[01:48] jono: around? [01:48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lShTMrFVco [01:48] man, the kick drums here ^^^ [01:49] jcastro, nice! [06:14] good morning all [06:18] morning [06:23] I see bkerensa has moved to Europe [06:23] philipballew: this is always my morning [06:24] philipballew: We follow UGT here :) [06:24] ;) [06:24] seems like we follow GMT strictly [06:24] vibhav: working on bugs? [06:24] ;) [06:25] bkerensa, I live in the country of California so thats all I know. [06:25] bkerensa: Indeed [06:25] bkerensa: is that true?, congrats! =) [06:25] vibhav: I should take a break from my wordpress client stuff and do some merges [06:25] chilicuil: mmm [06:26] what is true? [06:26] JoseeAntonioR: if you find out do tell :) [06:27] bkerensa: Though not actually bugs, but I was working on some automated tests for libraries in Ubuntu [06:27] (aka autopkgtest) [06:27] vibhav: ahh.. I think I am going to upgrade some packages and transition some patches upstream [06:27] yay [06:28] bkerensa: nope, can't find [06:28] bkerensa: btw, What is the status on hilighting contributors? [06:28] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-r-dev-tasks-publicity [06:30] vibhav: Me and dholbach need to sync up but I assume the plan is to get back into the regular mix of highlighting contributors on OMG/Fridge/etc [06:30] Yes, the development updates were a big hit [06:31] * vibhav remembers seeing his name on Development updates :) [06:32] Yeah :) we had a difficult time trying to find people who were committed to helping us so it was me and dholbach and because of our time zone difference it fizzled a bit [06:32] I'll be sure to ping him in a hour [06:32] perfect [06:40] vibhav, is UGT Ubuntu Global Time? [06:44] dpm: Universal Greeting Time [06:44] awesome :) [06:45] dpm: Though Ubuntu Global Time sounds better too :D [06:45] :-) [08:01] good morning [08:08] hey dholbach, just wanted to confirm you're doing a hangout today before I go to sleep [08:11] dholbach: I sent you a e-mail about dev contributor highlights... just wanted to ping you before I go to sleep too ;) [08:14] JoseeAntonioR, no, likely not [08:14] dholbach: ok, cancelling, thanks for the heads-up :) [08:14] bkerensa, yes, thanks a lot for that and sorry I didn't reply to your earlier mail - I'm just drowning in stuff to do right now [08:14] bkerensa, I'll reply today - promise [08:14] dholbach: have fun with your stuff, and talk to you later! :) [08:15] JoseeAntonioR, rock on [08:18] JoseeAntonioR, hey [08:18] hey, smartboyhw [08:18] dholbach, do you know what that tablet is about?:P [08:18] smartboyhw, no [08:19] dholbach, srsly? [08:20] gnight folks... keep it FOSSy [08:23] I'm out too, see you later, guys! [08:24] smartboyhw, no, I was surprised by the announce thing too [08:48] dholbach, srsly?:P [08:49] I have a hunch [08:50] dholbach, LOL [08:50] I'm serious [08:50] dholbach, what hunch? [08:50] ... [08:50] Anyone think it will be related to HTC? [08:51] smartboyhw: you're over thinking it [08:51] just wait [08:51] :) [08:51] czajkowski, bah:P [08:51] o/ [08:51] \o/ [09:29] czajkowski, nice to see you in the channel! [09:29] am always here [09:29] just rather busy [09:30] mornings tend to be busy when I catch up with part of my team in AU [09:30] Yes, but have not seen you talk in a few. I am usually sleeping in your afternoon probably. [09:30] ah most likly [09:31] gonna be busier now as also moved roles as well [09:31] so doing LP support and also online services work as well [09:32] oh wow. thats really intense. but, I hope you are enjoying it. [09:33] should keep me busy :) [09:33] and I've a conference I;m running in 2 weeks time [09:34] czajkowski, whats the conference? [09:34] hackntalk [09:34] one day even where people can hack or demo stuff or give a talk [09:34] work in groups [09:34] oh nice! [09:34] or just be in the same room as geeks [09:34] have 42 places gone outta 70 [09:34] exciting! [09:35] yup so am kept well busy in my spare time [09:35] and on a 4 day week this week as have friday off as other half is going to go fly a plane :) [09:36] 42 is the magic number :D [09:36] it's not a bad number tbh [09:36] and I was aiming for 40 [09:36] I'm running the Ubuntu booth for one of the biggest Linux conferences this week. Not as cool, but something [09:36] and will run it every 3-4 months [09:37] philipballew: which one ? [09:37] czajkowski, SCALE [09:41] Its the best Linux Conference that occurs in February and is in California! [10:15] philipballew: http://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/item/31475-ul-to-offer-100-free-place [11:41] hi === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [14:24] hey guys, what time is the announcement? [14:24] shows it's in 1h and a half for me, wasn't it 6pm UTC? [14:26] yeah, 1.5 hours is