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jcastrojono: around?01:48
jcastrohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lShTMrFVco01:48
jcastroman, the kick drums here ^^^01:48
jonojcastro, nice!01:49
dpmgood morning all06:14
bkerensamorning06:18
philipballewI see bkerensa has moved to Europe06:23
bkerensaphilipballew: this is always my morning06:23
vibhavphilipballew: We follow UGT here :)06:24
bkerensa;)06:24
bkerensaseems like we follow GMT strictly06:24
bkerensavibhav: working on bugs?06:24
bkerensa;)06:24
philipballewbkerensa, I live in the country of California so thats all I know.06:25
vibhavbkerensa: Indeed06:25
chilicuilbkerensa: is that true?, congrats! =)06:25
bkerensavibhav: I should take a break from my wordpress client stuff and do some merges06:25
bkerensachilicuil: mmm06:25
JoseeAntonioRwhat is true?06:26
bkerensaJoseeAntonioR: if you find out do tell :)06:26
vibhavbkerensa: Though not actually bugs, but I was working on some automated tests for libraries in Ubuntu06:27
vibhav(aka autopkgtest)06:27
bkerensavibhav: ahh.. I think I am going to upgrade some packages and transition some patches upstream06:27
vibhavyay06:27
JoseeAntonioRbkerensa: nope, can't find06:28
vibhavbkerensa: btw, What is the status on hilighting contributors?06:28
vibhavhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-r-dev-tasks-publicity06:28
bkerensavibhav: Me and dholbach need to sync up but I assume the plan is to get back into the regular mix of highlighting contributors on OMG/Fridge/etc06:30
vibhavYes, the development updates were a big hit06:30
* vibhav remembers seeing his name on Development updates :)06:31
bkerensaYeah :) we had a difficult time trying to find people who were committed to helping us so it was me and dholbach and because of our time zone difference it fizzled a bit06:32
bkerensaI'll be sure to ping him in a hour06:32
vibhavperfect06:32
dpmvibhav, is UGT Ubuntu Global Time?06:40
vibhavdpm: Universal Greeting Time06:44
dpmawesome :)06:44
vibhavdpm: Though Ubuntu Global Time sounds better too :D06:45
dpm:-)06:45
dholbachgood morning08:01
JoseeAntonioRhey dholbach, just wanted to confirm you're doing a hangout today before I go to sleep08:08
bkerensadholbach: I sent you a e-mail about dev contributor highlights... just wanted to ping you before I go to sleep too ;)08:11
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, no, likely not08:14
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: ok, cancelling, thanks for the heads-up :)08:14
dholbachbkerensa, yes, thanks a lot for that and sorry I didn't reply to your earlier mail - I'm just drowning in stuff to do right now08:14
dholbachbkerensa, I'll reply today - promise08:14
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: have fun with your stuff, and talk to you later! :)08:14
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, rock on08:15
smartboyhwJoseeAntonioR, hey08:18
JoseeAntonioRhey, smartboyhw08:18
smartboyhwdholbach, do you know what that tablet is about?:P08:18
dholbachsmartboyhw, no08:18
smartboyhwdholbach, srsly?08:19
bkerensagnight folks... keep it FOSSy08:20
JoseeAntonioRI'm out too, see you later, guys!08:23
dholbachsmartboyhw, no, I was surprised by the announce thing too08:24
smartboyhwdholbach, srsly?:P08:48
dholbachI have a hunch08:49
smartboyhwdholbach, LOL08:50
dholbachI'm serious08:50
smartboyhwdholbach, what hunch?08:50
dholbach...08:50
smartboyhwAnyone think it will be related to HTC?08:50
czajkowskismartboyhw: you're over thinking it08:51
czajkowskijust wait08:51
czajkowski:)08:51
smartboyhwczajkowski, bah:P08:51
jussio/08:51
smartboyhw\o/08:51
philipballewczajkowski, nice to see you in the channel!09:29
czajkowskiam always here09:29
czajkowskijust rather busy09:29
czajkowskimornings tend to be busy when I catch up with part of my team in AU09:30
philipballewYes, but have not seen you talk in a few. I am usually sleeping in your afternoon probably.09:30
czajkowskiah most likly09:30
czajkowskigonna be busier now as also moved roles as well09:31
