[00:00] <demonio> how works iwconfig command?
[00:00] <ironbutt_> k1l, probably not
[00:00] <Ice_Strike> roothorick Ah good idea
[00:00] <alexi_> roothorick: yep. I'll need to reinstall fglrx and reboot in order to fetch the log. It will be a moment.
[00:00] <k1l> ironbutt_: see in /var/log and then the apt log
[00:00] <Styler2go> is there any char in ubuntu which aborts any "command" in the "" ?  in c# it would an @ before the string :D
[00:00] <labcoattech> what's the best way to install radeon drivers in Ubuntu 12.10 x64
[00:01] <roothorick> ironbutt_: so there's no "kernel driver in use" under "VGA compatible controller"?
[00:01] <ironbutt_> and my interface has gone supr laggy
[00:01] <Ice_Strike> Which do you recommend on Netbook -  Ubuntu 12.10 or  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:01] <ironbutt_> but no, it was there before... it said Kernel Driver Modules: radeon
[00:01] <ironbutt_> now it's just... not there at all
[00:01] <ironbutt_> nothing
[00:01] <ironbutt_> skips to kernel modules
[00:02] <roothorick> ironbutt_: what does "sudo modprobe fglrx" say?
[00:02] <ironbutt_> I meant i tused to say kernle driver in use, now it skips and only shows kernel modules
[00:02] <larst> should i remove Unity if i use gnome shell?
[00:02] <ironbutt_> my interface is super laggy now, so you'll have to bear with me
[00:02] <k1l> larst: no need for that
[00:02] <ironbutt_> I'm getting 30 second delays
[00:02] <larst> k1l, ok
[00:02] <roothorick> ironbutt_: Ctrl+Alt+F1 and do your work there
[00:02] <ironbutt_> yeah, I'll do that
[00:03] <larst> Ice_Strike, use 12.10
[00:03] <Styler2go> noone any further idea?
[00:03] <ironbutt_> FATAL: Module fglrx not found
[00:03] <ironbutt_> but I'm in a command shell
[00:03] <roothorick> ironbutt_: that... is your problem. The module didn't get built for some reason
[00:03] <k1l> ironbutt_: we need that log from the install attempt
[00:03] <k1l> everything else is just guessing
[00:03] <ironbutt_> alright, where is that... again
[00:03] <roothorick> ironbutt_: work with k1l, he says there's a known issue they're troubleshooting
[00:04] <ironbutt_> how do i open the apt log
[00:04] <roothorick> ironbutt_: basically sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx, then
[00:05] <k1l> "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log"
[00:05] <ironbutt_> by the way k1l, I don't know if this is relevent
[00:05] <roothorick> k1l: actually that's even beter
[00:05] <ironbutt_> this particular time, I installed the 13.2 beta drivers by creating deb packages from the .run file
[00:05] <ironbutt_> then installing those .deb packages
[00:05] <ironbutt_> I have used apt-get install fglrx yesterday
[00:06] <Styler2go> should u ask on superuser maybe?
[00:06] <ironbutt_> just thought I'd give you that piece of information in case it was significant
[00:07] <k1l> ironbutt_: yes i would have tried the official ubuntu one. this that is what is supported from ubuntu
[00:07] <ironbutt_> I have tried that, I get the same issue
[00:07] <ironbutt_> be right back
[00:08] <roothorick> I need a 3.7 kernel due to a fix in nouveau, what's the best way to upgrade? (12.10)
[00:11] <ironbutt_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667270/
[00:11] <Elysium> I have no sound on ubuntu, it has worked but now in Sound in System settings there's no devices. Any ideas?
[00:11] <Elysium> 12.10
[00:11] <Elysium> Sound blaster xfi
[00:11] <ironbutt_> TUTUNTUUM
[00:11] <Styler2go> please guys.. it is important for me... is there a way to escape a -  in a command line ? so that its NOT an arg?
[00:12] <countd> Styler2go: prefix - with --
[00:12] <Styler2go> it is not working
[00:12] <countd> Styler2go: example?
[00:13] <qin> Styler2go: #bash channel?
[00:13] <Styler2go> ffmpeg -i '-PBWkNz-W6Y.mp4' -f mp3 -ab 192000 -vn --'-PBWkNz-W6Y.mp3'
[00:14] <Gnea> !ppa
[00:14] <jftsang> Hi, I'm on 12.04, using Xubuntu. My mouse's left-click doesn't seem to be working at all. I'm using a new mouse as well so it looks like a software problem. The mouse's other functions are working just fine. Anyone know how to fix it?
[00:15] <countd> Styler2go: lose the single quotes, you don't need them and put spaces between -- and - ?
[00:15] <k1l> ironbutt_: purge the fglrx and install the one from the repos. and show the log of that attempt (the lines you see in the terminal) to a pastebinit please
[00:16] <countd> Styler2go: eg: ffmpeg -i -- -PBWkNz-W6Y.mp4 -f mp3 -ab 192000 -vn -- -PBWkNz-W6Y.mp3
[00:16] <Styler2go> without the '?
[00:16] <countd> Styler2go: why do you need them?
[00:16] <Styler2go> i am just askign
[00:17] <Styler2go> ffmpeg -i -- -PBWkNz-W6Y.mp4 -f mp3 -ab 192000 -vn -- -PBWkNz-W6Y.mp3
[00:17] <Styler2go> yes?
[00:17] <countd> Styler2go: give it a try - no promises ;)
[00:17] <Styler2go> it tells me --: no such file or dir
[00:19] <qin> Styler2go: where did you get this ffmpeg command from and what is "--" for?
[00:19] <qin> Styler2go: just suspect you want to strip audio from video, right?
[00:20] <Styler2go> for escaping the - on the beginning of the output file name
[00:20] <elAhmo> Hey guys, I have a short question. Is is possible to revert back a file overwritten by the "make" command?
[00:20] <elAhmo> I made a stupid mistake by not investigating how will it work, and it reverted one of my ini files to default, I had a month of work there and that is now gone :(
[00:20] <elAhmo> There were no writes to the file system after that
[00:21] <Styler2go> ok i got the solution in #basg
[00:21] <Styler2go> #bash
[00:21] <countd> Styler2go: hmm, seems that it's only for bash built-in commands :(
[00:21] <Styler2go> ffmpeg -i -PBWkNz-W6Y.mp4 -f mp3 -ab 192000 -vn -- -PBWkNz-W6Y.mp3
[00:21] <qin> Styler2go: either "\" or literal quote '', but #bash people would set you better and explain "--" use
[00:21] <ironbutt_> k1l line 67 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667270/ shows one of my attempts at installing fglrx
[00:23] <k1l> ironbutt_: yes, that didnt show the info i thought it would show.
[00:24] <ironbutt_> ok, I'll do it again (sigh, I guess I'm doing this to hopefully help others who come in the future).
[00:25] <k1l> i cant hold your hand anymore on this. make sure when you install it (rad the lines that show when you make a sudo apt-get install fglrx) show no errors, like missing headers or smth
[00:25] <ironbutt_> ok fglrx has been uninstalled and purged, rebooting
[00:27] <Deas> how do you print something thu terminal on linux/ubunut?
[00:27] <Bray90820> kinda off topic but i don't know where else to ask
[00:27] <k1l> !ot | Bray90820
[00:28] <Bray90820> i was going to ask what a good place is to ask about general linux distros
[00:28] <ironbutt_> I'm going to install fglrx using this command: sudo apt-get install fglrx (I will not be using updates).
[00:28] <k1l> Bray90820: ##linux
[00:28] <Bray90820> alright
[00:28] <jrib> Deas: you can use lp or lpr
[00:28] <k1l> ironbutt_: yes
[00:28] <k1l> ironbutt_: and which video card do you have?
[00:29] <Bray90820> thank you
[00:29] <ironbutt_> AMD HD 7970
[00:29] <ironbutt_> I think this issue affects ALL 7000 series though
[00:31] <ironbutt_> paste.ubuntu.com/1667444/ that's the results from the install. Do you want me to reboot before pastebinit the apt logfile or pastebinit the log file now?
[00:32] <ironbutt_> that's simply a copy paste from my command prompt
[00:32] <asciiker> hello
[00:32] <asciiker> anyone having opera freezing issues on 12.10 ?
[00:32] <uMinded> My wired networking died. I can get an IP but can not ping ANYTHING. I can use the internet on winxp in virtualbox though in bridge mode so I know its a ubuntu userspace issue
[00:32] <Bray90820> do you know of a different linux channel i can't speak in there for some reason
[00:32] <k1l> ironbutt_: Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[00:32] <k1l> that is what i meant in the first place
[00:33] <ironbutt_> since the what
[00:33] <demonio> hey
[00:33] <ironbutt_> I don't know what that means by the way
[00:33] <demonio> nobody?
[00:33] <k1l> ironbutt_: install the kernel headers
[00:33] <usr13> !register | Bray90820
[00:33] <skyler> Hello! I'm having some problems updating 6.06 to 8.04
[00:33] <ironbutt_> should i uninstall fgrlx first?
[00:34] <usr13> Bray90820: What exactly do you need?
[00:34] <Bray90820> i was wondering if there was a linux distro that was just a cd ri[er
[00:34] <skyler> I can't get the prereqs for some reason? Anyone know what's wrong?
[00:34] <usr13> skyler: From CD?
[00:34] <Bray90820> ripper
[00:34] <skyler> No, update manager
[00:34] <usr13> skyler: 8.04?   Try 12.04.
[00:35] <skyler> I'm not going to install 12.04 on a thinkpad T40 lo
[00:35] <alexi> roothorick: I got logs and logs and logs. xorg.0.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667292 - Xorg.failsafe.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667300 - dmsg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667304 - dpkg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667346 - lspci -k output :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667360 - installation output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667470
[00:35] <Bray90820> like a live distro or something
[00:35] <skyler> Will it run okay? I'd imagine there will be performance issues
[00:35] <k1l> ironbutt_: install "linux-headers-generic"
[00:35] <k1l> alexi: same for you ^
[00:35] <usr13> skyler: 8.04 is long since reaced End Of Life.
[00:36] <ironbutt_> should i uninstall fglrx first?
[00:36] <usr13> skyler: Try lubuntu 12.04
[00:36] <skyler> I know, but I can only update to 8.04 from the update manager
[00:36] <usr13> Bray90820: What channel did you try?
[00:36] <ironbutt_> I guess the safest bet is to do so
[00:36] <Bray90820> i tried #linux but i couldn't talk
[00:36] <k1l> ironbutt_: yep is ok
[00:37] <Gnea> skyler: you could try to at least boot a livecd... maybe lubuntu or xubuntu might be a bit lighter
[00:37] <usr13> Bray90820: Register your Nick
[00:37] <skyler> I don't have any CDs, which is why I am updating through the software update manager
[00:37] <usr13> Bray90820: Or register A nick.
[00:37] <Left_Turn> how can i get my program to open a file i the terminal.. this isnt working.. Program /Home/Documents/Tutorial/file
[00:37] <uMinded> anybody know how to recycle eth0?
[00:37] <k1l> Bray90820: ##linux (with 2 #)
[00:37] <gamatos> kanenas ellinas;
[00:38] <ironbutt_> installing linux-headers-generic
[00:38] <usr13> Left_Turn: You're going to have to describe your situation in more detail.
[00:38] <Gnea> skyler: ah, well just don't let gnome get fully replaced and you should be fine
[00:38] <yourimym1> hello there , is there unofficial room for ubuntu help plz ??
[00:38] <ironbutt_> do you want a pastebin of the command line of that?
[00:38] <alexi> k1l: it is already installed
[00:38] <Bray90820> yea that;s what i dis sorry for teh confusion
[00:38] <Gnea> skyler: unity will eat resources
[00:38] <skyler> Gnea: how do I update though?
[00:38] <TheSwede> okay guys here is my problem. I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 onto a NTFS partition on my hard drive but whenever I boot into the ubuntu CD and try to install it does not recognize my hard drive but in windows it appears fine. Any reccommendation?
[00:38] <skyler> Without a CD that is
[00:38] <Bray90820> i could register my nick but i'm just lazy :P
[00:38] <usr13> Left_Turn: For one, /Home/Documents/ is not a valid path.
[00:38] <Gnea> skyler: just go to 8.10, 9.04, 9.10... until you get to 12.04
[00:38] <k1l> ironbutt_: remove, install headers, install fglrx. then show the output please
[00:39] <k1l> alexi: ok, then i dont know right now
[00:39] <ironbutt_> ok
[00:39] <skyler> But I'm getting an error on installing 8.04 from the update manager, is there any other way to do it?
[00:39] <usr13> Left_Turn: (I think you made a Left Turn when you should have made a Right Turn.
[00:39] <bernardo> Hi everyone! I have laptop with nvidia geforce 650m and, even after installing bumblebee, I still cannot make it work with dual monitor. Any ideas? I've been looking for it on forums for days!
[00:39] <Gnea> skyler: I'm sorry, I didn't catch what the error was
[00:39] <Left_Turn> ok in the home folder i have a program called valgrind... and i need it to open a file in my Tutorial folder... i have tried.. valgrind /Home/Documents/Tutorial/my_file
[00:39] <MK`> TheSwede: you can't install it on an ntfs partition.
[00:39] <Left_Turn> :p
[00:39] <k1l> skyler: which error?
[00:39] <feigningsleep> Hello, all.
[00:39] <skyler> let me do it again to tell you it exactly, but it has something to do with fetching prereqs
[00:39] <Gnea> skyler: okay
[00:40] <k1l> TheSwede: you cant install into ntfs.
[00:40] <Left_Turn> usr whats valid?
[00:40] <Gnea> !twinview | bernardo
[00:40] <usr13> Left_Turn: If that is the exact command you gave, I can only repeat myself, "/Home/Documents/Tutorial/ is not a valid path.
[00:40] <yourimym1>  hello there , is there unofficial room for ubuntu help plz ??
[00:40] <ironbutt_> paste.ubuntu.com/1667528/
[00:40] <Left_Turn> how can i type it out to be valid?
[00:41] <skyler> "Getting upgrade prerequisites failed" "The system was unable to get the prerequisites for th upgrade"
[00:41] <feigningsleep> I'm trying to dual-boot Pangolin on OS X Lion, and when I boot into it from the disk, a command line (presumably autoconfig) comes up and does nothing for at least six hours.
[00:41] <alexi> k1l: the two things I am most concerned by and least able to track down any further is that irq 47 shuts down in dmesg, and the link errors in the installation log. Neither happened until the most recent fglrx update.
[00:41] <usr13> Left_Turn: Now if you can *really* show us the actual command, we might be able to help.
[00:41] <bernardo> ubottu: The thing is that nvidia-settings is not working properlly. Other people seem to be having a lot of problems with this specific video card :/
[00:41] <skyler> wat do
[00:41] <Gnea> yourimym1: well you're in the official help channel (they're not called rooms here), which would be better than unofficial help
[00:41] <Left_Turn> thats my command i dont know any other way:(
[00:41] <ironbutt_> this is a paste from when I first installed fglrx via apt-get install recently (exactly the same as the last pastebin I sent), but it also includes the rest of the command prompt contents
[00:41] <Gnea> bernardo: what version of the nvidia driver did you install?
[00:41] <bernardo> 310
[00:41] <bernardo> Gnea: 310
[00:41] <usr13> Left_Turn: valgrind /home/user/Documents/this/is/just/an/example
[00:42] <Gnea> bernardo: tried 304?
[00:42] <skyler> No ideas?
[00:42] <bernardo> I've tried with other versions
[00:42] <ironbutt_> so new stuff starts at line 40
[00:42] <Left_Turn> oh
[00:42] <usr13> Left_Turn: Hint:  The Tab Key is your friend.
[00:42] <bernardo> Gnea: Yes I did
[00:42] <Left_Turn> i didnt see user in the path
[00:42] <Left_Turn> ok let me see
[00:42] <k1l> ironbutt_: i dont know which command is in which order now. but make sure that the last fglrx install doesnt show"Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the"
[00:42] <yourimym1> gnea: 1st i have no cd rom drive , i want to boot ubuntu from usb stick to merge some partion to my ubuntu drive , so .. how can i get help
[00:42] <Gnea> skyler: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update     any errors there?
[00:42] <alexi> k1l: looks like ironbutt is also getting this line on installation "update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken"
[00:42] <ironbutt_> that's a complete copy paste of my ENTIRE terminal window
[00:43] <bernardo> Gnea: I'm having to run nvidia-settings with optirun for it to open. But even when it opens it doesn't detect the my main display resolution nor the monitor I have connected to the laptop
[00:43] <Gnea> !usb | yourimym1
[00:43] <ironbutt_> so theyre in the order theyre in
[00:43] <MK`> I just installed ubuntu 64-bit but I'm getting a lot of issues. Can I install it a new 32-bit replacing the 64-bit one, but leave my /home directory (on a separate partition) alone?
[00:43] <skyler> Yeah, it fails to fetch 2 repos, I assume because 6.06 is long since EOL
[00:43] <ironbutt_> line 133
[00:43] <labcoattech> hi all
[00:43] <k1l> ironbutt_: "uname -a" please
[00:43] <ironbutt_> it shows that
[00:43] <Gnea> bernardo: what version of ubuntu?
[00:44] <bernardo> Gnea: 12.10
[00:44] <Gnea> skyler: you're on 6.06?
[00:44] <skyler> Yeah, trying to update to 8.04
[00:44] <skyler> via the software upgrade thing
[00:44] <labcoattech> managed to install radeon drivers from ati site, beta drivers and it works with CS Source
[00:44] <usr13> Left_Turn: You can do ~/Documents/Path/To/my_file
[00:44] <Gnea> bernardo: have you gone through this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors
[00:44] <Gnea> bernardo: it's a little old, but might still be applicable
[00:44] <ironbutt_> results of uname -a: Linux ironsoul-desktop 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 20 12 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:44] <agu10^> virtualbox doesn't hide the ubuntu desktop when in seamless mode. yet another bug
[00:45] <ironbutt_> I haven't rebooted yet by the way
[00:45] <Gnea> skyler: oh, okay... I misunderstood... thought you were already on 8.04 lol... one sec
[00:45] <skyler> nope, and okay
[00:45] <usr13> Left_Turn: ~/  will start you off in your /home/Left_Turn (home directory).
[00:45] <skyler> I've googled around and I haven't really found anything
[00:45] <k1l> ironbutt_: is there a reason you are not on the latest kernel?
[00:45] <yourimym1> http://pastebin.com/SVN52sdb
[00:45] <skyler> I'm on i386 if that makes any difference
[00:45] <bernardo> Gnea: Yes, but I cannot open nvidia-settings in a regular way. I've been using ubuntu with dual screen on laptops with nvidia video cards since 3 years ago and it's the first time this is happening :/
[00:46] <ironbutt_> yeah probably, I ran a PPA yesterday by some guy that does some stuff, including but probably not limited to downgrading Xorg server from 1.13 to 1.12
[00:46] <ironbutt_> likely is it also downgraded the kernel
[00:46] <Gnea> skyler: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[00:46] <Gnea> skyler: follow that, should get you through it
[00:46] <k1l> ironbutt_: ok. than its no wonder that there is no kernel header for it
[00:46] <Gnea> bernardo: even with sudo?
[00:46] <skyler> Gnea: thank you very much! I will report back with success or failure
[00:47] <Gnea> skyler: cheers
[00:47] <ironbutt_> you don't want me to reinstall ubuntu do you?
[00:47] <ironbutt_> because even on the latest stuff I had this issue, that's why I ran that PPA in the first place
[00:47] <k1l> ironbutt_: wait
[00:47] <jake_> Anyone here ever got the software from playon.tv to run in Ubuntu ?
[00:47] <bernardo> Gnea: Even with sudo... The only way to run nvidia-settings is with "optirun nvidia-settings -c :8" and it still doesn't run right
[00:47] <usr13> Left_Turn: So,  /home/Left_Turn/Documents/Home/Tutorial/my_file  is the same as ~/Documents/Home/Tutorial/my_file
[00:47] <k1l> ironbutt_: try that "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.5.0-17"
[00:47] <Gnea> bernardo: okay.  try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081829
[00:48] <Gnea> bernardo: I gotta go afk for a bit
[00:48] <Left_Turn> ok thnx usr13
[00:48] <MK`> Urg, when I boot it sends me to tty1
[00:48] <usr13> Left_Turn: Are you catching on yet?  (Get it?)
[00:48] <bernardo> Gnea: I'll try. Thanks :)
[00:48] <MK`> I really need help, please. When it drops me in there, how can I start x and etc.?
[00:48] <Left_Turn> yes im am.. the program i think is faulty but im understanding
[00:48] <ironbutt_> I'm gonna go uninstall fglrx and purge it andwhat not, then I'm going to reboot, then I'll run that command you said
[00:48] <k1l> ironbutt_: or linux-headers-3.5.0-17-generic
[00:49] <usr13> Left_Turn: And don't forget, the Tab Key is your friend.
[00:49] <jake_> playon.tv software running in ubuntu ?
[00:49] <k1l> ironbutt_: no
[00:49] <Left_Turn> i wont:)
[00:49] <k1l> ironbutt_: do it now
[00:49] <Gnea> bernardo: also, http://osadvices.com/how-to-set-up-nvidia-dual-monitors-in-linux-ubuntu/
[00:49] <ironbutt_> ok
[00:49] <k1l> ironbutt_: if you isntall the kernel headers and let dkms build  fglrx module all is sorted out
[00:49] <usr13> MK`: lightdm
[00:50] <bernardo> Gnea: Thanks, but I don't even have a xorg.conf
[00:50] <Hyperbyte> Everytime I install Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop it errors after copying all files, during "Installing system".  The installer just says it's an unrecoverable error, without giving details.  It does offer to drop me to a desktop.  Does anyone have any ideas why?
[00:51] <MK`> hm, lightdm is failing to run.
[00:51] <ironbutt_> alright that downloaded another 12MB or so
[00:51] <ironbutt_> 11.2MB to be closer
[00:51] <ironbutt_> any more commands I need to run?
[00:51] <yourimym1> i've the ubuntu iso and usb stick , cant download usb creator , and need simple insturction to make usb bootable device and live CD plz
[00:51] <usr13> MK`: And what is the nature of that failure?
[00:51] <k1l> ironbutt_: reinstall fglrx
[00:51] <usr13> MK`: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:52] <k1l> ironbutt_: make sure its not stating the missing sources like before
[00:52] <Kentrel> Is it possible to create a bash array that contains a series of folders?
[00:52] <ironbutt_> ok
[00:52] <Kentrel> So I can then pass it to rsync
[00:52] <Hyperbyte> Browsing around on the filesystem it actually looks like it failed making initramfs or installing grub...
[00:52] <MK`> When I run lightdm in test mode it says "Failed to get D-Bus connection"; when I run as sudo, "Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager, do you have appropriate permissions?"
[00:53] <MK`> end of the xorg log is "Server terminated successfully (0)".
[00:53] <MK`> "open ACPI failed" is in there, hm.
[00:54] <ironbutt_> I'm getting what looks like different
[00:54] <usr13> MK`: Was it booting your GUI before?
[00:54] <ironbutt_> building initial module
[00:54] <ironbutt_> depmod....
[00:54] <k1l> ironbutt_: if you are unsure show a pastebinit
[00:54] <Left_Turn> any ideas what command i can use to install this.. libc6-dbg
[00:54] <MK`> It booted once, then I installed a new display driver that steam had recommended... I guess that caused the issue.
[00:55] <usr13> MK`: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:55] <MK`> ok, done
[00:55] <usr13> MK`: Try again.
[00:55] <MK`> Still the same error when running lightdm
[00:56] <MK`> I'll reboot
[00:56] <usr13> MK`: reboot
[00:56] <yourimym1>  i've the ubuntu iso and usb stick , cant download usb creator , and need simple insturction to make usb bootable device and live CD plz
[00:56] <ironbutt_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667651/
[00:56] <ironbutt_> obviously different
[00:56] <Left_Turn> my terminal told me: the package you need to install on Debian, Ubuntu is called: libc6-dbg ...im lost .. any ideas?
[00:56] <k1l> ironbutt_: looks good
[00:56] <k1l> ironbutt_: rebbot
[00:57] <ironbutt_> I'm terrified
[00:57] <ironbutt_> linux is terrifying
[00:57] <bernardo> Hey guys, does anyone have any idea on how to make my ubuntu 12.10 work with dual screen? I have a geforce 650m, which only works with bumblebee, but the nvidia-settings is not working as it should and I don't even have a xorg.conf
[00:58] <skyler> Okay I am back, I have reached a snag
[00:58] <Tex_Nick> i'm currently booted into win xp, could someone please tell me if there is a lightscribe app in ubuntu "software center" for 12.10 ?
[00:59] <MK`> same thing usr13 :(
[00:59] <ironbutt_> ok, rebooted, got a mouse, bckground....... there's unity.... looking good so far
[00:59] <k1l> Tex_Nick: packages.ubuntu.com could help
[00:59] <skyler> Who was helping me before?
[00:59] <skyler> Gnea, it was gnea
[01:00] <Gnea> bernardo: you make an xorg.conf and put it in /etc/X11/, then the system sees that it's there and uses that next time X starts
[01:00] <yourimym1> hi is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:00] <yourimym1> conatain also live usb ?
[01:00] <Gnea> yourimym1: yes
[01:00] <Gnea> skyler: yes
[01:00] <yourimym1> thx
[01:00] <skyler> so gnea, when I do sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:01] <skyler> It asks me if I am root
[01:01] <ironbutt_> fglrxinfo is showing some promising information...
[01:01] <skyler> E: I wasn't able to locate file for the ubuntu-desktop package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[01:01] <skyler> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[01:01] <Tex_Nick> k1l : yeah thanks i'll have a look there :-)
[01:01] <ironbutt_> lspci -k is showing that I'm using  a Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
[01:01] <Gnea> skyler: why did you need to run that command?
[01:01] <skyler> any ideas?
[01:01] <skyler> to update
[01:01] <k1l> ironbutt_: im pretty sure its running the fglrx now
[01:01] <skyler> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Dapper
[01:01] <ironbutt_> can I cheer now?
[01:02] <ironbutt_> I should write this down into  a document
[01:02] <bernardo> Gnea: I thought you were gone :) Should I type something in it?
[01:02] <Gnea> skyler: and you ran the upgrade and it worked just fine beforehand?
[01:02] <k1l> ironbutt_: i would recommend you now to sort that ppa and other kernel issue since that could make some problems too in future.
[01:02] <Gnea> bernardo: I'm back for a few mins :)
[01:02] <Gnea> well, about 5 secs.. then back again (cooking dinner)
[01:02] <MK`> usr13 ? :(
[01:02] <skyler> No, I have not
[01:02] <k1l> ironbutt_: just keep in mind to have the kernel headers for the kernel you use. thats it
[01:03] <subcool> help please- im not sure how to google this. Something happen to my Chrome Browser. chromium. - When ever i open it, it doesnt load any page, google, facebook. when i re-enter the address and press enter, it pops up with a download option. To download something from that page... even if there is nothing there.
[01:03] <subcool> its an odd error
[01:03] <bernardo> Gnea: hahaha, I created the file. I'll restart and see if it works. I'll be back in a minute
[01:03] <ironbutt_> yeah, I'll try to remember that
[01:04] <alexi> k1l: Is the issue you are helping ironbutt resolve a 12.10 issue. A lot of his outputs from before were similar to mine but I am on 12.04 and 32 bit architecture. The symptoms we are having were slightly different however, but if you could tell me where ironbutts root issue was I may have a better starting point for looking into my own problem?
[01:04] <yourimym1> i need help to take some space from partion and add it to my system partion , with fast way and safe way
[01:05] <k1l> alexi: in his case it was missing kernel headers that stopped the fglrx install from building the module
[01:05] <Gnea> skyler: okay, make sure that you follow each step BEFORE you try to upgrade ubuntu-desktop. if you do that step out-of-order, it will probably not work, which is probably why you're getting that error message.
[01:05] <ironbutt_> alexi, are yo running an ati graphics card and upon attempting to install the amd proprietary fgrlx driver you end up with a unity that doesn't load properly?
[01:05] <skyler> yes, I have done all of the steps
[01:05]  * ironbutt_ cheers while he's got the chance
[01:06] <Gnea> skyler: you could also just type: sudo -i  and execute commands without prepending sudo
[01:06] <skyler> I already have haha, sudo su
[01:06] <bernardo> Gnea: Didn't work :(
[01:06] <Gnea> well sudo su is bad, sudo -i is more correct
[01:06] <skyler> well I will just work on this later
[01:06] <Gnea> bernardo: hm. :/
[01:07] <DrGrov> Hi. Running 12.04 and wanting to know how I can remove all files that Enna, the media player based of EFL foundation, has installed for me.
[01:07] <alexi> ironbutt: I have a amd R6770 that was working properly until the most recent update of fglrx from the 12.04 repos. It will no longer boot further than the bootsplash with fgrlx installed.
[01:07] <ga_sk8er> i just installed ubuntu. ive installed it before on another pc. this time some of the buttons on the screen dont appear. like to click "ok" or "cancel" its just a white bar for each ...luckily i  have a good memory which is which
[01:07] <skyler> Do you all think 12.10 would work okay on a thinkpad t40 if I stay away from unity?
[01:07] <bernardo> Gnea: nvidia-settings still only runs with optirun, shows 800x600 as my resolution, even though I do have 1080p right now, and it doesn't detect the other monitor
[01:07] <Gnea> bernardo: I'm not sure what optirun is
[01:07] <alexi> k1l I currently have both the generic and the generic-pae headers installed for my current kernel. Do you think this is problematic? Or is it ok to have both?
[01:07] <ironbutt_> solution is likely similar: find out linux kernel, install kernel headers, reinstall fuglerex
[01:08] <k1l> alexi: as long as dkms builds the module it is no problem
[01:08] <DrGrov> Can I do a sudo apt-get --purge on the dependencies Enna installed for me? I got it from the extras repos of 12.04.
[01:08] <agu10^> why install kernel headers?
[01:08] <Gnea> bernardo: OIC, you have an optimus-based nvidia card...
[01:08] <k1l> agu10^: dkms needs it
[01:08] <bernardo> Gnea: It's an option from bumblebee package I guess... It's to run stuff using acceleration
[01:08] <bernardo> Gnea: That's right!
[01:08] <ga_sk8er> im doing my update manager right now & theres 338 updates sao im hoping 1 of my updates has something to do with the video so i can see what im clicking on
[01:09] <alexi> ironbutt: headers are already installed due to I often compile from source for other uses, which is where my issue differed from your own. it is a conundrum.
[01:09] <agu10^> shouldn't all software that needs them, install them itself?
[01:09] <Gnea> bernardo: is it a laptop?
[01:09] <bernardo> Gnea: Yes, an asus
[01:09] <Gnea> bernardo: what's the model #?
[01:09] <bernardo> Gnea: N56V
[01:10] <ironbutt_> alright, my brain is exausted from that. I'll sort out the kernel issue another day. also my Xorg server is 1.12.4 and not the current version which is 1.13. I'll sort that out another day as well
[01:10] <ironbutt_> thanks a lot k1l, I appreciate it.
[01:11] <MK`> I just installed ubuntu 64-bit but I'm getting a lot of issues. Can I install it a new 32-bit replacing the 64-bit one, but leave my /home directory (on a separate partition) alone?..
[01:11] <k1l> ironbutt_: ppa-purge will help you on that
[01:11] <alexi> k1l: I suspect my issue is behind the scenes the module is not being built properly. I get some errors from install that concern me regarding broken links for kernel module .so files.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667470/ - looking at this do you think maybe something on my kernel is corrupted?
[01:11] <ironbutt_> what's the command to find out what linux kernel you have?
[01:11] <MiningMarsh> MK`: that should work fine.
[01:12] <MK`> ok, I'll do that
[01:12] <ironbutt_> I think I'll need that in the future
[01:12] <alexi> ironbutt uname -a
[01:12] <MK`> I was hoping 12.04.2 64-bit would, perhaps, work. No such luck :(
[01:12] <sp3ck> subcool, check prv man
[01:12] <ironbutt_> thanks
[01:12] <yourimym1> howdy , i need a guide to use live usb stick to manage my partion on hard disk and resizing it
[01:13] <MiningMarsh> yourimym1: if you use the latest gparted standalone iso for the live cd/usb the gui is pretty straightforward.
[01:13] <ironbutt_> yourimym1 this might be helpful http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:14] <yourimym1> what is gparted size ., and is it a GUI ?
[01:15] <MiningMarsh> gparted is a partitioning GUI
[01:15] <MiningMarsh> its very easy to use.
[01:15] <MK`> what do I need to replace when reinstalling then? Just /? What about /usr, /var, etc?
[01:15] <MiningMarsh> MK`: I would just nuke everything but your /home and reinstall.
[01:15] <MiningMarsh> maybe save your /etc too
[01:15] <MK`> ok
[01:16] <MK`> I have them all on separate partitions. I'll leave /tmp I guess.
[01:16] <alexi> k1l: originally I suspected this issue was my grub config contained settings to load uvesafb at startup and it would throw an error that it was unable to switch modes, but returning the configuration to default did not resolve this issue.
[01:16] <k1l_> yourimym1: just mak a live ubuntu usb stick. use usb-creator for example
[01:16] <MiningMarsh> MK`: you have /tmp on a seperate partition?
[01:16] <k1l_> yourimym1: or dd the image onto the usb-stick
[01:16] <MK`> yeah, I was testing out how it would perform.
[01:16] <yourimym1> i've done this alreaady
[01:16] <ironbutt_> unless you don't know the basics of partitioning
[01:16] <ironbutt_> then it's impoosible to use
[01:17] <ga_sk8er> ifu  go to the usb site where u  download the disc, theres a usb  file to download as well
[01:17] <yourimym1> k1l i've done this already
[01:17] <MiningMarsh> MK`: It seems like it would almost be faster to mount /tmp as a tmpfs, then convert that tmp partiiton to swap
[01:17] <ga_sk8er> *web site....not usb site
[01:17] <k1l_> yourimym1: and where is the issue?
[01:17] <MiningMarsh> and then just let the tmpfs swap out if it needs to
[01:17] <bernardo> Gnea: This is a hard one, right?! :)
[01:17] <MK`> right now I will focus on getting ubuntu to actually boot :P
[01:18] <KeyboardNotFound> who is securiest irc client ?
[01:18] <yourimym1> i want to resize a partion and make it smaller and take that free space to my ubuntu partion without loseng ddata
[01:19] <MiningMarsh> yourimym1: just boot the usb with the gparted image. The GUI is simple.
[01:19] <MK`> yourimym1: back up your data.
[01:19] <k1l_> yourimym1: resizing is always risky. there is no gaurantee that nothing will go wrong.
[01:19] <MK`> A friend of mine just had a resizing go wrong the other day, lost everything on his partition
[01:20] <k1l_> yourimym1: if you want to resize a win partition i would recommend to use the own windows tools. after that resize the ubuntu partition from the live usb with gparted
[01:20] <ironbutt_> hey, anyone know how to fix the "cannot send to channel" issue?
[01:20] <yourimym1> i've messed the last time and lost data , so i need clear instruction if you may plz
[01:20] <k1l_> ironbutt_: on which channel?
[01:20] <ironbutt_> this one
[01:20] <ironbutt_> someone else can't send messages to the channel
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> yourimym1: what is on the partition that you want to make smaller? Windows or Linux?
[01:20] <MiningMarsh> ironbutt_: I don't think you can. I usually get that when I my connection cuts out.
[01:20] <k1l_> ironbutt_: then he is banned
[01:20] <ReAzem> yourimym1, use gparted
[01:21] <ironbutt_> I got it earlier too though
[01:21] <ironbutt_> leaving and rejoining the channel did the trick
[01:21] <yourimym1> none normal partion contain movies
[01:21] <k1l_> ironbutt_: he should talk about that in #ubuntu-ops
[01:21] <yourimym1> use gparted under ubuntu ?
[01:21] <ReAzem> yourimym1, yes
[01:21] <ironbutt_> alrighty, thanks
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> yourimym1: is it formatted as a linux (ext) partition or windows (ntfs)?
[01:21] <aartist> Which software can can read lilypond music and convert into midi/music?
[01:22] <yourimym1> my ubuntu on ext4 and the other one is ntfs
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> yourimym1: do you have a Windows installation that uses that partition?
[01:22] <yourimym1> aha
[01:23] <MiningMarsh> aartist: give mplayer/mencoder a shot. I haven't seen a music format yet it can't handle.
[01:23] <yourimym1> but after installing windows along side it made ext4 one
[01:23] <PatrickDickey> So, you're dual-booting then yourimym1?
[01:24] <Gnea> bernardo: can you use pastebin to paste the output of this command?  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia
[01:24] <bernardo> Gnea: ii  nvidia-settings-313                       313.18-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal1                                            amd64        Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[01:25] <ironbutt_> alright, so I ppa purged the ppa
[01:25] <ironbutt_> did a sudo apt-get update
[01:25] <Gnea> bernardo: that's it?
[01:25] <ironbutt_> then a sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <ironbutt_> and it's saying, the following packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic
[01:25] <yourimym1> PatrickDickey:  yes
[01:26] <ironbutt_> which I'm guessing is the thing I want
[01:26] <bernardo> Gnea: Yes, that's it,
[01:26] <bernardo> bernardo@bernardo-N56VZ:~$ dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia
[01:26] <bernardo> ii  nvidia-settings-313                       313.18-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal1                                            amd64        Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[01:26] <bernardo> bernardo@bernardo-N56VZ:~$
[01:26] <Gnea> bernardo: okay, what about: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep bumblebee
[01:26] <aartist> MiningMarsh: May be I am not aware, but what I have is in File.ly format and it is a simple text file. How do I pass the filename, which option I should give to mplayer ?
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> yourimym1: Then you want to boot into Windows, defrag the partition, since it's NTFS, and use the Computer Management to resize it. That should guarantee you won't lose your data.
[01:27] <bernardo> Gnea: ii  bumblebee                                 3.0.1-3~quantalppa2                                                         amd64        nVidia Optimus support
[01:28] <ironbutt_> oh well, this will bite me in the arse in the future, but I'm just going to leave the old kernel there
[01:28] <MiningMarsh>  aartist: mplayer auto-detects the file format usually. If it can't read it, then I guess it can't handle it.
[01:29] <Gnea> bernardo: okay, try installing bumblebee-nvidia
[01:30] <bernardo> Gnea: On the way
[01:30] <Gnea> bernardo: btw, reading this: http://www.bumblebee-project.org/install.html#Ubuntu
[01:30] <Gnea> bernardo: afk
[01:30] <ironbutt_> cya, I need a break from irc
[01:30] <yourimym1> PatrickDickey: should i defrag is it a must ?
[01:31] <bernardo> Gnea: I followed this link before and had everything installed at some point. I have removed everything and reinstalled a couple times. Hope this time it works!
[01:31] <MiningMarsh> yourimym1: try and resize it without defragging, and if windows says it can't, then yes, you must defrag.
[01:31] <PatrickDickey> yourimym1: It makes sure that you don't have any pieces of a file in the space you're taking away.
[01:31] <yourimym1> have i said my ubuntu on ext4 partion ?
[01:31] <Kolusion> Hi all.
[01:32] <yourimym1> patrickdaydickey: how is that ?
[01:32]  * Prokurent  
[01:32] <anatil> heey
[01:32] <yourimym1> by takeing free space only u mean ?
[01:32] <Prokurent> so guize...
[01:32] <Prokurent> i just started using awesomewm
[01:33] <Prokurent> having some troubles getting around
[01:33] <MiningMarsh> yourimym1: the end of your partition is going to dissapear when you resize. Defragging puts all teh files at teh beggining of the partition so they won't be at the end when you remove the end by resizing it.
[01:33] <PatrickDickey> When you save files, it puts them wherever it can find space. So, you want to defrag to make sure that it didn't put a piece in the portion that you're taking away from Windows.
[01:33] <holstein> Prokurent: http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/FAQ is what i would refer to
[01:33] <Prokurent> okay
[01:33] <Prokurent> just what i was looking for
[01:34] <Kolusion> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 from Ubuntu 10.04 and installed GNOME 3. I am using GDM as my display manager and having a minor issue with it where names that arn't suppose to be showing on the greeter screen, are showing. Does anyone know how I can users on the greeter screen?
[01:34] <Prokurent> but first...
[01:34] <Kolusion> *hide users
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> yourimym1: Defrag will arrange all of the pieces and put the free space at the end (which is what you need for resizing).
[01:34] <yourimym1> MiningMarsh: would that opreation be fast ?
[01:34] <savagecroc> i need to do something like    sudo chown {current_logged_in_user} /path/to/file    how can i get the name of the current logged in user?
[01:34] <ga_sk8er> ok i have all my updates installed now & im still getting same issue......some of the buttons & things on my steam arent appearing & i  gotta guess what they are....cna it be that i  didnt install a video card adapter & going with the default?
[01:35] <MiningMarsh> yourimym1: depends. If the files are already near the beggining then yes, it could be fast. But it could also be stupidly slow.
[01:36] <PatrickDickey> savagecroc: If you open a terminal, it should show you. You'll see something like savagecroc@localhost
[01:36] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667949/
[01:36] <ga_sk8er> the whole reason i installed linux today is to try the steam on linux & i cant get it to let me view everything just right
[01:36] <yourimym1> take from /dev/sda7 to sd8
[01:37] <holstein> !ati | ga_sk8er
[01:37] <savagecroc> PatrickDickey: I'm writing scripts.. i need a command to get it
[01:37] <holstein> ga_sk8er: it wont hurt to take some time and look for different drivers and try them
[01:38] <yourimym1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1667964/
[01:38] <aartist> MiningMarsh: Usual music is in some sort of binary format.. This is in text format, and you need to convert that into tones.
[01:38] <ga_sk8er> im running a hard drive on my mom's pc so im not really sure what video card she has
[01:38] <PatrickDickey> ga_sk8er: What video card do you have? I know ATI is releasing a beta version that they fixed for steam on Ubuntu.
[01:38] <yourimym1> or suppose i use hiren boot app
[01:39] <holstein> ga_sk8er: the link i gave should show you how to search for what device you have, and what drivers are available
[01:39] <PatrickDickey> ga_sk8er: open a terminal, and type in sudo lspci | grep VGA and it will tell you.
[01:39] <bernardo> Gnea: I'll reboot, hang on
[01:41] <Kolusion> Switch to root, then type 'rm -rf /' to see an easter egg left by the developers of bash. Its quite funny.
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> Don't do it. Unless you want to spend the rest of the night fixing your system.
[01:41] <k1l_> !danger
[01:42] <ga_sk8er> im seeing 2 video cards but im not sure which is the card im plugged into
[01:42] <savagecroc> PatrickDickey: sudo echo $LOGNAME does the trick
[01:43] <PatrickDickey> savagecroc: Glad to hear you found it. I'll have to remember that.
[01:43] <bernardo> Gnea: Still doesn't work :/
[01:43] <Left_Turn> usr13: i seem to be up and running now.. thnx for the help
[01:43] <savagecroc> PatrickDickey: yeah they have whoami, logname, $SUDO_USER, USER and $LOGNAME
[01:43] <PatrickDickey> ga_sk8er: Paste the results into a pastebin, and we might be able to help you.
[01:43] <ga_sk8er> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01)
[01:44] <ga_sk8er> compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[01:44] <ga_sk8er> the 1st one is compatible controller: also...i dodnt highlight that part when i copied
[01:44] <PatrickDickey> ga_sk8er: You have an ATI Radeon 9200. It's not supported on the newest drivers from ATI.
[01:45] <ga_sk8er> im trying to figure out which of the 2 the monitor is hooked into
[01:45] <scooty_puff> has anyone here done a dist downgrade before?
[01:45] <k1l_> scooty_puff: that is not a real good idea
[01:45] <savagecroc> PatrickDickey: logname is the only guaranteed one regardless of sudo
[01:46] <PatrickDickey> ga_sk8er: You could open up Displays (System Settings) and see which one it's connected to that way. The card is a Radeon 9200 Pro though.
[01:46] <ech0pl3x> hello all
[01:46] <Ziber> I have an HDMI external monitor and I want the sound to go through it, not from my laptop. Thoughts?
[01:47] <PatrickDickey> Ziber: Have you selected the HDMI port in Sound Settings?
[01:48] <PatrickDickey> Ziber: Output tab?
[01:48]  * Ziber looks
[01:48] <Elysium> I have no sound on ubuntu, it has worked but now in Sound in System settings there's no devices. Any ideas?
[01:48] <Elysium> I have no sound on ubuntu, it has worked but now in Sound in System settings there's no devices. Any ideas?
[01:48] <Elysium> I have no sound on ubuntu, it has worked but now in Sound in System settings there's no devices. Any ideas?
[01:48] <FloodBot1> Elysium: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:48] <Ziber> PatrickDickey: Only option is "speakers, built in audio"
[01:49] <savagecroc> hmm any idea how i can use the command logname to do   chown result_from_log_name /path/to/file ?
[01:49] <ga_sk8er> when i  go into the display settings it just tells me about my monitor. it dont mention the video card
[01:49] <PatrickDickey> !sound | Elysium and Ziber This might help both of you out.
[01:49] <Elysium> theres nothing in input or output!!
[01:49] <Elysium> lol
[01:50] <Elysium> ah man, i hate linux.
[01:50] <Tex_Nick> Ziber : first thing that pops into my mind is that the speakers on the monitor will probably provide REALLY poor sound quality ... might be better than the speakers on your lappy though ?
[01:50] <ga_sk8er> when i  click the "details" setting listed under "system" & click on "graphics" it shows driver unknown so i dont think it loaded a driver
[01:50] <holstein> Elysium: have you referred to that link above?
[01:50] <PatrickDickey> Elysium: the second link in that might help you though. Troubleshooting Sound.
[01:50] <Ziber> Tex_Nick: It's a TV...
[01:51] <knoppies> Ziber, still, not many TVs have good built in speakers. Just enough to let them say it has speakers on the box.
[01:51] <Tex_Nick> Ziber : ahh that will be a LOT better then :-)
[01:52] <Ziber> Either way, the speakers on there are much better than my laptop. Neither of those links seemed to help. Is there like an HDMI-sound package I download?
[01:52] <holstein> Ziber: i would try pavucontrol, but the sound might not be supported
[01:53] <holstein> Ziber: i usually just go out of the headphone jack
[01:53] <bernardo> Gnea: Do you have any other idea?
[01:53] <Ziber> I have just an HDMI cable.
[01:54] <holstein> Ziber: im just letting you know, it might not work.. it doesnt have to have support in linux, and might not... but the headphone jack likely works right now
[01:54] <holstein> Ziber: you can usually see, in the terminal if you run "aplay -l" what devices are available.. that is in the link above for troubleshooting
[01:55] <knoppies> I recently recreated xorg.conf (and then removed some lines to get it to work) after an apt-get upgrade rendered my desktop environment useless (it froze while booting) I use Arandr to change my resolution and now the 'bounding box' is only 1440px wide, when it used to be 1366+1440 wide. Does anybody know how to change it?
[01:55] <Ziber> that seems to work
[01:55] <Ziber> :D
[01:55] <Ziber> Got sound out of the TV
[01:56] <knoppies> Ziber, good :)
[01:56]  * PatrickDickey isn't a fan of HDMI on laptops...  I burned out two USB ports on a Dell laptop by running video and audio through HDMI to a TV. :S
[01:56] <holstein> knoppies: you might see a backup in /etc/X11 ..i usually make backups... sometimes i'll use a knoppix live CD to create an xorg.conf
[01:57]  * PatrickDickey of course it was a Windows 7 installation, so that might be 99% of the reason...
[01:57] <knoppies> holstein, I cant use the backup, then it wont boot into my Desktop Environment, it will freeze unless I boot it into a root console. (i did create a backup though)
[01:57] <ga_sk8er> i forget if my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit version...needing to know before i get my driver
[01:58] <Fuchs> ga_sk8er: uname -m   might show it
[01:58] <knoppies> ga_sk8er, uname -a will show it. Look for x86_64
[01:58] <Fuchs> (only being the kernel, but it would be unlikely to have a different arch there than on the rest of the system)
[01:58] <holstein> knoppies: you can try as a different user to be certain its x related
[01:59] <ga_sk8er> i686....i guess i get the 86 version of the driver
[01:59] <Fuchs> ga_sk8er: hang on, what driver?
[01:59] <knoppies> holstein, I've spent all weekend getting X to work again, I rolled back the update package by package, the only thing that worked was re-creating the xorg.conf file. When I ran Xorg -configure it gave me an error something like "number of displays does not match number detected" so I removed the 3rd Screen, 3rd Monitor and 3rd Device in the xorg.conf.new file and copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Then it booted fine.
[01:59] <ga_sk8er> radeon 9200
[01:59] <Fuchs> ga_sk8er: manually installing drivers is usually not the wisest of all ideas
[02:00] <Fuchs> ga_sk8er: yeah, don't do that. Manually installing such a driver will end up in conflicts plus it will not be registered with dkms and hence break with every new kernel that gets installed
[02:00] <knoppies> ga_sk8er, yes i686 is 32bit.
[02:00] <ga_sk8er> then how do i fix my video issue?
[02:00] <usr13> ga_sk8er: What IS your video issue?
[02:00] <Fuchs> ga_sk8er: best would be using the distro provided driver, if that doesn't work / you have very good reasons to get a newer one, a ppa might help (use on own risk, but note that it is still better than a manual installation)
[02:01] <ga_sk8er> i installed linux so i can play steam games on it. when i  go into steam, everything isnt loading right
[02:01] <usr13> ga_sk8er: What video card do you have?
[02:01] <knoppies> usr13, he said taht earlier.
[02:01] <ga_sk8er> compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01)
[02:01] <knoppies> usr13, radeon 9200
[02:01] <ga_sk8er> the 1 im getting the driver for...im getting driver from radeon
[02:02] <usr13> ga_sk8er: What problem do you have now? (What issue is it that you are trying to solve?)
[02:02] <knoppies> ga_sk8er, get the radeon driver, but be prepared to do a format and re-install in the future.
[02:02] <ga_sk8er> should i search the ubuntu software center first?
[02:02] <ClientAlive> ok, so... again I need help to get a command right. I didn't make this one on my own so don't think I'm that advanced. Someone helped me with a command for a dirfferent purpose and I'm tryingt to modify it to suit my now purpose. -> I have some direcotries wich contain media that I want to .tar.gz It is a mixture of ones I want to tar and ones I don't. All the ones I want to tar will have a "]" character in the name. Here is what I have so
[02:02] <ClientAlive> far but I'm getting errors. Can soneone help me dial it in?
[02:02] <ClientAlive> Torrent$ find /home/shine/Downloads/Torrent/ -maxdepth 1 -name '*]' -print0 | xargs -0 -I here tar -zcvf here 'xargx -0 -I here'.tar.gz
[02:03] <ga_sk8er> when i go into the steam program, not everything will show up. some friends display pics wont show, i was gonna install my game after installing steam but i cant make out what the box is to get a checkmark. the other box is to add image on desktop but it wont let me read whats beside the other box
[02:04] <knoppies> ga_sk8er, yea, or synaptic. There should also be "additional drivers" under settings
[02:05] <knoppies> holstein, do you have any ideas how to increase the theoretical maximum resolution for ARandR (I suspect its a xorg config somewhere?)
[02:05] <ga_sk8er> yeah i  looked in additional drivers already...nothing listed
[02:06] <holstein> knoppies: i usually just boot a knoppix live CD, get my desktop look "right" and grab the xorg from there.. other than that, id have to look at your specific xorg, and search around to make sense of it
[02:06] <knoppies> holstein, are you offering? I can dump it in pastebin. I might try the knoppix CD approach.
[02:07] <holstein> knoppies: im sure someone will look at it.. im not saying i'll be able to help, but dump it in
[02:07] <usr13> ga_sk8er: First try:   jockey-gtk    If you don't get desired results see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto and/or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:07] <Akshayr> unable to install vlc via terminal
[02:08] <k1l_> Akshayr: can you show the error?
[02:08] <knoppies> Akshayr, what command do you use? apt-get install vlc?
[02:08] <ga_sk8er> Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[02:08] <Akshayr> knoppies : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:08] <Akshayr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:08] <ga_sk8er> i got that message twice...i guess cause of 2 video cards
[02:08] <k1l_> Akshayr: close softwarecenter
[02:08] <Akshayr> wat shld do nw
[02:09] <Akshayr> oh
[02:09] <Akshayr> i am installing another libre thru it
[02:09] <knoppies> you have to wait then.
[02:09] <k1l_> Akshayr: then wait :)
[02:09] <Elysium> Give up.
[02:10] <knoppies> holstein, Im looking at the backup xorg.conf and I think I've found the line Im looking for. I will see if this works and if it doesnt I will pastebin.
[02:10] <Akshayr> :)
[02:12] <ga_sk8er> does a .run file run on its own...like an exe file in windows?
[02:12] <Akshayr> wat is xfce desktop?
[02:13] <holstein> !xfce
[02:13] <ech0pl3x> its a pretty nice and clean looking Desktop Enviroment.
[02:13] <holstein> ga_sk8er: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[02:13] <k1l_> ga_sk8er: needs to be made executable
[02:13] <ech0pl3x> I am running Xubuntu
[02:13] <knoppies> Akshayr, ITS GREAT!!!! you can google images to see what it generally looks like, but it is VERY customizable.
[02:13] <yourimym1> hello now i have unallocated space want to add it for my linux parition , any help
[02:13] <ech0pl3x> What Knopies said, very true
[02:13] <yourimym1> by gparted under ubuntu
[02:14] <knoppies> yourimym1, is the unallocated space next to your linux partition?
[02:14] <yourimym1> how do i know this ?
[02:14] <knoppies> Akshayr, it is also not very resource hungry, so good on older harder. I think LXDE is lighter though, but I havent done any benchmarks.
[02:14] <yourimym1> any sudo to know that it's next to it ?
[02:14] <tekk> are things going to explode if i simply copy vmlinuz (its kernel) from a debian box to an ubuntu box ?  (both amd64, but one is efi booting)
[02:15] <holstein> tekk: why not just use the stock ubuntu kernels?
[02:15] <g16> gparted has a big bar with the list of partitions, and somewhere a label "unallocated" over a gray rectangle... that's aunallocated space
[02:15] <GermainZ> Hey guys, Xorg is using ~20% of my CPU. Is that normal?
[02:15] <ga_sk8er> i got it running the driver file i  downloaded from radeon....they show that back in 2011 they made a driver for this model of video card
[02:15] <g16> linux partitions are usually ext's.
[02:15] <knoppies> yourimym1, in gparted there should be a graphical representation of the partitions on your selected HDD. If your linux partition and the unallocated spare are next to each other, then you are in luck.
[02:15] <tekk> holstein, i do use the stock kernels on ubuntu
[02:16] <g16> and blue-bordered.
[02:16] <tekk> but i don't want to :)
[02:16] <tekk> i have a highly customised debian kernel, that i paid someone to do
[02:16] <tekk> it works very well
[02:16] <holstein> tekk: then, run what you like.. as long as you are OK with the risk
[02:16] <tekk> and doesn't suffer from some bugs that the ubuntu one does (i'm running Mac Mini's)
[02:16] <tekk> but would copying the kernel from a debian to ubuntu box work?
[02:16] <tekk> is my question i suppose
[02:16] <usr13> ga_sk8er:  grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #See what video driver you are running now.
[02:16] <knoppies> tekk, can you not backup and and try to see if it works?
[02:17] <holstein> tekk: should.. its debian based.. ubuntu is not "expecting" that kernel, so there could be some issues..
[02:17] <tekk> https://sites.google.com/site/balihb/custom-kernel-ubuntu-debian is this a sensible post?
[02:17] <tekk> ( i want to figure out how to safely backup the kernel from debian )
[02:17] <tekk> normally if it was debian -> debian, i'd just rsync vmlinuz or something
[02:18] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Yes, the video driver for that card should have been loaded by default
[02:18] <k1l_> tekk: i dont think a ubuntu will run with the debian kernel
[02:18] <yourimym1> what about screenshot
[02:18] <yourimym1> http://uppix.net/a/0/a/cf71134eb702eeb67ca11871e69ce.png
[02:18] <tekk> ok, then next question :)
[02:18] <ga_sk8er> idk why it didnt
[02:18] <tekk> ubuntu is freezing up for me when a kvm guest starts consuming a lot of resources
[02:19] <usr13> ga_sk8er: driver=radeon
[02:19] <tekk> the stack trace i get is related to IO i believe… but i've tried a different disk
[02:19] <tekk> http://pastebin.com/pijbqVkE
[02:19] <holstein> tekk: i would probably try a server specific resource.. someone who has used that technology a lot
[02:19] <sampson623> I need help :(((
[02:19] <tekk> yeah, i tried there…. :( no joy really
[02:19] <sampson623> How can I switch back to my old windows?
[02:19] <tekk> been "trial and error"ing a lot of stuff
[02:20] <ga_sk8er> usr13 i did the grep Driver but it isnt displaying anything at all...not even the terminal username
[02:20] <usr13> ga_sk8er: sudo lshw -C video |grep driver
[02:20] <yourimym1> knoppies: g16: screenshot http://uppix.net/a/0/a/cf71134eb702eeb67ca11871e69ce.png
[02:20] <tekk> what i need is someone who is an expert on running ubuntu in compatibility mode on Mac Mini's!
[02:20] <tekk> heh
[02:20] <knoppies> yourimym1, see that the ext4 is near the left, in the dashed bordered box? That needs to be next to the unallocated. So you need to move /dev/sda5 to the right. I recommend you do a good backup of everything you want to keep on that HDD before you attempt to move it.
[02:21] <yourimym1> can i move they unallocated to the right insted ?
[02:21] <k1l_> yourimym1: you have booted a live-usb?
[02:21] <knoppies> yourimym1, moving partitions normally takes quite a long time (depends on how big and how fast your drive is) so you might want to plan to do something while it moves.
[02:21] <k1l_> dont try to move the partitions when you run your regular ubuntu from that same disk
[02:21] <yourimym1> yes i have live-usb did it by start up disk creator
[02:22] <knoppies> yourimym1, you need to move unallocated to the left. You are going to swap the unallocated with the /dev/sda5.
[02:22] <Akshayr> i just created an account in ubuntu
[02:22] <Akshayr> hw is it useful for me
[02:22] <yourimym1> is it a must to boot from live-usb ?
[02:22] <k1l_> yourimym1: yes
[02:23] <yourimym1> , is there fast way ?
[02:23] <knoppies> yourimym1, YES, unless you can boot from a different HDD. You cannot use the same HDD while you are moving it.
[02:23] <k1l_> that doesnt look like a live-system to me
[02:23] <knoppies> yourimym1, you mean fast way to move the partition? Not really.
[02:23] <yourimym1> it's about 105.47 gb ETA plz ?
[02:23] <knoppies> yourimym1, you could just create a different partition and move some files across, but then they will be two separate partitions.
[02:24] <ga_sk8er> usr13 i tried to do the command exactly asu  showed me but it tells me different formats & options lshw can be
[02:24] <knoppies> yourimym1, that depends on what HDD you have. but assume 20mb/s
[02:24] <ga_sk8er> it acts like something got typed wrong
[02:24] <knoppies> yourimym1, or 40mb/s
[02:24] <yourimym1> 20
[02:24] <usr13> ga_sk8er: sudo lshw -C video |grep driver
[02:24] <yourimym1> 20mb/s
[02:25] <subcool> sp3ck, idk- my comps acting weird
[02:26] <knoppies> yourimym1, if it goes at 20MB/s then it will take about 90mins give or take.
[02:26] <yourimym1> ETA , and instruction to use live-usb  then , how to swap . which thing i choose from menu
[02:26] <usr13> mine's actgin wired
[02:26] <Tex_Nick> knoppies : you just brought a question to mind ... i'm currently booted into win xp ... formating a new 2Tb drive ... it's been running for a couple hours now & is @ ~70% ... i don't think ubuntu would have taken near this long ???
[02:26] <subcool> sp3ck, im trying to reinstall now, but its just sitting htere.
[02:26] <usr13> *acting*
[02:26] <ga_sk8er> Product-Name:~$ sudo lshw -C video |grep driver
[02:26] <ga_sk8er>        configuration: driver=radeon latency=32 mingnt=8
[02:27] <ga_sk8er> apparently my driver got installed
[02:27] <sp3ck> subcool, what's sitting here? chromium?
[02:27] <yourimym1> does it contain gpart under ubutnu live cd  ?
[02:27] <knoppies> Tex_Nick, there are 2 ways to partition a drive, the long way and the quick way. Do you understand why deleting a file does not really delete it from an HDD?
[02:27] <subcool> sp3ck, no, my attempt at installing it..
[02:28] <knoppies> yourimym1, yes they normally do, if it does not then just type in sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:28] <subcool> sp3ck, Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/universe chromium-codecs-ffmpeg amd64 24.0.1312.56-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[02:28] <subcool>   Connection failed
[02:28] <yourimym1> ok after that how do i use it
[02:28] <knoppies> yourimym1, or find it in synpatic if you would rather do it that way.
[02:28] <knoppies> yourimym1, it comes up in the programs menu under settings I think.
[02:29] <sp3ck> subcool, sudo apt-get update
[02:29] <yourimym1> gparted how do i move unallocated next to linux parition
[02:29] <knoppies> yourimym1, in gparted click on /dev/sda5 and then click on Partition->Resize/Move
[02:29] <subcool> sp3ck, craps out there too
[02:29] <knoppies> yourimym1, want me to try find a youtube video that explains it?
[02:30] <k1l_> sp3ck: show in pastebin please
[02:30] <subcool> sp3ck, my system is really takinga dump :/
[02:30] <yourimym1> the when i chose resize /move then ?
[02:30] <yourimym1> choose to the right , !!
[02:30] <yourimym1> video will be awesome :)
[02:32] <sp3ck> k1l_, show what in pastebin?
[02:32] <k1l_> sp3ck: the sudo apt-get update command
[02:32] <knoppies> yourimym1, yes, you move it to the right. I can only find videos on resizing, none on moving.
[02:32] <ga_sk8er> a htought occurred....since my steam program is only thing messing up on me, could it be that maybe it requires adobe flash & since i installed linux today, i  havent installed flash yet
[02:32] <sp3ck> k1l_, you mean the output?
[02:33] <k1l_> sp3ck: yes
[02:33] <sp3ck> k1l_, yeap..
[02:33] <k1l_> we cant just only guess what is happening on your amchine
[02:33] <sp3ck> k1l_, this not my prob man i'm helping subcool
[02:34] <sp3ck> subcool, paste it plz
[02:34] <knoppies> yourimym1, when you click on move/resize this window will come up: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2009/gparted-move.png Just click on the box and drag it ALL the way to the right.
[02:34] <k1l_> sp3ck: argh, sry
[02:34] <knoppies> yourimym1, just make sure you click move/resize when you have /dev/sda5 selected.
[02:34] <k1l_> subcool: please pastebin the output from sudo apt-get update
[02:35] <subcool> k11_ sp3ck, its hard to paste- when i run it, it freezes on some archives..
[02:35] <yourimym1> knoppies : drag from the right arrow to the end ?
[02:35] <savagecroc> how does upstart start a process again  with the same process id?
[02:36] <knoppies> yourimym1, NO, the box. If you just drag the right arrow, then you will RESIZE and NOT move it.
[02:36] <sp3ck> subcool, sudo apt-get update > ~/output.txt
[02:37] <yourimym1> i stand in the middile of the box between two arrows and drag to the right end ?
[02:38] <knoppies> yourimym1, yes.
[02:38] <usr13> savagecroc: ?
[02:39] <invisime> I'm having trouble getting sound to work in zsnes when I launch it via xbmc. I think this is some kind of alsa/dmix issue since sound works fine in xbmc, and it works fine in zsnes if I stop xbmc first and then start zsnes. I'm using the ubuntu 12.10 minimal install, and have a one-liner .asoundrc which makes my usb sound card the default for alsa (since the audio jacks broke off the main board). why would the sound work in 
[02:39] <savagecroc> usr13: i do a killall nginx.. and upstart immediatly restarts the process with identical process ids.. i thought they were randomly assigned
[02:39] <yourimym1> the i run live usb and choose try ubuntu ? and then proccedd
[02:39] <bernardo> Hi everybody. Gnea was helping me but I think he's not here anymore. I'm not being able to make nvidia-settings work on my laptop with geforce 650m (optimus). I have installed bumblebee but nvidia-settings will run only with optirun, not detect the other monitor, and get the wrong resolution for my laptop display. Any ideas?
