[02:10] I'm about to test out xubuntu on a Dell m140 laptop. Anyone already tried that? [02:11] zeroth_: ive tried it on a lot of dell laptops [02:12] how is the performance from your experience? [02:12] zeroth_: depends on the machine, and sometimes the hardware support [02:13] yeah, I'll just try her out and see. I'm officially all linux in the house now. Scary feeling [02:13] scary? [02:13] im always terrified the other way around ;) [02:14] ha ha [02:14] I still have xp running in virtualbox...Just in case I need something [02:14] i have it to.. in case someone else needs something [02:15] I did use turbotax in it. [02:16] I don't see any real reason to stay on windows. I put windows 8 on my girls laptop and it sucked balls. I stuck vector linux on it and it runs like a dream. [02:16] windows is good for games hat dont run in win [02:16] lin* [02:17] hello im trying to connect my netbook to my tv via HDMI and im not getting any external display options [02:17] have you installed the propreitary driver? [02:17] well, to be fair, windows is the only choice for software that is made to run in windows only [02:17] timmm, with xrandr ? [02:18] yeah, photoshop... [02:18] bazhang: xrandr? [02:18] my HDMI doesnt work any more cuz AMD calls the HD 4xxx series leagcy [02:18] !xrandr | timmm [02:18] timmm: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [02:18] sSs: you can usually add that back in easily, if support use to be there [02:19] how [02:19] sSs: depends [02:19] sSs: i would look for a kernel module, or a backport [02:19] it worked prior to v. 12 [02:20] or just run the earlier ubuntu that supports the device [02:20] bazhang: thats way over my head. Hell it took me over 4 hours to install Xububuntu [02:20] timmm: do you have VGA? [02:20] timmm: sometimes, hdmi just doensnt work.. and its not trivial [02:21] i would just take your time [02:21] timmm, install arandr if you need a gui [02:21] think about how long you used windows before you every configured and HDMI out [02:21] !info arandr | timmm [02:21] ill try the gui [02:21] timmm: arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.6-1 (quantal), package size 62 kB, installed size 456 kB [02:21] also, arandr is quite simple. and clean [02:21] apt-get arandr? [02:22] if its an nvidia card, then nvidia-settings should have something for that [02:22] its intel built in grpahics [02:22] i have an hdmi port on the side of this machine.. i have never even tried it [02:23] timmm: " sudo apt-get install arandr " [02:23] or you can use software center if you like GUI more [02:23] wait I already have it. [02:23] but not getting anyother options then default [02:24] hang on a sec ill try vga [02:24] select outputs [02:27] Nothing for vga [02:28] torax: [02:29] there's no other outputs? [02:29] nope [02:30] run " xrandr |pastebinit " and paste the link [02:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668398/ [02:31] torax^ [02:31] hmm [02:32] run lspci |pastebinit [02:33] torax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1668424/ [02:34] I've just found out (a bit late :) ) that there are no alternate installtion CDs anymore. I was using them to create unattended installations on XUbuntu and my own software. What should I use now ? [02:34] i think you can download the iso [02:35] Kovica: then just burn it to a disk [02:35] timmm: what is the model of your laptop? [02:36] acer apire one. torax [02:42] timmm: hard to say why it is not working. Only thing that comes to my mind is that hdmi would be disabled from BIOS [02:43] Torax: im on vga right now. [02:44] and HDMI ran from windows [02:46] for some odd reason HDMI connection is just not recognized by xubuntu [02:47] Torax im on vga right now and getting the same thing [02:48] I'm afraid I cant help you with this, sorry [02:49] i dont see hdmi on my outputs either [02:49] i have never even tried it [02:49] i use the VGA output [02:50] is there at least some where I can go to get more help? [02:50] Im on the forums searching but nothing so far [02:51] you could try post your problem to ubuntuforums.org [02:53] well, ideally, the vendor would provide you support, but that is not likely to happen [02:53] it seams the "xrandr: failed to get size of gamma for output default" is a coomon