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bacmorning euro friends12:20
bachi rogpeppe, would you have time to chat with me a little later?  i've got questions about the code organization and would like a bit of a walk through.12:21
rogpeppebac: definitely. give us a ping whenever you like12:21
rogpeppebac: we've got a meeting at 1500 UTC but that's all12:21
bacrogpeppe: ok.  will you be breaking for lunch soon?  perhaps after that.12:22
bacwould give me time to collect my wits12:22
rogpeppebac: ok12:22
frankbanbac: morning, we have the usual problem: http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/juju-ui/assets/config.js12:59
bacfrankban: ok, i'll fix it12:59
frankbanbac: thanks12:59
bacfrankban: should be happy now13:03
bacchanges to config files *really* need to be QA'd b/c they will always break13:04
bacfrankban: which is exactly what you did!  :)13:05
rogpeppepwd13:14
bacrogpeppe: i'd like to chat whenever you have time.13:39
rogpeppebac: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/3800a86edfc819420b2e9db27716e96b94774682?authuser=0&hl=en-GB13:39
rogpeppebac: is that link working for you?13:44
hazmatbac, ping13:46
hatchgood morning14:11
bachazmat: ping14:35
bacrogpeppe: sorry, i didn't get the alert14:35
rogpeppebac: can't you join the hangout?14:36
gary_posterfrankban, teknico, bcsaller_ hatch please put your travel details on this page once you have them (and if you don't have tickets already, please get them today!)14:41
gary_posterhttps://wiki.canonical.com/CDO/Sprints/JujuEcosystemSprintMarch1314:41
* gary_poster not really here14:41
hatchyep Ill call this morning - although I think it's a holiday in US and Canada today14:42
teknicogary_poster not really here, travel agency reply in right now :-)14:42
gary_posterteknico, :-) cool thanks14:42
hatchI'm assuming there will be no standup this am?14:45
gary_posterhatch usually there is, I think/hope ;-).  People will mutter about it as the time approaches, I suspect.14:46
hatchsounds like a plan - I've almost caught up with all the emails and now trying to follow the namespace routing thread14:47
* gary_poster disappears. ttyl14:49
hatchcya14:49
bcsaller_gary_poster: travel plans should be on the last email iteration now, I'll post when I have confirmation14:51
hatchjujugui anyone have anything to chat about in the call in 3?15:27
bacnot really15:27
teknicohatch, not really, no15:27
hazmatcool, let's pass then, we're down half15:27
bacsounds good15:28
bacteknico: can you paste something funny/lighthearted here so we don't miss out?15:28
teknicobac, :-D15:28
goodspudIs fine with me15:30
teknicobac, not very funny but true: on the Montreal sprint frankban and I managed to slash 3K€ from the travel prices BTS (the European travel agency) originally proposed15:31
teknicothis time it looks like we're not going to save more than 1K15:31
bacwow, that's some slashing!  did you do it by booking directly?15:32
hatchhah that's still pretty substancial15:32
hazmatjujugui speaking of travel don't forget to book your travel15:33
teknicobac, no, I just double-checked their proposals, and bothered them enough :-)15:34
hatchjust to confirm when we say 4-8 that's the landed days? so we fly in 3rd and leave the 9th?15:58
frankbanhatch: I think so.16:12
hatchgoogle flights are too cool, they even tell you when your flights include wifi16:16
hatchor have it available16:16
hatchif you haven't seen it yet http://www.google.com/flights16:18
frankbanrogpeppe: hi, how to deploy a local charm with juju-core? using --repository and local:charm-name I get this error: error: cannot get latest charm revision: no charms found matching "local:precise/juju-gui"16:40
rogpeppefrankban: hmm, it *should* work16:43
rogpeppefrankban: what does your charm dir structure look like?16:44
frankbanrogpeppe: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1677738/16:46
rogpeppefrankban: it may be we have a problem with the symlinks16:49
rogpeppefrankban: could you try it with a dir structure with no symlinks?16:49
frankbanrogpeppe: sure16:50
teknicohatch, thanks, but: "Sorry, flights from Italy are not currently supported."16:52
hatchaww darn!16:52
teknicouhm, it supports flights *to* italy though16:52
frankbanrogpeppe: without symlinks it works, thanks.17:04
rogpeppefrankban: ok, cool. does the symlink version work with python juju?17:05
