| Kilos | morning all | 06:16 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:27 |
| * superfly gets ready for kirk | 06:27 | |
| Kilos | say a prayer for me too please superfly | 06:28 |
| superfly | will do | 06:29 |
| Kilos | ty | 06:29 |
| Kilos | eeeek timkeller that bouncer of yours is sick | 09:51 |
| Kilos | maybe tonight ask one of the guys to help you fix it | 09:52 |
| Vince-0 | Telkom: not winning with DSL faults in 10 areas | 10:14 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 10:20 |
| Vince-0 | Never seen this - line syncs but no ppoe and I've tried two ISPs | 10:23 |
| Kilos | thats not good | 10:42 |
| Symmetria | sounds your the metro-e to your exchange is down Vince | 10:50 |
| Symmetria | the DSLAM will then sync but if here is no connectivity back outta the exchange you aint gonna get pppoe | 10:50 |
| Vince-0 | Yes indeed. Hopefully they fix it fast cos there's a high concentration of users and businesses here | 11:05 |
| Vince-0 | And I can play games, most importantly | 11:37 |
| smile4ever | There is hope for south africa :D | 11:43 |
| smile4ever | www.uitsaaines.co.za says ;) | 11:44 |
| smile4ever | :P | 11:44 |
| Squirm | lo | 11:44 |
| smile4ever | hi :) | 11:45 |
| smile4ever | ^^ | 11:45 |
| smile4ever | are you using unity, Squirm? | 11:45 |
| charl_ | good afternoon | 11:52 |
| charl_ | Maaz_: coffee on | 11:52 |
| * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee | 11:52 | |
| Squirm | smile4ever: nope | 11:54 |
| Squirm | don't like it | 11:55 |
| smile4ever | you are a kde man? :p | 11:55 |
| Squirm | nope | 11:55 |
| Squirm | more of a Gnome 2 man | 11:55 |
| charl_ | hi Squirm, smile4ever | 11:55 |
| Squirm | I'm running Mint MATE | 11:55 |
| Squirm | hey charl_ | 11:55 |
| smile4ever | Squirm: cool :) | 11:55 |
| smile4ever | hi charl_ :) | 11:56 |
| smile4ever | I found a fix for wine apps under Unity | 11:56 |
| smile4ever | ^^ | 11:56 |
| Squirm | yeah, I like Mint. | 11:56 |
| Maaz_ | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 11:56 |
| smile4ever | Squirm: me too :) | 11:56 |
| Squirm | I'm going to go play squash now and I can still feel the coffee I had at lunch :/ | 11:57 |
| Squirm | bad combination | 11:57 |
| charl_ | Maaz_: thanks | 11:59 |
| Maaz_ | charl_: Sure | 11:59 |
| Squirm | bbl | 12:00 |
| smile4ever | http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation-certificaat <- cool, isn't it? :D | 12:01 |
| smile4ever | ^^ | 12:01 |
| zeref | o0o0o0 | 12:39 |
| zeref | gnome-shell in debian testing looks sexy :P | 12:39 |
| charl_ | zeref: screenshot? :) | 13:26 |
| charl_ | smile4ever: yeah that is quite important these days where ssl certificates are almost bought "off the shelf" | 13:28 |
| smile4ever | charl_: :D | 13:36 |
| smile4ever | it was missing on Wikipedia NL, so why not write it :) | 13:36 |
| charl_ | smile4ever: oh nice, you wrote that? | 13:54 |
| smile4ever | charl_: who else? :D | 13:54 |
| charl_ | very good! | 13:54 |
| smile4ever | charl_: thanks :) | 13:59 |
| smile4ever | :D :D | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | Recent heeft u een melding gedaan van een (of meer) website die nog niet | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | door CookiesOK ondersteund werd. | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | Ik stuur u dit bericht om u te informeren dat ik uw melding afgehandeld | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | heb en de website aan de plugin word toegevoegd vanaf de volgende update | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | (morgen ochtend). | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | (tweakers.net) | 14:28 |
| smile4ever | :) | 14:28 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 15:40 |
| Vince-0 | Maaz: hmm... | 15:41 |
| Maaz_ | hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking | 15:41 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:41 |
| Kilos | tim needs help with his bouncer | 15:41 |
| Kilos | maybe he needs to get quassel- core and use it that way | 15:42 |
| Vince-0 | androirc has a timout limit config | 15:42 |
| Kilos | sup Vince-0 | 15:42 |
| Vince-0 | is he on mobile that its so bad>? | 15:42 |
| Vince-0 | Hi | 15:42 |
| Kilos | i dont know but its very bad | 15:42 |
| Kilos | timkeller: ping | 15:43 |
| Vince-0 | timkeller ping | 15:43 |
| Vince-0 | timkeller: ping | 15:44 |
| Vince-0 | ow I thought it could be a bot command to show latency | 15:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:45 |
| Kilos | no we pinging him for a reaction | 15:45 |
| Kilos | the ctcp ping gives latency times | 15:45 |
| Kilos | dont see the optiojn here on quassel | 15:46 |
