:39] <mattwj2002> long live ubuntu!
[02:40] <maxb> By 17.10 we'll have run out of letters :-)
[02:40] <mattwj2002> haha
[02:40] <mattwj2002> they will have to go back to a!
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> maxb: We have a system at work that's running Solaris I think 9, on even older hardware.
[02:44] <mattwj2002> O.o
[02:44] <maxb> Yeouch, I think that beats even my Slackware 10 machines
[02:44] <mattwj2002> is solaris even still around?
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> We're working on killing it...slowly.
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> mattwj2002: eh, not really.  Last release was 2011, but it's not nearly the player it once was.
[02:46] <mattwj2002> what do unix when you can do linux!
[02:46] <mattwj2002> :)
[02:46] <mattwj2002> *why do
[02:46] <mattwj2002> even companies like Google, Cisco and Juniper are adapting either freebsd or linux
[02:46] <mattwj2002> Apple too
[03:31] <thomas573> Hello, I'm following this tutorial (http://blog.sudobits.com/2013/01/07/how-to-deploy-rails-application-to-vps/) but when I try 'mv id_rsa.pub .ssh/authorized_keys' in my remote ubuntu server I get 'mv: cannot stat `id_rsa.pub': No such file or directory' Any ideas?
[03:34] <holstein> thomas573: there is no file there
[03:34] <holstein> thomas573: you are dealing with setting up ssh key access
[03:34] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[03:34] <holstein> seperate the ruby from that.. this has nothing to do with ruby
[03:35] <thomas573> IIs it because I typed 'mkdir .ssh' instead of 'mkdir ~/.ssh'?
[03:35] <thomas573> holstein: Is it because I typed 'mkdir .ssh' instead of 'mkdir ~/.ssh'?
[03:36] <holstein> thomas573: do you have a .ssh directory in your /home?
[03:36] <holstein> you can look in / and see if its there
[03:37] <thomas573> holstein: on my remote server?
[03:38] <holstein> thomas573: i would just stop doing what you are doing, and read the ssh documentation
[03:38] <holstein> thomas573: you are only setting up ssh key access.. you can do that and *then* get back to the tutorial
[03:39] <thomas573> holstein: but I already have ssh on my local computer with bitbucket, i just want to upload it to my remote server
[03:39] <holstein> thomas573: sure.. so you set it up on that server
[03:40] <thomas573> holstein: What are the keywords I have to type?
[03:40] <holstein> thomas573: i usually just follow that guide i dropped
[03:41] <thomas573> holstein: Seems kind of information overdoing it, no?
[03:41] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/61557/how-do-i-set-up-ssh-authentication-keys
[03:41] <holstein> thomas573: not reall
[03:41] <holstein> thomas573: you are setting up something that if done incorrectly, could be a security risk
[03:44] <thomas573> holstein: Ok dokey, so just ssh-copy-id user@hostname
[03:45] <holstein> thomas573: i would say, read up on what each of those commands do, and see what best suits your needs
[10:50] <jack43> Hello, I am following this tutorial, but when I try to log in as deployer I get "ssh: connect to host 555.55.555.55 port 22: Connection refused" (http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/) but while I log in as
[10:51] <jack43> Any ideas?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> jack43, read what you posted.  I think you cut some of it off
[10:52] <jack43> cfhowlett: Yea, just ignore the 'but while I log in as'....I was rearranging the sentence
[10:52] <jack43> cfhowlett: I followed those exact steps in the tutorial and I get that error once I try to login as deployer
[10:54] <jack43> cfhowlett: Any ideas?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> jack43, I have to bunt on this one.  Servers are far from my area of expertise ...
[10:54] <cfhowlett> jack43, stay in channel, ask again.
[10:55] <jack43> sjefen6: Any ideas?
[10:55] <jack43> Any help is appreciated.
[10:59] <jack43> #vps
[10:59] <jack43> #digitalocean
[10:59] <jack43> #ubuntu
[11:01] <cfhowlett> jack43, you mabye mean to type /j ubuntu or /join #ubuntu   ?
[11:57] <jack43> I'm trying to install rbenv and ruby in my Ubuntu remote server, but I keep getting this: deployer@HostName:~$ rbenv bootstrap-ubuntu-12-04 -bash: rbenv: command not found
[11:57] <jack43> Any ideas?