[02:40] <subcool> sp3ck, k1l_ give me a bit- my cmps acting stpuid..
[02:41] <sp3ck> subcool, take ur time, i'm compiling a coffee here :)
[02:41] <usr13> savagecroc: service
[02:41] <yourimym1> thx all for being such helpfull
[02:45] <subcool> sp3ck, i more waiting on this stupid computer. Something is up. Usually an update takes 1 min. Its taking forever now....
[02:45] <usr13> savagecroc: "service nginx status"  will tell you what it's doing, (or not doing)  "service nginx stop"  will stop it. "service nginx start" will start it. (prefex those commands with sudo)
[02:46] <usr13> savagecroc: "service --status-all"  will tell you about all services.
[02:46] <sp3ck> subcool, try to ping your repo and check the latency. maybe it 's something wrong with the repositorie
[02:46] <savagecroc> usr13: yeah except i'm the one who stuck the init/nginx.conf file there.. so hmm
[02:46] <savagecroc> init.d/nginx.conf even
[02:47] <usr13> savagecroc: You did not install nginx via the package manager?
[02:47] <savagecroc> usr13: yeah couldn't.. needed specific modules compiled in
[02:48] <savagecroc> was i correct in thinking that in 2002 the package management was either non-existant or very basic?
[02:48] <savagecroc> i remember linux being far more difficult back then
[02:48] <savagecroc> i remember having to compile a lot of stuff by hand
[02:48] <semitones> Good evening/morning all!
[02:49] <usr13> savagecroc: You know that you could have added the modules afterwards. Right?
[02:49] <sp3ck> subcool, just tell me the average ping latency
[02:49] <savagecroc> usr13: i'm not sure, i'm following another guide for the install process.. basically i need nginx and a pre-release version of passenger
[02:49] <savagecroc> which is an nginx ruby module
[02:49] <herent> hello - I'm wondering if anyone is around that knows about mouse and keyboard configuration
[02:50] <usr13> savagecroc: Show me the guide you are using.
[02:50] <semitones> I need some advice: I was running the 11.10 -> 12.04 update, but it's halted on "cleaning up." Is it safe to kill update manager? What should I do?
[02:50] <subcool> sp3ck, how do i ping one?
[02:50] <sp3ck> subcool, ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <savagecroc> http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide%20Nginx%204.0.html << there is a section on ubuntu.. but the brightbox packages dont' include the pre-release package
[02:51] <herent> I injured my left hand and I'm trying to figure out how to map buttons on the mouse to key combinations
[02:51] <Tex_Nick> subcool : you might also click on details & look at "system monitor" performance tab to see if network is loading files or if cpu is loaded up ?
[02:51] <herent> or asign keystrokes to the extended buttons on my keyboard
[02:51] <sp3ck> subcool, u from us right?
[02:51] <subcool> sp3ck, yea..
[02:51] <sp3ck> subcool, ok
[02:52] <subcool> 64 bytes from ragana.canonical.com (91.189.91.13): icmp_req=1 ttl=52 time=102 ms
[02:53] <usr13> savagecroc: ls /etc/init.d/ |grep nginx   #Tell us what that says.
[02:53] <Burritoh> herent: I have some advice - Dasher is a nice input IMO, made for people with limited movements of hands and fingers, or coordination thereof
[02:54] <Burritoh> I tried to use it when I had RSI. Apparently you get used to it :P
[02:54] <Burritoh> I didn't have the injury long enough to get used to it
[02:54] <herent> not quite what I need
[02:54] <herent> I'm a web programmer
[02:54] <Burritoh> ah
[02:55] <semitones> Is it safe to interrupt a distribution upgrade?
[02:55] <herent> what's killing me is copy/paste/shiftForCamelCase
[02:55] <sp3ck> subcool, your average ping latency it 's ok
[02:55] <herent> I want to map those to my mouse so my right hand uses them
[02:55] <Burritoh> semitones: depending on the stage it's at, generally no
[02:55] <herent> also, I have a wacom bamboo tablet that I'm trying to figure out how to install
[02:55] <herent> that has 5 buttons and a multitouch interface
[02:55] <herent> but getting it to work doesn't really seem to work
[02:56] <datsmoida> anyone use aws
[02:56] <knoppies> datsmoida, you mean awn as in the avant window navigator?
[02:56] <herent> I tried installing btnx but it doesn't have any options for the tablet and the shortcuts I assign to the mice don't seem to apply
[02:56] <datsmoida> no  amazon cloud servers
[02:56] <demonio> can i change language in thunderbird?
[02:56] <usr13> savagecroc: ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ginx   #Tell us what that says.
[02:57] <subcool> sp3ck, its pretty hit or miss..
[02:57] <bernardo> Hi everybody. Gnea was helping me but I think he's not here anymore. I'm not being able to make nvidia-settings work on my laptop with geforce 650m (optimus). I have installed bumblebee but nvidia-settings will run only with optirun, not detect the other monitor, and get the wrong resolution for my laptop display. Any ideas?
[02:57] <sp3ck> subcool, cat /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/apt/term.log to pastebin
[02:57] <Burritoh> herent: ah.. well, I don't know much about that - and have to go to bed anyway
[02:58] <herent> no worries
[02:58] <Burritoh> hopefully someone else helps :)
[02:58] <usr13> savagecroc: In other words, find the script that starts it, see if there is a start and stop in it, (more than likely there is)(if so, just do):  sudo /etc/init.d/nginx stop
[02:58] <herent> I just want to be able to use the thumb buttons to copy/paste
[02:58] <subcool> sp3ck, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668616
[02:58] <herent> seems really simple, but documentation on how to do it is scarce
[02:58] <agura> I am new to lubuntu and trying to run snort. When it try to run snort with 'snort -v'  I get the following error message: ERROR: Failed to lookup interface: no suitable device found. Please specify one with -i switch
[02:58] <agura> . Any suggestions about what to do next?
[02:58] <sp3ck> subcool, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:59] <sp3ck> subcool, and then same files to pastebin
[02:59] <subcool> sp3ck, it keeps crapping out when loading headers..
[03:00] <savagecroc> usr13: yeah i'm reading through the script.. i get how it works now (i think)
[03:02] <Freeder> is there any reason an nfs share that works behind a NAT cannot be connect to outside of the NAT? port forwarding is correct, but I can't connect... just can't think of why it doesnt work
[03:04] <brightknight> What is this new remote login thing?
[03:05] <subcool> sp3ck, its been sitting: Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[03:05] <subcool> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main python-configobj all 4.7.2+ds-3build1
[03:05] <subcool>   Connection failed ~ for the last 5 mins..
[03:05] <dr_willis> brightknight: a feature that ive not seen do much.... yet. ;-)
[03:06] <dr_willis> brightknight:  depending on which remote login you mean
[03:07]  * PatrickDickey thinks it's almost bedtime...  28 hours is enough for one day. :S
[03:08] <sp3ck> subcool, what is your ubuntu version?
[03:08] <subcool> 12.04.1
[03:09] <brightknight> dr_willis: I imagine its going to be like logging in to a VM
[03:09] <PadNet201> agreed
[03:11] <sp3ck> subcool, other thing now. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change everything from us.archive to it.archive
[03:11] <sp3ck> subcool, then sudo apt-get update again and tell me the results
[03:11] <brightknight> What is the difference between the minor release numbers on 10.04.1 -.4 anyone have the link to release notes?
[03:12] <acer_> hi, i have ubuntu installed from wubi, and i wanted to install tf2 from steam, i have enough hdd space around 14gb on windows, but on wubi its saying i got only 9gb left anyway to make it recognize more space?
[03:13] <acer_> nvm
[03:13] <acer_> i think ill find it myself thx
[03:14] <dr_willis> brightknight: updated all packages to whats latest in the repos is all
[03:14] <dr_willis> acer_: resize your wubi install hd image
[03:15] <agura> I am new to lubuntu and trying to run snort. When I try to run short with ‘snort -v’ I get the following error message: ERROR: Failed to lookup interface: no suitable device found. Please specify one with -i switch. Any suggestions about what to do next?
[03:15] <Cyber_Akuma> Both Ubuntu Unity and Mint Cinnamon are giving me the same issue with my mouse, half the time the GUI just ignores where I am clicking and I an forced to tab-space over the button to click it. Its driving me nuts, sometimes I can't click anything, sometimes only items in a certain window can be clicked and nothing else...
[03:16] <holstein> Cyber_Akuma: compositing?
[03:16] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/256880/how-do-i-resize-an-existing-wubi-installation
[03:16] <subcool> sp3ck, nope- still acting screwy
[03:17] <Cyber_Akuma> holstein: ?
[03:17] <brightknight> And whats the big difference between 10.04.4 alternate and desktop as far as install options?
[03:17] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: I'd say they're like Service Packs, but they happen a lot quicker.
[03:18] <dr_willis> alt cd uses the text based installer and has some extra options for raid and lvm i recall.
[03:18] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: alternate is not a live cd. It's more like the older text-based installers. It's for people who can't get the installer to work using a live cd (or who want a minimal installation).
[03:18] <MK`> I cannot get 12.04.2 to install. It keeps hanging on the "Where are you?" screen
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> MK`: Try testing the media. It might be a bad burn (assuming you're using a physical DVD).
[03:19] <brightknight> PatrickDickey: Do you think this is the best platform for virtualization?
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> MK`: if it is a bad burn, try burning it at the lowest possible speed for your drive.
[03:19] <brightknight> I finally got a CPU with virtual extensions and I want to work with it.
[03:20] <MK`> I'll check it now. I verified the md5sum before burning at least
[03:20] <ga_sk8er> still having my issue. i got the video driver installed  & even got flash player & java installed. it still isnt showing right
[03:20] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: I guess that depends on what you're doing. I use virtualbox right now, but I have used VMWare, and did like VirtualPC and VirtualServer, but they're not Linux compatible.
[03:20] <MK`> What command do I run to check the media, PatrickDickey?
[03:20] <PatrickDickey> MK`: it should be an option, if I remember right, when you boot up.
[03:21] <brightknight> PatrickDickey: so virtualbox is avaliable on Ubuntu?
[03:21] <MK`> yes it is
[03:21] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: yes it is. In fact, I think it's 4.0.x
[03:22] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: And you can download it from virtualbox.org also.
[03:23] <sp3ck> subcool, cat /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/apt/term.log to pastebin
[03:23] <MK`> PatrickDickey: it takes me to the Try Ubuntu / Install Ubuntu screen, I don't see the option to check the disk right here. Do I need to click Try Ubuntu first?
[03:24] <holstein> Cyber_Akuma: are you using compositing?
[03:24] <PatrickDickey> One second, and I'll see if I can find it MK`.
[03:24] <familia_briceno> hola familia
[03:24] <subcool> sp3ck, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668815
[03:25] <subcool> sp3ck, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668822
[03:26] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i'm currently booted into win xp ... am formatting (ntfs) a new 2Tb HD, it's been going for a few hours now, looks like another hour to go ( ~ 4 Hrs Tot ) ... would this have been faster using ubuntu 12.10 ???
[03:27] <dr_willis> you are formating a 2TB internal HD to NTFS? or external HD?
[03:28] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : internal SATA 3 wd Green
[03:28] <sp3ck> subcool, these files dont have an error thought
[03:28] <dr_willis> a Quick format under windows should have had it done in juat a few  minets i imagine.. not 4 hrs.. Ive heard those GREEN hds are slow however.. but dident think they were That slow..
[03:28] <PatrickDickey> MK`: I'm not seeing anything. So, I honestly don't know. Maybe someone else knows how to bring up the options when you boot the live cd?
[03:29] <thomas573> Anyone know the name of the ubuntu servers room?
[03:29] <PatrickDickey> familia_briceno: hola, como estas? Y hablas ingles?
[03:29] <thomas573> #ubuntuservers
[03:29] <holstein> thomas573: you mean, #ubuntu-server ?
[03:29] <brightknight> Does the latest emacs come packaged with Ubuntu?
[03:29] <thomas573> holstein: Thanks
[03:29] <dr_willis> !info emacs
[03:30] <cly> hello, need some help. after i reboot my computer my wifi will not connect. it tells me i need the security password. i can enter the password for hours and it will not connect. the only way i can connect it by clicking on edit connections, and entering the passcode in that window under wireless security. That will log me in. I want it to automaticly log in everytime...and yes, auto connect is checked.
[03:30] <dr_willis> brightknight:  the way ubuntu works - it rarely Comes with the latest of anything.. htere are ppa's for most things if you need the latest
[03:31] <MK`> ah, PatrickDickey apparently you need to press any button when it shows the accessibility icon before it finishes booting
[03:31] <MK`> then the menu will appear
[03:31] <cly> to clear it up a little when i enter the password Ubuntu will not let me hit connect.....
[03:31] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis ... yeah wd green spin about 5400 rpm ... i'm doing complete format to scan surface for defects ... was just wondering if your experience would indicate ubuntu would have been faster ?
[03:31] <MK`> cly, sounds like a small keyring issue, I'm sure someone here can help :)
[03:32] <familia_briceno> no hablo español
[03:32] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  normally i find windows faster with working with NTFS.  but i rarely need to work with NTFS. ;)
[03:32] <PatrickDickey> Interesting. Where'd you find that at MK`? That way I can remember it next time.
[03:32] <cly> MK, i sure hope so.
[03:32] <subcool> sp3ck, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668867 - idk.. lol..
[03:32] <subcool> this is odd
[03:32] <MK`> PatrickDickey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471727
[03:32] <PatrickDickey> familia_briceno: entonces, quieres #ubuntu-es posiblemente.
[03:32] <brightknight> Wow now this is interesting my guest account came to the screensaver and has a password lock, anyone know what the default password for Guest is?
[03:33] <subcool> sp3ck, here.. i really dont know what to say or do.. : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668874
[03:33] <PatrickDickey> Thanks MK`.
[03:34] <linuslacie6> hi I got  a problem I just install ubuntu 12.04 but when I restart I got a black screen and nothing load
[03:34] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: did you try just hitting enter? otherwise you'll probably want to log in as your admin, if possible, and either disable or reset the password on the Guest.
[03:34] <MK`> brightknight, if it's not blank, try 'ubuntu' also
[03:34] <angs> how can I see if I have armel or armhf processor?
[03:34] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : lol ... you're a smart man, tis why i directed question to you ... NTFS :-( ... needed it that way though ... THANKS for the reply :-)
[03:35] <bkfitz> Anyone know how to gracefully shutdown a Virtualbox VM instance when I shutdown my Ubuntu OS... it basically forces me to manually shut down the guest OS, then go back and repeat the shutdown on Ubuntu... my goal is to change the Ubunt shutdown process to shutdown any guest OS's before performing the rest of the shutdown process
[03:35] <usr13> angs: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:35] <PatrickDickey> bkfitz: You might want to ask that in #virtualbox instead. They'll probably show you how to create a script or cron job for it.
[03:36] <PatrickDickey> bkfitz: sorry that's #vbox not #virtualbox (although you might get help there too).
[03:37] <brightknight> PatrickDickey: guest creates users on the fly i suppose its showing guest-xxxxxx where the x's are seemingly random carachters not sure how to disable the password while it is locked.
[03:39] <semitones> I'm getting steam for linux! dream come true lololol
[03:39] <semitones> and netflix works on linux as well!
[03:39] <semitones> whooo
[03:39] <theslow1> Anyone here familiar with AWS?
[03:39] <linuslacie6> so please it have a way to see why I got the black screen after an fresh install
[03:39] <dr_willis> sort of works....
[03:39]  * PadNet_201 applauds in happiness
[03:40] <sp3ck> subcool, weird...still thinking..
[03:41] <PatrickDickey> brightknight: this doesn't help with the password, but it explains what's going on http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3740
[03:41] <usr13> !nomodeset | linuslacie6
[03:41] <jesse3mail> Does anybody here know how to fix a problem where "resume: libgcrypt version 1.5.0" shows during boot and hangs for like 20 seconds before continuing to boot. Didn't find any solutions Googling around...
[03:42] <PadNet_201> what kind of hardware and os?
[03:43] <MK`> PatrickDickey: the disk checked out. When I click "Continue" from "Where are you?", the installer's command line spits out "error: cannot seek '/dev/sdb'" and "gnome-probe: error: cannot seek '/dev/sdb'". sdb is my windos hd; I am installing ubuntu on sda.
[03:43] <jesse3mail> Samsung Series 5 NP550P5C-T01US & Ubuntu 12.10
[03:43] <iknojailfu> guys i got into very bad situation with luks-encrypted instance, after reboot suddenly i ended up with similar to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/37
[03:43] <subcool> sp3ck, its ok, i am too. im confused as hell.
[03:44] <Brainiac> To download the leatest ATI driver with wget, what is the commad? sudo wget -c link ??
[03:44] <PatrickDickey> MK`:  did you try updating the installer before you started? I'd do the Try Ubuntu option and get all of the updates first.
[03:44] <MK`> I guess I'll try that next.
[03:45] <linuslacie6> ok but how to resolve this from live cd?
[03:45] <Brainiac> Anybody is already using the ATI 13.2 Beta driver?
[03:45] <iknojailfu> i also discovered a bug with hdmi external monitor refresh rate which currently kills my eyes
[03:46] <Brainiac> To download the leatest ATI beta driver with wget, what is the commad? sudo wget -c link ??
[03:46] <PatrickDickey> Brainiac: you shouldn't need sudo. Which video card do you have?
[03:46] <PadNet_201> jesse3mail: any recent upgrades?
[03:47] <PatrickDickey> Brainiac: I haven't installed it on here yet. It borked my Fedora installation though (although it's not "supported" there).
[03:47] <usr13> linuslacie6: What is your native language?
[03:47] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: AMD 3500 with APU Radeon 6620G --
[03:48] <jesse3mail> No, not that I can think of. It's been like this work awhile now so I'm not really sure around when it started either.
[03:48] <PadNet_201> I see, not entirely sure
[03:49] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: Ok, Without sudo, so is it right: wget -c link?
[03:49] <linuslacie6> usr13 french why
[03:49] <iknojailfu> guys, you are my last chance, anyone?
[03:49] <usr13> Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join  #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci
[03:49] <PatrickDickey> I think so, or just wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.2-beta3-linux-x86.x86_64.zip maybe (I think that's your driver, but you'll want to go to support.amd.com and make sure).
[03:50] <jesse3mail> Any idea as to what it could be related to? After some searching I read uswsusp has something to do with it but am not entirely sure what that is.
[03:50] <linuslacie6> but I'm ok in english french channel sleep
[03:50] <usr13> !nomodeset | linuslacie6
[03:50] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: I am a little insecure, I really don't want broke my system.. And - YES - this is the correct driver..
[03:51] <linuslacie6> but theres no instruction to resolve in livecd I have to reinstall and choose acpi_osi=   ???
[03:51] <PatrickDickey> Brainiac, it's supported on Ubuntu. Just not on Fedora. That's why I borked my system. And in truth, it wasn't too bad. I loaded it up in single user mode, and uninstalled the driver.
[03:52] <PatrickDickey> linuslacie6: when you see the little accessibility icon at the bottom, press a key. That might bring up the menu, where you can hit F6 and choose nomodeset.
[03:53] <sp3ck> subcool, sudo apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::http=true > ~/debug.txt   and pastebin
[03:53] <iknofailfu> guys i got into very bad situation with luks-encrypted instance, after reboot suddenly i ended up with similar to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/37 anyone?
[03:53] <linuslacie6> ya but I dont understand how is suppose to resolve my problem I had to reinstall or theres a way to fix it in livecd???
[03:53] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: I will install the driver. If broke, is possible and easy fix.. Very thank you!
[03:54] <PatrickDickey> Brainiac: No problem. Good luck with it. I'll be doing it either later or tomorrow.
[03:56] <subcool> sp3ck, thanks.. i am waiting on it now..
[03:56] <liquidmetal> I'm looking for an image-viewer - it needs to display the pixel coordinates (as I move the mouse) - and maybe some basic operations like crop/resize/etc. Any suggestions? (It doesn't need to have a gallery)
[03:57] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: Ok.. ;)
[03:57] <MK`> still the same issue PatrickDickey. I'm beginning to think this is an issue with grub.
[03:57] <PatrickDickey> Actually Brainiac, I'm doing it right now.
[03:58] <PatrickDickey> MK`: If it's happening in the installer, then it's not Grub. I'd say download the alternative disc, and try that one.
[03:58] <MK`> alright..
[03:58] <Black_Daemon> Hi, I have a question about the include file /usr/include/linux/fs.h
[03:58] <PatrickDickey> And remember to burn it at the slowest speed you can, just to be safe.
[03:58] <MK`> I really doubt that matters these days X)
[03:58] <Black_Daemon> for some reason it did a #undef NR_OPEN, but didn't redefine it. I was wondering if anyone knew why that was?
[03:59] <Black_Daemon> I changed it so that it redefined it as I found another instance of it on the web redefine it (#define NR_OPEN (1024*1024)	/* Absolute upper limit on fd num */) but I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this file on ubuntu
[03:59] <Tex_Nick> liquidmetal : hey many people shy away from gimp because it seems intimidating ... it's just not that hard to learn ... the basics are pretty simple ... might roll your sleeves up and jump into it ... you'll never regret it :-)
[04:00] <cfhowlett> liquidmetal, there are dozens of simple gimp tutorials online.  choose one, have fun ...
[04:00]  * PatrickDickey shies away from all image editing programs...
[04:00] <liquidmetal> Tex_Nick: Yup - but I already know gimp :) I just want to view images (and the locations of certain things)
[04:00] <iknofailfu> guys i got into very bad situation with luks-encrypted instance, after reboot suddenly i ended up with similar to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/37 anyone?
[04:00] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: Your device is similar to mine?
[04:01] <PatrickDickey> Brainiac: nope. I've got a desktop, Radeon HD 5450 card.
[04:02] <ubuntunoob> hello my sudo apt-get install is not functioning here what it says: E:Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavalible) E: unable to lock the administraion directory (/varlib/dpkg/), os another process using it? so guys anyone know the problem?
[04:02] <iknofailfu> i can't mount it, not raid, no lvm and i'm 99% sure it is alive
[04:02] <ubuntunoob> is not os*
[04:03] <PadNet_201> yea another app is using it most likely, use top check your processes
[04:03] <ubuntunoob> Padnet_201: who are you talking to
[04:03] <silviu_dimulete> hello ubuntunoob the problem is that some other software already has the administration rights... if you cannot find the process that has you locked out... just reboot and try again.. it should work
[04:04] <PadNet_201> ubuntunoob, you
[04:04] <ubuntunoob> oh thank you guys! appreciated your help!
[04:05] <plutonas> i have installed a program through this app store of ubuntu. I can run it from the command line but not when i press this ubuntu badge and search for apps
[04:05] <plutonas> how can i change that?
[04:05] <bernardo> Hi guys, I'm having a problem with dual monitor
[04:05] <plutonas> and why does this happen in the first place?
[04:05] <bernardo> dual screen
[04:05] <bernardo> Can anyone give me a hand?
[04:05] <iknofailfu> i would never ever donate lol
[04:05] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: I have a HP notebook with aspects that mentioned above.
[04:05] <roothorick> okay, I want to know what the heck just happened... gdm says too many X failures... I have Xorg.0.log, Xorg.1.log.... all the way up to Xorg.5.log
[04:05] <silviu_dimulete> ubuntunoob look for System Update or Synaptics or... Software Center... one of those should have the administration rights
[04:06] <roothorick> the first two show a perfectly normal startup suspiciously followed immediately by a perfectly normal shutdown
[04:06] <ubuntunoob> does apps downloading from ubuntu store conflict with sudo apt-get install?
[04:06] <roothorick> 2, 3, and 4 suggest that nouveau couldn't communicate with the kernel
[04:06] <yourimym1> hello community
[04:06] <roothorick> 5 has a backtrace(!)
[04:06] <plutonas> is this a question only channel?
[04:06] <silviu_dimulete> ubuntunoob: no they are the same thing.. apt-get install or from software center... the same stuff, different aproach
[04:07] <ubuntunoob> so what you are saying is that i can download multiple things at once?
[04:07] <yourimym1> does anyone know how to get KDE plasma inside ubuntu 12.10
[04:07] <computerex> yourimym1 - install KDE desktop environment
[04:08] <dariushall21> Hey guys, I have a question. I just recently upgraded to 12.10 desktop on my server machine, Unity wasn't starting up, so I tried to manually open it through Terminal, and it says my hardware is not supported. What could be causing that?
[04:08] <iknofailfu> guys i got into very bad situation with luks-encrypted instance, after reboot suddenly i ended up with similar to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/37 can't mount it, not raid, no lvm, worked flawlessly
[04:08] <bernardo> Gnea was helping me but I think he's not here anymore. I'm not being able to make nvidia-settings work on my laptop with geforce 650m (optimus). I have installed bumblebee but nvidia-settings will run only with optirun, not detect the other monitor, and get the wrong resolution for my laptop display. Any ideas?
[04:08] <silviu_dimulete> ubuntunoob: of course, cli: sudo apt-get install prog1 prog2 prog3 or... click multiple installs in the Software Center
[04:08] <ubuntunoob> silviu_dimulet\
[04:08] <sp3ck> subcool, nothing yet?
[04:08] <yourimym1> computerex: i just want kde plasma not other kde
[04:08] <silviu_dimulete> ?
[04:09] <ubuntunoob> hmm can you download from the store and terminal at the same time silviu_dimulete?
[04:09] <silviu_dimulete> dariushall21: check your Xorg cfg.. or your video drivers...
[04:09] <ga_sk8er> i guess after the game is done downloading, i  switch video cards & see if i can get my video card driver to take on this pc
[04:09] <dariushall21> Silviu, how would I do that without Unity?
[04:09] <silviu_dimulete> ubuntunoob: no.. only one at a time.. or cli or software center
[04:10] <subcool> sp3ck, still waiting..
[04:10] <liquidmetal> Tex_Nick, cfhowlett: gqview - found it!
[04:10] <silviu_dimulete> dariushall21: use the terminal... or MC (midnight commander)
[04:10] <yourimym1> i dont want minimal kde and light one , i want kde plasma the full one only
[04:10] <roothorick> restart gdm, and everything is back to business as usual.... so bizarre. Could goofy X behavior be caused by a way too new kernel for the distro version?
[04:10] <Gerowen> Does anybody know if you can insert an image in an ubuntu wiki page?  I've attached a screenshot, but would like to insert it into the Wiki page instead of linking to it.
[04:10] <ubuntunoob> hm my ubuntu app store is downloading gnome, is it supposed to take a long time?
[04:10] <sp3ck> subcool, what the foo man..
[04:10] <subcool> sp3ck, looks like im on 10.02
[04:10] <subcool> sp3ck, thats what im saying.. this is out of no where.
[04:10] <silviu_dimulete> ubuntunoob: yes.. gnome will take some time...
[04:11] <cfhowlett> ubuntunoob, how would we know?  depends on your isp speed
[04:11] <roothorick> wtf. why is gnome suddenly in CHINESE!?
[04:11] <computerex> yourimym1 - http://askubuntu.com/questions/26033/can-i-use-kde-plasma-widgets-in-gnome
[04:11] <ubuntunoob> Dammit wish i could cancel it
[04:11] <iknofailfu> guys i got into very bad situation with luks-encrypted instance, after reboot suddenly i ended up with similar to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/37 can't mount it, not raid, no lvm, worked flawlessly
[04:11] <ga_sk8er> ubuntunoob...u can do a hard reboot of the pc & ur out of it
[04:12] <ubuntunoob> oh okay thanks ga_sk8er
[04:15] <dariushall21> What could have caused Unity to randomly not work? It used to work perfectly, nothing on the machine itself has changed at all.
[04:15] <dr_willis> clarify whats not working
[04:15] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: see this link: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/news/amd-catalyst-13-2-beta-3-driver-up-to-300-performance/ - I am follow the instructions..
[04:16] <dariushall21> Dr_willis, me?
[04:16] <dr_willis> and ive seen user settings cause issues.   If a newly made user works.. then try cleaning out the problem users compiz and unity settings
[04:16] <blake> hello. i have a sony vaio vpcf236fm. im having trouble trying to disable the keyboard backlight. ive searched everywere for an answer and i still cant find a solution
[04:17] <dariushall21> Update: I just booted to a Live USB for 12.04 and Unity did open.
[04:17] <skyler> Blake, iirc it's controlled by the bios
[04:17] <skyler> I had an older model vaio and it was all controlled by the hardware
[04:18] <skyler> does anyone have any idea how to upgrade from 6.06? I am having major issues
[04:18] <blake> ive checked my bios settings. and it doesnt seem to be an option to disable it from their
[04:18] <kostkon_> !eol | skyler
[04:18] <dr_willis> skyler:   Upgrade from 6.06 to what? It may be a better idea to do a clean install
[04:19] <skyler> Kostkon_, I have tried the guide on there, and It came up with nothing really
[04:19] <cfhowlett> skyler, 6.06?  wow.
[04:19] <cfhowlett> skyler, download 12.04 ...
[04:19] <skyler> dr_willis, I have no disc drive, so how would I go about that?
[04:19] <Brainiac> My fourth cpu is in 100%...
[04:19] <skyler> cfhowlett, I'm trying to get on 10.04
[04:19] <yourimym1> hey
[04:19] <yourimym1> does sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop plasma-scriptengine-python is not recommended , for my hardware ,
[04:19] <skyler> This is nearly legacy hardware I'm working on
[04:20] <kostkon_> skyler, even 10.04 will become eol soon
[04:20] <cfhowlett> skyler, why 10.04?  also end of life next month ... xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for legacy hardware
[04:20] <dr_willis> skyler:  boot from a live usb..
[04:21] <cfhowlett> skyler, recommend you get 12.04 ubuntu or xubuntu.  if your hardware can boot USB, you're set.  if not there are some other options.
[04:21] <dr_willis> for very old hardware that dosent have PAE.. 12.04 will be as high as you can go.
[04:21] <KxTwo> ok guys on older ubuntus I used to be able to graphically ssh into a remote server.  HOw do I do that now?
[04:21] <skyler> it's a thinkpad t40, I think it can only boot from IBM USB drives
[04:21] <cfhowlett> skyler, but you'll have 5 years before 12.04 reaches end of life.
[04:21] <dr_willis> Lubuntu 12.04 - would be a decent choice for older hardware
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !pxe|skyler,
[04:21] <skyler> Lubuntu uses what as the WM?
[04:22] <yourimym1> does sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop plasma-scriptengine-python is not recommended , for my hardware  what is command to pastepin my hardware ?
[04:22] <Brainiac> PatrickDickey: Still online?
[04:22] <subcool> sp3ck, still waiting- :/ - i really wish i knew why its acting so weirdout of no where.
[04:22] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[04:22] <skyler> Does Awesome! work well with LXDE?
[04:22] <dr_willis> awsome is its own window manager...
[04:22] <skyler> But not its own DE
[04:22] <KxTwo> anyone?
[04:22] <skyler> WM!=DE
[04:23] <skyler> Awesome with gnome is pretty great
[04:23] <yourimym1> ubuntu yes
[04:23] <sp3ck> subcool, break it and pastebin the output
[04:23]  * dr_willis finds awsome not so awsome..
[04:23] <sp3ck> subcool, whatevah output
[04:23] <ech0pl3x> Never used awesome, but I heard it was ya know...pretty awesome!
[04:23]  * skyler likes it better than floating window managers
[04:23] <ech0pl3x> It looks very cool, that and Xmonad looks nice aswell.
[04:23] <skyler> Xmonad is too haskell-y for me
[04:23] <skyler> lol
[04:24] <ech0pl3x> haha, don't you pretty much have to learn the lanugage to use Xmonad?
[04:24] <Brainiac> dr_willis, KDE is awsome!
[04:24] <ech0pl3x> I heard alot of the configurations was Haskell based
[04:24] <skyler> So my only real option is to clean install? and yeah pretty much
[04:24] <skyler> KDE is the devil
[04:24] <dr_willis> the latest KDE release  - seems to work decently well.
[04:24] <skyler> all of the config is haskell
[04:24] <ech0pl3x> haha Not a big QTbase fan which is why I stick to gnome! Or Xfce4
[04:24] <skyler> it's pure haskell all the way down
[04:24] <ech0pl3x> that's crazy
[04:25] <subcool> sp3ck, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669058
[04:25] <dr_willis> Upgradeing a 6 yr old OS..  is going to take a lot of time. You could do a clean install in a lot less time i imagine
[04:25] <skyler> functional programming, man
[04:25] <Brainiac> Can I install KDE in 12.04??
[04:25] <dr_willis> Brainiac:  yes
[04:25] <KxTwo> Ok is it a unity thing that I cant "connect to server" I used to be able to do it with gnome?
[04:25] <dr_willis> its in the repos
[04:25] <ech0pl3x> yup all the major DM(Desktop Enviroments) should be in there.
[04:25] <skyler> can I install it without any install media? like mount an iso and update like that?
[04:25] <yourimym1> is conky and screenlets make system slower ?
[04:25] <dr_willis> connect to server.. is a feature of nautilus -
[04:26] <ech0pl3x> its a system monitor
[04:26] <ech0pl3x> it shows you information about your system in real time.
[04:26] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  if you run lots of them.. they could.. but conky is fairly light.
[04:26] <skyler> Ubuntu updates too often, man.
[04:26] <yourimym1> thx :) dr
[04:26] <Brainiac> dr_willis, sudo apt-get install kde -- the newest will be installed?
[04:26] <ech0pl3x> ahh I misread that one post... lol
[04:26] <dr_willis> skyler:  theres others in here that would say just the opposite.
[04:26] <dr_willis> !kde | Brainiac
[04:26] <ech0pl3x> but yes conky doesn't use much resources.
[04:26] <skyler> Debian4lyfe
[04:27] <dr_willis> Brainiac:  the 'newest' has a PPA - it was just released like 3 weeks ago.
[04:27] <skyler> wow 6.06 is already 6 years old?
[04:27] <ech0pl3x> I've always wanted to experiment with tiling window managers, but I'm not sure how long the transition would be.
[04:27] <dr_willis> version # is the date of release.. so yes
[04:27] <dr_willis> 12.04 = 2012 4th month
[04:27] <skyler> it's a really fast transition if you mainly work in console stuff ech0pl3x
[04:27] <yourimym1> is using kde plasma okay ?
[04:27] <ech0pl3x> yeah true true
[04:27] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  KDE works decently well.
[04:28] <dr_willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <skyler> so is 13.04 about to come out?
[04:28] <ech0pl3x> I try to do everything from terminal. I think you'll learn better that way.
[04:28] <dr_willis> skyler:  4th month of 2013 - yes
[04:28] <sSs> on the 4th month of 2013
[04:28] <skyler> !info crawl
[04:28] <ech0pl3x> 13.04=remove Unity by default :P
[04:28] <skyler> thank god
[04:28] <dr_willis> Hmm
[04:28] <skyler> Unity is terribad for anything but netbooks
[04:28] <dr_willis> Unity has not been removed.
[04:28] <kostkon_> ech0pl3x, ?
[04:28] <skyler> aww
[04:28] <dr_willis> and it works very well on my desktop
[04:29] <skyler> It's a bad UX
[04:29] <ech0pl3x> kostkon what's up? lol
[04:29] <dr_willis> since you are  using a 6 yr old install.. i dont put much weight on your opinion of unity.
[04:29] <sSs> whats the default DM then?
[04:29] <skyler> it tries to mimic macOS and windows ant the same time
[04:29] <kostkon_> ech0pl3x, nvm
[04:29] <ech0pl3x> lol
[04:29] <dr_willis> 13.04 has some neat new features for unity also.
[04:29] <skyler> This is for an old laptop, I run 12.10 on my desktop, and it's terrible
[04:29] <dr_willis> LightDM is the default in Ubuntu for the last few releases
[04:29] <sSs> neato. whats the default dm
[04:29] <ech0pl3x> blehhh, I like my traditional basic menu
[04:30] <ech0pl3x> they try to make easy...*too easy* and ruin it
[04:30] <hydrox24> skyler: Please keep that sort of discussion out of this forum. It's silly and just opinion based.
[04:30] <dr_willis> Theres classic style indicator applets youi can get for Unity
[04:30] <yourimym1> i use unity , if i changed it to kde plasma , is it will be faster , ?
[04:30] <sSs> yes
[04:30] <skyler> yourimyml yes
[04:30] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  hard to tell.. try it and see. if  you want fastest.. use lubuntu
[04:30] <sSs> kde is not a lightweight dm but for some reason its really fast
[04:30] <hydrox24> yourimym1: not necasserily, try a lighter variant like XFCE or LXDE instead, they're sure to be faster.
[04:31] <yourimym1> i want cool interface also
[04:31] <ech0pl3x> I run Xubuntu..runs good so far.
[04:31] <hydrox24> *necessary
[04:31] <sSs> ubuntu studio > xubuntu
[04:31] <skyler> So there's no real way to upgrade without either a usb drive or a cd?
[04:31] <dr_willis> skyler:  you can do release upgrades.. but that will take hours and hours i imagine.. and may fail.
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> skyler : if you could round up about $200 ... you could upgrade your pc to would run the latest greatest ubuntu :-)
[04:31] <ech0pl3x> There are derivitives of Ubuntu such as LinuxMint/Pingguy OS and few others, some of which use the Cinnamon DE. Looks pretty nice.
[04:31] <dr_willis> the !EOL guiodes tell how
[04:32] <sSs> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:32] <subcool> sp3ck, the output says basically nothing...
[04:32] <yourimym1> i didne like xfce and things like , but hopeing to get the best kde only without installing kde default or minimum
[04:32] <skyler> Tex_Nick, good luck getting one with as good build quality for that price.
[04:32] <hydrox24> Also, please don't complain about 12.10 or 13.04, they're no LTE releases and as such should not be used if your going to complain about the stability or even the UI (beyond constructive criticism on the dev mailing list or whatever).
[04:32] <Brainiac> I want the most hard desktop environment..
[04:32] <dr_willis> dist-upgrade does NOT upgrade to the next release.
[04:32] <sp3ck> subcool, yeap...
[04:32] <ech0pl3x> hard, like hard to configure?
[04:32] <sp3ck> subcool, and it's difficult to fine anything on google...
[04:32] <sp3ck> subcool, find**
[04:33] <skyler> Could I for example download the 10.04 LTS and mount it and upgrade like that?
[04:33] <subcool> sp3ck, haha- trust me- im an google idiot.
[04:33] <Brainiac> What is the most hard environment?
[04:33] <yourimym1> so does sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop plasma-scriptengine-python is not recommended , for my hardware  ?
[04:33] <subcool> its got to be something outside of the sources..
[04:33] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  install the kubuntu-desktop package for the full kde experience.
[04:34] <subcool> sp3ck, i just click update again, and it sits.. its like the apt- is broken or something.
[04:34] <ech0pl3x> Depends what your looking for Braniac? Tiling window manager or Desktop enviroment. I think its all subjective
[04:34] <Tex_Nick> skyler : keyword there was upgrade ... same case, hd, cd/dvd, power supply ... just upgrage MoBo, CPU & RAM ;-)
[04:34] <ech0pl3x> but Xmonad requires Haskell Knowledge,and without it seems to make it hard, so that might be pretty tough.
[04:34] <silverone> Hello! i'm about to install ubuntu 12.10 on my mbp. I have an ssd and only 128gb available, i might need to recize my ubuntu partition. Does ubuntu support resizing with encryted disks ?
[04:34] <yourimym1> i want only the highst one
[04:34] <Ackis> is it normal to have memtest as a boot option on a new Ubuntu install? (12.10)
[04:34] <skyler> Tex_Nick : It's a laptop.
[04:34] <subcool> sp3ck, im going to reboot again. :/ this is too odd.
[04:34] <sSs> YES
[04:34] <ech0pl3x> yes
[04:34] <demonio> hi all how can i change language in thunderbird
[04:35] <Gerowen> Ackis: yes, that is normal if you install memtest
[04:35] <yourimym1> dr willis; i mean the best kde i want with plasma
[04:35] <sp3ck> subcool, ok
[04:35] <skyler> Tex_Nick: and upgrading my hdd to a sdd is on my list
[04:35] <ech0pl3x> so much chat going on its hard to keep up ;)
[04:35] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  your terms are vague and confused.. KDE uses plasma.. if you wan tto try out KDE. then install the Kubuntu-desktop package.
[04:35] <skyler> I have better things to spend money on though
[04:35] <sSs> what is the easiest simplest way for a newb to mount an ISO?
[04:35] <dr_willis> !iso
[04:35] <Tex_Nick> skyler : sorry man ...
[04:36] <dr_willis>  sudo mount -o loop the.iso  make-a-directory-first
[04:36] <sSs> yeah thats not gonna work for a moron who falls for the "you;ve won!" ads
[04:36] <calwig> Hi, how are keylogging mechanisms working on Ubuntu? Are they being implemented heavily?
[04:36] <Lisandra_brave> enjoying all the new people having trouble with ubuntu because of steam?
[04:36] <demonio> hey
[04:37] <dr_willis> Lisandra_brave:  havent really noticed that many.
[04:37] <Lisandra_brave> huh
[04:37] <skyler> Oh god they took steam for linux out of beta?
[04:37] <ech0pl3x> I installed Steam on a test install of Ubuntu on vmware player, and I had it load properly no issues there, but when it loaded my library all my baught games were gone.
[04:37] <ech0pl3x> Not sure if that is normal or not.
[04:37] <Lisandra_brave> they arent gone
[04:37] <penguinman> no, just giving free tf2 items if you log in under linux
[04:37] <Lisandra_brave> it only displays the linux compatable ones
[04:37] <dr_willis> seen perhaps 2 people this week fihting with steam just so they can get that Penguin in TF2.. then they  got it.. and deleted ubuntu... go figure.
[04:37] <ech0pl3x> Ahh! makes sense
[04:38] <Lisandra_brave> i've been off and on with ubuntu
[04:38] <dr_willis> Steam for linux has a menu item to show all games, or just the linux ones.
[04:38] <ech0pl3x> I think my favorite is Arch.
[04:38] <Lisandra_brave> when i get my new computer its gonna be primarily linux
[04:38] <ech0pl3x> all games
[04:38] <skyler> I think I might just do a clean install of debian etch on this thing and be done with it
[04:38]  * dr_willis got his TF2 Penguin a while ago. :)
[04:38] <Lisandra_brave> i'm thinking maybe fedora or debian
[04:38] <penguinman> i need to log in to tf2 methinks.
[04:39] <skyler> I sold my unusual to buy this laptop lolol
[04:39] <ech0pl3x> Debian if your looking for a more easier route IMO
[04:39] <Lisandra_brave> i installed it on a new computer just for the tux
[04:39] <skyler> I refuse to use fedora
[04:39] <Lisandra_brave> and then messed around with KDE widgets for a few hours
[04:39] <Tex_Nick> TF2 Penguin ^5
[04:39] <darkhelmet46> JOIN #EVOLUTION
[04:39] <darkhelmet46> oops
[04:39] <ech0pl3x> Fedora is nice, but as far as using it...I'll use CentoOS to practice for RHCE certs
[04:39] <Lisandra_brave>  /join
[04:40] <penguinman> i still want to see distro specific hats. that way we could have ACTUAL distro wars lol
[04:40] <subcool> sp3ck, if you could see the output, it says 0% [waiting for headers]  [waiting for headers]  [waiting for headers]  [waiting for headers]
[04:40] <Lisandra_brave> getting a redhat?
[04:40] <skyler> could I use 10.04 install media to upgrade from 6.06?
[04:40] <ech0pl3x> Not sure
[04:41] <ech0pl3x> I think it would have to be wiped then installed.
[04:41] <penguinman> skyler, upgrading from 6.06 i'd say just back up the home folder and reinstall from scratch
[04:41] <subcool> sp3ck, it gets stuck- then... tries to move on?
[04:41] <skyler> I don't have a CD and I can't install from USB
[04:41] <dr_willis> skyler:  try it and see.. but i  imagine you wont want to stick with 10.04 either.
[04:41] <Ten-Eight> skyler: I do believe you would have to do a clean install.
[04:41] <skyler> I don't know what I'm gonna do
[04:41] <Lisandra_brave> if you do get distro specific hats
[04:41] <dr_willis> 6.06  may not support that iso upgrade feature.
[04:41] <atrius> you guys see cases where running dpkg-reconfigure ldap-auth-config goes through the dialog but then doesn't actually save anything?
[04:42] <atrius> as in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf is unchanged
[04:42] <Lisandra_brave> i wanna see all the hipsters trip over themselves trying to figure out fedora
[04:42] <Lisandra_brave> just to find out its not the same hat
[04:42] <sp3ck> subcool, from the last output you send me i get only ignores and errors nothing else
[04:42] <skyler> But you can already get like 5 different fedoras in that game
[04:42] <ech0pl3x> woohoo hipsters!
[04:42] <dr_willis> install to a 8gb usb flash on a differnt pc.. plug it into the laptop... dd the usb onto the HD of the laptop... reboot.. ;) then resize..
[04:43] <yourimym1> i've installed this but can't find it anywhere https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/conky/
[04:43] <skyler> can I do that while it's mounted?
[04:43] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  it dosent have an icon.
[04:43] <subcool> sp3ck, yeah, thats what i see too- but.. it hangs and freezes.. there is a lot of visual text crap it says...
[04:43] <ech0pl3x> open a terminal and type "conky"
[04:43] <yourimym1> where can i activate it ?
[04:43] <dr_willis> skyler:  i have.. but its a weird hardcore way to do it
[04:43] <skyler> why don't I just mount an ISO, then dd that? is that possible?
[04:43] <yourimym1> ok
[04:43] <ech0pl3x> it should start up on the left side of the screen.
[04:43] <dr_willis> for conky - you WILL want to read up on the conky docs and homepage..
[04:44] <dr_willis> its about the most configurable  system monitor/widget ive ever seen
[04:44] <subcool> sp3ck, whats weird.. is the hang. it hangs for ever on each header. its trying to act like its a server issue.. but- i know its my system.
[04:44] <ech0pl3x> yeah, there's ALOT to configure in conky..but you can always be quick and grab someone elses config. Just chances the config appropiately to your setup.
[04:44] <dr_willis> skyler:  dding an iso will give you an Live-cd.. not a normal install..
[04:44] <dr_willis> skyler:  unless you want to then install from it to the rest of the HD
[04:44] <yourimym1> where is that docs , and how can i enable it by default to open after my system start
[04:44] <skyler> oh yeah
[04:44] <darkhelmet46> Can anyone here give me a hand with Evolution MAPI plugin?  The Evolution channel is a ghost town.
[04:44] <skyler> this is so dumb
[04:44] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  conky homepage... and its faq detail that
[04:45] <dr_willis> skyler:  as of 11.10+ i think you can dd the iso file to a HD and it should boot.. i know it works with 12.10   to usb..
[04:45] <sp3ck> subcool, lets think ofb  ... how much space do you have left on the machine? (df -h)
[04:45] <dr_willis> 10.04 - may not support that feature
[04:46] <datruth> i'm trying to run oident amd unable to spoof idents does anyone know of an alternative?
[04:46] <skyler> I don't really want to use 12.04... but 10.04 has to EOL soon
[04:46] <skyler> dang
[04:46] <dr_willis> and 13.04 will be released soon.
[04:47] <skyler> My hardware might handle it
[04:47] <skyler> I dunno
[04:47] <dingoateyourbaby> ok where's the drama, The_prospector
[04:47] <The_prospector> I came here to watch the drama
[04:47] <dingoateyourbaby> I came to see the drama
[04:47] <dingoateyourbaby> skyler: are you providing drama
[04:47] <dingoateyourbaby> ?
[04:48] <skyler> There isn't really any drama
[04:48] <dingoateyourbaby> ok
[04:48] <skyler> I said unity sucks a while back, but I wasn't dramatic about it
[04:48] <darkhelmet46> Can anyone give me a hand with the Exchange MAPI plugin for Evolution?
[04:49] <sp3ck> subcool, browse http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:49] <The_prospector> I was expecting a metric ton of steam users on here complaining about how linux sucks.
[04:49] <dr_willis> skyler:  if your CPU does not support PAE then 12.04 will be as high asyou can go
[04:49] <The_prospector> guess I better go back to my hole in whore island.
[04:49] <skyler> PAE?
[04:49] <dr_willis> The_prospector:  None that ive seen...
[04:49] <dr_willis> !pae
[04:50] <darkhelmet46> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[04:50] <Lisandra_brave> The_prospector, i was expecting that too
[04:50] <ech0pl3x> beat me to it haha.
[04:50] <skyler> So would a pentium M support that?
[04:50] <dingoateyourbaby> skyler: nope
[04:50] <skyler> oh damn
[04:50] <dingoateyourbaby> I already had that discussion
[04:50] <dr_willis> No PAE = you stop at 12.04
[04:50] <dingoateyourbaby> where my people
[04:51] <J11_1> what do I do to to keep the log files from filling up my machine?
[04:51] <dingoateyourbaby> Flannel: hey babe
[04:51] <skyler> to debian I go, I guess
[04:51] <dr_willis> J11_1:  you could set logrotate to clean them out more.. or have them all go to /dev/null
[04:51] <Lisandra_brave> i guess if you know how to IRC, or enough to bother with it, you're probably savvy enough to install ubunut at least
[04:51] <dingoateyourbaby> I don't see escott
[04:51] <dingoateyourbaby> Ben64: sup love
[04:51] <Ben64> dingoateyourbaby: stop highlighting random people
[04:52] <dingoateyourbaby> Ben64: random?
[04:52] <dingoateyourbaby> we're buddies
[04:52] <dingoateyourbaby> http://sprunge.us/LJhA Ben64 remember when?
[04:52] <dingoateyourbaby> good times
[04:52] <skyler> okay so hypothetically, let's say I have an iso
[04:52] <skyler> could I just mount it then dd that shit to a flash drive?
[04:52] <skyler> to make a bootable usb
[04:52] <dingoateyourbaby> why would you mount it
[04:53] <dingoateyourbaby> just dd the iso to the flash drive
[04:53] <dr_willis> you dont mount it.. you just dd it to usb. to make a bootable usb
[04:53] <theslow1> skyler: if you have an ISO, and you are on linux
[04:53] <dr_willis> for  the newer releases of ubuntu..
[04:53] <subcool> sp3ck, yeah, i can go there. but i think its something else. I am trying to install google chrome, and it says i "cannot satisfy dependencies". This is acting WEIRD
[04:53] <Flannel> dingoateyourbaby: Please stop.  Thanks.
[04:53] <theslow1> and want to make a bootable thumdrive
[04:53] <subcool> sp3ck, i tihnk i have a virus..
[04:53] <dr_willis> 10.04 may NOT work with the dd trick
[04:53] <The_prospector> my bios can boot from a raw iso file.
[04:53] <dingoateyourbaby> The_prospector: I came for drama, but people who used to love me, now hate me. I'm out.
[04:54] <skyler> how do I into bootable usb then?
[04:54] <The_prospector> LLF it then partition it as FAT
[04:54] <dr_willis> skyler:  get a 12.04 iso.. dd it to usb.. done..
[04:54] <spacecase> should powertop be running in the background or did it just get left open when I was actively using it?
[04:54] <Ben64> dr_willis: you sure that works?
[04:54] <skyler> that's literally all I need to do?
[04:54] <skyler> okay
[04:54] <subcool> sp3ck, pm me- im bounching around.
[04:54] <The_prospector> yes
[04:54] <dr_willis> You can DD a 12.+ iso to usb..
[04:54] <sp3ck> subcool, don't get into the paranoid mode. not yet..
[04:54] <sp3ck> subcool, ok
[04:55]  * Tex_Nick wonders if PAE would seem rather quick with older hardware ?
[04:55] <iknofailfu> i ended up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/51 after reboot, anyone?
[04:55] <skyler> holy crap I think this thing has 2 gb of system memory
[04:56] <darkhelmet46> skyler this works pretty good too: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[04:56] <darkhelmet46> If you're on Windows that is
[04:56] <Ben64> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-June/033495.html
[04:56] <skyler> that website has a copyright logo after linux
[04:56] <J11_1> dr_willis:  well I have hdd problems, so it keeps logging those errors many times per second(for every sector accessed), so they fill up the logs while doing recovery
[04:56] <atrius> grrrr... this is extremely annoying.. so far dpkg-reconfigure is doing exactly nothing when i try and use it to configure ldap :(
[04:56] <skyler> I doubt it is useful for anything
[04:57] <skyler> I will stick to unetbootin for anything on windows, thanks
[04:57] <subcool> sp3ck, i wish i could agree. but- this type of stuff only happens when virus's come around.
[04:57] <darkhelmet46> unetbootin works well too, but Yumi works great
[04:57] <dr_willis> ive had unetbootin not work well..
[04:57] <sp3ck> subcool, yeah... :s
[04:57] <dr_willis> and the pendrivesite has a dozen alternative tools that can be used.
[04:58] <sp3ck> subcool, have you scanned for any rootkits? but i dont think it's this..
[04:58] <darkhelmet46> I used YUMI and a 32GB flash drive to create a swiss army knife of tools.
[04:58] <skyler> but it's a good think I am not using windows
[04:58] <subcool> sp3ck, no.
[04:58] <dr_willis> darkhelmet46:  yep. :) amazing how many disrtos you can fit on a 32gb usb
[04:58] <atrius> it is actually supposed to do something, right?
[04:59] <yourimym1> is there easy gui conky to control and easy ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> J11_1:  dirty hack would be to link /var/log/ to /dev/null so nothing ever gets written...    but sounds like you need to address the real problem
[04:59] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  theres been some over the years.. but most people just find example configs and edit the,
[05:00] <dr_willis> them to suite their needs
[05:00] <yourimym1> can you recommend one for me to install ?
[05:00] <dr_willis> find a conky config you like. and start twiddling with it.
[05:00] <Ben64> darkhelmet46: does yumi let you have a bunch of "cds" boot from the one flash drive?
[05:01] <dr_willis> Ben64:  exactly ;)
[05:01] <Ben64> is there a linux tool to do that?
[05:01] <dr_willis> Ben64:  you could set up grub2 by hand.. or the pendrive site may have some tools/scripts to automate it.
[05:01] <darkhelmet46> Ben64, yes.
[05:02] <yourimym1> i want cool conky with full setting gui
[05:02] <dr_willis> some of their tools are windows only. some are linux only
[05:02] <darkhelmet46> Takes you to a menu where you can choose what you want.
[05:02] <Ben64> hmm...
[05:02] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  so go look at the conky config examples. and find one you like.
[05:02] <yourimym1> umm thx
[05:02] <darkhelmet46> I haven't used IRC in ages, how do you highlight a user?
[05:03] <skyler> type their name
[05:03] <iknofailfu> i ended up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/51 after reboot, anyone?
[05:03] <dr_willis> about 2 + yrs ago there was some conky front end/config tools mentioned at webupd8 and omgubuntu. but not seen them mentioned in ages
[05:03] <The_prospector> like this darkhelmet46
[05:03] <kostkon_> !tab | darkhelmet46
[05:03] <darkhelmet46> oh ok, i thought you had to do somethin special.  thanks.
[05:03] <darkhelmet46> thanks ubottu
[05:03] <darkhelmet46> that's handy
[05:04] <skyler> I need to switch to mutt for email
[05:04] <skyler> it's too hard to configure though
[05:05] <skyler> is there any way to configure vim for java development?
[05:05] <darkhelmet46> oooh conky is neat
[05:06] <yourimym1> !tab | yourimym1
[05:08] <yourimym1> yourimym1:
[05:08] <Tex_Nick> a western digital wd20earx (Green SATA 3 2TB) hd takes about 5 hours to format two 931 GB partitions in windoze xp @^@
[05:12] <PadNet_201> that's definitely quite some time
[05:13] <iknofailfu> i ended up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/51 after reboot, anyone?
[05:14] <BlackWeb> Just curious if anyone would could help me out, I have a card reader that I'm using, Supports Memory Cards & Compact Flash Devices, But the Problem I'm experiencing is when ever I plug any device into then it would allow me to write to it through the GUI, It will if I use the command line/Terminal, Which I've tried reformatting 3 Cards & still Same problem? Any Ideas
[05:15] <BlackWeb> It wont allow me to write to it through GUI
[05:15] <yourimym1> how can i get this config http://didi79.deviantart.com/art/conky-config-127651851
[05:15] <PadNet_201> BlackWeb, are you root in terminal? Could be permission issues
[05:16] <BlackWeb> no regular user, & permissions are all set ok
[05:16] <BlackWeb> so it will only let me write to it through the terminal,
[05:17] <PadNet_201> Not sure there
[05:17] <BlackWeb> its cool, yea it worked, in Ubuntu 10.10
[05:17]  * xjdesx I need help with something serious to me...if someone wants to make a quick $10 via PayPal (no scam), PM me
[05:17]  * xjdesx need someone extremely fluent with computers/ SQL
[05:18] <nuclear_fusion> test
[05:21] <Guest87351> How do I install steam? i need to get tf2 tux and ubuntu wont run steam!! help!
[05:21] <darkhelmet46> I am about to find out how bad the Judge Dredd remake really is.  :D
[05:21] <Tex_Nick> xjdesx:  you might try in #mysql or #postgresql
[05:22] <darkhelmet46> Guest87351, sudo apt-get install steam
[05:22] <Guest87351> i did that and i try to do "run steam" nothing happens? can i just use my mac to get the tux cause that uses linux right
[05:22] <Ben64> mac is not linux, or else it'd be called linux
[05:23] <Guest87351> Lol it uses command line ?? it's unix same thing
[05:23] <darkhelmet46> Mac is unix-based but def not linux.
[05:23] <Ben64> windows has command line too
[05:23] <Guest87351> bash: run: command not found
[05:24] <Ben64> tux isn't even tradeable, just forget it :D
[05:24] <yourimym1> how can i configur conky
[05:24] <aeon-ltd> Ben64: imagine that though, people paying a premium to use a open source OS
[05:24] <Guest87351> I got steam installed now thx guys!
[05:24] <cjfs> yay!
[05:25] <Guest87351> how do i install cain and able now
[05:25] <kostkon_> Guest87351, cain and able? is it a game?
[05:26] <insomniac_lemon> Hello, I'm on 12.04, and I usually use the version-current nVidia drivers. However, steam will not run on them, so I tried experimental 310. However, they removed overscan compensation, and I couldn't get it to boot correctly with the replacement, and it was very buggy, so I went back. Now, Nvidia x server settings says "The NVIDIA X driver on ... is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page." How do I fix this?
[05:26] <skyler> insomniac_lemon, you can instal windows
[05:26] <skyler> JOKING!
[05:27] <yourimym1> i want to add this to my conky how can i do that http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/77242-conkyrc
[05:27] <skyler> Did you make sure to delete all data related to the old drivers?
[05:27] <insomniac_lemon> I also have my xorg.conf and edid.bin backed up from when it was working on 295.4.
[05:27] <skyler> er, the exp drivers
[05:28] <insomniac_lemon> I've removed those, yes, and I've also tried removing the xorg.conf but the problem still persists.
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> yourimym1: by editing your conkyrc...?
[05:28] <insomniac_lemon> I feel like I need to downgrade nVidia X server settings somehow......
[05:29] <yourimym1> aeon-ltd: and where is that conkyrc ?
[05:29] <skyler> okay how do I into bootable usb from an iso on 6.06?
[05:29] <aeon-ltd> yourimym1: ~/.conkyrc
[05:30] <iknofailfu> i ended up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309/comments/51 after reboot, anyone?
[05:30] <yourimym1> aeon-ltd: what to type in termnial am newb
[05:30] <dr_willis> http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[05:31] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  you may want to spend some time learning some bash basics and how to edit text files befor attacking conky then
[05:31] <aeon-ltd> yourimym1: that's not a command, thats where the file is [your home, and it's hidden hence the .]
[05:31] <dr_willis> yourimym1:   make a .conkyrc file in your home directory and conky uses it.
[05:32] <insomniac_lemon> Anyways, any chance of overscan compensation coming back? Metamodes is really stupid, it's incredibly hard to get them to work right, nothing in the settings to change it, and you've got to do this all while you can't see the edges of your screen. Then when you get it working. some things don't realize that you are using a metamode, and display at 1080x1920, basically not accepting your fix. And then, sometimes the fix breaks and you start panni
[05:32] <insomniac_lemon> ng (moving the mouse to the edge of your screen changes the viewing area).
[05:34] <skyler> how do I make a bootable usb drive from an iso?
[05:34] <dr_willis> skyler:  with the many tools at the pendrivelinux site. or other tools.. or just dd the iso straight to the /dev/sdb or whagever device the usb is.
[05:34] <iknofailfu> skyler, unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[05:34] <PadNet_201> several tools online, UNetBootin, YUMI, etc
[05:35] <dr_willis> We mentioned all this earlier i thought....
[05:35] <cheapie> Doesn't Ubuntu have one built in?
[05:35] <dr_willis> cheapie:  yes.
[05:35] <skyler> yeah I forgot how to do it
[05:35] <slinnky> w0000000000000
[05:35] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has numerous guides i belive.
[05:36]  * cheapie wonders why he even joined this channel in the first place, considering that he uses Gentoo... must just be habit...
[05:36] <Wing__> Can someone tell me a way to observe network ranges via physical either (dhcp doesn't exist and trying to find some devices but no idea of network id etc)
[05:36] <slinnky> cheapie, lol
[05:37] <yourimym1> dr_willis: aeon-ltd i've created .conkyrc  on my home folder and gave it acces , then how can i update conky to this folder ?
[05:38] <rjx1> am using ubuntu 12.10 on laptop i will set brightness to low but they not set how to fix this problem
[05:38] <skyler> sudo dd if=[12.04.iso] of=/dev/sda should work right?
[05:38] <insomniac_lemon> What version is the nVidia driver is (post-release updates) for 12.04? Does it have overscan compensation?
[05:38] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  run conky from a terminal.. and it uses that file
[05:38] <usr13> Wing__: Wireless or wired?
[05:38] <dr_willis> skyler:  use a bs=4M option or it will copy really slowly
[05:38] <Wing__> usr13: wired
[05:38] <skyler> so what command should I use
[05:38] <dr_willis> skyler:  and you are SURE its sda?
[05:38] <dr_willis> thats your hard drive most likely
[05:38] <skyler> probably not, I'm checking now
[05:39] <sSs> Wing__, https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/
[05:39] <usr13> Wing__: So you are plugged into a router and you don't know the IP of the router?
[05:39] <usr13> Wing__: Or do you know the router's inside IP?
[05:39] <dr_willis> dding over your hd holding the iso file... is not going to be a good idea
[05:39] <yourimym1> dr_willis: not working just the old conky
[05:39] <Ben64> insomniac_lemon: http://b.wardje.eu/2012/08/nvidia-linux-overscan.html
[05:39] <skyler> yeah it's sda
[05:39] <skyler> my hdd is hda
[05:40] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  close conky. and  tell conky to use the config file you made.. whats its exact name and path?  most likely  you got it in the wrong place. or named wrong
[05:40] <skyler> My HDD is PATA, not SATA. Maybe that's why
[05:40] <Ben64> skyler: you sure? hda doesn't usually exist anymore
[05:40] <Wing__> usr13: it's a bit difficult to tell, it's a massive boat family just bought - i can't find the location of the router but there is rj45 ports everywhere, some of the satellite tv and other systems are configurable by web interfaces but no idea of ip ranges and they have changed from the documented defaults
[05:40] <skyler> I'm on 6.06 right now
[05:40] <skyler> lol
[05:40] <Ben64> oh ..
[05:40] <Ben64> why
[05:40] <dr_willis> skyler:  hda? thats old skool. ;)  they are all sdx on newer disrtos.. somthing to watch out for.
[05:40] <skyler> yeah I figured
[05:41] <skyler> 6.06 is so nice, I'm going to miss it
[05:41] <Ben64> it's been out of support for almost 4 years now
[05:41] <yourimym1> what is sudo for conky to use the file i made ?
[05:41] <skyler> shush, it's doing fine and don't make it feel bad. 6.06 has emtions too you know
[05:41] <Wing__> usr13: i've been in and out of hatches and can't see the physical router as such ... found a switch but looks unmanaged
[05:41] <dr_willis> my 8-track tape player was so nice...
