[06:16] morning all [06:27] morning Kilos [06:27] * superfly gets ready for kirk [06:28] say a prayer for me too please superfly [06:29] will do [06:29] ty [09:51] eeeek timkeller that bouncer of yours is sick [09:52] maybe tonight ask one of the guys to help you fix it [10:14] Telkom: not winning with DSL faults in 10 areas [10:20] hmm... [10:23] Never seen this - line syncs but no ppoe and I've tried two ISPs [10:42] thats not good [10:50] sounds your the metro-e to your exchange is down Vince [10:50] the DSLAM will then sync but if here is no connectivity back outta the exchange you aint gonna get pppoe [11:05] Yes indeed. Hopefully they fix it fast cos there's a high concentration of users and businesses here [11:37] And I can play games, most importantly [11:43] There is hope for south africa :D [11:44] www.uitsaaines.co.za says ;) [11:44] :P [11:44] lo [11:45] hi :) [11:45] ^^ [11:45] are you using unity, Squirm? [11:52] good afternoon [11:52] Maaz_: coffee on [11:52] * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee [11:54] smile4ever: nope [11:55] don't like it [11:55] you are a kde man? :p [11:55] nope [11:55] more of a Gnome 2 man [11:55] hi Squirm, smile4ever [11:55] I'm running Mint MATE [11:55] hey charl_ [11:55] Squirm: cool :) [11:56] hi charl_ :) [11:56] I found a fix for wine apps under Unity [11:56] ^^ [11:56] yeah, I like Mint. [11:56] Coffee's ready for charl_! [11:56] Squirm: me too :) [11:57] I'm going to go play squash now and I can still feel the coffee I had at lunch :/ [11:57] bad combination [11:59] Maaz_: thanks [11:59] charl_: Sure [12:00] bbl [12:01] http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation-certificaat <- cool, isn't it? :D [12:01] ^^ [12:39] o0o0o0 [12:39] gnome-shell in debian testing looks sexy :P [13:26] zeref: screenshot? :) [13:28] smile4ever: yeah that is quite important these days where ssl certificates are almost bought "off the shelf" [13:36] charl_: :D [13:36] it was missing on Wikipedia NL, so why not write it :) [13:54] smile4ever: oh nice, you wrote that? [13:54] charl_: who else? :D [13:54] very good! [13:59] charl_: thanks :) [14:28] :D :D [14:28] Recent heeft u een melding gedaan van een (of meer) website die nog niet [14:28] door CookiesOK ondersteund werd. [14:28] Ik stuur u dit bericht om u te informeren dat ik uw melding afgehandeld [14:28] heb en de website aan de plugin word toegevoegd vanaf de volgende update [14:28] (morgen ochtend). [14:28] (tweakers.net) [14:28] :) [15:40] hmm... [15:41] Maaz: hmm... [15:41] hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking [15:41] haha [15:41] tim needs help with his bouncer [15:42] maybe he needs to get quassel- core and use it that way [15:42] androirc has a timout limit config [15:42] sup Vince-0 [15:42] is he on mobile that its so bad>? [15:42] Hi [15:42] i dont know but its very bad [15:43] timkeller: ping [15:43] timkeller ping [15:44] timkeller: ping [15:44] ow I thought it could be a bot command to show latency [15:45] lol [15:45] no we pinging him for a reaction [15:45] the ctcp ping gives latency times [15:46] dont see the optiojn here on quassel [15:46] option as well [15:48] do you see that whois that whos idle time or is it just me cos I clicked on it [15:53] in quassel Vince-0? [15:53] Xchat [15:53] never thought i would miss unity but because of xchat i do [15:53] Gnome3 [15:54] xchat dont give alert sounds in kubuntu [15:54] or shell or whatever - I need to do some customization testing on other environments [15:54] xchat has lotsa stuff you can setup [15:55] also shows hosts etc [15:55] what's your opinion on desktop window manager customizations? I think gnome2 is still the easiest to lock-down [15:55] lemme start it here [15:56] yeah gnome 2 still is the easiest [15:56] mate was close [15:56] have you tried mate? [15:57] tried it on the new LinuxMint in the call center and its not nice to customize easily. [15:57] works on unity and like Squirm with mint [15:57] I did have some luch with Gnome Shell but it isn't exactly light-weight on weak machines [15:57] in unity its close to gnome2 as in maverick [15:57] i dont know mint [15:57] Is OK [15:58] i used mate on unity and it was much faster [15:58] like turbo charging an old jalopy [15:59] I like the minimal ones like xfce, lxde and enlightenment even though they're out dated [15:59] I think it comes down to the desktop environment and customizations for end users - not the underlying distribution. [15:59] packages must just work [16:01] yeah unity worked well here even though slowish, but everything except 3g worked [16:01] now drive crashed and refuses to take unity again [16:01] grrr [16:01] * Squirm dies [16:02] network manager? I have a SIM slot on the work Dell laptop but havn't tried it. Biggest problem is Nvidia Optimus and TV out [16:02] watch out the day you really do Squirm\ [16:02] bye :) [16:02] toods smile4ever [16:02] be good [16:02] thanks [16:02] :) [16:03] hehe [16:17] its mee [16:17] what youuuu [16:18] whats too [16:18] freenode client