czajkowskiso doing LP support and also online services work as well09:31
philipballewoh wow. thats really intense. but, I hope you are enjoying it.09:32
czajkowskishould keep me busy :)09:33
czajkowskiand I've a conference I;m  running in 2 weeks time09:33
philipballewczajkowski, whats the conference?09:34
czajkowskihackntalk09:34
czajkowskione day even where people can hack or demo stuff or give a talk09:34
czajkowskiwork in groups09:34
philipballewoh nice!09:34
czajkowskior just be in the same room as geeks09:34
czajkowskihave 42 places gone outta 7009:34
philipballewexciting!09:34
czajkowskiyup so am kept well busy in my spare time09:35
czajkowskiand on a 4 day week this week as have friday off as other half is going to go fly a plane :)09:35
jussi42 is the magic number :D09:36
czajkowskiit's not a bad number tbh09:36
czajkowskiand I was aiming for 4009:36
philipballewI'm running the Ubuntu booth for one of the biggest Linux conferences this week. Not as cool, but something09:36
czajkowskiand will run it every 3-4 months09:36
czajkowskiphilipballew: which one ?09:37
philipballewczajkowski, SCALE09:37
philipballewIts the best Linux Conference that occurs in February and is in California!09:41
czajkowskiphilipballew: http://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/item/31475-ul-to-offer-100-free-place10:15
dakerhi11:41
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JoseeAntonioRhey guys, what time is the announcement?14:24
JoseeAntonioRshows it's in 1h and a half for me, wasn't it 6pm UTC?14:24
popeyyeah, 1.5 hours is what i see too14:26
JoseeAntonioRah, ok14:28
czajkowski4pm UTC14:31
* AlanBell wonders if the servers will crash this time14:38
* AlanBell has credit card out, waiting for the Ubuntu tablet order form to spring into life14:39
smartboyhwLOL14:39
daker-5min15:55
dakerhahaha 503 Service Unavailable16:00
JoseeAntonioRurgh16:02
jared_daker: maybe that's the announcement, it's not available?16:02
dakerthe site become really slow :)16:02
dakerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5_4fXQcxFRs16:04
JoseeAntonioRthey're using the pictogram wall as a background!16:06
jared_I'd buy a google nexus 10 I could dual boot android/ubuntu tomorrow, not holding my breath but it'd be pretty sweet.16:16
jonomhall119, setting it up16:28
jonomhall119, invite sent16:29
mhall119joining16:32
balloonsjared_, you can dual boot android ubuntu17:05
jared_balloons: I'm just waiting for google to actually stock my country again :/ They've been out of stock for a few months. I saw the focus on the nexus 7 and hoped the 10 would work just as well17:06
balloonsjared_, to be fair, I only know about the nexus 7: https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom17:06
jared_balloons: Yeah I was hoping the announcement would start naming names ;)17:08
jbicha"only enterprise Linux to support the ARM platform" on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet/partner ..I guess Debian isn't enterprise?17:35
mhall119jbicha: can you buy enterprise support from Debian?18:06
jbichamhall119: I know some DDs that will support your Debian deployment :) http://www.debian.org/partners/18:32
mhall119jbicha: but that's not support from Debian, that's support from DDs18:32
jcastroI think what they mean by enteprise is "is there a company behind it."18:46
jcastrowe do this with cloud too, "#1 enterprise cloud OS" but don't count debian.18:46
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Hangouts should be up to date now19:00
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: thanks a lot, will be updating the calendar now19:01
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, hang on19:02
dholbachthere's a small mistake19:02
* JoseeAntonioR waits19:02
dholbach21 Feb → 22 Feb19:02
dholbachsorry19:02
JoseeAntonioRat 15 UTC?19:02
dholbachupdated19:02
dholbachyes19:02
dholbachsame time19:02
JoseeAntonioRok!19:02
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: calendar updated now :)19:04
dholbachyeehaw19:05
* czajkowski peers at dholbach 19:05
czajkowskioi oi19:05