[05:41] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  you DONT use sudo with conky
[05:41] <usr13> Wing__: Ok, it's probably one of a couple IPs, so let's just test and see.  First try this:  sudo dhclient eth0 192.168.1.91;ping 192.168.1.1
[05:41] <Ben64> skyler: it probably has tons of security holes
[05:42] <dr_willis> conky --config=/the/path/to/your/config
[05:42] <skyler> like i give a shit about security on a 4chan browser machine
[05:42] <Wing__> usr13: would wireshark help finding observed network ranges?
[05:42] <insomniac_lemon> Ben64 I figured out how to do it, but not how to fit it in the Xorg.conf file, and like I said, it's buggy with applications compared to overscan compensation that works perfectly.
[05:42] <usr13> Wing__: I dono
[05:42] <skyler> so dr_willis what should I do then?
[05:42] <Ben64> insomniac_lemon: or set your tv to not do overscan?
[05:43] <usr13> Wing__: Did you try 192.168.1.1?
[05:43] <insomniac_lemon> Ben64, my TV does not have the option to not overscan.
[05:43] <dr_willis> skyler:  ive no idea what you are trying to do... you keep jumping around..
[05:43] <skyler> sudo dd if=[iso] of=/dev/sda bs=4m
[05:43] <skyler> will that work okay?
[05:43] <skyler> I'm not really sure how to dd
[05:43] <dr_willis> that will put the iso on sda.. whatever sda is..
[05:43] <Ben64> insomniac_lemon: almost every hdtv does
[05:43] <dr_willis> if you are SURE its the usb flash. ;)
[05:43] <Wing__> usr13: im back on shore now so can't until tomorrow, I was hoping than rather going through setting static ip's and nmap across private ranges there might be something quicker
[05:43] <nick_h> Ubuntu configures rsyslog to run as syslog:adm rather than root:root . how bad is it to change that so that rsyslog runs as root:root ?
[05:43] <skyler> and it will overwrite whatever's already on the flash?
[05:43] <usr13> Wing__:   sudo dhclient eth0 192.168.1.91;ping -c3 192.168.1.1
[05:44] <dr_willis> Flash will be erased.. yes
[05:44] <skyler> should I format the flashplayer first?
[05:44] <dr_willis> Flash will be erased........
[05:44] <dr_willis> no need to format it.. for it ti get erased again
[05:44] <usr13> Wing__: I don't know.  I've yet to come up against a problem like that.
[05:45] <angs> what is a good program on ubuntu to use for verilog programming?
[05:45] <packetfrog> How do i make the black area when running Cairo go away!?
[05:45] <dr_willis> packetfrog:  use a desktop/window manager that has compositing i belive
[05:45]  * Tex_Nick still has an 8 track player ... with about 30 tapes ... jeeze that stuff really sucked :-(
[05:45] <insomniac_lemon> Ben64: well Mine is an older HDTV. It doesn't have the option. I can increase/decrease overscan and its offset, but that's it. On HDMI with my computer, the overscan is locked in a 0, which I'm guessing is not actually no overscan.
[05:46] <packetfrog> dr_willis compiz hates me apparently
[05:46] <dr_willis> skyler:  i think its bs=4M  not m.. but it may not matter
[05:46] <packetfrog> :/
[05:46] <Wing__> usr13: it's quite unique problem ;) just doesn't help when equipment is all over the place, would have been nice if they had a frame room with all the equipment on a rack but no
[05:46] <skyler> what does that do, exactly?
[05:46] <skyler> the bs=4m
[05:46] <dr_willis> block size.
[05:46] <usr13> Wing__: I don't think you can use wireshark or nmap without being connected to a network.
[05:46] <skyler> I just started it without it, should I cancel and redo with that?
[05:46] <dr_willis> otherwise it uses like a 1k blobk.. and will take 100x as long
[05:46] <skyler> oh shit okay
[05:46] <dr_willis> it shouldent take too long anyway.
[05:46] <rjx1> how to remove web apps like gmail and facebook in ubuntu 12.10
[05:46] <IdleOne> skyler: please keep the language clean
[05:47] <dr_willis> rjx1:  right click on the icon and unpin them?
[05:47] <Wing__> usr13: i thought promiscous (spelling) effectively just put the network device in listening regardless of ip being assigned or not.. i could be wrong
[05:47] <dr_willis> webapps dont even s seem to work here any more.
[05:47] <insomniac_lemon> does "sudo apt-get autoremove" remove files that an application has created?
[05:47] <dr_willis> insomniac_lemon:  no.
[05:48] <dr_willis> insomniac_lemon:  the apt system does not touch files the users have made with the apps either.
[05:48] <sSs> sudo apt-get purge $package-name
[05:48] <dr_willis> be sort of weird if removeing gedit.. removed every text file..
[05:48] <insomniac_lemon> dr_willis, is there a way I can remove files that removed applications created without manually doing it?
[05:48] <skyler> just under a minute. That was fast!
[05:48] <dr_willis> insomniac_lemon:  'remove files' is a broad statement.. what files exactly?
[05:49] <yourimym1> how to kill conky from terminal
[05:49] <insomniac_lemon> No, I mean files that the application created and USES, as in configuration files, ect.
[05:49] <skyler> well gonna try to install this now. Wish me luck!
[05:49] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  ctrl-c or killall conky
[05:49] <dr_willis> from a differnt term
[05:49] <rjx1> unpin not work
[05:49] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[05:50] <usr13> Wing__: Reading: http://www.wireshark.org/faq.html#q7.6
[05:50] <yourimym1> thx
[05:50] <Ubuntu_noobi> Hi ya'll
[05:50] <Ubuntu_noobi> Wow, first time in an IRC... Excuse my noobiness
[05:51] <sSs> hiya Ubuntu_noobi. got something good for us?
[05:51] <Ubuntu_noobi> Question about media after converting from Vista to 12.10
[05:52] <aeon-ltd> Ubuntu_noobi: go on...
[05:52] <usr13> Wing__: Looks like [maybe] "sudo ifconfig -promisc eth0"  (Reading man ifconfig).. "Enable or disable the promiscuous mode of the interface.  If selected, all packets on the network will be received by the interface."
[05:52] <Wing__> usr13: awesome thank you .... will give it a go and see - thanks for your assistance
[05:53] <Ubuntu_noobi> WHen I was sorting thru my file folders,  none of my pictures or videos were available.  Do I need to move the media to a thumbdrive and reload from Vista to Ubuntu?
[05:53] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  some interesting info and examples here --> http://forum.pinguyos.com/Forum-Conky-How-to-Guides
[05:53] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_noobi:  your vista files are on your windows partions..
[05:54] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_noobi:  it should be shown at the left side of the file manager.
[05:54] <Ubuntu_noobi> Same with my contacts in THunderbird.  Once I synced my Gmail, none of my contacts were visible.  Do I need to move them manually as well?
[05:54] <herry> hello
[05:54] <rkhshm> Is anyone aware of the aio_read aio_write() calls
[05:54] <rkhshm> i have some doubts i want to clear
[05:55] <Ubuntu_noobi> Dr. Willis:  Will they not appear in the folders themselves?
[05:55] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_noobi:  the ubuntu install does NOT copy files over from your windows install any more.  You go to the windows hard drive and access them..
[05:55] <dr_willis> the Ubuntu install knows nothing aboyut what you are doing on windows.
[05:56] <Ubuntu_noobi> dr. willis: so I will need to manually move them?
[05:56] <usr13> Wing__: Actually, after you put your NIC in promiscuous mode, you should just be able to run tcpdump for a while and find what you need.
[05:56] <dr_willis> or access them on the windows drive
[05:56] <Ubuntu_noobi> forgive my noobiness
[05:56] <Wing__> usr13: sounds like a battle plan to me ;)
[05:56] <dr_willis> your windows hd should be shown in the file managers icons/left side bars
[05:56] <Ubuntu_noobi> thx dr.
[05:57] <usr13> Wing__: Yep.  (We both learned something here....)
[05:57] <usr13> Ok, gotta turn in for the night.  ttyl
[05:57] <herry> i want to know9 what CDMA type modem work on Ubuntu??) i want to try. Now i online with GSM modem
[05:57] <Wing__> usr13: finding out how the systems are configured is just a mission since we can't get hold of the original owners or skipper and since we imported it from another country - yeah a lot to figure out
[05:57] <Ace4604> Hello?
[05:57] <herry> hello too
[05:58] <Ace4604> Hey, could anyone help me on a steam for linux problem?
[05:58] <ga_sk8er> good luck Ace...im having issues with steam too
[05:58] <Ace4604> Lol
[05:58] <dr_willis> Ace4604:  whats the exact problem? there is the #ubuntu-steam channel but its often dead.
[05:58] <Ace4604> Alright, well
[05:59] <Ace4604> I open the package installer for steam
[05:59] <Ace4604> and get this
[05:59] <Ace4604> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.15)
[05:59] <Ace4604> I've updated the distro
[05:59] <Ace4604> and restarted
[05:59] <Ace4604> I don't know where to go from here.
[05:59] <basilis2009> kalimera se oloys
[05:59] <ga_sk8er> my video works fine on everything but when i  open the steam client it dont show right. cant view some of the butoons like "ok" or "cancel" & cant see display picture for me or my friends. instead i see a white box wher they should be
[05:59] <ga_sk8er> *buttons
[06:00] <Wing__> usr13: thanks again
[06:00] <Ace4604> Any ideas on where I should go?
[06:01] <Ubuntu_noobi> i know nothing
[06:01] <Ubuntu_noobi> where can I read additional material about where a noob should start?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !manual | Ubuntu_noobi
[06:02] <ga_sk8er> Ace4604 u  say u checked for updates?
[06:02] <dr_willis> Ace4604:  someone else had that same issue yesterday.. i dont know how they fixed it.
[06:02] <Ubuntu_noobi> ubottu:  thx so much!
[06:02] <Ace4604> Yes
[06:02] <dr_willis> Ace4604:  what ubuntu version are you using?
[06:02] <Ace4604> I checked for updates
[06:02] <Ace4604> Umm...
[06:02] <Ubuntu_noobi> lol
[06:02] <Ace4604> I think 12.04
[06:02] <Ace4604> Is there a certain way to check?
[06:02] <dr_willis> !version
[06:03] <Ace4604> !version
[06:03] <Ace4604> ah
[06:03] <Ace4604> 10.04
[06:03] <Ace4604> Thats what I have.
[06:03] <Ace4604> That probably is the problem.....
[06:04] <Ace4604> well hey! I think thats the next step
[06:04] <Ace4604> Thank you for the help
[06:04] <ga_sk8er> yeah they say steam runs best on 12.04
[06:04] <Ace4604> I need to backup my files on here
[06:04] <Ace4604> May take a bit
[06:04] <Ace4604> But thanks for the help!
[06:04] <ga_sk8er> im still trying to figure out my video issue. thinking of typing an angry letter to ATI...using bird fingers
[06:05] <ga_sk8er> how do i install an rpm package?
[06:05] <insomniac_lemon> Alright, I fixed it. I had to do 'sudo apt-get autoremove' after I removed all of the drivers.
[06:05] <stan879nz> i have better luck using ati than nvidia
[06:06] <ga_sk8er> my driver is an rpm file so if i can install that file, i  might have mine working
[06:06] <insomniac_lemon> But why will Steam run with non-proprietary (generic?) drivers, but not 295.40?
[06:07] <apb1963> what's the proper way to redirect stderr?  I tried both >& and 2>&1 but neither seemed to capture it.
[06:07] <Delux> I keep being told that fdisk is outdated and I need to use a different ultilty. how do I list all partitions on all drives without using fdisk -l
[06:07] <stan879nz> Hello im after a program that will let me multi launch a program if any one could help me out that would be great
[06:07] <ga_sk8er> i installed alien but when i  insert the filename it says that name doesnt exist
[06:08] <dr_willis> a rpm driver file - is very unlikely to work
[06:09] <ga_sk8er> its the only driver i can find....i installed jockey & it cant find one so im getting the driver ATI has
[06:09] <dr_willis> Delux:  parted. or gparted are   the reccomended tools these days
[06:09] <dr_willis> parted has a -l option
[06:09] <dr_willis> using an rpm of an ati driver - is definatly not a good idea
[06:09] <insomniac_lemon> ga_sk8er, are you using the right version of Jockey?
[06:09] <stan879nz> ga_sk8er what gfx card do you have
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> im using the version that of jockey that came from the ubuntu software center
[06:10] <Delux> ok dr_jesus
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> maybe jockey didnt install...idk
[06:10] <Delux> ok dr_willis
[06:10] <Delux> thanks
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> software center shows it installed
[06:10] <yourimym1> dr_willis:  i've allowed /home/.conkyrc as executable but having same prob
[06:10] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  .conkyrc does not need to be executable
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> stan879nz its a radeon 9200 pro
[06:11] <insomniac_lemon> ga_sk8er: make sure you are using the gtk version, not the kde version?
[06:11] <ga_sk8er> idk theres 2 versions
[06:11] <ga_sk8er> i only saw 1 listed in software version
[06:11] <dr_willis> conky -c /home/willis/.conkyrc            (in my case to run conky using my config)
[06:11] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  conky -c /home/willis/.conkyrc            (in my case to run conky using my config)
[06:12] <insomniac_lemon> ga_sk8er, try the one labeled  (jockey-gtk) if you have the other one installed
[06:12] <ga_sk8er> i have both jockeys on my machine...should i  delete the kde?
[06:13] <dr_willis> either jocky does the same job..
[06:13] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 gnome classic de ... using a single monitor & compiz qube ( i know it's lame, but i need it at times ) ... if i connect a second monitor ... how would that work ... cube would have to be disabeled ?
[06:13] <PadNet_201> excellent question
[06:13] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  cubew can work with 2 monitors.. it can look UGLY also. ;)
[06:13] <stan879nz> Hello im after a program that would let me log in wow two or more times
[06:14] <Gerowen> Can somebody tell me how I can revoke an old OpenPGP key I published to the Ubuntu servers with a computer that is no longer functioning?
[06:14] <Gerowen> I don't have a copy of the private key on my new computer, and have generated a new Key, so I just want to remove the old one.
[06:14] <yourimym1> dr_willis: thx again
[06:14] <ga_sk8er> how am i to run jockey? im sure its a terminal command like 99% of the other programs
[06:14] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  this is a nifty littke conly setup -> http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Conky-Colors-8-released
[06:15] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  jockey-gtk, or jockey-cli   i recall
[06:15] <ga_sk8er> no proprietary drivers
[06:16] <ga_sk8er> brb...got a warning in my corner...need 2 restart for some updates
[06:17] <darkhelmet46> how do i change servers?
[06:17] <rexwin_> hi lsof -i:25 is not working, why
[06:18] <rexwin_> though MTA working on 25 is listening
[06:18] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i'm sitting here trying to visualize that UGLY look ... i just gotta try this :-)
[06:19] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  i recall it appearing right in the middle of the 2 monoitors befor.. so the bezels were in the way
[06:20] <ga_sk8er> ok i rebooted
[06:22] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : ok sounds kinda non-functional then ... how about using 4 workspaces then on two monitors ... how would that work ?
[06:24] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  2 monitors give you one WIDE workspace.. you woul dhave 4 very wide workspaces
[06:26] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi. How do I install virtualbox guest additions on Ubuntu Server guest without GUI?
[06:26] <robotnut> apt-get?
[06:26] <ruslan_osmanov> I know about virtualbox-guest-additions package. But it pulls x11
[06:26] <ruslan_osmanov> I just want shared folders function
[06:27] <dr_willis> You can just use samba or nfs or even sshfs to have shared access to the vm instance
[06:27] <dr_willis> no need for the guest addation special shares
[06:27] <ruslan_osmanov> some kind of port forwarding you mean? Hmm, maybe
[06:28] <dr_willis> Err.. you can set up samba or nfs same as you woile between 2 real machines
[06:29] <dr_willis> You can even set the  vbox to show on the local lans range of ips if you want other machines to access it.
[06:30] <fullusr> hi
[06:30] <fullusr> my sound is not working
[06:30] <sSs> sudo lspci
[06:30] <fullusr> as in no sound via any output
[06:30] <robotnut> ctrl + alt + del
[06:31] <sSs> ^ this guy isnt very helpful
[06:31] <chinoto> ruslan_osmanov: with sshfs, the vm would be running an ssh server, then people can mount a directory in the vm like this "sshfs USER@VM_IP:REMOTE_DIR LOCAL_DIR"
[06:31] <apb1963> what's the proper way to redirect stderr from the shell?
[06:31] <fullusr> i pastebin the output _
[06:31] <fullusr> or no
[06:31] <sSs> that would help
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Having trouble understanding launchpad. I have a project that I want divided into 5 branches, some of which will be closed source. Do I do this with a single project, and create 5 bazaar branches, (which I don't understand given  mixed licences) or do I create multiple projects on launchpad, each dealing with a particular branch and its project?
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad>  The reason why I ask is because launchpad is not letting me create multiple projects saying that they are duplicates.
[06:32] <chinoto> apb1963: "command 2> /dev/null" or "command 2>&1"
[06:32] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i've been working off a physical desk 2Ft x 3Ft for a year now ... in a couple hours it should be big enough for2 monitors ... as always thanks for the feedback sir :-)
[06:32] <ga_sk8er> now my steam wont even open
[06:32] <fullusr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669351/
[06:32] <apb1963> thanks chinoto... did that.. not sure why it didn't work.  Maybe I typoed.  Oh well... thank you.
[06:33] <fullusr> HP G4 1270
[06:33] <chinoto> apb1963: maybe the ampersand is supposed to go before the 2 and not the 1...
[06:33] <apb1963> is it?
[06:33] <chinoto> I don't know for sure
[06:33] <fullusr> AMD Vision (fusion) E2 APU
[06:33] <fullusr> IDT HD Audio
[06:34] <apb1963> well, that would be news to me... but... stranger things have happened.
[06:34] <ga_sk8er> im thinking of formatting & starting over on another pc
[06:34] <chinoto> apb1963: looks like that was right
[06:35] <apb1963> what if I want to pipe it  through tee?   command | tee 2>&1 out.txt   ???  I can never remember that one
[06:36] <fullusr> sss  anythin wrong with the output
[06:37] <sSs> iinstall ALSA mixer and make sure its not turned down. that should be working. (unless your talking about the HDMI audio which might not)
[06:37] <xboxlinux> hi
[06:37] <fullusr> hi
[06:37] <sSs> my azalia doesnt work either since AMD put it down to legacy pasture
[06:38] <ubuntu-studio> I attempted to remove xfce from ubuntustudio and install fluxbox  now my system just hangs,  any hints? :/
[06:38] <xboxlinux> anyone know how to code or script , so i can batch install apps  by writting it
[06:38] <dr_willis> hangs where?
[06:39] <sSs> my advise would be to try ubuntu 12.04 as that is known good for the azalia
[06:39] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  a simple script with  lots of 'sudo apt-get install foobar thisapp thatapp'  lines is all you need
[06:39] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  hi long time no see.
[06:39] <ubuntu-studio> after ubuntustudio splash screen it goes away and is loading things and saying ok  then just sits  but the SECOND i hit my power buttn it shuts down properly   wont do anything else
[06:39] <sSs> are you using EXT2?
[06:40] <chinoto> apb1963: you would say "command 2>&1 | command2"
[06:40] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu-studio: if u hit power buton for 1sec and it shuts down, that is bad
[06:40] <sSs> have you unplugged the USb devices?
[06:40] <Ubuntu_noobi> anyone know anything about Gwibber?
[06:40] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu-studio: its supposed to take 4sec
[06:40] <dr_willis> see if you can get to the consoles.. alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and get a login prompt.
[06:40] <ubuntu-studio> I mean it responds to the button immediately.
[06:40] <sSs> ubuntu-studio, what file system and have you tried roving all usb devices
[06:41] <ubuntu-studio> ext4
[06:41] <ubuntu-studio> dr_willis Will do. :) I did try the first  not the rest of the f keys though
[06:41] <ubuntu-studio> no usb untill i wanted to boot to ask here... :p
[06:41] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  can you pastebin and  sample? oh and also how do i go about the script so that every app will be asked if i want to install.
[06:41] <Ubuntu_noobi> cant seem to switch between my twitter and FB accounts.... Only showing twitter... plz help
[06:41] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu-studio: sSs may be right. i have to disconnect all of my usb devices to make my computer boot. as soon as it passes black screen i have to hook them back up during splash screen
[06:42] <ubuntu-studio> There are no usb devices  its just my laptop   and power cable
[06:42] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  i gave you a szmple line... 'sudo apt-get install vim'   or whagtever it is you want to install.
[06:42] <AcidRain2012> Ubuntu_noobi: no relation here man. http://google.com
[06:42] <dr_willis> if you want them to ask.. you need to  pay attention and it will ask i belive.. tell it no. ;)
[06:42] <fullusr> i only see s/pdif
[06:42] <Ubuntu_noobi> Sorry, looking at Gwibber
[06:43] <dr_willis>    Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[06:43] <fullusr> something gone awwry
[06:43] <dr_willis> say n ;)
[06:43] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,
[06:43] <ubuntu-studio> brb
[06:43] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : thinking about your last post to me ... Tex_Nick:  2 monitors give you one WIDE workspace.. you woul dhave 4 very wide workspaces ... that indicates to me that again the bezels would be in the center of each workspace ???
[06:44] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  they can be.. unless the apps do things correctlyu
[06:44] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  vim means?
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info vim
[06:44] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[06:44] <AcidRain2012> yeah. when i run 2 monitors. sometimes a few apps will open in the center
[06:44] <fullusr> sSS
[06:45] <sSs> ?
[06:45] <fullusr> sSS , i checked and nothing is muted
[06:46] <sSs> me id go with 12.04 as i know that one properly supports it. it should be working. have you installed the AMD proprietary drivers? if so remove em
[06:46] <fullusr> enlightenment (i set up e desktop ) sound manager detect my card also
[06:46] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  so if i want vlc chrome an skpye  do i call this as there name or the dev nameing?
[06:46] <fullusr> and everything has volume
[06:47] <sSs> also try turning up the volume in the indicater volume thingy. i use ubuntu studio and sometimes theres no sound untill i mess with the slider
[06:47] <ruslan_osmanov> chinoto, thank you. It helped. I also had to pass some options: -o allow_other -o gid=1000 -o uid=1000
[06:47] <fullusr> no , no luck
[06:48] <blackshirt> !info jarwrapper
[06:49] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i've never used a VM enviornment ... is that what i should use for dual monitor setup on 12.10 ?
[06:50] <chinoto> ruslan_osmanov: huh, I did "idmap=user" to fix permission problems, though maybe your problem is different
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: no.
[06:50] <xboxlinux> virtualbox
[06:50] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  is afk
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: what gfx card do you have?
[06:51] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  a vm?  that dosent have anything to do with dual monitors really.
[06:51] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: setting up 2 monitors is as easy as plugging them in. ubuntu will auto detect them and all you have to do is reboot
[06:51] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: you can see your monitor options: System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[06:51] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:   use the package manger tools to determine the package names.
[06:51] <TakeItEZ> reboot for dual-monitor usage? odd idea
[06:52] <xboxlinux> AcidRain2012,  have i been away that loongg  that its becaome that simple? :D
[06:52] <dr_willis> Ive had to restart X for twiniew to work totally correct.. but in 12.10 i think that may not be needed any more
[06:52] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: agreed
[06:52] <dr_willis> I plug in my 2nd monitor and it even enbles twinview automatically in 12.10
[06:52] <AcidRain2012> xboxlinux: yeah. lol. thats all i have to do. i run an asus computer. when i had an nvidia card, i had to do quite some modifications. but it was all still under preferences.
[06:53] <chinoto> I've never had to reboot for dual monitor
[06:53] <Tex_Nick> ok guys ... i'm making this too complicated ... i just need to do it ... couple hours will be there ... dr_willis & AcidRain2012 thanks :-)
[06:53] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: ya im still at 10.10. i think it does if i use the hdmi cable. but dvi and rgb i think i have to logout then login
[06:53] <xboxlinux> AcidRain2012,  O...o   !!?!?!?
[06:53] <AcidRain2012> xboxlinux: eh?
[06:54] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  it worked for a dvi cable for me. ;)
[06:54] <magn3ts> How many Tux hunting noobs have you guys seen lately?
[06:54] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: guess your right... must be thin king about my laptop. lol
[06:55] <xboxlinux> acid thts was a amazed face
[06:55] <AcidRain2012> lol. in that case, has it been that long for me? lol
[06:56] <xboxlinux> just 2 years ago its was a pain in the @$$ just to get it to work no matter what
[06:56] <mika`> when i mount my external usb hardrive, it uses fuseblk (whatever that is)  i have to mount it as root. i think because i have it in my fstab as this:  #UUID=A24AE9C84AE998F5 /media/seagate ntfs rw,noauto,user,exec	0 0    everything is fine, except:  1. i would like to not have to enter root pwd to mount it, and 2. i would like to create and delete files as a normal user, not as root.
[06:56] <AcidRain2012> mika`: that line is commented out...
[06:57] <Malsasa> Hello, lintian says: missing-dep-on-jarwrapper when checking my debian.deb from my JAR. How can I fix this?
[06:57] <dr_willis> mika`:  # - comment so its ignored.. and noauto means it wont mount at boot time
[06:57] <dr_willis> mika`:  you may want to check the ntfs-3g homepage for examples of fstab lines to do what you want done
[06:57] <dr_willis> mika`:  or run the ntfs-config utility to auto make a line
[06:58] <AcidRain2012> UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183	/media/Server2 ext3	defaults	0	0
[06:58] <AcidRain2012> UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183   /media/Server2   ext3   defaults   0   0
[06:59] <mika`> acidflash,  yeah, it's commented out, cause i'm testing.. i am just letting mtab do it's thing right now.
[06:59] <TakeItEZ> next step would be to explain the difference between native linux-fs and fuse-fs like ntfs and how those are handled in fstab ...
[07:00] <mika`> do i need this fuse-fs thingy?
[07:00] <dr_willis> chockri:  keep it in channel please
[07:00] <dr_willis> mika`:  ntfs-3g uses fuse.
[07:00] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[07:00] <mika`> oh, cause it's ntfs.     and vfat doesn't use fuse right?
[07:00] <TakeItEZ> mika`: right
[07:00] <dr_willis> no need for fuse for vfat
[07:00] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: i dont have an issue hooking an ntfs drive to my box and modifying it....
[07:01] <AcidRain2012> unless if ntfs-3g comes stock with ubuntu...
[07:01] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  ive seen them get mounted ith differnt options.. not sure why
[07:01] <mika`> i thunk i saw something in a mtab line, that had a part about 'create files as 0777' or something like that.
[07:01] <dr_willis> and nrfs-3g is installed by default
[07:01] <AcidRain2012> mika`: you can change permissions on the entire drive as root.
[07:02] <mika`> but if i create a file as it is now, root creates it, i just want my normal usr to create it.
[07:02] <TakeItEZ> mika`: you want to read"man mount" about mount-options like uid/gid/umask
[07:02] <mika`> user_id=0,group_id=0      this means root is playing with the drive right?
[07:02] <Abraham_bacon> help
[07:02] <dr_willis> you dont chown/chmod ntfs or vfat filesystms.. you set them when they are mounted
[07:03] <AcidRain2012> mika`: exit out of nautilus...? how did you get into a root browser without being signed in as root, or without typing root password into terminal?
[07:03] <dr_willis> you mount the ntfs with the right options.. and it will be owned by the user
[07:03] <nmvs> ayuda !!!!!
[07:03] <chinoto> Abraham_bacon: state your problem, not a plea for help
[07:03] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: right u r. my bad. i always format every ntfs drive as ext3 as soon as i get it :)
[07:03] <mika`> dr_willis,  yeah, i think i need to mount with the options i want.   like, mount as user. somehow. not as root.
[07:04] <dr_willis> mika`:  run ntfs-config. or read up on the ntfs-3g wiki page. or the ntf3-3g homepage.. it tells how.
[07:04] <mika`> i would format it, cept other people in this world use windows, so if my whole ext. drive was ext4, then i couldn't use it on their computers.
[07:04] <nmvs> AYUDA NO PUEDO HACER CORRER LINEAGE 2 GRACIA
[07:04] <AcidRain2012> i understood the word hacker
[07:04] <AcidRain2012> !!!!!
[07:05] <dr_willis> #UUID=19C853E9785E19AE/media/willis/VideoShare3000ntfs-3gdefaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-800
[07:05] <dr_willis> silly thing.. not pasteing tabs. ;)
[07:05] <mika`> that's ok, i get it.
[07:05] <mika`> i'll try your line.
[07:05] <chinoto> mika`: why not just use fat32? I thought that was the de facto way of sharing a drive/partition between windows and linux.
[07:06] <dr_willis> vfat has a 4gb file size limit
[07:06] <nmvs> alguien me puede ayudar
[07:06] <nmvs> porfaaaaaaaaaaavor
[07:06] <chinoto> good point -_-
[07:06] <TakeItEZ> !es | nmvs
[07:06] <mika`> fat32 limits to 4gig files.
[07:06] <nmvs> uuuuuuuuuuuuuhh gracias
[07:06] <nmvs> (Y)
[07:06] <sSs> thats FAT (aka FAT16)
[07:07] <TakeItEZ> sSs: even vfat(fat32)
[07:07] <sSs> i thought they fixed that
[07:07] <mika`> i believe fat32 also is four gig limit right?
[07:07] <sSs> it used to be i thought it was fixed
[07:07] <xboxlinux> no
[07:07] <xboxlinux> fat 16 does
[07:07] <AcidRain2012> chinoto: ya i rly hate that. i tell everyone if they cant connect to the ftp with the instructions i have provided them then they are screwed. cause im not putting a fat32/ntfs drive into my box. and extx doesnt go to windows
[07:08] <dr_willis> Not sure how you could fix that....
[07:08] <AcidRain2012> but they do make programs for windows that will read a extx drive
[07:08] <TakeItEZ> mika`: it has
[07:08] <TakeItEZ> fat-filesystem always has max filesize = 4GB -1byte
[07:08] <chinoto> fat32 filesize limit is 4GiB, but there is also something called fat32+ which can go up to 256GiB
[07:08] <mika`> dmesg says this for the drive:  [41005.987512] sd 30:0:0:0: [sdd] 488397168 512-byte logical blocks: (250 GB/232 GiB)
[07:08] <mika`> mtab shows it as this:  /dev/sdd1 /media/Seagate fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[07:09] <mika`> why are the block sizes not the same?
[07:09] <yeehi> I want to change the firmware on my router to Tomato RAF. Here is my router: http://www.victek.is-a-geek.com/tomatoen.html The Tomato page is here:  http://www.victek.is-a-geek.com/tomatoen.html Which file should I use to flash the router? The people at #tomato didn't help me...
[07:09] <TakeItEZ> chinoto: exFAT you mean?
[07:09] <AcidRain2012> yeehi: wrong channel
[07:09] <mika`> why are you asking in here yeehi ?
[07:10] <mika`> why not ask about your muffler in your car while you are at it?
[07:10] <sSs> okay be nice
[07:10] <yeehi> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31598-cisco-linksys-x2000-wireless-n-adsl2-modem-router-reviewed
[07:10] <AcidRain2012> mika`: it wasnt the muffler. turns out it was the spark plugs in the wrong pattern
[07:10] <TakeItEZ> !offtopic | yeehi
[07:10] <yeehi> i am using ubuntu mika
[07:11] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: no this seems to be something else
[07:11] <mika`> good diag AcidRain2012
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> yeehi: asking here isn't helpful, asking in offtopic channels is more appropriate, but only the designated channels offer real support
[07:11] <AcidRain2012> thx. rly tried. lol
[07:11] <sSs> your question has absolutly nothing to do with Ubuntu
[07:11] <mika`> what if the router is connected to an ubuntu computer money man?
[07:11] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> mika`: not relevant unless it's ubuntu causing the problem
[07:12] <mika`> i just kiddin.
[07:12] <dr_willis> hes asking what file to use.. how do we know. ;)
[07:12] <AcidRain2012> then my advice is, in firefox. 192.168.1.1
[07:13] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: supposedly compatible with FAT32 (bigger files can get accidentally truncated by software that doesn't support FAT32+), while exFAT is completely incompatible with FAT32, it is only based on FAT
[07:14] <TakeItEZ> chinoto: i never heard of it, but i guess its something beyond any standard and not spreaded that much
[07:14] <mika`> in mtab, my drive shows this in it's line:    user_id=0,group_id=0      this means root would be the one creating folders on the drive right?
[07:14] <AcidRain2012> chinoto: i believe the advice to be given here, is to make all storage devices ext3/4, and then download software for windows that can handle these drive formats
[07:14] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: I only knew about it a few minutes ago, ahh internet :D
[07:15] <mika`> acidflash,  do you know of such software for winders?
[07:15] <chinoto> AcidRain2012: that's what I do for my games and storage on Windows anyway :D (hate defragmenting)
[07:15] <AcidRain2012> mika`: hang on. i actually downloaded 1 not to long ago. let me see if i can find it on google again
[07:16] <chinoto> mika`: this is what I use http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[07:16] <mika`> thanks. this would help me muchly. then i could make all my drives ext4
[07:16] <AcidRain2012> http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[07:16] <mika`> err, yours says ext2 not ext4 in the url.
[07:16] <Chojek> Anyone here know how to install skype?
[07:16] <Chojek> or download it
[07:16] <dr_willis> !skype
[07:17] <Chojek> !skype
[07:17] <mika`> Chojek,  do a google search for medibuntu
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> mika`: would journaling even be useful when using it like that?
[07:17] <chinoto> mika`: I know... that part kinda sucks, but it works perfectly for ext2
[07:17] <Chojek> Mika, i'm on the link ubottu sent me "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/skype
[07:18] <Chojek> medibuntu?
[07:18] <mika`> aeon-ltd,  i have no clue. would it? i thought journaling was good if bad things happen. like lose of power or someone ripping the usb out when it's doing stuff.
[07:18] <mika`> chinoto,  that sucks. i'll search for a ext4 one sometime... that i would use...
[07:19] <vampire> wow trine 2 showed up in my linux steam cool i bought it in windows
[07:19] <chinoto> mika`: if you find anything, it's probably fairly new and untested, I looked quite a bit
[07:19] <Chojek> Mika. i'm on medibuntu, now what?
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> vampire: that's the standard
[07:19] <vampire> thats pretty cool though
[07:20] <mika`> chinoto,  how could they not make this work? if they can do ext2, then why not 4?
[07:20] <vampire> im downloading it right now wonder how good itll work on ubuntu
[07:20] <AcidRain2012> what are some cool servers to run in linux?
[07:21] <AcidRain2012> i enjoy setting up servers and running free services
[07:21] <TakeItEZ> what a stupid question
[07:21] <sSs> xampp + opencart
[07:21] <Albert_Zhou> .....
[07:21] <quick-> AcidRain2012:  Apache
[07:21] <sSs> xampp + everyting you would find in softalicious
[07:21] <chinoto> mika`: seeing as it isn't done yet, I would say it isn't that easy to reimplement in a Windows driver
[07:22] <AcidRain2012> quick-: i do apache, mumble, mp3 streaming, email server. sms response server, and irc bot for controlling game data
[07:22] <mika`> Chojek,  read here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[07:22] <AcidRain2012> was kinda looking for something fresh and new that i havent done before
[07:22] <RevelX> hey can i just run ubuntu on vmware along side my windows?
[07:22] <vampire> has anyone tried etherape
[07:22] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  run a counter-strike server!  hah.
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> nginx, host a koolaid fan site, dat kool enuff?
[07:23] <vampire> you can see what people are looking at on your local network
[07:23] <AcidRain2012> mika`: lol. what i rly wanna do is find some type of directplay for linux or something that would allow me to play my favorite game JKDF2
[07:23] <AcidRain2012> mika`: on multiplayer over tcp/ip connection. i can play it on single player
[07:23] <vampire> plex media server nah
[07:23] <mika`> what's jkdf2?
[07:24] <AcidRain2012> jedi knight dark forces 2
[07:24] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:24] <mika`> Ext2Fsd is a Windows file system driver for the Ext2, Ext3, and Ext4 file systems. It allows Windows to read Linux file systems natively, providing access to the file system via a drive letter that any program can access.
[07:24] <mika`> it says it does ext4
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> mika`: thats the one i had!
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> it does indeed work
[07:25] <mika`> i'm not up on the newerish games... my vid card can't take it. and i'm not gonna keep paying $250 for a new vid card every three years... so i gave up on newerish pc games.
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> mika`: that game came out in 1996
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:25] <mika`> so what's the prob acid man?  it should do just fine fer ext4 right?
[07:26] <chinoto> mika`: if you turn off journaling and extents, then it will probably work great for ext4, but then you're basically using ext2 anyway
[07:26] <AcidRain2012> mika`: it should. have u tried it? :P
[07:26] <mika`> i havne't tried it.
[07:26] <mika`> i do'nt want to unless it won't hurt anything.
[07:26] <mika`> i don't really get what journaling and extents is.
[07:26] <dr_willis> i wouldent trust any windows tools to read/write to ext2/3/4
[07:27] <dr_willis> perhaps READ ONLY.. but not write
[07:27] <mika`> how come it works just fine with samba shares mrs. willis?
[07:27] <mika`> er, doctor.
[07:27] <dr_willis> what does samba have to do with it?
[07:27] <AcidRain2012> dude im about to install Celestia, its a universe simulation tool. just gonna check out whats int he sky hehe
[07:27] <chinoto> dr_willis: I agree on greater than ext2
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> that's like saying why does ftp work
[07:27] <mika`> cause my winders compuyter reads and wirtes to a samba share on a ext4 computer just fine...
[07:28] <dr_willis> Samba is accessing ext2/3/4 as ext2/3/4 windows dosent see  the actual fs
[07:28] <aartist> Hi, testing my
[07:28] <chinoto> yay abstraction layers!
[07:28] <mika`> we can't read your test aartist !
[07:30] <aartist> ok, How I can see ubuntu programs in emacs?
[07:30] <datruth> could someone help me with an ident issue?
[07:30] <vampire> mika what video card do you have
[07:31] <AcidRain2012> Celestia... not very cool. appreciate the work though
[07:31] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, erm, sure?  whatcha need?
[07:32] <mika`> it's a geforce 6800
[07:32] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: i'm using oidentd and I have users setup who are allowed to spoof their ident when placing the .oidentd.conf it's like it doesn't even read it
[07:32] <vampire> oh yeah thats old scores about what 600 passmark
[07:32] <mika`> yeah, upgradeing costs too much...
[07:33] <mika`> i would like to play far cry three.... that'd be sweet. i have it, just haven't installed it cause i know it'll suck.
[07:33] <mika`> the rest of my computer is very fast...
[07:33] <vampire> i got a 6850 radeon hd its pretty good
[07:33] <mika`> ati ? eeew.
[07:33] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, pastebin me your /etc/oidentd.conf
[07:33] <vampire> yeah but it plays games at 1080p
[07:33] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, and what is being placed in ~/.oidentd.conf as well
[07:34] <mika`> nice. i always thought linux support for amd was bad.
[07:34] <vampire> its only like 100 bucks
[07:34] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: one sec
[07:34] <vampire> it is
[07:34] <mika`> oh! i haven't looked at prices lately.
[07:34] <vampire> its best not to use the ati drivers for linux just use the ones that installed when the os was installed
[07:35] <vampire> in ubuntu they always made the windows jump around like low frame rate looking when i moved the windows
[07:36] <AcidRain2012> was webmin ever deemed unsecure?
[07:36] <AcidRain2012> i forgot why i uninstalled it
[07:36] <TakeItEZ> !webmin
[07:36] <vampire> but the ones ubuntu uses look good but nvidias the way to go for linux
[07:36] <AcidRain2012> TakeItEZ: good god... uninstalling agian
[07:37] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: http://pastebin.com/4ideS6Fd
[07:37] <vampire> even the rain effect never works in compiz on ati but works always for nvidia
[07:37] <lbj_90> I get a 404 error when I run sudo apt-get update, can anyone help me in tracing the error? I have /etc/apt/sources.list open but I don't know what I should be editing...I can pastebin the output for anyone interested.
[07:37] <lbj_90> *a 404 error for a few ppas/repositories
[07:38] <dr_willis> ppas would be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:38] <dr_willis> find what one is failing and remove it
[07:38] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, i have seen random bugs before where the default rules will override the other rules, did you happen to set those all to allow and then test?
[07:38] <dr_willis> a 404 error is not fatal  so the ssytem should still work
[07:38] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, (in the default block)
[07:39] <vampire> a 404 errors a server not found error i think
[07:39] <lbj_90> I haven't been able to get past it. The error is for the java ppa which isn't listed in /etc/apt/.... oh lemme check list.d
[07:39] <AcidRain2012> lbj_90: sounds like your resources point to a bad server
[07:39] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: I did and the same effect
[07:39] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, how are you testing?
[07:39] <lbj_90> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found. Also another error for i-386 packages
[07:39] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: with an irc client named irssi
[07:40] <TheLordOfTime> lbj_90, you may want to be using a different PPA...
[07:40] <TheLordOfTime> !java > lbj_90
[07:41] <vampire> why do you even want java
[07:41] <dr_willis> !java
[07:41] <lbj_90> That's why I'm confused. I've never added a ppa for it
[07:41] <lbj_90> Or attempted to install java afaik
[07:41] <dr_willis> disable the ppa then
[07:43] <lbj_90> dr_willis I could be extremely dense tonight but I don't see it. apt-get shows where it failed and then shows it's final output so I don't know what URL I'm looking for :S
[07:43] <dr_willis> look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for a file containing that sun-java line
[07:43] <dr_willis> or use the software-sources tool
[07:44] <TakeItEZ> lbj_90: grep -ri sun-java /etc/apt/
[07:44] <dr_willis> software-sources, the other-software tab lists all my  PPA's
[07:44] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, i don't see anything wrong in the config, except for perhaps the directives as they're laid out in your home directory.  For the sake of testing, can you change the /home/user/.oidentd.conf "to" lines to just have the to [network] directive and remove the rest from the condition of reply?
[07:45] <lbj_90> Moment of clarity for me: I didn't realize list.d was a directory. I've been using nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <dr_willis> ive been saying /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  :)
[07:46] <lbj_90> dr_willis is the last slash a directory slash?
[07:46] <dr_willis> its a full path to the files.. correct
[07:46] <dr_willis> or... use the software sources gui tool.....
[07:46] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: could you show me an example?
[07:47] <SerenE_SparK> is there any way we can run a particular program as soon as a new flash drive is added
[07:47] <datruth> you just want me to have to <server> in my .oidentd.conf?
[07:47] <Guest84284> #join irc. linuxfromscratch. org
[07:47] <lbj_90> I've been teaching myself. I learn something new everyday and feel like an idiot when I learn painfully obvious things.
[07:48] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, i'm sorry, i'm a tad tired, hard to explain things... give me a moment
[07:49] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, like so: http://pastebin.com/CchPzA1F
[07:49] <lbj_90> Awesome thanks I can update from cli again!
[07:49] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, just for the sake of testing, of course, so save the old conf file :P
[07:50] <datruth> ok
[07:50] <subcool> sp3ck, thanks for helping me.
[07:50] <TakeItEZ> SerenE_SparK: you could create an udev rule, but to make sure a device is "new"(unknown) you have to track a database of already used devices
[07:50] <sp3ck> subcool, no p.
[07:51] <SerenE_SparK> TakeItEZ:i want to run the program if the device is already been used once
[07:51] <packetfrog> dr_willis Thank you. :)
[07:52] <sp3ck> subcool, endurance support :P
[07:52] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <packetfrog> fluxbox is on and working! :)
[07:52] <packetfrog> hello helmut
[07:55] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: same effect
[07:55] <datruth> ;/
[07:55] <guest-BPDWTv> hyi
[07:55] <TakeItEZ> SerenE_SparK: http://bit.ly/Do9Wv    as an example. you just would have to add a similar rule for every device you need
[07:55] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, not sure what to tell you, then, unfortunately...
[07:56] <Bauer> How do I setup autostart for skype in Ubuntu 13.04? I cant find the settings in gui, I'd rather not have to do chconfig or so
[07:56] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, because it should work as configured, but isn't.
[07:56] <TheLordOfTime> !ubuntu+1 | Bauer
[07:56] <FAIL35678> Help, my ubuntu 12.04 wont boot after using it yesterday and today it doesn't work for something reason, it is stuck at splash screen with 5 red dots
[07:57] <FAIL35678> Anyone able to help?
[07:57] <datruth> okies thanks for the help
[07:57] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: have you tried upgrading to 10.10? ;)
[07:58] <FAIL35678> you mean 12.10?
[07:58] <FAIL35678> nope, i am on 12.04
[07:58] <FAIL35678> i prefer to use LTS versions
[07:58] <ubuntu_girl_23> hello boys , after i upgraded to 12.04 i cannot login ,login screen splashes again, PLZZ help, tried chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME , reinstall lightdm ,nothing works :(
[07:58] <AcidRain2012> nah. i mean 10.10 lts
[07:58] <Malsasa> Hello, lintian gave me error message when building JAR: no-copyright-file but i have placed copyright file in pkg directory. Any advice?
[07:59] <ubuntu_girl_23> hello any1? , after i upgraded to 12.04 i cannot login ,login screen splashes again, PLZZ help, tried chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME , reinstall lightdm ,nothing works :(
[07:59] <FAIL35678> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669569/ my boot.log
[08:00] <ubuntu_girl_23> FATAL whats ur problem?
[08:01] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  make a new user. see if they can login correctly
[08:01] <FAIL35678> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669571/ dmesg.0
[08:01] <ubuntu_girl_23> dr_willis thanks already done it did not work
[08:01] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  if a newly made user has identical issues.. you got a bigger system issue then just ownership of  your home
[08:01] <cherrot> is anybody using rtl8188eu WLAN driver?
[08:01] <AcidRain2012> seems like FAIL35678and ubuntu_girl_23 are having similar issues with lightdm
[08:01] <FAIL35678> can that information help at all as it gets stuck at ubuntu splash screen with 5 red dots, not responding to any keys
[08:02] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  stop the gdm service (or lightdm) login at the console and see if 'startx' works. or gives an error message
[08:02] <AcidRain2012> cherrot: what is your issue?
[08:03] <cherrot> AcidRain2012: It seems that 8188eu has no official driver :(  I can only find this : https://github.com/Red54/linux-shumeipai2/tree/sunxi-3.0/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8188eu   however I don't know if it could work on 64bit ubuntu linux kernel
[08:03] <ubuntu_girl_23> dr_willis thanks for reply it gives me error "Failed to load session "ubuntu"
[08:03] <AcidRain2012> cherrot: im not sure... have you looking into the r8168 driver?
[08:04] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  install a differnt window manager/desktop and select it at the lightdm login screen, or try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop package then try login screen again
[08:04] <AcidRain2012> i have to use that on my laptop. the r8169 driver doesnt work
[08:04] <cherrot> AcidRain2012: in its Makefile I can find this line: CONFIG_PLATFORM_I386_PC = y. but no AMD64 configuration...
[08:04] <packetfrog> anyone use cairo-dock?
[08:05] <cherrot> AcidRain2012: no. There is drivers for rtl8188cu , but it does not work :(
[08:05] <FAIL35678> what i could do
[08:05] <FAIL35678> it does not respond to any keys, arrows, CTRL+ALT+F1 or anything
[08:06] <FAIL35678> is there anything i can do?
[08:07] <SerenE_SparK> How can we check if a new flash drive is inserted using java
[08:08] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: have you tried what dr_willis has said?
[08:08] <FAIL35678> stopping lightdm and login to console?
[08:08] <FAIL35678> you mean that?
[08:09] <AcidRain2012> yeah, you could try that. then startx
[08:09] <FAIL35678> CTRL+ALT+F1?
[08:09] <FAIL35678> is that the keys for that
[08:10] <FAIL35678> if yes, already tried, the system simply wont answer to any commands from keyboard, and the splash screen is stuck also so those dots arent going from red to white, they just keep red all time
[08:11] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: hang on
[08:11] <mika`> everytime i format a drive i'm going to get a new UUID?
[08:11] <rkhshm> error: ‘O_DIRECT’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:11] <rkhshm> see that error while include O_DIRECT any ideas?
[08:11] <rkhshm> i've added the heders and all but still it fails.
[08:12] <FAIL35678> what could be wrong, all was fine yesterday, i did shutdown it correct way and now not working
[08:12] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: it sounds like you managed to break x
[08:13] <FAIL35678> how, by shutting down my computer?
[08:13] <FAIL35678> can i repair it any way through live usb?
[08:14] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: you should be able to boot into console similar to that of windows
[08:14] <FAIL35678> how, by GRUB? i cannot open grub by pressing shift in that purple screen
[08:14] <sky770> hi all, need to know abt the current status on ubuntu for mobile dev preview release :|
[08:14] <dr_willis> mika`:  you can change the uuid if you really wanted to.. but uuids should be unique to each filesystem
[08:15] <AcidRain2012> sky770: i think they already have ubuntu on android devices
[08:15] <FAIL35678> so is there way to fix it through live usb
[08:15] <mika`> dr_willis,  i just formatted from a fat32 drive to a ext4 drive.   what if i format it to ext4 again, will it change again?
[08:15] <sky770> AcidRain2012: nope don't want that
[08:16] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: at this point im no longer any help. id try google
[08:16] <sky770> want to port to HTC series :D
[08:16] <dr_willis> mika`:  if its empty. why does it matter..
[08:16] <mika`> sky770,  umm, you know there is a ubuntu website that talks about ubuntu on android right?
[08:16] <dr_willis> mika`:  you can change the uuid with the tune2fs command
[08:16] <mika`> dr_ will cause of fstab
[08:16] <FAIL35678> i cannot find any help from google
[08:16] <dr_willis> mika`:  so change the fstab? ;)
[08:16] <sky770> hang on..fellas pulling up some links for you..of what I am asking for :D
[08:16] <mika`> i don't wanna change fstab everytime i format a usb key.
[08:17] <dr_willis> mika`:  normally you dont have USB keys/removeable media in fstab  unless you plan on keeping them plugged in always..
[08:17] <AcidRain2012> mika`: the uuid never changes....
[08:17] <TakeItEZ> mika`: every tme you "format" a drive, the UUID changes. so either don't use UUIDs in fstab or change fstab
[08:17] <dr_willis> mika`:  and you can set up fstab to mount based on Label if you wanted.
[08:17] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:18] <mika`> dr_willis,  i put them in fstab cause i want my one gigabyte drive to mount to /media/1 and my seagate ext. drive to mount to /media/seagate  and so on... that's why.
[08:18] <sky770> I don't want this: "Ubuntu for Android"  (http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android) but* I need to know the ETA (for dev. preview) of this: "Ubuntu for Mobile" (http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone)
[08:18] <dr_willis> using ext4 on removeable media - can have issues when used on other systems also.
[08:18] <sky770> err.. Ubuntu for phones*
[08:18] <dr_willis> mika`:  set a proper LABEL on the filesystem and thats what they will use as their mountpoint
[08:18] <mika`> ooh, maybe i will have to do fstab as label instead of uuid for these flash drives.
[08:18] <dr_willis> make the label  segate for the segate usb.. and so forth
[08:18] <cristian_c> I turned on the suspension, but when I resume not everything is as before
[08:18] <dr_willis> if you make a label.. then you wont even need a fstab entry
[08:18] <dr_willis> it will use its label as its mountpoint name
[08:19] <AcidRain2012> sky770: ... that seems to be the exact same thing. just different wording
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> sky770: it comes when it comes
[08:19] <mika`> easy way to set fstab to ident the drive by label instead of uuid?   or just replace UUID=58439834523223  with the word LABEL=whatever   ?
[08:19]  * sky770 *sighs* no wonder..a 1k+ users on a single IRC :|
[08:19] <dr_willis> mika`:  Set the label. and try it with out a fstab entry at all...
[08:19] <mika`> sky770,  only certain phones can do ubuntu. read the website.
[08:19] <sky770> AcidRain2012: nooo...whoa :O you gotta read the docs man
[08:20] <cristian_c> for example, the chromium browser is no longer opened
[08:20] <mika`> dr_willis,  i have all labels set. in fstab instead of UUID=  i can just change that to LABEL=   right?
[08:20] <dr_willis> I will belive in ubuntu on phones when i see it actually out. ;)
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> sky770: no one here works at canonical, therefore we can't confirm anything you want to know
[08:20] <dr_willis> mika`:  you gave the filesystem a label.. tne when you insert it.. it should mount to /media/username/label
[08:20] <sky770> yes..but what I am looking for is the native ground up ubuntu OS capable of being installed on android's hardware and not wrapped up and being installed inside* android OS* :|
[08:20] <sky770> :p
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> HEY SHUTTLEWORTH! some guy needs help
[08:20] <sky770> ^
[08:21] <mika`> dr_willis,  oooh, ok, i see waht you are saying now.   right on. there is no need for me to play with fstab now that i have used gparted to set proper labels.
[08:21] <cristian_c> If I launch it from terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: File or directory not found
[08:21]  * sky770 just wanting to know about the dev. preview ETA
[08:21] <dr_willis> mika`:  you got it
[08:21] <AcidRain2012> sky770: i see what your saying. but why? android and linux are similar in many ways
[08:21] <linux> d
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> sky770: the ground is the linux kernel
[08:21] <sky770> ^ yes effectively yes
[08:21] <cristian_c> that would be the output of the monitor, but I have no other information
[08:21]  * dr_willis is happy they got xbmc out for android now. ;)
[08:21] <sky770> but see its not the same thing
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> sky770: it is the same thing
[08:22] <dONALD> Hi people!
[08:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:22] <sky770> dr_willis 'ol nes :p
[08:22] <sky770> news*
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> sky770: the kernels are remerged
[08:22] <dONALD> is there a way to stop gthumb from changing the size of it's window?
[08:22]  * sky770 hides
[08:22] <sky770> later ~ :D
[08:22] <dONALD> I cold destroy that sh*t program I swear
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> dONALD: use a wm/de that overrides it's resize function?
[08:23] <dONALD> wm/de ?
[08:23] <dONALD> what is that?
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> window manager desktop environment
[08:23] <dONALD> and how do I do that?
[08:24] <AcidRain2012> dONALD: what i dont understand is why use gthumb instead of the default f-spot photo manager?
[08:24] <aeon-ltd> dONALD: you don't unless you want to stop using whatever you're using
[08:25] <dr_willis> compiz has a windows resize plugin thing
[08:26] <dONALD> what do you mean default?
[08:26] <dONALD> default in what? there is no such thing in linux as default
[08:26] <AcidRain2012> i mean that it comes preinstalled in ubuntu
[08:26] <AcidRain2012> yes...
[08:26] <dr_willis> the default photo app in ubuntu is f-spot
[08:27] <dONALD> I have xubuntu 12.04, gthumb is the preinstalled one
[08:27] <mika`> dONALD,  in linux, my laptop works by default.
[08:27] <dONALD> okay, never mind
[08:27] <AcidRain2012> like i said. upgrade to 10.10
[08:28] <mika`> reaver should come installed by default.
[08:28] <mika`> hah.
[08:28] <mika`> yaaaay for WPS.
[08:28]  * dr_willis makes a disrto called DefaultLinux
[08:28] <mika`> (but don't tell my neighbours.)
[08:29] <AcidRain2012> DefaultLinux will be available for every device
[08:29] <AcidRain2012> ever..
[08:29] <nydel> upgrade interrupted, current output of "uname -r" indicates 3.5.0-20, need 3.5.0-24/newest kernel ... "sudo apt-get -f install" halted at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-24-generic" - problems with grub.cfg generation seem to have resolved - fix attempts result usually in a call for "sudo dpkg --configure -a" which halts on the same line as "apt-get install" -- next step? please and thank you.
[08:30] <mika`> dr_willis,  will my usb drive formatted to ntfs mount without fuse by default in DefaultLinux?
[08:30] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:30] <vicsar> .
[08:30] <dr_willis> mika`:  ntfs-3g uses fuse....
[08:30] <mika`> crap.
[08:30] <AcidRain2012> why not do it by Default?
[08:30] <dr_willis> the default is it defaults...
[08:31] <AcidRain2012> im in
[08:31] <mika`> can we force the world to use ext4 by default?   get rid of ntfs and hfs? please doctor?
[08:31] <mika`> can gparted come installed by default? why is it on the live cd, but after install, it's not there...?
[08:31] <AcidRain2012> i heard computers were going to come with default linux
[08:32] <nydel> (bump) i am desperate. also savvy enough to be an easy ticket. please help.
[08:32] <dr_willis> theres lots of things on the cd not installed by default
[08:32] <mika`> they should come with a free OS by default.   then the usr can have the option to pay for something they don't need!
[08:32] <mika`> can your defaultlinux installation come with everything that comes by default on the live cd?
[08:33] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis:  also, i heard that win8 is making it as difficult as possible to install linux and other OS over windows. what does the DefaultLinux distro do to counterattack this?
[08:34] <dr_willis> dd does wonders.
[08:34] <AcidRain2012> dd?
[08:34] <mika`> he's talking about boobies.
[08:34] <mika`> tsk tsk
[08:34] <TakeItEZ> for non-support chcitchat there is #ubuntu-offtopic, by default
[08:34] <AcidRain2012> damn it willis get your head in the game. we gotta free the world
[08:35] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2012: nothing, signing for secure boot is possible with linux too
[08:35] <nydel> dr_willis: AcidRain2012: i know you two are rather savvy, may i trouble you for guidance please. i am 90% sure if system goes down it will not come back up.
[08:35] <AcidRain2012> aeon-ltd: so your telling me that linux is going to counter attack a windows closure by the same method?
[08:35] <mika`> i wonder if linux will get more popular in the next few years as every new computer buyer has to deal with winders 8, and hate it. then move to linux.
[08:35] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2012: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/linux-foundation-secure-boot/
[08:36] <dr_willis> nydel:  you can always boot from an earlier kernel from the grub menu if the current one goofs up
[08:36] <mika`> nydel,  what do you mean "if the system goes down' ?
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> mika`: it already is, android.
[08:36] <dr_willis> I rarely have to mess with apt or kernel issues.
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> *; not ,
[08:36] <nydel> mika`: if for any reason my system is shut down, i am not confident it will boot correctly.
[08:37] <mika`> nydel,  oooh. how'd you hurt the poor guy?
[08:37] <mika`> aeon-ltd,  even leo laporte is now recommending android due to crapple's closed-ness of everything. yaaaay.
[08:38] <AcidRain2012> aeon-ltd: i see what your saying. this is nice
[08:38] <nydel> mika`: dr_willis: i believe an ubuntu upgrade was interrupted by a cold shutdown
[08:38] <mika`> i heard on the news that they had chimps playing with ipads... shows how lame / simple / basic they are. a chimp can use the thing.
[08:38] <mika`> nydel,  did you try the upgrade again/
[08:38] <mika`> ?
[08:38] <mika`> that IS bad. i would re-do that whole OS if that happended to me and had issues afterwards.
[08:39] <nydel> mika`: dr_willis: -- if you would, see my first note, above, please?
[08:39] <mika`> that happened to me once with windows, it couldn't be fixed for me.
[08:39] <aeon-ltd> mika`: when the app stores merge, and a better screening program is made then android can compete properly
[08:40] <dr_willis> no idea of a proper fix for a shutdown during a upgrade.   you mean a release upgrade from 11.x to 12.x? or just a normal apt-get upgrade?
[08:40] <nydel> mika`: ubuntu would not boot after the incident. i dual-booted into windows, which upgraded while i was otherwise occupied, it rebooted automatically into ubuntu.
[08:40] <nydel> dr_willis: a kernel upgrade, i believe.
[08:40] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: could I force the to settings in the main oidentd.conf?
[08:40] <AcidRain2012> wow. ive had bad experience with a relese upgrade. scared to do it
[08:41] <nydel> dr_willis: i am watching "apt-get install" halted at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-24-generic"
[08:41] <mika`> hmm, so you were in windows, and windows update did some updates, then it auto-rebooted you, then now it booted to ubuntu by default (haha, i got to use that word legitimately)  and now you are worried that the windows is not going to boot ok?
[08:41] <dr_willis> you could try booting to an earlier kernel and purge/reinstalling the latest kernel
[08:42] <mika`> or am i confused nydel ?
[08:43] <mika`> nydel,  that doesn't sound so bad. at boot, just select your older kernel.
[08:43] <nydel> mika`: it always boots ubuntu default. wubi install. perhaps something about the windows update made the ubuntu install usable. i don't know, but i am in, using kernel 3.5.0-20
[08:43] <nydel> unfortunately i am unable to install or update any software
[08:43] <mika`> oooh wubi.  i know nothing aboot wubi.
[08:43] <nydel> as the system seems to want badly to upgrade the kernel
[08:44] <mika`> what's the point of wubi? why not just dual boot like the good ol days?
[08:44] <mika`> sudo system-config set i-am-the-boss --no-kernel-for-you
[08:44] <nydel> mika`: several years ago i installed a wubi on a pure whim, thinking i would play for an hour. i never booted back into windows.
[08:45] <mika`> hahaha. nice job nydel
[08:45] <mika`> time to take the leap to a normal install?
[08:45] <auronandace> nydel: why not make a proper install then?
[08:45] <nydel> after i am finished with this, i will be partitioning my drive and installing ubuntu properly, leaving windows just enough room to breathe through a straw
[08:45] <mika`> nydel,  i like to start with a clean install every year or so.
[08:45] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:46] <cellofellow> I have a laptop with built in USB webcam (04f2:b2b0 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd) that used to work fine but now it doesn't work at all except I can sort of get ffplay to display from it.
[08:46] <nydel> these are all wonderful points
[08:46] <AcidRain2012> u dont want windows nasty filesystem next to your linux. it may catch something from it
[08:46] <mika`> nydel,  be finished then. just get your data files (your music, whatever) offa there and wipe that mofo.
[08:46] <cellofellow> Used to beautifully work with Skype, and ideas on how to fix it?
[08:46] <vampire> ubuntu wont start after update i keep having to go to advanced start then the old version in the grub any ideas
[08:46] <AcidRain2012> mika`: imagine if you installed ex2fs program for windows and you were dual booting and a virus read your ext system and infected init.d to do annoying shit
[08:47] <AcidRain2012> things i mean
[08:47] <mika`> vampire,   are you a real vampire or you just love twilight too much?
[08:47] <nydel> i am surprised
[08:47] <nibbler__> vampire: just uninstall your latest kernel, so an older one gets default.
[08:47] <vampire> nah i just needed something different to identify me on the net work
[08:47] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  good point. i'm just not gonna install that ext reading program.
[08:47] <nibbler__> but there is a kernel update coming up, that is desireable for everyone :/
[08:47] <AcidRain2012> im happy i started the use of the term default so widely in this channel. win
[08:47] <nydel> not a person in here has any idea what to do when update-initramfs halts, or what causes it?
[08:48] <mika`> nydel,  luckily you don't have to care about your error as you are going to wipe that mofo soon anyway.
[08:48] <vampire> how nibbler
[08:48] <nibbler__> nydel: it runs several scripts, one of those might be broken. /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks or such
[08:48] <AcidRain2012> mika`: lol. id say its unlikely. but the idea is like taking a drink after someone who has aids. never knkow what could happen
[08:48] <nibbler__> vampire: with synaptic or apt-get remove
[08:48] <mika`> nydel,  just boot it with a live cd - get your data off it. and wipe it.
[08:49] <AcidRain2012> mika`: your saying just wipe the rim and its safe. lol. im saying pour a whole new glass with a whole new bottle
[08:49] <nydel> see, i have to fix it first. otherwise i haven't learned anything.
[08:49] <vampire> terminal or what
[08:49] <nydel> i either fix it or go down with the ship
[08:49] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  then again, how is my computer going to get a virus in the first place?  i'm savvy enough for that not to happen.
[08:49]  * cellofellow will ask again tomorrow
[08:49] <AcidRain2012> mika`: porn?
[08:49]  * cellofellow is tired
[08:49] <nydel> thank you nibbler__ there is a lot to look at here
[08:49] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:49] <vampire> i really dont like twighlight
[08:50] <mika`> nydel,  we are not here to learn things. no learning allowed in this channel.  sorry.  type !rules
[08:50] <vampire> skyrim though
[08:50] <AcidRain2012> vampire: you dont have to lie to be in here. we wont judge u
[08:50] <AcidRain2012> !rules
[08:50] <nydel> well thank you very kindly everyone, i appreciate your help. i'll be hanging around if anyone thinks of anything else.