[12:27] <ruben231> hi guyd any suggestion load balance two apache web server..? so share load..any idea guys
[12:36] <melmoth> ruben231, haproxy ?
[12:38] <ruben231> melmoth:any how to.>? i ahve two apache web server only
[12:39] <melmoth> i dont know the details, but i think it s mainly about setting one config file where you give haproxy the ip of the apache server
[12:39] <melmoth> and it take charge of balancing the requests. You ll have to read some doc to get the details
[14:25] <sliddjur> So I generated a secret-key-ABC123.asc file with gpg . What are they for?
[14:26] <andol> sliddjur: How did you generate that file? --export-secret-keys?
[14:27] <sliddjur> in windows. because my server failed to do gpg --gen-key
[14:28] <sliddjur> I just know I need to use these with duplicity. Im trying to figure out how it works :)
[14:28] <sliddjur> Are they like ssh keys where u have a public and a private key?
[14:29] <melmoth> yep
[14:29] <andol> sliddjur: Yepp, the regular use of gpg is with public/private keys, even if you can do symmetrical encryption as well, which duplicyt also happens to support by the way
[14:30] <andol> sliddjur: On the server you will be able to import exportered keyfiles using gpg --import. Nevertheless, it really wouldn't hurt to figure out why gpg --gen-key fails for you.
[14:31] <sliddjur> "Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 283 more bytes)"
[14:32] <sliddjur> andol: and it just stands there
[14:32] <andol> sliddjur: I usually solve that by copying files around in a parallell shell.
[14:33] <andol> (copying files around, and hence generating disk activity.)
[14:34] <sliddjur> cp -R /var/ /asdf/ now
[14:37] <sliddjur> well. doesnt seem like that was enough?
[14:39] <andol> sliddjur: Then you do it again, and again? :) Preferably saving yourself some effort by putting in a loop
[14:41] <sliddjur> How much data is 283 bytes?
[14:41] <sliddjur> :S
[14:41] <sliddjur> I mean how long time could it take
[14:41] <andol> sliddjur: Not amount of data, amount of "true" entropy.
[14:42] <sliddjur> I dont even know what entropy means
[14:43] <andol> sliddjur: In this context, randonmess, even if I guess lack of order is a more general meaning.
[14:50] <sliddjur> andol: so i should just keep the gpg app open wile doing all this randomness?
[14:51] <andol> sliddjur: yepp
[14:53] <sliddjur> andol: not rerun gpg?
[14:55] <andol> sliddjur: As long as it still says it is waiting it is better to keep it running, or it will need to start needing entropy from scratch.
[14:55] <jack34> when I run cap deploy:cold, I get this error message: PG::Error: ERROR:  permission denied to create extension "unaccent"  HINT:  Must be superuser to create this extension. Does anyone know how I can give my normal user superuser privileges?
[14:55] <sliddjur> yepp it actually updated now. it needs 92 more bytes
[14:57] <sliddjur> what the hell. now it needs more again. need 115
[14:58] <andol> sliddjur: Because your key actually consists of two keys, so I'm fairly certain the jump is due to it generating the second (sub)key.
[15:15] <sliddjur> andol: i am probably inside a virtual machine aswell. would that matter on my entropy levels?
[15:17] <andol> sliddjur: Yes, in the context that it is less obvious how to trigger entropy-generation in a virtual machine, and that a virtual machine might have to share the physical machines entropy pool with other virtual machines.
[15:21] <jack34> I matched all of my database.yml production information and still get this error after sudo cap deploy:cold - PG::Error: ERROR:  permission denied to create extension "unaccent" HINT:  Must be superuser to create this extension. Any ideas?
[15:21] <jack34> #postgres
[15:27] <sliddjur> andol: http://www.howtoforge.com/helping-the-random-number-generator-to-gain-enough-entropy-with-rng-tools-debian-lenny this worked . now i generated a key in two seconds
[15:30] <andol> sliddjur: Yepp, generating "fake" randomness is a lot faster :) Often, but not always, it is also good enough. Depending on how paranoid/security concious you want to be I guess you'll have to decide whatever to keep rng-tools running or not.
