[16:56] <mhall119> tick tock, tick tock
[16:56] <AlanBell> QML tablets you say? Nexus 7 flashable image? oh yummy
[16:57] <mhall119> I do hope so
[16:58] <nOStahl> i'd like to see the ubuntu for phones project take off , and see tablet shell you can dock your phone into
[16:58] <nOStahl> or a laptop shell you can dock your phone in and have a new form factor
[16:59] <mhall119> or a tv you can dock your laptop that you docked your tablet that you docked your phone to
[17:04] <nOStahl> no
[17:04] <nOStahl> of course after you dock your phone into a tablet that docks into a laptop THAT docks into your space ship
[17:21] <mhall119> who told you about our space ship plans?
[17:21] <mhall119> I mean, what space ship?
[19:12] <mainerror> Tick, tock. :)
[19:13] <nOStahl> what is the tick tock
[19:13] <mainerror> :)
[19:14] <nOStahl> would make sense for them to launch tablet and phone around same time :P
[19:14] <mainerror> I feel like this http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/ea/eaf96e3242bfaa02573949a6ced1f349.gif
[19:17] <Akiva-Desktop> what is this tick tock tablet time?
[19:17] <Akiva-Desktop> on ubuntu.com?
[19:18] <mainerror> Akiva-Desktop: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-gearing-up-for-tablet-announcement-tomorrow
[19:22] <Akiva-Desktop> mainerror: I have a thinkpad convertable tablet
[19:22] <Akiva-Desktop> wondering if a release will be issued, and whether I should get it, or the desktop version
[19:22] <Akiva-Desktop> unless... are most tablets arm?
[19:23] <mainerror> I guess you should stay with the desktop version.
[19:23] <Akiva-Desktop> mainerror: Yah, guess so
[19:26] <M4rtinK> I would say the announcement is either an image with the Ubuntu Components & Qt 5 for Nexus 7
[19:27] <M4rtinK> or some re-branded tablet being available with Ubuntu (less probable, due to the issues Cordia & Plasma Active faced when trying to do something like that)
[19:28] <mhall119> Akiva-Desktop: most tablets are ARM, yes
[19:28] <mhall119> there are a few exceptions
[19:29] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: like the thinkpad tablets :P
[19:29] <M4rtinK> yeah, for example the We Tab/Exo PC
[19:29] <mhall119> I don't know what those are
[19:29] <Akiva-Desktop> I wish we could get thinkpad to be an official distrobutor of ubuntu
[19:29] <M4rtinK> it even has a built-in cooling fan :)
[19:29] <Akiva-Desktop> they make the best hardware behind apple imo
[19:30] <M4rtinK> in the top line - sure
[19:30] <mhall119> Akiva-Desktop: I believe Lenovo already sells Ubuntu pre-installed on some models
[19:30] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: You don't know of the convertible thinkpads? Oh man, these are legendary.
[19:30] <M4rtinK> Thinkpad Edge - not so much
[19:30] <mhall119> Akiva-Desktop: I'm just happy with my X220
[19:30] <mainerror> Akiva-Desktop: Those are not really tablets though.
[19:30] <M4rtinK> T520 FTW :)
[19:30] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: Ah, so you do know :)
[19:30] <popey> I've yet to see an X86 tablet that didn't suck
[19:30] <Akiva-Desktop> x220 is amazing
[19:31] <mhall119> I know about laptops
[19:31] <mhall119> not their tablets
[19:31] <Akiva-Desktop> yah, its x series, with a t and the end
[19:31] <Akiva-Desktop> x220t
[19:31] <mhall119> oh, that's be a big tablet
[19:31] <Akiva-Desktop> I have the x60 t, picked it up on craigslist for 120
[19:31] <mhall119> I mean, it's a nice small laptop, but it would be a big tablet
[19:31] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: Yessum.
[19:32] <Akiva-Desktop> Well, its a bit heavier than the x220 too, so
[19:32] <Akiva-Desktop> never been slim unfortunately
[19:32] <mhall119> but if it's an x220, then it's likely an x86 chip
[19:32] <Akiva-Desktop> the ideapad yoga looks interesting, but its ideapad.
[19:32] <mhall119> not that it matters a whole lot to Ubuntu
[19:32] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: Yah, same hardware, just a bit thicker and heavier
[19:32] <mhall119> since we can re-compile most of our archive for both
[19:33] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: Using it though with unity, made me really appreciate how good it is with tablets.
[19:33] <mhall119> won't matter for apps either, since we're pushing for the use of non-compiled QML
[19:33] <M4rtinK> well, even if QML itself is not compiled
[19:33] <Akiva-Desktop> the best feature is how you do window scrolling with the sidebar, having that little floating button with the two arrows. it is perfect for a stylus or finger.
[19:33] <M4rtinK> most non-trivial QML apps have a lot of C++ backend stuff
[19:34] <mhall119> M4rtinK: I've heard QML2 makes that less necessary than QML1 did
[19:34] <Akiva-Desktop> mhall119: any plans for the onscreen keyboard to take handwriting input?
[19:34] <mhall119> Akiva-Desktop: I'm not aware of any for Linux, no
[19:34] <Akiva-Desktop> that is hard stuff to program
[19:34] <M4rtinK> mhall119: it is much better, but some APIs are still not yet available
[19:35] <Akiva-Desktop> I found one, it was... well you had to write one for each letter first before it recognized it
[19:35] <Akiva-Desktop> like, it had to learn from your examples.
[19:35] <M4rtinK> mhall119: such as clipborad access or settings storage/persistence
[19:35] <M4rtinK> *clipboard
[19:35] <mhall119> M4rtinK: ah, we should make QML plugins for those though
[19:35] <mainerror> Forget about handwriting input, swipe typing is the way to go. :)
[19:35] <M4rtinK> mhall119: IIRC for those two it is already WIP
[19:37] <M4rtinK> mhall119: other than missing interfaces, writing complex software logic using Javascript might get quite interesting :)
[19:38] <M4rtinK> mhall119: my solution - use Python for the backend :)
[19:38] <M4rtinK> mhall119: should work quite nicely once the PySide or PyQt support for Qt 5 improves
[19:55] <Akiva-Desktop> mainerror: it would be nice however to maintain the elegance that is handwriting.
[19:56] <mainerror> Akiva-Desktop: You clearly never saw my handwriting. :D
[19:56] <Akiva-Desktop> real handwriting too; A font feels terribly pretentious.
[19:56] <Akiva-Desktop> mainerror: Touché
[21:09] <GuidoPallemans> htc.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssnw2GA657s
[21:10] <nOStahl> interesting
[22:08] <M4rtinK> so probably a rebranded HTC tablet running Ubuntu ? :)
[22:49] <mhall119> "probably" might be too strong a word for it
[22:59] <M4rtinK> 100% sure ? :)
[22:59] <k1l> why rebrand? if its a htc tablet with ubuntu OS (instead of Andriod OS)
[23:00] <M4rtinK> good point
[23:00] <k1l> i mean, why should htc advertise a device thats not labled with htc :)
[23:01] <M4rtinK> I mean basically being able to get a (HTC ?) tablet with Ubuntu preloaded
[23:53] <mattwj2002> hi guys