[08:50] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  pron can't give you a virus, but yeah, a bad site can... who goes to pron sites though? just dl pron vids if you want em from irc...
[08:51] <mika`> nydel,  can't you just select your older kernel when grub shows you what it can boot?
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> lol. i run quite a large ftp that people upload to. you are more than welcome to add to it.
[08:51] <nydel> mika`: actually, clarify for me something -- my bootup menu is two items, Ubuntu & Windows 7
[08:51] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  you have a extra TB in that mofo?
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> mika`: well as far as windows goes, it rly depends on what type of services you use. such as msn messenger, yahoo, all that
[08:51] <nydel> is that perhaps not even grub?
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> mika`: yea :D
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:52] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  i could up ya some stuff....
[08:52] <AcidRain2012> actually thats prolly all i have left. only do like 10gigs if u do
[08:52] <vampire> hey nibbler how do i do this i need a walkthrough
[08:52] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  10 gigs would take a long time... i can only up at about 67KB/s
[08:52] <AcidRain2012> mika`: :/ rly?
[08:52] <AcidRain2012> who is your internet provider?
[08:53] <mika`> in canada it's called shaw (it's cable)
[08:53] <nibbler__> vampire: please nopaste the output of "aptitude search linux-image | grep ^i; uname -r"
[08:53] <AcidRain2012> dude, when the cable guy comes to hook up your internet, you need to tell him to take the trap off of it and you will fix all of his computers for life
[08:53] <mika`> dr_willis,  how do you list (or see if you have) an older kernel on your system that nydel can make grub boot to?
[08:53] <AcidRain2012> i did that, and he said if i brought him some business for people willing to pay a 1 time fee for cable, he would throw me 50$ on 200^
[08:54] <nydel> mika`: "sudo update-grub" lists the newest kernel along with those between my current kernel & the newest
[08:54] <mika`> talk in pm. they are gonna get mad at us in the chan.
[08:54] <nydel> do you suppose that if i reboot now it may fix?
[08:54] <nydel> note:
[08:55] <nydel> i have tried to install all the kernel packages through virtually every channel
[08:55] <nydel> using apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, dpkg, etc
[08:55] <vampire> whats aptitude
[08:55] <AcidRain2012> aptitude is same as apt-get now
[08:55] <vampire> i dont have it hold on ill figure it out
[08:55] <mika`> nydel,  can you paste me in a private message what that output of sudo update-grub    says?
[08:56] <AcidRain2012> can you tell me the output of del y | C:\sys32\
[08:56] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[08:57] <AcidRain2012> ... got quiet....
[08:57] <vampire> i installed aptitude
[08:57] <vampire> hope you dont hack me
[08:58] <auronandace> !aptitude | vampire
[08:58] <AcidRain2012> aptitude is a secure backdoor trojan similar to backorffice
[08:58] <AcidRain2012> nah jk. its good
[08:58] <auronandace> !joke
[08:58] <AcidRain2012> =(
[08:58] <vampire> i know he was joking
[08:59] <sky770> O_o
[08:59] <vampire> so should i type that into terminal still i installed aptitude
[08:59]  * sky770 zzzzZZZZZ
[08:59] <AcidRain2012> vampire: aptitude works just like apt-get
[09:00] <sky770> ^
[09:00] <AcidRain2012> so if you wanna install gimp....  sudo aptitude install gimp
[09:00] <superdo> hi, recommended *working* reminder app for ubuntu?
[09:00] <AcidRain2012> sudo apt-get gimp
[09:00] <nibbler__> vampire: just execute the command in the cli, no sudo required. it shows which kernels are installed, and which one you are running right now
[09:00] <sanav> i recently buy a Dell 15z inspiron ultrabook , please suggest me which linux is better (have good battery backup during run)
[09:01] <AcidRain2012> to say which linux is "better" would be wrong
[09:01] <auronandace> sanav: ##linux might have a less biased answer
[09:01] <sky770> sanav: you have to try them out first..pref in "live mode"
[09:01] <vampire> kernal number 3.5.0-17
[09:02] <vampire> and 3.5.0-23
[09:02] <sky770> in the world of linux sanav..there's nothing as "best" its just "compatible" :|
[09:02] <dr_willis> laptop makers never want to share the secrets of their windows drivers that squeeze out battery life.
[09:02] <sanav> sky770: i tried fedora 18 , but it just gave me 2.5 hour of backup
[09:02] <vampire> both 64 and generic
[09:02] <dr_willis> i doubt if any disrto will give you much better sanav
[09:03] <sky770> mostly its the brightness, chipset power management IMO dr_willis :D
[09:03] <vampire> what do i do next get it
[09:03] <dr_willis> newer kernels might be better...
[09:03] <nibbler__> vampire: the aptitude shows you what kernels oyu ahve, the uname -r shows you which you are running - just remove those "apt-get remove" taht you dont need, or that dont work
[09:03] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: id say we can look at how an android device functions when it gets below 15% battery life, and do the same thing on a linux laptop
[09:03] <dr_willis> i rarely let my android phone get below 30%
[09:03] <sky770> n that's why I asked for dev preview for "ubuntu for phones" :|
[09:03] <AcidRain2012> well true.
[09:04] <nibbler__> there is a lot you can do to fine-tune powerconsumption on laptops.... just google it for your model, and use the laptop-mode package iirc
[09:04] <dr_willis> Im not sure its even been released.
[09:04] <AcidRain2012> lol. sky770 u want me to install ubuntu on my phone real quick? :P
[09:04]  * sky770 is a flashing ROM's for the past 5-6 days now.. ask him abt batt life :p
[09:04] <sky770> nooo..not *inside* android :p
[09:04] <vampire> so i think it would be the newest one so would you know the exact thing i type in terminal
[09:04] <AcidRain2012> lol >_>
[09:05] <AcidRain2012> define "inside" android?
[09:05] <sky770> I want to have a look* (by looks means I want to have a file in my hands) at the dev. preview editio for ubuntu for phons.
[09:05] <sky770> AcidRain2012: wrapper*
[09:05] <sky770> no wrapping em up :p
[09:05] <sky770> as an app :D
[09:05] <AcidRain2012> so you are saying that a ROM is kinda like an app>
[09:05] <AcidRain2012> ?
[09:05] <sky770> nooo
[09:06] <sanav> i tried joli OS but , its totally internet based :(
[09:06] <dr_willis> sanav:  so? ;)
[09:06] <sky770> I meant..I want to install ubuntu's derivate for a phone just a ROM/OS and not install ubuntu os when I have already have android on  a phone (that'be installing ubuntu as an app inside android..much like a VM)
[09:06] <AcidRain2012> cause i have installed DroidX CyanogenMod on a pandigital with no phone service (it wasnt an option), but still had the dialer
[09:06] <vampire> it would be apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic
[09:06] <sky770> derivate == derivative*
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> sky770: there is no public beta or nightlies
[09:07] <sky770> ^ yep..I know. but I just read somewhere that..it'be available from 23st feb :D
[09:07] <sky770> 21st*
[09:07] <sanav> dr_willis: which OS you have on your laptop ?
[09:08] <AcidRain2012> ive installed ubuntu as a rom...
[09:08] <aeon-ltd> sky770: source?
[09:08] <AcidRain2012> still not sure i get what your saying
[09:08] <sky770> so..I thought there must be some hush-hush on the IRC
[09:08] <aeon-ltd> sky770: in a channel made for support?
[09:08] <sky770> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/ubuntu-phone-developer-preview-will-arrive-on-february-21st/
[09:08] <AcidRain2012> pfft. no admins man. party. say what u want
[09:08] <sky770> up on ars :D
[09:08] <sky770> maybe.. arse* :p
[09:09] <aeon-ltd> so uh why can't you wait 4 days?
[09:09] <sky770> :|
[09:09] <sky770> that's 24x4 hrs
[09:09] <neo84> Hi, I need help . I want to create my 12.04 laptop as wifi hotspot . For internet I have ZTE Modem. but when I click on USe as hotspot , it remains for some time and resets automatically. Help me fix this
[09:09] <sky770> nom..nom..
[09:09] <vampire> did a sudo hope it restarts
[09:10] <AcidRain2012> sky770: we have to create a time machine similar to the one seen in south park to get the first release of the wii by nintendo. but instead we will be aiming for ubuntu for android by canonical
[09:11]  * sky770 remembers..South-Park :D
[09:11] <sky770> brb..zzZZZ
[09:11] <vampire> hey nibbler im restarting if you all dont hear from me i have failed and cant load ubuntu lol
[09:12] <sanav> what is the average battery backup a linux can gave on window based laptop/netbook/*
[09:12] <AcidRain2012> lol. never see vampire again
[09:13] <nibbler__> good luck Vampire0_
[09:13] <nibbler__> or such.
[09:13] <sky770> dell inspiron n4010  i5 1.8~2.4Ghz, 6gig ddr3, linux mint 10 (yes I know its freakin 'ol :p ) == ~3hrs on just listening to music on banshee.
[09:14] <sky770> + youtube vid playback HD :D
[09:14] <vampire> im back it worked
[09:14] <sky770> so all in all..it fits well on my 2-3 yr ol laptop erm :|
[09:15] <sanav> sky770: is mint good for laptop ?
[09:15] <neo84>  Hi, I need help . I want to create my 12.04 laptop as wifi hotspot . For internet I have ZTE Modem. but when I click on USe as hotspot , it remains for some time and resets automatically. Help me fix this
[09:15] <sky770> oh yes..I more thing it has a ati5650m @1gig, using ati's proprietary binary driver (baawwww.. :p suck proprietary)
[09:16] <sanav> sky770:  is 12.04 good option ?
[09:16] <sanav> sky770: ubuntu 12.04
[09:16] <sky770> sanav: I already told ya bro...you gotta try a a *distribution* before juding it..as its the hardware compatibility which counts and then offcourse other things: battery life? (tweak it!), perf? (tweak some more) :D
[09:17] <sanav> sky770: ok
[09:17] <vampire> nibbler you stil there
[09:17] <nibbler__> i am, but if you don't tag-complete my name, i hardly ever see you speaking to me
[09:17] <sky770> try both of them in Live mode (just download the image, make a live usb-drive out of it/burn a dvd..pop it in..n try it in "Live Mode" i.e. it won't install on your hard drive but just load in RAM
[09:18] <AcidRain2012> is that how it works? ;)
[09:18] <vampire> ok i dont know how but what if i want to do another upgrade should i wait till a new one instead of 23
[09:18] <sanav> sky770: thanks man ...hope i ound my distro ;/
[09:18] <sky770> for newbies..Linux mint is #1 (and yes if yer wondering..its based off Ubuntu :D)
[09:19] <sky770> sanav: np bro../anytime
[09:19] <AcidRain2012> ahhhhh now see there. i disagree
[09:19] <AcidRain2012> what is mint's default desktop environment?
[09:19] <abc_harold> Everyone's idle on #ubuntu-steam so can here help? I'm having trouble just installing Steam (64-bit) on Ubuntu 12.10. Any ideas?
[09:19]  * sky770 pfftt AcidRain2012.. time for an upgrade to "AcidRain *2013* " ? :P u 'ol man
[09:20] <dr_willis> #1? never noticed...
[09:20] <AcidRain2012> sky770: >_> yea was rly counting on the world to end then... lol jk
[09:20]  * sky770 : FYI: I would prefer using Mint with cinnamon
[09:20] <dr_willis> abc_harold:  state what the problem is we can see if we can help
[09:21] <AcidRain2013> sky770: man i just really really enjoy the gnome2 desktop
[09:21] <sky770> dr_willis: u gotta be kidding me? right? (http://distrowatch.com/) see POLL on HPR (hits per page ranking)
[09:21] <AcidRain2013> i tried cinnamon under ubuntu studio. it was straight.
[09:21] <dr_willis> people overlook all the issues gnome2 had..
[09:21] <vampire> hey acid rain why do we need emotion for artificial intelligence
[09:21] <sky770> POLL on right side top side of the page
[09:21] <dr_willis> sky770:  its been mentioned that the disrto watch 'ranking' means absoultly nothing....
[09:21] <sky770> yes..
[09:22] <abc_harold> I can't install Steam (64-bit) on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10, I get an error about dependencies (steam64: Depends: steam (= 1.0.0.27ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed)
[09:22] <sky770> but still it does reflect the  confidence of the community
[09:22] <dr_willis> sky770:  it reflects nothing other then clicks on a link...
[09:22] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: what issues does gnome2 have?
[09:22] <dr_willis> this was covered in detail about 9 mo ago.
[09:22] <sky770> and AFAIK, dr_willis you should rad more often :D
[09:22] <sky770> rad == read*
[09:22] <AcidRain2013> sky770: based off what you are saying is the "best", u are saying windows os is better than linux because more people use it
[09:22] <sky770> ubuntu was done when it introduced amazon :|
[09:23]  * sky770 hates corp stuff
[09:23] <sky770> whoa..M$ is bullshiz
[09:23] <dr_willis> AcidRain2013:  old grandfathered in code.  lack of customization features and so on.. the Gnome-devs  went on about it when   they anounced gnome-shell
[09:23] <barbywannaplay> f
[09:23] <AcidRain2013> sky770: that poll is bullshiz lol
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> !ot
[09:23]  * sky770 can't help here..am srry am a /.
[09:23] <dr_willis> sky770:  i did read.. there was a lot of blog sites about how the disrtowatch site numbers ment nothing.
[09:24] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: eh.... i cant say i know what you mean. i feel llike i can fully customize my gnome2
[09:24] <dr_willis> and were being  blogged to death because there was nothing better to report.
[09:24]  * sky770 won't discuss that here..
[09:24] <dr_willis> AcidRain2013:  try to set your screensaver options.
[09:24] <aeon-ltd> you keep staying on the format of gnome2 you'll never be able to make real changes to UX, imo win 7 like desktops have reached their limit any further developments would only increase efficiency. at this point 10x better is easier to achieve than 10% better
[09:24] <dr_willis> but gnome2 is dead.. so its not worth debateing
[09:24] <ubuntu_girl_23> hi boys ,12.04 login doesnt work, even when i have installed gdm, it says "Failed to load session"ubuntu" , there were errors during installation of gdm WARNING: node <gettext_domain> not understood below <schema>
[09:24] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: what about them?
[09:25] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: i mean im curious. if something is messed up with my gnome2, i wanna know about it
[09:25] <sky770> gnome 2 might be dead..but there is MATE
[09:25] <sky770> its fork*
[09:25] <sky770> later~
[09:25] <dr_willis> AcidRain2013:  not really ontopic for here..  the gnome devs and sites mention thevarious reasons.
[09:25] <ubuntu_girl_23> AcidRain2013 what is the problem u r faving?
[09:26] <AcidRain2013> ubuntu_girl_23: im actually having no problem at all. was going to see if i could assist dr_willis in a possible gnome problem ;p
[09:26] <sky770> ^
[09:26] <AcidRain2013> i tried MATE as well. i believe its the best after gnome2
[09:26] <sky770> :D
[09:26]  * sky770 << he keeps coming back.. :p
[09:26] <sky770> am go for Cinnamon
[09:26] <ubuntu_girl_23> oh AcidRain2013 dr_willis suggested me to install gdm but i am still unable to login  "Failed to load session"ubuntu" , there were errors during installation of gdm WARNING: node <gettext_domain> not understood below <schema>
[09:27] <sky770> gdm?
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> lightdm
[09:27] <sky770> zzzZZ
[09:27] <ubuntu_girl_23> gnome desktop manager i guess sky770 , i replace lightdm
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> ubuntu_girl_23: did you have unity>
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> ?
[09:27] <sky770> yes I know what gdm stands for :p
[09:27] <ubuntu_girl_23> yes AcidRain2013
[09:27] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  i suggested trying to install some other desktops.. like jwm, or  lubuntu/lxde to see if those sessions worked..
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> ubuntu_girl_23: try sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[09:28]  * sky770 pulls his head out..and cries outloud: "is the OP/admin back in here"?
[09:29] <Ronalds_M> I'm sucessfully combining kde, unity and xfce
[09:29] <Ronalds_M> and gnome ofcourse
[09:29] <ubuntu_girl_23> AcidRain2013 dr_willis thanks i will reboot and try . Q: i think this schema error is causing problem, WARNING: node <gettext_domain> not understood below <schema> ,how can i fix it?
[09:29] <Ronalds_M> but I'm on precise, can I get newest gnome?
[09:29] <sky770> ronalds_m have you named your new invention?
[09:29] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: i believe u disagree with my opinion that because winVista came out with its ugly "flashy cool" desktop that gnome's unity felt it had to do the same thing to hang with the times. but really, they didnt realize that they were following in the footsteps of failure. thus the building upon MATE, cinnamon, and several others really got into development
[09:29] <sky770> :D
[09:30] <Ronalds_M> it's something like gnome 2, but with apps of qt
[09:30] <dr_willis> mate and cinnamon will die out rather quickly i imagine when the  next gnome shwll gets here that has a classic look theme.
[09:30] <AcidRain2013> Ronalds_M: now thats what im talking about
[09:30] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2013: wut? if anything developments in compiz were to match vista not the unity interface
[09:31] <dr_willis> Ronalds_M:  theres ppa's out for the latest gnome-shell if thats what you want
[09:31] <Ronalds_M> yes
[09:31] <Ronalds_M> that could be nice
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> well im not saying that any others would last longer than the other. im just saying... simplicity. keep it simple stupid. kiss
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> that whole thing
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2013: use arch?
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> never used arch
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> they say the same thing there
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> used just about everything but arch
[09:32] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2013: absolute simplicity, one program one purpose.
[09:32] <Ronalds_M> Arch is interesting but it takes some time to practice, although I don't like the idea of rolling release
[09:32] <AcidRain2013> lol. math teacher used to say that back in the day
[09:32] <dr_willis> thats often not a good thing.
[09:32] <vampire> use dsl linux that os has everything
[09:32] <dr_willis> Tiny Core Linux. ;)
[09:33] <Ronalds_M> tiny core, is it  burnable on one cd?
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> yes
[09:33] <dr_willis> its 35mb for the HUGE version of it.. ;P
[09:34] <vampire> dsl linux really doesn't have nothing
[09:35] <epzeal> hello, does anyone know "ubuntu phone" will run on a Nokia N900 ?
[09:36] <Gustav_> when i start Ubuntu and chose one of the settings it says: "/casper/vmlinuz: not found or" something like that. i have got ubuntu on a USB drive, i use this USB creator: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/  could somone please help me?  sorry for bad spelling, i am Norwegian :P
[09:36] <bekks> epzeal: NO need to ask twice after already have been answered in #ubuntu-de
[09:36] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  sounds like that tool dident put the iso on the usb correctly. You may want to try some of the other tools at the pendrivelinux web site
[09:36] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  what ubuntu release did you try to put on the USB?
[09:37] <Gustav_> 12.04
[09:37] <Ronalds_M> if arm kernels will be better with some intel arms, then mobile processing with ubuntu would be more greater
[09:37] <dr_willis> desktop or server?
[09:37] <vampire> use unetbootin
[09:37] <Gustav_> i used the program Ubuntu recomended
[09:37] <vampire> gustav use unetbootin
[09:37] <Ronalds_M> but I think N900 is too low
[09:37] <vampire> it puts linux onto usb
[09:37] <Gustav_> ok
[09:38] <vampire> it works ive used it
[09:38] <vampire> it didn't go on right like he said
[09:38] <dr_willis> theres dozens of such tools  - ive had unetbootin fail befor.. and other tools work
[09:38] <Ramesh1979in> Hi Experts, i am having problem in my server and i am new to linux, i need assistance....It`s urgent
[09:38] <dr_willis> be sure your iso file is correct also
[09:38] <dr_willis> !md5
[09:38] <echohiccups> hello
[09:38] <vampire> make sure you set aside space for file movement like 230 mb
[09:39] <vampire> theres an option
[09:39] <echohiccups> yes
[09:39] <Gustav_> i put it to max with the other program .P
[09:39] <Ramesh1979in> mdadm --detail /dev/md0 is showing some degraded state
[09:39] <Gustav_> :P*
[09:39] <echohiccups> 奶奶的
[09:39] <Gustav_> bye, and Thx for the help
[09:40] <Ramesh1979in> anyone is there to help me
[09:40] <vampire> bye
[09:40] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: and what is your question?
[09:41] <Ramesh1979in> Hi Iceroot, i am having problem in some disk or ??
[09:41] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: yes
[09:42] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: it does not mean the disc is broken but one disc is not active in the array at the moment
[09:42] <Ramesh1979in> which to get which disk is faulty??
[09:42] <iceroot> !raid | Ramesh1979in
[09:42] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: mdadm is showing it already [U_] means the second disc is faulty, [_U] means the first disc is faulty
[09:42] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: read the first link from ubottu
[09:43] <Ronalds_M> what's most interesting, you can theme kde apps now with ambiance theme
[09:43] <Ramesh1979in> 0       8        1        0      active sync   /dev/sda1
[09:43] <Ronalds_M> found this on omg ubuntu last night
[09:43] <Ramesh1979in> 1       0        0        1      removed
[09:44] <Ramesh1979in> State : clean, degraded
[09:46] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: cat /proc/mdstat
[09:53] <vampire> how to install amd drivers
[09:53] <vampire> ubuntu12.10
[09:53] <iceroot> !amd | vampire
[09:53] <vampire> yeah
[09:53] <iceroot> !ati | vampire
[09:54] <vampire> do you know how ubottu
[09:54] <vampire> are you a robot
[09:54] <iceroot> vampire: read the link from ubottu
[09:54] <vampire> ok
[09:55] <vampire> but is he a robot how does he provide the links so fast
[09:56] <akshayr> how to increase the font size in libre ??
[09:56] <iceroot> vampire: yes she is a bot
[09:57] <Malsasa> Hello all, how can I make my DEB package installable in system and appear in menu? Is there any tutorial?
[09:58] <dr_willis> there should be tons of guides on making deb packages.
[09:58] <bekks> Malsasa: Which deb?
[09:58] <dr_willis> as for the menus.. you have it install a proper whatever.desktop file
[09:58] <vampire> If you encounter bugs with these closed-source drivers, developers will not be able or even willing to assist you in resolving your issues. Use at your own risk.
[09:58] <Kentrel> Hey guys. I have Sleep options available, but if I use it and then come back I have to reboot to get it back again
[09:58] <Kentrel> How do I fix this?
[09:58] <Malsasa> bekks: i package my JAR into a DEB.
[09:58] <vampire> if i do it can i go back
[09:59] <iceroot> vampire: yes
[09:59] <vampire> you will help
[09:59] <bekks> Malsasa: And did you incorporate a starter into the menu, etc.?
[09:59] <iceroot> vampire: they are just not maintained from ubuntu itself so we cant support/change the drivers
[09:59] <Malsasa> dr_willis: yes, but i don;t know whickh tutorial for making installable into Ubuntu menu...
[09:59] <Malsasa> bekks: yes
[09:59] <vampire> ok
[09:59] <Malsasa> bekks: any tutorial, Mr. bekks?
[09:59] <dr_willis> Malsasa:  look at the existing whatever.desktop files - use them as a template.
[09:59] <bekks> Malsasa: So you created a postinst script, for doing it?
[09:59] <dr_willis> Malsasa:  for example gedit.desktop
[10:00] <Malsasa> dr_willis: okay, okay! Thank you...
[10:00] <Malsasa> bekks: no, i have not doing that
[10:00] <Malsasa> dr_willis: where should i place the *.desktop file?
[10:00] <dr_willis> for some java apps. ive see where you have to use a bash script that cds to there the jar is at . then runs the java app.. some dont like it when ran from a differnt directory
[10:01] <dr_willis> Malsasa:  'locate gedit.desktop'   same as where that is :) with all the 1000's of .desktop files
[10:01] <Malsasa> dr_willis: yes, my bash works, but my DEB is not install into menu.
[10:01] <Malsasa> dr_willis: wow, thank you for the guide...
[10:01] <dr_willis> you put the .desktp file on the system and  they all get scanned/added to the menus.. thats how it works
[10:02] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. look at existing .deb packages and 'borrow' the  layout. ;P
[10:03] <Malsasa> dr_willis: wow, excellent guide, clever ways... thank you...
[10:04] <vampire> that article was bunk all i had to do was type fglrx in the search bar and install additional drivers
[10:05] <dr_willis> all ive ever needed to do was use the addational-drivers tool. ;)
[10:06] <dr_willis> i did notice today that TF2 on steam ran decently well with the noveau drivers.. which suprised me.
[10:06] <vampire> trine 2 looks weird with the open source drivers
[10:07] <JennyBlueBird> dunno if this is the right place but, are ATI drivers useable for gaming these days, or is it still nVidia if you want to do any gaming ?
[10:07] <JennyBlueBird> My old card literally just died, so I'm pondering what to get
[10:07] <vampire> get nvidia
[10:07] <dr_willis> ive noticed that some of the Humble bundle games i own do are not on steam. ;(
[10:07] <vampire> hold on ill let you know right now
[10:07] <vampire> jenny hold on a sec
[10:08] <vampire> im installing the ati drivers right now for a hd 6850
[10:08] <vampire> driver install failed ill try the bottom one
[10:09] <vampire> are you there jenny
[10:10] <JennyBlueBird> vampire, yea
[10:10] <JennyBlueBird> Normally i would just go get an nVidia, but seeing how my current one seems to have just died on me ...
[10:10] <vampire> well i just tryed to install my drivers for amd using the additional drivers app and it failed
[10:11] <wood> ciao
[10:11] <vampire> i have a 6850 and the regular drivers trine 2 video game looked all messed up and played slow
[10:11] <vampire> so just do nvidia
[10:12] <ubuntu_girl_23> hi boys i 12.04 unable to login , tried everything, i think problem is with gnome-session-common  it is failing to install http://pastebin.ca/2314694 line 848
[10:12] <JennyBlueBird> yea, I thought as much
[10:12] <JennyBlueBird> dunno why ATI can't get their act together
[10:12] <dr_willis> they dont want to..
[10:12] <vampire> really it would be nice if they had it on there web site
[10:12] <dr_willis> of course amd/ati - seem to be having a bit of a hard time of late.
[10:13] <JennyBlueBird> question is then what card to get
[10:13] <vampire> well they had what they called the driver and it was a big file
[10:13] <dr_willis> I stick with older nvidia cards.. ones that havbe been out for like a year.. and are at the good power/price ratio
[10:13] <vampire> text file
[10:13] <bekks> vampire: A driver is never a text file.
[10:14] <vampire> look at the amd linux driver
[10:14] <vampire> it was a big text file
[10:14] <dr_willis> shold be somthing.run
[10:14] <dr_willis> save it to a file.. via right click. ;)
[10:14] <JennyBlueBird> oh wait a sec
[10:15] <JennyBlueBird> my on-board card is an nvidia
[10:15] <JennyBlueBird> probably a bad idea to put an ATI card in then
[10:15] <dr_willis> do you really need  the ati card. ;)
[10:16] <JennyBlueBird> well the on-board nVidia one is not very fast
[10:16] <vampire> it probably wasn't a text file on the amd website but it opened with gedit by default
[10:17] <vampire> what am i supposed to do with that
[10:17] <JennyBlueBird> but I think it's probably a poor idea to go and put an ATI card in a motherboard made for nVidia
[10:17] <dr_willis> you should of had it download.. not open..
[10:17] <vampire> oh wait ill try it
[10:17] <xboxlinux> im making a script so i and get teamviewer for the interent then cli to install it and finally make it a start up menu...  but i idk how. to do this.
[10:18] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  make a .desktop file that runs the script.. look at gedit.desktop for an example
[10:18] <xboxlinux> huh?
[10:18] <dr_willis> make a .desktop file like gedit.desktop that runs your script....
[10:19] <vampire> actually it was a zip file
[10:19] <xboxlinux> ok , doc im still at this project ,
[10:19] <ejv> im just impressed dr_willis even understood you
[10:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:19] <dr_willis> and i thought it was such a clear answer
[10:19] <ejv> wonders never cease.
[10:19] <vampire> so its a .run file
[10:20] <vampire> does that mean anything
[10:20] <dr_willis> you run it...
[10:20] <xboxlinux> ejv you try to fuck with thins and then get up for work and then got to deal with family .. and do wihth no sleep.. then you end up like me.
[10:20] <wellsj> If I just installed ubuntu on my mac, how do I get the network drivers without an ethernet connection available?
[10:20] <dr_willis> chmod +x foo.run, close out X. then you have to run it wuth root rights.
[10:20] <vampire> it just opens with gedit by default and crashes gedit
[10:20] <dr_willis> you DONT double click on it
[10:20] <vampire> good job amd
[10:20] <ejv> O_o
[10:20] <dr_willis> you save it.. make it executable.. then RUN it.. hence the .run extension
[10:21] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  is cool and i thank him over and over for his help.
[10:21] <bekks> vampire: BAsically, a file extension means NOTHING. And the driver ships installation instructions which do NOT tell you to just double click on it.
[10:21] <vampire> how do i make it an executable
[10:22] <bekks> vampire: You dont need to make it executable.
[10:22] <bekks> vampire: AND you should read the the install instructions before executing it.
[10:22] <vampire> there are none
[10:22] <bekks> There are.
[10:22] <bekks> Why dont you just use the nvidia driver from the repos?
[10:22] <dr_willis> and theres no guarantees that .run thing will work
[10:22] <dr_willis> I thought he was using ati? ;)
[10:23] <vampire> im using amd
[10:23] <dr_willis> so whats the name of the file you downloaded?
[10:23] <vampire> .run
[10:23] <dr_willis> NAME... not extension
[10:23] <vampire> /home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[10:23] <bekks> Thats AMD, not nvidia. :)
[10:24] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  how do i script ,so it downloads  the package. what do i use?
[10:24] <vampire> yeah because the addition drivers wont work
[10:24] <bekks> vampire: specify "dont work" please.
[10:24] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  huh?   make a script with lines like 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[10:24] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  with lines for each package you want to install
[10:24] <vampire> wont install error
[10:24] <xboxlinux> dr_willis, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[10:25] <bekks> vampire: "wont install" - specify it.
[10:25] <bekks> !details | vampire
[10:25] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  i hve no idea whats needed to install teamviewer. dowload it then install the .deb i guess.. with wget and dpkg -i
[10:25] <bekks> vampire: "dont work" is too unspecific to be usefull for helping.
[10:25] <vampire> nevermind
[10:26] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  wget ? so i need to install that before everything?
[10:26] <dr_willis> for a .run file you normally stop X (sudo service lightdm stop) then using the console run the .run file as root..   sudo  sh /path/to/the/whatever.run
[10:27] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  i dont know the details of what you are doing.. If you want to script a download. you normally use wget or curl
[10:27] <vampire> oh cool
[10:27] <vampire> ill try it
[10:27] <Magellan> vampire: try command #bash /home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run --install
[10:27] <dr_willis> and im pretty sure this is documented ;)
[10:27] <vampire> all right
[10:27] <vampire>  hold on
[10:28] <JennyBlueBird> nghhh
[10:28] <dr_willis> and most likely you must have X closed out befor you install the drivers..  unless they have done some changes recently
[10:28] <JennyBlueBird> how much video memory is decent for modern games ?
[10:28] <vampire> i think i just had a stroke but hold on
[10:28] <bekks> JennyBlueBird: Depends on the game.
[10:28] <vampire> i can still function
[10:28] <dr_willis> JennyBlueBird:  it seems rare to even find a video card with less then 512mb these days
[10:28] <SolarisBoy> the installation instructions for AMD linux drivers arent on the vendor site (just wondering)
[10:28] <vampire> not even joking
[10:29] <vampire> i m allright
[10:29] <vampire> dont worry
[10:29] <xboxlinux> oh ok, not sure what this is i hear of wget  ..  teamveiw state that i need the .rmp package  first  then deal with zip, then  install.
[10:29] <vampire> i got hella dizzy and the room shifted
[10:29] <Magellan> Vampire: Your dont need to close your x window just input the command i give in the terminal. im installing that driver since version 10. it will open a wizard that will install amd driver just click an go..
[10:29] <cfhowlett> xboxlinux, .rpm is a redhat package, not a .deb package ...
[10:29] <Magellan> Vampire: when finish it will restart so that you can use the newly installed amd driver.
[10:30] <vampire> i will i just need a sec
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> maybe you have vertigo
[10:31] <rjx1> any one tell me power decreasing problem in ubuntu 12.10
[10:31] <vampire> i have something
[10:32] <dr_willis> !teamviewer
[10:32] <elky> vampire, health is more important than computers
[10:32] <captine> hi all.  i tried KDE on ubuntu 12.04 and now want unity.  got back into it, but the login screen looks strange and some things just seem to be kde mixed with unity.  any suggestion
[10:33] <dr_willis> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx  has deb packages
[10:33] <rjx1> am trying to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 12.10 but not install
[10:33] <vampire> it just did this
[10:33] <vampire> vampire@vampire-H61MGC:~$ #bash/home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run --install
[10:33] <vampire> vampire@vampire-H61MGC:~$
[10:33] <cfhowlett> captine, i take it you installed the kubuntu-desktop ... or just kde???
[10:34] <vampire> nothing
[10:34] <captine> cfhowlett  kubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <JennyBlueBird> ah, here we go
[10:34] <sahil> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: file not found   Is this  a serious error i am geting thing while doing sudo update-grub
[10:34] <JennyBlueBird> the GTX 630 seems to be better than my old card, but consumes about 25% less power
[10:34] <JennyBlueBird> should stop the damn thing overheating
[10:34] <bekks> vampire: How about doing as you have been told then? "sh filename --install" ...?
[10:34] <xboxlinux> cfhowlett,  thanks .. i am on a old  1998 ish moniter ,the print is so small. i miss the other stuff.
[10:34] <vampire> its ok ill play my games on windows the xscreensavers work
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !pure|captine, so you all kinds of goodies along with kubuntu.  no worries.
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu
[10:35] <dr_willis> you missed a space btween the bash and the path to the .run  ;)
[10:35] <cfhowlett> captine, see the link above
[10:37] <vampire> bekks knows all remember that
[10:37] <vampire> it works bekk i must have missed what you said sorry
[10:38] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  lol right (space).rpm
[10:38] <bekks> vampire: As dr_willis already said you just missed a space charecter.
[10:38] <vampire> oh i missed a space
[10:38] <bekks> Yes, you did.
[10:38] <vampire> well it would have worked both ways i guess
[10:38] <bekks> No.
[10:39] <vampire> i learn something new everyday
[10:39] <bekks> That missing space is a breaker. :)
[10:39] <dr_willis> you dont smush commands with their arguments.. ;)
[10:39] <dr_willis> spaces matter,,
[10:39] <dr_willis> bash syntax matters.
[10:39] <dr_willis> Case matters. ;)
[10:41] <vampire> so a amd installer window gui popped up when i ran it but the installer said im missing some tools
[10:42] <bekks> Then you have to install those tools.
[10:42] <vampire> didn't say which ones
[10:42] <vampire> i could have told it that i was missing some tools
[10:42] <bekks> !details|vampire
[10:42] <bekks> vampire: Please dont expect us to guess your error message.
[10:43] <ripthejacker> anyone here use a scanner?
[10:44] <ripthejacker> i use xsane but i cannot autoselect the are to be scanned
[10:45] <ripthejacker> please help
[10:48] <arunkumar413> hi, how to load the correct sound driver and kernel driver  for my laptop sound card
[10:50] <psychoactive> arunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:50] <psychoactive> ?
[10:50] <psychoactive> :)
[10:51] <vampire> i downloaded the amd drivers from amd website im using ubuntu 12.10 what i downloaded was a .run file named /home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run when i ran it a window popped up like the installer from windows 7 for amd graphics card i push the continue button it says one or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system install the required tools before installing the fglrx d
[10:51] <vampire> river. optionally, run the installer with --force options to install without the tools forcing install will disable amd hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. not recommended se usr/sahre/ati/fglrx-install.log for more details
[10:51] <vampire> i go to the log it says Supported adapter detected.
[10:51] <vampire> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[10:51] <vampire> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[10:51] <vampire> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[10:51] <vampire> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[10:51] <FloodBot1> vampire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <vampire> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[10:51] <ripthejacker> any good scanning software that has autoscrop option
[10:51] <arunkumar413> psychoactive: tried that it's not working
[10:51] <ripthejacker> *autocrop
[10:51] <bekks> vampire: Give us the FULL OUTPUT you get when running that file. Thats all we need. :)
[10:51] <vampire> hold on
[10:52] <vampire> can you here me i was flood botted right now
[10:52] <bekks> And the message you get tells you that you at least are missing the headers for your running kernel.
[10:52] <vampire> Supported adapter detected.
[10:52] <vampire> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[10:52] <vampire> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[10:52] <vampire> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[10:52] <vampire> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[10:52] <FloodBot1> vampire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> vampire, yes we see you ... consider using pastebin to avoid triggering the floodboot
[10:52] <vampire> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !paste|vampire,   dude.  really?
[10:54] <TakeItEZ> vampire: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:54] <bekks> vampire: Last comment from my side: you have been TOLD that there is no guarantuee that the closed source driver will even work on your system. So it is ENTIRELY your decision wether you want to install it or not.
[10:55] <bogor> when a binary file is accedently opened then my ssh command line display goes bad. How do i reset the display back. I used clear command and it doesn't help
[10:55] <quilmes> hi everyone!
[10:55] <bekks> bogor: "clear; reset"
[10:55] <TakeItEZ> bogor: "reset" type blidnly
[10:56] <arunkumar413> psychoactive: the audio device is amd but the kernel module that is driving is an intel http://paste.ubuntu.com/1670089/
[10:56] <quilmes> I am trying to install Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7 to my Ubuntu 12.04.1. But I get this error: dependency is not satisfiable libfribidi-bin. Can somebody help me please. Thank you.
[10:56] <bogor> Thanks bekks , TakeItEZ , so the key is reset command.
[10:56] <Magellan> vampire, try what TakeItEZ told install that package and try again the *.run file
[10:56] <bekks> arunkumar413: Intel does not drive AMD hardware. :) Why do you think it does?
[10:57] <vampire> i just did but i didn't restart afterwards and it does the same thing
[10:57] <vampire> should i restart now
[10:57] <bekks> vampire: No. You should READ what people are telling you.
[10:57] <arunkumar413> bekks: then why does the lspci show snd-hda-intel
[10:57] <vampire> i just tryed what take it ez said im not playing around
[10:58] <xboxlinux> !teamviewer
[10:58] <Magellan> vampire, need t restart if the installation complete and says you need to restart..then procedd to restart
[10:58]  * cfhowlett ... thinks that if I push enough buttons and enter enough commands, that'll fix it!
[10:58] <Magellan> vampire, if not then don't restart
[10:58] <bekks> arunkumar413: We dont know that output...
[10:58] <arunkumar413> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1670089/
[10:59] <quilmes> I am trying to install Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7 to my Ubuntu 12.04.1. But I get this error: dependency is not satisfiable libfribidi-bin. Can somebody help me please. Thank you.
[10:59] <bogor> What is the alernative to "alt+1" in irssi. I tried logging in with ssh client in google chrome. Now when i try to do alt+1, google chrome captures it and the irssi never gets to see it.
[10:59] <captine> cfhowlett, thanks.  it is busy running
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> bogor: esc 1
[10:59] <xboxlinux> how do i talk to the bot.. been to long.  like !teamviewer|xboxlinx
[11:00] <jack43> Hello, I am following this tutorial, but when I try to log in as deployer I get "ssh: connect to host 555.55.555.55 port 22: Connection refused" (http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/)
[11:00] <jack43> Any ideas?
[11:00] <bogor> TakeItEZ: thanks, you are awesome
[11:00] <cfhowlett> captine, no worries.  for future reference, KDE is the desktop environment minus the apps and ubuntu custom artwork.  also see lxde, xfce
[11:01] <xboxlinux> jack43,  rotuer config to allow the traffic?
[11:01] <bekks> jack43: Thats an invalid IP address. And the host is refusing ssh connections on port 22.
[11:03] <jack43> bekks: That's just an example IP, I input my real IP
[11:03] <bekks> jack43: The target system does not accept ssh connections on port 22.
[11:03] <TakeItEZ> jack43: on server: "sudo lsof -i :22"
[11:04] <jack43> TakeItEZ: I can't get back into the remote server when  I type 'ssh deployer@<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <Vinc3nD> Hello ppl
[11:04] <bekks> jack43: The target system does not accept ssh connections on port 22.
[11:05] <TakeItEZ> jack43: nmap -p22 server
[11:05] <broknbottle> netstat -tulnp | grep :22 will let you know if it's listening
[11:05] <broknbottle> make sure your local firewall has this opened
[11:05] <quilmes> I am trying to install Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7 to my Ubuntu 12.04.1. But I get this error: dependency is not satisfiable libfribidi-bin. Can somebody help me please. Thank you.
[11:05] <broknbottle> if ufw; sudo ufw allow 22/tcp
[11:05] <dr_willis> !find libfribidi
[11:06] <dr_willis> !info libfribidi-bin
[11:06] <jack43> ~|⇒ netstat -tulnp | grep :22 netstat: option requires an argument -- p
[11:06] <Vinc3nD> somebody know how to install source for ubuntu kernel 3.7.x from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/   ??
[11:07] <dr_willis> quilmes:  done a sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade   recently?
[11:07] <quilmes> dr_willis ok but what should I do now?
[11:07] <broknbottle> jack43: what ubuntu version?
[11:07] <quilmes> dr_willis since two months I have not did my updates. It is metter?
[11:07] <broknbottle> that's odd I use it daily when checking boxes and never received that
[11:07] <TakeItEZ> jack43: how do you run netstat on server if you cannot login to run lsof?
[11:07] <dr_willis> quilmes:  you should do a update befor you try to install packages.
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis :(
[11:08] <dr_willis> quilmes:  and keeping up graded is a good security idea
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis ok thank you!
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis the problem will solve it?
[11:08] <jack43> broknbottle: I get this when I run it locally: ~|⇒ netstat -tulnp | grep :22 netstat: option requires an argument -- p
[11:08] <fahad4ever> Hello
[11:08] <fahad4ever> I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB. Made bootable USB with the help of "Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.5.  After that I booted and Selected option to Install Ubuntu in hardrive then Clicked continue. Went into partitioning. As I have unlocated space 20GB I can't see that space in partitioning. All I can see is unusable space but it cannot be edited.  The unusable space cannot be edited I mean it cannot be highlighted for par
[11:08] <dr_willis> quilmes:  no idea..  try it and see.
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis I mean update will solve dependency problem?
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis ok thank you.
[11:08] <dr_willis> update, upgrade, then try installing it
[11:08] <jack43> broknbottle: I have Mac OSX
[11:09] <STMelon> Question: after updating to 12.04.2 i have alot of program hangs, even more apport error pop ups than before. are these known issues? with the new LTS maint upgrade?
[11:09] <jack43> TakeItEZ: Exactly, how am I supposed to log back into my remote server now?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> fahad4ever, installing on a mac?
[11:09] <TakeItEZ> jack43: netstat is to be run on server, not local...
[11:09] <TakeItEZ> jack43: revert whatever changes you made on the server
[11:10] <fahad4ever> cfhowlett, Actually am installing on my Laptop I want to dual boot it with Windows 8
[11:10] <k1l_> fahad4ever: is there a swap partition on the hdd? is it a raid? is it encrypted? ...
[11:10] <broknbottle> ah that explains, yah run netstat on your server..
[11:10] <broknbottle> your not running the ssh server on your mac..
[11:10] <jack43> TakeItEZ: So how do I get back in, if I keep getting that 'ssh: connect to host <NUMBER> port 22: Connection refused' error?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> fahad4ever, ah.  I suspect efi issues ...
[11:10] <broknbottle> jack43 is this server public?
[11:11] <broknbottle> if so what's the address
[11:11] <bekks> jack43: So what did you do before logging out??
[11:11] <jack43> broknbottle: I'm still trying to deploy..
[11:11] <fahad4ever> broknbottle, Actually I shrink space from windows 8 using Computer managment tool
[11:11] <jack43> bekks: I just typed 'exit'
[11:11] <bekks> jack43: Which changes did you do to te ssh service before?
[11:11] <broknbottle> if it's local just console or start the ssh service..
[11:11] <bekks> broknbottle: It isnt local :)
[11:12] <broknbottle> if it's remote whats the public address
[11:12] <jack43> I followed this exact tutorial: http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> jack43: you changed some configs without checking if they work... start recovery-console on server and repair
[11:12] <fahad4ever> k1l_ Actually I cannot even swap I am unable to select unusable space
[11:12] <jack43> I changed my port to the one they listed
[11:12] <bekks> Then why dont you use that port for logging in?
[11:12] <broknbottle> do an mmap scan on the ip
[11:12] <broknbottle> nmap -A IP_ADDRESS
[11:12] <k1l_> fahad4ever: i think it could be some uefi issues
[11:12] <xboxlinux> !bot
[11:13] <broknbottle> check the ports
[11:13] <jack43> broknbottle: How though? Every time I try 'ssh deployer@<IP NUMBER> I get back that error..
[11:13] <bekks> jack43: Again: Use the changed port instead of port 22. ssh -p changedport deployer@IP ...
[11:13] <broknbottle> run nmap from your local mac > your servers IP address
[11:13] <TakeItEZ> jack43: ssh -p 3030 server
[11:14] <bekks> broknbottle: HE doesnt need to run nmap, because we already know the port.
[11:14] <broknbottle> ah okay, well i've seen like 3 different ports
[11:14] <k1l_> jack43: you changed the ssh port. now you need to use that ssh port with the ssh command (ssh cant guess you changed it)
[11:14] <bekks> jack43: So you changed the sshd_comfig to which port?
[11:14] <k1l_> fahad4ever: support only here inside this channel please
[11:15] <jack43> bekks: port 3030
[11:15] <broknbottle> ssh -p 3030 deployer@IP
[11:15] <joey_> hey becks my os doesnt show any window bars
[11:16] <jack43> broknbottle: Ok I'm in the remote server now. What should I do?
[11:16] <broknbottle> what are you trying to do?
[11:16] <broknbottle> it's your server
[11:16] <bekks> jack43: Your problem is now solved. You can log in successfully.
[11:17] <jack43> Yea, but I should be able to just 'ssh deployer@<IP ADDRESS> without the extra '-p 3030'
[11:17] <broknbottle> you either need to use that every time you want to login to that remote server or look into ssh pub keys & config
[11:17] <joey_> this is vampire
[11:17] <bekks> jack43: Then configure your LOCAL ssh client to enable that.
[11:17] <jack43> bekks: How does one do that?
[11:17] <TakeItEZ> jack43: edit ~/.ssh/config
[11:17] <joey_> now my os doesn't show any windows unity or nothing
[11:17] <bekks> jack43: I have no clue on how to do that on Mac OSX.
[11:18] <TakeItEZ> jack43: add 2lines: "Host IP"  and "Port 3030"
[11:18] <k1l_> jack43: i  would say that is a mistake in the howto
[11:18] <broknbottle> jack43: http://kb.mediatemple.net/questions/1625/Using+an+SSH+Config+File
[11:18] <k1l_> joey_: which ubuntu? which desktop? what did you do before?
[11:18] <joey_> becks i did what you guys said now my ubuntu os is messed up
[11:18] <bekks> broknbottle: His client is Mac OSX.
[11:18] <joey_> this is vampire
[11:19] <joey_> im on windows 8 now
[11:19] <broknbottle> bekks: it's the same on them all...
[11:19] <bekks> joey_: We told you MULTIPLE times that it is YOUR decision. Dont blame us now. :)
[11:19] <broknbottle> vim ~/.ssh/config
[11:19] <jack43> subl ~/.ssh/config :)
[11:20] <broknbottle> choose your poison
[11:20] <joey_> so basically dont install driver for ubuntu from amd website or youll have no desktop
[11:20] <bekks> joey_: We told you that there is no guarantuee that those drivers will even work.
[11:20] <Daghdha> I only have a mouse on my desktop and not a windows manager. I cancelled a shut down. Can i restart the windows manager again somehow?
[11:20] <fahad4ever>  I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB. Made bootable USB with the help of "Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.5.  After that I booted and Selected option to Install Ubuntu in hardrive then Clicked continue. Went into partitioning. As I have unlocated space 20GB I can't see that space in partitioning. All I can see is unusable space but it cannot be edited.  The unusable space cannot be edited I mean it cannot be highlighted for pa
[11:21] <Rotselleri> fahad4ever: What system is it formatted in?
[11:21] <joey_> wow
[11:21] <Rotselleri> It needs to be ext4
[11:22] <joey_> looks like tommorrow morning im wipin the drive again just windows 8
[11:22] <fahad4ever> Rotselleri, Actually I want to foramt in Ext4 but I can't do it. I shrinked 20GB space for ubuntu from widnows 8 disk managment tool
[11:22] <Rotselleri> Oh
[11:22] <iceroot> what are my options to edit a file in busybox? only sed and echo "foo" >?
[11:23] <fahad4ever> The 20 GB space is unlocated
[11:23] <dr_willis> busybox may have its own mini vi
[11:23] <broknbottle> jack43: example config for you http://sprunge.us/bCjT
[11:23] <joey_> wow
[11:23] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: depends on what s compiled in, vi isn#t?
[11:23] <dr_willis> busybox can emulate a lot of commands.
[11:23] <Rotselleri> Well fahad4ever, you could try formatting it through gparted on a live USB first
[11:23] <Daghdha> nvm, managed to use vboxmanage. can just reboot now :)
[11:23] <dr_willis> depends on how bsybox was compiled
[11:23] <jack43> TakeItEZ: Thank you sir, those two lines worked like magic.
[11:23] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: dr_willis didnt find "vi" in the default busybox from ubuntu
[11:24] <Rotselleri> fahad4ever: even though what you're trying to do *should* work
[11:24] <dr_willis> id just use a live cd.
[11:24] <joey_> OMG
[11:24] <dr_willis> omg ponies?
[11:24] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: does "ln" work? ln -s busybox vi
[11:24] <k1l_> joey_: i see in backlog, that you installed the driver from that website. you were warned that it can cause problems. :/
[11:25] <k1l_> joey_: i recommend to stick to the supported drivers from the repos
[11:25] <joey_> i use etherape i need ubuntu for that
[11:25] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: i will have a look
[11:26] <dr_willis> !info etherape
[11:26] <k1l_> joey_: and that didnt work with the official driver from the repos`?
[11:26] <dr_willis> so you needed 3d drivers for that?
[11:26] <joey_> and i had the xscreensaver setup for cnn rss
[11:27] <joey_> it was cool but im trying to think should i just go windows 8 or dual boot ubuntu
[11:27] <k1l_> joey_: again, why did you install the other driver? i dont see ubuntu to blame here
[11:28] <sahil> hello i need  a simple help, I have a deb file say xyz.deb and it has dependencies : x.deb y.deb and z.deb suppose in a folder all these four deb files are present along with other 50-60 files,In this condition how to install xyz.deb along with its dependencies with a single command
[11:28] <iceroot> sahil: the other 50-60files are *.deb too?
[11:28] <sahil> 50-60 other useles deb files are present so i cant do dpkg -i *.deb
[11:29] <dr_willis> move the useless ones somewhere ehse
[11:29] <sahil> _iceroot yes :(
[11:29] <dr_willis> else
[11:29] <dr_willis> or make a looong command to install the ones you need
[11:29] <joey_> ok next time i wont install the driver but my game just wouldnt work with the open source driver
[11:29] <iceroot> sahil: sudo dpkg -i a.deb b.deb c.deb d.deb
[11:30] <k1l_> !info fglrx
[11:30] <cfhowlett> iceroot, query: put all the .debs in a folder, cd to the folder and dpkg *.deb  won't work???
[11:30] <k1l_> joey_: ^
[11:30] <joey_> well ill dual boot but make only a 100 gb partition this time instead of 250
[11:30] <sahil> okey thanx and is there any cmmand to generate the list of dependencies for xyz.deb ?
[11:30] <DaemonicApathy> I believe "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debs/*" would work, no?
[11:30] <iceroot> cfhowlett: of course that would work too
[11:30] <k1l_> joey_: there is a amd driver from ubuntu. i still dont see why you just dont use that
[11:30] <cfhowlett> iceroot, thanks.  just curious
[11:32] <sahil> _cfhowlett if you have 100s of debs and say 30-40 debfiles all with libxxx names its hard to copy them (time consuming) on the first place
[11:33] <bekks> sahil: Then create a script for installing them maybe.
[11:33] <dr_willis> or figure out a fancy regular explression
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sahil, thus my query about .deb*  ... the wild card * eliminates the need for individual naming
[11:33] <sahil>  is it possible to generate the dependency list?
[11:33] <dr_willis> just 40 file? shouldent be too hard to copy
[11:34] <bekks> dr_willis: sudo dpkg -i *.deb ? :)
[11:34] <dr_willis> dpkg -i   wont pull in any extra dependencies.. gdebi can
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:34] <dr_willis> he dident want to install them all.. so either 1) move them to a dir and use the *.deb    2) make a script that just installs the ones you want.. or 3) make a regular explression
[11:35] <Rotselleri> So I wanna run win7 and ubuntu, and I have Ubuntu installed. So I want to install win7, make partitions for ubuntu, and install it. But if I do that, Iäll lose all my ubuntu stuff (user settings documents etc). Is there a way to backup my ubuntu stuff for easy reinstall when I've installed win7?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[11:35] <dr_willis> Rotselleri:  copy the stuff to a flash drive. or cloud storage.
[11:35] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, Hi
[11:35] <sahil> ok heres my actual problem: i have downloaded libreoffice 4.0 suite i dont want anything other then the writer dpkg -i*.deb wont help .
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Rotselleri, OR you just keep ubuntu, install virtualbox, install win7 inside virtualbox ...
[11:36] <arunkumar413> how to find the bios information
[11:36] <Rotselleri> dr_willis: If I do that, and when Iäve installed ubuntu, I just put all my stuff in /, will that work automagically?
[11:37] <Rotselleri> cfhowlett: Yeah Ive tried that, but it's terribly slow and tedious.
[11:37] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: hmmm i can't connect my usb flash disk into gust os in virtualbox, 12.04 guest and host same
[11:37] <Gustav_> hi, thx for the help earlyer but i have a new problem. When i try to download somthing on ubuntu it says thet i have 0disc space remaining, i have ubuntu on a USB, i youse the deafault option when lauching ubuntu
[11:37] <DaemonicApathy> Rotselleri: Have a read, my friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581680
[11:37] <bekks> sahil: Then just install the dependencies manually. You could have been finished by now :)
[11:37] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, there's a virtualbox setting for the usb passthrough ...
[11:37] <arunkumar413> touch pad disable feature not working on my  hp g6 notebook.
[11:38] <dr_willis> Rotselleri:  you put stuff from your home back in your home.....
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, what size is your USB
[11:38] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: i have tried it... but i wanna hear your advice...
[11:38] <sahil> one more thing:everytime i used btrfs i got some sparse file error at boot time,reinstalling grub solved my problem...
[11:38] <Gustav_> 3,8MB i think
[11:38] <Rotselleri> dr_willis: yeah sure, but it's a fresh install. It's not obvious that it would recognize everything.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, don't know what to say.  my usb / virtualbox connection works ...
[11:38] <dr_willis> Rotselleri:   what would recognize what? huh?
[11:38] <Rotselleri> DaemonicApathy: This looks promising, thanks!
[11:38] <sahil> ya sure but i just want to knw if that thing is possible using cli
[11:39] <DaemonicApathy> Rotselleri: Any time.
[11:39] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: hmmm but mine not works...
[11:39] <Gustav_> somone know how to fix it_
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, and have already installed stuff or updated?  then you might BE out of space.  try this df -h
[11:39] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  how did you put ubuntu on usb?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, peek at the settings for that VM ...
[11:40] <Gustav_> i have put ubuntu on a USB using a program and i chose 2mb in the setting, when i lauch i asks me what i would like to start with, i choose defaule, not the install option
[11:41] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  you made a 2mb or 2GB persistant file?
[11:41] <sahil> well how gallium3d performs in ubuntu?last time i tried it wasnt good enough...i am on precise ,my chipset is hd4200
[11:41] <Gustav_> dk, i chose 2
[11:41] <Gustav_> did not say anything else
[11:41] <dr_willis> we dont know either... 2mb is useless... 2gb can still get filled up quickly
[11:42] <arunkumar413> battery icon not showing in the topbar in ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-shell
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, clear your cache.  open a terminal and type sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[11:43] <Gustav_> I did not use the recomended program because it did not work, somone sent me an alternative USB creator
[11:43] <Gustav_> how do i clean my cache
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, ... someone ... sent ...
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, read.  the command is there
[11:44] <magnus__> Hi!
[11:44] <cfhowlett> magnus__, greetings
[11:44] <rita_> hi
[11:45] <magnus__> someone here that has good knowledge about Ubuntu and its upcoming mobile devices?
[11:45] <iceroot> magnus__: #ubuntu-phone
[11:45] <ikonia> magnus__: try the #ubuntu-phone channel
[11:45] <magnus__> ok
[11:45] <dr_willis> magnus__:  theres not a lot of official knowledge to know at this time
[11:45] <sahil> _cfhowlett  how is gallium3d's performance in ubuntu precise?
[11:45] <Gustav_> this happends        Reading package lists... Error! E: Unable to synchronize mmap - msync (28: No space left on device) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:45] <rita_> how can i make a mapping to a share network drive is permanent . So when i reboot the mapping is still there
[11:45] <cfhowlett> sahil, absolutely no idea ...
[11:46] <iceroot> !fstab | rita_
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, yep, you've peaked out that usb ...
[11:46] <sahil> okey is there a dedicate chanall for graphics woes?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> #graphics|sahil,
[11:48] <sahil> thanx a lot :)  Linux : The POWER of WE !! Cheers!!
[11:48] <BluesKaj> sahil, depends , tell us your issue
[11:49] <arunkumar413> there is small ridge on the touch  pad to disable the touchpad but when i tap on the ridge the touch pad is not getting disabled.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, that's a hardware switch that must be enabled in your OS .. not always by default ...
[11:49] <rita_> thanks foor your help
[11:50] <Gustav_> srry for being a noob at linux, but flashplayer wil not download, it says    This link needs to be opend with an aplication. send to    and then i have to choose an aplication
[11:50] <dr_willis> dont download flash from the adobe site...
[11:50] <dr_willis> use the package manager to install flash
[11:50] <_nedR> hello, i have set aside the last unallocated space of  90 GB in hdd for installing ubuntu.. I would like to reserve 1. 60GB for /  2. 6GB for swap 3. 22 GB for /home
[11:50] <arunkumar413> cfhowlett: how to enable the hardware switch
[11:50] <_nedR> how do i go about doing this
[11:51] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, on a laptop?
[11:51] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: partition it that way?
[11:51] <arunkumar413> cfhowlett: yes, i'm on a laptop
[11:51] <sahil> last time i installed gallium#d it left me with artifacts in LightDm as well as in desktop,i had to painfully guess the associtaed graphics pacages related to gallium3d and unstalled it via safe mode,desktop was unusable after that so i reinstalled again,so i just wana make sure what graphics driver should i use for a good overall experience.My chipset is ati hd4200,OSis Ubuntu precise
[11:51] <_nedR> DaemonicApathy, thanks for reply yeah i would like to partition that way
[11:52] <_nedR> This has to all fit in 1 primary partition
[11:52] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: That was my suggestion. Make the 90GB a Primary partition, then divide it into separate mount points.
[11:52] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, during my installation, ubuntu detected my Dell and automagically installed Dell laptop utilities ...
[11:52] <dr_willis> you use a extended partion. and put logicals in it _nedR
[11:52] <jack43> I'm trying to install rbenv and ruby in my remote server, but I keep getting this: deployer@HostName:~$ rbenv bootstrap-ubuntu-12-04 -bash: rbenv: command not found
[11:52] <_nedR> i am right now in ubuntu live usb disk
[11:52] <jack43> Any ideas?
[11:52] <dr_willis> unless its a gpt partioned disk
[11:52] <_nedR> how do i do this gparted
[11:52] <dr_willis> _nedR:  use gparted to partion it how you want
[11:52] <BluesKaj> 1.6G isn't ebough for /  , _nedR
[11:53] <BluesKaj> enough
[11:53] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: the disk has its own tool under "Something Else" that works quite well ime.
[11:53] <_nedR> BluesKaj 60gb for /
[11:53] <BluesKaj> that's too much
[11:53] <_nedR> well i want to install programs in it too
[11:53] <BluesKaj> 10G should be fine
[11:53] <bekks> BluesKaj: It is :) When having seperate mountpoints for /boot, /home, /usr, /opt and /var
[11:53] <dr_willis> yea. all those pointpoints are a bit overkill
[11:53] <bekks> BluesKaj: My / is about 500M used over here.
[11:54] <sahil> _nedR  i gave 4.4gb to / when i was using Ubuntu 10.10 it worked fine
[11:54] <dr_willis> ive filled up a 25 gb /
[11:54] <dr_willis>  but that was due to a lot of tmp space used
[11:54] <_nedR> i want 3 partitions 1 for /  , 1 for /home , 1 for swap
[11:54] <Gustav_> i am a noob at linux, what package maneger  this is my first time with linux srry
[11:54] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: How much memory do you have?
[11:54] <_nedR> DaemonicApathy, 4GB
[11:55] <dr_willis> !apt
[11:55] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: My suggestion: 5GB /, 4GB /swap, the rest /home.
[11:55] <mikili> hi all
[11:55] <_nedR> Gustav, use Ubuntu Software Center, very noob friendly
[11:55] <bekks> DaemonicApathy: 5G for / is pretty low.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> bekks, interestin , df  -h shows 6.4G for / here
[11:55] <_nedR> DaemonicApathy, but what if i want to install lot of apps where will those go
[11:56] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: package manger a program to install, uninstall, update and manage the softwares on ubuntu
[11:56] <dr_willis> id do at least 20gb for /
[11:56] <dr_willis> !manual | Gustav_
[11:56] <fahad4ever> Unable to install ubuntu
[11:56] <bekks> _nedR: 20G /, 4G swap, all the rest for /home
[11:56] <fahad4ever> :(
[11:56] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: Adjust as needed, it's just a base point, modeled after my own experiences.
[11:56] <Gustav_> the software senter wil not start, it starts glowing but thet is it
[11:56] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, ubuntustudio 12.04.1 fully updated  6.2 G used, separate /home
[11:56] <fahad4ever> Unable to see unlocated space
[11:57] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: what do u want to install
[11:57] <_nedR> i would like to install some developer tools like Eclipse Qt etc, also Steam (CS 1.6 on Ubuntu woot, 6 year wait is over)
[11:57] <Gustav_> flas player
[11:57] <dr_willis> depend oing on what work you are doing..  you can fill up 20gb on / ;) done it befor
[11:57] <bekks> _nedR: Then you'd better use 30G for / :)
[11:57] <_nedR> yeah i am wondering i cant install apps in /home can i?
[11:57] <dr_willis> _nedR:  it normally dosent work that way
[11:58] <cfhowlett> _nedR, /home is for user data NOT apps
[11:58] <posdifu> steam installs to home i think
[11:58] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: ok, open synaptic package manger and search for flash and install the flash palyer
[11:58] <_nedR> i have 200 GB ntfs partition for personal data, so i am reckonning /home is only for settings, I am keeping 60Gb for apps i might want to install
[11:58] <bekks> !flash | Gustav_
[11:58] <_nedR> does that make sense
[11:58] <dr_willis> posdifu:   the games do.. but not steam itself..
[11:59] <dr_willis> but steam is weird on linux anyway. ;)
[11:59] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: in the synaptic select flashplugin-install and click on apply
[11:59] <Ben64> dr_willis: hey, steam works fine
[11:59] <Gustav_> it is that the software senter wont start
[12:00] <dr_willis> Ben64:  it definatly works weirdly...
[12:00] <bekks> fahad4ever: I am only giving support in this channel, nowhere else.
[12:00] <dr_willis> took me some time to get it to actually install then update.. and it still says its not updated.. but runs
[12:00] <bekks> Gustav_: You dont have to use the software center.
[12:00] <fahad4ever> bekks, I am trying to install ubuntu
[12:00] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, better than my experience... got but it won't login
[12:00] <Ben64> dr_willis: you must be doing something weird
[12:00] <fahad4ever> bekks, Could you please help me
[12:01] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: if sofware center is not working open synaptic package manger
[12:01] <nibbler__> !details | fahad4ever
[12:01] <dr_willis> Ben64:  just running 'steam'  and it says its not updated.. but it is..