[15:31] <sliddjur> so where are my files ?
[15:31] <sliddjur> andol: I uninstalled rng tools
[15:31] <andol> sliddjur: ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg and ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg. Usually you will only interact with those files indirectly, by calling gpg or so.
[15:33] <sliddjur> its in my personal homedir. should i move it to /root since root runs dupliciity?
[15:34] <andol> sliddjur: I would do that. While root can still read those files in your personal homedir it is unncesary for your regular user to have access to them in case they are only used by root.
[15:35] <andol> sliddjur: Also, by having them in root's homedir they will be covered by being in the default path.
[15:56] <duncan-nz> I've been trying to setup a samba server. I tried to generate an SSH key with Puttygen on windows. Now that machine still has access (and still says it doesn't recognise the fingerprint - I never worked out how to copy it over) but other machines on this network can't get access. Obviously I've done something wrong. Any ideas?
[15:56] <duncan-nz> the serve is on ubuntu, but i'm trying to get access from my windows laptop.
[16:04] <sliddjur> andol: after I moved the folder: http://pastebin.com/gX296SV4
[16:05] <sliddjur> duncan-nz: you can copy files over winscp application
[16:05] <sliddjur> with
[16:55] <agu10^> What domain registrar would you recommend?
[17:00] <jack34> I finally  finished this deployment tutorial (http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/), but when I type in the IP address in Safari, I get safari can't connect to the server. Any ideas?
[17:04] <ikonia> jack34: probably because it's using host headers, which an IP won't contain
[17:05] <ikonia> jack34: I assume you are using your own IP, rather than the example one in the document
[17:05] <jack34> ikonia: Yes, I am using the IP from DigitalOcean VPS
[17:06] <jack34> ikonia: What should I replace?
[17:07] <ikonia> jack34: that's someone elses IP
[17:07] <ikonia> jack34: (you are using the IP address in the document yes ?)
[17:07] <jack34> ikonia: No, I'm using the one DigitalOcean VPS emailed to me.
[17:07] <agu10^> What domain registrar would you recommend?
[17:08] <ikonia> jack34: ok, so it's "your" ip address
[17:08] <ikonia> jack34: first thing is check the web server is running
[17:08] <ikonia> agu10^: anyone you want
[17:08] <agu10^> why?
[17:08] <ikonia> agu10^: why what ?
[17:08] <agu10^> i don't want to use godaddy
[17:08] <agu10^> they're the devil
[17:08] <ikonia> agu10^: then don't use them, use what ones you like
[17:09] <ikonia> jack34: I'm assuming you're trying to connect to the web service
[17:09] <agu10^> i don't know any others. that's what i'm asking for
[17:09] <ikonia> agu10^: google
[17:09] <ikonia> agu10^: there are many
[17:10] <jack34> ikonia: i finished everything in that tutorial and everything looked good until I tried opening my IP address in the browser....it says "Page not available"
[17:10] <ikonia> jack34: first verify you can connect to the socket
[17:10] <jack34> ikonia: I basically am trying to redeploy my heroku app to digital ocean
[17:11] <jack34> ikonia: How do I do that?
[17:11] <ikonia> jack34: what port are you trying to connect to ?
[17:11] <jack34> ikonia: 3030
[17:11] <ikonia> jack34: ok, so do a test where you telnet to the ip/port you are trying to connect to
[17:12] <jack34> ikonia: how can I check the remote ubuntu server logs?
[17:12] <ikonia> jack34: please do the test I asked
[17:12] <jack34> ikonia: How do I do that telnet thing you're talking about?
[17:12] <ikonia> jack34: .....really ?
[17:13] <ikonia> jack34: telnet hostname(or ip) port
[17:13] <jack34> ikonia: I'm a noob :(
[17:15] <jack34> ikonia: It seems to have connected
[17:16] <jack34> ikonia: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-3ubuntu1
[17:16] <ikonia> jack34: what command did you use exactly
[17:16] <jack34> telnet <IP ADDRESS> 3030
[17:16] <ikonia> jack34: then why is ssh listening on 3030
[17:17] <ikonia> jack34: ssh should not be listning on 3030
[17:17] <ikonia> jack34: that appears to be why your webbrowser can't do anything with it - it's not running a webserver on 3030
[17:17] <jack34> ikonia: How do I fix this?
