[00:44] <jbicha> darkxst: either way sounds fine
[01:04] <jbicha> darkxst: libreoffice or abiword/gnumeric?
[01:45] <darkxst> jbicha, I would go with libreoffice
[01:48] <jbicha> ok, I'm less concerned about iso size now that Xubuntu will be oversize too
[01:49] <jbicha> it looks like there's concensus (and good reasons) for us to go with Firefox & LibreOffice by default for now
[02:13] <darkxst> yeh seems like the best thing to do
[02:14] <darkxst> btw how much bigger does it make the iso?
[02:15] <jbicha> I don't know, I never set aside time to watch my laptop crunch away for a few hours
[02:34] <darkxst> jbicha, the e-d-s patch is *huge* http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=a22972f4bd76a15729e95a7b9cb75021ed2c38af
[02:40] <darkxst> think I will just turn off the strict deprecation checks in g-s
[18:44] <ricotz> jbicha, jfyi update gnome-desktop with care ;)
[18:44] <ricotz> the new gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 will break gnome-shell
[18:59] <jbicha> ricotz: ok, we'll just update all of it at once (gnome-shell, gnome-desktop, & settings-daemon, & control-center)
[19:00] <ricotz> jbicha, mutter hard-depends on cogl 1.13.x
[19:00] <ricotz> i am currently reverting the quite some things to keep it working
[19:03] <jbicha> ok thanks, if everything in raring is ok with cogl 1.13 we could upload to raring to make things easier
[19:04] <ricotz> jbicha, otherwise this might be at show-stopper
[19:04] <jbicha> 2. or we could maintain all the rdepends in the PPA
[19:05] <ricotz> currently reverting 8 mutter commits and 5 clutter commits
[19:05] <ricotz> and 1 gnome-shell for caribou 0.4.8
[19:06] <jbicha> we can do caribou 0.4.8 in raring, right?
[19:06] <ricotz> jbicha, most of the rdeps are gnome packages where we want/have newer versions in the ppa anyway
[19:06] <ricotz> (for cogl that is)
[19:07] <ricotz> jbicha, i guess so (caribou)
[19:08] <ricotz> havent look at it, if it isnt such a mess like gnome-desktop it should be safe
[19:09] <jbicha> oh caribou needs libgee 0.8 which has a soname bump and unity is among its rdepends
[19:10] <ricotz> huh, libgee-0.8 has an soname bump?
[19:10] <ricotz> (libgee and libgee-0.8 are parallel installable)
[19:11] <jbicha> well the debian experimental stuff is named differently
[19:11] <ricotz> LIBGEE_LT_VERSION="4:0:2"
[19:11] <ricotz> looks fine
[19:11] <ricotz> libgee-0.8-2 it is
[19:12] <ricotz> jbicha, ubuntu has a separate source package
[19:12] <ricotz> debian experimental is broken in that regard imo
[19:13] <jbicha> ok I see, never mind then
[19:13] <ricotz> but 0.8.2 is enough for caribou?
[19:13] <ricotz> < that is the actual version
[19:14] <ricotz> (not to be confused with the package name suffix)
[19:15] <jbicha> probably, configure.ac just says gee-0.8
[19:15] <ricotz> ok, then it is fine
[19:27] <ricotz> jbicha, btw, did you ran into trouble like the wallpaper isnt set on startup and not through g-c-c
[19:28] <ricotz> like g-s-d is broken in this matter
[19:29] <ricotz> and of course gtk+2.0 2.24.15 is needed by gnome-themes-standard
[19:31] <jbicha> ricotz: do you have https://launchpadlibrarian.net/130099807/ubuntu-settings_12.10.6_12.10.7.diff.gz installed? I need to explicitly disable that tweak in ubuntu-gnome-settings
[19:31] <jbicha> if you give me a debdiff for gnome-themes-standard 3.6.3 I'll be happy to sponsor it for you
[19:32] <ricotz> jbicha, oh this looks like the trouble
[19:32] <ricotz> jbicha, it will need gtk+2.0 2.24.15 first
[19:32] <jbicha> ah, well we can update that too
[19:32] <ricotz> oh and i meant g-t-s 3.7.x ;)
[20:07] <darkxst> jbicha, can you sponsor my mutter/g-s updates?
[20:14] <darkxst> jbicha, also can you target bug at Quantal as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1128804
[20:14] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1128804 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Update mutter/gnome-shell to 3.6.3" [Undecided,New]
[20:20] <jbicha> darkxst: yes, can you make a debdiff of just the debian/ directory for gnome-shell? it would be a little bit easier for my workflow
[20:20] <darkxst> jbicha, ok
[20:34] <darkxst> jbicha, http://pastebin.com/zqSrADyC
[20:39] <jbicha> the new patch has a few extra lines from the dep3 template but otherwise looks good
[20:44] <darkxst> jbicha, removed
[20:51] <ricotz> darkxst, is calendar-remove-strict-check.patch really needed?
[20:51] <darkxst> ricotz, yes
[20:51] <ricotz> raring or quantal doesnt have e-d-s 3.7.x
[20:52] <darkxst> e-d-s uses a bunch of deprecated api's
[20:52] <darkxst> oh its caused by the glib update
[20:52] <darkxst> s/oh/no/
[20:52] <ricotz> ok
[20:53] <darkxst> previously it would cause a warning, rather than an error
[20:53] <ricotz> right, nevermind
[20:54] <ricotz> i have done the same in the my ppa
[21:22] <darkxst> jbicha, oh btw, you did get my second (split libs) gcr debdiff?
[21:31] <jbicha> darkxst: yes but I've been putting off sponsoring it because it's a bit trickier than a regular upload
[21:31] <darkxst> ok no problem
[21:49] <ricotz> darkxst, when there are x.90 tarballs i will try to take a look
[21:50] <darkxst> ricotz, ok thanks