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mhall119tick tock, tick tock16:56
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AlanBellQML tablets you say? Nexus 7 flashable image? oh yummy16:56
mhall119I do hope so16:57
nOStahli'd like to see the ubuntu for phones project take off , and see tablet shell you can dock your phone into16:58
nOStahlor a laptop shell you can dock your phone in and have a new form factor16:58
mhall119or a tv you can dock your laptop that you docked your tablet that you docked your phone to16:59
nOStahlno17:04
nOStahlof course after you dock your phone into a tablet that docks into a laptop THAT docks into your space ship17:04
mhall119who told you about our space ship plans?17:21
mhall119I mean, what space ship?17:21
mainerrorTick, tock. :)19:12
nOStahlwhat is the tick tock19:13
mainerror:)19:13
nOStahlwould make sense for them to launch tablet and phone around same time :P19:14
mainerrorI feel like this http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/ea/eaf96e3242bfaa02573949a6ced1f349.gif19:14
Akiva-Desktopwhat is this tick tock tablet time?19:17
Akiva-Desktopon ubuntu.com?19:17
mainerrorAkiva-Desktop: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-gearing-up-for-tablet-announcement-tomorrow19:18
Akiva-Desktopmainerror: I have a thinkpad convertable tablet19:22
Akiva-Desktopwondering if a release will be issued, and whether I should get it, or the desktop version19:22
Akiva-Desktopunless... are most tablets arm?19:22
mainerrorI guess you should stay with the desktop version.19:23
Akiva-Desktopmainerror: Yah, guess so19:23
M4rtinKI would say the announcement is either an image with the Ubuntu Components & Qt 5 for Nexus 719:26
M4rtinKor some re-branded tablet being available with Ubuntu (less probable, due to the issues Cordia & Plasma Active faced when trying to do something like that)19:27
mhall119Akiva-Desktop: most tablets are ARM, yes19:28
mhall119there are a few exceptions19:28
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: like the thinkpad tablets :P19:29
M4rtinKyeah, for example the We Tab/Exo PC19:29
mhall119I don't know what those are19:29
Akiva-DesktopI wish we could get thinkpad to be an official distrobutor of ubuntu19:29
M4rtinKit even has a built-in cooling fan :)19:29
Akiva-Desktopthey make the best hardware behind apple imo19:29
M4rtinKin the top line - sure19:30
mhall119Akiva-Desktop: I believe Lenovo already sells Ubuntu pre-installed on some models19:30
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: You don't know of the convertible thinkpads? Oh man, these are legendary.19:30
M4rtinKThinkpad Edge - not so much19:30
mhall119Akiva-Desktop: I'm just happy with my X22019:30
mainerrorAkiva-Desktop: Those are not really tablets though.19:30
M4rtinKT520 FTW :)19:30
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: Ah, so you do know :)19:30
popeyI've yet to see an X86 tablet that didn't suck19:30
Akiva-Desktopx220 is amazing19:30
mhall119I know about laptops19:31
mhall119not their tablets19:31
Akiva-Desktopyah, its x series, with a t and the end19:31
Akiva-Desktopx220t19:31
mhall119oh, that's be a big tablet19:31
Akiva-DesktopI have the x60 t, picked it up on craigslist for 12019:31
mhall119I mean, it's a nice small laptop, but it would be a big tablet19:31
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: Yessum.19:31
Akiva-DesktopWell, its a bit heavier than the x220 too, so19:32
Akiva-Desktopnever been slim unfortunately19:32
mhall119but if it's an x220, then it's likely an x86 chip19:32
Akiva-Desktopthe ideapad yoga looks interesting, but its ideapad.19:32
mhall119not that it matters a whole lot to Ubuntu19:32
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: Yah, same hardware, just a bit thicker and heavier19:32
mhall119since we can re-compile most of our archive for both19:32
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: Using it though with unity, made me really appreciate how good it is with tablets.19:33
mhall119won't matter for apps either, since we're pushing for the use of non-compiled QML19:33
M4rtinKwell, even if QML itself is not compiled19:33
Akiva-Desktopthe best feature is how you do window scrolling with the sidebar, having that little floating button with the two arrows. it is perfect for a stylus or finger.19:33
M4rtinKmost non-trivial QML apps have a lot of C++ backend stuff19:33
mhall119M4rtinK: I've heard QML2 makes that less necessary than QML1 did19:34
Akiva-Desktopmhall119: any plans for the onscreen keyboard to take handwriting input?19:34
mhall119Akiva-Desktop: I'm not aware of any for Linux, no19:34
Akiva-Desktopthat is hard stuff to program19:34
M4rtinKmhall119: it is much better, but some APIs are still not yet available19:34
Akiva-DesktopI found one, it was... well you had to write one for each letter first before it recognized it19:35
Akiva-Desktoplike, it had to learn from your examples.19:35
M4rtinKmhall119: such as clipborad access or settings storage/persistence19:35
M4rtinK*clipboard19:35
mhall119M4rtinK: ah, we should make QML plugins for those though19:35
mainerrorForget about handwriting input, swipe typing is the way to go. :)19:35
M4rtinKmhall119: IIRC for those two it is already WIP19:35
M4rtinKmhall119: other than missing interfaces, writing complex software logic using Javascript might get quite interesting :)19:37
M4rtinKmhall119: my solution - use Python for the backend :)19:38
M4rtinKmhall119: should work quite nicely once the PySide or PyQt support for Qt 5 improves19:38
Akiva-Desktopmainerror: it would be nice however to maintain the elegance that is handwriting.19:55
mainerrorAkiva-Desktop: You clearly never saw my handwriting. :D19:56
Akiva-Desktopreal handwriting too; A font feels terribly pretentious.19:56
Akiva-Desktopmainerror: Touché19:56
GuidoPallemanshtc.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssnw2GA657s21:09
nOStahlinteresting21:10
M4rtinKso probably a rebranded HTC tablet running Ubuntu ? :)22:08
mhall119"probably" might be too strong a word for it22:49
M4rtinK100% sure ? :)22:59
k1lwhy rebrand? if its a htc tablet with ubuntu OS (instead of Andriod OS)22:59
M4rtinKgood point23:00
k1li mean, why should htc advertise a device thats not labled with htc :)23:00
M4rtinKI mean basically being able to get a (HTC ?) tablet with Ubuntu preloaded23:01
mattwj2002hi guys23:53

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