[17:18] <jack34> ikonia: I followed exactly what that tutorial told me
[17:18] <ikonia> jack34: stop the ssh server running on 3030, bind your application/web server to 3030, so when a web browser hits it, there is something there
[17:18] <ikonia> jack34: contact the people who wrote the guide
[17:19] <ikonia> jack34: quickly scanning that guide, you should not be connecting on 3030
[17:19] <ikonia> you should be connecting on 80
[17:19] <jack34> ikonia: Which keywords to I type to stop the ssh server and bind the app/web server to 3030?
[17:19] <ikonia> jack34: please check what I just said
[17:20] <jack34> ikonia: In the tutorial it says: # Change your port access. Our Example uses 3030 Port 3030
[17:20] <ikonia> jack34: yes, re-read what I've just said
[17:21] <jack34> I think I know the problem now..
[17:21] <jack34> one sec
[17:24] <jack34> ikonia: Okay, so do I have to change /etc/ssh/sshd_config on my ubuntu server back to port 80?
[17:24] <ikonia> jack34: no
[17:24] <ikonia> ssh does no run on port 80
[17:24] <ikonia> please re-read what I said
[17:24] <ikonia> you should not be connecting directly on port 3030
[17:24] <jack34> ikonia: I'm readin, I'm readin
[17:25] <jack34> ikonia: Specifically, which directories and keywords to I need to input to make these necessary changes?
[17:25] <ikonia> jack34: there are no changes
[17:25] <jack34> ikonia: I'm new to VPS, coming from Heroku
[17:26] <jack34> ikonia: I just need more specifics :(
[17:26] <ikonia> you need to read what I've said
[17:26] <jack34> Ok, lets break it down in steps
[17:26] <ikonia> no, you need to read what I've said
[17:27] <jack34> Step 1) stop the ssh server running on 3030
[17:27] <ikonia> no
[17:27] <duncan-nz> I am correct to be surprised that one of my machines can't get ssh access to my new server ... even though I haven't set up public keys? It should just connect and give me a login window right?
[17:27] <jack34> ikonia: What then?
[17:27] <ikonia> duncan-nz: sorry what ? can you try to explain that
[17:27] <ikonia> jack34: I'm not saying it again.
[17:28] <jack34> ikonia: Why are you so angry?
[17:28] <ikonia> jack34: I'm not angry at all
[17:28] <jack34> ikonia: You're talking in generalities as if I'm a VPS genius
[17:28] <ikonia> jack34: no I'm not
[17:28] <ikonia> jack34: this has onthing to do with "vps"
[17:28] <ikonia> jack34: I suggest contacting the people who wrote that guide
[17:29] <ikonia> jack34: if you are unable to follow the basic instructions I've given you
[17:29] <jack34> I'm new to SSH too, I just need more specifics
[17:29] <ikonia> jack34: they can support their own documentation
[17:29] <duncan-nz> I've just set up a server (12.04) and for some reason this machine win machine with putty) can get an ssh connection and log in, but my ubuntu machine on the name network can't get in.
[17:29] <ikonia> jack34: it has nothing to do with ssh
[17:29] <ikonia> duncan-nz: sounds odd
[17:29] <ikonia> duncan-nz: how are you conncting, by dns/host or IP
[17:29] <jack34> ikonia: Which line of yours do you want me to reread>
[17:30] <ikonia> jack34: none, I'm not going to tell you again
[17:30] <duncan-nz> just typing the machines name on the network.
[17:30] <ikonia> duncan-nz: try it on IP
[17:30] <ikonia> duncan-nz: I suspect dns maybe failing you
[17:31] <duncan-nz> so if i run ifconfig on the server am I looking for the ipv4 address?
[17:31] <ikonia> duncan-nz: yes
[17:32] <jack34> ikonia: I'm sorry I upset you. I really am new to this.
