[00:08] <redtape-renegade> k1l .. chromebooks ARE Arm !
[00:09] <k1l> redtape-renegade: nope
[00:09] <k1l> there is one chromebook. the rest is intel stuff
[00:09] <redtape-renegade> k1l: Are you on #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:10] <k1l> Dual-core Intel® Celeron® Processor
[00:10] <redtape-renegade> oh ok .. what ubuntu #channel does that belong to ?
[00:11] <k1l> for support try #ubuntu . for talking about ebay auctions its the offtopic one :)
[00:12] <redtape-renegade> Crumbs .. how generic is that Ans.  ?? It's not an auction-topic .. It's about Chrubuntu ..
[00:13] <k1l> hmm chrubuntu is not a official derivate of ubuntu :/
[00:13] <infinity> There's no such thing as an official derivative.
[00:14] <infinity> Derivatives, by their very nature, can't be "official", as we have no control over them.
[00:17] <isaias> I was able to install ubuntu on my nexus7. onboard up during instalaion but not when I try and put in my password
[00:18] <isaias> and it says I have 5% battery, but I know its full
[00:18] <isaias> or it should be full
[00:18] <darkfaded> isaias: i found that it doesn't update the display at all times
[00:19] <darkfaded> although i'm on 12.10 and it worked most of the time
[00:19] <darkfaded> it's a bit odd
[00:21] <isaias> so reinstalling might fix it, right?
[00:21] <isaias> im on 12.10
[02:25] <guard> do I have to have Nexus connected to Ubuntu when installing it to my device?
[02:26] <guard> i dont think so, but its acting weird
[02:38] <guard> omg, it worked!
[03:22] <raster> moo
[04:52] <guard> how do I add the terminal icon to my dash?
[07:33] <nils_> good morning
[07:37] <nils_> I haven't visited this channel for a few days. Today I read this interesting article: http://www.canonical.com/content/touch-developer-preview-ubuntu-be-published-21-february-2013. Any implication to N7 so far?
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[08:13] <isaias> good morning
[08:14] <isaias> I have to keep my nexus pluged in to be able to use it with ubuntu. is it my install that went weird? or does this happen with everyone?
[08:20] <raster> isaias: i cassh in just fine
[08:20] <raster> plugged in or not
[08:21] <isaias> ok. I'll reinstall when I get home
[08:21] <isaias> raster: Thank you
[10:36] <smartboyhw> ogra_, ping..... You said that we should talk about the Nexus7 testcases in ISO QA Tracker today:P
[10:37] <ogra_> sure, the QA people were on the hool to develop some, you should probably talk to gema and plars where they are at with that, adding them to the isotracker is only the last step
[10:37] <ogra_> s/hool/hook/
[10:37] <smartboyhw> ogra_, OK
[13:19] <Darkwing> ogra_: are teh N7 daily images broken?
[13:20] <ogra_> Darkwing, yes, you can use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/last-good-image/ with the manual method ... it has some bugs though
[13:20] <ogra_> i recommend using a keyboard with it
[13:21] <Darkwing> ogra_: Okay.
[13:21] <ogra_> we're actively working on a fix though
[13:21] <Darkwing> ogra_: I'm going to fiddling with Plasma Active with it so, I'm expectingbroken.
[15:18] <wookey> what backend does plymouth use to draw on arm?
[15:19] <wookey> does it need X, fbdev,, something else? I see mention of 'drm' which seems to be kernel mode access to GPU
[15:19] <wookey> but libdrm only seems to be enabled for x86 in packaging
[15:20] <wookey> I'm trying to work out what the smallest set of packages I have to build to make it work enough to boot on a no-graphics model is.
[15:20] <wookey> but have no cleu how any of it works.
[15:21] <ix_>  I'd like to install ubuntu on my ARM chromebook
[15:21] <ix_> just delete chromeos
[15:21] <wookey> or maybe it _won't_ boot on a console-only machine? (what does ubuntu server do about this?)
[15:26] <plars> ogra_: I talked to balloons about setting up some tests on the iso tracker and opening it up to the community as well for weekly testing.  He wanted me to confirm that the team handling nexus7 images was ok with with that.
[15:27] <plars> ogra_:  Regardless of whether the iso tracker exists or not, I'll try to drag some people into doing a weekly test this wednesday.  Do you think the install issue will be fixed by then?
[15:27] <ogra_> we are ok with any kind of testing
[15:27] <ogra_> plars, we nailed it down to whoopsie
[15:27] <ogra_> even though it isnt clear why it happens yet
[15:27] <ogra_> but it makes dbus and consolekit misbehave
[15:28] <plars> ogra_: ok, balloons and I are both in US holiday today, but I'll talk to him more tomorrow
[15:30] <ogra_> yeah, no hurry
[16:36] <TheMuso> c
[16:40] <ogra-nx7> yay
[16:40]  * ogra-nx7 waves to xnox
[16:40] <xnox> ogra-nx7: hola =)
[16:45] <Laney> that's with the override?
[16:45] <ogra_> that was with the override, yeah
[16:46] <ogra_> just had installed the usual minimal bits i need to actually use the nx7 ...
[16:46] <Laney> so the commits I reverted give me an X
[16:46] <ogra_> like the grab-n-drag extension for firefox which is unusable without it
[16:46] <ogra_> an X ?
[16:46] <Laney> X starts
[16:46] <ogra_> you mean a crosshair cursor ?