frankbanrogpeppe: yes, it does17:05
rogpeppefrankban: probably worth raising a bug then17:06
hatchguihelp - anyone around that can explain to me the usecase behind this namespace routing before I submit my comments on the merge?17:06
frankbanrogpeppe: yes, I'll do it.17:06
bcsaller_hatch: yeah, want to talk about it17:06
hatchyeah meet in the boardroom?17:07
bcsaller_hatch: in hangout17:07
hatchoh cool you can get a dell xps 13 with ubuntu now17:25
hatchthe best part about it is that you can get it in a higher resolution display than the windows version17:27
frankbanrogpeppe: filed bug 112931917:43
_mup_Bug #1129319: Local charm deployment not working if symlinks are used <juju-core:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129319 >17:43
rogpeppefrankban: thanks a lot17:44
=== imbrando1 is now known as imbrandon
rogpeppehere's a dilemma: is it ethical to ask the company to pay 400 quid more for a flight so that i can get 4 hours sleep rather than none... ?18:34
hatchare you worth 400 quid more after 4h sleep?18:35
hatch;)18:35
rogpeppehatch: probably :-)18:35
rogpeppehatch: not to mention the greater likelihood of me missing a connection18:35
hatchhah, ok my verdict is that, ethically, it's ok to ask ;)18:42
hatchthis is comign from the guy who started last week...so my word might be worth nothing haha18:43
rogpeppehatch: :-)18:51
hatchhow does the per diem usually work? Do I need to get a company CC or do I just put it on my own then expense them?18:54
hazmathatch, own and expense18:56
hazmathatch, breakfast and lunch provided typically, so its just dinner 18:56
hazmattypically one at least one team diner18:56
hatchsounds good to me18:56
hatchbcsaller_: if we do plan on releasing this router code back to YUI it will need almost a complete rewrite to be accepted as it needs to follow the YUI code structure and functional back to IE618:59
hatchbe functional*19:00
hatchI can make a note in the code review if you feel that's important19:01
hazmathatch, ie6... i thought yui gave up on that19:06
hazmatif not then.. perhaps the case should be made.19:06
hatchnegative - they just restructured the 'Graded Browser Support'19:06
hatchyahoo still has around 5% of their users on IE619:07
hatchalthough it's dropping19:07
hatchhonestly getting this routing code to work in IE6 would be as easy as switching the ES5 code to use YUI polyfills19:07
hatchbut there are still code structure changes required before they would accept the pull request19:07
hatchpolyfills.....wrapper methods....19:08
hatchalthough with that said for them to accept it it would have to be agreed on by the community so it might be a better fit in the gallery19:09
hatchI can help navigate the community and procedures if we decide we want to put the effort in going that route19:10
hatchI'll add the note to the review just so that we have it recorded somewhere19:11
hazmathatch, my experiences getting patches upstream into yui has been fairly negative.. in terms of time and effort, and the long wait till action19:16
hazmathatch, i'm game to try and but we need to be realistic about time boxing it19:17
hatchyeah they have made a lot of steps towards speeding up the process but of course any changes need to fit in with the rest of the library19:18
hatchour best bet might be to put it in the gallery19:18
hatchand then at that point decide if it is worth going any further19:18
hatchhazmat: just FYI - there is going to be a continous drive to remove the 'gallery-' from modules and move as many modules from 'core' into the gallery to leave the 'core' just a framework19:20
hatchit's some time away still but that's the end goal19:20
hatchon a recent pull of trunk when I attempt to make devel I get an EPERM error during the grunt node install20:10
hatchsry permissions issues again20:14
hatchwell once I solved those I'm getting an error on spritegen20:33
hatchmake: node_modules/grunt/bin/grunt: Command not found20:33
hatchwere there any changes to trunk recently that would cause that?20:33
hatchlooks like grunt has released a new version which might be the issue20:42
hatchour package.json only specifies a minimum version20:42
hatchyup20:45
hatchjujugui - bug 112946420:52
_mup_Bug #1129464: 0.4.x grunt branch breaks all builds <juju-gui:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129464 >20:52

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