| nicfer | hello | 03:30 |
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| nicfer | for a pc with 256mb ram I shall use the alternative install right? | 03:32 |
| wxl | nicfer: i'd recommend it | 03:32 |
| nicfer | also, I connect with an usb wifi adapter | 03:33 |
| wxl | are you asking or telling? | 03:35 |
| nicfer | does alt handle it? it's a rtl8187, dmesg tells me it's detected, but there is no iwconfig or something as far as I looked | 03:35 |
| holstein | nicfer: you end up with the same thing | 03:37 |
| holstein | nicfer: depends on the chipset... i would run lspci and search around | 03:37 |
| nicfer | it's usb... rtl8187, kernel detects it but t | 03:39 |
| nicfer | installer not | 03:39 |
| holstein | nicfer: i just install, and use the network with the installed os | 03:42 |
| holstein | i dont download with the installer | 03:42 |
| === Kuroda_Shun is now known as Dallas_Spohn | ||
| Kuroda_Shun | I have a question that may roll oyur eyes.... If my work pc is set up exactly the way I want it.. Can i save my image as an ISO with all the bells and whistles attached so I done have to "remember" all the software I have installed? | 15:30 |
| holstein | Kuroda_Shun: sure... its open technology, so the answer is pretty much always yes | 15:32 |
| Kuroda_Shun | holstein: yes... but what software does it? | 15:32 |
| holstein | now, what are easy ways to do that? ..typically, one might use the synaptic package manager to "save" basically a list of what is installed | 15:32 |
| Kuroda_Shun | i have a package list of my installs | 15:32 |
| holstein | then, you could save your home directory, *all* of it... even the hidden files, and that would restore your settings | 15:33 |
| holstein | when folks ask "how can i clone, or move my install?".. i usually suggest since its so close to what you would do for a backup, just take this time to make sure you have a good backup system in place | 15:33 |
| Kuroda_Shun | but I would like to "package" it into an iso to share | 15:33 |
| holstein | that could be as automated as using ubuntuone or something like dropbox, or literally dragging your files over to a USB drive | 15:34 |
| holstein | Kuroda_Shun: i have used clonezilla, a seperate live distro, for creating basically backup images of my installations | 15:34 |
| Kuroda_Shun | ok. thanks for all the info | 15:34 |
| holstein | since the linux kernel is modular, you can usually get away with taking a cloned install to another machine | 15:35 |
| Kuroda_Shun | thats what I want to do | 15:35 |
| holstein | there are also systems designed to do bacially *exactly* what you are trying to do, such as remastersys | 15:35 |
| holstein | i have had questionable success with remastersys and ubuntu customization kit..etc... so i usually just either manaually backup my data, or do a clonezilla clone | 15:36 |
| Kuroda_Shun | i dont really need to back up my data since i use Dropbox to work from.. But the package list is what I want to include in my .iso as well as the lubuntu install | 15:37 |
| Kuroda_Shun | so it is all installed together | 15:38 |
| Kuroda_Shun | ill read about clonezilla and remastersys | 15:38 |
| holstein | Kuroda_Shun: i choose not to do that.. packages change, and break.. and are you including a PPA? that could get problematic quick | 15:38 |
| Kuroda_Shun | ohh didn't think of that | 15:38 |
| holstein | but, anyways.. you can do literally any of the varieties of backup or cloing you want | 15:38 |
| holstein | cloning* | 15:39 |
| Kuroda_Shun | i want to keep it as slim limned as I possibly can.. to be able to re image my machine and be back up and running in about an hour :) | 15:40 |
| Kuroda_Shun | *linned | 15:40 |
| Kuroda_Shun | *lined | 15:40 |
| holstein | Kuroda_Shun: that also depends on what you want at the end.. how old your image is.. and how many upgrades are available, assuming you would want that | 15:40 |
| holstein | if your image is 6 months old and you are on a slow-ish network, it could take hours to do "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" | 15:41 |