[12:01] <bekks> fahad4ever: You asked several times in here, and I am afraid, I cant help you due to lacking information.
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !sputnik
[12:01] <dr_willis> Your steam package is out of date. Please get an updated version from your package provider or directly from http://repo.steampowered.com/steam for supported distributions.
[12:01] <dr_willis> says that every time... and it is up to date.
[12:02] <PryMaL> dr_willis: did you install via store.steampowered.com
[12:02] <Ben64> you sure? you had to reinstall it at some point, because they changed the method of updating
[12:02] <dr_willis> the store version would not install.. had to get the steam_latest.deb from the site shown above
[12:02] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: or open a terminal and type the command :  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:02] <PryMaL> Ben64: you're right!  I had to uninstall the repo version then install from website
[12:02] <dr_willis> it then updated itself..
[12:02] <fahad4ever> bekks, Problem is with the software :(
[12:03] <_nedR> Does /home have to be large if i won't be keeping much personal data in it?
[12:03] <bekks> fahad4ever: Please provide the details asked.
[12:03] <dr_willis> to even get that one to install..i had to go through my home and clean out several of the steam directories by hand
[12:03] <PryMaL> dr_willis: you running 64bit by any chance?!
[12:03] <dr_willis> PryMaL:  yep
[12:03] <Gustav_> how do i open  synaptic package manger    srry for being a noob
[12:03] <bekks> _nedR: All of my /home filesystems are 4G or less. DATA is stored in a DATA filesystem, not in a user home.
[12:03] <bekks> Gustav_: Just use a terminal to install flash.
[12:03] <dr_willis> Hmm.. steam wont run now.. says another instance of steam is running...   but its not. ;)
[12:04] <sahil> _Gustav do you have synaptic pacake manager installed?
[12:04] <PryMaL> dr_willis: killall steam
[12:04] <Gustav_> nope, what is it_
[12:04] <_nedR> bekks earlier you recommended 20G for / 4G for swap and rest for /home (which comes to 66G)
[12:04] <aloem> !list
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:05] <fahad4ever> bekks, I am in Installation type windows for partitioning. I cannot select partition table.
[12:05] <bekks> _nedR: Yes. And now you asked about the details of storing files in /home
[12:05] <Gustav_> 12.04
[12:05] <sahil> well it is also a package manager like ubutu software center but less informantive and more powerful
[12:05] <Ben64> aloem: why always !list ???
[12:05] <Gustav_> 64bit
[12:05] <bekks> fahad4ever: So you are using the WUBI installer?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, Ubuntu software center is included in 12.04 by default
[12:05] <bekks> fahad4ever: For installing Ubuntu inside of windows?
[12:06] <arunkumar413> Gustav_: click on dash on the left side and type termial, the termial will be shown in the search results. open the terminal and type the command: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:06] <_nedR> bekks, just wondering why you recommended 66G for my /home when you said you use 4G for your :)
[12:06] <PryMaL> dr_willis: also try manually installing from store, instead of auto.  That's what I had to do!
[12:06] <sahil> _gustav,open terminal and type sudo apt-get install synaptic
[12:06] <Gustav_> i know, but i wont lauch, i have tried the icon on the desctop and throug the Dash home
[12:06] <posdifu> dr_willis: i looked it up and steam actually installs to the users home
[12:06] <sahil> and enter your password when prompted
[12:07] <fahad4ever> bekks, No I booted for USB and directly chatting from Ubuntu but I cannot install. I am in middle of the installation.
[12:07] <bekks> _nedR: PErsonally, I have 512M for /boot, 16G for swap, 2G for /, 4G for /home, 4G for /opt, 4G for /var, 20G for /usr, 20G for /usr/src - fo figure :)
[12:07] <dr_willis> which steam
[12:07] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/steam
[12:07] <bekks> *go figure even :)
[12:07] <posdifu> no the greater part not the shellscript
[12:07] <Gustav_> thsi happens     Reading package lists... Error! E: Unable to synchronize mmap - msync (28: No space left on device) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ^C
[12:07] <fahad4ever> bekks, I clicked on Install ubuntu
[12:07] <nibbler__> i sometimes have the problem of my shells (gnome-terminal in ubuntu classic, 12.10) not showing the last line - like apt-get visually never returning... if i press enter then, i get two prompts... like the first one was just not shown before. any hints?
[12:08] <jrib> Gustav_: your / partition is full
[12:08] <fahad4ever> bekks, after that I ended at "INSTALLATION TYPE"
[12:08] <sahil> _bekks just curious,whats the advantage of haveing thses as separate patiotion??
[12:08] <jrib> bekks: 2G on / only?
[12:08] <_nedR> bekks, :o wow thats little too complex for me
[12:08] <nibbler__> !enter | fahad4ever
[12:08] <jrib> bekks: oh you have separate /usr...
[12:08] <bekks> jrib: Sure. Everything else is on separate partitions. :)
[12:08] <aguitel> i cannot update from repos , is this possible?
[12:09] <bekks> fahad4ever: I am sorry, I never used the graphical installer.
[12:09] <Diazo> Howdy all, I'm curious if anybody electively upgraded to Quantal kernel on Precise 12.04.2 LTS has had any kernel and/or related problems?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, you can't install anything else.  you should reinstall ubuntu on that usb and this time assign more than 2 g
[12:09] <arunkumar413>  wish irc is available as facebook app
[12:09] <jrib> Gustav_: what's the output of « df -h » (use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[12:09] <BluesKaj> aguitel, yes if your system is already up to date
[12:09] <Gustav_> jrib, how do i fix it, i have ubuntu on a USB and i deticated 2 when i used the uSB creator, it did not say MB or GB
[12:09] <cfhowlett> aguitel, what error messages are you getting?
[12:09] <sahil> well are you on low space??
[12:09] <Gustav_> ok
[12:09] <Gustav_> thx
[12:09] <davlefou> Hi, what is the sandbox option in  do-release-upgrade?
[12:10] <aguitel> cfhowlett, Failed to fetch
[12:10] <Ben64> Diazo: we can't help you with installing other version's packages in 12.04
[12:10] <aguitel> BluesKaj, Failed to fetch
[12:10] <fahad4ever> bekks, Please let me know how to partition thats it. I have 20GB unlocated space which I shrink with Windows 8 disk managment tool. I just want to convert that unlocated space to ext4. Any help from yourside will be awesome.
[12:10] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, yeah, because FB doesn't have enough info on you yet???
[12:11] <sliddjur> Im connected as a non sudo user. how do I make a sudo command as a sudo user? termnal
[12:11] <sky770> http://www.canonical.com/content/touch-developer-preview-ubuntu-be-published-21-february-2013
[12:11] <sky770> but only for nexus / nexus 4 :(
[12:11] <Diazo> Ben64, I'm lost figures 12.04.2 LTS uses a newer kernel by default from a an ISO image. I also read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[12:11] <jrib> sliddjur: you can change users with "su - USERNAME"
[12:11] <bekks> fahad4ever: I am not using dualboot installs since about 10 years. I cant help you.
[12:11] <Diazo> Anyone running with the original Precise stack will not be automatically updated to the new Quantal enablement stack. Users can electively choose to install the Quantal (or newer) enablement stack meta package if they wish to do so.
[12:11] <bekks> sliddjur: You have to be a sudo user.
[12:12] <sliddjur> jrib: i just want to exectue one single command with a sudo user
[12:12] <DJones> sky770: #ubuntu-phone for discussion on the Ubuntu phone project
[12:12] <fahad4ever> bekks, Thank you I will try someone else to help me.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> aguitel, how stable are your repository connections there ?
[12:12] <bekks> sliddjur: Then you have to be a sudo user. A non.sudo user cant sudo.
[12:12] <fahad4ever> Anyone over here who can help me on dual boot windows 8 and Ubuntu. However, I cannot install Ubuntu.
[12:12] <aguitel> BluesKaj, stable ? how to know
[12:12] <jrib> sliddjur: you can use su's "-c" switch to pass a single command
[12:13] <Ben64> Diazo: oh, strange
[12:13] <sky770> DJones: ahh..exactly what I have been looking forward to.. Thanks a ton! :D
[12:13] <alex_____> after installing Nvidia proprietary drivers on my desktop (12.04 LTS) Ubuntu won't load. It gets to the purple screen with the logo and the yellow dots. They do not change colour.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> aguitel, do you get these mirror errors very often ,and have you tried differnt ones ?
[12:13] <fahad4ever> Anyone over here who can help me on dual boot windows 8 and Ubuntu together. However, I cannot install Ubuntu.
[12:13] <aguitel> BluesKaj i will try from us
[12:14] <BluesKaj> aguitel, right
[12:14] <cfhowlett> alex_____, logout login with a different desktop environment
[12:14] <Diazo> Ben64, Yeah I figured 12.04.2 LTS was supposed to upgrade to the Quantal kernel automatically but it says I have to elect to install it. Otherwise, I can download the image and it'll be there automatically. The question I was asking is has anybody experienced breakage using the newer kernel on an LTS release seeing as it's included by default if you download it.
[12:15] <alex_____> efhowlett, I do not have the option. It freezes like that right after boot, not letting me boot into rescue mode or anything.
[12:16] <fahad4ever> Ben64, Could you please help me dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu together?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> alex_____, boot into recovery mode ... that'll get you a terminal...
[12:17] <Ben64> fahad4ever: stop highlighting random people... just state your issue/problem/question in one line and give complete details and someone can help
[12:17] <alex_____> efhowlett, I have attempted the Ctrl+F1/F2 method, is there another way?
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !details|fahad4ever,
[12:18] <BluesKaj> alex_____, ctrl alt f1
[12:18] <cfhowlett> alex_____, yes, logout!  at the grub screen, hit "e" ... I THINK and you'll get a grub editing console ...
[12:20] <alex_____> efhowlett, I do not have grub, just the default bootloader.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> !uefi | fahad4ever
[12:21] <cfhowlett> fahad4ever, see these links.  follow the steps.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot    OR    http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/11/05/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu-12-10-on-uefi-hardware/
[12:24] <alex_____> efhowlett, BluesKaj, ubuntu doesn't seem to respond to keyboard input at all. I did however notice that the dots change colour for a few seconds when I hold the powerbutton pressed.
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[12:26] <dr_willis> heh theres no alternative cd for 12.10 now.
[12:26] <dr_willis> is there a rescue option on the desktop cd? ive never noticed
[12:26] <BluesKaj> alex_____, grub is the default bootloader if you did a normal ubuntu install
[12:27] <MrExplainNow> Hello, I'm trying to use psybnc, but when I try and make menuconfig it tells me that "make: Nothing to be done for 'menuconfig'
[12:27] <MrExplainNow> Ideas?
[12:28] <alex_____> BluesKaj, I used wubi, if that changes anything. the options I have at the bootloader are: Win7, Ubuntu, windows memory diagnostic.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> alex_____, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!  ... sorry
[12:28] <BluesKaj> alex_____,  oh wubi ... then that's a totally differnt story
[12:29] <cfhowlett> alex_____, wubi is a testing platform for ubuntu NOT a long-term installation method.  so say the developers
[12:29] <dr_willis> MrExplainNow:  perhaps it just needs a ./configure, and make, not make menuconfig
[12:29] <BluesKaj> wubi is ok for experimenting , but it can't be regarded as a serious and permanent install , alex_____
[12:29] <dr_willis> i perfer znc over psybnc ;)
[12:30] <alex_____> efhowlett, so installing proprietary drivers breaks wubi?
[12:30] <MrExplainNow> No such file, I've done it this way before.
[12:30] <dr_willis> just looking at it funny can break wubi..... ;)
[12:30] <dr_willis> !find psybnc
[12:31] <dr_willis> dont think psybnc is in the repos.
[12:31] <MrExplainNow> Evidently not
[12:31] <cfhowlett> alex_____, in my experience, anything with wubi other than it's intended purpose leads to unforeseen consequences.  Also IMO not worth the blood, sweat and tears to track down/fix.  If you want to test, install virtualbox in windows, put your ubuntu in that and call it a day.  Otherwise, a proper dual boot is adviseable
[12:32] <cfhowlett> alex_____, again IMHO
[12:32] <MrExplainNow> dr_willis, why do you think znc is better?
[12:33] <dr_willis> MrExplainNow:  its in the repos and it works. ;) and i know how to use it..
[12:33] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, most will concur with your opinion :)
[12:33] <dr_willis> everone seems to have to fight with psybnc
[12:33] <dr_willis> weechat has a bouncer feature now it seems.. so i may switch away from znc.. but  not yet.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I love wubi when used properly ... otherwise
[12:34] <MrExplainNow> I'm reinstalling this so I literally just did this 5 minutes ago
[12:34] <alex_____> efhowlett, I did try virualbox at first, but I couldn't get the interface working, so I tried wubi. should I make a Live-usb and through that reinstall ubuntu?
[12:34] <MrExplainNow> Which is why I'm confused.
[12:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Hello. I regressed back to gnome-fallback in ubuntu precise, and would like to use the unity greeter as a login screen instead because its purdy, can anyone assist me in doing this?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> yup, cfhowlett
[12:36] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: ?  you dont have lightdm? or what do you mean?
[12:37] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  lightdm is the default login manager for Ubuntu..  what are you using now?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> alex_____, do you have any experience and feel comfortable with partitioning sofftware
[12:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> I mean, when you boot your computer in vanilla precise you get the unity-greeter, right? my login screen resembles the old lucid one.
[12:37] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: ok let me rephrase: what did you change?
[12:37] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and be sure to select lightdm
[12:38] <dr_willis> but personally i perfer GDM. ;)
[12:38] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: because for using the gnome-fallback you dont need to change anything beside selecting the gnome-fallback entry in lightdm
[12:38] <icesword> drwillis, hi
[12:38] <scott_z> question: I have a directory with an audiobook in .mp3 format. They are listed in order but when I copy them to my mp3 player, they seem to copy in a random order. My mp3 player plays them in the order that they where copied and not in 'alphabetical' order. How can I get them to copy in order without having to copy them one at a time?
[12:39] <alex_____> BluesKaj, no not really. I have partioned the drive on this computer, other than that I haven't used partitioning software
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> scott_z  have you read a manual of your player?
[12:41] <dr_willis> if 'echo *' shows them in order... then cp * /path/to/whatever    should copy them in order.
[12:41] <dr_willis> but i would be suprised if the player is actually doing that.
[12:41] <dr_willis> there May be some track id3 info on the files its using for the order
[12:41] <scott_z> MonkeyDust: it is just a cheap generic player. just a basic menu system.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> scott_z  is that an external player or in ubuntu?
[12:42]  * riderplus Gooo away
[12:42] <cfhowlett> alex_____, sorry I was AFK.  I'd suggest you .torrent 12.04 and either VBox or dual boot install.  Your choice
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> riderplus  are you a bot or script?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, I'd also bet on the id3 tags
[12:42] <scott_z> MonkeyDust: it is an external player
[12:43] <fahad4ever> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 using USB. Made bootable USB with the help of "Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.5. After that I booted and Selected option to Install Ubuntu in harddrive then Clicked continue. Went into partitioning. As I have unlocated space 20GB I can't see that space in partitioning. All I can see is unusable space but it cannot edit. The unusable space cannot be edited I mean it cannot be highlighted for par
[12:44] <scott_z> dr_willis: I was just dragging and dropping with in Ubuntu (Natulis). It displays in order but when I drag and drop it copies them in what appears to be a random order. I did not think to try a command line.
[12:44] <alex_____> efhowlett, BluesKaj, alright. thanks for the help!
[12:44] <BluesKaj> alex_____, installing ubuntu beside windows is fairly painless, but a bit of reading about will help a lot so you'll know what to expect https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[12:44] <cfhowlett> alex_____, best of luck
[12:47] <amgarchIn9> Hi! I look at Xorg.0.log and see that Xorg detected the dimension of the monitor correctly at startup, not 144 DPI: "[     5.988] (**) intel(0): DPI set to (143, 144)" However when the system is up and running something sets DPI to a lower value: "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" gives 96 DPI. All the fonts and other graphics is tiny. What is going on?
[12:48] <amgarchIn9> *note 144 DPI
[12:48] <amgarchIn9> how does one ask the channel bot about FAQs?
[12:48] <dr_willis>  /msg ubottu  help
[12:51] <nedbat> I'm having trouble getting an AppArmor profile into complain mode.  It's in enforce mode now, and nothing I do seems to change it.
[12:52] <odra> Hey
[12:52] <scott_z> dr_willis: ok, the echo works but only if I am in that directory. How can a copy a bunch of directories that contain the files?
[12:52] <odra> Does anybody knows if typing the accent of á without a letter makes it a single quote?
[12:53] <xauth> odra: probably not, unicode-wise.
[12:54] <odra> xauth: Weird.
[12:54] <odra> Because these are single quote, grave and acute for me: ' ` '
[12:54] <nedbat> odra: there are more than that if you look through all of unicode.
[12:55] <odra> I don't care about the unicode my problem is with typing the acute mark :/
[12:55] <xauth> odra: Whatever your entry method is, it probably converts the accent to an apostrophe.
[12:56] <odra> Then, can someone tell me if in this line http://www.gitorious.org/mypaint/mypaint/blobs/master/gui/dialogs.py#line126 the %s is surrounded by a grave and an acute mark or a grave and a single quote?
[12:56] <xauth> The lone accent you just showed us is indeed an apostrophe.
[12:57] <Ben64> unicode, and accents are pretty well offtopic for this channel
[12:58] <kimir> Is there a working keylogger for ubuntu 12.10? I tried logkeys: it doesnt log anything. I also tried lkl: sometimes freezes/crashes X. Any ideas?
[12:58] <odra> Ben64: Sorry, I couldn't think of any channel to ask this besides #ubuntu. Since I'm on ubuntu right now.
[12:59] <varun> hello, please help me to create a volume group..
[12:59] <Ben64> odra: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/index.htm and a hex editor should tell you everything
[13:00] <odra> Ben64: Will it tell me how to type an acute mark?
[13:00] <Ben64> yep
[13:00] <Bruse_> Hi guys, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie. I installed Lubuntu on a HP mini 1000 a couple of days ago, and it works great. However, is there any way to customize it so that I can do pretty much everything with the keyboard and don't have to use the trackpad?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, congrats on the install and yes.
[13:02] <Naphatul> is there a way to get the feature when you get to a 'hot corner' in cinnamon?
[13:03] <Bruse_> cfhowlett: , Thank! What is the best way to go? Should I get rid of LXDE and go with just openbox or something like that?
[13:03] <k1l_> Naphatul: for cinnamon ask the mint support, please
[13:03] <k1l_> !mint | Naphatul
[13:03] <varun> hello..i need a little help please..
[13:03] <Naphatul> i'm not asking about cinnamon i'm aksing if unity has something like what cinnamon has
[13:04] <scott_z> varun: try the groupadd command in a terminal window
[13:04] <k1l_> Naphatul: ah ok. that wasnt clear to me.
[13:04] <xauth> varun: groupadd is for user groups, not volume groups.
[13:04] <scott_z> sorry just trying to help :)
[13:05] <scott_z> thought he wanted a group called volume
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, you can edit your keybings to do quite a bit .  in fact ... wait 1
[13:05] <k1l_> Naphatul: compiz has some hot corner settings in the ccsm iirc.
[13:05] <xauth> scott_z: ah, interesting interpretation. :-)
[13:06] <Naphatul> well i'm not really interested in the how to activate it but the way it gives you and overview of the windows and workspaces when you activate it
[13:06] <varun> xauth: i tried pvcreate /dev/sda but it says device not found
[13:06] <scott_z> varun: to create a volume group you could try vgcreate
[13:07] <k1l_> Naphatul: sry i dont get what you are really asking here. so see this video if its what you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4OO6ab0FA
[13:07] <androx> ciao
[13:07] <Gustav_> Hi anyone know how to install flashplauer on Ubuntu, srry for being noob
[13:07] <Gustav_> i know it is in the software center
[13:07] <androx> !list
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, with your permission I can send you  a 12.04 keyboard shortcut sheetcheat
[13:08] <scott_z> vmrun: you might have to install the lvm2 package though
[13:08] <Tm_T> Gustav_: I think the package name you should be looking for is flashplugin-installer
[13:08] <varun> scott_z:Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sda' to volume group 'fun'.
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, unless you've freed up some space, you cannot install anything else...
[13:09] <Bruse_> cfhowlett: Sure :) Thank you
[13:09] <varun> scott_z: Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sda' to volume group 'fun'.
[13:09] <Gustav_> i have freed up quite a lot
[13:09] <Gustav_> 3gb
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, awaiting your acceptance ...
[13:11] <varun> #xen
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, empty your trash and run sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[13:12] <Gustav_> what wil it do
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, my side shows failed transmit...\
[13:12] <scott_z> varun: I found this. It is pretty intense and I did not read it all. Hope this helps http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/40702/how-to-manage-and-use-lvm-logical-volume-management-in-ubuntu/
[13:12] <Bruse_> cfhowlett: Hrm, strange. Could you try again?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, actually empty your trash and clean out downloaded .debs from your updates...
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, awaiting approval
[13:13] <varun> scott_z: thanks
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, fyi "deleting" items merely moves them to .trash ... does NOT remove them from the system ...
[13:13] <scott_z> varun: np :) let me know if it helps
[13:14] <Bruse_> cfhowlett: Got it! Thanks again.
[13:15] <Gustav_> i did not delete things to get more space, i had deticated a to smal amount of space to Ubundu so i deleted ubundu and dedicated 3GB
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Bruse_, librecalc to read
[13:15] <Gustav_> i run Ubundu on a USB
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, roger
[13:17] <joshu> is it possible to use ubuntu 12.10 remote login without uccs?
[13:19] <iceroot> what tool is recommend to encrypt a raid-array (not bootable)? luks? dm-crypt?
[13:19] <Gustav_> srry again, but youtube does not make sound, i have the sound on ful, and i have the youtube sound on full
[13:20] <Gustav_> srry again, but youtube does not make sound, i have the sound on ful, and i have the youtube sound on full, can somone help_
[13:21] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, is it only youtube failing or is all your sound affected ?
[13:21] <Gustav_> all sound is failing
[13:22] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, ok, first thing to do is to open alsamixer and put ALL ( and I mean ALL ) the volumes to maximum
[13:22] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, sometimes the driver miss-labels your sound channels, so that the control for the mic becomes the main volume controll and similar
[13:22] <nibbler__> my digicam video happens to be like 400MB for a 4 minute clip, bad quality anyway - whats an easy way to reencode to save some space?
[13:23] <Gustav_> where is the mixer_
[13:23] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, so run:  alsamixer   in a terminal  ( install it first with apt-get if you don't have it )
[13:23] <JennyBlueBird> and put all the volumes to max and make sure they are not muted
[13:23] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_,   sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[13:24] <JennyBlueBird> then just run it in terminal like any other program
[13:24] <JennyBlueBird> Also worth setting the pulseaudio settings to max
[13:24] <JennyBlueBird> if you use it
[13:25] <JennyBlueBird> seriously, 9 times of 10 when I had sound issues it was just some stupid volume control somewhere that was set low
[13:25] <Gustav_> shit, terminal disapeard, i had it open earlyer
[13:25] <Naphatul> so my audio stutters a lot under ubuntu i'm guessing because of my shitty case and front panel detection, the way to get rid of it is to open alsamixer and set headphones to 0%, is there a way to automatically do this at every boot or save it?
[13:25] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, just open a new one
[13:26] <JennyBlueBird> Naphatul, it should not reset it in the first place : /
[13:26] <JennyBlueBird> Naphatul, have you tried using the pulseaudio controls to adjust the volume ?
[13:26] <Gustav_> i kn ow, but i can\t find it where i found it earlyer, i am seaching in the Dash and it can not find it
[13:26] <Naphatul> nope
[13:27] <Naphatul> after searching for a solution that one was the only one that worked so i kinda stuck with that
[13:27] <JennyBlueBird> Naphatul, is it actually playback that stutters or does it just pick up the microphone noise sporadically ?
[13:27] <captine> Hi there. Seem to have succeeded in breaking my Ubuntu laptop. Desktop manager not working. 12.04.2. Am being asked to reconfig display, but clicking OK does nothing. Amy suggestions welcome
[13:28] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, not used t that interface I'm afraid, I use xfce
[13:28] <Naphatul> JennyBlueBird, i don't have a microphone plugged in, it's playback that stutters
[13:28] <JennyBlueBird> Gustav_, it's usually under something like "system" or "accessories"
[13:29] <JennyBlueBird> Naphatul, well, my solution to almost all sound issues is to rip pulseaudio out of the system and kill it with fire , but that's not really an officially recomended one since it may break things you like. :-)
[13:29] <JennyBlueBird> Such as per-application volume controls
[13:29] <larst> hi all
[13:29] <Gustav_> hi
[13:29] <JennyBlueBird> captine, what graphics card are you using ?
[13:30] <larst> can sb. tell me what package creates the group 'sambashare'?
[13:30] <deadbeef> hey guys, anyone successfully using an usb wimax stick on ubuntu/debian ?
[13:30] <captine> Think I need to reinstall xorg and get Intel graphics drivers working
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !samba|lars
[13:30] <larst> cfhowlett, it is not enough for me
[13:31] <JennyBlueBird> captine, you could try to rename your xorg.conf ( if you have one ) , and then just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:31] <JennyBlueBird> but I really dunno, just what I would try if my X borked
[13:31] <smee> does anyone know how to make the refresh rate stay after a reboot? same problem in ubuntu 12.10 aand 13.04
[13:32] <JennyBlueBird> smee, what drivers ?
[13:32] <smee> intel
[13:32] <JennyBlueBird> many of these graphics issues people have are really dependent on your card and such , so it's a good idea to mention
[13:33] <JennyBlueBird> smee, how are you choosing the refresh rate ?
[13:33] <JennyBlueBird> are you using the GUI and it just reverts when you reboot ?
[13:33] <captine> Jennybluebird, don't have xorg.conf.  tried dpkg reconfig but nothing. Have i7 with integrated Intel graphics and optimus
[13:33] <JennyBlueBird> captine, ouch , any idea how it broke ?
[13:34] <JennyBlueBird> Did it just fail one day or did you do something funny and it went wrong ?
[13:34] <smee> Jennybluebird: intel sandybridge 2000. only way I can find is by using xrandr -r. The monitor resolution page does not show refresh rates
[13:34] <iceroot> what is a UUID_SUB? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1670840/
[13:34] <captine> Jennybluebird, one word... Stupidity. Lol. Installed kubuntubdesktop then tried to remove and go back to stock unity by following some instructions from ubotu thing
[13:34] <JennyBlueBird> Well, if it is any consolation , all you guys with graphics issues at least have functioning graphics cards. I don't even get to see the BIOS memcheck :P
[13:35] <JennyBlueBird> captine, ah yea, that happens
[13:35] <JennyBlueBird> captine, how much horribleness would it be to just do a fresh install of ubuntu ?
[13:35] <JennyBlueBird> captine, because frankly that is the easiest :P
[13:36] <slinnky> god damn airport wifi sucks
[13:36] <micha634> yo
[13:37] <captine> Jennybluebird, can do that. Just need to understand if my home partition which is currently encrypted will pose any issue
[13:37] <JennyBlueBird> captine, do you have a backup of the keyfile ?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> captine, upon reinstalling, it will again be encrypted ... make SURE you've noted the passwords in case you them
[13:38] <JennyBlueBird> also, it's generally a VERY good idea to have backups of important stuff
[13:38] <captine> Jennybluebird, I have the long long long string it have me in a libre office doc. Not to secure, I know
[13:39] <JennyBlueBird> captine, uhm, on another computer ?
[13:39] <captine> Jennybluebird, am sending it to vps as I type
[13:40] <JennyBlueBird> what I'm on about is that if you lose the key or accidentally delete it without having a backup then that's all the encrypted data gone bye bye
[13:40] <girvo> hi all
[13:40] <girvo> I've install Fluxbox on a vanilla 12.10 install
[13:40] <girvo> and I have no sound when logged in
[13:41] <girvo> I've checked alsamixer, and everything is fine there, except it defaults to a digital output card
[13:41] <girvo> I have to pick the other card manually in the mixer
[13:41] <girvo> apart from that, all vol levels are right, but it doesnt play anything
[13:41] <girvo> any ideas?
[13:42] <_nedR> bekks .. are you busy?
[13:43] <SunSoul> Morning all. I am having an issue with my card reader, or multi card reader rather in Xubuntu. The OS sees the card, because in the file browser, I see my volume, however it is like it will not auto mount. Clicking on the volume does not show my files, instead shows files related to the OS. Suggestions?
[13:44] <captine> Jennybluebird, I also have all backed up on my home server, so should be ok
[13:44] <girvo> Nvermind
[13:44] <girvo> restarted pulseaudio
[13:44] <JennyBlueBird> captine, I'd say just go with a clean install
[13:44] <girvo> and she works
[13:44] <JennyBlueBird> captine, never know what packages are fucked up and cause trouble in the future otherwise
[13:44] <cfhowlett> captine, gotta agree; clean install
[13:45] <BluesKaj> !language | JennyBlueBird
[13:45] <captine> Jennybluebird, thanks. Now I wonder if I should just install 12.10 clean...
[13:45] <cfhowlett> captine, 12.04 is supported for 5 years ...
[13:45] <cfhowlett> LTS
[13:46] <captine> Cfhowlett, I hear you
[13:46] <ioria> SunSoul: i'd say.... try sudo mount volume and check your fstab file
[13:46] <JennyBlueBird> captine, just check the known issues first so you don't run into problems with support for your hardware and such
[13:46] <JennyBlueBird> captine, should probably be fine, but doesn't hurt to check
[13:47] <deadbeef> hey guys, anyone successfully using an usb wimax stick on ubuntu/debian ?
[13:47] <deadbeef> where should i start to make it work
[13:47] <captine> Thanks. 12.10 had better support for my Bluetooth than 12.04, but 12.04 latest updates seemed to fix that
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !hardware|deadbeef    to see if the stick is pre-certified to work...
[13:49] <cfhowlett> captine, 12.04 with backports enabled then ...
[14:00] <jbvp> hi
[14:07] <Avinash> Hello Guys, How can I increase the swap space in my os
[14:09] <AhmedNill> hellow
[14:09] <thiefy> does anyone here use a SSD for their /   and also dual boot windows 7 on that same SSD?
[14:10] <dr_willis> thiefy:  it should not be a problem.
[14:10] <dr_willis> Avinash:  you can add a new swap partition. or add a swap file to work with your swap parttion
[14:10] <KsM> Avinash: https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s2-swap-creating-file.html
[14:10] <dr_willis> !swap
[14:10] <sliddjur> Someone using duplicity here?
[14:11] <thiefy> my point is, on linux i set my / drive to noatime  - i want to do the same in windows. i want to extend the life of my ssd in windows like linux does.
[14:11] <dr_willis> thiefy:  ask in #windows if thats needed
[14:11] <thiefy> swap is used if you run out of ram.... waht if i never run out of ram? any point on a swap partition?
[14:12] <maxygas> hi
[14:12] <thiefy> dr_willis,  theyw on't know what i'm talking about.
[14:12] <KsM> thiefy: hibernation
[14:12] <maxygas> i need some help please
[14:12] <thiefy> i don't hibernate. ever.
[14:12] <KsM> well then you probably don't need swap
[14:12] <thiefy> i don't trust hibernation.
[14:13] <maxygas> use bt5 r3 and if i type ifconfig or iwconfig ,i cant see my ip address
[14:13] <thiefy> i have an old crappy laptop with only 2 gigs of ram... if i keep the OS using less than that two gigs, and i don't hibernate, tehre also is no need for a swap partition on there right? (i feel it takes a lot going on to use 2 gigs of ram)
[14:14] <Avinash> dr_willis: KsM: thanks :)
[14:14] <thiefy> maxygas,  maybe your NIC is not seen by bt5. you do not have any internet interfaces.
[14:14] <ClientAlive> has anyone here installed oracle 11g on ubuntu 12.04?
[14:14] <ClientAlive> I'm stuck at a beginning step and don't know what to do
[14:15] <thiefy> you mean the makers of Java (Just Another Vulnerability Announcement)
[14:15] <KsM> thiefy: no you don't -need- a swap partition, even if you eventually do want/need swap for something you can still make a swap file
[14:15] <maxygas> i see wlan0 wlan1 i have built in wifi card and tl wn722n wifi adapter too
[14:15] <yeats> !behelpful | thiefy
[14:15] <thiefy> thanks ksm... just whenever i install - it's always saying i need one. though i was always thinking i don't really.
[14:15] <dr_willis> backtrack has its own support channels
[14:16] <maxygas> and some work need my ip address dut i cant see it
[14:16] <thiefy> ubottu,  you have no sense of humour.  without good quality jokes, life would be sad.
[14:16] <Gustav_> I don\t get any sound on Linux, can somone help
[14:17] <yeats> ClientAlive: I would ask in #oracle
[14:17] <ClientAlive> ahh
[14:17] <ClientAlive> good idea  :)
[14:17] <maxygas> i installed compat drivers too but nothing
[14:17] <Gustav_> ___
[14:18] <wndsa>  how I can use aptitude to install dependencies of a package?
[14:19] <ClientAlive> omg - 54 nicks in #oracle
[14:19] <Gustav_> i have turned up all sound stuff, but i still get no sound, anybody know how to fix it_
[14:19] <ClientAlive> that's crazzzzy!
[14:20] <nedbat> i don't understand where AppArmor maintains its state.  I remove a profile, restart the OS, and see the program is not in apparmor_status.  Then I put the profile back, and reload apparmor, and it's in the enforce list without me having used aa-enforce.  How can I get the profile into complain mode?
[14:20] <Gustav_> i have turned up all sound stuff, but i still get no sound, anybody know how to fix it_
[14:20] <maxygas> van magyar valaki?
[14:21] <posdifu_> Gustav: check alsa-mixer and pulse settings.
[14:22] <bernardo> Hi everybody! I'm having problems to setup the nvidia driver to my nvidia geforce 650m (optimus). I have the driver and bumblebee installed but nvidia-settings won't work properlly and I can't setup dual screen. Does anyone have a clue?
[14:23] <ClientAlive> my question is pretty basic. Maybe someone can offer some assistance...
[14:23] <ClientAlive> What happens is there are 2 zip files which constitute oracle 11g. It is instructed to unzip them in the same directory and it Is supposed to be I will end up wtih an extracted directory named "database". What actually happens is I end up with 2 extracted folders (of course) one is named "database" and the other is named "database(2)". I don't understand what it is supposed to be like so that I might fix the situation and proceeed.
[14:24] <ClientAlive> Should I move the contents of "database(2)" into "database" and go from there?
[14:24] <wndsa>  how I can use aptitude to install dependencies of a package?
[14:25] <llutz> wndsa: aptitude will install depends if you install a package
[14:25] <Gustav_>  have turned up all sound stuff, but i still get no sound, anybody know how to fix it_
[14:25] <Gustav_> i have turned up all sound stuff, but i still get no sound, anybody know how to fix it_
[14:26] <Gustav_> i have turned up all sound stuff, but i still get no sound, anybody know how to fix it_
[14:28] <kamidi> Gustav_: maybe you should try that same approach with sound? turn up all "sound stuff" several times in a row... that'll show it to behave..
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Gustav_, where did you turn it up ?
[14:28] <wndsa> llutz: I have an old version of wpa_supplicant, and I have been installing dependencies for an hour already. Once, someone told me a usage of aptitude to install dependencies automatically. do you know such aptitude usage?
[14:28] <DoctorDoom> Can anybody help me fix this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:28] <bernardo> Hi everybody! I'm having problems to setup the nvidia driver to my nvidia geforce 650m (optimus). I have the driver and bumblebee installed but nvidia-settings won't work properlly and I can't setup dual screen. Does anyone have a clue? Also, I don't even have a xorg.conf. Is this a problem?
[14:29] <thiefy> kamidi,  what if gustav hit the up arrow and then hit enter every 2 minutes? would that help him?
[14:29] <llutz> wndsa: "old version" as in a version not in the actual repos?
[14:29] <xauth> wndsa: aptitude installs dependencies automatically automatically [sic].
[14:29] <thiefy> bernardo,  hit alt-f2 and type in gksu nvidia-settings
[14:30] <bernardo> thiefy: nvidia-settings doesn't open. The only way to make nvidia-settings run is to use optirun
[14:30] <thiefy> optirun?
[14:30] <llutz> wndsa: "sudo aptitude install wpa_supplicant"   or to fullfill manual installed packages-depends: sudo aptitude -f install
[14:30] <bernardo> thiefy: But even using optirun it will not detect the correct resolution for the main display nor the second display
[14:31] <thiefy> i don't know what an optirun is.
[14:31] <bernardo> thiefy: My videocard has this optimus thing
[14:31] <DoctorDoom> After I had installed the leatest ATI driver, I get this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:31] <thiefy> in a terminal can't you type gksu nvidia-settings      and it'll open up the configuration of it?
[14:31] <bernardo> thiefy: I read in a few forums that in order to have optimus videocards running you have to install bumblebee. This adds this optirun command
[14:32] <bernardo> thiefy: I mean, it opens nvidia-settings, but it says that I don't appear to be using an nvidia videocard
[14:32] <wndsa> xuath, llutz: I have wpa_supplicant 1.0 which I installed by apt-get install before, I need to install wpa_supplicant 2.0 by manual. but I have been installing many dependencies and it does not finish. once someone told me to use aptitude  .... wpa_supplicant then it installed the dependencies. I am trying to find out the command
[14:32] <mine_> How can I save VLC Player downloaded from terminal as setup for future installations?
[14:32] <osmdave2> Hi I have a ubuntu 12.04 sever. It has loads of old commands running that I no longer want. If I reboot they all seem to continue. I think this is so that pages are continued to be serverd. How do I kill everything so I can start with a clean apache server?
[14:33] <thiefy> bernardo,  seems this should do it for that card:
[14:33] <thiefy> bernardo,  http://www.techlw.com/2012/06/install-nvidia-driver-in-ubuntu.html
[14:33] <mine_> How can I save VLC Player downloaded from terminal as setup for future installations?
[14:33] <pimps> hey guys. what's is the app that use the "chat" service in the username part in the top bar? normally says Unnavailable
[14:33] <thiefy> bernardo,  looks pretty straight forward to me.... on that site.
[14:33] <bernardo> thiefy: I have the driver installed. I've tried installing different versions also
[14:34] <pimps> im talking gnome shell
[14:34] <thiefy> mine_ type in a terminal sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:34] <bernardo> thiefy: I've followed this link and a few others that looked more or less the same
[14:34] <bernardo> thiefy: I've also tried to install from the nvidia website instead of from ubuntu repositories, but no luck too...
[14:34] <thiefy> pimps,  hmm, i remember that. that's the program i always get rid of.
[14:34] <thiefy> pimps,  i think it's called empathy.
[14:35] <nedbat> does no one use apparmor?
[14:35] <thiefy> bernardo,  how could you have no luck? there must be something else going on then... something i don't know of.
[14:35] <mine_> thiefy I have installed VLC player using apt-get.My question is if I could save the downloaded files for offline installation on another PC?
[14:36] <TakeItEZ> hrm, why the heck doesn't 12.10 run commands (xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap) neither from ~/.xinitrc nor from ~/.xsessionrc and ignores an /etc/X11/Xmodmap completly? how am i supposed to do my key-remapping?
[14:36] <bernardo> thiefy: There is something really wrong, but I don't know what it is either :/ It seems that a lot of people are having problems with this videocard as well
[14:37] <thiefy> mine, mine_ do you want the install files for another ubuntu computer? or what kind is it?
[14:37] <bernardo> thiefy: Ubuntu didn't even realized I had an nvidia videocard when I had it freshly installed, so I couldn't do the regular automated driver installation
[14:38] <Apocy> Hey there, got a graphics problem here: I have to boot my Ubuntu 12.04 with "nomodeset" (else I'd get a black screen), now I want to install graphic card drivers, but the card on my laptop (intel mobile 4 series) isn't supported by the proprietary drivers. So basically I got two questions: How do I find out which graphics card I have exactly and how to find the right drivers then? (As I...
[14:38] <Apocy> ...understand it, the system currently runs the graphics on software and not hardware right?)
[14:39] <mine_> thiefy: Yes I have downloaded VLC on my Laptop.Want to install it on my Ubuntu PC which is not connect to internet.
[14:39] <Gustav_> BluesKaj i turned it up in the alsamixer
[14:40] <thiefy> mine_,  try this:   http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/
[14:40] <pimps> thiefy i think you're right. and the god damn thing doesnt work lol thanks anyway :D
[14:40] <thiefy> mine_,  put it on a usb drive, and then you can install it on a diff pruter.
[14:41] <thiefy> pimps,  who uses aol messenger or any chat program anymore? if you want google chat, there are other ways, if you want irc, there is xchat.  i see no need for empathy.
[14:41] <mine_> theify: thanks :)
[14:41] <newbie|2> anyone out there who could help me find an MSN messenger client for audio and, if possible, video conferencing?
[14:42] <bernardo> thiefy: Thanks for the help anyways :)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> gust what soundcard ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:42] <thiefy> newbie|2,  microsoft is discontinuing msn messenger. good luck with that.
[14:42] <pimps> i just wanted to know what app uses that, given the fact that its included in the OS. and you're right, i dont use these chat programs. i can go to each one in the respective site.
[14:42] <newbie|2> Well, I mean Windows Live Messenger.
[14:43] <thiefy> pimps,  uninstall taht empathy with your package manager then... heh.
[14:43] <thiefy> newbie|2,  i think that is the same thing... aren't they getting rid of that too? or is it different?
[14:43] <newbie|2> I have a friend who wants to chat with me with some sort of messenger, but who wants to be able - with me or with someone else - to do video chatting
[14:44] <pimps> i will :D
[14:44] <UBIZ> !list
[14:44] <newbie|2> thiefy: It might be, but there is always a way when you want to do something
[14:44] <thiefy> newbie|2,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsLiveMessenger
[14:44] <newbie|2> Life doesn't revolve around Microsoft
[14:44] <newbie|2> thiefy: Thx
[14:44] <newbie|2> bye
[14:44] <thiefy> the power of google...
[14:45] <emdik> hello
[14:45] <emdik> are there any network experts?
[14:46] <lix> Good day. When will LibreOffce 4.0 be included into the stable repo?
[14:46] <thiefy> emdik,  there are, but they hide.
[14:47] <thiefy> lix, doth it matter? no one in this room can answer that unless it has been announced.
[14:47] <donavan01> I need a peice of software to take care of my banking/budget... I need it to be simple to use but still allow it to sync up with my bank accounts ... sort of like quicken but way less confusing im not an accountant... is there anything like that for linux
[14:47] <thiefy> emdik,  just ask your question and hope someone knows the answer.
[14:48] <thiefy> donavan01,  i've heard gnucash is a good program.
[14:48] <emdik> thank you thiefy, I'll try to phrase it
[14:48] <thiefy> emdik,  are you not an english speaker?
[14:49] <emdik> thiefy: I speak a little
[14:49] <thiefy> emdik,  try it in english, if it's too hard to understand, we'll let ya know...
[14:50] <emdik> my problem: I cannot access my laptop from my desktop
[14:50] <donavan01> thiefy ... it looks a little more complex than what I was hoping for ... guess maybe im asking for the impossible when it comes to accounting software
[14:50] <emdik> I am connecting through wifi
[14:50] <emdik> the router managment interface doesn't show my laptop as connected
[14:51] <FrankBullitt> I did a configure, make, make install on a program and it put everything in usr/local instead of the appropriate directories. Can anyone tell me a common reason why this happens?
[14:51] <emdik> we tried with a windows laptop and it is listed as wireless client
[14:51] <scott_z> Question: I have a Dell Inspiron 1750. I have been through all the forums and have found similar problems but either they did not apply or there was no solution. Can someone please help me with getting my build in webcam working? It works fine in 'windows 7'. I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[14:51] <thiefy> donavan01,  quicken can work just fine in linux it seems using WiNE
[14:51] <thiefy> emdik,  doesn't the laptop get on to the internet ok?
[14:52] <emdik> thiefy, I am on the laptop
[14:52] <emdik> with ubuntu 12.10
[14:52] <thiefy> emdik,  do you know the ip address of the desktop?
[14:52] <bernardo> Hi everybody! I'm having problems to setup the nvidia driver to my nvidia geforce 650m (optimus). I have the driver and bumblebee installed but nvidia-settings won't work properlly and I can't setup dual screen. Does anyone have a clue? Also, I don't even have a xorg.conf. Is this a problem?
[14:53] <thiefy> bernardo,  i would have to think the last part there is quite a major problem.
[14:53] <emdik> thiefy: the internal or external? I can ping my desktop properly but I cannot get back to the laptop
[14:53] <bernardo> thiefy: I think so too... As I mentioned, a lot of people seem to be having problems with this videocard and linux, so it should be something pretty hard to fix
[14:54] <invisime> is there a command line utility that captures keyboard input from one terminal and outputs it to another?
[14:54] <invisime> or would that just be some kind of output redirect hackery with echo?
[14:55] <thiefy> emdik,  in a terminal type      service ufw status
[14:55] <thiefy> bernardo,  yeah, i agree. i'm not that smart though, i jsut can do the easy questions...
[14:55] <emdik> thiefy: could the firewall be blocking the routing? I didn't have any problems with 12.04
[14:56] <bernardo> thiefy: hahaha, all this videocard stuff is pretty complicated...
[14:56] <nedbat> if i wanted to see all the filesystem activity of a process, strace would be the tool to use?  Is there something better or more convenient?
[14:56] <bernardo> thiefy: I made it work with the VGA cable instead of HDMI!
[14:56] <emdik> invisime: what do you want do exactly? Maybe you could use a named pipe
[14:57] <bernardo> thiefy: I just tried to play around with xamdr and I noticed it was detecting my vga connection but not the hdmi, so when I plugged the vga cable it worked
[14:58] <thiefy> emdik,  i doubt it would block it, i was not sure though.
[14:58] <invisime> emdik: I have a headless server that I use for my media center. it runs xbmc. I can ssh to it with my laptop, but once there, it would be convenient to have a utility that captures my keyboard input and pipes it somehow to xbmc. any idea if something like that can even be done?
[14:59] <emdik> invisime: do you want to have terminal-like access to xbmc or maybe use keyboard shortcuts
[14:59] <thiefy> invisime,  you want to type in a local terminal and have it put in whatever you type in a terminal on your xbmc server?
[15:00] <thiefy> err, maybe that was to emdik
[15:00] <ihre> Does Steam depend on XRandR? I cant seem to start any Source games with Nvidia Xinerama (Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0" and PROBLEM: You appear to have OpenGL 0.0.0, but we need at least 2.0.0!)
[15:00] <invisime> emdik: basically, I just don't want to have to have my laptop and a bluetooth keyboard to juggle. I'd rather juggle an ssh terminal and whatever else I'm doing.
[15:00] <UbuntuDeb> Will be an istalled beta disto a stable one when I update it if the stable version released?
[15:00] <VlanX> my 12.04 system doesn't feel like loading any of the two NIC that i have... before i did a reboot it was fine. Could anybody help me understand what's going on?
[15:00] <invisime> thiefy: precisely.
[15:00] <andrey_> hi all
[15:01] <bernardo> thify: Thanks man, I'll try fixing the driver later again. Cya
[15:01] <thiefy> invisime,  i'm confused. if you jsut ssh into the server, you can type commands that way can you not?
[15:02] <emdik> invisime: so you need the keys through X (I guess xbmc is using that)
[15:02] <invisime> thiefy: right, I can type cli commands on the media server. but I want it to just capture keyboard input instead. so that when, on my laptop, I have the ssh window active, my keystrokes make it to xbmc.
[15:02] <emdik> invisime: I used to have a setup where I ran mplayer on my computer from my laptop
[15:02] <invisime> emdik: I believe so. it's set up to run in appliance mode, so I'm not sure 100%.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> invisime, why are you running xbmc on a headless server , xbmc is a gui app
[15:04] <thiefy> uhh, dude. i would think his xbmc would be plugged into a tv...
[15:04] <thiefy> hah.
[15:04] <invisime> correct.
[15:04] <invisime> not sure if that makes it de-qualify as headless.
[15:04] <invisime> but point is, I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed.
[15:04] <thiefy> no, i know what you mean invisime i do the same thing...
[15:04] <BluesKaj> yeah , then it's not headless , is it
[15:04] <thiefy> invisime,  what's it do on boot? i'm wondering if i wanna try the setup you have.
[15:05] <thiefy> it is headless as far as his usage is.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> and i'm not a dude
[15:05] <thiefy> prove it.
[15:05] <invisime> thiefy: don't be a creeper.
[15:05] <thiefy> invisime,  seems like you want to use your laptop or somethign as like a remote for the xbmc right?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> i don't have to :)
[15:06] <emdik> I am looking for input on what happened to my laptop with the upgrade to 12.10: I cannot see my laptop from other computers now, although the internet works just fine
[15:06] <invisime> thiefy: yeah. but because the web interface blows, I just want my laptop keyboard input to go to xbmc sometimes.
[15:06] <DoctorDoom> After I had installed the leatest ATI driver, I get this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Someone know hhow Can I fix it?
[15:06] <invisime> thiefy: for my setup I used this scandinavian guy's script: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=141369
[15:07] <thiefy> invisime,  what do you type into xbmc? i can see making the mouse control xbmc to be useful, but what do you do with the keyboard?
[15:07] <DoctorDoom> After I had installed the leatest ATI driver, I get this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Someone know hhow Can I fix it?
[15:07] <invisime> thiefy: I use keyboard for all my xbmc navigation. arrow keys, context menus, the works. I just do it with arrow keys and the xbmc keyboard shortcuts.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> I run a media server connected to tv , but I have kubuntu installed on it so I can accesss with a wireless KB and mouse , but idon'tneed xbmc
[15:08] <thiefy> oh, i havne't tried using jsut a keyboard to control it. i'll have to try that. i seemed to think having jsut a mouse to control it was all you needed.
[15:09] <thiefy> no one needs xbmc. but it is a cool program.   i have played movies on my tv for like 13 years. and i just discovered xbmc last week, and it is awesome.
[15:10] <invisime> BluesKaj: I can access with a wireless keyboard and mouse as well. I just want fewer devices to juggle. if I'm sitting here with my laptop anyway, it seems silly to need a second physical keyboard just to control my media center.
[15:10] <DoctorDoom> thiefy: I agree.. I like so much XBMC.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> xbmc is ok if you don't mind all the menu levels and it's need to take control of all media
[15:10] <invisime> I need some kind of virtual keyboard cli app.
[15:10] <invisime> BluesKaj: if you use one of the decent skins, you can decrease the menu complexity a lot
[15:10] <thiefy> how does it take control of all media?
[15:11] <thiefy> invisime,  what skin do you recommend to simplify it?
[15:11] <llutz> old TV, raspberryPI, xbmx, android-tablet with Yatse - nice toy
[15:11] <DoctorDoom> syncronize!
[15:11] <invisime> thiefy: I'm using aeon nox.
[15:11] <invisime> it's not the simplest, but it is one of the most configurable.
[15:12] <thiefy> i'll switch to that aeon and see how she be... thanks.
[15:12] <thiefy> i put xbmc on my friends computer - he isn't good with computers, so i want a simple interface for him to use.
[15:12] <invisime> I used it to configure my main menu to have top-level options for tv and movies as separate entries instead of both of them being under "video".
[15:12] <DoctorDoom> After I had installed the leatest ATI driver, I get this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Someone know hhow Can I fix it?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> invisime, I use a 15 ft /5M usb cable with the transceiver close by the KB and mouse , they act like a remote in terms of accessing media on the server , but that may not be suitable for you situation
[15:12] <invisime> thiefy: look into kiosk mode then.
[15:13] <thiefy> is that a setting? kiosk mode....
[15:13] <emdik> doctordoom: did you check the compatibility of the driver with your version of ubuntu?
[15:14] <thiefy> if i classify something as TV, i want it to be under TV, not under videos. can i do that? same for movies, i don't want them under videos either. just 'movies' would be good.
[15:14] <invisime> thiefy: yep. it locks out configuration changes to the view. you can also set up multiple profiles. so that you have admin access and for someone else it just runs in kiosk mode. that way they can't get their configuration all screwed up. :-P
[15:14] <thiefy> cool. imma do taht.
[15:14] <invisime> thiefy: yep, that's pretty easy to do with skinning configuration.
[15:14] <DoctorDoom> emdik: I appreciate the answer. Yes. My system is the 12.04.
[15:14] <thiefy> i'll have to play with the options.
[15:15] <emdik> doctordoom: did you install it through the software center?
[15:15] <invisime> BluesKaj: yeah, I don't have any range problems with my existing wireless devices, I just don't want to have to have two keyboards to juggle. there's already one built in to my laptop. I should be able to ssh to the machine, run a virtual keyboard utility and then anything I type in that window registers as a keystroke to xbmc. I just need to know how to obtain or script together that virtual keyboard...
[15:16] <DoctorDoom> emdik: I followed this instructions: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/news/amd-catalyst-13-2-beta-3-driver-up-to-300-performance/
[15:16] <captine> Hi there. Just finished fresh install 12.04. Am confused as nvidia kernel module and vdpau something are showing as restricted driver options... I have optimus nvidia laptop, and have never seen this before
[15:17] <DoctorDoom> !nvidia | captine
[15:17] <invisime> I think I might want to use xte.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> no need for 2 KBs or using ssh on my setup invisime , simple and direct , but I suppose xbmc is best for your setup
[15:18] <thiefy> captine,  you on a android phone?
[15:19] <invisime> BluesKaj: yeah, it's more or less the center-piece of my setup. that, or my *actually* headless data server. I can't see making major overhauls to either of them at this point.
[15:19] <thiefy> BluesKaj,  how are you doing what he wants to so simply?
[15:20] <DoctorDoom> emdik: did you saw the link?
[15:20] <evon> I have ubuntu 12.04.  Is there anything I have to do to upgrade to 12.04.2 or does it do it automatically?
[15:20] <bekks> evon: Just run the reular updates.
[15:20] <FucxAmerican> Fucking american
[15:20] <evon> bekks. Thanks Just wanted to make sure.
[15:20] <captine> Doctordoom, thanks. Just normally I install bumblebee and not the restricted drivers. Was just wondering if something has changed with the need to use bumblebee
[15:21] <thiefy> invisime,  what about synergy?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> no ssh required here thiefy , no laptop , just wirelss KB and mouse , but I do have kubuntu installed on the server
[15:21] <FucxAmerican> LAPFUCKTOP
[15:21] <oldude67> !language > FucxAmerican
[15:21] <thiefy> hah
[15:21] <BluesKaj> some kick that jerk
[15:21] <BluesKaj> body
[15:22] <thiefy> he needs a hug.
[15:22] <bekks> thiefy: From a bear. ;)
[15:22] <BluesKaj> yeah ...go ahead
[15:22] <invisime> thanks, oldude67. ;-)
[15:22] <thiefy> kubuntu is not greater than gnome ubuntu mister.
[15:22] <Stars>  mine 3tb drive does not regiconized from ubuntu system can someone plz help?
[15:22] <bekks> Stars: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[15:22] <FucxAmerican> Koreaian FUCK American
[15:22] <Stars> it see it but won't let me format
[15:22] <thiefy> don't you need to use GPT with some drive over 2TB?
[15:23] <invisime> DJones, ftw.
[15:23] <Stars> 12.04
[15:23] <bekks> thiefy: Yes.
[15:23] <DoctorDoom> matanya: I have it too and you have to configure the update to newest versions in the update menu.
[15:23] <Stars> bekks, is 12.04
[15:23] <invisime> I like to think that the D stands for Dr. and DJones is actually Harrison Ford.
[15:24] <bekks> Stars: Did you create a partition table, etc. on your drive already?
[15:24] <thiefy> DJones,  the secret Op....
[15:24] <BluesKaj> thiefy, kubuntu is a matter of choice for me , I'm pointing out that i use a normal pc OS , not a server OS
[15:24] <Stars> bekks, yes i did, but won't let me apply to it
[15:25] <invisime> ok. so leaving the keyboard issue aside for the moment, I'm having some kind of runlevel or permissions error or something.
[15:25] <bekks> Stars: who is "it"? And which error message do you get?
[15:25] <thiefy> BlueEagle,  i'm contemplating that myself. which way to do it on an old crappy laptop...
[15:25] <invisime> xbmc has sound.
[15:25] <invisime> and if I use ssh to kill xbmc and start zsnes, zsnes has sound.
[15:25] <invisime> but if I use the launcher within xbmc to launch zsnes, no sound.
[15:26] <invisime> added difficulty: I have to use the usb sound card because the onboard card... well, let's just say it no longer has audio jacks attached to it and leave it at that.
[15:27] <bekks> invisime: Just say "I broke it." :)
[15:27] <sama> how can i scan open port on my pc...
[15:27] <invisime> ;-)
[15:28] <DoctorDoom> After I had installed the leatest ATI driver, I get this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Someone know hhow Can I fix it? I saw the intrctions here: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/news/amd-catalyst-13-2-beta-3-driver-up-to-300-performance/.
[15:28] <thiefy> DJones,  /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@59.49.245.107
[15:28] <thiefy> then do your kick again.
[15:28] <thiefy> sama go to grc.com/shieldsup
[15:29] <Korean> Fuck American
[15:29] <rd-x68> hey friends
[15:29] <thiefy> invisime,  did your dog trip over your audio cables and murder the headphone ports on your soundcard on your laptop?
[15:29] <invisime> actually, I know exactly how it happened. the xbmc machine is an old laptop of mine from when I was in school. and I had problems with remembering to turn off sound while in class. so I just had a worn down headphone jack plugged into it all the time. that eventually suffered some kind of physical trauma while it was in my backpack.
[15:29] <thiefy> DJones,  /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@59.49.245.107
[15:29] <thiefy> DJones,  /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@59.49.245.107
[15:29] <invisime> thiefy: yes... my dog did it. :-P
[15:29] <thiefy> invisime,  how did i know that?
[15:29] <rd-x68> just for knowledge need to know how to hack php websites
[15:29] <DoctorDoom> korean: North or south?
[15:30] <thiefy> hah
[15:30] <rd-x68> anyone
[15:30] <xauth> Bah. grc.com do too much scare mongering by far.
[15:30] <mbeierl> rd-x68: this is not the place for that.  please move on
[15:30] <bekks> rd-x68: By exploiting security issues. Which is not part of this channel.
[15:30] <thiefy> rd-x68,  do you really think anyone is going to answer that?
[15:30] <invisime> rd-x68: if you want to do some white-hat testing, there are several tools out there that test for known exploits.
[15:30] <DoctorDoom> Probably North, right..
[15:30] <thiefy> rd-x68,  go gets ye some backtrack 5
[15:30] <rd-x68> thanks
[15:30] <xauth> North Korean?
[15:31] <invisime> despite the depiction of linux in the movies, not everyone who uses it does so so they can be a s00per 1337 h4xx0r.
[15:31] <DoctorDoom> Socialism... Is it X capitalism... The history. Nuclear projects...
[15:31] <k1l> DoctorDoom: xauth lets stick to technical ubuntu support in here, please
[15:31] <invisime> but anyway, I have an .asoundrc file with a directive to treat the usb card as the default for everything.
[15:32] <thiefy> sure it is invisime - is there a reaver for windows?
[15:32] <thiefy> i love reaver. but i don't think two of my neighbours with WPS like reaver too much.
[15:32] <DoctorDoom> k1l: A little information is essential.. The korean is bother the community.. Talk to him!
[15:32] <invisime> with cygwin, maybe?
[15:33] <invisime> oh. one of my favorite open source projects of all time: get wine to work on cygwin.
[15:33] <invisime> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOnWindows
[15:33] <Guest23564> how can I download films?
[15:33] <mbeierl> In lububntu 12.10, stock distro, every time I want to join a new wifi network, it requests my password to make modifications to the system.  What do I need to change to stop this?  Stock ubuntu has some sort of policy that allows users to join wifi without privilege escalation.
[15:33] <thiefy> Guest23564,  i think itunes sells them.
[15:33] <thiefy> not sure about the ubuntu store though...
[15:33] <invisime> I hear amazon.com has some download capability.
[15:34] <thiefy> who pays for movies these days anyways?
[15:34] <invisime> also there are many freely available films in the form of streaming content.
[15:34] <invisime> I do, thiefy. because certainly I am not a pirate.
[15:34] <invisime> :-|
[15:34] <k1l> !warez
[15:34] <DoctorDoom> After I had installed the leatest ATI driver, I get this error: ~$ amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Someone know hhow Can I fix it? I saw the intrctions here: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/news/amd-catalyst-13-2-beta-3-driver-up-to-300-performance/.
[15:34] <thiefy> me also. piracy is bad.
[15:35] <janisozaur> what would i use for video calling? are there any other, preferably libre, alternatives to skype?
[15:35] <DoctorDoom> Can anybody see my problem, please. I am boring!
[15:35] <thiefy> we're with you mr. bot. piracy takes money out of tom cruise's pockets.
[15:36] <invisime> janisozaur: I use google hangouts through chrome on ubuntu 12.04 on a weekly basis. seems to work pretty well.
[15:36] <boern> hello guys, im just installing ubuntu on my nexus 7.. i did everything.. but now im installting the userdata image and its loading for a long time now.. normally it should work in 80 seconds
[15:36] <invisime> incidentally, wine on windows? not as dumb as it sounds. wine still supports some things that windows proper doesn't support still.
[15:36] <boern> http://pastebin.com/qTJP5xbL
[15:37] <duncan-nz> is there a seperate channel for ubuntu-server questions?
[15:37] <Guest23564> I am not English, and so I can't speak English very good... where have I to go to download films? Have I to go to Canal List?
[15:37] <janisozaur> invisime, tried that, but quality seemed to be poor. i have logitech c910 on [my] end and c920 (with hw h264) on the other [parents, windows, not as tech-savvy, but ok]
[15:37] <janisozaur> !server | duncan-nz
[15:37] <DoctorDoom> I will have to reinstall my system and try with myself how to resolve it. I need support but nobody can help.. It is so sad!
[15:37] <janisozaur> invisime, is your experience any better?
[15:38] <DoctorDoom> Bye guys.... Good day.
[15:38] <bekks> DoctorDoom: Why do you have to reinstall your system?
[15:38] <duncan-nz> Guest23564: what you're asking for is illegal. Please ask somewhere else.
[15:38] <k1l> boern: try #ubuntu-arm for arm specific support
[15:38] <boern> ok, i made it
[15:38] <invisime> janisozaur: I haven't had any complaints.
[15:38] <duncan-nz> thanks janisozaur
[15:39] <boern> writing 'userdata'...
[15:39] <boern> OKAY [ 40.658s]
[15:39] <boern> finished. total time: 960.941s
[15:39] <boern> ok it just took a long time
[15:39] <omkar_> ey guys
[15:39] <boern> thank xou :)
[15:39] <k1l> !fr | Guest23564
[15:39] <DJones> Guest23564: If you go to netflix etc, you'll be able to purchase films for download, please don't ask here again, we don't support piracy
[15:39] <darkmutt> why can't I lock some applications to the unity sidebar after launching them? the moment i close them they simply dissappear?
[15:39] <omkar_> i have installed apache2 and php but for some reason php scripts are still displayed as text
[15:39] <janisozaur> invisime, are you able to hangout in hd?
[15:39] <Guest23564> Sorry... I thinked on these Canals I can download films...
[15:40] <omkar_> i have added the directive which says to execute the php script
[15:40] <invisime> janisozaur: no. but I also don't have an hd webcam. all of my hardware is >5 years old except my phone and my firesale hp touchpad.
[15:40] <boern> on the ubuntu homepage it took 80 seconds and on my computer it took 960 seconds
[15:40] <k1l> !list | Guest23564
[15:40] <boern> but my computer isnt that bad
[15:41] <bekks> boern: What are you trying to do?
[15:41] <boern> but, who cares, its working :)
[15:41] <boern> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[15:41] <janisozaur> invisime, apart from webcam (i suppose) same here. 5+ year old laptop. thanks for help, but i'm looking to better my hd experience ;)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> invisime, check /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and make sure your usb soundcard driver is set as , "options (drivername) index=0' , that setting will make it stick for all media that use audio.