what i see too [14:28] ah, ok [14:31] 4pm UTC [14:38] * AlanBell wonders if the servers will crash this time [14:39] * AlanBell has credit card out, waiting for the Ubuntu tablet order form to spring into life [14:39] LOL [15:55] -5min [16:00] hahaha 503 Service Unavailable [16:02] urgh [16:02] daker: maybe that's the announcement, it's not available? [16:02] the site become really slow :) [16:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5_4fXQcxFRs [16:06] they're using the pictogram wall as a background! [16:16] I'd buy a google nexus 10 I could dual boot android/ubuntu tomorrow, not holding my breath but it'd be pretty sweet. [16:28] mhall119, setting it up [16:29] mhall119, invite sent [16:32] joining [17:05] jared_, you can dual boot android ubuntu [17:06] balloons: I'm just waiting for google to actually stock my country again :/ They've been out of stock for a few months. I saw the focus on the nexus 7 and hoped the 10 would work just as well [17:06] jared_, to be fair, I only know about the nexus 7: https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom [17:08] balloons: Yeah I was hoping the announcement would start naming names ;) [17:35] "only enterprise Linux to support the ARM platform" on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet/partner ..I guess Debian isn't enterprise? [18:06] jbicha: can you buy enterprise support from Debian? [18:32] mhall119: I know some DDs that will support your Debian deployment :) http://www.debian.org/partners/ [18:32] jbicha: but that's not support from Debian, that's support from DDs [18:46] I think what they mean by enteprise is "is there a company behind it." [18:46] we do this with cloud too, "#1 enterprise cloud OS" but don't count debian. [19:00] JoseeAntonioR, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Hangouts should be up to date now [19:01] dholbach: thanks a lot, will be updating the calendar now [19:02] JoseeAntonioR, hang on [19:02] there's a small mistake [19:02] * JoseeAntonioR waits [19:02] 21 Feb → 22 Feb [19:02] sorry [19:02] at 15 UTC? [19:02] updated [19:02] yes [19:02] same time [19:02] ok! [19:04] dholbach: calendar updated now :) [19:05] yeehaw [19:05] * czajkowski peers at dholbach [19:05] oi oi [19:05] oi yourself! :) [19:05] you're on late mister go make some musik! :) [19:06] yeah, in a bit [19:06] found some GREAT music today [19:06] nuts [19:06] a bit rough, but great tunes: http://www.mixcloud.com/nllovednb/nllovednb-07-fourward/ [19:07] ohhh nice could do with some new tunes [19:10] all right my friends - time to call it a day [19:10] see you all tomorrow! [19:10] toodle pip [19:10] :) [20:00] jcastro: do you know who runs _mup_ in #juju? [20:01] no clue [20:01] pleia2: https://launchpad.net/mup [20:02] czajkowski: sweet, thanks :) [20:02] np [20:03] pleia2: I *think* canonical-sysadmin for getting issues dealt with if thats the issue [20:03] czajkowski: no issues, desire to have a bug-announcey bot came up in #openstack-infra, someone mentioned _mup_ from #juju [20:04] ah gotcha [20:05] turns out ubottu does similar stuff when it's working properly, and a clone of that is already around [20:05] pleia2: afaict mup is in a bunch of ubuntu channels [20:06] jcastro: it should be listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots :) [20:06] oh [20:06] I thought it was an AlanBell thing [20:06] hmm? [20:06] he's the meeting bot [20:06] isn't mup yours? [20:06] * AlanBell reads back [20:07] pleia2: lol @ that list of bots, thanks for reminding me why I hate IRC, hah. [20:07] :P [20:07] mup is nothing to do with me [20:10] jcastro: why does a list of bots remind you why you hate IRC? [20:11] just seems complicated for no reason to me [20:12] yes but jcastro also hates wikis [20:12] and mailing lists! [20:13] not much retro stuff he likes bar you know dinosaurs [20:13] yeah, but dinosaurs evolved. The other ones, not so much. :p [20:13] :) [20:13] that was a good set up czajkowski, high 5. [20:13] :) [20:14] is there any recording of the super sekrit tablet conference call for journalists? [20:14] * czajkowski started a new job today \o/ [20:14] so setting up lots of VMs for testing [20:15] am off fizzy drinks so not helping with the old stress :/ [20:19] Have just found this site http://society6.com/ this may damage my CC - want some new paintings [22:15] http://www.ubuntu.com/static/u/files/section/devices/Ubuntu-tablet-press-release-en.pdf [22:16] spanish and chinese press releases are there, english missing [22:18] no, it isnt [22:18] http://www.ubuntu.com/static/u/files/section/devices/Ubuntu-tablet-press-release.pdf [22:20] http://www.ubuntu.com/2013/02/press-pack-ubuntu-tablet [22:21] thanks [22:22] will get it fixed [22:23] reported [22:23] there is actually quite a large amount of media friendly information released [22:24] AlanBell: you sound surprised [22:25] :) [22:25] yeah, we're getting better at this [22:26] well yeah, it is hidden away in the press section [22:26] well the press were given the link [22:26] so not hidden for the press [22:27] http://www.ubuntu.com/2013/02/press-pack-ubuntu-tablet/faq has actuall stuff in it though [22:27] AlanBell: there ws ne like that for the phone alsp [22:27] also [22:28] huh, never looked at that, I read all the OEM information [22:29] didn't expect there to be more details for journalists than engineers [22:29] wow, canonical considered spanish as well as chinese, that's cool, thanks! [22:30] chilicuil, :) [22:30] chilicuil: yeah, I suspect that is significant in terms of the two markets they talked about [22:30] AlanBell, you're right! [22:31] I expected some engineering stuff to be in chinese, but if the marketing is in chinese/spanish that seems more significant [22:33] LatinAmerica is a huge market for new technology [22:35] yeah SergioMeneses, world wide richest person is from latinoamerica and what it does is related to technology, it's just that it doesn't have competition [22:35] yeah, hope they give some clarity on the markets fairly soon so that people will start writing apps [22:35] surely all markets need fart apps!? [22:36] chilicuil, sadly you're right but not in all cases [22:36] naturally, but if I write a fart app, and the phone only gets released in Brazil I won't get to hear people using it on the train so my motivation for writing it isn't there [22:37] iFart for iOS and uFart for Ubuntu \o/ [22:40] AlanBell, jajaja [22:40] good one [22:45] AlanBell: plus you'd have to translate them into Portuguese ;) [22:45] nobody's going to be fooled by an English fart in Sao Paulo [22:46] true [22:46] xD [22:57] AlanBell: do you really think they'd honestly design a tablet you couldnt rotate? [22:57] dunno, have they? [22:58] nobody has told me that it can rotate when I have asked! [22:58] czajkowski, =O is a true question? [22:58] none of the videos show a rotation happening [22:58] lemmie go and poke [22:58] all of the phone stuff is portrait, almost all of the tablet stuff is landscape [22:59] what I really think is that if they had a slick "ooh wow, awesome, thats cool!!!" inducing rotation effect then they would have shown it in a video [23:00] AlanBell, or maybe they are working on another amazing video that include the rotation [23:19] mhall119: you can buy enterprise support for Debian from HP if your enterprise is large enough... (and from some other companies too, of course) [23:21] JanC: can you but that support for the ARM version of Debian? [23:31] mhall119: HP print servers run Debian, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are ARM-based, and of course they (will) have ARM based server blades too, and of course they have a bunch of in-house ARM experience from the Palm/WebOS team too, so if you are big enough to make it worthwhile, I'm sure they will offer you support on it... ;) [23:37] JanC: I'm sure they would too [23:38] then again, if you're big enough (and paying enough), I bet even Microsoft would sell you support for Debian on ARM [23:38] but I think we're the only ones currently offering it [23:38] :) [23:38] Microsoft only recently started selling real support at all :p [23:40] that's good progress though [23:40] maybe they'll sell a real OS soon too ;) [23:40] NT isn't all that bad an OS [23:40] I was joking :P [23:42] and once upon a time, they sold UNIX :p [23:42] when was this? [23:43] they has a POSIX compatible layer at one point, I remember [23:44] mhall119: late 1970s - early 1980s (and they used Xenix for a *long* time after they sold it) [23:44] oh man, I was barely alive then [23:44] you're making me feel young JanC, and I appreciate that :) [23:45] AFAIK all their source code was in version control on Xenix servers, for example, while they were selling "SourceSafe" to customers [23:46] (the "Safe" part of SourceSafe needs "" around it) [23:46] up until somewhere in the late 1990s [23:47] (they never used SourceSafe internally as their main VCS) [23:50] mhall119: MS UNIX aka Xenix is actually older than MS-DOS ☺ [23:52] was it system v or bsd? [23:53] they later sold it to SCO (which got bought by Caldera, after which Caldera renamed itself to SCO, and started a bunch of lawsuits... I'm sure you remember *that*) [23:53] ok guys! I have to go... see you tomorrow [23:53] heh, Caldera's OpenLinux was my very first distro [23:54] that probably was a long time before they started suing linux users ☺ [23:54] yeah [23:54] I still remember hunting for tulip.so on the CDs so I could get my ethernet card working [23:54] and according to Wikipedia the original Xenix was based on UNIX System III [23:55] ah, way WAY back [23:56] System II + some parts of BSD [23:57] System III + *