| Kilos | option as well | 15:46 |
| Vince-0 | do you see that whois that whos idle time or is it just me cos I clicked on it | 15:48 |
| Kilos | in quassel Vince-0? | 15:53 |
| Vince-0 | Xchat | 15:53 |
| Kilos | never thought i would miss unity but because of xchat i do | 15:53 |
| Vince-0 | Gnome3 | 15:53 |
| Kilos | xchat dont give alert sounds in kubuntu | 15:54 |
| Vince-0 | or shell or whatever - I need to do some customization testing on other environments | 15:54 |
| Kilos | xchat has lotsa stuff you can setup | 15:54 |
| Kilos | also shows hosts etc | 15:55 |
| Vince-0 | what's your opinion on desktop window manager customizations? I think gnome2 is still the easiest to lock-down | 15:55 |
| Kilos | lemme start it here | 15:55 |
| Kilos | yeah gnome 2 still is the easiest | 15:56 |
| Kilos | mate was close | 15:56 |
| Kilos | have you tried mate? | 15:56 |
| Vince-0 | tried it on the new LinuxMint in the call center and its not nice to customize easily. | 15:57 |
| Kilos | works on unity and like Squirm with mint | 15:57 |
| Vince-0 | I did have some luch with Gnome Shell but it isn't exactly light-weight on weak machines | 15:57 |
| Kilos | in unity its close to gnome2 as in maverick | 15:57 |
| Kilos | i dont know mint | 15:57 |
| Vince-0 | Is OK | 15:57 |
| Kilos | i used mate on unity and it was much faster | 15:58 |
| Kilos | like turbo charging an old jalopy | 15:58 |
| Vince-0 | I like the minimal ones like xfce, lxde and enlightenment even though they're out dated | 15:59 |
| Vince-0 | I think it comes down to the desktop environment and customizations for end users - not the underlying distribution. | 15:59 |
| Vince-0 | packages must just work | 15:59 |
| Kilos | yeah unity worked well here even though slowish, but everything except 3g worked | 16:01 |
| Kilos | now drive crashed and refuses to take unity again | 16:01 |
| Kilos | grrr | 16:01 |
| * Squirm dies | 16:01 | |
| Vince-0 | network manager? I have a SIM slot on the work Dell laptop but havn't tried it. Biggest problem is Nvidia Optimus and TV out | 16:02 |
| Kilos | watch out the day you really do Squirm\ | 16:02 |
| smile4ever | bye :) | 16:02 |
| Kilos | toods smile4ever | 16:02 |
| Kilos | be good | 16:02 |
| smile4ever | thanks | 16:02 |
| smile4ever | :) | 16:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:03 |
| Vince-0_DBNLUG | its mee | 16:17 |
| Kilos | what youuuu | 16:17 |
| Kilos | whats too | 16:18 |
| Vince-0 | freenode client on the lug site I'm working on | 16:18 |
| Kilos | ah you causing all the probs | 16:18 |
| Kilos | naughty | 16:18 |
| Vince-0 | problems? mee? | 16:19 |
| Kilos | haha | 16:19 |
| Vince-0 | what do you know that I don' | 16:19 |
| Vince-0 | t | 16:19 |
| Kilos | i can overhaul an automatic gearbox and diesel engine | 16:20 |
| Vince-0 | ouch | 16:20 |
| Kilos | hehe dirty work | 16:20 |
| Vince-0 | I'm an office rat - keyboard hands | 16:21 |
| Kilos | shame | 16:21 |
| Kilos | can you surf? | 16:21 |
| Vince-0 | hell yar | 16:22 |
| Kilos | yay then you not too bad | 16:22 |
| Vince-0 | thanks | 16:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:23 |
| Kilos | can you fix winsucks pcs? | 16:23 |
| Vince-0 | yes unfortunately | 16:23 |
| Vince-0 | local helpdesk, but not at work thank crabs | 16:23 |
| Kilos | then lurk on my channel for if someone needs help | 16:24 |
| Kilos | ##kilos | 16:24 |
| Vince-0 | gotcha, I guess those newbs need help too | 16:24 |
| Kilos | cute ibid i got hey | 16:24 |
| Vince-0 | is that a bot"? | 16:25 |
| Kilos | y7ip latest ibid | 16:25 |
| Kilos | yip too | 16:25 |
| Kilos | its maaz's little sister | 16:26 |
| Vince-0 | k, I like the QA type bots makes things more structured | 16:26 |
| Vince-0 | see the one in #freeswitch | 16:26 |
| Vince-0 | although those sorts of things also need some type of time-shift or zone descriptions | 16:26 |
| Kilos | eeek lotsa peeps there | 16:27 |
| Kilos | id get lost | 16:27 |
| Vince-0 | If you need assistance please type ~take-a-number [insert your question here] or read http://wiki.freeswitch.org | 16:27 |
| Vince-0 | great project that - that wiki is nice and they do weekly conference calls | 16:28 |
| Kilos | im scared of wiki sites now | 16:28 |
| Vince-0 | they're the bomb | 16:28 |
| Vince-0 | although its a bit of work for admins | 16:29 |
| Kilos | i tried to get to 2 the smile gave coupla night ago and that crashed my unity | 16:29 |
| Kilos | what do they do at #freeswitch? | 16:29 |
| Vince-0 | voip/softswitch | 16:30 |
| Vince-0 | like Asterisk but on steroids | 16:30 |
| Kilos | oh i dont have data to play like that | 16:30 |