issue [02:54] common* [02:54] what do i do? i usuallly try live CDs.. i try different kernels and drivers [02:54] if you are not trying he proprietary drivers (assuming there are some ) try them [02:58] im downloading some cedar trials drivers now holstein [02:59] !ati [02:59] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [02:59] ^^ thats usually where i look... [02:59] i looked in the additon drivers under settings [02:59] and Im running intel [03:00] timmm: intel doesnt need/have them [03:00] timmm: i sometimes try other kernels.. live CD's are an easy way to do that [03:00] to be more precise, i just use the VGA output [03:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI [03:17] Holstien I got a big problem [03:18] I got a boot issue caused by the drivers [03:19] Frig of all times to not have a backup... [03:19] Holstein [03:23] timmaa: you should be able to enter the recovery console [03:23] there should be no drivers [03:23] timmaa: the intel drivers are just included by default [03:24] timmaa: intel doesnt need/have them [03:24] i have a bad target number [03:24] Thats the issue i get [03:24] hello [03:24] I believe I was hacked while at public wifi [03:25] running default xubuntu/apache2 setup with the cgi-bin/dwww perl scripts [03:25] i did not turn on ufw [03:25] why run apache on a desktop box on public wifi? [03:26] spaesani: why do you think you have been hacked? [03:26] @holstein: I use the server as a local server for testing sites and server side php, python etc.. [03:26] @torax: my default localechanged to chinese while I was doing some other work. [03:27] might want to consider isolating that.. like a turnkey linux live CD in virtualbox [03:27] with ufw I'll deny all ip except the local loop back [03:27] really, if someone is good, you wont know you have been compromised, unless you have something to compare that is pre-hacked [03:28] so, if you think you have been, then you have to act as if you have been.. and if you dont know what, you have to assume everything [03:28] and learn from it.. just use something like virtualbox to test in [03:28] or you can make apache accessible from localhost only [03:29] one simple security trick is to just not have things running that you dont need running.. [03:29] yup.. localhost is all you need that on for testing [03:29] 4 chinese guys sitting at another table. the area is public building that was bought by a university to use in part as a campus for mostly math and computer science [03:29] my own fault [03:30] Holstein im still getting a bad target number issue [03:30] I'm just wondering if there are known weaknesses with the default cgi-dwww perl scripts or if I should be looking more at apache itself [03:30] well, fault doesnt matter. just being secure in the future and learning from it is important [03:30] timmaa: i would try the recovery console [03:30] spaesani: running services open like that without a firewall is a risk [03:31] spaesani: they are their own known weaknesses [03:31] #holstein, I know (now more so :)) [03:31] How do I acsess that Holstein [03:31] timmaa: at boot.. the recovery kernel [03:31] should be before you are seeing that error [03:32] "they are their own known weaknesses". That's deep. [03:32] spaesani: well even if you find some backdoor or similiar you can never be sure that its the only one. [03:32] i have GRUB should i start xubuntu is recovery mode? [03:33] @torax you're right. again I'm wondering if anyone has heard of anything regarding cgi-bi/dwww [03:34] like known exploits [03:34] spaesani: well you can search metasploit exploit database [03:34] Holstiein im in root shell propmt recovery what do i need to do [03:35] timmaa: if you just type "hol" and hit tab, it will auto complete my nick [03:35] Not on my phone [03:35] timmaa: i would just fix whatever you broke earlier [03:36] timmaa: works for me on my phone [03:36] spaesani: and if you want to analyze the possibly compromised computer, take a disk image with dd then use sleuthkit to analyze it [03:36] of course you should not be using computer that has possible backdoors etc :) [03:37] I dont know what i messes up holstein [03:37] or if you want to analyze it [03:37] Messed up [03:37] timmaa: i usually start simple.. sudo apt-get update [03:37] look