[15:41] <k1l> boern: again, that support is in #ubuntu-arm since its not a regular ubuntu system
[15:42] <boern> ok thank you very much
[15:42] <invisime> BluesKaj: I'll try that. thanks. :-)
[15:42] <Guest23564> And... Where must I type these choses, please? Here?
[15:42] <janisozaur> invisime, still, 2.4ghz t7700 c2d should handle 720p video without major hiccups. lousy ms-owned skype :(
[15:43] <k1l> Guest23564: last warning now: no warez here. better ask in the italian channel #ubuntu-it if you have problems to understand english
[15:44] <Guest23564> ok... thanks!
[15:45] <fluitfries> hi all.  what's the proper way to update my lubuntu from 11 to 12?
[15:45] <fluitfries> do i need to get the ISO?
[15:46] <k1l> fluitfries: which ubuntu exact? there are 2 releases each year
[15:46] <BluesKaj> fluitfries, 11 what to 12 what
[15:46] <k1l> fluitfries: what does lsb_release -r say?
[15:47] <fluitfries> k1l, umm...  it says 12.04...  but i don't remember updating...
[15:47] <fluitfries> k1l, i started with v 11 last year
[15:49] <BluesKaj> fluitfries, well, somebody upgraded if it wasn't you
[15:49] <fluitfries> BluesKaj, would this happen via software updates?
[15:50] <fluitfries> i always thought that software updates did NOT bring you to the next big release
[15:50] <Guest23564> How can I go to Ubuntu-it, so to the Italian Channel?
[15:51] <k1l> !it | Guest23564
[15:51] <alien2050> fluitfries: You may need to go in your settings and prevent it from doing a distro-upgrade, it's in the options
[15:52] <Guest23564> Thanks
[15:52] <fluitfries> alien2050, no, it's ok.  i WANTED to update, i just thought i had to do it manually with an ISO.  :P
[15:53] <BluesKaj> fluitfries, not sure , unless unattended upgrades is installed
[15:53] <fluitfries> k, thanks for the answers all!
[15:53] <alien2050> fluitfries: nah it will do it by itself... but sometimes it does weird things like screw up some of your desktop preferences... personnaly I prefer doing clean install, but if it works then great
[15:53] <BluesKaj> I never use a package manager to upgrade releases , hence my uncertainty
[15:54] <fluitfries> alien2050, the only thing that's broken on this install is my JACK stuff, i can't use any midi/audio creation apps, though just audio output works fine.
[15:54] <fluitfries> but since i don't know when this distro update happened, i don't know if it's related
[15:55] <alien2050> fluitfries:  I usually prefer JACK as well, I use ubuntustudio as my basic release then sometime upgrade to kx-studio which is really nice for music production
[15:56] <fluitfries> alien2050, have you tried apodio distro or dream studio?
[15:56] <fluitfries> i've wondered if those are any good
[15:56] <zhengyi> fluitfries: wouldn't trolling through /var/log/dpkg.log or similar give you some clues?
[15:56] <alien2050> fluitfries: it depends what packages you use, but I've noticed since ubuntu 10 and 11 they changed the way midi stuff works internally, doesn't appear in /dev/as before
[15:56] <alien2050> fluitfries: nope, didn't know those... debian/ubuntu based ?
[15:57] <fluitfries> alien2050, i think both are yes.  dream def.  i had the iso's downloaded but never got around to booting them.
[15:57] <fluitfries> zhengyi, do you mean for troubleshooting JACK?
[15:57] <J4nus> which solution do you use for the backup ? I'm searching for a remote backup solutions
[15:57] <k1l> fluitfries: that topic would suit into ##linux or our offtopic channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:57] <alien2050> cadence is great for troubleshooting JACK btw
[15:58] <bekks> J4nus: There are zillions of solutions for remote backups.
[15:58] <fluitfries> k1l, kk
[15:58] <zhengyi> fluitfries: well, in the sense of figuring out when the upgrade happened, anyway
[15:58] <fluitfries> alien2050, cool, i'll look at that.
[15:58] <fluitfries> zhengyi, i see what you mean.
[15:58] <alien2050> well dream studio is more/less the same than ubuntu studio but ubuntustudio is officially supported
[15:59] <alien2050> though I rarely use support other than asking questions here sometimes :)
[15:59] <SpiderFudge> I am confused with the ubuntu services in 10.04, when I look in rcconf and sysv-rc-config ssh server is disabled but it is working somehow...
[15:59] <bekks> J4nus: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/backups.html
[15:59] <fluitfries> alien2050, yea same.
[16:01] <alien2050> fluitfries: one thing I see though is they seem to package their own ISO and not let you upgrade through ppa like kx-studio, at least they have 32 bit AND 64 bit isos which is good, I'll probably give it a try someday
[16:01] <alien2050> thanks for the tip
[16:01] <janisozaur> has anyone tried ekiga with HD video calls?
[16:01] <k1l> alien2050: lets stick to supported ubuntu versions in here, thanks
[16:01] <zhengyi> SpiderFudge: Upstart? Look in /etc/init for an ssh.conf or openssh.conf or similar
[16:02] <Akuw> hi
[16:02] <SpiderFudge> zhengyi, okay thanks
[16:04] <gabriele_> #ubuntu
[16:05] <Akuw> i have my iptables configured this way   http://www.pastebin.ca/2314752
[16:05] <hrishikesh> <3 ubuntu
[16:06] <Akuw> but every time i want to connect to internet is blocked, so i have to use      --->   sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
[16:06] <Akuw> is the a script to block all incoming trafic allowing only out trafic
[16:07] <bekks> Akuw: You cant get any data from outside when blocking all incoming traffic.
[16:08] <alien2050> Akuw: have a look at http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-4-block-all-incoming-traffic-but-allow-ssh.html   it gives a pretty good example; I remember a lifetime ago I had similar issues
[16:08] <bunjee> what is the "administrative passowrD"?.....please advise.....
[16:09] <bekks> bunjee: There is no such password.
[16:09] <bunjee> password
[16:09] <bekks> !root | bunjee
[16:09] <invisime> BluesKaj: I tried making snd-usb-audio index 0 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf. but now sound doesn't even work in xbmc.
[16:09] <visof> hello
[16:09] <teng_401> #ubuntu_cn
[16:09] <alien2050> bunjee: try "sudo su -" in a terminal
[16:09] <GeekSquid> !cn
[16:09] <hhbuitrago> Tried to update my ubuntu install but it failed when could not resolve the country level archive.  Also tried with other several countries, and none resolved dns.  Is there some know problem with this?
[16:09] <visof> how can troubleshoot slowness of ubuntu ?
[16:09] <zykotick9> bunjee: DON'T do what alien2050 just suggested
[16:09] <k1l> bunjee: there is no need for a root password
[16:10] <teng_401> thanks
[16:10] <k1l> alien2050: not recommended here. no need for a root password
[16:10] <alien2050> zykotick9: and why is that ?
[16:10] <zykotick9> alien2050: learn to use ubuntu properly
[16:10] <bekks> alien2050: sudo su - is a pretty bad idea. And sudo -i does exactly the same.
[16:10] <bekks> !root > alien2050
[16:10] <k1l> alien2050: we have sudo and a not enabled root password
[16:11] <gabriele_> sudo -s
[16:11]  * SonOfGod Boa Tarde 
[16:11] <bunjee> this is what I'm having trouble with - gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <zykotick9> gabriele_: while "sudo -s" is very similar to "sudo -i" i think the -i is suggested...
[16:11] <alien2050> whaa ???? how does it enable root password again ?
[16:11] <bekks> bunjee: Which trouble?
[16:11] <bekks> alien2050: No need to do so.
[16:11] <zykotick9> !notroot | alien2050
[16:12] <zykotick9> !noroot | alien2050
[16:12] <k1l> gabriele_: the -s in not the propper way. it misses some settings. so dont recommend it
[16:12] <korba> !root
[16:13] <compdoc> "sudo su -" does not enable a root password. You dont normally have to use this command, but I have had to do this very occasionally
[16:13] <bekks> compdoc: There is no need to do so - there is sudo -i
[16:13] <alien2050> that's what I'm saying...
[16:13] <BluesKaj> invisime, is snd-usb-audio the correct syntax for the usb audio module/driver ?
[16:14] <gabriele_> kil: ah... thanks, I didn't know it...
[16:14] <Esokrates> I have tested btrfs filesystem on raring on an usb and i am impressed :-)
[16:14] <alien2050> it does not enable a root password..... although I understand what you guys mean... trying to forget about it
[16:14] <zykotick9> alien2050: "su -" means switch to root, and pretend a login.  you don't want to be messing with that as root account is not used on ubuntu.  "sudo -i" will switch to a root-like account properly.
[16:15] <k1l> alien2050: compdoc the ubuntu way is to use sudo -i if it is needed to get a root shell. so lets stick to this here in the official support
[16:15] <invisime> BluesKaj: I really don't know. I would suspect not. the usb sound card is a completely separate chip. I think I've got that covered though with my .asoundrc one-liner: "pcm.!default hw:Device" where hw:Device is the aplay -l designation of the USB sound card.
[16:16] <alien2050> zykotick9, k1l : thx I get what you're saying
[16:16] <GeekSquid> invisime: sounds like pulseaudio again, isn't that why we have alsa
[16:16] <invisime> GeekSquid: I'm not sure that I am using pulse...
[16:17] <janisozaur> Esokrates, are there advantages over likes of f2fs for usb (flash, i assume) storage?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> ok invisime , obviously your asoundrc file should take precedence , so just delete the line I gave from asla-base.conf
[16:17] <GeekSquid> invisime: see if you have it installed, it is the default
[16:17] <gabriele_> I have got a problem with skype and my webcam...
[16:17] <invisime> GeekSquid: I'm running ubuntu 12.10 minimal with xbmc installed as an appliance according to this guy's tutorial: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=141369
[16:18] <invisime> BluesKaj: no need. I'll just copy back the .bak file I created. ;-)
[16:18] <Delux> I have two RAID5s and had a drive failed. I have replaced the drive and want it added back to the RAID5s. Do I need to fdisk the new drive or will the MDADM just rebuild it?
[16:18] <gabriele_> skype doesn't see my webcam... I can't see my face, but I see black... how can I resolve it?
[16:19] <bekks> Delux: That depends on your disk layout for your RAIDs.
[16:19] <invisime> BluesKaj: upon restarting alsa and xbmc, I have sound in xbmc again. but it probably still doesn't work in zsnes from xbmc since I didn't change anything. and it probably does work if I close xbmc and start zsnes on its own.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> cool invisime , my apologies, didn't mean to screw up your sound , I don't use an asoundrc file , so i guess that's why mine works
[16:19] <Esokrates> janisozaur, flash storage yes
[16:19] <janisozaur> !paste | gabriele_
[16:19] <Opiate> I'm trying to install TF2, but it keeps telling me I don't have enough hard drive space, even though I just cleared up like 30GB.
[16:19] <Delux> bekks - two partitions - sba1 and sdb2
[16:20] <janisozaur> please post your /var/log/syslog (after unplugging and replugging your webcam)
[16:20] <Esokrates> janisozaur, with compression the responsiveness is much better in high io situations
[16:20] <jrib> Opiate: output of « df -h » on pastebin?
[16:20] <datruth> i think im going to give up on ident
[16:20] <bekks> Delux: Then you have to create that layout on the new disk, too, of course.
[16:20] <alien2050> Opiate: steam for linux ? Check your home dir it tries to installe in your home directory
[16:20] <BluesKaj> invisime, I'm not familiar with zsnes
[16:21] <Opiate> Alright
[16:21] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: zsnes = probably the best snes emulator on gnu/linux ;)
[16:21] <alien2050> Opiate: for some reason it needs to install TF2 to your home; I did not find a way to change it (yet)
[16:21] <Esokrates> janisozaur, compared to ext4
[16:21] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, what is it ?
[16:21] <janisozaur> Esokrates, i used to have one of my data volumes btrfs formatted, but performance was mediocre... that's on 12.04 with own 3.5.0 kernel, 5400rpm laptop hdd
[16:22] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: it plays supernintendo games...
[16:22] <janisozaur> Esokrates, switching back to ext4 helped a lot.
[16:22] <Opiate> My home folder only has 10GB available. I have windows installed on this computer as well, and I delete the 30gb from my windows desktop
[16:22] <janisozaur> Esokrates, how about endurance?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, oh , ok , never played those either :)
[16:23] <zykotick9> invisime: fyi, alsa isn't the greatest at sharing.  it depends on your actual sound hardware, IF you can play more then one source at a time.  launching zsnes from inside running xbmc might not work out (again, depending on your hardware)
[16:23] <invisime> zykotick9: I suspect that's exactly my problem, but I have no idea how to fix it.
[16:23] <alien2050> Opiate: for now it will not let you change the drive to install it... it needs to put it to .local or something
[16:23] <Esokrates> janisozaur, have not tested enough yet ... i have it installed today due to an ext4 bug (jbd2 process kept writing to external fs after using cp )
[16:24] <zykotick9> invisime: you might not be able too... good luck.
[16:24] <Opiate> Okay, how do I do that
[16:24] <zykotick9> invisime: or, use pulse ;)
[16:24] <wriggly> When I call telinit 1 to switch to runlevel 1, it works, BUT the ubuntu startup splash-screen with the 4 dots is displayed, and the console is invisible. Typing telinit 5 restarts runlevel 5 correcly, but how can I get to runlevel 1 WITHOUT the splash screen?
[16:24] <invisime> zykotick9: I'd love to use pulse. if it would work. I have no idea how to do the switch.
[16:25] <invisime> but I'm late for my weekly pathfinder game, so I'll have to look into that next time I have time. thanks for your help, everyone!
[16:25] <Esokrates> janisozaur, i am using it on a really slow flash device and my impression wiht lzo compression is that it is defintely better responding than with ext4
[16:25] <alien2050> Opiate: it will put it in your home dir whatever you do... one solution would be to temporarily change your home dir to your 30 gb drive and let it download, then switch it back, didn't try though
[16:26] <zykotick9> invisime: ahhh, pulse CAN (but isn't always!) be a pain.  i don't want to make any suggestions, as it _could_ lead to tears...  good luck.  i quasi-hate sound on gnu/linux (when it's not working anyways)
[16:26] <Delux> bekks - used sfdisk to copy partition - thanks for the help
[16:26] <Esokrates> janisozaur, this does not necessarily mean that there are more MB/s, but I can do more heavy io tasks simultaneously
[16:26] <Opiate> Alright, thanks for the help, I'll try that
[16:26] <janisozaur> Esokrates, are you sure that wasn't just a delayed write? cp doesn't force fsync on files it uses, you can issue that manually with 'sync' command
[16:27] <Esokrates> janisozaur, after cp was finished?
[16:27] <janisozaur> Esokrates, yes. you can also google for 'latencytop'. this sounds like a normal behaviour to me
[16:28] <Esokrates> janisozaur, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560
[16:28] <bunjee> anybody help with this command?    ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[16:29] <xauth> bunjee: well, what about it?
[16:29] <bekks> bunjee: Whats wrong with it?
[16:29] <bunjee> get a window asking me for admin password
[16:29] <Esokrates> janisozaur, could not reproduce it under btrfs :-), and it really used 99.9% of available io every two seconds although all files were completely copied
[16:29]  * xauth scratches his head.
[16:29] <janisozaur> Esokrates, jbd seems to kworker, right?
[16:30] <bunjee> do not know what administrative password is
[16:30] <Esokrates> janisozaur, i do not get the question :-(
[16:30] <bekks> bunjee: There IS NO administrative password.
[16:30] <janisozaur> Esokrates, maybe i haven't noticed that because of having my own kernel?
[16:30] <bekks> !root > bunjee
[16:30] <xauth> bunjee: first time I hear of ls producing a window..
[16:30] <bekks> bunjee: ls never produces a window.
[16:31] <Esokrates> janisozaur, i do not know, i am no expert
[16:31] <janisozaur> Esokrates, kworker - user space process, a kernel helper, that performs work as requested by kernel, but doesn't need system context (kernel space) for that
[16:32] <Esokrates> janisozaur, i know what kworker is, but i do not know what you want to know?
[16:33] <janisozaur> Esokrates, s/to kworker/to be kworker/
[16:34] <demonio> hi all, is it possible set language in thunderbird?
[16:35] <groundnuty> hey, anyone knows at what layer/which soft is resposible for hot-corners funcion in gnome3?
[16:35] <janisozaur> Esokrates, i don't really want to know much, just asking, i might give btrfs a try though, as i gave a pendrive that i could use for that
[16:37] <janisozaur> Esokrates, i have another question, though. i plan on buying a new laptop with ssd, but i am a bit worried about their endurance. i'd like to conduct some tests, do you know if it is possible to extract some metrics of my current hdd usage? i have ext4 partitions right now
[16:41] <expert_> hello
[16:42] <Esokrates> anyone using raring and qtcreator ?
[16:43] <zykotick9> Esokrates: if you are unfamiliar with it, see "/msg ubottu anyone"
[16:43] <ClientAlive> Does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade change the version of Ubuntu I'm running? In other words, I run 12.04 and want to keep it that way. Will running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade instaall 12.10?
[16:44] <expert_> is there any alternative of wine?
[16:44] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | ClientAlive No it doesn't.  it upgrades EVERYTHING (like the GUI does)
[16:44] <k1l> ClientAlive: no
[16:44] <ClientAlive> thank you
[16:44] <k1l> !raring | Esokrates
[16:45] <demonio> is it possible to change language in thunderbird?
[16:45] <zykotick9> demonio: obviously it is possible.  but don't ask me how, i don't use it.
[16:45] <demonio> zykotick9 and what do you use?
[16:46] <k1l> demonio: install the language pack you need
[16:46] <zykotick9> demonio: ;) mutt
[16:47] <demonio> zykotick9 i tried to install but i didn't able to configure it lol, k1l thank's for help i'll make it ;)
[16:47] <expert_> is there any alternative of wine?
[16:47] <expert_> is there any alternative of wine?
[16:47] <expert_> is there any alternative of wine?
[16:47] <expert_> is there any alternative of wine?
[16:47] <FloodBot1> expert_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <Larsi> because spamming is going to get you an answer
[16:48] <mhdsherafat> hello everyone
[16:48] <Larsi> lol @ losing patience after 5 seconds
[16:48] <expert_> is there any alternative of wine?
[16:48] <expert_> .
[16:48] <expert_> .
[16:48] <expert_> .
[16:48] <FloodBot1> expert_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <expert_> hey guys ....
[16:49] <Larsi> http://alternativeto.net/software/wine/
[16:50] <expert_> thanks and which is the best bluetooth software?
[16:50] <Guest90099> hi all
[16:50] <Guest90099> any one no if we can install any wifi pen stuff on penguy os
[16:51] <Akuw> my iptables script is  --->   http://www.pastebin.ca/2314756
[16:51] <mhdsherafat> I'm learning linux , I want to get at a level of professions that can get linux in my hand in fails and customize it by managing services and programs? what must I Study?
[16:51] <Akuw> but when INPUT is DROP i can't connect to internet
[16:52] <expert_> thanks and which is the best bluetooth software?
[16:52] <Akuw> althougth i have     ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere             state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
[16:52] <zykotick9> Guest90099: only ubuntu is supported in #ubuntu.  does penguy have an irc channel?  ask there if it does.
[16:52] <expert_> thanks and which is the best bluetooth software?
[16:52] <expert_> thanks and which is the best bluetooth software?
[16:52] <expert_> thanks and which is the best bluetooth software?
[16:52] <FloodBot1> expert_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <k1l> !patience | expert_
[16:54] <expert_> thanks and which is the best bluetooth software?
[16:54] <ThinkT510> expert_: what exactly do you mean bluetooth software?
[16:54] <ThinkT510> expert_: i like blueman for detecting devices
[16:54] <agu10^> What domain registrar would you recommend?
[16:54] <k1l> and what would make a best software the best software? its like: what is the best car :/
[16:55] <k1l> !ot | agu10^
[16:55] <expert_> the bluetooth driver which is used to perform all sorts of bluetooth operations.
[16:56] <agu10^> sorry
[16:56] <g16> Hello, are there any plans to include pastebinit by default? I think that that would make life easier for providing technical support (no need to explain pastebin to newbies).
[16:57] <agu10^> yeah
[16:57] <ikonia> g16: not at the moment
[17:02] <Tex_Nick> g16 : it would probably have to be explained anyway ;)
[17:05] <g16> Tex_Nick: compare "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit -- oh, a URL, I'll take it back to IRC" vs "read ubottu's message, read Ubuntu's help page -- cat /etc/apt/sources.list -- now copy, open a browser, paste, take the URL back"
[17:06] <g16> I think it would be simpler from the point fo view of a newbie.
[17:06] <g16> And self-explanatory somehow.
[17:06] <zykotick9> g16: pastebinit is hardly "required" to use ubuntu.  thus it's bloat to add it to everyone's systems.
[17:07] <D_D> moin zusammen
[17:07] <D_D> hat der eine oder andere schon mal den Wlan Treiber auf dem Mac mit Ubuntu zum laufen gebracht
[17:07] <llutz> !de
[17:07] <compdoc> english?
[17:08] <D_D> oh sorry
[17:08] <D_D> did anyone know how to install the wlan driver on a macbook with ubuntu
[17:10] <BigC85> D_D what model of Macbook?
[17:10] <D_D> hmm good question...
[17:10] <D_D> where can i look which model it is
[17:10] <D_D> ?
[17:11] <BigC85> while to start year an is it an air a pro ect
[17:11] <D_D> It is a Intel Core2Duo 2.40GHz
[17:11] <D_D> it is an macbook 13"
[17:12] <D_D> not a pro or a air
[17:12] <BigC85> what ye
[17:12] <BigC85> year
[17:13] <satellit_e> D-D I have not found a driver for the wireless on my MacBook Pro i7 either.  Wired works though
[17:13] <GeekSquid> D_D: is it white?
[17:13] <D_D> no
[17:13] <satellit_e> yes
[17:13] <ThinkT510> satellit_e: lspci
[17:13] <D_D> looks like the new model..
[17:14] <D_D> wired works without a problem
[17:14] <satellit_e> no sorry silver
[17:14] <satellit_e> about a year old
[17:14] <D_D> about 3 - 4 year old
[17:15] <satellit_e> try virtual box works like a charm with ext USB HD
[17:15] <BigC85> D_D enter this in terminal udo dmidecode -s system-product-name what's the result?
[17:15] <D_D> satellit_e did you talk to me?
[17:16] <satellit_e> yes
[17:16] <D_D> MacBook5,1
[17:16] <packetfrog> AGH
[17:17] <BigC85> and What version of ubunt r u running?
[17:17] <packetfrog> I went from default ubuntustudio install, to installing fluxbox and removing xfce    now I just went to remove cairo on synaptic and all of a sudden its removing ALL of my software    what the heck?
[17:18] <BigC85> D_D what version of ubuntu r u running?
[17:19] <zykotick9> packetfrog: welcome to the world of dependencies and metapackages...
[17:19] <g16> packetfrog: just remove the unwanted applications. Cairo is a library, i.e. something that applications use internally, don't remove it unless you have specifically a problem with it.
[17:19] <D_D> 12.10
[17:20] <packetfrog> I do have a problem with it, it hides all my windows even when i tell it not to.
[17:20] <packetfrog> Now I dont have anything to run in a window! :/
[17:20] <D_D> BigC85 12.10
[17:21] <zykotick9> packetfrog: are you confusing cairo-dock with libcairo?
[17:21] <packetfrog> Must be. ;/
[17:21] <g16> Are you sure it's cairo? Maybe it's compiz?
[17:21] <BigC85> got it looking in to it
[17:21] <g16> aaah the dock -.-
[17:22] <packetfrog> When synaptic is done raping me   how do I fix this? ;/
[17:22] <BigC85> D_D go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers do u see anything listed?
[17:23] <packetfrog> It just removed bumblebee  that took a while to setup :(  fml
[17:23] <packetfrog> two steps forward  fifty back.
[17:24] <DoctorDoom> If I delete another system that I have in dual boot and insert a live cd, can I reinstall my ubuntu 12.04?
[17:24] <zykotick9> DoctorDoom: can you install from a livecd - yes.
[17:25] <Erski> hi
[17:25] <Erski> need help :/
[17:25] <Erski> with steam :P
[17:25] <DoctorDoom> zykotick9: reinstall??
[17:25] <zykotick9> DoctorDoom: reinstall = install.  what is the question?
[17:25] <Erski> truing to install steam says no i386
[17:26] <DoctorDoom> Keep all files and programs. I do not want lose everything.
[17:26] <zykotick9> DoctorDoom: then probably not.
[17:26] <Poa91> ciao
[17:26] <Poa91> !list
[17:26] <BigC85> Erski u need 84 bit most likely
[17:27] <wiggmpk> Erski: what does "sudo dpkg --print-architecture" tell you
[17:27] <BigC85> 64bit steam
[17:27] <D_D> BigC85
[17:27] <BigC85> yes D_D
[17:27] <D_D> where shell i go?
[17:27] <DoctorDoom> Exist any way to RE-INSTALL the system and keep everything without lose anything?
[17:27] <D_D> sorry.. but it is my first ubuntu use
[17:27] <Erski> yes 64 bity
[17:27] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: fyi "dpkg --print-architecture" shouldn't need sudo.
[17:28] <wiggmpk> zykotich9: force of habit =P
[17:28] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: bad habbit ;)  you might want to see "/msg ubottu tab" as well
[17:28] <wiggmpk> Erski: are you installing Steam64?
[17:29] <mithran> ghai
[17:29] <mithran> hai I am using ubuntu 12.04
[17:29] <BigC85> D_D  it's no problem.  go to the Dash and type drivers additional driver should come up let me know if you see additional drivers
[17:29] <mithran> i cant hear sound
[17:29] <mithran> canybody help me
[17:30] <DoctorDoom> zykotick9: Do you know if is possible I erase all lib files and reinstall from original status?
[17:30] <Erski> yes i am trying to install it but it says something
[17:31] <DoctorDoom> !lib
[17:31] <wiggmpk> Erski: try "dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[17:31] <Erski> i think that the problem is in i386
[17:31] <zykotick9> DoctorDoom: i don't think so.  fyi, reinstalling is usually useless on gnu/linux.  either a) fix your problem or b) fresh install.
[17:31] <BigC85> Erski It appears you downloaded the i386 version of steam instead of 64bit
[17:31] <D_D> BigC85: my ubuntu is german and it doesn´t show me driver additional
[17:31] <zykotick9> DoctorDoom: by "reinstalling" i mean uninstalling/reinstalling packages
[17:31] <Erski> dpkg: error: unable to create new file '/var/lib/dpkg/arch-new': Permission denied
[17:32] <ikonia> don't try to install the wrong arch
[17:32] <wiggmpk> Erski: try "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[17:32] <ikonia> don't add 386 to a 64bit machine
[17:32] <wiggmpk> Erski: sorry need sudo to actually change something
[17:32] <ikonia> use the arch for your machine
[17:32] <ikonia> download the 64bit package
[17:32] <wiggmpk> zykotick9: why cant I tab to complete your name?
[17:32] <DoctorDoom> zykotick9: Fresh install.. I will do it! Uninstall all system and install again. Thank you.
[17:32] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: ahh, you should be able too?
[17:33] <Erski> now it does nothing
[17:33] <wiggmpk> zykotick9 was that what you tab comment was about or auto-complete tab in the terminal?
[17:33] <wiggmpk> Erski: now install Steam
[17:33] <wiggmpk> ikonia: Steam64 depends on Steam:i386
[17:33] <ikonia> wiggmpk: the 64bit package depends on the 32bit package...?
[17:33] <ikonia> really ?
[17:33] <wiggmpk> ikonia: yes, it does
[17:33] <Erski> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:33] <Erski> steam64: Depends: steam (= 1.0.0.27ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[17:33] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: tab in irc ;)  you used zykotich9 the first time (typo included) so i knew you where using tab
[17:34] <wiggmpk> Erski: are you installing from the software center?
[17:34] <jrib> ikonia: yeah, you need i386 multiarch to install steam on amd64 afaik
[17:34] <BigC85> D_D  unfourtunitly I only speak english  try opening a terminal and typing: jockey-text --list u should see some option in the terminal window let me know what you see.
[17:34] <ikonia> jrib: yes, I can see the need for multiach, but not the steam 32bit package
[17:34] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: s/where/where not/
[17:34] <wiggmpk> zykotick9 yeah when I typ zyk and hit tab does nothing.. I try to tab after each letter and still doesnt pick you up, your like a ghost
[17:34] <D_D> BigC85 my chip is a broadcom bcm4322
[17:35] <DoctorDoom> My leather is so soft...
[17:35] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: what client are you using?
[17:35] <wiggmpk> zykotick9 empathy garbage. works for everyone else I try in the room
[17:35] <Erski> no im not
[17:36] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: i have no idea... empathy pufff ;)
[17:36] <Erski> just tryed
[17:36] <Erski> but
[17:36] <jrib> ikonia: either way works I guess.  The software-center will install steam64 and install steam:i386 as a dependency from steam's private ppa.  But if you don't want to do that, using valve's public repository or just the deb valve provides on their site should be ok
[17:36] <Erski> now it says
[17:36] <FloodBot1> Erski: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <g16> !clone | DoctorDoom
[17:36] <BigC85> Erski here the steam deb package download and install it through software center http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
[17:36] <wiggmpk> zykotick9 a lot of spam with Empathy in IRC
[17:36] <Erski> with package installer Error: dependency is not satisfiable : libc6(>=2.15
[17:36] <DoctorDoom> g16: Very thank you!
[17:37] <wiggmpk> Erski: you need to install libc6
[17:37] <Erski> how ?
[17:37] <Erski> terminal
[17:37] <Erski> ?
[17:37] <BigC85> Ok D_D  just a sec working to help you
[17:37] <wiggmpk> Erski: yup, "sudo apt-get install libc6"
[17:38] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: empathy isn't an irc client, it's an IM client that does IRC.  i'd suggest you look into a "real" irc client for a better irc experience.
[17:38] <BigC85> Erski hold ctrl, alt and press t that should open the terminal
[17:39] <Erski> it says that i have the newest
[17:39] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: if someone's libc6 is broken, i'd think there install is pretty broken altogether...
[17:39] <wiggmpk> zykotick9: thanks, but im fine with this for now.. trying to keep my system light.. and if Empathy can handle it for now.. ill put up with the spam till they add join/part hidding ability
[17:40] <Erski> i think there is a problem with the version 2.15
[17:40] <Ronalds_M> can I run Serious Sam on intel hd 3000
[17:40] <Ronalds_M> ?
[17:40] <zykotick9> wiggmpk: you and i have every different definitions of "light" ;)
[17:41] <Ronalds_M> wan't to maybe but some game
[17:41] <mithran> Please help me i can, here sound in my ubuntu 12.04
[17:41] <zykotick9> Ronalds_M: do you mean the gnu/linux native client or through wine?
[17:41] <wiggmpk> zykotick9 most people do, thanks for the suggestion though
[17:41] <Ronalds_M> native
[17:41] <DoctorDoom> g16: My problem is based on a freaky package of AMD: libGL, is installed but when I run the process, it cause an error!
[17:41] <wiggmpk> Erski: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:41] <Erski> 2.10
[17:42] <zykotick9> Ronalds_M: and what's happening now?  last time i tried, i think it lacked sound...
[17:42] <Burritoh> 12.10 probably
[17:42] <ayashi|roadtrip> i hate sundays, someone entertain me 443-852-0074 (brittany)
[17:42] <Ronalds_M> I am big fan of steam, bought cs source last week
[17:42] <wiggmpk> Erski: im gonna assume thats 12.10
[17:42] <Erski> ye
[17:42] <ayashi|roadtrip> best text message or voicemail wins
[17:42] <mithran> help me please
[17:42] <Erski> 12*
[17:42] <Burritoh> ayashi|roadtrip: off topic much?
[17:42] <Ronalds_M> I have every detail, best gaming ever
[17:42] <zykotick9> Ronalds_M: oh, is serious sam in steam?  i have no idea then.
[17:42] <wiggmpk> Erski: try update your system.. "sudo apt-get update" and then try an install steam "sudo apt-get install steam64"
[17:42] <ayashi|roadtrip> yea
[17:42] <ayashi|roadtrip> but i HATE sundays
[17:43] <ayashi|roadtrip> but sorry :(
[17:43] <Ronalds_M> they have sale right now
[17:43] <Ronalds_M> for linux
[17:43] <DoctorDoom> I have an excellent hardware, maybe Ubuntu, unfortunately, not is the right system for it.
[17:43] <Ronalds_M> offprices...
[17:43] <BigC85> D_D type jockey-text --enable=firmware:b43 in terminal
[17:43] <mithran> please help me somebody
[17:43] <kody> hey guys I kind of broke dpkg and I was wondering if I could get some help?
[17:44] <Ronalds_M> DoctorDoom, what is wrong with ubuntu on your system?
[17:44] <Burritoh> Ronalds_M: (and anyone else with Steam problems who can't find a solution here) you could check out #ubuntu-steam and #steamlug for more specific discussion around steam
[17:44] <prometheus_pk> can i increase the size of root (/) without reinstalling linux?
[17:44] <erupter> does anyone know a decent graphical profiler?
[17:44] <Burritoh> mithran: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[17:44] <Ronalds_M> tnx Burritoh
[17:44] <BigC85> D_D let me know whaat u see
[17:44] <Burritoh> prometheus_pk: should be able to... trouble tends to start when you change the start of a partition
[17:45] <Burritoh> but changing the end is fin
[17:45] <Burritoh> fine*
[17:45] <Ziber> mysqldump -u <user> -p <database> > <file> will dump a database to a file, right?
[17:45] <kody> dpkg --configure -a doesn't work for me
[17:45] <Styler2go> how can i see which task has how much cpu load?
[17:45] <Boohbah> Styler2go: top
[17:45] <zykotick9> Styler2go: htop shows both cpu usage and load
[17:46] <Styler2go> can i sort it
[17:46] <Styler2go> ?
[17:46] <Boohbah> htop is a little nicer than top
[17:46] <Boohbah> Styler2go: yes
[17:46] <Burritoh> Styler2go: if you like a gui, gnome-system-monitor - and yeah, you can sort it in top and htop
[17:46] <Erski> i think its going to work
[17:46] <ciccio> aweeeeeeeee
[17:46] <ciccio> kittemurt
[17:46] <Styler2go> what can i do against ddos attacks?
[17:47] <BigC85> Sweet Ersky enjoy
[17:47] <GeekSquid> Anybody have any idea of how to track incoming and outgoing rental stock and generate barcode labels for each, tracking numbers, part numbers, locations (customers) etc?
[17:47] <Erski> yeah it worked
[17:47] <BigC85> Erski sorry typo
[17:47] <Burritoh> Styler2go: that really depends... are you doing personal computing, or an enterprise operation, or something in between?
[17:47] <wiggmpk> Styler2go: firewall that drops all ping requests
[17:47] <Erski> thanks every one <3!
[17:47] <BigC85> np Erski have fun!
[17:47] <Burritoh> Styler2go: if it's a large operation where you need to keep a website up, there are services for that
[17:47] <wiggmpk> Erski: cool, glad I could help
[17:47] <Styler2go> i am using a vserbver on ubuntu 10.04 and it seems that it gettign attacked
[17:48] <Styler2go> this is a very important server because there is an android app running on it (serverside things)
[17:48] <AcidRain2013> Styler2go: what makes you think its being attacked?
[17:48] <DoctorDoom> Ronalds_M: Driver does not works, instability and a lot of more things.. I try and try.. I am tired now!
[17:48] <demonio> hey guys if i want put thunderbird among program startup, can i copy thunderbird in /etc/init.d
[17:48] <demonio> ?
[17:49] <Styler2go> very high server load and almost not answering
[17:49] <AcidRain2013> whats the website?
[17:49] <wiggmpk> Styler2go: fist thing you should do is take the server offline and correct the problem
[17:49] <wiggmpk> isn't there an ubuntu server channel? anyone?
[17:49] <deadmund> demonio: You probably want it to start when you log in, not when the computer boots.  Correct?
[17:49] <Burritoh> demonio: If I were you I'd rather put it in the Startup Programs for Ubuntu - I think if you search "session" in the unity menu it should pop up
[17:49] <Styler2go> i cant take the server offline now... its the "best time" for the app right now
[17:50] <Burritoh> wiggmpk: there is
[17:50] <demonio> deadmund yeah
[17:50] <ThinkT510> !server | wiggmpk
[17:50] <deadmund> demonio: are you running cinnamon?
[17:50] <wiggmpk> Styler2go: so then compromise security for availabilty.. maybe you should be running Windows 2k8
[17:50] <demonio> i don't know it
[17:50] <wiggmpk> thanks ThinkT510
[17:50] <Ronalds_M> DoctorDoom, gpu, sound? instability? are you on 12.10 bleeding edge?
[17:50] <Styler2go> how can i stop ping requests via firewall
[17:51] <deadmund> demonio: open the menu, search "startup applications"
[17:51] <wiggmpk> Styler2go: #ubuntu-server channel might be able to assist you better
[17:51] <_nedR_> hello i want to manually partition my hdd for my system which should all fit on 1 primary partition
[17:51] <demonio> deadmund i want learn to make it by terminal if it's possible
[17:51] <_nedR_> how do i do this
[17:52] <_nedR_> the primary partition size is 89GB
[17:52] <zykotick9> demonio: fyi, trying to launch GUI apps from init.d WILL fail!!!
[17:52] <deadmund> demonio: ummm, I'm not sure how to make an app that starts when you log in in the terminal.
[17:52] <wiggmpk> Styler2go: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17548/how-can-i-block-ping-requests-with-iptables should be a good read for you
[17:53] <Ronalds_M> DoctorDoom, I can recommend 12.04 xubuntu for less resources.. runs great on older PC's...
[17:53] <deadmund> demonio: Usually, if you want app to start automatically when you log in you're running a GUI, and the methods are GUI dependent tools.  It is rare that a CLI only system has auto-start applications (this would be very annoying on the terminal)
[17:53] <albivian> hi all
[17:54] <albivian> I have an ibm t40 with ubuntu 12 installed
[17:54] <DoctorDoom> Ronalds_M: My system: NB HP AMD APU 3800 Radeon 6620G. 1TB 10GB - The bad thing is since I installed Ubuntu I reinstall ten times and always broke.. It is very, very sad!!
[17:54] <albivian> it has a built in wireless, but it cannot be detected
[17:54] <albivian> tried rfkill, nothing
[17:54] <DoctorDoom> Ronalds_M: My system: My PC is new.. Very new!
[17:54] <albivian> help!
[17:54] <demonio> deadmund ok i'll make into gui but how i told is for sturtup to boot computer?
[17:54] <Ronalds_M> then install ubuntu 12.04 stable release
[17:54] <deadmund> demonio: what?
[17:55] <DoctorDoom> Maybe I will try the last time the Kubuntu..
[17:55] <DoctorDoom> I like KDE.. I like open source!
[17:55] <Ronalds_M> you probably have 12.10 with bleeding edge libreoffice, scumbag 3.5 kernel or even more 3.7
[17:55] <patyh> Hi guys
[17:55] <Ronalds_M> which are not for everyday use
[17:55] <patyh> Anyone alive down here?
[17:55] <aguitel> what about amsn or pidgin when messenger become obsolete from microsoft in april?
[17:56]  * AcidRain2013 dead
[17:56] <DoctorDoom> I am with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.. Is not plausible broke so much!
[17:56] <patyh> I've got a question, wondering if anyone can help..
[17:56] <Ronalds_M> what is broken
[17:56] <BigC85> D_D that command should have fixed your issue.  Did it?
[17:56] <Ronalds_M> ?
[17:56] <BlueEagle> thiefy: Happy tab-complete day.
[17:56] <wiggmpk> patyh: just ask the question
[17:57] <demonio> deadmund when i put a program in /etc/init.d/ it start to run when computer boot?
[17:57] <albivian> anyone?
[17:57] <patyh> This is gonna be long..
[17:57] <ikonia> albivian: anyone what ?
[17:57] <ThinkT510> DoctorDoom: your machine sounds very new
[17:57] <albivian> t40 with ubuntu12.04 LTS, built-in wifi present in bios, but not detected
[17:57] <albivian> tried rfkill
[17:57] <Palleball> Hello! I'
[17:57] <albivian> nothing
[17:57] <albivian> not present in lspci
[17:58] <albivian> fn+f5 doesn't work either
[17:58] <Ronalds_M> what is t40
[17:58] <Ronalds_M> ?
[17:58] <BigC85> I'm running 13.04 it's not that bad would'nt let my grandma run it but it's pretty stable
[17:58] <albivian> ibm t40
[17:58] <albivian> laptop
[17:58] <DoctorDoom> ThinkT510, And it is. I buy recently.. 2 months ago!
[17:58] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: thinkpad
[17:58] <patyh> I am currently living in an apartment, the apartment provides free wifi which we have to log in via a online portal.. Now, like many of you out here, I have several devices including a NAS. I was wondering how I could log in to the wifi via ubuntu and connecting a router to it and setting up an internal network where I could connect to my internal stuff like my nas as well as the internet
[17:58] <packetfrog> How do I fix it so apt-get does not want to uninstall my apps like wireshark it is saying they are no longer required.
[17:58] <llutz> albivian: are you sure you have wifi built-in? most of the t40 came without...
[17:58] <zykotick9> demonio: you can't launch "programs" from /etc/init.d/ - services yes, but not programs.
[17:59] <albivian> llutz: yes it does
[17:59] <ThinkT510> DoctorDoom: that explains the issues, did it come with win8?
[17:59] <Palleball> I've created two partitions on my old Mac. One on which I put the Ubuntu installation image and one to which I want to install once I've booted the installation partition. My problem is that my Mac can't find any bootable drive. When I put the installation image on my hard drive without making two partitions first, the booting of the installation program works fine… But then I can't install it, of course, because I can't install
[17:59] <albivian> llutz: i used ndiswrapper which worked for a built
[17:59] <albivian> llutz: but not it just doesn't show up
[17:59] <deadmund> demonio: not exactly, you put it in /etc/init.d/ then you ln is from /etc/rc2.d/
[17:59] <albivian> even with ndiswrapper
[17:59] <AcidRain2013> patyh: u want to connect a router to a router?
[17:59] <llutz> albivian: does lsusb list something?
[17:59] <BlueEagle> patyh: I have had the greatest success using Shorewall for such routing. It does take some getting used to, but works nice once you get your head around the methology.
[18:00] <albivian> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:00] <albivian> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:00] <albivian> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:00] <albivian> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:00] <mikej> I installed Ubuntu on my PC earlier, I thought it was on a 50gb partition on my harddrive, but I got an error saying that I'm out of memory already. Do you know how I can fix this?
[18:00] <FloodBot1> albivian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <zykotick9> deadmund: ahhh, that's not going to be helpful for demonio.  you can't run "programs" from init.d - where is that program going to display?  who is it going to be run as (answer root).
[18:00] <DoctorDoom> ThinkT510, Windows 7 64bit
[18:00] <wiggmpk> BlueEagle: shorwall is a GUI based firewall, he's running a server and im assuming its headless
[18:00] <patyh> AcidRain2013: No. I want to use my Ubuntu netbook to log into the wifi, and share that connection via a router
[18:01] <deadmund> zykotick9: yes I know :), I just answered his question
[18:01] <BlueEagle> patyh: The biggest challenge here is keeping the box logged in to the wifi network. If it's anything like the student home you need to log in every hour, which presented a challenge.
[18:01] <BlueEagle> wiggmpk: Shorewall is not a gui based firewall.
[18:01] <wiggmpk> BlueEagle: it isnt?
[18:01] <patyh> BlueEagle: Mine isn't. It keeps you log in as long as your device is connected and not logged out
[18:01] <BlueEagle> wiggmpk: The only way to get a GUI to shorewall is through webmin, and that has long been discontinued.
[18:01] <Ronalds_M> bad router?
[18:01] <llutz> albivian: please paste the output of "lspci" to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:01] <BlueEagle> wiggmpk: No it is not. Who told you it was?
[18:02] <AcidRain2013> patyh: why not login to the router with a router and connect to your own router?
[18:02] <wiggmpk> BlueEagle: lol my mistake, its been a long time since I ran into Shorewall and your right it was via Webmin
[18:02] <Yoshi2889> Hello, occasionally when booting up my system, Xorg fails to start. I've read this is a possible problem with the nvidia drivers, but I am using an Intel HD Graphics 3000 graphics adapter
[18:02] <albivian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672582/
[18:02] <DoctorDoom> funny thing: I ask ubottu for lib and "he" answer in privacy: Sorry, I don't know anything about lib - hahaha
[18:02] <BlueEagle> patyh: Then you would do well with shorewall. What you do need though is two network cards on the box connected to the wifi.
[18:02] <AcidRain2013> routers have options to login settings on a connection
[18:02] <Ronalds_M> Yoshi, have you changed settings for xorg
[18:02] <albivian> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672582/
[18:02] <Ronalds_M> find default xorg.conf and change it
[18:02] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: I have not changed the Xorg config at all
[18:02] <llutz> albivian: and lspci please (pastebin)
[18:02] <patyh> AcidRain2013: It's kinda like this, the apartment provides free wifi that we are given a username and password to log in to
[18:03] <Ronalds_M> maybe removed kde, xfce?
[18:03] <mikej> How can I fix a black screen instead of the login screen?
[18:03] <Palleball> Anyone?
[18:03] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: Neither have I touched the DE
[18:03] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | mikej start here.
[18:03] <Ronalds_M> well
[18:03] <Ronalds_M> I have HD3000
[18:03] <leonixyz> Hello people. I have like to instal Ubuntu on an old machine, but cannot write CDs/DVDs and cannot boot through USB. The machine is running Puppy Linux, could I start the installation even from another distro?
[18:03] <BlueEagle> mikej: Install the correct graphics card drivers?
[18:03] <AcidRain2013> patyh: then in your own routers options, goto advanced tab and input that username and password and have your router connect to the wifi
[18:03] <patyh> BlueEagle: Would it be okay if I connect to the network via wifi and then connect my router to my buntu box via router?
[18:03] <Ronalds_M> and it doesn't have any problems ever with xorg
[18:03] <albivian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672593/
[18:03] <Ronalds_M> try sna driver for intel
[18:04] <albivian> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672593/
[18:04] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: I think it has to do with Steam, it installs jockey-common and nvidia-common
[18:04] <patyh> AcidRain2013, it would be so much easier if my crap router supports that advanced shit
[18:04] <Ronalds_M> you have 2 gpu
[18:04] <Ronalds_M> right?
[18:04] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: No, I don't, just the integrated graphics of my i5 2450M
[18:04] <demonio> deadmound i made a shit and now gui is crashed to start
[18:04] <Yoshi2889> Or there must be something hidden in my system... :P
[18:05] <AcidRain2013> patyh: lol. i bout a netgear router at bestbuy for 60$ its not too advanced ;)
[18:05] <Ronalds_M> Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4
[18:05] <Ronalds_M> and running everything smoothly
[18:05] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: Intel Core i5 2450M @ 2.50 GHz (2 cores with hyper-threading)
[18:05] <llutz> albivian: if lspci doesn't show your card, there is no chance to get it running. even ndiswrapper needs some detected hardware.... can you access the wifi-pci-card and check if it sits ok in the socket (electrical problem)?
[18:05] <patyh> AcidRain2013: I've got 2 TP link router with none supporting that..
[18:05] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: When I used OpenSUSE it had no problems at all with starting Xorg
[18:06] <albivian> llutz: if its built in, where should it be?
[18:06] <Ronalds_M> 12.04 before 12.10
[18:06] <BlueEagle> patyh: If I have understood the issue correctly you want to connect your private network to the provided wifi via an ubuntu server. To do that you set up the ubuntu server to connect to the wifi and then set that NIC as the gateway. You then define the other NIC to be the local network (in /etc/shorewall/interfaces). You then set up routing policies (allow everything out, but nothing in) and you're good to go.
[18:06] <llutz> albivian: check bottomside of the laptop for a cover
[18:06] <_sisu_> hi,
[18:06] <GeekSquid> patyh: you will want to get a dd-wrt router, it will do everything you need
[18:06] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: Hmm? Should I try running 12.04 instead?
[18:06] <chirag> hi all
[18:07] <BlueEagle> patyh: In addition to Shorewall you would also most likely want a light weight DHCP server on the same box so you don't have to mess around with static IPs.
[18:07] <Ronalds_M> also of course, 12.10 is unstable
[18:07] <_sisu_> im reading "it will be installed in $prefix/bin"
[18:07] <_sisu_> im reading "it will be installed in $prefix/bin". Does that mean something in special ?
[18:07] <albivian> llutz: left-bottom side, there's a small square-like cover with what looks like a wifi symbol
[18:07] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: So if I understand correctly it's better to run 12.04?
[18:07] <albivian> llutz: doesn't come off
[18:07] <wiggmpk> GeekSquid: depends on the router he uses, more recent routers have some wifi stability issues with DD-WRT
[18:07] <BlueEagle> patyh: While you could connect a router to the second NIC and then connect your devices to this, you can easily get away with just a switch (unless you require wifi on your private net)
[18:07] <_sisu_> id like to know what file i have to modify to execute something from the console just writing its name, like when writing "python", thank you,
[18:08] <patyh> The awesome part is dd-wrt doesn't support my router
[18:08] <Ronalds_M> yes, for example openoffice is stable in 12.04, has all the options, I miss in newer version
[18:08] <patyh> Yes, I do require wifie
[18:08] <patyh> I shall take a look at shorewall
[18:08] <Ronalds_M> 3.2 driver is works better out of the box than 3.5
[18:08] <Ronalds_M> or 3.7
[18:08] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: Okay, I'll try installing 12.04 instead then, thanks! :)
[18:08] <DoctorDoom> Bye Bye ubuntu.. How I sayd, I will try Kubuntu 12.10.. If do not works I will try Windows 8..
[18:09] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: its been libreoffice for a while now
[18:09] <BlueEagle> patyh: Then you connect the router to the 2nd nic and configure the router to use the IP of your ubuntu box as the gateway.
[18:09] <_sisu_> any hint ? thank you.
[18:09] <llutz> albivian: according http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/39t6192_01.pdf its not easy to access...
[18:09] <HelloWorld> Hello all
[18:09] <Ronalds_M> maybe, but still, don't trust 12.10
[18:09] <k1l> _sisu_: $PATH is the hint
[18:09] <HelloWorld> I need help with an issue with Steam installer
[18:09] <BlueEagle> patyh: After you have installed shorewall you will find nice examples in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/examples/
[18:10] <Ronalds_M> any upgrade to is a bad path, if your pc works fine on 12.04
[18:10] <patyh> Thanks man.. Now let me head to my ubuntu box and get shorewall up
[18:10] <BlueEagle> patyh: You would want the two-interfaces setup.
[18:10] <patyh> One being my wifi, another being my lan?
[18:10] <roothorick> okay, what gives. Apport NEVER opens a browser window so I never get to report anything. Why?
[18:10] <wiggmpk> HelloWorld: state the issue your having
[18:10] <Ronalds_M> it reports it self
[18:11] <_sisu_> kll thanks
[18:11] <_sisu_> where is PATH ?
[18:11] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: I haven't upgraded btw, I did a fresh install of 12.04
[18:11] <_sisu_> i guess you mean the PATH variable
[18:11] <Yoshi2889> *12.10
[18:11] <_sisu_> well im gonna google, thanks
[18:11] <Ronalds_M> and you have problems out of the box?
[18:11] <Yoshi2889> Yes
[18:11] <BlueEagle> !ask |HelloWorld
[18:12] <Ronalds_M> the upgrade
[18:12] <_sisu_> !ask ubuntu
[18:12] <Ronalds_M> *then
[18:12] <_sisu_> !ask |ubuntu
[18:12] <Yoshi2889> Point is, I don't have any problems in Fedora or OpenSUSE or something
[18:12] <HelloWorld> Help me plz
[18:12] <Ronalds_M> point is, it's you
[18:12] <HelloWorld> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[18:12] <HelloWorld> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[18:12] <HelloWorld> Details:
[18:12] <HelloWorld> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:12] <FloodBot1> HelloWorld: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <HelloWorld> steam64: Depends: steam (= 1.0.0.27ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[18:12] <HelloWorld> ty
[18:13] <Yoshi2889> HelloWorld: try sudo apt-get install -r
[18:13] <Yoshi2889> *sudo apt-get install -f
[18:13] <Yoshi2889> nor -r
[18:13] <wiggmpk> HelloWorld: are you using a 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[18:13] <HelloWorld> yes
[18:13] <BlueEagle> HelloWorld: Did you install through Ubuntu software center or did you download the installer?
[18:13] <Burritoh> (many of these Steam people are just trying to get Valve's promotional item XD)
[18:13] <demonio> i had put thunderbird in startup but now the gui crash so how can i solve it'
[18:13] <demonio> ?
[18:13] <wiggmpk> HelloWorld: "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update" then try and install steam64 again
[18:14] <HelloWorld> wubi on windows 7 home premium 64 bit
[18:14] <BlueEagle> Burritoh: There's a promo item?
[18:14] <Yoshi2889> Ronalds_M: Lol, but if it fails to work straight out of the box I don't think it's me to be honest
[18:14] <HelloWorld> yes for the penguin. but I like this ubuntu
[18:14] <BlueEagle> !prefix | HelloWorld
[18:14] <Burritoh> BlueEagle: yes, in TF2... if one runs TF2 on Steam for Linux, you get a penguin that sits on your butt and is pretty much worthless in gameplay :V
[18:14] <_sisu_> i have my ubuntu installed with wubi, is it possible to increase the "virtual" partition it makes ? i need more space.
[18:15] <_sisu_> best regards.
[18:16] <Ronalds_M> well I installed ubuntu out of the box on amd athlon
[18:16] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: I googled 'wubi increase partition' and happened upon several helpful links including   [SOLVED] Increasing size of wubi partition? on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777797
[18:16] <Ronalds_M> and it worked, except unity
[18:17] <Burritoh> hellopat: did wiggmpk's suggestion work?
[18:17] <roothorick> twice now, X apparently crashed on me while I was away from the computer, and when I came back, GNOME had switched to Chinese. WTF!?
[18:17] <Burritoh> HelloWorld: did wiggmpk 's suggestion work?
[18:17] <Burritoh> (sorry hellopat)
[18:17] <_sisu_> ok Ronalds_M . I should have googled that before, I apologize for "asking too fast"
[18:17] <Ronalds_M> so Yoshi, try linux mint, try newer version of ubuntu, if somethings wrong with ubuntu...
[18:18] <Kentrel> Hey guys. I have Sleep options available, but if I use it and then come back I have to reboot to get it back again
[18:18] <Kentrel> How do I fix this?
[18:19] <BlueEagle> Kentrel: That does depend quite a bit on why you have to reboot "to get it back again". Did you try pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 to see if the text console is still up? If so it may be an issue with you graphics card/driver.
[18:19] <wiggmpk> HelloWorld: did that work?
[18:20] <Kentrel> Blue, I dual boot with Windows. I don't need to reboot. It's just that I only get my option back after I reboot
[18:20] <_sisu_> BlueEagle,  how can i back to the graphic environment after pression CTRL + ALt+ F1
[18:20] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: CTRL+ALT+F7 iirc
[18:21] <_sisu_> iirc ?
[18:21] <_sisu_> ok ok
[18:21] <_sisu_> got it
[18:21] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: or just ATL+F7. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iirc
[18:21] <zykotick9> BlueEagle: ya, ctrl only required when in xorg ;)
[18:23] <_sisu_> im with lubuntu
[18:23] <_sisu_> i guess the keyb combination is the same anyways
[18:23] <_sisu_> i like lubuntu
[18:24] <_sisu_> LXDE seems to be lightweight and at the same time nice, no bullshit like amazon etc... in the desktop
[18:24] <zykotick9> _sisu_: fyi, in virtual terminals, you can also use alt+(LorR)arrows to switch
[18:24] <_sisu_> zykotick9, didnt know thanks for the advice buddy
[18:24] <kalen_> the alt key is magic
[18:24] <wiggmpk> Burritoh: hey I have to get going.. I didnt see HelloWorld leave the channel, but that should of fixed his dependencies issues.
[18:25] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: Yeah. That is a generic kernel feature. In the old days when I compiled my own kernels I always limited the amount of terminals to 3 to save memory.. That was when I needed to save memory. :)
[18:25] <HelloWorld> I have steam problem i386 wrong architecture. so I went to software update it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1672639/
[18:26] <zykotick9> BlueEagle: lol, my VTs go to 11
[18:26] <HelloWorld> anyone resolved the issue ?
[18:26] <wiggmpk> HelloWorld: did you try what I told you?
[18:27] <HelloWorld> trying it now... lemme seee
[18:27]  * zykotick9 notices a trend, of #ubuntu becoming steam support ;)
[18:27] <wiggmpk> HelloWorld: "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" in a terminal, then run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal, then run "sudo apt-get install steam64"
[18:27] <_sisu_> BlueEagle, and even today saving memory is worth... i dont like to waste resources either :P
[18:27] <HelloWorld> till march 1 plz get me the penguin. I rly like ubuntu, but steam not working right now XD
[18:27] <kalen_> Speaking of Steam, I have a question!
[18:28] <kalen_> actually I already figured it out, can't install games on an NTFS drive
[18:28] <yeats> !steam
[18:28] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: We're moving !ot, but I do believe that indicates you don't use Gnome nor KDE. :)
[18:29] <BlueEagle> kalen_: Why can you not install games on an NTFS partition? If you mount it with executable by default you should be OK, should you not?
[18:30] <BlueEagle> kalen_: Although since the FS driver is in userspace you most likely will take a performance hit on NTFS.
[18:30] <kalen_> BlueEagle: Can you? I found an Ubuntu thread that said it should be ext4 to work
[18:30] <kalen_> I was getting prepared to shrink it. It's my secondary hard drive so it has some space to be two partitions
[18:30] <aguitel> how install libreoffice 4.0 in 12.04 ?
[18:31] <ThinkT510> aguitel: why do you need it?
[18:31] <roothorick> aguitel: if you care that much, why not upgrade to 12.10 while you're at it
[18:31] <BlueEagle> kalen_: I have not tried, so I do not know for certain, but my theory is that Steam in and of itself is mostly a launcher that launces other executables. If you have games installed on an NTFS partition then Steam needs to be able to execute binaries on said partition.
[18:31] <aguitel> ThinkT510, only to try
[18:32] <ThinkT510> aguitel: then best stick to whats in the repo
[18:32] <BlueEagle> aguitel: If it is not in the back port then you may need to install it from source.
[18:32] <aguitel> ThinkT510, what repo
[18:32] <ThinkT510> !repo | aguitel
[18:32] <kalen_> BlueEagle: Yeah that's basically what it is. It downloads and installs games for you. Like you said though, there might be a performance hit. Not that many of the games for Linux require a powerhouse PC...
[18:32] <Ronalds_M> libre office after the stable release seems to not work fine on ubuntu, not recommend..
[18:33] <_sisu_> BlueEagle,  im more a embedding device engineer
[18:33] <_sisu_> so for me saving memory is important :)
[18:33] <_sisu_> memory and resources in general
[18:34] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: were you having problems in 12.10?
[18:34] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: Yeah, I don't bed my devices, and if I did I sure as h*ll wouldn't want to remember it. </jk>
[18:35] <roothorick> I had Steam on my laptop for a while. I ultimately gave up on it when I found my laptop was too slow for pretty much my entire library :/
[18:35] <kalen_> roothorick: an old laptop I assume?
[18:35] <kalen_> roothorick: although some of those indie games have pretty low requirements
[18:35] <roothorick> kalen_: not too old. Turion 64 X2 2.0Ghz / GeForce 6150
[18:36] <BlueEagle> kalen_: Generic steam launcher or run through wine?
[18:36] <roothorick> kalen_: when Aquaria ran so slow it took half a minute just to quit, I just gave up
[18:36] <roothorick> kalen_: newer nV drivers have NOT been nice to older GPUs, and nouveau is still a bit... half-baked, although ironically gnome-shell seems to like nouveau better
[18:36] <kalen_> roothorick: huh, that's surprising. Aquaria didn't look too heavy duty
[18:36] <BlueEagle> roothorick: Above question was for you. Generic steam or through wine?
[18:36] <HelloWorld> ty all so much for resolving the issue
[18:37] <roothorick> BlueEagle: native Steam, via the deb
[18:37] <kalen_> roothorick: oh yeah, maybe that's it... I have a 560m so the nvidia drivers are great :)
[18:37] <patyh> shorewall isn't working for me..
[18:37] <kalen_> BlueEagle: i'm using the Linux steam client downloaded from their site
[18:37] <Ronalds_M> ThinkT510, probably cause I used xodgers ppa
[18:37] <roothorick> kalen_: I'm running nouveau now, had to manually inject a 3.8 kernel, and while most games crash, gnome-shell and Flash seem to actually be FASTER
[18:37] <Ronalds_M> but openoffice with green splash is bad
[18:38] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: ppas do tend to make systems unstable
[18:38] <patyh> anyone got any alternative for my problem??
[18:38] <roothorick> ThinkT510: *CERTAIN* PPAs. x-updates is generally safe. xorg-edgers has felled many a mortal man.
[18:38] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: libreoffice's splash screen is green by default on 12.10
[18:39] <BlueEagle> patyh: Nope. I do Shorewall and I do it in an (almost) identical fashion, so it is possible to make it work. Does require some reading though.
[18:39] <roothorick> I just noticed I don't have libreoffice installed :/ ubuntu-gnome is really minimal apparently
[18:40] <roothorick> no firefox, no libreoffice, just base system and gnome
[18:40] <_sisu_> this is not a direct question: what is the accuracy in clock time that linux can give me ? i have heard it is about 10 ms
[18:40] <kalen_> roothorick: uuuuuuuuuuuunnity
[18:40] <ClientAlive> a tutorial I'm following instructs the followning.  Is it safe??
[18:40] <ClientAlive> Now we can start the installation of the Oracle 10g archive.
[18:40] <ClientAlive> Allow others users to connect to your X session, by entering in a bash shell:
[18:40] <ikonia> roothorick: try ubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <kalen_> roothorick: why aren't you united?!
[18:40] <ClientAlive> 	xhost +
[18:40] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: It depends on the architecture you run upon.
[18:40] <roothorick> _sisu_: depends on your hardware
[18:40] <escott> _sisu_, there are a number of different clocks on your system
[18:40] <Shipoopi> sup fools
[18:40] <kalen_> FOO
[18:41] <ikonia> Shipoopi: try a polite greating
[18:41] <ikonia> greeting
[18:41] <kalen_> singular greeting?
[18:41] <roothorick> kalen_: silence, heathen! GNOME 3 is the One True Desktop Environment!
[18:41] <_sisu_> i know but i have heard that
[18:41] <kalen_> and salutation
[18:41] <patyh> Imma try the webmin route
[18:41] <BlueEagle> ikonia: He was asking if anyone had any "soup for owls". Common typo
[18:41] <xauth> xhost should be taken out and shot.
[18:41] <_sisu_> provided i have a powerfull laptop, not a lot or services running, what would be the expected accuracy ?
[18:41] <ThinkT510> patyh: webmin is not supported here
[18:41] <kalen_> roothorick: haha, I guess, if you're going by amount of hatred. Unity almost matches Gnome 3!
[18:41]  * xauth presents xauth.
[18:42] <ikonia> xauth: don't need a commentary
[18:42] <patyh> which is why I'm not talking about that here
[18:42] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: It depends on the architecture of the laptop, the source used to obtain clock and so on.
[18:42] <roothorick> kalen_: in my true, honest opinion, GNOME 3 is everything Unity wants to be but falls short of
[18:43] <_sisu_> BlueEagle, appart from that, the linux kernel itselfs introduce a "random noise"
[18:43] <escott> _sisu_, http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time
[18:43] <_sisu_> i would like to quantify it
[18:43] <xauth> ClientAlive: meaning: xhost may be fine if you're the only one in a protected network. Otherwise, don't use it.
[18:43] <kalen_> roothorick: I've been away from LInux for a while, I'll have to give Gnome3 a try again. I haven't taken a look since it was first released. I hear it's had some well-received updates since
[18:43] <GeekSquid> _sisu_: network latency will cause a little more than 10ms just to check the time, not sure of your application, you can buy an external clock source that syncs to 10khz time
[18:44] <roothorick> _sisu_: hardware is so large a factor I wouldn't even consider software jitter
[18:44] <ClientAlive> xauth: ok. Do you think it would cause a problem with installation if I skip that? Or might it cause a problem when attempting to use oracle?
