[02:35] <packetfrog_> Anyone know how to get the system tray back on xfce   like the start menu where open windows are shown   if i minimize anything i cant get it back right now.
[02:36] <packetfrog_> cfhowlett thanks for the pointer on not being retarded and reinstalling xfce   made it so i could get to window manager settings   couldnt before
[02:37] <packetfrog_> oops  wrong window
[11:26] <multimedia> Hello
[11:41] <zequence> multimedia: hi
[20:15] <SzArAk> guys, will lowlatency kernel in 12.10 work with fgrlx proprietary driver for ATI cards?
[20:16] <SzArAk> I remember I switched to opensource drivers becouse i couldn't run X on fgrlx. Is it possible currently?
[20:16] <Xzu> hi there. Big issue, using ubuntu 12.04 and xfce4(kx-studio). After add a folder link to the shortcut toolbar, no more bar was runing (all crashed). So I did sudo reboot. Now I can't login, after the password, black screen and then come back to login
[20:18] <SzArAk> can you change graphical environment while logging in and see if it's the same there? See if you have any options in drop-down menu.
[20:19] <Xzu> SzArAk, no, only xfce4
[20:19] <Xzu> I can loggin as a guess!
[20:23] <zequence> SzArAk: As falktx said on another channel, -lowlatency is the same as -generic, but with a slightly different config. Anything that works on -generic will work on -lowlatency
[20:23] <zequence> I've noticed that when you install drivers, DMKS says, only building a module for this kernel
[20:24] <zequence> That means, make sure you are on -lowlatency when installing the driver
[20:24] <zequence> Also, fglrx was not usable on 12.10 before, since it didn't support the xorg version
[20:24] <zequence> I heard it's ok now
[20:25] <SzArAk> thanks for detailed info.
[20:25] <zequence> Xzu: Something is messed up in your user settings
[20:26] <zequence> Xzu: I can't tell you from the top of my head what to reset, but it's enough to delete some settings in your user directory in order to make this problem go away
[20:26] <Unit193> Are you thinking about ~/.config ?
[20:26] <Xzu> good question
[20:27] <zequence> Xzu: One simple way to solve it is to backup anything important in the home dir, and then just delete everything. That will reset all your user settings
[20:27] <Xzu> zequence, ...hmm..
[20:27] <Xzu> a little barbar!!
[20:31] <Xzu> thx I'll try! ;)
[20:34] <Unit193> zequence: .config and .cache are two good ones to check, .cache holds sessions.
[20:38] <zequence> Unit193: That sounds very plausible to me. Especially .cache. I don't really know XFCE that much, and don't know what it uses
[20:39] <Unit193> I just read up, sounds more like .ICEauthority and .Xauthority, which Grid recommended in #xubuntu (Just info for later, not implying anything. :P )
[21:51] <SzArAk> zequence: bah, not worth it... there are bugs that unables me to run fglrx with my hybrid graphics. Found a PPA of a guy who made his own xorg intel package that fixed it, but it occured discrete graphic whas much slower than integrated on opensource drivers
[21:51] <SzArAk> to much hassle and negative results.. i miss nvidia cards ;(
[21:59] <zequence> SzArAk: 12.04 should work smoothly. I don't know how much free AMD drivers affect low latency, if that is a concern
[21:59] <zequence> For me, free nvidia drivers are unusable at low latencies
[21:59] <zequence> But, for len-1304 they are not
[22:13] <faLUCE> hi, after a power failure and reboot, I can't see windows decorations anymore and I see a "x" instead of the mouse pointer... what can I do? The windows manager is quite unusable now
[22:17] <zequence> faLUCE: that sounds like some sort of X window safe graphics mode
[22:19] <zequence> I can't advice you on that, sorry. I'm thinking though, that if it's not a graphic card failure (try a live OS), it might be what another user had here earlier, corrupted user files (try as another user).
[22:19] <zequence> If it's corrupted user files, you might need to delete something
[22:19] <zequence> ~/.cache was suggested, and might be a good place to begin
[22:35] <faLUCE> help! How can I restore windows decorations? something has messed up after a pov
[22:35] <faLUCE> after a power failure and reboot, I can't see windows decorations anymore and I see a "x" instead of the mouse pointer... what can I do? The windows manager is quite unusable now
[22:35] <faLUCE> [Monday 18 February 2013] [23:16:53] |Entra| studio-user262 è entrato nel canale (d03626b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.54.38.185).
[22:37] <zequence> faLUCE: Hi, I responded to you earlier. Did you loose connection?
[22:37] <zequence> faLUCE: To make sure it's not a graphic card failure, try another OS. Perhaps a live OS.
[22:38] <zequence> faLUCE: To make sure it's not a user setting problem, try using a different user, like Guest
[22:41] <faLUCE> zequence:  well, just solved with xfwm4 command. what a weird bug, anyway