for errors.. think about what you did and undo it [03:37] google the exact error, or drop it here [03:40] Heres what im going to do im going to go on windows and create a new live key then i will take a backup of the programs/files and reinstall [03:41] I know ive got a xubuntu iso around here some where... [03:42] @torax found it [03:42] info2www [03:42] A security flaw that lets us execute arbitrary commands with the privileges of the http daemon. (Usually root or nobody). [03:42] https://www.hellboundhackers.org/articles/7-complete-set-of-cgi-bin-exploits-and-what-they-do.html [03:42] that's how they did it. a known exploit [03:42] not so good after all for university students :) [03:43] well, I would not hack anyone in school, gets you kicked out pretty fast [03:43] Exploit Example: http://www.thesite.com/cgi-bin/info2www [03:44] You ar right. I've been to the university classes and got some names off the seating list etc.. [03:44] well, none of that matters though spaesani .. if you "think" you got hacked, and you cant prove anything or find anything, then you have to assume that *everything* was compromised [03:45] @holstein: ur right. I'll have to clean it all out [03:45] restore from backup you know that is not compromised [03:45] @holstein not really "thinking" just reading a lot of chinese :) [03:45] not really.. whats "dirty"? you can compare with something that was not compromised, but if you dont have that, then you have to reinstall [03:47] the default locale is set by a root owned file. I had to set it back to english. [03:47] I can't say what else if anything else was done. [03:48] I'll reinstall [03:49] Is there an Xubuntu forum or site where I can post the weakness and known exploit? [03:49] Since it's from a default installed perl script? [04:05] found it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [04:05] there's a check box for security related bugs [04:05] that hellboundhackers cgi exploits are almost 10 years old [04:06] Thanks holstein, torax and co. [04:06] no problem [04:06] @torax [04:06] can test it again... [04:06] I'll have a look at the script. [04:14] Frigg cant find my usb key [04:15] Stuck on windows for the night :( [04:17] not so simple unless one is a perl expert, which I'm not. [04:17] I'm looking to contact someone at the hellbound hacker site.. [04:33] hmm, this site has a conflicting version of an info2www exploit, one where the victim is the visitor:http://www.secuobs.com/plugs/18086.shtml [04:36] that only enabled cross-site scripting [04:38] i'm on xubuntu 12.10 and uname -a says 3.7.0-7 generic, but i'm on xubuntu with xorg-edgers so my kernel should be 3.8 anything i can check to find out why my kernel is not updating? [04:43] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/quantal/main/base/linux-meta [04:52] a5m0: so the latest kernel in xorg-edgers ppa is 3.7.0-7 [04:58] I can't locate anything root access related asides from hellboundhackers claims. I've requested more info from Mr.Cheese (the site owner). I'll take toarx's advice and dd an image beore reinstalling so I can have a look with sleuthkit, someday... :) === nuclear is now known as Guest34864 [06:02] quit [06:02] exit === gary is now known as Guest87219 [07:12] I dist-upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04.4 to Xubuntu 12.04.2. Now there appears at the beginning a broken Gnome Do program window. It does not react when clicking on the input button . Is this a known bug? [08:24] Terminal command to update libreoffice please [08:26] donnie: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' updates your programs, including Libre Office if it's installed; however, if you wish to have LibreOffice 4.0 it's not in xubuntu repositories yet and you have to do it some other way [08:27] laite: I just need something higher than 3.4.4 it keeps crashing [08:27] However I am running those commands [08:27] y [08:28] latest update for me was 3.6.2.2 is yours not updating? [08:28] I too have 3.6.2.2 (xubuntu 12.10) [08:29] Hi people! [08:29] I just haven't run those upgrade commands in a while :) [08:29] Is there a way to make gthumb keep it's window size? [08:39] Nope. still 3.4.4 [08:40] do you mean the kernel? [08:41] I tried to install 12.10 and my pc overheated [08:41] from a linux [08:41] never happened before [08:41] everything gets f*cked up these days [08:41] donnie: what version of xubuntu do you have [08:42] ...umm. Forgot. command please [08:43] uname -whatever [08:43] I zthink [08:43] -z [08:44] uname -r [08:44] donnie: lsb_release -a [08:45] 11.10 [08:46] donnie: ok! It's somewhat old version, support for it ends in April 2013 [08:46] You can either add PPA for recent LibreOffice or upgrade to newer Xubuntu [08:46] donnie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice [08:46] I like 11.10 :) How do I do the ppa upgrade for it? [08:47] you should be able to follow instructions for 'Ubuntu 10.04 LTS' on ^ site [08:50] followed... now to see [08:52] donnie: since you have it already installed, you need to once more 'sudo apt-get upgrade' after completing the three steps [08:54] laite: it still says 3.4.4 and it still crashes when I try and add a 'footer' [08:54] did you 'upgrade' from terminal [08:55] see my previous command [08:55] Yes [08:55] hm [08:57] did you notice that it was downloaded/updated in terminal? did anything happen with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' [08:57] It's also possible that 3.4.4. is still running in the memory and you need to log out and back in [08:57] I saw that it was listed yeah. and that's why I'm confused too cause it's not 'updated'... it's still at 3.4.4 [08:58] 'listed' as in: 'something was downloaded and upgraded' ? :P [08:58] also, notice that 'apt-get update' is not same as 'apt-get upgrade' (just to make sure :) [08:59] I did them both as you listed it [08:59] I'd 'kill' the tasks in the task manager but it's annoying and it keeps bouncing around [09:00] so... I'll just restart and come back [09:07] I run sudo apt-get upgrade again. I get "the following packages have been kept back" and it lists the libreoffice [09:09] donnie: ah, you must 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' [09:09] sorry, didn't realize [09:09] But I wanna keep 11.10 [09:09] don't worry, that won't change it :) [09:09] ... you sure? [09:10] * laite looks for a reference [09:12] donnie: see first answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade [09:12] or look at the man pages yourself :P [09:12] I'm doing it. I saw that all it does is runs through my current distro, and updates tings to the latest :) [09:12] yep [09:13] it also updates kernel, so you need to reboot after that [09:13] Will do :) Now I'm gona let it do it's thing.. then see if things work a bit more smoothly [09:16] Anyone here a Battlefield 3 player on the PS3 in Europe? About to go smash a few rounds out if anyone wants to join me. [09:16] Oops. [09:16] Meant to put that in offtopic. [09:57] I dist-upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04.4 to Xubuntu 12.04.2. Now there appears at the beginning a broken Gnome Do program window. It does not react when clicking on the input button . Is this a known bug? [10:03] hi [10:03] anyone, youtube videos has yellow dots... [10:04] any ideas? dell inspiron 1525, intel core 2... [10:45] hello all! [10:48] bullgard4: I'm not sure if it helps, bu you could try removing and reinstalling it [10:49] I have installed xubuntu 12.04 to the old notebook, but it works too slowly, making too many requests to HDD, probabbly swap. How to check if my xubuntu properly configured to work with HDD and RAM? [10:52] xubuntu884: you can install program 'iotop' to monitor what processes use disk i/o [11:50] laite: I can see GNOME-Do errors in ~/.xsesssion-errors. -- What do you mean by "removing it" precisely? [11:55] bullgard4: basically what I had in mind is just 'sudo apt-get install gnome-do --reinstall' [11:55] but as I said, no idea if that really helps anything === _religion is now known as religion [12:04] laite: Your recipe did not help. The bug persists. [12:12] laite: Do you use Xubuntu 12.04.2? Does your ~/.xsession-errors show a time stamp at the beginning? [12:13] bullgard4: I'm using 12.10 and no, there seems to be no timestamp in .xsession-errors [12:14] laite: Thank you very much for your information. [12:52] Question: How do I get rid of the icons on the desktop for Home and trash? [12:53] jeffrey1, right-click desktop, go to desktop settings and tab icons [12:53] Nice, thanks