[18:44] <roothorick> _sisu_: and if you're running on multiple machines over a network, hah! good luck.
[18:44] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: As I understand it the kernel itself counts nano seconds.
[18:45] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: Oh, are you talking about synch to network time servers?
[18:46] <xauth> If the installation instructions tell you to use it, you need to do *something*, although xhost + is certainly overkill.
[18:46] <xauth> ClientAlive: I mean, they're not saying it for no reason.
[18:47] <_sisu_> no, BlueEagle , im talking about the accuracy of an event
[18:47]  * xauth boggles they can get X authorization so wrong after so many years.
[18:47] <_sisu_> let's say to generate a signal of 100 khz and timestamp each positive rise
[18:47] <ClientAlive> xauth: that's what I figured but when I run "xhost +" I get an error (something about No protocol specified AND xhost: unable to open display ":0").
[18:47] <xauth> ClientAlive: try xhost +localhost if you're on a single user system.
[18:48] <xauth> ClientAlive: belay that.
[18:48] <ClientAlive> xauth: ok
[18:48] <xauth> You're not running inside an X session, are you?
[18:48] <roothorick> _sisu_: generally unless the hardware does some form of timestamping, you're going to have pretty severe inaccuracy
[18:48] <escott> _sisu_, if you need to worry about this kind of accuracy you should make sure that the interrupt is assigned to a single cpu, move everything else off that cpu and run your application in a single thread on that cpu
[18:49] <roothorick> _sisu_: especially with such an insane frequency
[18:49] <ClientAlive> xauth: idk. (not familair with the ins and outs). I am the only user and my home netwrok is a trusted network, but it is a lappy and I may connect to other networks to get on the internet at times
[18:49] <escott> _sisu_, doing simple things like counting is surprisingly hard on multicore systems
[18:49] <Yoshi2889> Okay it looks like I was running on llvmpipe the whole time.
[18:49] <_sisu_> but im trying to mean is that, provided i need the most possible accuracy, i dont know if maybe i should try another kernels, such as a real time system (vxworks) or linux real time.
[18:49] <Yoshi2889> Weird though since the last time X successfully started it was running on mesa
[18:50] <_sisu_> roothorick, do you think 100 khz is insane ? come on ...
[18:50] <xauth> ClientAlive: okay. In that environment xhost looks safe. In any case, any permissions you deal out are reset when you end your X session.
[18:50] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: Are you time stamping on input from a form of oscilloscope? How do you store said timestamps?
[18:50] <escott> _sisu_, there are many different clocks on the system. also need to look at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3523442/difference-between-clock-realtime-and-clock-monotonic
[18:50] <_sisu_> something like that
[18:50] <_sisu_> timestamping yeah
[18:51] <n3hxs> Running the "First Startup Wizard" for Wine, It asks for the Wine libs. I have done some searching with Google and looked for a "lib" folder related to Wine.
[18:51]  * xauth ponders.
[18:52] <GeekSquid> _sisu_: If you can give us some idea of the application we might be able to point you in a better direction
[18:52] <Appel> Hi there, a linux newbie here. I wanted to install Ubuntu on my Acer Iconia W510, but all i can get is it to start with Windows boot manager (UEFI) crap... any idees or someone that has done it before?
[18:52] <_sisu_> the application is to try to get ns accuracy
[18:52] <xauth> ClientAlive: If the instructions tell you to use xhost, it means they expect graphic programs to be making their entry soon.
[18:52] <_sisu_> which i guess is hard
[18:52] <ClientAlive> xauth: ok. Well I think this guy is skipping a step or something and it may be what's messing me up. Would you be willing to take a peek?  http://www.makina-corpus.org/blog/howto-install-oracle-11g-ubuntu-linux-1204-precise-pangolin-64bits  <-  the Heading "Installing Oracle" (I think there is some information missing from before that heading to after that heading).
[18:52] <ThinkT510> !uefi | Appel
[18:52] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: Well, if you have really slow storage (tape) then you'll err out on that sooner or later even with intelligent buffering that don't attempt to run in real time. If you can fit stuff in RAM then you should be able to keep up with time stamps on a 100khz signal. You don't want to do real time conversion from the clock though.
[18:52]  * xauth checks the link.
[18:53] <Appel> Yea i know, tried it alot. It seems to be verry special with a Intel Atom Z760 engine...
[18:53] <ikonia> xauth: please stop with the commantary
[18:53] <Appel> cause its a 32bit win 8,
[18:53] <_sisu_> im trying to do what is called "matched filtering"
[18:54] <ClientAlive> xauth: before that heading he has me log in as oracle then he asks you to use the xhost command then he says log in as oracle again "su - oracle". So am I supposed to issue the xhost command as my user or as oracle?
[18:54] <emilio> hello
[18:54] <skyler> So, does anyone know how I can make a bootable usb on 6.06? I'm trying to upgrade to 12.04
[18:54] <ClientAlive> he dosn't say
[18:54] <_sisu_> i.e., receiving a signal and comparing it with a copy stored
[18:54] <_sisu_> the delay obtained accuracy is critical
[18:54] <kalen_> skyler: does unetbootin work?
[18:54] <Yoshi2889> skyler: Try unetbootin
[18:54] <Yoshi2889> Ugh hijack
[18:54] <kalen_> winner!
[18:54] <ThinkT510> skyler: dd the 12.04 iso to a usb stick
[18:54] <skyler> I don't know how to install unetbootin on 6.06
[18:54] <Yoshi2889> skyler: If it does not work, try either dd or "Startup Disk Creator"
[18:55] <Yoshi2889> skyler: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[18:55] <_sisu_> so using any "non real time kernel" is a problem
[18:55] <nedR> hello i want to install ubuntu 12.10 along with my existing windows 8 partition (uefi mode).. but in the setup says that "no other operating system is detected".. I am afraid if i install my windows will be unbootable
[18:55] <skyler> not in the repos for 6.06
[18:55] <Yoshi2889> or grab it manually
[18:55] <_sisu_> but i have to deal with it if i want to use ubuntu
[18:55] <skyler> how would I do it manually?
[18:55] <BlueEagle> _sisu_: How long samples are you matching against and how many?
[18:55] <Yoshi2889> skyler: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unetbootin
[18:55] <skyler> or how can I add a ppa on 6.06
[18:55] <_sisu_> the other choice is to go for a fpga and do all the coding in vhdl
[18:55] <roothorick> _sisu_: are you receiving the signal to be compared via audio, i.e. ALSA? Then you should be able to rely on the timecodes reported by ALSA, as long as you don't care too much about when the result is actually delivered
[18:55] <ThinkT510> Yoshi2889: don't use that site here please
[18:56] <ThinkT510> skyler: just dd it
[18:56] <_sisu_> no roothorick
[18:56] <Appel> ThinkT510: I know im a carrot in the butt, but do you think you gave give me a quick guide?
[18:56] <Yoshi2889> skyler: It's int he default repos on 12.10
[18:56] <_sisu_> that's the problem
[18:56] <xauth> Ah.
[18:56] <roothorick> _sisu_: how are you receiving your data?
[18:56] <_sisu_> im working with signal with very high bandwidth
[18:56] <_sisu_> "UWB signals"
[18:56] <roothorick> _sisu_: I mean through what API?
[18:56] <Yoshi2889> skyler: Download it, mark it as executable (properties > Permissions) and run it from a terminal
[18:56] <_sisu_> im using an external hardware for that
[18:56] <ThinkT510> Appel: i've never used a uefi system and don't plan on getting one any time soon
[18:56] <skyler> Will that mark the drive as bootable? I'm having problems booting from usb on my thinkpad t40, which is what I am trying to install 12.04 on
[18:56] <BlueEagle> ThinkT510: Is it the site in general you object to or the spesific usage of the site?
[18:56] <Yoshi2889> skyler: Yes it should
[18:56] <Appel> alright thank you
[18:57] <roothorick> _sisu_: are you using an existing driver for said hardware or writing your own?
[18:57] <_sisu_> roothorick,  you can use gnuradio for that
[18:57] <ThinkT510> BlueEagle: usage, its impolite
[18:57] <Yoshi2889> skyler: If it does not, install gparted and add the "boot" flag
[18:57] <Yoshi2889> to the USB drive
[18:57] <xauth> ClientAlive: the ./runinstaller command starts a graphic program that will want to connect to your X display.
[18:57] <_sisu_> there is an existing driver yes
[18:57] <skyler> okay, thank you Yoshi2889 and ThinkT510
[18:57] <xauth> This command must be run from the oracle account.
[18:57] <BlueEagle> ThinkT510: Even if a verbatim copy/paste of a question asked obtains desired solutions?
[18:58] <ClientAlive> xauth: ok. Do I run "xhost + local" as my user name or as oracle?
[18:58] <Appel> Gosh dident think a uefi system would be this hard to boot another os on :-<
[18:58] <ThinkT510> !google | BlueEagle
[18:58] <xauth> ClientAlive: But instead of doing "su - oracle" you can do "ssh -X oracle" and you shouldn't be needing xhost at all.
[18:58] <Yoshi2889> ThinkT510: Funny that the first result on google for "unetbootin" or "unetbootin download" returns the answer.
[18:58] <ioria> Appel: no sacrifice no glory :P
[18:58] <xauth> Eh.
[18:58] <roothorick> _sisu_: if you can't rely on the API to give you accurate time data, you're rather screwed. So just go with the values gnuradio is giving you and report a bug if you later find them to be wrong.
[18:58] <ClientAlive> xauth: perfect. Thank you
[18:58] <ThinkT510> skyler: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb (make sure sdb is the actual usb stick)
[18:58] <xauth> ssh -X oracle@localhost
[18:58] <Appel> guys, Use a 64bit disk of Ubuntu (32bit installer does not detect EFI) Does this mean i cant install a Linux to a uefi Intel atom z2760 drive? (win 8 32bit atm)
[18:59] <skyler> the usb stick is /dev/sda
[18:59] <xauth> Or @ wherever your oracle installation is happening.
[18:59] <Yoshi2889> ThinkT510: dd is slow if you don't use the bs parameter, it's faster if it's something like bs=32768 or something like it
[18:59] <skyler> will it work with a usb hard drive? not flash memory, but a 2.5" hdd in an enclosure
[18:59] <zykotick9> skyler: cat is a better suggestion then dd...
[18:59] <skyler> cat?
[19:00] <Yoshi2889> skyler: I would use a USB stick myself
[19:00] <roothorick> Yoshi2889: the "fastest" value for bs= depends on... so much crap. 1M is a good general rule.
[19:00] <skyler> I don't have a usb stick
[19:00] <skyler> just this hdd
[19:00] <Yoshi2889> skyler: Well, be aware that dd overwrites the entire disk
[19:00] <zykotick9> skyler: oh, if you're not creating a USB, then ignore me.
[19:00] <skyler> That's very fine
[19:00] <skyler> I am creating a bootable usb
[19:00] <roothorick> skyler: you can boot from a USB HDD, sure
[19:00] <GeekSquid> Appel: you should be able to go into your bios and make it so ubuntu can see a bios
[19:00] <Yoshi2889> Thinking of it I have to fix the microsd card dd crapped up for me
[19:01] <Appel> All i can change is Secure boot, and boot order... And that dosent seem to help. (trying with a usb)
[19:01] <BlueEagle> ThinkT510: If the question does require that you use other key words than what is posed in the question, then I will agree with you. But for the question of "how do I increase the wubi virtual disk?", when copied verbatim into Google does give the desired solution. Then I do not find it impolite to refer the user to a list of google hits with a suggestion of how to obtain said hits.
[19:01] <_sisu_> roothorick,  the think is that i can generate inside gnuradio
[19:01] <_sisu_> a signal
[19:01] <xauth> ClientAlive: congratulations for your suspicion of xhost +. well spotted.
[19:01] <_sisu_> it will rely on linux
[19:01] <Ascavasaion> Is there a way top check memory for errors in Ubuntu without using liveCD or Grub menu option?  I need to run it in Ubuntu while it is running.
[19:01] <ioria> Appel: i think you should convert your hd
[19:01] <_sisu_> so that is what i would like to know, the timing accuracy it can provide
[19:01] <ClientAlive> xauth: ha ha
[19:02] <Appel> ioria tell me more ? :-)
[19:02] <Yoshi2889> Ugh, excuse me while I reboot
[19:02] <roothorick> Ascavasaion: unfortunately no. It's the nature of a full memory test that it cannot run inside an OS.
[19:02] <ClientAlive> xauth: with linux... simple mistakes can quickly become disasters  :s  (start out laughing and end up crying <- I don't want that).
[19:02] <kalen_> BlueEagle: I agree with you on that one...
[19:03] <ioria> Appel: wll, i don'r use uefi, but i know that the problem is grub and MBR (master boot record)
[19:03] <xauth> ClientAlive: linux doesn't prevent you from shooting yourself in the foot.
[19:03] <Appel> yea thats the prob, it goes directly to Windows boot managaer
[19:03] <Ascavasaion> roothorick: Darn, I cannot get to it... On boot up computer freezes at Memory Testing, then about 15-25 minutes later it boots.  No Grub menu appears.
[19:03] <escott> _sisu_, the more i think about this the more difficult this sounds. a 100kHz signal leaves you 20-30 cycles to do your work
[19:03] <ioria> Appel: maybe you can use gparted to convert the partition
[19:03] <GeekSquid> Appel: boot with live disk, run gparted ... set the ubuntu as the boot partition
[19:04] <_sisu_> escott,  i said an example,
[19:04] <_sisu_> just think about a step function
[19:04] <roothorick> Ascavasaion: 15-25 MINUTES!? I'd say you have a hardware problem...
[19:04] <_sisu_> i just need to know the timing the step happens :)
[19:04] <Appel> Live disk aint able to boot, it dosent find it when attached. only win 8 bootable usb is findable
[19:04] <ClientAlive> xauth: that is for sure.   Ok, so, the instruction to launch the intaller is "./runInstaller" and you say do "ssh -X oracle" <- do those commands need to be combined somehow?
[19:04] <roothorick> Appel: did you turn off secure boot? Pretty sure secure boot needs to be OFF when installing OSes
[19:04] <Ascavasaion> roothorick: I know... but I have removed all HDDs, network cards, swapped graphics cards... and same thing.  So wanted to check RAM.
[19:04] <escott> _sisu_, not anywhere close to 100kHz accuracy
[19:04] <ioria> Appel: in live mode, neither ?
[19:04] <Appel> Yea its off
[19:04] <escott> _sisu_, 10kHz sounds more reasonable
[19:04] <_sisu_> 100 kHz is 0.1 MHz by the way
[19:05] <Appel> with virtual box it works yea
[19:05] <escott> _sisu_, nevermind
[19:05] <_sisu_> CPU goes too way faster
[19:05] <escott> _sisu_, haven't had enough cofee
[19:05] <GeekSquid> Appel: you may be able to do it in windows disk management
[19:05] <xauth> ClientAlive: from a local xterm, run "ssh -X oracle@oraclehost", then in the shell you get there, run ./runInstaller.
[19:05] <Appel> And what type of partition should i make?
[19:05] <roothorick> Ascavasaion: protip: if you're having issues before the OS boots, just swap the RAM with a known good set and test it later
[19:05] <_sisu_> e.g. 1 GHz cpu is 1000 times faster
[19:06] <skyler> unetbootin tells me i have to mount my usb hdd. How do I do this?
[19:06] <ClientAlive> xauth: perfect. thx
[19:06] <mikej> I'm having trouble setting up WIFI for my school network. I'm on Ubuntu 12.10.
[19:06] <GeekSquid> Appel: you arn't trying to :"make": a partition, you are setting the boot flag on the partition
[19:06] <ioria> Appel: in few words, you should erare and reformatting your hard disk :/
[19:06] <GeekSquid> Appel: what brand of computer?
[19:06] <Ascavasaion> roothorick: I have removed RAM, and put in one by one, and into each of the bays.  Same problem.  Cannot boot with no RAM because it gives one long beep and freezes.
[19:06] <Appel> Oh, okay :-) so in other words i could keep win 8 on my primary and make the secondary as a linux one?
[19:06] <ioria> Appel: erase the disk
[19:06] <Appel> Well, its a iconia w510, win 8 tablet
[19:06] <Appel> thats probably the problematic :p
[19:07] <ClientAlive> xauth: Brother, there is no "shell you get there" it just hangs
[19:07] <roothorick> Appel: can you get into the BIOS?
[19:07] <Appel> yea
[19:07] <ioria> Appel: you can reintall win after the reformatting
[19:07] <roothorick> Appel: there should be a "secure boot" option somewhere. Turn it OFF / Disabled
[19:07] <roothorick> Appel: be aware that may make win8 refuse to boot for now
[19:07] <whoever>  /join #java
[19:08] <Appel> Its off already, but as told all i get to is windows boot manager, not any other. not even with Bcdboot
[19:08] <ClientAlive> xauth: when I do, do a "su - oracle" and log in. My command line changes to:  oracle@myUserName
[19:08] <xauth> ClientAlive: oh dear.
[19:08] <ClientAlive> ha ha
[19:08] <xauth> ClientAlive: that should be "oracle@myHostName", right?
[19:08] <ClientAlive> xauth: cool
[19:08] <escott> ClientAlive, su - will/should not work on ubuntu systems
[19:09] <roothorick> Appel: is there an option about boot order? Maybe a boot menu?
[19:09] <Appel> yea there is, Usb is at top :-)
[19:09] <Appel> its something to do with the Uefi i guess..
[19:09] <ClientAlive> xauth: I alwasy did like being able to log in as root. Did a "passwd su" a long time ago  :p
[19:09] <roothorick> Appel: ohhh, yeah.... UEFI USB sticks have to be different I think
[19:09] <roothorick> Appel: unfortunately all my kit is way too old for UEFI so I can't be much help :/
[19:09] <ikonia> escott: su will work, if it's for a user, just not for root
[19:09] <GeekSquid> Appel: have you looked at this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/91484/how-to-boot-ubuntu-from-efi-uefi
[19:09] <xauth> escott: beg to differ. "su - <username>" works fine.
[19:10] <Appel> :-( and the w510 is kinda new so cant find any posts around the web either
[19:10] <ikonia> although I've just seen ClientAlive's further info
[19:10] <escott> ikonia, xauth didn't notice the "oracle" so conditioned to telling fedora people not to use su -
[19:10] <Appel> Yea i did GeekSquid , but ive tried a linux live usb stick to boot, all i havent tried is to make a new partition
[19:10] <Yoshi2889> Okay so I just had the "Checking battery state..." problem again
[19:10] <Appel> but i did try on my secondary drive wich is empty
[19:10] <Yoshi2889> Tried "startx" and it said it didn't find any screens..?
[19:11] <ikonia> escott: I'm not surprising it's so common here
[19:11] <Yoshi2889> I'm back in Ubuntu now after about 10 restarts but...
[19:11] <ioria> Appel: you can look for a gparted live disk and reformat the hd as MSDOS
[19:11] <roothorick> Appel: apparently ONLY Ubuntu-Secure-Remix and 12.04.2 are supported on UEFI for now
[19:11] <roothorick> Appel: if you can't put your BIOS into "legacy" mode, you'll have to pick from those two
[19:11] <Appel> yea, and those is 64bit aint it? :p
[19:11] <jrib> ikonia: what's wrong with setting a password for a user named "su" ;)
[19:11] <xauth> ClientAlive: you can try the xhost route. Run xhost from a local xterm
[19:11] <roothorick> Appel: yes.
[19:11] <Appel> another problem, ive got a x86 intel atom z2760 with a 32bit system
[19:11] <roothorick> Appel: newer Atoms have EM64T, that shouldn't be an issue
[19:12] <ClientAlive> xauth: thx. I think we'll get er  :)
[19:12] <mikej> Can someone help me set up my WIFI on Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:12] <skyler> I have a pentium m, will I be able to run 12.04 on it?
[19:12] <GeekSquid> Appel: consider putting SuperGrubCD on a usb stick and using it to bring up the efi for ubuntu
[19:12] <Yoshi2889> skyler: You should
[19:12] <kalen_> is anyone going to Scale in LA next weekend?
[19:12] <escott> skyler, there are lot of "pentium m"s out there. which pentium m is it?
[19:12] <Appel> tried that too GeekSquid , the system dosent find any usb if it aint windows 8 boot files on it :/
[19:12] <skyler> I have no idea. The one in the thinkpad t40
[19:13] <Yoshi2889> Ugh, if nobody knows an answer to this problem then I'll be best to switch to Fedora or OpenSUSE or something...
[19:13] <GeekSquid> kalen_: I'd like to, but I don't think I'll make it
[19:13] <roothorick> Appel: put 12.04.2 64bit on a USB stick and see if it picks up. If you get an error about no 64bit instructions, at least you know.
[19:13] <escott> skyler, your bigger issue will be the graphics card which is probably underpowered. im sure it is supported but you may find unity to be a bit slow
[19:14] <Appel> yea i will roothorick :-)
[19:14] <skyler> I'm going to be using gnome and awesome, so I don't really think graphics are much of an issue. Unity is terrible and I don't use it on any of my computers
[19:14] <escott> skyler, gnome also uses a compositor beginning with gnome3
[19:15] <skyler> there was something about using >3.5 gb of ram in 32 bit OSes that was going to cause a problem with my processor
[19:15] <skyler> escott, gnome2 with awesome as the WM is what I'm going to use
[19:15] <ThinkT510> !gnome2 | skyler
[19:15] <AcidRain2013> WM?
[19:15] <Ronalds_M> I haven't booted in windows since 12.04 release....
[19:16] <GeekSquid> skyler: not a processor problem. you just won't be able to use more than 3+ gigs of ram in 32bit
[19:16] <AcidRain2013> sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[19:16] <Ronalds_M> and it's unity that's good
[19:16] <skyler> No, there is a processor problem I just can't remember what it is
[19:16] <kalen_> Ronalds_M: That's a good accomplishment :)
[19:16] <skyler> Yeah! My processor doesn't support PAE
[19:16] <ThinkT510> skyler: 32bit processors can't address over 3.something GB of ram
[19:16] <DJones> skyler: I think you're talking about the smp kernel needed for > 4gb ram on 32 bit systems
[19:16] <DJones> pae, that was it
[19:16] <kalen_> Ronalds_M: If I can get Photoshop running in a VM well enough, I'm going to try the same
[19:17] <AcidRain2013> GeekSquid: ? i run gnome2, 16gig ram.
[19:17] <skyler> Yeah, it's PAE
[19:17] <escott> skyler, your cpu doesn't have PAE?
[19:17] <skyler> escott, no
[19:17] <Ronalds_M> you earn money with it?
[19:17] <skyler> Not on this computer any ways haha
[19:17] <Ronalds_M> kalen_?
[19:17] <escott> skyler, then you need a special kernel because PAE is assumed in the kernel that ships with the OS
[19:17] <escott> !pae
[19:17] <kalen_> It' s not my main tool, but working as web dev, I get psd's all the time from our designer, so... yeah, it's pretty important
[19:17] <escott> skyler, although i think that was a 12.10 change so you might be ok with 12.04
[19:17] <skyler> escott, starting with what version? I can work on 10.04 for a while then
[19:18] <AcidRain2013> escott: seriously?
[19:18] <DJones> !pae | skyler If you're upgrading to 12.10, its enabled by default
[19:18] <AcidRain2013> y our telling me i have 16gig ram, and my cpu only uses 3?
[19:18] <Ronalds_M> I find gimp enough for my student needs, not like there is need for latex, c, python that are there in ubuntu
[19:18] <ClientAlive> xauth: When I do "ssh -X oracle@myUserName" (and enter password) I get a new shell but I also get this -> http://ideone.com/Fsd54h <- It doesn't look right to me. Am I mistaken and all is ok?
[19:18] <Appel> GeekSquid:  when i put super grub disk on a Fat32 usb, my pc did not find any usb connected in Boot menu :/
[19:18] <skyler> so lubuntu 12.04 should install fine then?
[19:19] <escott> skyler, yeah its 12.10 that PAE is required by the default kernel (there are groups who compile a non-pae kernel but you have to get it from them)
[19:19] <ClientAlive> xauth: I'd rather prevent a problem before it happens than try to clean up the mess afterward
[19:20] <kalen_> Ronalds_M: Gimp is decent, but it wont read the files I receive colrrectly
[19:20] <GeekSquid> Appel: how are you putting it on the disk ... unetbootin?
[19:20] <Venks_> are there any alternatives to unity in ubuntu ? i tried cairo dock,but the alt+tab for switching between programs does not work on it.
[19:20] <Appel> yea GeekSquid
[19:20] <Ronalds_Mz> kalen_which ones?
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !docks | Venks_
[19:20] <xauth> ClientAlive: There are some strange messages, but none of them to worry about, certainly not right now.
[19:20] <xauth> ClientAlive: most problems look unrelated.
[19:21] <ClientAlive> xauth: cool. thx
[19:21] <kalen_> Ronalds_M: PSD's
[19:21] <Dice-Man> there is also gnome classic
[19:21] <Ronalds_Mz> I find sometimes problems if presentations are made with slave tools like powerpoint...
[19:21] <Ronalds_Mz> but appart from that formats are always changable
[19:21] <escott> skyler, lubuntu with 12.04 would be a good choice
[19:21] <Venks_> thanks!@
[19:22] <Venks_> why on earth unity!  *pulls my hair*
[19:23] <Ronalds_Mz> lxde is fast and yes, but it
[19:23] <ThinkT510> Venks_: there are other desktop environments: gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[19:23] <holstein> Venks_: cario is a dock though.. unity is the whole environment
[19:23] <Ronalds_Mz> less customizable and if you ave many apps, it's hard to find something
[19:23] <holstein> maybe you are just looking for a launcher? something like gnome-do or kupfer or synapse
[19:23] <AcidRain2013> unity sucks
[19:23] <kalen_> AcidRain2013: hater!
[19:24] <escott> !ot | AcidRain2013
[19:24] <Ronalds_Mz> also, no nautilus bigger, smaller icons (rescaling)
[19:24] <Venks_> so what would you guys suggest ?.. i got ubuntu with my system76 laptop yesterday
[19:24] <Appel> roothorick:  same with that ubuntu version, boot window dosent find anything other then windows :/
[19:24] <holstein> AcidRain2013: lots of volunteers works hard creating unity
[19:24] <AcidRain2013> escott: i believe i was giving full support with my opinion on unity to help others avoid the issues i did ;)
[19:24] <zykotick9> !notuniy | Venks_
[19:24] <skyler> Unity is the wrong direction for ubuntu, but oh well
[19:24] <Ronalds_Mz> unity is great for many people, if doesn't suit you, why bother
[19:24] <escott> AcidRain2013, no you were being obnoxious
[19:24] <AcidRain2013> holstein: dont get me wrong, i appreciate the work. as i do with all code. just not me
[19:24] <holstein> Venks_: i would suggest elaborating as to what you are looking for, and some suggestions can be made.. there are lots of other desktop environments
[19:24] <AcidRain2013> !define obnoxious
[19:24] <no-n> are optimus/bumblebee/nvidia gt 630m still problematic on ubuntu?
[19:25] <zykotick9> !nouniy | Venks_
[19:25] <zykotick9> !notunity | Venks_
[19:25] <escott> no-n, yes/no/maybe depends on your hardware
[19:26] <Venks_> @ holstein, i think its the interface more than anything that i am not comfortable with.. i do like the classic gnome 2 interface
[19:26] <holstein> Venks_: i would try a few live CD's.. xubuntu, lubuntu.. see what lxde and xfce, and maybe kde are like..
[19:26] <no-n> escott: what hardware? just the graphics card?
[19:26] <nick_h> Ubuntu configures rsyslog to run as syslog:adm rather than root:root . how bad is it to change that so that rsyslog runs as root:root ?
[19:26] <holstein> Venks_: xfce is arguably the most like the old gnome2
[19:27] <no-n> escott: I'm trying to decide whether to buy a laptop with an nvidia card or just hd4000
[19:27] <Venks_> this laptop came with  12.10 preinstalled
[19:27] <holstein> Venks_: try a xubuntu live CD, then consider installing xfce or xubuntu-desktop in your current install
[19:27] <holstein> Venks_: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[19:27] <escott> no-n, its not a supported hardware set, but some people must be having some success since the project exists
[19:27] <skyler> no-n, buy a thinkpad
[19:27] <no-n> skyler: why?
[19:27] <holstein> Venks_: you prestalled ubuntu has access to xubuntu, XFCE, kde, lxde.. whatever you want.. literally wahtever you want to use
[19:27] <escott> no-n, ati also has their own version of the optimus type technology that can cause problems
[19:27] <Ronalds_Mz> Unity is right direction, it's clearly far superior than gnome 2, and combines right with all types of apps
[19:28] <Appel> wich format should i make my disk to prepare for ubuntu ?
[19:28] <Ronalds_Mz> there is no problem running mate, why don't do it, if hate unity
[19:28] <skyler> no-n, great linux support, great hardware, pretty good price. Buy a used one and you will be very happu
[19:28] <jacob_> do u hack facbook
[19:28] <escott> no-n, and the associated project for amd hardware is ironhide or ironlake or iron-something
[19:28] <no-n> ah
[19:28] <Venks_> @ Ronalds_Mz i dont hate unity.... as i said I prefer classic gnome 2
[19:29] <holstein> i find xfce to be the most stable gnome2 like interface...
[19:29] <skyler> guest8680, to hack a facebook you have to make a gui in visual basic to backtrace their IP adress
[19:29] <DJones> !hacking | Guest8680 No, they have their own programmers,
[19:29] <skyler> !piracy
[19:29] <Venks_> well is there a way to move the unity bar to the bottom or top rather than on te left hand side ?
[19:29] <skyler> !o4o
[19:29] <ioria> Appel: MSDOS  i guess, but it'll erase all your data
[19:30] <emdik> I have recently upgraded to 12.10 and I cannot see my laptop from my desktop on my home network anymore. The internet works from both but somehow I can't see my laptop. How can this happen? How can I fix this situation?
[19:30] <skyler> emdik, are you running 12.10 on both computers?
[19:30] <emdik> The laptop is connect through wifi. A windows laptop can be seen but this one not.
[19:30] <emdik> yes
[19:30] <skyler> emdik, have you tried turning it off and on again
[19:31] <emdik> skyler: plenty of times
[19:31] <holstein> Venks_: i installed ubuntu.. stock.. unity is on here.. i installed and configured openbox, and i dont use unity.. you can choose to install whatever else you want on there.. and choose at boot time what you prefer
[19:31] <escott> emdik, check that samba is installed, check that the firewall is open
[19:31] <escott> !gufw | emdik
[19:31] <emdik> I just ran out of ideas
[19:31] <escott> !samba | emdik
[19:31] <holstein> Venks_: i suggest looking at live CD's since its an easy way to get a feel withouth breaking your current install
[19:31] <emdik> I don't use samba, I don't need it, I wanted to ssh only
[19:31] <emdik> but even ping fails :-/
[19:32] <Venks_> @holstein ok I will try a few distros
[19:32] <escott> emdik, would your router have isolation mode enabled?
[19:32] <holstein> Venks_: a few ubuntu variants... they are all ubuntu
[19:32] <holstein> emdik: firewalls?
[19:32] <kalen_> holstein: even linux mint?!
[19:32] <Venks_> and does anyone have gide to configure apparmour ?
[19:33] <Venks_> guide*
[19:33] <emdik> escott, holstein: I checked those already
[19:33] <emdik> I have no internal network isolation
[19:33] <emdik> but I have ufw on both computers
[19:33] <holstein> kalen_: the ones i suggested above, which were xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu.. etc.. not mint
[19:33] <escott> emdik, what is your ping command line and response?
[19:33] <emdik> even my router doesn't list my laptop as a client even though I check the management interface from the laptop
[19:33] <emdik> I didn't have this problem with 12.04
[19:33] <holstein> emdik: try connecting by ip
[19:34] <Appel> ive noticed by now that i have a 100mb partition on my Disk that is called "Efi-systempartition"
[19:34] <g16> Does Ubuntu have a screenshot pastebin, like paste.ubuntu.com? Trying to help a user on another Ubuntu official channel, where should I redirect him for uploading screenshots?
[19:34] <escott> Appel, thats where efi keeps the boot files
[19:34] <Appel> I should really keep that then :p
[19:35] <escott> Appel, yes. its the efi version of the MBR
[19:35] <emdik> holstein: I tried pinging by ip address and it works now!
[19:35] <Venks_> I installed teamviewer yesterday to take remote acess,now every time i start the guest account it starts on boot,how do i get rid of it ?
[19:35] <emdik> but I still cannot see it as a device on the router
[19:36] <escott> emdik, what do you mean "as a device" are you trying to find it by hostname
[19:36] <holstein> emdik: i find, trying with the host names, outside the dhcp range wont work on some networks.. depends on the router and the network
[19:36] <emdik> escott: there is a page that lists the connected clients to the router, and currently it only lists my computer but not this laptop
[19:36] <holstein> emdik: do your tests with the IP.. and you can consider dns
[19:37] <holstein> emdik: those are listing dhcp leases likely.. not static IP's
[19:37] <Appel> Im getting mad over here, stupid windows boot manager :-< cant get aaaaanything to boot
[19:37] <emdik> holstein: maybe I'll check it in other places
[19:37] <emdik> I happy that at least ping works now :-)
[19:38] <holstein> emdik: i would pint the machines.. i would check the firewalls.. i would test connect via ssh.. all using ip addresses, then move from there knowing what the issues are
[19:38] <ioria> Appel: are you in Legacy boot only ?
[19:38] <Appel> ioria: ive tried disabling secure boot, and tried with it aswell
[19:40] <escott> emdik, it sounds like you are using a static configuration and expecting the router to have a DNS name for that entry which it wont have
[19:40] <ioria> Appel: try with uefi and Legacy bios enabled but Legacy boot first
[19:40] <holstein> my ddwrt firmware does dns name serving.. but usually stock routers dont
[19:40] <Appel> Acutally i found it now but bios said "Sandisk cruzer blade has been blocked by the current security policy"
[19:40] <escott> Appel, if you legacy boot linux then you wont be able to boot windows 8
[19:41] <Appel> well the point is dualbootin win8 and ubuntu
[19:41] <emdik> escott: I need access without dns now, although using hostnames would be nicer; earlier I couldn't reach my laptop from my computer ("no route to host") with the ip address
[19:42] <Appel> OMG; Gpart booted for a sec, now blackscreen :|
[19:42] <holstein> emdik: my guess is that was a fat-finger, or a firewall issue
[19:42] <escott> !nomodeset | Appel
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> Appel  is this useful http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[19:43] <Appel> Okay guys lemme check that, you are awesome :-)
[19:43] <emdik> holstein: I hope the problem doesn't come back
[19:43] <Appel> well i cant add that if i dont have linux installed can i?
[19:43] <emdik> aaand now I get the error again "Destination Host Unreachable"
[19:43] <holstein> emdik: i dont think it was a problem at all.. i think it was configuration
[19:44] <holstein> emdik: if you can ping, then you are trying to connect via ssh, and you should look at the ssh config.. connect to ssh on localhost to test
[19:44] <escott> Appel, you can set nomodeset at the grub menu during once the livecd starts to boot
[19:44] <Appel> it boots says error real fast, then goes to Gnome partition , then blackscreen
[19:45] <Appel> no chance to write anything
[19:45] <emdik> holstein: now I can't even ping; I tried adding a static configuration in the router
[19:45] <holstein> Appel: try tapping shift, or holding it right after the bios
[19:45] <holstein> emdik: ? why?
[19:45] <holstein> emdik: you should not change *anything* when you are able to ping
[19:45] <PuFFs> Can you mount --bind home directory to a NTFS directory?
[19:46] <versuchsanstalt> i have a problem on a machine of a friend of mine. i don't know why it won't boot to x like it did yesterday, the only thing that's changed is that i reduced the color depth to 24 bit using the configuration options provided by the desktop. QUESTION: what's the best way to let the system autoconfigure X once again?
[19:46] <holstein> emdik: i would undo what you just did, and get the machines pinging again.. test localhost ssh on ssh server, then connect remotely
[19:46] <emdik> holstein: I changed after loosing the ability to ping, sorry for the confusion
[19:46] <nokia> l
[19:46] <escott> PuFFs, no
[19:47] <emdik> holstein: a desperate action to fix the reappearing problem
[19:47] <PuFFs> escott: Thanks
[19:47] <Appel> holstein: tapping did not work
[19:47] <escott> PuFFs, if you want to put some files on NTFS i would symlink folders like says ~/Music to a folder in the NTFS directory
[19:47] <Appel> ill try that guid MonkeyDust , how much GB should i have for linux ?
[19:47] <holstein> Appel: it might not.. i dont have, or plan to have uefi boot, so i dont have any idea what hassle it is in actuality
[19:48] <Appel> im really thankfull for trying mate
[19:48] <wjtaylor> How can I see why mdadm failed a disk?
[19:48] <Appel> Yesterday i couldent even get to boot menu, im doin progress :)
[19:48] <PuFFs> escott: If I did the symlink would it use the space on NTFS mount or still use up on my /home?
[19:48] <danktamagachi> hello, I am using ubuntu 12.10. for some reason, empathy just started to pop up real message boxes (with, OK and Cancel buttons) for each IM I receive, in addition to the toast notification. I don't remember enabling this, any idea how to turn it off?
[19:48] <holstein> emdik: i would just set all back to default.. get the machines connected and pinging something (google.com) then get the IP's and set up ssh.. *then* set static ip's if you need and go from there
[19:48] <nokia> hi, my AMD catalyst driver runs 8c cooler than the ATI open driver is this normal?
[19:49] <escott> PuFFs, if you symlink ~/Music -> /mnt/ntfs/some/path then any files placed in ~/Music are actually on /mnt/ntfs
[19:50] <emdik> holstein: I removed the static ips from the router
[19:50] <escott> wjtaylor, dmesg
[19:51] <wjtaylor> escott: what would I grep for?
[19:51] <emdik> holstein: I can now ssh from laptop (wifi) to the computer (cable) and I can ping the laptop from the computer, I will enable ssh for testing
[19:51] <escott> wjtaylor, /dev/sdX for the appropriate device
[19:51] <SolarisBoy> look for kernel errors related to your disks
[19:51] <SolarisBoy> brb - sounds all wonky
[19:52] <wjtaylor> escott: nothing...
[19:52] <Appel> But guys, what makes it possible for gparted to boot, but ubuntu cant?
[19:52] <emdik> holstein: ssh works now, too
[19:53] <mikej> Is there any way to "unfreeze" Ubuntu, like with windows hitting Ctrl + alt + delete
[19:53] <escott> !reisub | mikej
[19:53] <holstein> emdik: so, dont assume ssh is broken.. it'll be the networking that breaks ssh
[19:53] <emdik> holstein: but there is something else I want to do with the computers besides ssh, let's see if I can
[19:53] <thiefy> i have a computer on my network named named woof.   how coem when i try to do "ping woof" it doesn't work properly?
[19:53] <emdik> holstein: I thought so, maybe I didn't express myself appropriately
[19:53] <holstein> thiefy: dns.. if its static ip
[19:54] <thiefy> holstein,  it is static.
[19:54] <tekk> whats the policy on ubuntu kernel updates… i.e. is there a release cycle or justification for picking new ones up? just wondered when 3.5.6 was coming :)
[19:54] <tekk> i'm stuck on 3.2.0-37
[19:54] <dean_> Hi all I was wondering if there was a emulator for ubuntu that can play gamecube games on?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> tekk  3.2 is for 12.04
[19:55] <holstein> thiefy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto is relevant, though i usually just connect via IP, or use ddwrt firmware
[19:55] <escott> tekk, when you upgrade to the next release you will get the newer kernel
[19:55] <tekk> yes, i'm using 12.04
[19:55] <tekk> ubuntu locks kernel versions at releases ?
[19:55] <holstein> tekk: you get security upgrades
[19:55] <tekk> right ok
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> tekk  use 12.10 if you want 3.5
[19:55] <tekk> what does 12.10 use exactly ? (i need some features of 3.5.6)
[19:55] <emdik> holstein: now my other network thing works, altough I feel that I changed back everything to where I started
[19:55] <holstein> tekk: canonnical releases security upgrades to the "stable" versions at release time, basically
[19:55] <holstein> !ppa | tekk
[19:56] <holstein> you can get newer version via ppa usually.. though breakage can occur
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> tekk  the current kernel is 3.5.0-23 -- if you want something newer, you need a ppa, but that's not supported here
[19:56] <tekk> ok np
[19:56] <thiefy> holstein, where in dd-wrt do i find that to give them static names?
[19:56] <holstein> emdik: by trying to create static IP's, it seems you broke networking between the machines.. do you need static ip's?
[19:56] <tekk> if i need newer i'd rather spin my own than use a ppa (for my sanity)
[19:57] <holstein> thiefy: i dont have it running in front of me, and the firmware's can be different
[19:57] <_sisu_> can i ask
[19:57] <_sisu_> why ubuntu has 6 virtual terminals ?
[19:57] <jai> hi
[19:57] <_sisu_> ctrl + alt f1 f2...f6
[19:57] <holstein> thiefy: it alwasy "just worked" for me.. automagically
[19:57] <_sisu_> any reason ?
[19:57] <emdik> holstein: the static ip creating was one of my attempts at the solution
[19:57] <wjtaylor> escott: how do I mark a faulty spare as non-faulty?
[19:57] <thiefy> holstein, it doesn't 'just work' for mine... i'll hunt around though.
[19:58] <holstein> emdik: so, whats the issue?
[19:58] <thiefy> wjtaylor, what's a 'spare'?
[19:58] <holstein> thiefy: i would search about dns in ddwrt.. could be something you disabled for some reason
[19:58] <thiefy> i might have.... heheh
[19:59] <wjtaylor> thiefy: It's an extra drive in an array.
[19:59] <holstein> thiefy: tbh, it just always worked, and i never looked for the option
[19:59] <zykotick9> _sisu_: it's actually "linux" that has those virtual terminals, try "echo $TERM" while in a VT ;)
[19:59] <holstein> !tty | _sisu_
[19:59] <bonelifer> Using MyhthBuntu 11.10.  The main backend will shutdown the Slave BE, if it isn't required which was working great. Now when doing the shutdown it hangs and just sits there.  If I push the power button and hold till it shutdown, I can then turn the computer back on and it boots fine.  I've also ran the same shutdown command via the terminal with the same result.  This was a fresh install and this didn't happen till the last update a few da
[19:59] <bonelifer> ys ago.
[19:59] <escott> wjtaylor, you just add it back to the array and it will be caught back up
[19:59] <holstein> maybe have some info if you track those links down ^^
[19:59] <thiefy> holstein, i really doubt i've turned that off, i would have wanted that feature.
[19:59] <escott> wjtaylor, but it is seldom the case that it isn't actually faulty
[20:00] <_sisu_> yes i know that
[20:00] <emdik> holstein: it seems now that I had luck setting up my network connection into the laptop, but I still have issues: I can't ping this laptop from a windows laptop and the router still doesn't list my laptop as a client while the windows laptop is listed, so there is still something fishy going on but I cannot find the exact problem
[20:00] <_sisu_> but what is the difference btw those terminals and the console
[20:00] <escott> _sisu_, it is traditional
[20:00] <holstein> thiefy: could be something on a per-machine dns setting level too i suppose
[20:00] <_sisu_> ctrl + alt + t
[20:00] <escott> _sisu_, they are "the console"
[20:00] <emdik> holstein: also, it seems that *sometimes* I can ping/ssh/connect to my laptop but sometimes I can't
[20:00] <_sisu_> but that tradition must be for something i guess
[20:00] <holstein> _sisu_: the gui ones emulate those..
[20:00] <_sisu_> yes i know that too :)
[20:00] <escott> _sisu_, an xterm/gnome-terminal is a terminal emulator using a pts device
[20:01] <emdik> holstein: this coincides with my recent upgrade to 12.10 so this is why I suspect someting on my laptop
[20:01] <_sisu_> xterm is like LXDE right ?
[20:01] <holstein> emdik: i would try removing variables.. starting with the wifi connection.. wire up and test
[20:01] <_sisu_> in lubuntu
[20:01] <holstein> emdik: then, take your router from the equation, if you have another router/switch
[20:01] <ThinkT510> _sisu_: lxde is a desktop environment
[20:01] <holstein> !info xterm
[20:01] <ThinkT510> _sisu_: xterm is a terminal emulator
[20:01] <holstein> !lxde
[20:02] <_sisu_> ok
[20:02] <_sisu_> dont really know the difference
[20:02] <_sisu_> i should google :)
[20:02] <holstein> _sisu_: the emulators, emulate that console... you can do the same both places, bascially
[20:03] <escott> _sisu_, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/21280/difference-between-pts-and-tty
[20:03] <ThinkT510> _sisu_: you don't know the difference between a desktop environment (the graphical user interface) and a terminal emulator (where you input commands)
[20:03] <_sisu_> interesting
[20:03] <holstein> _sisu_: i wouldnt worry about it.. when you need to know, you'll know... if you have a desktop environment, you can use a terminal emulator.. if you dont, you just use the console
[20:03] <_sisu_> yes, i was thinking that know
[20:04] <ClientAlive> I want to use some password manager but I want to set it up in such a way that there is encryption to log into it and that a compoinent for logging in is only on an sd card. I want to have a situation where - unless you insert that sd card it will be impossible to log into the password manager (even if you know the password to login).  <-  is this possible??
[20:04] <_sisu_> very interesting in any case
[20:04] <Ray> Hi , Englisch or German ?
[20:04] <holstein> _sisu_: think of them as tools that have similar functions depending on where you are and which one you need
[20:05] <emdik> holstein: I'll try to make certain that the problem is on the laptop then, thank you for your help
[20:05] <escott> ClientAlive, yes that should be supported by pam
[20:05] <holstein> emdik: cheers!
[20:05] <ClientAlive> escott: So this is not a new idea?
[20:05] <escott> ClientAlive, and if you were talking about gnome-keyring and not PAM then you can just put the keyring on the device
[20:05] <escott> ClientAlive, no its call 2-factor authentication
[20:07] <omgirc> hello? hi i just installed 12.04 lts and i can't get desktop icons. how do i do this pelasE?
[20:07] <Yoshi2889> Just wanted to inform everyone that I just installed Linux Mint and it solved the Checking battery state... issue
[20:07] <ClientAlive> escott: ahh. Well, I'm not sure if putting gnome-keyring on the card is what I'm really thinking of. What I want is to split up uniqe and required components for logging into it so that one can not work without the other.. Is that the 2-factor thing then?
[20:07] <Yoshi2889> omgirc: Place any files in the Desktop folder in your home folder
[20:08] <omgirc> Yoshi2889,  for instance, if i wanted a firefox icon on the desktop for quick access, how please do i do that
[20:08] <escott> ClientAlive, are you talking about the keyring or login?
[20:09] <escott> ClientAlive, in either case its still two-factor
[20:09] <Yoshi2889> omgirc: You can place the Firefox icon in the launcher
[20:09] <ClientAlive> escott: I want to begin using a password manager (to store all my passwords). But I want to protect the ability to log into the password manager itself by the aformentioned scheme.
[20:09] <omgirc> Yoshi2889,  but not the desktop ?
[20:09] <Yoshi2889> You'd have to create a .desktop file and I don't remember how
[20:09] <escott> ClientAlive, so the keyring not the login
[20:11] <ClientAlive> escott: some maybe something like an encryped password for log into the password manager then have the private key component on the sd card and the public part just normal on the computer???
[20:11] <escott> ClientAlive, the encryption the keyring uses is symmetric
[20:11] <ClientAlive> escott: I'm thinknig 'Pentagon/ CIA' style - without physical possesion of the sd card you're not gonna log into the password manager
[20:12] <escott> ClientAlive, why would the keyring use an asymmetric encryption?
[20:12] <thiefy> holstein, i found it. it is under 'services' i just hadn't noticed it before.
[20:12] <Ronalds_Mz> who else is with nickname Ronalds_M
[20:13] <Ronalds_Mz> or is it just xchat in background lol
[20:13] <thiefy> * [Ronalds_M] (~ronalds@87.110.52.136): Ronalds     <---  this guy.
[20:13] <ClientAlive> escott: I have not idea about these thing. I do, however, know that if one must physically possess some secondary physical device (in this case an sd card) in order to login, it would stop any cracker dead in his tracks (even if he had possession of the computer itself).
[20:13] <thiefy> which is you ronald.
[20:14] <escott> ClientAlive, stop saying "login" if you don't mean "login"
[20:14] <ClientAlive> escott: So, take my laptop, go ahead, if you don't have the card key you will get nothing - ever
[20:14] <omgirc> Yoshi2889,  easiest way to create favourite icon on ubuntu 12.04. Click Home Folder –> File System –> usr –> share –> applications. Right click your favourite icon, choose Copy To –> Desktop
[20:14] <ClientAlive> escott: I mean solely for logging into the password manager alone (not other login).
[20:15] <escott> ClientAlive, as I said "keyring"
[20:15] <ClientAlive> escott: one does have to authenticate to access the contants of a password manager don't they?
[20:15] <thiefy> ClientAlive, it's called a yubikey    google it.
[20:15] <ClientAlive> ok
[20:15] <escott> ClientAlive, so put your keyring on the usb device
[20:15] <ClientAlive> ok
[20:15] <ClientAlive> thans for the tip I will google that  :)
[20:16] <escott> ClientAlive, a yubikey is something different its for two-factor login
[20:16] <LoneTrooper> Does anybody know good games on linux besides assault cube, openArena, Red Eclipse, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, Warzone 2100 & Xmoto?
[20:16] <escott> ClientAlive, you are wanting some kind of two factor keyring which doesn't make much sense
[20:16] <thiefy> ClientAlive, google itself is going to start using yubikeys for google logins. yaaaay!
[20:16] <Appel> okay guys, i managed to Boot Grub, now what. im in the command promt, i want to install linux ubuntu that i have on the same usb stick as an EFI grub
[20:16] <ClientAlive> escott: np. now that I have a couple terms to look up I can study into it Thanks for providing some terminalogy to get me started.
[20:18] <thiefy> Appel, read this:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/157055/install-ubuntu-from-iso-file-using-grub2
[20:19] <LoneTrooper> come on 1768 ppl here, give me some recommendations
[20:20] <emdik> hello, is holstein still around?
[20:20] <kalen_> LoneTrooper: nice way to get attention
[20:20] <kalen_> LoneTrooper: Are you looking for purely open source? Because Steam is available and has quite a few commercial games available
[20:21] <Appel> thiefy:  Im supposed to use the iso ubuntu by that? not a pendrive one?
[20:21] <ThinkT510> LoneTrooper: 0ad can be fun
[20:21] <thiefy> appel huh? you can do that with any iso file.
[20:21] <escott> Appel, what do you mean by "boot grub" what command prompt are you at?
[20:21] <kalen_> LoneTrooper: there's also warsow
[20:21] <thiefy> Appel, i just did it an hour ago with something different than ubuntu.
[20:21] <ClientAlive> escott: well, a person begins using a password manager when they want to keep using multiple uniqe passwrods but are beginning to find it difficult to rememver them all right? And the password manager itself requires authentication to view or modify it's contents right? So letts assume some of those stored passwords are critical (financial or otherwise very private). Now, if someon gains access to the computer system then can lauchch the
[20:21] <ClientAlive> password manager (no problem here - yet). If they somehow break the password for the password manager they will acquire all your passwords. Ok, so if you have to have a second physical device in order to log into the password manager - even if you know the password you can't log into the password manager withouth that device in your possesion - then you pretty dam secure from having all your passwords fall into the worng hands.
[20:21] <ClientAlive> That's what I'm talking about
[20:22] <thiefy> Appel, you will have to modify the instructions a tiny bit if it's a diff OS than ubuntu.
[20:22] <ClientAlive> Langley type $#!^
[20:22] <thiefy> Appel, and, the guy spelled initrd wrong.
[20:22] <pmitros> Is there some place where I can look up what files Ubuntu applications correspond to? I'm not running Gnome or similar (minimal install), but I often want to get to things like "Sound Recorder" or "Sound Settings" referenced in HOWTOs and in web pages.
[20:22] <pmitros> I'm not sure how to get to those from the command line.
[20:22] <escott> ClientAlive, the keyring (which is the terminology we use) is just an application that symmetrically encrypts the information inside the keyring. it is traditionally (one ubuntu) encrypted and decrypted with the SAME PASSWORD AS LOGIN.
[20:23] <escott> ClientAlive, you can change your keyring password and you will be asked twice
[20:23] <escott> ClientAlive, but there is no risk that someone could steal the laptop and be able to read the keyring
[20:23] <tassadar_> Hello all, im looking for some help with a clean install of 12.10 ubuntu
[20:24] <Appel> escott:  grub command promt i think
[20:24] <steve07> I am new to ubuntu and Live CD.  the disk I made works on one PC.  But does not connect to internet when using a gigabyte mobo. any ideas?
[20:24] <ClientAlive> escott: ok. i didn't know that. Then how does one make use of the keyring? By entering the same password as they login with?
[20:24] <escott> ClientAlive, you can put the keyring on a usb stick and then they have to steal both the password and the usb stick (which may be easier to steal than the laptop itself)
[20:24] <ClientAlive> ok
[20:24] <escott> ClientAlive, if the keyring password is the login password then it automatically unlocks on login. if it is different you get prompted
[20:25] <LoneTrooper> oh yeh warsow i played it but for this kind of game openarena i find more attractive thx for response kalen
[20:25] <ClientAlive> escott: ok. So in practical use the person just enters one password in exchange for all their unique passwords that the keyring stores?
[20:25] <Ice_Strike> Is it possible to install Ubunto on Drive D without booting out from Windows?
[20:25] <escott> ClientAlive, ive never heard of anyone trying to two-factor protect the keyring because most people who are concerned about those kinds of things will use ecryptfs or the like
[20:25] <emdik> it seems that holstein left, any other network experts around?
[20:26] <tassadar_> is software center crashing constantly upon fresh install... normal? ive reinstalled multiple times across several HDDs and get the same issue
[20:26] <emdik> altough it seems that I might have a driver problem, I don't know
[20:26] <escott> Appel, im wondering what you are doing that is getting you to the grub menu but not into the cd
[20:26] <escott> Appel, if you are following some instructions it would help us to know which and what step you are on
[20:26] <Appel> Well , the problem is the Efi, pendrive and linux live stuff dosent make a EFI folder on my usb
[20:27] <Appel> and thats needed to be able to boot on my comp
[20:27] <LoneTrooper> tassdar what kind of graphic card ur using it may be just because of drivers
[20:27] <ClientAlive> escott: well I should point out that some of my passwords are online passwrods. The problem is I create very very strong passwods and not I'm up to about 5 or 6 to hold in my head - it's becoming wiierisome.
[20:27] <tassadar_> integrated, this is a netbook
[20:27] <escott> Appel, the pendrive should be bootable without an efi system partition
[20:27] <escott> Appel, how did you create the pendrive
[20:28] <LoneTrooper> for amd ati HD6670  i had to download from manufacturer's website to get rid off the bugs
[20:28] <Appel> universal usb installer
[20:28] <Appel> and a manual efi boot from grub :/
[20:28] <ClientAlive> escott: at any rate, I'm failing to see how a keyring helps. I'm wondering if it doesn't actually dilute security.
[20:28] <Appel> cuz my comp dosent find anything from pendrive
[20:28] <mikej> How do I add a DFS folder into Ubuntu that is stored on a Windows network?
[20:29] <ThinkT510> !samba | mikej
[20:29] <Appel> initr (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
[20:29] <escott> ClientAlive, what?
[20:29] <Appel> that first one supposed to be what?
[20:31] <escott> Appel, what is "universal usb installer"?
[20:31] <ClientAlive> escott: What I'm saying is my concern is not limited to the domain of the o/s (the system). I have passwords to remember where the login is over the internet (my bank account for instance).
[20:31] <Appel> from pendrive linux place
[20:31] <Dr_Doom> I want dowload kubuntu 12.10, but I preffer an torrent already atualized. Is it possible?
[20:31] <Dr_Doom> "a"
[20:32] <escott> Appel, i would follow the instructions on ubuntu.com. maybe this pendrive linux doesn't make efi usb sticks
[20:32] <emdik> could some help with my networking problem? It may be related to network setup problems but I have confirmed that it is only present if I use my wifi
[20:32] <ClientAlive> escott: Why would anyone want to exchange 5 or 7 strong, unique passwords for one?
[20:32] <Appel> i havent found any usb program that makes efi's yet, thats the problem
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Doom  scroll down to bittorent http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[20:32] <escott> ClientAlive, so don't put them in the keyring and type them in every time from memory
[20:32] <jrib> ClientAlive: easier to remember :)  It's a trade-off
[20:32] <LoneTrooper> dr doom why dont try Xubuntu? its lighter and works same
[20:33] <Dr_Doom> Here is the channel for kubuntu too, correct?
[20:33] <ClientAlive> escott: oh forget it. Thx. Really, but this is useless. I'll resarch the terms you gave me. Thank you for that.
[20:33] <escott> [20:33] <LoneTrooper> it had xfce as default window manager instead of kde plasma
[20:33] <phunyguy> question... in Kubuntu, if I have my laptop closed, and unplug power, it goes to sleep.  In Ubuntu, the same action won't make it sleep. If I close the lid with power removed, it sleeps, just not if the lid is already closed.   Is there a workaround?
[20:34] <LoneTrooper> phunyguy go to settings manager and choose power manager
[20:34] <LoneTrooper> and check for options
[20:34] <phunyguy> LoneTrooper: I have done all that.
[20:34] <phunyguy> there arent many options there
[20:34] <no-n> is there a mate based ubuntu?
[20:34] <bekks> no-n: No.
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> no-n  no
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> no-n  mate is mint thingy
[20:35] <phunyguy> !mint
[20:35] <no-n> hehe, yeah.
[20:35] <no-n> I've been using mint for a while now
[20:35] <stercor> I have a 2Gb RAM stick, thumb drive, USB drive --- whatever it's called today.  It formats (ext2, ext3, ext4, and vfat to 482 Mb.  How can I get it up to the 2Gb?
[20:35] <no-n> but mate-ubuntu would have more support
[20:36] <samir__> hello
[20:36] <leftyfb> stercor: use gparted you remove the partitions on it and create a new one
[20:36] <phunyguy> !discuss | no-n
[20:36] <kalen_> stercor: use something like gparted and make sure there aren't any extra partitions
[20:36] <kalen_> leftyfb beat me to it
[20:37] <LoneTrooper> stercor du u want to format it in fat32 or ntfs  ?
[20:37] <stercor> leftyfb:  Thanks! /me scratches head and wonders why he didn't think of it...
[20:37] <stercor> \me>
[20:37] <broknbottle> 2 gigabit usb drive?
[20:37] <kalen_> pretty fast eh
[20:37] <stercor> broknbottle: Yes, I use it for Linux distros.
[20:38] <broknbottle> you mean 2GB
[20:38] <kalen_> or 2 gigabyte
[20:38] <leftyfb> stercor: broknbottle was correcting your use of Gb as opposed to GB
[20:38] <alok__> hi all
[20:38] <broknbottle> typically B = storage, b = speed
[20:38] <phunyguy> !ot
[20:38] <leftyfb> which in your case, I feel context was sufficient to get the point across
[20:39] <bekks> Typically: Byte => Storage, Bit => Bandwidth
[20:39] <stercor> OK...I thought that Gb was the 1024-based system...is it GB for 1024?
[20:39] <kalen_> sticklers in here
[20:39] <phunyguy> !ot | stercor, bekks, leftyfb, broknbottle
[20:39] <leftyfb> yup
[20:39] <broknbottle> :D
[20:39] <leftyfb> phunyguy: we get it, thanks
[20:39] <phunyguy> apparently not.
[20:39] <BobLfoot> so is "steam on ubuntu" on or off topic for this channel?
[20:39] <jgcampbell300> hello ...  anyone know of a gui that will assist me in running multi cli from ubuntu 64 desk top to connect to 5+ servers at the same time ?
[20:40] <leftyfb> sorry to interrupt all the other support questions going on in here
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> BobLfoot  #ubuntu-steam
[20:40] <samir__> I have a problem in netbeans in ubuntu
[20:40] <samir__> error message:
[20:40] <samir__> when I compile
[20:40] <samir__> Have no file for / usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/netx.jar
[20:40] <samir__> Have no file for / usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/plugin.jar
[20:40] <samir__> I am a beginner
[20:40] <phunyguy> BobLfoot: I would guess on-topic since it is in USC now
[20:40] <FloodBot1> samir__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <Burritoh> BobLfoot: not really, but you're much more likely to find answers tailored to you on #ubuntu-steam and #steamlug - since people there are Steam users. Not everyone here is Steam user.
[20:40] <leftyfb> jgcampbell300: terminator
[20:40] <broknbottle> phunyguy: I'd rather the community relay information correctly, it makes troubleshooting and assisting easier
[20:40] <escott> stercor, its GiB (base 2^10) vs GB (base 10)
[20:41] <jgcampbell300> leftyfb, thanks
[20:41] <phunyguy> broknbottle: well I would imagine that is a gray area now.  thanks.
[20:41] <BobLfoot> phunyguy: I'll stop back alter tonight then - right now I am getting black screen when TF2 launches.
[20:41] <BobLfoot> s/alter/later/
[20:41] <phunyguy> considering steam is in the USC...
[20:41] <Ice_Strike> Is it possible to install Ubunto on Drive D without booting out from Windows?
[20:42] <leftyfb> phunyguy: notice they are "guidelines", not rules. Stop being so black and white and offer help instead of nit-picking
[20:42] <bekks> Ice_Strike: Only using WUBI, which is not recommended. :)
[20:42] <Ice_Strike> why?
[20:42] <nick_h> in /etc/aliases , i have "nick: nick-dev@deadorange.com" . however, when a cron job of mine generates output, an email isn't delivered to my email address despite /var/log/exim4/mainlog saying "2013-02-17 20:42:01 1U7B3h-00038Z-AP Completed". why would that be?
[20:42] <usr13> Ice_Strike: "without booting out from Windows?"
[20:42] <phunyguy> I wasn't nitpicking.. I was saying it could be supported...
[20:42] <emdik> why is that my laptop's visible on the network when plugged into the router but it isn't when using wifi?
[20:43] <JoshDreamland> Why's the latest libbox2d-dev from the stone age?
[20:43] <broknbottle> emdik: firewall applied to different interfaces? need more information
[20:43] <yasser> slt
[20:43] <leftyfb> emdik: define visible on the network
[20:43] <samir__> I have a problem in netbeans in ubuntu error message: when I compile Have no file for / usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/netx.jar  Have no file for / usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/plugin.jar   I am a beginner
[20:44] <stercor> Why is WUBI not recommended and whatis the recommended way?  I have a bricked computer that won't even in stall Ubuntu desktop.
[20:44] <usr13> Ice_Strike: A regular install will mean that you set aside hard drive space for the install, (shrink existing partition(s) or install on second HD).
[20:44] <emdik> I cannot ping my laptop from my desktop when using wifi (recently upgraded to ubuntu 12.10)
[20:44] <usr13> Ice_Strike: ...or existing free space.
[20:44] <emdik> the router isn't listing my laptop as a connected device
[20:44] <leftyfb> stercor: If the computer is bricked, how are you able to run windows but not install ubuntu?
[20:44] <bekks> stercor: WUBI requires a working Windows installation, and the entire WUBI installation resides in one big file in windows.
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | emdik start here
[20:44] <tonsofpcs> emdik: maybe you're not connected?
[20:45] <leftyfb> emdik: on your router you'll have a setting under wireless dictating "AP separation" or something along those lines
[20:45] <phunyguy> leftyfb: also, the guidelines ARE rules.  They are expected to be followed.
[20:45] <usr13> stercor: The recommended method is regular install.
[20:45] <leftyfb> phunyguy: incorrect
[20:45] <emdik> tonsofpcs: I am connected, as evidenced by me chatting here ^^
[20:45] <leftyfb> emdik: on your router you'll have a setting under wireless dictating "AP Isolation"
[20:45] <phunyguy> then why have them, leftyfb?
[20:45] <leftyfb> emdik: disable it
[20:45] <bekks> phunyguy: leftyfb: could you discuss the guidelines/rules somewhere else? :)
[20:46] <usr13> stercor: Describe the problem, (maybe we can help).
