[03:30] hello [03:32] for a pc with 256mb ram I shall use the alternative install right? [03:32] nicfer: i'd recommend it [03:33] also, I connect with an usb wifi adapter [03:35] are you asking or telling? [03:35] does alt handle it? it's a rtl8187, dmesg tells me it's detected, but there is no iwconfig or something as far as I looked [03:37] nicfer: you end up with the same thing [03:37] nicfer: depends on the chipset... i would run lspci and search around [03:39] it's usb... rtl8187, kernel detects it but t [03:39] installer not [03:42] nicfer: i just install, and use the network with the installed os [03:42] i dont download with the installer === Kuroda_Shun is now known as Dallas_Spohn [15:30] I have a question that may roll oyur eyes.... If my work pc is set up exactly the way I want it.. Can i save my image as an ISO with all the bells and whistles attached so I done have to "remember" all the software I have installed? [15:32] Kuroda_Shun: sure... its open technology, so the answer is pretty much always yes [15:32] holstein: yes... but what software does it? [15:32] now, what are easy ways to do that? ..typically, one might use the synaptic package manager to "save" basically a list of what is installed [15:32] i have a package list of my installs [15:33] then, you could save your home directory, *all* of it... even the hidden files, and that would restore your settings [15:33] when folks ask "how can i clone, or move my install?".. i usually suggest since its so close to what you would do for a backup, just take this time to make sure you have a good backup system in place [15:33] but I would like to "package" it into an iso to share [15:34] that could be as automated as using ubuntuone or something like dropbox, or literally dragging your files over to a USB drive [15:34] Kuroda_Shun: i have used clonezilla, a seperate live distro, for creating basically backup images of my installations [15:34] ok. thanks for all the info [15:35] since the linux kernel is modular, you can usually get away with taking a cloned install to another machine [15:35] thats what I want to do [15:35] there are also systems designed to do bacially *exactly* what you are trying to do, such as remastersys [15:36] i have had questionable success with remastersys and ubuntu customization kit..etc... so i usually just either manaually backup my data, or do a clonezilla clone [15:37] i dont really need to back up my data since i use Dropbox to work from.. But the package list is what I want to include in my .iso as well as the lubuntu install [15:38] so it is all installed together [15:38] ill read about clonezilla and remastersys [15:38] Kuroda_Shun: i choose not to do that.. packages change, and break.. and are you including a PPA? that could get problematic quick [15:38] ohh didn't think of that [15:38] but, anyways.. you can do literally any of the varieties of backup or cloing you want [15:39] cloning* [15:40] i want to keep it as slim limned as I possibly can.. to be able to re image my machine and be back up and running in about an hour :) [15:40] *linned [15:40] *lined [15:40] Kuroda_Shun: that also depends on what you want at the end.. how old your image is.. and how many upgrades are available, assuming you would want that [15:41] if your image is 6 months old and you are on a slow-ish network, it could take hours to do "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" [15:41] that is not something that you can change with software [15:41] but, you can roll up whatever you want however you want [15:42] what do i do? i keep a manual copy or copies of my actual "important" data and the actual install is more flexible [15:42] that is how I do it already [15:43] i have a small list of applictaions that i like to use, and usually install, but sometimes i dont want them on every reinstallation, or i find better solutions, or newer versions.. or older, more compatible ones for my needs [15:43] but with a different linux image most of the time [15:43] i think what you are looking for is your own OS [15:43] and, you can see in a model such as any of the ubuntu variants, how challenging it can be to maintain that image [15:44] yeah, i dont have that kind of time to spare... nice thought though [15:44] not that you shoudnt try, or cant.. just that, ofr my needs, i find during maintaining those images, due to changes in my preferences, or upgrades or changes, i find that the efforts are a waste of time [15:44] thanks holstein, you are always here to sort me out [15:45] that being said, i dont reimage like 20 machines a month for a buisness [15:45] in that case, i probably would want to do more work on the front end [15:45] Kuroda_Shun: sure. anytime :) [15:50] new to l ubuntu [15:51] how to i change key layout after selecting try [15:51] *do [15:51] boyOfClod: same as for a normal install [15:52] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 [15:52] http://askubuntu.com/questions/102344/switching-keyboard-layouts-in-lubuntu-11-10 [15:54] smaaaaaaaash [15:54] :D [15:57] boyOfClod: you can check out the #lubuntu-offopic channel for chat.. thanks! [16:01] failed to figure out how to alternate between qwerty and dvorak without manually changing in settings [16:01] necessary for other users [16:03] boyOfClod: you can manually change is settings.. there are other settings managers [16:03] boyOfClod: when you install, you can set that up for whatever user [16:15] previously attempting to install lubuntu resulted in grub not installed [16:15] reattempting, so far so well [16:44] hello. Has anyone tried out any the latest 13.04 betas? Is 13.04 stable enough for home desktop use yet? [16:46] user: i would use #ubuntu+1 for the upcoming not yet released versions of ubuntu [16:47] user: its not a stable release, and "stable enough" is a matter of opinion [16:48] thanks [17:56] hi [17:57] I'm having dependency issues with the alternative installer [17:57] yeah? [17:58] nicfer: i would just install the OS, and dont add any extra packages there [17:58] after you get installed, then sudo apt-get update and install what you want.. and all should be well [17:59] things like lubuntu-desktop depends on lxpanel-indicator applet but it isn't installable or similar [18:00] nicfer: i would check the iso you are using.. and dont insatll upgrades while you are installing [18:03] I'm using a usb drive since this pc has no cd reader [20:27] hi all [20:27] someone knows how I can solve a problem connection with mimms [20:29] the error is : mimms mms://url...wmv Connecting ...libmms error: === Noskcaj is now known as Noskcaj_AFK === ben1u is now known as benlu