on the lug site I'm working on [16:18] ah you causing all the probs [16:18] naughty [16:19] problems? mee? [16:19] haha [16:19] what do you know that I don' [16:19] t [16:20] i can overhaul an automatic gearbox and diesel engine [16:20] ouch [16:20] hehe dirty work [16:21] I'm an office rat - keyboard hands [16:21] shame [16:21] can you surf? [16:22] hell yar [16:22] yay then you not too bad [16:22] thanks [16:23] hehe [16:23] can you fix winsucks pcs? [16:23] yes unfortunately [16:23] local helpdesk, but not at work thank crabs [16:24] then lurk on my channel for if someone needs help [16:24] ##kilos [16:24] gotcha, I guess those newbs need help too [16:24] cute ibid i got hey [16:25] is that a bot"? [16:25] y7ip latest ibid [16:25] yip too [16:26] its maaz's little sister [16:26] k, I like the QA type bots makes things more structured [16:26] see the one in #freeswitch [16:26] although those sorts of things also need some type of time-shift or zone descriptions [16:27] eeek lotsa peeps there [16:27] id get lost [16:27] If you need assistance please type ~take-a-number [insert your question here] or read http://wiki.freeswitch.org [16:28] great project that - that wiki is nice and they do weekly conference calls [16:28] im scared of wiki sites now [16:28] they're the bomb [16:29] although its a bit of work for admins [16:29] i tried to get to 2 the smile gave coupla night ago and that crashed my unity [16:29] what do they do at #freeswitch? [16:30] voip/softswitch [16:30] like Asterisk but on steroids [16:30] oh i dont have data to play like that [16:31] you talkin about cap? [16:31] ya i use 8ta [16:31] FS can be big with all the sound files [16:31] make 2+1 last 2 months [16:32] but I'v heard of guys building it on embedded devices [16:33] sound and video is bad news for 3g peeps [16:33] oh ya to get it over 3g but depending how you do it it could just be for internal use or on a telkom analogue line [16:34] the protocol options are flexible so you can do like speex codec at 5Kbps voice call [16:34] hehe all lines got stolen here so often they refused to replace them [16:35] new lines werent up a week then gone again [16:35] in fact, there's probably a module to get it to work with a SIM device [16:35] even power lines [16:35] ya sounds like the Durban south coast and in-land [16:35] copper has become like gold [17:07] kubuntu installs packages muct faster than unity [17:12] same packages? [17:30] yeah the normal 12.04 packages one manually installs from archives or a rsynced copy of them [17:31] the package manager is much faster than gdebi or sotware centre [17:31] and just one click on the package and it opens the pm [17:34] i dont remember if one should install compiz. superfly? [17:34] or inetpro [17:34] they the kde guys [17:55] timkeller spamming us? [17:55] good morning Kilos [17:56] good morning inetpro [17:56] yeah we gotta help him sort his bouncer thingie [17:57] so must i install compiz boetie [17:57] no man, at this rate he must just disconnect and connect when he wants to talk to us [17:57] Kilos: on kubuntu there's no need to install compiz [17:58] ok but would be nice to find what the prob is [17:58] others dont do it [17:58] maybe he needs kde stuff [17:58] if you use a bouncer you need a stable connection [17:59] kde won't make a diff [17:59] he can disconnect after the meeting other wise he will forget [17:59] you got no excuses to miss it either [17:59] Kilos: ai! [17:59] lmga [18:00] looks like the mail peeps gave up the idea of activism against ms preinstalled pcs [18:01] in theory, if you say no to MS's Terms, you should be able to claim the money back [18:01] hey inetpro must i install compiz? [18:02] ya Squirm some have done it but with lotsa rigmarole [18:02] 17/02 19:57:56 Kilos: on kubuntu there's no need to install compiz [18:02] i think its just pc suppliers that should give a choice not enforce the ms thing [18:03] Kubuntu comes with built-in desktop effects [18:03] oh sorry ballie. didnt see that [18:03] pc without OS + optional, discounted OS [18:03] agreed [18:03] i killed them effects [18:03] ya Squirmlike that [18:04] Kilos: if you disabled desktop effects why do you still want compiz? [18:04] well duh why you think im asking [18:04] I don't know [18:05] same as why you asked how to get rid of dubbletjies [18:05] ai! [18:05] hehe [18:05] Kilos: if you don't use it don't install it [18:06] i dunno what its supposed to do. so i asked. had to get it in unity for some reason [18:06] ty inetpro [19:09] something killed 3g had to put modem in another port [19:09] ai! [19:10] lo Banlam bakuman [19:11] shame poor old langjan sukkels with 12.10 unity and his wife is happy with 12.04 kubuntu [19:11] surely theres a message there [19:33] bye :) [19:33] toods smile4ever sleep tight [19:34] thanks Kilos good night [19:34] :) [19:38] night all sleep tight. [19:39] Maaz_, announce Meeting tomorrow night at 19.30 guys [19:39] Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting tomorrow night at 19.30 guys [20:06] peace out!