[17:32] <ikonia> you've not upset me at all
[17:33] <jack34> Usually I get specific helpful answers in this irc
[17:33] <ikonia> jack34: you got specific help
[17:33] <jack34> I'm sorry I've irritated you
[17:33] <ikonia> you've not irritated me
[17:34] <jack34> ikonia: Yes, they would tell me exactly what directory or keywords I would need to input and what it means
[17:34] <Psi-Jack> jack34: However you're about to start. :)
[17:34] <ikonia> jack34: I've given you specific informaiton from scanning through the doucment you are using
[17:35] <ikonia> jack34: I've stated maybe 3 times you sould not be connecting to port 3030 with your browser
[17:35] <jack34> jack34: Then how do I fix it?
[17:36] <ikonia> fix what ?
[17:36] <ikonia> you're connecting to the wrong port
[17:36] <ikonia> you're connecting to the ssh port you use to deploy the app with your web browser
[17:36] <ikonia> ssh is not a web browser application
[17:37] <jack34> ikonia: So how do I stop connecting to the wrong port and connect to the right one?
[17:37] <ikonia> jack34: you understand how web applications work ?
[17:37] <jack34> ikonia: yes
[17:37] <ikonia> jack34: right, so what port does a web browser normally connect to ?
[17:37]  * ikonia waits why jack34 googles
[17:38] <jack34> ikonia: port 80?
[17:38] <ikonia> jack34: right,
[17:38] <ikonia> jack34: so why are you tryin gto connect to port 3030 with your web browser ?
[17:38] <duncan-nz> okay, so it was bcast (there was no entry called ipv4) so now it works. Why can one machine get in with the server name and the other only by using the IP address?
[17:38] <jack34> I use Bing :)
[17:38] <ikonia> jack34: the example shown in the document doesn't show a connection using 3030
[17:38] <ikonia> duncan-nz: sorry what ?
[17:38] <ikonia> duncan-nz: it was bcast ?
[17:38] <duncan-nz> yup
[17:39] <ikonia> what is bcast ?
[17:39] <ikonia> broadcast ?
[17:39] <ikonia> duncan-nz: there has to be an IPv4 entry
[17:39] <ikonia> that's how it's on the network
[17:40] <duncan-nz> sorry, i wrote wrong. there's line that says inet addr:192.168.x.xx Bcast 192.168.x.xx Mask:255.255.255.0
[17:40] <duncan-nz> and the first one is the one i wanted.
[17:41] <ikonia> duncan-nz: yes, that's your ipv4 address
[17:41] <duncan-nz> Usually it's called ipv4, but now it isn't any more I guess with the latest ifconfig...
[17:41] <ikonia> duncan-nz: it's never called ipv4
[17:42] <duncan-nz> oh, sorry, that's ipconfig on windows.
[17:43] <jack34> ikonia: I followed that tutorial exactly...and my IP address was working after I tested nginx..
[17:43] <jack34> ikonia: I got the nginx page and everything
[17:43] <ikonia> jack34: if you followed that tutorial exactly why are you pointing your web browser at port 3030 ?
[17:43] <ikonia> when the example points it at 80
[17:44] <duncan-nz> ikonia: tnx
[17:45] <jack34> ikonia: Where does the example point to 80...I searched the whole tutorial t for the keyword '80' and nothing shows up
[17:45] <ikonia> jack34: you're too lazy
[17:45] <ikonia> jack34: it shows it in the screen shot
[17:47] <jack34> ikonia: Are you talking about 96.126.100.112?
[17:47] <jack34> ikonia: Isn't that his unique IP address though?
[17:48] <jack34> ikonia: You're talking about this tutorial right: http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/
[17:49] <ikonia> jack34: you said you knew how web applications work
[17:49] <ikonia> jack34: he's typing 96.126.100.112 in his example
[17:49] <ikonia> jack34: what port is 96.126.100.112 connecting to ?
[17:50] <jack34> ikonia: port 80?
[17:50] <ikonia> think about it
[17:50] <ikonia> jack34: come on....yes
[17:50] <jack34> ikonia: Ok, so how can I make my IP address do that?