[16:46] <Laney> i.e. it works
[16:46] <ogra_> ah
[16:46] <ogra_> yeah
[16:46] <Laney> the ones about libnm-glib
[16:46] <ogra_> awesome
[16:48] <ogra_> i really wonder why it doesnt hit us on the normal install
[16:48] <ogra_> i.e. post install everything seems fine
[16:49] <Laney> 525 522 549 543
[16:50] <ogra_> the measurements of your perfect girlfriend ?
[16:50] <ogra_> (or are they the commit numbers ?)
[16:51] <Laney> those would be interesting measurements ;-)
[16:51] <Laney> yeah, the latter
[16:51] <xnox> ogra_: do we have a nexus7 bug number for this as I want to open a whopsie bug mentioning it.
[16:51] <Laney> 522 is the interesting one
[16:51] <ogra_> one sec
[16:51] <xnox> I also hope whoopsie (do not start) will also help with bug bzr branch lp:~xnox/androidos/patform-system-core
[16:52] <xnox> bug 1123798
[16:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1123798 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm crashed with dbus.exceptions.DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit timed out" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1123798
[16:52] <ogra_> Bug #1127051
[16:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1127051 in ubuntu-nexus7 "Broken dbus/consolekit setup causes black screen instead of running oem-config" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1127051
[16:52] <ogra_> merge them
[16:52] <xnox> ok.
[16:52] <ogra_> since thats not nx7 specific
[16:55] <Laney> the previous code path a check for failure to get the system bus and warn
[16:56] <Laney> s/path/path had/
[16:56] <ogra_> ah, instead of looping forever
[16:58] <xnox> Laney: which commits? in whoopsie?
[16:59] <Laney> yeah
[16:59] <Laney> that's not an exhaustive list, and there were some conflicts
[17:01] <Laney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1677775/ is what I used to test
[17:02] <ogra_> hmm is that the whole valgrind stuff ?
[17:02] <xnox> yeah.
[17:02] <xnox> and switch from using dbus to using a g-i binding-library that uses dbus underneath (autogenerated dbus library)
[17:03] <xnox> and while firefox is building we will get nothing...
[17:03]  * xnox off to have a very late lunch.
[17:03] <ogra_> oh
[17:04] <ogra_> yeah
[17:04]  * ogra_ goes for a *very* late breakfast :P
[17:05] <Laney> hmm
[17:05] <Laney> http://ostree.gnome.org/work/src/NetworkManager/examples/C/glib/get-ap-info-libnm-glib.c
[19:06] <Snark> http://www.ubuntu.com/  <-- nice countdown, but I assume that says when it's becoming public, not when it's available ;-)
[19:07] <Tassadar> whoa Oo
[19:07] <Tassadar> Canonical sure likes countdowns)
[19:08] <drizzy> i already has ubuntu on my tablet
[19:08] <drizzy> must be a stable release
[19:08] <drizzy> d=)
[19:08] <Tassadar> yeah, that's my guess too
[19:08] <drizzy> i hate unity desktop
[19:08] <drizzy> i super hate it
[19:24] <wookey> heh, whole stack of stuff just unbunged. check->libxau->libxcb->libx11->freetype->fontconfig, which fell over on build-deps
[19:26] <wookey> the  direct B-D on binutils issue
[21:37] <jacaru> hey alla
[21:39] <jacaru> anybody in the know, chromium for armhf has not been compiling from some time. Latest version available for 386 is 24 for a while now, but armhf is still 22
[21:39] <infinity> It's known.
[21:41] <jacaru> It's just pending some king of work time or is there stopper?
[21:41] <jacaru> kind*
[21:43] <jacaru> I mean if I were to download sources and do myself, would it be possible barring my own stupidity? :P
[21:43] <infinity> It's pending someone fiding the time to fix it.
[21:44] <jacaru> okie, thnx. also thinking on just downloading the debian package and see how that would work out
[21:49] <jacaru> another q. Any reading material for enabling opengl-es compiz/unity in raring? Or not possible yet?
[21:50] <infinity> It's entirely up to if your platform has working 3D drivers.
[21:52] <jacaru> it does and they work with glmark2-es2. But I can only bring up gnome classic. So I am missing something if it should be automatic.
[22:08] <wookey> fontconfig built. libxrender and libxext should get me to cairo
[22:58] <isaias> ogra_: it works. took me like 5 different installs and several reboots. lol.im on it right now
[22:58] <ogra_> well, we have fixed the issue, i'm just testing the latest daily
[23:01] <ogra_> yay, and it works
[23:01] <isaias> cool.
[23:01]  * ogra_ will copy over to the last-good-image dir
[23:02] <ogra_> xnox, the crashing of compiz seems to be caused by onboard
[23:02] <isaias> its a little slow and choppy, is it normally like this? i dont mind it, i know its still in  development
[23:02] <ogra_> hmm, it shouldnt be slow or choppy no
[23:02] <xnox> ogra_: interesting.
[23:03]  * ogra_ reboots
[23:05] <ogra_> xnox, hmm, no, red herring, it crashes reliably when i focus the wifi key input field
[23:06] <ogra_> even if onboard is already up
[23:06] <ogra_> i guess what we want is something like a respawn function though
[23:10] <ogra_> xnox, aha, and the wallpaper misbehavior only happens if compiz is gone
[23:10] <wookey> hmm, and libxt and pixman and lzo2.
[23:12] <wookey> bloody hell, uploading cairo.