[20:46] <samir__> I have a problem in netbeans in ubuntu error message: when I compile Have no file for / usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/netx.jar Have no file for / usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/plugin.jar I am a beginner
[20:46] <stercor> usr13: IIRC, this allows Ubuntu to be installed along side another OS.
[20:46] <usr13> stercor: "IIRC"?
[20:46] <leftyfb> stercor: what error do you get when trying to boot the ubuntu live cd and install ubuntu?
[20:47] <emdik> leftyfb: I never enabled it; the problem is not persistent, I could ping an hour ago
[20:47] <stercor> usr13:  If I recall correctly.
[20:47] <leftyfb> emdik: are you sure you're pinging the correct ip? The wired and wireless interfaces will grab different ip's
[20:47] <emdik> leftyfb: my laptop isn't even listed as a connected device on the router management interface
[20:47] <usr13> stercor: Define "IIRC"
[20:47] <Fuzolan> why i cant set cpuset.cpu_exclusive on cgroups libvirt/qemu
[20:47] <leftyfb> usr13: "If I Recall Correctly"
[20:48] <sp3ck> emdik, think about changing router
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> usr13  he just said, IIRC means If I Recall Correctly
[20:48] <usr13> leftyfb: Define "this"
[20:48] <leftyfb> emdik: sounds like an issue with you connecting to wireless in general. Do you get an ip when connected? If so, can you ping it?
[20:48] <phunyguy> question... in Kubuntu, if I have my laptop closed, and unplug power, it goes to sleep. In Ubuntu, the same action won't make it sleep. If I close the lid with power removed, it sleeps, just not if the lid is already closed. Is there a workaround?
[20:48] <stercor> leftyfb: Either during BIOS boot or shortly after a screen showing the i86 registers and the program stops with an error.
[20:48] <emdik> leftyfb: I am on the wifi now
[20:49] <leftyfb> phunyguy: KDE and Gnome have different utilities and defaults for power settings
[20:49] <usr13> stercor: Is this a UEFI system?
[20:49] <Ice_Strike> usr13 Well On Disk2 - There are two set of NTFS partitions - I going to delete 1 partition and I let Ubunto install it.
[20:49] <emdik> leftyfb: I have an ip and I can connect to irc
[20:49] <Ice_Strike> Ubuntu*
[20:49] <phunyguy> leftyfb: this I know, just wondering if there is a way to make it work.
[20:49] <leftyfb> stercor: : what error?
[20:49] <MK`> Ok, tried another install of Ubuntu... when I boot it up, it just goes to a flashing screen :( not sure where to go next.
[20:49] <leftyfb> phunyguy: yes, in the power settings
[20:50] <usr13> leftyfb: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the  BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:50] <stercor> usr13: I don't know.  It's a friend's computer.  How do I find out?
[20:50] <leftyfb> usr13: sorry, don't recall asking for that answer
[20:50] <usr13> Ice_Strike: How large is that 1 partition?
[20:50] <usr13> leftyfb: Sorry that was for stercor
[20:51] <Ice_Strike> usr13 159GB
[20:51] <anew>  Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap i keep getting this error in lubuntu ?
[20:51] <usr13> Ice_Strike: Nice.
[20:51] <phunyguy> leftyfb: sorry, the only option in power settings is to sleep on close when it is already unplugged.
[20:51] <LoneTrooper> MK' ubuntu have problems with their default window manager unity on certain graphic cards especially that applies for amd ati cards u should run in recovery mode and install property drivers
[20:51] <phunyguy> the SAME option in KDE will allow it to sleep IF closed and the power gets unplugged.
[20:51] <MK`> ok, can you help me with that LoneTrooper?
[20:51] <phunyguy> leftyfb: do you see the workflow I am talking about?
[20:52] <Ice_Strike> usr13 Should I use WUBI?
[20:52] <LoneTrooper> i had the same problem MK' its a problem even for xubuntu
[20:52] <LoneTrooper> when i booted pc after installing xubuntu i had blank screen
[20:52] <phunyguy> leftyfb: I want it to go to sleep if the lid is ALREADY closed and then I unplug the laptop.
[20:53] <stercor> usr13:  The label on the computer says >600MB
[20:53] <leftyfb> that's a lack of feature in the gnome-settings
[20:53] <phunyguy> my kid doesn't always remember to unplug and THEN close.
[20:53] <zykotick9> Ice_Strike: if you're going to go teh WUBI route, i'd suggest using virtualbox instead.
[20:53] <MK`> LoneTrooper: so I execute a shell on my root directory and install some things is all?
[20:53] <leftyfb> phunyguy: you would have to track down what the KDE app is actually doing in the backend and set it manually in gnome
[20:53] <phunyguy> leftyfb: yeah I am thinking some custom udev rules.
[20:53] <LoneTrooper> no mk' is your graphic card is amd ati? and if yes what model
[20:54] <phunyguy> leftyfb: that was more what I was asking for, not a canned "thats not a feature" answer.  :P
[20:54] <LoneTrooper> i  had same problem , blank screen or whole blank screen except toolbar that was flashing
[20:54] <MK`> yes, it's a Radeon HD 6950
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> i have radeon 6670 so we have radeon from 6xxx series
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> its drivers froblem
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> ur using open source drivers
[20:55] <govinda> how does one install the umuntu
[20:55] <stercor> usr13: gparted reports 481.14 MiB.  The DataTravler says 2GB on the side.
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> its good for ati cards from 7xxx series not 6xxx
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> u have to change driver
[20:55] <MK`> Please tell me how
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> ok wait
[20:55] <LoneTrooper> i have commands
[20:56] <LoneTrooper> prepared for this
[20:56] <LoneTrooper> cos i had to deal with this
[20:57] <thiefy> i have real vnc server installed, how can i be certain that when i reboot the computer, vnc server will start up and let me login?  this computer is headless, so you can see why it must start.
[20:57] <phunyguy> thiefy: why did you use realvnc?
[20:58] <phunyguy> and are you using Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:59] <thiefy> phunyguy, cause it works without a fight unlike the built in methods.
[20:59] <phunyguy> thiefy: are you using Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:59] <thiefy> like xvncserver and tightvncserver packages ya can get.
[21:00] <thiefy> i am, but the server is running lubuntu
[21:00] <thiefy> well, actually, i'm on windows right now...
[21:00] <phunyguy> thiefy: on the machine you are talking about, are you using Ubuntu Desktop?
[21:00] <thiefy> no, the server is lubuntu desktop.
[21:00] <phunyguy> thanks.
[21:00] <phunyguy> thiefy: http://superuser.com/questions/146457/how-do-i-add-startup-applications-in-lubuntu-lxde
[21:00] <thiefy> it's headless, but has a full X and stuff installed.
[21:01] <leftyfb> thiefy: you'll want to use x11vnc and follow the tutorials on google for incorporating it into LXDM
[21:02] <MK`> Ready when you are LT
[21:02] <Phewk> i just a second ssd so i can have windows on one and linux on the other, where should i put the boot loader, so i can dual boot?
[21:02] <Phewk> just bought*
[21:02] <escott> Phewk, on the device the bios is configured to boot
[21:02] <leftyfb> Phewk: on the drive with linux on it ... unless that's the second drive in the BIOS, then put it on both
[21:02] <thiefy> leftyfb, i have vnc server already installed and fully working on the server / lubuntu computer.
[21:03] <Phewk> ok thanks!
[21:03] <phunyguy> thiefy: follow that guide to add realvnc to startup apps, and have lubuntu log in automaticallu.
[21:03] <phunyguy> s/u/y/
[21:03] <thiefy> phunyguy, ok. i'lll read. tahnks.
[21:04] <Logos01> Howdy folks. Anyone here had any luck getting snort-pgsql running?
[21:04] <leftyfb> thiefy: If LXDM is starting on boot, then you are wasting resources. LXDM us running, yet you're running an entirely different xserver with real vnc. If you don't have LXDM running on boot, then you can just put real vnc into /etc/rc.local
[21:04] <phunyguy> !ask | Logos01
[21:04] <Logos01> Specifically on a 12.04 amd64
[21:04] <civ> Does anyone know how to get the taskbar back down the bottom in 12.04
[21:04] <Logos01> phunyguy: that *WAS* the question.
[21:04] <Logos01> wtf.
[21:04] <leftyfb> phunyguy: how is he going to login if it's headless if he's adding vnc to startup(after login)?
[21:05] <phunyguy> Logos01: try asking the real question now, and watch your language.
[21:05] <Logos01> phunyguy: That. Was. The. Real. Question.
[21:05] <thiefy> leftyfb, i'm confused now. but i thik you are very correct.
[21:05] <Logos01> And don't be a twit.
[21:05] <phunyguy> !anyone | Logos01
[21:05] <Burritoh> /o\
[21:05] <hastur_> My custom wallpapers are not visible on login screen - only the default violet is displayed. However, if I set one of the preinstalled Ubuntu wallpapers, it's visible on login screen. (using 12.10)
[21:05] <thiefy> rememeber, it's headless, but i can easily plug in a monitor and it has a full DE.
[21:05] <zykotick9> civ: it's on the left now...  i don't think ubuntu lets you change that by default.
[21:06] <Logos01> phunyguy: You're an ass. Which I didn't really not expect of people moderating this channel, but you're taking it to all new extremes.
[21:06] <phunyguy> wow...
[21:06] <Burritoh> I didn't really see a problem *shrug*
[21:06] <Burritoh> oh well
[21:07] <leftyfb> thiefy: A default install of LXDE will install LXDM (desktop manager/greeter) that asks you to login. If you're running that, then you don't want to be using real VNC. You want to tie x11vnc into LXDM so you can login remotely and continue running a normal desktop. Otherwise, remove LXDM completely, continue using real vnc and add it to /etc/rc.local or create an init file for it and add it to the default runlevel startups
[21:07] <phunyguy> leftyfb: that may be a bit too complex for what he needs
[21:07] <leftyfb> phunyguy: incorrect
[21:07] <thiefy> leftyfb, i should say it's peppermint (not lubuntu) if that changes anything.   sorry, i forgot about that.
[21:08] <Inglorious`> does some one know a nice conf file of apache 2 for upstart?
[21:08] <phunyguy> thiefy: that really changes things
[21:08] <thiefy> sorry.
[21:08] <leftyfb> thiefy: of course you did, which is why I removed you from the other channel. But with regards to your issue, it shouldn't matter.
[21:08] <phunyguy> and leftyfb, is he making it a terminal-server of sorts, to have multiple users using their own desktop?
[21:08] <leftyfb> phunyguy: he never mentioned multiple users
[21:08] <zykotick9> Inglorious`: if you installed apache through repo, it should already be there
[21:09] <thiefy> i wouldn't need multiple users logging in.
[21:09] <leftyfb> If he wants multiple users, then LXDM + x11vnc will be his only choice
[21:09] <phunyguy> leftyfb: that is why I suggested he leave it logging in automatically, and thn running whatever vnc server he wants under that session.
[21:09] <leftyfb> phunyguy: insecure
[21:09] <stercor> Is there a lower-level utility than GParted?
[21:09] <phunyguy> leftyfb: how?
[21:09] <leftyfb> stercor: lower level?
[21:09] <leftyfb> phunyguy: automatic login is insecure
[21:09] <stercor> Down on the bare metal.
[21:10] <Inglorious`> zykotick9: it isnt
[21:10] <Inglorious`> I checked
[21:10] <leftyfb> stercor: there's no low-level partitioning anymore
[21:10] <phunyguy> is it a home server, leftyb, thiefy?
[21:10] <thiefy> i do like leftyfb 's idea of not running two X servers. i should boot to a shell right? and then have rc.local somehow start the x11vnc
[21:10] <zykotick9> Inglorious`: is this xampp?
[21:10] <Inglorious`> no
[21:10] <leftyfb> thiefy: yes
[21:10] <appel> im trying to do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599293 , but i cant find the Grub modules anywhere. aint the included in the download?
[21:10] <Inglorious`> I installed ith from default repos
[21:10] <stercor> GParted still reports 481.84 MiB on the 2GiB and 64GiB devices.
[21:10] <thiefy> yes. home. not really a server. just a normal peppermint  install cept it doesn't have / need a monitor attached to it.
[21:11] <Inglorious`> zykotick9
[21:11] <leftyfb> stercor: delete the partitions. Or you have some limitation in your motherboard/BIOS
[21:11] <Inglorious`> I have a standard shelkl script in /etc/init.d
[21:11] <escott> stercor, is that not just the partitioned size? is it not showing empty space at the end? what does "sudo parted -l" show
[21:11] <thiefy> leftyfb, how can i make this rc.local make x11vnc start automatically?
[21:11] <phunyguy> thiefy: linux mint?
[21:11] <Inglorious`> no symlink to upstart
[21:11] <zykotick9> Inglorious`: perhaps it's still using inti.d and not upstart then
[21:11] <thiefy> no, it's peppermint.  a mod of lubuntu
[21:12] <Inglorious`> zykotick9: my guess to
[21:12] <Inglorious`> too
[21:12] <phunyguy> never heard of it, but probably borderline not-supported here.
[21:12] <stercor> My main disc which is recognized is 600GiB on the netbook and 2TeB on the desktop.
[21:12] <thiefy> it's quite close to lubuntu.
[21:12] <leftyfb> thiefy: x11vnc will tie into LXDE .. there should/might be tutorials on it. I know there are tutorials for GDM
[21:12] <phunyguy> however if you get help that is cool too
[21:12] <stercor> s/disc/disk/
[21:13] <phunyguy> thiefy: yes, but once new repos are added that arent maintained by *ubuntu, thats where it starts to lean towards being not supported.
[21:13] <zykotick9> stercor: is this 2TB or 2GB?
[21:13] <leftyfb> thiefy: the startup (after getting it to work with LXDM) will be: x11vnc -forever -usepw -noxdamage
[21:13] <stercor> 2 terabytes.
[21:13] <AcidRain2013> stercor: perhaps you have 2 partitions that are of different filetypes?
[21:13] <thiefy> leftyfb, how do i impliment that last thing you just said there?   in rc.local.  (i've never messed with rc.local
[21:14] <zykotick9> stercor: and i'll get it's attached by USB right?  i couldn't address all my 3TB drive until i attached it with SATA, through USB it was all wrong/messed up.  perhaps your having the same situation?
[21:14] <leftyfb> thiefy: sudo echo "x11vnc -forever -usepw -noxdamage"|tee /etc/rc.local
[21:14] <stercor> AcidRain2013: Plain vanilla 12.10 install.
[21:14] <zykotick9> s/get/guess/
[21:14] <leftyfb> thiefy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1868554    first result on google for "lxdm x11vnc"
[21:15] <AcidRain2013> stercor: is this drive internal or external?
[21:15] <bekks> leftyfb: that will not work. echo "..." | sudo tee ... would be correct.
[21:15] <thiefy> leftyfb, i didn't know i was running lxdm. i thought it was xfce. (that's how 'smart' i am) hehe.
[21:15] <stercor> AcidRain2013: Internal
[21:15] <leftyfb> bekks: thank you for the correction
[21:15] <AcidRain2013> so how are you attaching it to your notebook?
[21:16] <AcidRain2013> netbook*
[21:16] <leftyfb> bekks: doing a few things at once ... as usual
[21:16] <stercor> I'm not.  The desktop unfortunately has no connection to the router.
[21:16] <stercor> That will be fixed next week.
[21:16] <thiefy> so i shouldn't paste taht line he put there bekks?
[21:16] <AcidRain2013> ... you are gaining access from your netbook as ftp?
[21:16] <bekks> thiefy: Yes, because it will not work as expected.
[21:17] <thiefy> poop.
[21:17] <stercor> We have three machines here: the netbook, the desktop, and the bricked computer.
[21:17] <leftyfb> thiefy: echo "x11vnc -forever -usepw -noxdamage"|sudo tee /etc/rc.local
[21:17] <AcidRain2013> bricked comp. lol.
[21:17] <stercor> netbook and desktop work as advertised.
[21:17] <leftyfb> the first one won't do anything
[21:17] <leftyfb> thiefy: the first command won't do anything, the 2nd one that bekks corrected and I just posted will
[21:17] <AcidRain2013> stercor: so what is the issue? you have a 2tb drive in your desktop, you gain access to it with the netbook using ftp?
[21:17] <bekks> stercor: Did you mess up a firmware update? Why is it bricked?
[21:18] <stercor> bekks: I've not done any firmware upgrades.
[21:18] <phunyguy> leftyfb: also I found a filed bug for my power management issue.  1016576
[21:18] <AcidRain2013> if the desktop has no connection to the router, then how do you know it is only showing 600gib>
[21:18] <AcidRain2013> ?*
[21:18] <leftyfb> phunyguy: I don't think it's a bug. I think it's a feature request
[21:18] <thiefy> thank you leftyfb and bekks
[21:19] <Ronalds_Mz> downloading 1 half life
[21:19] <Ronalds_Mz> from steam
[21:19] <Ronalds_Mz> just bought it
[21:19] <phunyguy> possibly.
[21:19] <AcidRain2013> stercor: still sounds like 2 different partitions. perhaps 1 with extx on the desktop linux comp, and ntfs for the windows netbook
[21:19] <thiefy> leftyfb, so now, wouldn't i be able to make it boot to a shell instead of to a gui?
[21:19] <stercor> Um...router connection is not related to disk capacity?
[21:19] <AcidRain2013> stercor: even if your drive was going out, it shouldnt be read as having 2 different volume sizes
[21:19] <AcidRain2013> router connection has nothing to do with disk capacity...
[21:20] <AcidRain2013> there is a difference between memory, and disk space, and connectivity rly
[21:20] <leftyfb> thiefy: you need to follow the link I posted to get x11vnc to work with LXDM
[21:20] <stercor> AcidRain2013: I'm not making myself clear.  Two computers (netbook, desktop) work fine.  The third doesn't.
[21:20] <AcidRain2013> stercor: so you are trying to fix the 3rd computer?
[21:20] <stercor> Yes.
[21:20] <AcidRain2013> :/
[21:20] <AcidRain2013> is the hdd out? do you know how to test it?
[21:21] <stercor> By installing Ubuntu.
[21:21] <stercor> I'll look into a BIOS check.
[21:21] <AcidRain2013> stercor: im sry i didnt have much time to try and help. but i have to head off to work.
[21:21] <phunyguy> leftyfb: I called it a bug because that is what it is called in launchpad.
[21:21] <AcidRain2013> afk
[21:22]  * stercor is retired... :~~~
[21:22] <stercor> ;-)
[21:22] <leftyfb> phunyguy: it will be a feature request in the upstream gnome project page for the power settings app
[21:22] <phunyguy> ok.
[21:23] <Ntemis> how i setup /dev/md0 for hdd to sleep after some minutes?
[21:24] <leftyfb> Ntemis: you don't
[21:24] <leftyfb> Ntemis: md0 is a partition, not a drive
[21:24] <bekks> leftyfb: Thats wrong.
[21:24] <Ntemis> yes its raid0 partition with 4 drives
[21:24] <bekks> leftyfb: /dev/md0 is a RAID _device_.
[21:24] <leftyfb> sorry, not partition
[21:24] <Ntemis> yes but they are costant on
[21:24] <leftyfb> but it's not a drive
[21:24] <bekks> leftyfb: It doesnt need to be one.
[21:25] <Ntemis> i need them to go to sleep after 5 min of no usage
[21:25] <bekks> Ntemis: You can configure the powermanagement for every drive that builds /dev/md0
[21:25] <Ntemis> its a server
[21:25] <Ntemis> know the command?
[21:25] <bekks> Ntemis: You can use smartctl to do so.
[21:26] <leftyfb> bekks: if he has md1, md2, md3 ,etc, those will all "sleep" as well
[21:26] <Ntemis> i dont
[21:26] <Ntemis> is only md0
[21:26] <thiefy> leftyfb, i added the file to ~/.config/autostart/     and i have pasted in a terminal the line you said tehre with the echo.... | tee .... stuff.     am i on the right track?
[21:26] <leftyfb> thiefy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1868554    first result on google for "lxdm x11vnc"
[21:26] <leftyfb> thiefy: if you use autostart, then you don't need /etc/rc.local
[21:27] <Ntemis> smartctl  isnt for getting samrt status?
[21:27] <leftyfb> thiefy: also, the autostart file will need to be a .desktop file/format
[21:27] <Ntemis> smart status
[21:28] <thiefy> leftyfb, i made the autostart file as a .desktop file. it was quite basic.  so, i guess i should get rid of that rc.local line i did eh?
[21:28] <leftyfb> thiefy: yeah .. but for any of this to work, you still need to tie it into LXDM, unless you have your machine auto-login
[21:28] <bekks> Ntemis: Well, look at the options provided for smartctl.
[21:29] <Ntemis> ok
[21:29] <Ntemis> thanks
[21:29] <kickingvegas> hi folks - anybody know of a network MIDI driver for ubuntu that works like the one on the Mac?
[21:29] <leftyfb> kickingvegas: I'm not sure but this might be a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/What%20is%20JACK
[21:30] <Korejora> I created a problem by meddling in affairs beyond my comprehension... :c ... My wireless is freezing Ubuntu whenever it connects to a network. I suspect I installed the wrong driver, but I installed it with some commandline instructions I found in a support thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2071830 and I don't understand enough of what I did to uninstall the driver (or to know whether it's even the problem). What do ?
[21:32] <genadi> guys, where do I get support for 13.04?
[21:32] <genadi> I got a problem with installing samba server
[21:32] <zastern> Every time I try to change network settings by editing /etc/network/interfaces and then restarting networking i get - Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces - What is the proper way to reload network settings then?
[21:32] <Ntemis> bekks: found hdparm
[21:33] <genadi> I've got this when trying to install samba under 13.04: http://codepad.org/5iwqmjpF
[21:34] <bekks> !+1|genadi
[21:34] <OerHeks> !13.04
[21:34] <compdoc> genadi, #ubuntu+1
[21:35] <genadi> thank companion
[21:35] <genadi> compdoc,
[21:37] <SlicedSun> ANY SWEDISH PEOPLE HER?
[21:37] <herent> hello - I'm wondering if there's anyone around that knows about customizing keyboard and mouse buttons?
[21:39] <escott> !ops | dirtypillows ShameSpiral nickspam
[21:39] <jmfurlott> Anybody running Ubuntu on the last Macbook air?  Wondering how it is working as I couldn't get it working a few months ago
[21:40] <Myrtti> escott: eh?
[21:40] <SlicedSun> SWEDEN???????????????
[21:41] <escott> Myrtti, once every hour or so he does that (more annoyed by the offensive nature of the nicknames themselves than the spam)
[21:41] <Ntemis> what does this mean? drive state is:  active/idle
[21:41] <Ntemis> with sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdx
[21:42] <joshneedshelp> Hello?
[21:42] <Ntemis> is active OR idle
[21:42] <escott> Ntemis, the drive is active and idle. what else would it mean
[21:42] <Ntemis> lol
[21:42] <k1l> !se | SlicedSun
[21:42] <Ntemis> is power down?
[21:42] <Ntemis> i need it to power down when not in use
[21:42] <escott> Ntemis, active vs powered down, idle vs reading/writing at that moment
[21:42] <joshneedshelp> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop and I am having some problems, could some one help me?
[21:42] <Ntemis> escott: oh thanks
[21:42] <Ntemis> clear
[21:43] <joshneedshelp> Anyone?
[21:43] <bekks> joshneedshelp: Not without you actually telling us about the details of your installation problems.
[21:43] <yeats> joshneedshelp: just describe your problem - maybe someone can help
[21:43] <joshneedshelp> Am I in the correct channel? I require help.
[21:44] <k1l> !ask | joshneedshelp
[21:44] <joshneedshelp> ah thanks
[21:47] <joshneedshelp> !ask So I am in the process of installing Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop onto my brand new Dell laptop. It was previously running windows 8 just fine. I have been trying to install Ubuntu via usb and I have used all manner of programs to do it such as live linux and others that the ubuntu website prescribed. It worked fine when using the usb the first time but it encountered an error when it was installing so I simply turned the machine
[21:47] <joshneedshelp> !ask
[21:47] <joshneedshelp> acknowlege that it can boot from a usb
[21:48] <thiefy> phunyguy, you followed what i was up to, could you help with this ---> this guide says this:   at the command prompt, type in: sudo nano /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf   except i do not have that file. could it in a diff spot or named soemthing else?
[21:48] <Ntemis> escott: putting this command in hdpam.conf will work?
[21:48] <Ntemis> this: /dev/sda {spindown_time = 60  # 5 min}
[21:48] <Ntemis> and repeat for all 4 hdds
[21:49] <Myrtti> joshneedshelp: you got cut off at "I simply turned the machin" - IRC has a length limit to one message.
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, don't prepend '!ask' to anything, you can just ask without it (there's no bot regulation here for that).  as well, you got cut off, as Myrtti said.
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> since there's a message length limit
[21:50] <joshneedshelp> I amI simply turned the machine off and retryed. Now after numerous retries with 2 usb sticks and many different programs the machine doesnt acknowlege that it can start up from any of them
[21:51] <escott> Ntemis, it should
[21:51] <joshneedshelp> It shows that they are connected it but nothing happens when i boot from them
[21:51] <VLanX> Hello guys, i would make grub invisible on my system since i only have ubuntu 12.10 now, could anyone help me out?
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, what was the error you ran into?
[21:51] <nibbler__> joshneedshelp: so before you could boot from the usb sticks, now you can't? did your recreate them like you did in the first place?
[21:52] <joshneedshelp> I was able to boot once and then it refused to afterwards.
[21:52] <joshneedshelp> There isnt a particular error message
[21:52] <joshneedshelp> Would you like me to type what it says?
[21:53] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, it would give you an error message during installation, or ask to report it as a bug if its a crash
[21:53] <escott> Ntemis, the comment character usually goes to the end of the line
[21:53] <escott> Ntemis, so the } should probably be inside it
[21:53] <joshneedshelp> The first time it did give me an error message and I, very stupidly disregarded it and tryed to do it again. Now I dont even get to the installation screen.
[21:53] <Korejora> Is it feasible to install a network adapter that only has drivers for Windows?
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, my suggestion is to use another system to recreate the LiveUSB again.  and then try again.
[21:54] <joshneedshelp> Another system?
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, but this time, don't  disregard the installation error messgaes :P
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, or whatever system you can.
[21:54] <joshneedshelp> Im am quite a beginner, I just want to learn!
[21:54] <phunyguy> thiefy: sorry, not really a lxde user
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, by "another system" i meant a system that works :P
[21:55] <phunyguy> and I dont have an LXDE install currently
[21:55] <Ntemis> escott: dev/sdd {spindown_time = 60}  # 5 min <-like this?
[21:55] <thiefy> it's ok, phunyguy thanks anyway.
[21:55] <juan`>  /leave
[21:55] <TheLordOfTime> joshneedshelp, how did you get the USB for installation in the first place?  did you download the ISO and use unetbootin or something to write it to the USB?
[21:55] <escott> Ntemis, probably
[21:56] <joshneedshelp> I dowloaded the ISO off of ubuntu.com and then used live linux to write the usb
[21:56] <joshneedshelp> When using live linux it ways it doesnt recognize it and it says it uses the parameters for 12.10
[21:56] <joshneedshelp> which I am not installin, im installing 12.04
[21:57] <Pelo> afternoon folks , I'm trying to get a few programs to stast on boot but I'm having difficulties because they requires -options,   I tried plain I tried with "" but no go , recommendations ?
[21:57] <appel> ive installed Linux by windows installer, but shouldent i get a boot option when starting the comp? they are at different hardrives
[21:58] <Pelo> appel,  you go straight into windows ?
[21:58] <appel> yea
[21:59] <VLanX> Hello guys, i would make grub invisible on my system since i only have ubuntu 12.10 now, could anyone help me out?
[22:00] <Pelo> appel,  try this,  when first booting, after the bios screen and before windows start to launch,  hit  the esc key , that usualy gets you in grub boot menu, from there you can boot ubuntu and then you can change the grub settings for  a menu each time and a delay
[22:00] <Pelo> appel,  I don'T knwo how to make those changes however you'll have to look them up on google
[22:00] <joshneedshelp> TheLordOfTime, the message I get is "internal hard disk drive not found to resolve this issue try to reset the drive. no bootable devices--strike f1 to try to reboot, f2 enter setup menu, f5 enter psa"
[22:00] <Pelo> need to reboot
[22:01] <appel> escape did not work :/
[22:01] <joshneedshelp> appel it could be f12 or f2
[22:01] <appel> ill try
[22:01] <appel> rebootin it atm.
[22:01] <appel> what menu am I looking for?
[22:01] <appel> boot menu?
[22:01] <joshneedshelp> Yeah
[22:02] <appel> ye, f12, says windows boot manager
[22:02] <appel> nothing else
[22:02] <joshneedshelp> Thats it
[22:02] <joshneedshelp> i think
[22:02] <Pelo> appel,   try  F8 on boot to select the boot drive then
[22:02] <appel> ive gotten to the boot menu Pelo , says windows boot manager, nothing else
[22:03] <thiefy> how come in some config files there are lines commented out with a #  and some with a ;   (is it that the ;  ones are ones that you should change or something?)
[22:03] <Pelo> appel, ubuntn and windows are on different drives ?
[22:03] <appel> yea
[22:03] <Pelo> physical drives that is ?
[22:03] <appel> yup
[22:03] <Pelo> have you tried with F8 &
[22:03] <Pelo> ?
[22:03] <escott> thiefy, depends on the program. i think ";" is common in lisp languages, "#" in shell
[22:04] <thiefy> escott, i see this in smbd.conf....
[22:04] <appel> Pelo: ,not f8, f12 brought up my boot menu, ill try f8 aswell. sec
[22:04] <Tesla_> anyone online ? xD
[22:04] <joshneedshelp> yes
[22:04] <thiefy> escott, but the point is, they are both ways of commenting out lines right?
[22:04] <jrib> thiefy: in samba?  Yes, both are comments and there's a convention as to which one is used for informational comments vs. commented configuration options that you can use by uncommenting
[22:04] <Pelo> appel, in the bios, change your boot drive to the ubuntu drive and see what happens with the esc key
[22:04] <Tesla_> any linux geek here :D ?
[22:05] <thiefy> ok, jrib that makes sense. (i see it in /etc/samba/smb.conf ) is where i meant i saw it a lot.
[22:05] <Tesla_> i need some tips
[22:05] <Pelo> Tesla_, just ask your quesitons and we'll try to answer
[22:05] <thiefy> Tesla_, bet on black.
[22:05] <Korejora> Sooo... I take it wireless is a huge ordeal in Ubuntu.
[22:05] <skorv> hey guyz... maybe you can help me
[22:05] <Tesla_> cuz I am new user, i used linux before, but now i want to use forever :D
[22:06] <Pelo> !ask | Tesla_ skorv
[22:06] <Tesla_> Im also intersted in hacking network , wifi :D
[22:06] <appel> Pelo:  nothing :/
[22:06] <skorv> i'm setting up a ubuntu 12.04 using the alternative iso so i can use full disk encryption right from the start
[22:07] <Pelo> appel,  can you boot into ubuntu at all ?
[22:07] <skorv> is it possible to set it to use a key instead of a  passphrase ?
[22:07] <appel> nope, cant find it anywhere
[22:08] <Zahid> guys what is the best quality screen recording software for ubuntu
[22:08] <Zahid> I need some tips
[22:08] <Tesla_> Anyone knows good sites where i can learn more things ? :D
[22:08] <Pelo> appel, my suggestion, for what it's worth is this,  install ubuntu from a live cd. from scratch,  on the last step of the install it should ask you to check the install param. among which where the bootloader goes,  if you let your windows drive as the boot drive the bootloader (grub) should be on hd0
[22:09] <causasui> there was a page about how to rescue a locked X session. anyone remember ?
[22:09] <causasui> i just want to reload xfce without killing running apps
[22:09] <Pelo> Tesla_, google.com
[22:09] <Tesla_> xD
[22:09] <appel> the problem Pelo  is that i cant get a live cd to boot, as i have a Uefi z2760 intel atom board. :/
[22:09] <Tesla_> Hmmm, someone have problem with bootloader ?
[22:09] <appel> the only thing ive gotten to boot is grubloader 1.99
[22:09] <joshneedshelp> So can anyone else help me with my problem?
[22:09] <Pelo> skorv, where do you want this ? for login ? you can do an automated login look in the settings
[22:10] <joshneedshelp> I had typed it all above
[22:10] <Pelo> appel, isn'T that a 386 board ?
[22:10] <escott> thiefy, depending on the language. ";" is not a comment in bash shell
[22:11] <Pelo> appel, what architecture of ubuntu are you trying to run ?  there are only  amd64, 386 and powerpc as far as I know,  if your board can'T run any of those then installing it through windows won'T change anything
[22:11] <skorv> Pelo: nop... its for a dualboot laptop that i use for work... simply want my data safe...
[22:11] <appel> clover field , might be yea. its running a 32bit Win8 right now
[22:11] <samir_> i have a problem in ubuntu
[22:11] <appel> ive tried the desktop 32bit for now
[22:12] <skorv> Pelo: windows 8 is running bitlocker with key on usb... just wanted to do a similar thing for my linux install
[22:12] <Pelo> skorv, you can always try with a one carracter passoword
[22:12] <Pelo> skorv, that's out of my range
[22:12] <skorv> can i add a key after the instalation is done?
[22:12] <sayd> im using a cloud image of quantal, and i can't seem to ssh out from it. is this normal? via vagrant
[22:13] <sayd> seems that network is unreachable. i am using bridged mode
[22:13] <joshneedshelp> Would a 32 bit ubuntu install work on a 64 bit system?
[22:14] <appel> Pelo: I feel like ive tried it all :<
[22:14] <zykotick9> joshneedshelp: yes.
[22:15] <joshneedshelp> Thanks zykotick
[22:15] <Pelo> have you tried just booting from the hdd ubuntu is installed on ?
[22:15] <appel> yea
[22:16] <ubuntunoob> Helo im trying to dinstall jhbuilder but when i do jhbuild checksanity it gives me this: instal prefix (opt/gnome) can not be created. what should i do?
[22:16] <anunnaki> hi. anyone from south africa in here? trying to hunt down an old friend who helped me learn linux with using ubuntu.. he hung out in here
[22:16] <Pelo> appel,  and I'M assuming there isn'T an icon inside windows to launch ubuntu ?
[22:17] <appel> hmm, not that ive found. checked the disk, theres the icon and an uninstall exe
[22:17] <ubuntunoob> Hello im trying to dinstall jhbuilder but when i do jhbuild checksanity it gives me this: instal prefix (opt/gnome) can not be created. what should i do?
[22:18] <Pelo> appel,  i'M out of Ideas, maybe one of the others
[22:18] <anunnaki> ubuntunoob, no need to repost... we see your emssage
[22:18] <Pelo> brb , rebooting
[22:20] <anunnaki> i know its like finding a need in a haystack but worth a shot. looking for this guy who lives in S. Africa and has his own server/network business. i forgot his name.
[22:21] <darkhelmet46> can anyone give me a hand with ubuntu-webapps?
[22:23] <Cyber_Akuma> Do these ALSA sound drivers come preinstalled with Linux Mint? Or there any other alternate drivers I can use to see if I can get my soundcard to work?
[22:24] <myersg> I need help with my kernel
[22:24] <myersg> I installed 3.0.0 and need to boot into it
[22:24] <myersg> but when I hold the shift key when boot, it goes to the options menu for grub, but doesn't let me do anything
[22:24] <myersg> so I need to change the preference to boot into it from file on ubuntu
[22:25] <erle-> where does firefox store cached files in current version?
[22:25] <joshneedshelp> Akuma perhaps you should take your question to the Mint IRC channel
[22:26] <danktamagachi> hi, i installed kubuntu on top of my ubuntu install and now my defaults are all messed up. how do I go back to no KDE framework?
[22:27] <danktamagachi> get rid of default okular, etc
[22:31] <TuxBlackEdo> can someone help me with this error: "subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status status 245" http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ULY5nuPV I have been googling for hours now, a lot of solutions that worked for others but didn't work for me (including apt-get clean/reinstall/purge/dist-upgrade/ etc)
[22:32] <TuxBlackEdo> I really don't want to do a clean reinstall
[22:32] <ClientAlive> I'm having a problem with oracle 11g on ubuntu. I run 12.04 desktop and the insall seems to have gone successfully (though it was a beast to install). Now, when I do "dbstart $ORACLE_HOME" Iget a command not found error. Any idea what I can do to fix this?
[22:33] <invisime> I'm having trouble getting any sound in zsnes when xbmc is running on my ubuntu 12.10 minimal installation. what do?
[22:33] <invisime> ClientAlive: what happens if you run `which dbstart`?
[22:34] <ubuntunoob> Hello im trying to install jhbuilder but when i do jhbuild checksanity it gives me this: instal prefix (opt/gnome) can not be created. what should i do?
[22:34] <ClientAlive> invisime: running which dbstart just gets me a new command line (nothing printed to the screen)
[22:35] <invisime> ClientAlive: that means you don't have dbstart installed anywhere on your computer that linux knows about. how did you install 11g?
[22:36] <darkhelmet46> has anyone had any success getting Unity Web Apps to work with Chrome?
[22:36] <ClientAlive> invisime: like this -> http://www.makina-corpus.org/blog/howto-install-oracle-11g-ubuntu-linux-1204-precise-pangolin-64bits
[22:37] <invisime> ClientAlive: what happens if you do `echo $ORACLE_HOME`?
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Is the flashplugin-installer broken?
[22:37] <ClientAlive> invisime: except I couldn't find the advanced install and when I had the opportunity I selected "desktop install" in the installer and proceeded that way. I kept the default paths (which were slightly different than on that web page) but was very careful to take that into account as I completed the install.
[22:38] <ClientAlive> invisime: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/dbhome_1
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> It seems to be. Ubuntu yells at me because flashplugin-installer wants additional downloads, then I authenticate and the download fails silently.
[22:39] <bekks> ClientAlive: That path does not follow the OFA.
[22:39] <TuxBlackEdo> does gnome have a support channel?
[22:39] <ClientAlive> invisime: what is OFA?
[22:40] <invisime> ClientAlive: is dbstart in /opt/oracle/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/bin?
[22:40] <bekks> ClientAlive: OFA is the Oracle File Architecture, which should be followed. And dbstart/dbshut is to be found in $ORACLE_HOME/bin/
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> TuxBlackEdo: An unofficial one: #gnome
[22:41] <bekks> ClientAlive: And dbstart does not necessarilly display anything on the screen.
[22:41] <ClientAlive> invisime: ls -al /opt/oracle/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/bin   <- gives -> ls: cannot access /opt/oracle/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/bin: No such file or directory
[22:41] <bekks> ClientAlive: Then you dont have Oracle installed :)
[22:42] <ClientAlive> I don't under4stand. Please let me post a screenshot of what I saw after the install completed
[22:42] <ClientAlive> one moment
[22:42] <bekks> ClientAlive: And btw, from the point of Oracle: Ubuntu is not a supported host OS.
[22:43] <bekks> So far, so good. gn8. :)
[22:43] <ClientAlive> bekks: yes, I understand. I see people succeeding with it though. So I thought I'd give it a try.
[22:44] <emdik> what is the status of open source broadcom wifi drivers in ubuntu 12.10?
[22:44] <bekks> ClientAlive: For a production system, it is pointless. It isnt supported, and basically you are on your own in case of dire need of Oracle support.
[22:44] <emdik> I am debugging some network issues which might be stemming from a wifi driver problem
[22:44] <invisime> is there some way to tell whether a particular process is using pulse or just alsa for its audio?
[22:45] <darkhelmet46> has anyone had any success getting Unity Web Apps to work with Chromium?
[22:45] <Skynetik> xaiy
[22:45] <invisime> I think xbmc is stealing the ability for audio away from everything else on my system.
[22:45] <Skynetik> k2 rulit
[22:45] <emdik> invisime: you can check pavucontrol to get a list of processes using pulseaudio
[22:45] <Skynetik> xeros rulit
[22:46] <invisime> emdik: I don't have a desktop installed. I'm on ubuntu 12.10 minimal with just ssh and xbmc installed.
[22:46] <invisime> hence suspecting that xbmc is grabbing alsa raw.
[22:46] <kostkon> invisime, fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[22:46] <Skynetik> skynet onlyne 246085
[22:46] <ClientAlive> There is this which I thougt indicated a succefull install: http://i.imgur.com/C49Aiez.jpg  <- perhaps I screwed something up on the command line along the way
[22:47] <Skynetik> y
[22:47] <invisime> kostkon: it says the user is the xbmc use and xbmc.bin is listed as the command.
[22:47] <kostkon> invisime, is xbmc supposed to have pulseuadio?
[22:48] <invisime> kostkon: I'd like it to run through pulse audio, yes.
[22:48] <emdik> invisime: I don't know what are the dependencies of xmbc but you might have X installed, so pavucontrol might available; you can also try pacmd, which is a command-line utility
[22:48] <invisime> kostkon: because I'm going to use it to launch other apps which will need audio.
[22:48] <ClientAlive> invisime: emdik: does that not indicate it is installed? or no?
[22:49] <kostkon> invisime, then that process is blocking pulseaudio from accessing your sound card. pulseaudio needs to have exclusive access to your hardware to work
[22:49] <invisime> kostkon: is there any reasonable way to set that up short of reinstalling the whole shebang? :-/
[22:50] <invisime> emdik: pacmd says "No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon." which seems to support what kostkon's saying is happening.
[22:50] <kostkon> invisime, no idea. i dont know the internals of xbmc.
[22:50] <invisime> kostkon: I think it's just starting via an init.d script.
[22:51] <invisime> kostkon: so maybe an initialization ordering problem of some sort?
[22:51] <emdik> ClientAlive: invisime: I checked that xbmc has x11-utils as a dependency so X should be installed
[22:51] <invisime> ClientAlive: I've never installed oracle on linux, so I really have no idea what it's supposed to look like.
[22:52] <invisime> emdik: right, but there's no window manager installed. no desktop.
[22:52] <kostkon> invisime, i think xbmc tries to be all in one solution, including being the sound server for your system?
[22:52] <kostkon> an*
[22:52] <ClientAlive> emdik: as in x window s;ystem?
[22:52] <invisime> kostkon: I'll look into configuring it to sit on top of pulseaudio.
[22:52] <emdik> ClientAlive: yes
[22:52] <kostkon> invisime, or maybe the opposite :P
[22:52] <ClientAlive> emdik: how can I check that?
[22:53] <ClientAlive> I thought I use that
[22:53] <emdik> my question: how can I use the brcmsmac driver on  my laptop?
[22:53] <invisime> kostkon: apparently there's a compile flag that makes xbmc ignore pulseaudio. the version I've got must've had that set. :-/
[22:53] <ClientAlive> emdik: man xorg brings up a man page
[22:54] <kostkon> invisime, haven't you install it from the ppa?
[22:54] <emdik> ClientAlive: the simplest check: try a 'startx' command and see what happens (altough I am not familiar with startx, I use the default Ubuntu login)
[22:55] <invisime> kostkon: no, I used a "configure everything!" script. it's actually led to a very stream-lined experience except for these audio problems when I try to launch zsnes via xbmc. here's the post about it: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=141369
[22:55] <gene__> my lappy is demanding an ipv6 connection where there are none, how to fix please?
[22:55] <kostkon> invisime, oh right
[22:55] <gene__> running 10.04.4 LTS\
[22:56] <emdik> gene__: could you please elaborate?
[22:56] <kostkon> invisime, zsnes uses the libao lib for its audio
[22:56] <ClientAlive> emdik: I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."  <-  so it exists I guess
[22:57] <invisime> kostkon: I can get zsnes to play with sound just fine by using alsa, actually. ...provided I kill xbmc.bin first. XD
[22:57] <kostkon> invisime, :/
[22:57] <invisime> kostkon: exactly.
[22:57] <redheat> hi everyone, hope you all doing great...
[22:58] <redheat> I gotta a question, it's a little bit tricky, hope anyone can just tell me what to do?
[22:58] <emdik> ClientAlive: oh, then it needs a sudo, I guess, so you have X
[22:58] <kostkon> invisime, there is snes9x, although yeah i know it's not as fast as zsnes
[22:59] <invisime> kostkon: still won't work with sound if xbmc has the handle.
[22:59] <ClientAlive> emdik: is it possible the stardb command is located somewhere I wouldn't expect and I can just link to it from /etc/init.d and be ok?
[22:59] <redheat> I already have Ubuntu, 12.10 installed and running smooth as silk, and it's 64 bit edition, and doing great from an external hard drive that is attached 24/7 to my HP touchsmart laptop..
[22:59] <ClientAlive> emdik: I mean if I can find it
[22:59] <invisime> kostkon: I'm looking at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145052/xbmc-passthrough-audio-and-pulse does it look like I'm on the right track?
[22:59] <invisime> redheat: don't ask to ask. just ask. :-)
[22:59] <gene__> My wireless stopped working, reason unk, but plugging in eth0 fails, it only tries for an ipv6 connection, and fails
[23:00] <kostkon> invisime, oh yeah, i can see you have the option to select pulseaudio as the output device. have you tried it?
[23:00] <gene__> this is even with all static commands in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:00] <redheat> now here's the catch, I want to install windows 7 professional, which I have it in ISO formal on my other external harddrive I want to install on my INternal harddrive, which is a brand new one..that I just bought? can linux help me with that.
[23:00] <redheat> invisime..roger that buddy..
[23:01] <emdik> ClientAlive: sorry, my knowledge of xbmc is zero, I only had an educated guess about X
[23:01] <redheat> MY question is how can install windows 7, in an ISO format from the same external harddrive, which has ubuntu on it, to my internal harddrive attached to my laptop..
[23:01] <gene__> Now its plugged straight into a 192.168.xx.xx hub but won't connect, statis or dhcp
[23:01] <redheat> this process is like a breeze under windows OS, but I haven't tried it under Linux
[23:01] <invisime> kostkon: my interface doesn't look exactly like that. I'm going to turn off the custom skin I have installed first. XD
[23:01] <kostkon> invisime, :P
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> gene__: Must hate Cisco routers... e.e
[23:02] <invisime> kostkon: in my defense, aeon nox is really, ridiculously good-looking.
[23:03] <kostkon> invisime, i'm sure :P
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> gene__: Did you reset the router? (Might be a stupid ? but I gotta start somewhere)
[23:03] <redheat> OK let me simplify it like this? and let me put it in the form of question?
[23:04] <redheat> can I make my external harddrive which has Linux installed on it into a live CD?
[23:04] <invisime> kostkon: ok, I've set it to use the default now instead of the usb sound card I'm using (which it was apparently using directly). but it's only letting me pick from two passthroughs: the USB sound card and the internal one.
[23:04] <redheat> I mean I already have ubuntu installed and everything ,but can I make it run like a live cd..
[23:04] <invisime> redheat: are you just trying to boot from your external hard drive?
[23:04] <kostkon> invisime, is there an option to select pulse?
[23:04] <redheat> no, invisime, I
[23:05] <darkhelmet46> redheat, just go to your BIOS and edit your boot device order?
[23:05] <redheat> sorry, typo..just hold on guys, some of my keys are stuck..
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Are you saying you want to run it off your HDD to install it somewhere else?
[23:05] <redheat> again..I'm already booting from external harddrive, and I have Ubuntu installed on it..
[23:05] <gene__> No, router is dd-wrt
[23:06] <redheat> Yes sir, SonikkuAmerica..
[23:06] <redheat> that's right pal..
[23:06] <invisime> kostkon: no, pulse isn't on the list. I've got USB, S/PDIF; USB, Analog; On-board, S/PIDF; On-board, [name of chip]; and Default (USB, Analog)
[23:06] <redheat> I have the Windows ISO on the same external drive as Ubuntu, and I want to install it from that external harddrive unto my internal haddrive..
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I've never heard of anyone trying it...
[23:06] <kostkon> invisime, :/
[23:06] <sayd> can i take a vmdk and write it to a firewire drive to use for booting in osx?
[23:07] <darkhelmet46> redheat, just create a bootable flash drive with the Windows ISO?
[23:07] <kostkon> invisime, is that for the passthrough or the output device?
[23:07] <invisime> kostkon: there's also a "passthrough device", but that's just the S/PDIF on each chip...
[23:07] <redheat> If this external harddrive, was running windows, not ubuntu, this process would have been much easier..I know that for a fact because I tried it before, but this is the first time I do it under linux..no pun intended
[23:07] <invisime> kostkon: that first list was output device.
[23:08] <redheat> darkhelmet46, I don't have a flash drive at the moment, and I need to get that new internal harddrive up and running..
[23:08] <kostkon> invisime, and you have installed pulse and you have rebooted since then
[23:08] <nichos> hi all, i'm trying to get ampache setup with coherene, I'm following this guide: http://coherence.beebits.net/wiki/Ampache can anyone tell me where the CONFIG file is in the examples section?
[23:08] <kostkon> invisime, and ps -A | grep pulse lists pulse as running
[23:08] <redheat> this is one of those emergencies where you have to have to come up with an ansewr to a problem like this..
[23:08] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Do you mean something like this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/165159/Install_Windows_7_From_an_External_Hard_Drive.html
[23:08] <invisime> kostkon: output has been set to USB, S/PIDF and passthrough has been set to the on-board S/PIDF.
[23:09] <invisime> kostkon: I did install and reboot, but pulse isn't running. presumably because xbmc steals the handle first.
[23:09] <kostkon> invisime, y
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Except from Ubuntu instead of Windows, of course...
[23:09] <kostkon> hmm
[23:09] <redheat> Right on the money SonikkuAmerica, only this time do it from LInux
[23:09] <redheat> exactly..
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: It should be.
[23:10] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: What flavor of Ubuntu are you using, Unity or something else?
[23:10] <redheat> I mean the instructions all over the internet, assume you do it from windows to another windows
[23:10] <redheat> Unity,..
[23:10] <malph0s^> I have a question regarding package management, recently a update installed linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic but it hangs on boot due to AMD driver incompatabilities, I would like to remove that package but it depends on package linux-image-generic. Is there a way to downgrade a package without removing the meta package?
[23:10] <kostkon> invisime, but youve said already that you need to recompile it and set a flag
[23:11] <invisime> kostkon: possibly. hopefully not? I didn't compile it myself, so I don't know what flags are on there.
[23:11] <kostkon> invisime, :/
[23:11] <invisime> kostkon: I suppose I could go look through the guy's script. but it was... well, let's just say his bash scripting skills are probably an order of magnitude better than mine.
[23:11] <kostkon> invisime, your only problem currently is with zsnes?
[23:11] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I'm not too sure what's out there for an ISO extractor (Brasero, maybe, but I only thought it worked with burning ISOs to disc), but you may need to search for an ISO extractor that will set your hard drive to boot.
[23:11] <redheat> invisime, darkhelmet46, and SonikkuAmerica, I'm doing this because my laptop doesn't have a harddrive,...
[23:11] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You mean an optical drive, right?
[23:11] <redheat> yeah
[23:12] <redheat> sorry, I meant optical drive :)..
[23:12] <redheat> damn..lol
[23:12] <invisime> SonikkuAmerica: you could try using unetbootin to create a windows install usb stick, maybe.
[23:12] <emdik> how can I change from the proprietary to the open source broadcom wifi driver in ubuntu 12.10?
[23:12] <redheat> invisime, I don't have the usb stick...
[23:12] <invisime> err, redheat rather. use unetbootin, maybe?
[23:12] <somsip> !pastebin
[23:12] <redheat> no problem buddy..,
[23:12] <invisime> redheat: ah. there's your problem right there. buy a usb stick. :-P
[23:13] <redheat> lol...
[23:13] <redheat> I would if I had the time...
[23:13] <redheat> right on the spot installation..and I"m cornered like a mouse..
[23:13] <darkhelmet46> If you had time?  Dude, just go to Amazon.com
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Actually, I did find a way to do it. I assume your disc is at least Windows 7, right?
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> *your ISOP
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> *ISO
[23:14] <redheat> yeah, Windows 7 64 bit, DVD edition..
[23:14] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Good. Open up a terminal and [ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ].
[23:15] <invisime> kostkon: here's the script I used, btw: https://github.com/Bram77/xbmc-ubuntu-minimal/raw/master/12.10/prepare_install_2_6.sh
[23:15] <redheat> I already got it installed..
[23:15] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: For any cmd-line stuff I type you won't need the brackets. Those are just to delineate between cmd-line stuff and -- OK, good.
[23:16] <redheat> the ntfs reading tool right
[23:16] <redheat> yeah..I got it just keep typing..don't mind me..I'm following you
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Now, [ sudo apt-get install gparted gettext make gcc ]
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: And take a mintue to relax while I get a drink.
[23:16] <redheat> I already got gparted installed, or is this something else
[23:17] <redheat> take your time
[23:17] <redheat> I already got GCC
[23:17] <redheat> my Ubuntu is up and dandy...lol
[23:17] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Nope, just those packages thus far.
[23:18] <redheat> roger that..everything is set to go
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Next step: make sure you have everything important off your external HDD, 'cuz we gotta wipe it.
[23:19] <anunnaki> anyone in here from S. Africa?
[23:19] <cordyceps> anybody know how to boot freebsd from grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/1674268/
[23:19] <phunyguy> is there any server monitoring app that is comparable to the Quest monitoring software? I would like to be able to use it for monitoring of a Ubuntu server
[23:19] <redheat> you mean the one I"m installing to, not the one I'm installing from? right?
[23:19] <cordyceps> meant to say /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[23:19] <cordyceps> does not work
[23:19] <redheat> you mean the one I"m installing to, not the one I'm installing from? right? <SonikkuAmerica>
[23:20] <Reggin> I have a bunch of IMA files and I want to rename them to IMG. How do I quickly rename all of them in the terminal?
[23:20] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Right, the one you're using to boot Windows from.
[23:20] <redheat> ok..
[23:20] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Now open GParted...
[23:20] <redheat> for a second there I thought you were asking me to wipe my Ubuntu drive clean out..
[23:20] <redheat> roger that
[23:20] <redheat> open
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: ...select the HDD you're going to use,...
[23:21] <redheat> selected
[23:21] <redheat> it's all clean and it's got a single partition on it..
[23:21] <invisime> ok, kostkon. I've got a crazy idea. I have two sound cards on this machine. only one of them has any output jacks on it (the usb one). can I setup xbmc to only grab a hold of the internal one and then setup pulse/alsa to pipe anything from that one to the USB one, and also set them up so that they send anything to the USB one also still to the USB one? I'm not sure what the technical terms for any of this is, but that seems 
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Check the device name. /dev/sdXX
[23:22] <redheat> it's dev/sda
[23:22] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: It should be formatted as NTFS.
[23:22] <kostkon> invisime, seems too complicated to me
[23:22] <redheat> it is
[23:22] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica roger that
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Open a new terminal (or the same one if it has a $ prompt)
[23:23] <redheat> ok
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: and [ mkdir w7
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> ]
[23:23] <redheat> ok
[23:24] <redheat> roger that..
[23:24] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica roger that
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Next, type [ mount $ISOPATH w7 ], where $ISOPATH is the path to your ISO.
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: ^ and if you don't know what the path is, say "Help!"
[23:26] <redheat> roger that..
[23:26] <jdukiet> I am running a wubi install of ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS and would like to import my music from my windows user account to rythmbox. Somehow I was able to access it with a prior search, but have not been able to reproduce it. LOL
[23:27] <roothorick> what do I install to get meaningful backtraces in Xorg.0.log?
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: So... the next thing to do is as follows:
[23:28] <redheat> ok
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Quit GParted (if you haven't already)
[23:29] <redheat> ok
[23:29] <redheat> done
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[23:30] <Korejora> I can't get my wireless card to work. It doesn't have Linux drivers, so I tried installing the Windows drivers with ndiswrapper. They seem to be installed, but I get an error "couldn't load driver" for them before Ubuntu even starts. Does that mean they're just not compatible?
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Now, back in the terminal, type [ cp -r w7/* /media/$HASH ], where $HASH is the hexadecimal that appears for your HDD. (Say "HELP" if you need help locating it).
[23:31] <histo1> Korejora: What chipset does your network card use?
[23:31] <invisime> kostkon: pulse isn't starting because it's waiting for me to init a desktop through x11. but since I'm not doing that, it doesn't run.
[23:31] <nooob> hi guys..... i installed Ubuntu One and forgot passwrd to my keyring... deleting .local/share/keyrings doesn't work, so doesn't reinstalling UO.... help please!
[23:31] <kostkon> invisime, hmm interesting
[23:31] <redheat> sonikkuAmerica, you still with me?
[23:31] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I'm right here. Problem?
[23:32] <redheat> oh, sorry I missed the first couple of lines..sorry
[23:32] <Korejora> @histo1 - I think Ralink? I don't know how to tell.
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Do you need me to repeat my last stmt?
[23:32] <redheat> sorry..
[23:32] <danktamagachi> does anybody know what the following line does in .gtkrc-2.0
[23:32] <danktamagachi> include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkr
[23:32] <histo> Korejora: lspci    will show you
[23:32] <danktamagachi> include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
[23:33] <histo> Korejora: unless it's a usb dongle
[23:33] <ecips> Hi folks - I'm having problems playing back media files today for some reason. Something goes wrong and I lose audio, and files stall and wont play. I am running raring. Is anyone aware of anything that is broken?
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> danktamagachi: Are you using Kubuntu?
[23:33] <invisime> kostkon: ok, I've put /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 in an .xinitrc. I think that'll start it up right before xbmc starts.
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ecips: Ask that in #ubuntu+1, not here.
[23:33] <histo> !raring | ecips
[23:33] <redheat> no just the part where I get to use the Hash for my HDD how do I located it..you said I should type help..you mean here in xchat terminal in my CL terminal?
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[23:33] <kostkon> invisime, nice
[23:33] <FloodBot1> Skynetik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> It's a Skynet!
[23:34] <histo> lol
[23:34] <redheat> wait I will call the Governator...
[23:34]  * histo Where's john conner
[23:34] <redheat> lol..
[23:34] <redheat> good histo..
[23:34] <Korejora> @histo:  03:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 5392
[23:34] <redheat> good one
[23:35] <redheat> wow..they still use Ralink in Skynet...Dawm...
[23:35] <ecips> #ubuntu+1 is as dead as a doornail
[23:35] <invisime> here's a translation of what it said in case anyone's curious: http://pastebin.com/NkgUBS6g
[23:35] <invisime> kostkon: damn. that didn't work.
[23:36] <redheat> HELP
[23:36] <kostkon> invisime, :/
[23:36] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Finding the hash:
[23:36] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Open Nautilus (the file manager) for me.
[23:36] <invisime> nor does just calling start-pulseaudio-x11 work from ssh while xbmc is running.
[23:36] <redheat> ok
[23:36] <redheat> opened
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Now, on the left should be a list of devices, notated "XXX GB Filesystem"
[23:37] <redheat>  SonikkuAmerica opened
[23:37] <histo> Korejora: Are you sure that adapter doesn't work with linux?
[23:37] <redheat> yeah, the internal harddrive is labelled 320 GB volume
[23:37] <danktamagachi> SonikkuAmerica: not using Kubuntu now but it is installed... it creates a unmber of warnings when various apps are opened within GNOME, so I deleted it. Just wondering what exactly, it does.
[23:37] <redheat> yeah, the internal harddrive is labelled 320 GB volume SonikkuAmerica
[23:38] <Korejora> @histo: I don't know. I tried installing a Linux driver (for a different device) and I got it to work temporarily, but then it started freezing whenever it would connect to a network, so I uninstalled it.
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Open it.
[23:38] <ecips> hmmm, so #ubuntu+1 is completely dead - where else can I go for help??
[23:38] <Korejora> @histo: There doesn't seem to be a Linux driver for this specific device.
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> ecips: I just answered you in there.
[23:38] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, I did  a right click on it, properties and I got this name 6B402F546AADF14F
[23:38] <redheat> could that be it?
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: That is the $HASH.
[23:40] <histo> Korejora: it should be the 5390 series. I beleive if it dosn't work out of the box. It should pull the driver from additional drivers dialog.  Let me do some digging.
[23:41] <histo> Korejora: What version of ubuntu are you running
[23:41] <Korejora> @histo: 12.10
[23:42] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, it gave me "cannot stat w7 : no such command or directory..
[23:42] <redheat> what went wrong that how I wrote it: cp -r w7/* /media/$HASH
[23:43] <redheat> what went wrong that how I wrote it: cp -r w7/* /media/6B402F546AADF14F
[23:43] <redheat> sorry..
[23:43] <histo> Korejora: Did you check additional drivers?
[23:44] <redheat> HELP
[23:44] <emdik> hello
[23:45] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: No prob... let me check...
[23:45] <Korejora> @histo: What do you mean by additional drivers? Nothing shows up when I search that.
[23:45] <redheat> take your time..
[23:45] <histo> jokey-gtk
[23:45] <histo> Korejora: ^^^
[23:46] <elky> redheat, when you do "ls" does "w7" show up?
[23:46] <redheat> ok yes elky it does
[23:47] <redheat> thanks for joining taking the load off SonikkuAmerica shoulders, I've been bugging him with my question all day long..:)
[23:47] <Korejora> @histo: jockey-gtk not installed. jockey-kde worked, for some reason, but it only has drivers for my video card.
[23:47] <elky> redheat, have you moved directory since you tried the command?
[23:47] <redheat> nope...
[23:47] <histo> Korejora: http://www.mediatek.com/_en/07_downloads/01-1_windowsDetail.php?sn=5001  Is the website with drivers for your card
[23:47] <redheat> it's there since it was created elky
[23:47] <histo> Korejora: I thought that chipset worked out of the box but aparently not
[23:49] <redheat> can I ask a question, how about if I moved using the mouse, or do you want it in privliged or heightened status, as in through sudo or root
[23:49] <emdik> it seems that my network problems are finally solved and I want to thank the people here who helped me
[23:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | redheat
[23:50] <stududefmf> How would I connect to a different server? /connect ?
[23:50] <redheat> ok..sorry about that..
[23:50] <Korejora> @histo: I tried downloading that before, but it says "archive type not supported".
[23:50] <redheat> I think I'll stick with ! patience...
[23:52] <darkhelmet46> stududefmf, /server
[23:52] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, I already have root account enabled, I can logoff, and logon again, put the w7 directory in the core of that internal harddrive, no need to use CL if it s causing that much trouble..how about that..
[23:52] <iceroot> i have 270MByte/s on a Raid10 Array and 42MByte/s on a LUKS Partition on this array. is there such a big difference in the hdd-performance when using encryption? or is my configuration bad?
[23:53] <phong_> happy new year everyone
[23:53] <Snowie> anyone have advice on Plex under Ubuntu? I have had it installed previously, but now for some reason it installs as root user without access to my media. What's the best way forward. Dont really want to have to mess with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/150909/plex-wont-enter-my-home-directory-or-other-partitions
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: There's a problem with that.
[23:54] <redheat> what?
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You need a Windows MBR (master boot record) in order to boot from it.
[23:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Everyone, is GRUB an acceptable alternative to a Windows MBR if Windows is dumped from an ISO to an HDD for the purpose of installing?
[23:55] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: what???
[23:56] <redheat> ikonia, you heard the man ikonia...answer..or I'll kill you..lol
[23:56] <redheat> lol
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Threats are not allowed in *buntu channels.
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Even if you are joking.
[23:56] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: can you try to rephrase the question please ?
[23:56] <phunyguy> how do I add hard-mounted cifs shares to the shortcuts area of nautilus?  I have shares mounted with autofs that don't show up there....
[23:56] <redheat> roger that..I'm so sorry, ikonia, terribly sorry
[23:57] <ikonia> redheat: don't worry
[23:57] <ssorg> I don't have a major (AMD/NVIDIA) video card in my system, how would I figure out what driver I need, and how could I update it?
[23:57] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: redheat is trying to create a bootable external HDD for Windows 7 from Ubuntu. The instructions I'm using tell me he would need to compile ms-sys from source to create a Windows MBR so that the install media would boot. Can he use GRUB2 instead?
[23:58] <k1l> ssorg: so its a intel video card? there are drivers in the kernel, they dont need  to be updated.
[23:58] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: there are windows tools to create bootable media
[23:59] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: from ubuntu - you could use grub.....but I'd always suggest using the official tools if they are available
[23:59] <ikonia> such as the windows tools
[23:59] <roothorick> instead of writing it all out again I'll just link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257528/xorg-segfault-then-gnome-goes-to-china