dholbachoi yourself! :)19:05
czajkowskiyou're on late mister go make some musik! :)19:05
dholbachyeah, in a bit19:06
dholbachfound some GREAT music today19:06
dholbachnuts19:06
dholbacha bit rough, but great tunes: http://www.mixcloud.com/nllovednb/nllovednb-07-fourward/19:06
czajkowskiohhh nice could do with some new tunes19:07
dholbachall right my friends - time to call it a day19:10
dholbachsee you all tomorrow!19:10
czajkowskitoodle pip19:10
dholbach:)19:10
pleia2jcastro: do you know who runs _mup_ in #juju?20:00
jcastrono clue20:01
czajkowskipleia2: https://launchpad.net/mup20:01
pleia2czajkowski: sweet, thanks :)20:02
czajkowskinp20:02
czajkowskipleia2: I *think* canonical-sysadmin for getting issues dealt with if thats the issue20:03
pleia2czajkowski: no issues, desire to have a bug-announcey bot came up in #openstack-infra, someone mentioned _mup_ from #juju20:03
czajkowskiah gotcha20:04
pleia2turns out ubottu does similar stuff when it's working properly, and a clone of that is already around20:05
jcastropleia2: afaict mup is in a bunch of ubuntu channels20:05
pleia2jcastro: it should be listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots :)20:06
jcastrooh20:06
jcastroI thought it was an AlanBell thing20:06
AlanBellhmm?20:06
czajkowskihe's the meeting bot20:06
jcastroisn't mup yours?20:06
* AlanBell reads back20:06
jcastropleia2: lol @ that list of bots, thanks for reminding me why I hate IRC, hah.20:07
pleia2:P20:07
AlanBellmup is nothing to do with me20:07
AlanBelljcastro: why does a list of bots remind you why you hate IRC?20:10
jcastrojust seems complicated for no reason to me20:11
czajkowskiyes but jcastro also hates wikis20:12
jcastroand mailing lists!20:12
czajkowskinot much retro stuff he likes bar you know dinosaurs20:13
jcastroyeah, but dinosaurs evolved. The other ones, not so much. :p20:13
AlanBell:)20:13
jcastrothat was a good set up czajkowski, high 5.20:13
czajkowski:)20:13
AlanBellis there any recording of the super sekrit tablet conference call for journalists?20:14
* czajkowski started a new job today \o/20:14
czajkowskiso setting up lots of VMs for testing20:14
czajkowskiam off fizzy drinks so not helping with the old stress :/20:15
czajkowskiHave just found this site http://society6.com/  this may damage my CC - want some new paintings20:19
AlanBellhttp://www.ubuntu.com/static/u/files/section/devices/Ubuntu-tablet-press-release-en.pdf22:15
AlanBellspanish and chinese press releases are there, english missing22:16
popeyno, it isnt22:18
popeyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/static/u/files/section/devices/Ubuntu-tablet-press-release.pdf22:18
AlanBellhttp://www.ubuntu.com/2013/02/press-pack-ubuntu-tablet22:20
popeythanks22:21
popeywill get it fixed22:22
popeyreported22:23
AlanBellthere is actually quite a large amount of media friendly information released22:23
czajkowskiAlanBell: you sound surprised22:24
czajkowski:)22:25
popeyyeah, we're getting better at this22:25
AlanBellwell yeah, it is hidden away in the press section22:26
popeywell the press were given the link22:26
popeyso not hidden for the press22:26
AlanBellhttp://www.ubuntu.com/2013/02/press-pack-ubuntu-tablet/faq has actuall stuff in it though22:27
czajkowskiAlanBell: there ws ne like that for the phone alsp22:27
czajkowskialso22:27
AlanBellhuh, never looked at that, I read all the OEM information22:28
AlanBelldidn't expect there to be more details for journalists than engineers22:29
chilicuilwow, canonical considered spanish as well as chinese, that's cool, thanks!22:29
SergioMeneseschilicuil, :)22:30
AlanBellchilicuil: yeah, I suspect that is significant in terms of the two markets they talked about22:30
SergioMenesesAlanBell, you're right!22:30
AlanBellI expected some engineering stuff to be in chinese, but if the marketing is in chinese/spanish that seems more significant22:31
SergioMenesesLatinAmerica is a huge market for new technology22:33
chilicuilyeah SergioMeneses, world wide richest person is from latinoamerica and what it does is related to technology, it's just that it doesn't have competition22:35