knome [12:54] I thought it was odd I couldn't highlight and delete [12:54] Ok next up, how do I make Super-D show the desktop? [13:00] jeffrey1: in settings manager -> window manager -> keyboard [13:00] you can set custom shortcut for 'show desktop' [13:04] Nice, thank you laite [13:05] Ok here's a harder one. [13:05] Is there a way to increase the number of pixels on the edge of a window that bring up the arrow to increase the length/width of that window? [13:05] jeffrey1: use a different window manager theme [13:06] Nice, thank you sheep [13:06] jeffrey1: you can also hold down alt+shift to resize the window by clicking anywhere in it [13:06] jeffrey1: that is so frequently asked, that it has its own FAQ: http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ [13:07] hope this helps :) [13:07] ah, it's not alt+shift but alt+right click [13:07] sorry [13:39] test [13:41] Someone know how to get the internal mic to work with xubuntu and Acer aspire one 110 ? And both card readers ? [13:45] hola [13:45] alguien me puede ayudar? [13:45] necesito instalar mi tarjeta grafica que es una Ati radeon mobility x1300 [13:45] no encuntro el software [13:45] muchas gracias [13:48] !es | ajrock [13:48] ajrock: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [13:57] how can i set the Xubuntu desktop color depth to 24 bit or 16 bit? === emma is now known as em [14:44] Hi everyone [14:45] Would there be anyone to help me ? [14:46] d4ph0d: ask the question and let see [14:47] i want to setup a ftp server, but i'm unsure how to. i've installed Openssh server , but i'm stuck at that point as it does not come up in my program list [14:48] not to mention i have a total linux experience of about 12h max. [14:48] :/ [14:49] i have googled quite a bit about the subject but they do not explain how to access it afterwards. [14:49] no worries [14:51] when you installed openssh server you installed a daemon, and it runs in background. In fact it is running as we speak. You can access your openssh server by " ssh username@ip.addres " in terminal [14:52] you can also do " ssh username@localhost " that will connect to the machine you are currently on [14:53] May I ask what for do you want to run FTP? [14:53] ok, prompt me to connect and yes [14:54] so i can access my files on my server from my windows pc/phone or android. without the need of a VNC [14:55] Ok, just a second I have a solution for you [14:57] ok, now that you have openssh server installed you can acces your files via secure file transfer, sftp. you can use filezilla in windows and linux machines, and i bet theres a client for android also [14:58] you can try it out by installing filezilla from software center and connecting to your ip address or localhost give username and password and set port to 22 [15:00] so it will only work if i put it the username and passwd from the machine where the ftp is running [15:01] you can acces it anywhere, with your username and password you have set to that machine [15:02] the sftp is bit like ftp but way more secure [15:03] Phew. that makes a lot more sense now, Thank you very much. [15:04] I have been way too used to play around with teamviewer and such where you setup users to access your machine, as opposite as to setup machine to accept users. [15:05] d4ph0d: you're welcome :) first steps in linux might be a bit confusing but after a while it makes sense, and after that you wonder how you could ever use windows =D [15:05] ahah yes i guess so. [15:07] can i access it from any browser or do i need a ftp client to access the server [15:07] you will need sftp client. Filezilla has windows version also [15:08] thank you again [15:08] theres also numerous sftp clients for android [15:08] turboclient seems to be popular [15:08] any recommendation for windows 8 phone ? :o [15:08] Hi! I am searching for a feature like Unity and Cinnamon have: By pressing the super-key, you can enter the applications-name and it shows a list of results (not like Alt-F2). Since Unity isn't working in my machine and cinnamon is not my first choice, I want to add this feature in XFCE - do you know any hint? [15:09] d4ph0d: sorry, I dont have any windows devices =P [15:09] i would have thought as such . ;] [15:09] JackBauer: there's a panel applet