| Vince-0 | you talkin about cap? | 16:31 |
| Kilos | ya i use 8ta | 16:31 |
| Vince-0 | FS can be big with all the sound files | 16:31 |
| Kilos | make 2+1 last 2 months | 16:31 |
| Vince-0 | but I'v heard of guys building it on embedded devices | 16:32 |
| Kilos | sound and video is bad news for 3g peeps | 16:33 |
| Vince-0 | oh ya to get it over 3g but depending how you do it it could just be for internal use or on a telkom analogue line | 16:33 |
| Vince-0 | the protocol options are flexible so you can do like speex codec at 5Kbps voice call | 16:34 |
| Kilos | hehe all lines got stolen here so often they refused to replace them | 16:34 |
| Kilos | new lines werent up a week then gone again | 16:35 |
| Vince-0 | in fact, there's probably a module to get it to work with a SIM device | 16:35 |
| Kilos | even power lines | 16:35 |
| Vince-0 | ya sounds like the Durban south coast and in-land | 16:35 |
| Kilos | copper has become like gold | 16:35 |
| Kilos | kubuntu installs packages muct faster than unity | 17:07 |
| Vince-0 | same packages? | 17:12 |
| Kilos | yeah the normal 12.04 packages one manually installs from archives or a rsynced copy of them | 17:30 |
| Kilos | the package manager is much faster than gdebi or sotware centre | 17:31 |
| Kilos | and just one click on the package and it opens the pm | 17:31 |
| Kilos | i dont remember if one should install compiz. superfly? | 17:34 |
| Kilos | or inetpro | 17:34 |
| Kilos | they the kde guys | 17:34 |
| inetpro | timkeller spamming us? | 17:55 |
| inetpro | good morning Kilos | 17:55 |
| Kilos | good morning inetpro | 17:56 |
| Kilos | yeah we gotta help him sort his bouncer thingie | 17:56 |
| Kilos | so must i install compiz boetie | 17:57 |
| inetpro | no man, at this rate he must just disconnect and connect when he wants to talk to us | 17:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: on kubuntu there's no need to install compiz | 17:57 |
| Kilos | ok but would be nice to find what the prob is | 17:58 |
| Kilos | others dont do it | 17:58 |
| Kilos | maybe he needs kde stuff | 17:58 |
| inetpro | if you use a bouncer you need a stable connection | 17:58 |
| inetpro | kde won't make a diff | 17:59 |
| Kilos | he can disconnect after the meeting other wise he will forget | 17:59 |
| Kilos | you got no excuses to miss it either | 17:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ai! | 17:59 |
| Kilos | lmga | 17:59 |
| Kilos | looks like the mail peeps gave up the idea of activism against ms preinstalled pcs | 18:00 |
| Squirm | in theory, if you say no to MS's Terms, you should be able to claim the money back | 18:01 |
| Kilos | hey inetpro must i install compiz? | 18:01 |
| Kilos | ya Squirm some have done it but with lotsa rigmarole | 18:02 |
| inetpro | 17/02 19:57:56 <inetpro> Kilos: on kubuntu there's no need to install compiz | 18:02 |
| Kilos | i think its just pc suppliers that should give a choice not enforce the ms thing | 18:02 |
| inetpro | Kubuntu comes with built-in desktop effects | 18:03 |
| Kilos | oh sorry ballie. didnt see that | 18:03 |
| Squirm | pc without OS + optional, discounted OS | 18:03 |
| Squirm | agreed | 18:03 |
| Kilos | i killed them effects | 18:03 |
| Kilos | ya Squirmlike that | 18:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: if you disabled desktop effects why do you still want compiz? | 18:04 |
| Kilos | well duh why you think im asking | 18:04 |
| inetpro | I don't know | 18:04 |
| Kilos | same as why you asked how to get rid of dubbletjies | 18:05 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: if you don't use it don't install it | 18:05 |
| Kilos | i dunno what its supposed to do. so i asked. had to get it in unity for some reason | 18:06 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 18:06 |
| Kilos | something killed 3g had to put modem in another port | 19:09 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:09 |
| Kilos | lo Banlam bakuman | 19:10 |
| Kilos | shame poor old langjan sukkels with 12.10 unity and his wife is happy with 12.04 kubuntu | 19:11 |
| Kilos | surely theres a message there | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | bye :) | 19:33 |
| Kilos | toods smile4ever sleep tight | 19:33 |
| smile4ever | thanks Kilos good night | 19:34 |
| smile4ever | :) | 19:34 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight. | 19:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz_, announce Meeting tomorrow night at 19.30 guys | 19:39 |
| Maaz_ | Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting tomorrow night at 19.30 guys | 19:39 |
| Vince-0 | peace out! | 20:06 |
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