AlanBellyeah, hope they give some clarity on the markets fairly soon so that people will start writing apps22:35
popeysurely all markets need fart apps!?22:35
SergioMeneseschilicuil, sadly you're right but not in all cases22:36
AlanBellnaturally, but if I write a fart app, and the phone only gets released in Brazil I won't get to hear people using it on the train so my motivation for writing it isn't there22:36
AlanBelliFart for iOS and uFart for Ubuntu \o/22:37
SergioMenesesAlanBell, jajaja22:40
SergioMenesesgood one22:40
mhall119AlanBell: plus you'd have to translate them into Portuguese ;)22:45
mhall119nobody's going to be fooled by an English fart in Sao Paulo22:45
AlanBelltrue22:46
chilicuilxD22:46
czajkowskiAlanBell: do you really think they'd honestly design a tablet you couldnt rotate?22:57
AlanBelldunno, have they?22:57
AlanBellnobody has told me that it can rotate when I have asked!22:58
SergioMenesesczajkowski, =O is a true question?22:58
AlanBellnone of the videos show a rotation happening22:58
czajkowskilemmie go and poke22:58
AlanBellall of the phone stuff is portrait, almost all of the tablet stuff is landscape22:58
AlanBellwhat I really think is that if they had a slick "ooh wow, awesome, thats cool!!!" inducing rotation effect then they would have shown it in a video22:59
SergioMenesesAlanBell, or maybe they are working on another amazing video that include the rotation23:00
JanCmhall119: you can buy enterprise support for Debian from HP if your enterprise is large enough...  (and from some other companies too, of course)23:19
mhall119JanC: can you but that support for the ARM version of Debian?23:21
JanCmhall119: HP print servers run Debian, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are ARM-based, and of course they (will) have ARM based server blades too, and of course they have a bunch of in-house ARM experience from the Palm/WebOS team too, so if you are big enough to make it worthwhile, I'm sure they will offer you support on it...  ;)23:31
mhall119JanC: I'm sure they would too23:37
mhall119then again, if you're big enough (and paying enough), I bet even Microsoft would sell you support for Debian on ARM23:38
mhall119but I think we're the only ones currently offering it23:38
mhall119:)23:38
JanCMicrosoft only recently started selling real support at all  :p23:38
mhall119that's good progress though23:40
mhall119maybe they'll sell a real OS soon too ;)23:40
JanCNT isn't all that bad an OS23:40
mhall119I was joking :P23:40
JanCand once upon a time, they sold UNIX  :p23:42
mhall119when was this?23:42
mhall119they has a POSIX compatible layer at one point, I remember23:43
JanCmhall119: late 1970s - early 1980s (and they used Xenix for a *long* time after they sold it)23:44
mhall119oh man, I was barely alive then23:44
mhall119you're making me feel young JanC, and I appreciate that :)23:44
JanCAFAIK all their source code was in version control on Xenix servers, for example, while they were selling "SourceSafe" to customers23:45
JanC(the "Safe" part of SourceSafe needs "" around it)23:46
JanCup until somewhere in the late 1990s23:46
JanC(they never used SourceSafe internally as their main VCS)23:47
JanCmhall119: MS UNIX aka Xenix is actually older than MS-DOS  ☺23:50
mhall119was it system v or bsd?23:52
JanCthey later sold it to SCO (which got bought by Caldera, after which Caldera renamed itself to SCO, and started a bunch of lawsuits... I'm sure you remember *that*)23:53
SergioMenesesok guys! I have to go... see you tomorrow23:53
mhall119heh, Caldera's OpenLinux was my very first distro23:53
JanCthat probably was a long time before they started suing linux users  ☺23:54
mhall119yeah23:54
mhall119I still remember hunting for tulip.so on the CDs so I could get my ethernet card working23:54
JanCand according to Wikipedia the original Xenix was based on UNIX System III23:54
mhall119ah, way WAY back23:55
JanCSystem II + some parts of BSD23:56
JanCSystem III + *23:57

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