that finds and application given its name [15:10] JackBauer: There is such a thing, but I have no idea what it was called. A friend of mine used one [15:18] g16: torax: it's not exactly what I searched, but by pressing Super-R or Alt-F3 a window appears, which nearly does what I searched. [15:19] JackBauer: the one my friend used was like a single line box that tried suggesting what you want to run when you typed something [15:20] ill try to google that [15:20] JackBauer: yea, it's called xfce4-appfinder, also available in the Applications menu [15:21] torax: That would be nice, I found this xfce4-appfinder, too, which is what I just said. [15:30] i need to have two separated xservers for each monitor, the shared desktop its just buggy [15:31] programs opening on the other desktop, windows buttons not showing open programs, html5 fullscreen thinking i have a 3000px wide monitor so showing really small video [15:31] jeez [15:32] i know [15:32] i had it like that before [15:48] @ torax . when i try to connect from my other devices it says ssh_init Host does not exist, but i enter the same credentials as when i tested on the machine that runs the server. is there anything im doing wrong [15:50] d4ph0d: go to your linux machine and run ifconfig |grep "inet addr" [15:53] ok [15:53] and paste the output here :P [15:53] root@d4Server:/home/d4ph0d# ifconfig |grep "inet addr" [15:53] inet addr:10.0.0.11 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [15:53] inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 [15:55] Ok, so you can access your linux computer from the same local network with ip 10.0.0.11, if you want to acces it outside from your local network you have to do port forwarding from the NAT device, adsl modem or whatever you are using [15:56] but from the local network it should work with that ip [15:56] remember to tell the client to use port 22 [15:58] so if i want to access from outside of my home network. i have to forward port 22 ? from my router setting ? what do i put as host when i want to login > my ip ? [15:58] i feel like a noob :( [15:58] not just a feeling! [15:59] :P haha, ok so if you want to acces your machine from outside you have to set your router to forward all traffic that comes to port 22 to your linux machine 10.0.0.11 port 22 [16:00] and then you have to check your external IP, for example from http://www.whatismyip.com/ [16:00] yep [16:01] and if you dont have a lot of files to share you may want to use some cloud service, for example ubuntu one [16:16] how do i do a LD_PRELOAD permanent? [16:16] put it in .bashrc? [16:17] mmmm [16:17] yea, i have no idea what ld_preload is :D [16:18] neither do i [16:18] but i found one that fixes flash in fullscreen [16:18] so i need it [16:18] it works? [16:27] im checking, i need to make an export for it not an env :P [16:28] brb restarting [16:33] nope [16:40] well i made the modification to the launcher [16:42] Thank you Torax for your help , i really appreciate. i was able to sort this mess out , ahah. see ya ! [17:13] hi [17:47] !hi | neonmagnets [17:47] neonmagnets: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [17:48] oh hi [17:48] P: [17:48] I've been experiencing problems while dismounting my e-reader [17:48] Everything freezes and I have to do a forced reboot [17:48] !problems [17:48] thats bad [17:49] what kind of e-reader [17:49] nook [17:49] how do you umount it? [17:49] the filesystem button [17:49] ok [17:49] is it connected now? [17:49] no [17:50] It's a new problem [17:50] please connect it and paste the relevant results of lsusb [17:50] you could pastebin the whole lsusb output if you dont know wich ones are relevant [17:50] !pastebin [17:50] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:51] Bus 001 Device 003: ID 2080:0003 Barnes & Noble [17:52] I had to go get it [17:53] what are you looking to get from that? [17:53] google hints [17:54] ok [17:55] I found some people experiencing similar things when unmounting external drives, but no fixes [17:56] neonmagnets, did it happened before? [17:56] yes [17:57] you said its a new problem [17:57] yes [17:57] since when its new, what changed? [17:57] did you installed updates? [17:57] I mean, it didn't happen when [17:57] i did it earlier, way earlier [17:57]