[17:50] <ikonia> jack34: I'm sorry, you really have no idea what you are doing or how web applications work
[17:51] <ikonia> jack34: you need to conact the person who wrote that document and ask them to walk you through it
[17:51] <jack34> ikonia: I'm dumb I know, but I'm not going to give up
[17:51] <ikonia> I didn't say you where dumb, and I didn't say you sould give up
[17:51] <ikonia> I asked you if you knew how web applications work....you clearly don't, so it would require me going through that doucment, then going through it with you step by step
[17:51] <jack34> this VPS stuff is new to me, I come from a git push heroku background
[17:52] <ikonia> jack34: this is nothing to do with vps
[17:52] <ikonia> jack34: I suggest contacting the people who wrote that document, and explaining you'd like to go through it with them when they have some time free
[17:52] <jack34> ikonia: I'll just google it then
[17:53] <ikonia> jack34: sure, if you feel that will get the job done
[17:53] <jack34> ikonia: I'm sorry I upset you
[17:53] <ikonia> as I've said 3 times now
[17:53] <ikonia> you've not upset me
[17:53] <ikonia> perhaps listening will get you further
[17:55] <jack34> ikonia: I will listen, try to reflect, analyze and be open to your criticism
[17:56] <ikonia> why don't you just contact the author and ask him to talk you through it
[17:56] <ikonia> then you can ask questions as you go along with anything you are not %100 clear on
[17:58] <jack34> ikonia: The author doesn't care about folks like me, he's busy working for ThoughtWorks
[17:58] <ikonia> jack34: have you asked ?
[17:58] <jack34> ikonia: I'm just a vps noob, trying to migrate his rails app from heroku to digitalocean
[17:59] <ikonia> jack34: remember when you said "you'd listen" ?
[17:59] <jack34> I'm listening
[17:59] <RoyK> jack34: what are you trying to do_
[17:59] <RoyK> ?
[17:59] <ikonia> jack34: how many times hav eI said to you "it's nothing to do with a vps"
[18:00] <ikonia> RoyK: http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/
[18:00] <ikonia> RoyK: he's followed it exactly....but not at all
[18:01] <jack34> ikonia: thanks
[18:02] <jack34> RoyK: I'm trying to get my IP address in the browser to work after I deployed, but I get a "page not found"
[18:02] <jack34> RoyK: Everything seemed to deploy perfect though
[18:02] <cloakable> I am seeing some truly weird behaviour in my /dev/disk/by-path in ubuntu server 12.10; both sda and sdb seem to be conflicting
[18:03] <ikonia> jack34: with respect, based on the fact tha tyou where trying to connect to 3030 rather than 80 - your assesment of "everything deployed fine" isn't really valid
[18:03] <RoyK> cloakable: pastebin `find /dev/disk-by*`
[18:03] <cloakable> RoyK: sure
[18:04] <jack34> ikonia: But that's what the author put in their deploy.rb file: set :port, "3030"
[18:04] <cloakable> RoyK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672595/
[18:06] <jack34> RoyK: Any ideas?
[18:06] <RoyK> sorry, I don't see the conflict
[18:07] <RoyK> jack34: well, basic ubuntu server setup docs are good
[18:07] <RoyK> !guide | jack34
[18:07] <jack34> RoyK: The page isn't loading in my browser, even though everything seems to deploy fine.
[18:07] <cloakable> RoyK: how about here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672608/
[18:07] <cloakable> How's that for a conflict? :)
[18:08] <RoyK> ouch
[18:08] <RoyK> dunno
[18:09] <cloakable> I have in my system: sda sda1 sda2 sda5 sdb and sdb1
[18:10] <RoyK> does it work if you use UUIDs?
[18:10] <RoyK> no need to use /dev/whatnot if you have UUIDs
[18:11] <cloakable> I was planning on setting a POLICY line in mdadm.conf, but that assumes a reliable /dev/disk/by-path
[18:11] <cloakable> And uh... it's not reliable, obviously :P
[18:14] <cloakable> Ah well, maybe it's a chipset issue. NM10/ICH7 SATA controller?
[18:14] <RoyK> what's the policy thing in mdadm?
[18:14] <cloakable> It allows you to set a policy on what do do with hotplugged disks
[18:15] <ikonia> jack34: READ what he's saying
[18:15] <ikonia> jack34: DEPLOY to 3030 - that doesn't mean point your web server at 3030
[18:15] <ikonia> jack34: ssh is running on 3030 that's how the application is deployed, so just common sense says "pointing a web browser at an ssh server....won't do anything"
[18:15] <cloakable> So you can basically tell it to take control of disks plugged into a defined range of ports, and do stuff with them
[18:17] <cloakable> Like automatically replace a failed disk :)
[18:17] <jack34> ikonia: Ah, so I have to change all my 3030 ports to 80 on the remote server right?