| holstein | that is not something that you can change with software | 15:41 |
| holstein | but, you can roll up whatever you want however you want | 15:41 |
| holstein | what do i do? i keep a manual copy or copies of my actual "important" data and the actual install is more flexible | 15:42 |
| Kuroda_Shun | that is how I do it already | 15:42 |
| holstein | i have a small list of applictaions that i like to use, and usually install, but sometimes i dont want them on every reinstallation, or i find better solutions, or newer versions.. or older, more compatible ones for my needs | 15:43 |
| Kuroda_Shun | but with a different linux image most of the time | 15:43 |
| holstein | i think what you are looking for is your own OS | 15:43 |
| holstein | and, you can see in a model such as any of the ubuntu variants, how challenging it can be to maintain that image | 15:43 |
| Kuroda_Shun | yeah, i dont have that kind of time to spare... nice thought though | 15:44 |
| holstein | not that you shoudnt try, or cant.. just that, ofr my needs, i find during maintaining those images, due to changes in my preferences, or upgrades or changes, i find that the efforts are a waste of time | 15:44 |
| Kuroda_Shun | thanks holstein, you are always here to sort me out | 15:44 |
| holstein | that being said, i dont reimage like 20 machines a month for a buisness | 15:45 |
| holstein | in that case, i probably would want to do more work on the front end | 15:45 |
| holstein | Kuroda_Shun: sure. anytime :) | 15:45 |
| boyOfClod | new to l ubuntu | 15:50 |
| boyOfClod | how to i change key layout after selecting try | 15:51 |
| boyOfClod | *do | 15:51 |
| holstein | boyOfClod: same as for a normal install | 15:51 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 | 15:52 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/102344/switching-keyboard-layouts-in-lubuntu-11-10 | 15:52 |
| boyOfClod | smaaaaaaaash | 15:54 |
| boyOfClod | :D | 15:54 |
| holstein | boyOfClod: you can check out the #lubuntu-offopic channel for chat.. thanks! | 15:57 |
| boyOfClod | failed to figure out how to alternate between qwerty and dvorak without manually changing in settings | 16:01 |
| boyOfClod | necessary for other users | 16:01 |
| holstein | boyOfClod: you can manually change is settings.. there are other settings managers | 16:03 |
| holstein | boyOfClod: when you install, you can set that up for whatever user | 16:03 |
| manOfClod | previously attempting to install lubuntu resulted in grub not installed | 16:15 |
| manOfClod | reattempting, so far so well | 16:15 |
| user | hello. Has anyone tried out any the latest 13.04 betas? Is 13.04 stable enough for home desktop use yet? | 16:44 |
| holstein | user: i would use #ubuntu+1 for the upcoming not yet released versions of ubuntu | 16:46 |
| holstein | user: its not a stable release, and "stable enough" is a matter of opinion | 16:47 |
| user | thanks | 16:48 |
| nicfer | hi | 17:56 |
| nicfer | I'm having dependency issues with the alternative installer | 17:57 |
| holstein | yeah? | 17:57 |
| holstein | nicfer: i would just install the OS, and dont add any extra packages there | 17:58 |
| holstein | after you get installed, then sudo apt-get update and install what you want.. and all should be well | 17:58 |
| nicfer | things like lubuntu-desktop depends on lxpanel-indicator applet but it isn't installable or similar | 17:59 |
| holstein | nicfer: i would check the iso you are using.. and dont insatll upgrades while you are installing | 18:00 |
| nicfer | I'm using a usb drive since this pc has no cd reader | 18:03 |
| DonaldDuck74 | hi all | 20:27 |
| DonaldDuck74 | someone knows how I can solve a problem connection with mimms | 20:27 |
| DonaldDuck74 | the error is : mimms mms://url...wmv Connecting ...libmms error: | 20:29 |
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| === ben1u is now known as benlu | ||
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