[18:21] <ikonia> jack34: no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
[18:22] <ikonia> jack34: how many times did I saw "no changes needed"
[18:22] <ikonia> jack34: this is why I've stopped trying to help you as you don't listen
[18:22] <RoyK> cloakable: ok
[18:22] <RoyK> cloakable: I thought that was in by default
[18:23] <cloakable> RoyK: nope, needs to be configured
[18:23] <cloakable> the mdadm writers decided it wasn't a good idea for it to just grab disk without being configured :)
[18:23] <RoyK> why do I like zfs? ...
[18:24] <cloakable> So it'll assemble an array without configuration, but won't include fresh disk without being either configured to, or told to.
[18:24] <jack34> ikonia: Okay so no changes needed, let me get that straight
[18:27] <binarydog> does ubuntu-server have a different hardware detection than ubuntu? or does it only detect ethernet cards and no wireless cards?
[18:28] <cloakable> I believe they use the same kernel and therefore same drivers
[18:29] <RoyK> binarydog: the difference is minimal or non-existant
[18:29] <cloakable> It looks like both the server and desktop use the same (generic) kernel now
[18:29] <cloakable> So non-existent
[18:30] <cloakable> linux-server depends on linux-generic, and linux-generic depends on the latest linux kernel
[18:31] <binarydog> hm, because the server version does not find my wlan card (macbook air) but desktop does
[18:31] <ogra_> you dont see it in ifconfig ?
[18:32] <ogra_> or in "cat /proc/net/dev"
[18:33] <RoyK> binarydog: what does iwconfig have to say?
[18:33] <binarydog> i'm still at the 'detect network hardware' installation step. i'm going to try brcmsmac. that seems to be the right version
[18:33] <ogra_> oh broadcome evilness
[18:34] <binarydog> haha yeah, that's the one thing I still remember from my last try
[20:06] <sliddjur> hello, i created gpg keys with sudo. now keys where created in private home folder. then i moved them to roots home folder. but gpg --list-keys doesnt show any keys
[20:08] <escott> sliddjur, if you did sudo gpg --blah blah it was probably acting on /root/.gpg
[20:08] <sliddjur> escott: i did sudo -s and then gpg keygen
[20:08] <escott> sliddjur, so that should be messing with /root/.gpg
[20:09] <sliddjur> escott: sudo -s all commands after that is run as my user?
[20:10] <Masshuu> anyone here know how to work cset?
[20:10] <escott> sliddjur, well sudo -s is probably wrong. sudo -i is what you wanted. but in a root terminal those commands run as root
[20:53] <sliddjur> escott: sudo -i stays logged in aswell?
[20:54] <escott> sliddjur, it starts an interactive terminal
[20:55] <sliddjur> im not sure i understand what that means
[20:57] <escott> sliddjur, usually sudo command just runs a command which is "non-interactive"
[20:57] <escott> sliddjur, sudo -i starts an interactive terminal session with root privs
[21:01] <duncan-nz> why is there an entry in .ssh/authorized_keys before I put one there?
[21:02] <TheLordOfTime> duncan-nz, host-generated?
[21:02] <TheLordOfTime> duncan-nz, is the server an Amazon EC2 instance, or a VPS somewhere?
[21:02] <TheLordOfTime> or something else?
[21:02] <duncan-nz> It's my own server just recently installed
[21:02] <TheLordOfTime> huh, dunno then, but you can remove it normally without incident
[21:03] <duncan-nz> okay, that's the important thing. I'll backup the file of course just in case.
[21:10] <duncan-nz> now putty is not asking me if I recognize the fingerprint when i connect. Where is putty storing info about the keys i recognize?'
[21:34] <zastern> Every time I try to change network settings by editing /etc/network/interfaces and then restarting networking i get - Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces - What is the proper way to reload network settings then?
[21:34] <zastern> services networking restart gives a similar message
[23:56] <lvmer> I'm having trouble with the error: No css library available.    But I have both libdvdcss2 & libdvdread4