/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/19/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

rmg51Morning10:29
JonathanDhey.12:13
rmg51o/12:23
rmg51bye12:23
teddy-dbearMorning peoples, dogs and turkeys13:05
InHisNamemorning13:08
InHisNameteddy-dbear: does your greeting not include paulproteus ?13:09
teddy-dbearonly if he fits in13:09
InHisNameprotozoa ?13:09
teddy-dbearis he a people a dog or a turkey?13:10
InHisNamebacteria ?13:10
InHisNamewhat about a log ?13:10
InHisNameor a COT ?13:10
teddy-dbearthat would make him below notice13:10
InHisNameor a Lord ?13:10
teddy-dbearfile them under peoples13:11
InHisNamestump too ?13:11
teddy-dbearif he's not left over tree13:12
* ChinnoDog yawns16:29
InHisNameI used to save ALL my tabs in FireFox to a bookmarks folder.   I can't seem to find that action, Where to look ?16:33
teddy-dbearit should be under bookmarks - bookmark all tabs16:39
MutantTurkeyi'm here I'm a turkey17:18
MutantTurkeyi'd really love to get my blog going as "mutantturkeytalk"17:19
MutantTurkeybut ya know17:19
ChinnoDogThat is too long17:19
ChinnoDogturkeytalk.com <- shorter17:20
ChinnoDogletstalkturkey.com <- just as long but familiar17:21
ChinnoDoggiblets.com <- shortest17:21
MutantTurkeyI mean i already have mutantturkey.com17:25
MutantTurkeyso who cares17:25
ChinnoDogooh. You mean the name of your blog not the  URL17:26
* ChinnoDog nominates "giblets" as a better name17:26
jedijfblogging is hard17:27
ChinnoDogMine is neglected again. I need to develop a habit where I write a post twice a week or something.17:28
InHisNameteddy-dbear: I see it in ubuntu 32 bit 12.10,  but not in ubuntu 64bit 12.10,  Both running firefox 18.02   wow!  The line "bookmark all tabs"   is missing from the 64 bit machine.  All other things being the same.17:28
InHisNameMight that be a setting diff somewhere ?17:29
rmg51this is a 64-bit laptop and it's there17:30
MutantTurkeyweird17:30
MutantTurkeythat weird17:30
rmg51same versions of both17:31
SamuraialbaGood bacon to all and to all some good bacon!18:56
MutantTurkeyokay so I am looking at internet plans21:51
MutantTurkeyany recommendations?21:51
MutantTurkeywhat is Mbps vs actual download rates?21:51
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, google.21:53
waltmanWell, in theory the Mbps IS the actual download rate...21:53
TheLordOfTimeMbps = Megabits.21:53
waltmanper second21:53
TheLordOfTimemhm21:53
TheLordOfTimehttps://www.google.com/search?q=megabits+to+megabytes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb21:53
TheLordOfTimeyes, i know, its firefox searchification, but...21:53
TheLordOfTimestill.21:53
TheLordOfTime15 Mbps in theory is about 1.875MBps21:53
TheLordOfTimeMBps = MegaBytes per second21:54
TheLordOfTimeemphasis on the "in theory" part21:54
MutantTurkeygotcha21:54
TheLordOfTimebecause theory vs. actual is very different.21:54
MutantTurkeyso I want like 4MB/s down and 2/MBs up21:54
waltmanI'm going to give MutantTurkey a pass this time because he just spent the last hour at the open bar after today's engineer's week reception :)21:54
MutantTurkeyis that realistic?21:54
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, outside of a datacenter, no.21:54
MutantTurkeywaltman: nope... because they wouldn't let me21:54
MutantTurkey:[21:54
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, not reliably realistic at least.21:54
waltmanHAH21:54
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, what "plans" are you looking at21:54
MutantTurkeyTheLordOfTime: I mean I have 2/MBs at my house?21:54
MutantTurkeywith FioS21:54
TheLordOfTimeLINK OR DIE21:54
MutantTurkeynone yet, their websites are horrible to navigate21:55
waltmanI get 3 with comcast21:55
MutantTurkeyjust looked at verizon and comcast so far21:55
waltmandown21:55
MutantTurkeyhow much up?21:55
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, what location are you at21:55
MutantTurkeyEast Falls hopefully21:55
TheLordOfTime(also, I get 54Mbps download speeds, theoreticak 6.75MB/s, actual is about 3MB/s21:56
TheLordOfTimebut its not cheapish)21:56
MutantTurkeyTheLordOfTime: I mean why don't they give you actual rates?21:56
MutantTurkeydoesnt that violate the contract?21:56
jedijfMutantTurkey: in the city best bang for buck is comcast21:56
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, probably regional usage at least.21:56
MutantTurkeycomcast has 50mbps @ 60 bucks...21:56
jedijfand i hate comcast21:56
MutantTurkeyjedijf: me too21:56
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, tbh, 54Mbps is the down speed i get on campus.21:56
TheLordOfTimebut its not via Comcast.21:57
MutantTurkeyfios has not gone down once since I moved to it a long tim eago21:57
TheLordOfTimeand campus has a TON of bandwidth at least21:57
MutantTurkeydrexel has me spoiled :p21:57
TheLordOfTimehaving said this, at my apartment, well...21:57
jedijffios is stooopid high in the city proper - a hivemate just went thru this in gtown residence21:57
TheLordOfTime... business calss :P21:57
TheLordOfTimeclass *21:57
jedijfMutantTurkey: long wire21:57
MutantTurkeyI get like 20M/s at drexel21:58
MutantTurkeythe thing is, I don't need TV21:58
MutantTurkeyit's all this bundle crap21:58
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, i get less, but closer to 15MB/s on campus here, at carnegie mellon i had in the range of 30MB/s.21:58
MutantTurkeynice :-)21:58
MutantTurkeyTheLordOfTime: also depends on your test server21:58
TheLordOfTimeat my apartment, its irrelevant, business class :P21:58
MutantTurkeylucky21:58
TheLordOfTimeMutantTurkey, how about the other side of the state? :P21:58
jedijfMutantTurkey: you almost have to take the bundles or you burn dollars21:58
TheLordOfTimeagreed with jedijf21:59
MutantTurkeybut isn't 20megabits 2.5 Megs down?21:59
jedijfmy fios in abington is 15/5 for 55 iirc21:59
MutantTurkeyanyone used clear? I dunno that's an option21:59
JonathanDI was using clear until recently.21:59
MutantTurkeyjedijf: that's exactly what we have21:59
MutantTurkeyJonathanD: and?21:59
JonathanDThen the local tower went away.21:59
MutantTurkeyah21:59
JonathanDand the quality collapsed.22:00
MutantTurkeyJonathanD: I know a field tech, since they were bought things have gone downhill22:00
JonathanDMutantTurkey: completely useless for online gaming but acceptable otherwise.22:00
jedijfMutantTurkey: i have clear that i don't use as a backup - i actually use phone as first backup, clear is now relegated to second on the road internet connection22:00
MutantTurkeyI don't know what i have at home, but I need to check22:01
JonathanDI hate comcast but now we have them.22:01
MutantTurkeyJonathanD: and it's how good or bad?22:01
JonathanDMutantTurkey: clear?22:01
JonathanDor comcast?22:01
MutantTurkeythat and comcast22:01
JonathanDit was pretty good. Ok speeds, not super fast. The latency was the biggest issue.22:01
JonathanDcomcast quality wise has been ok so far.22:01
MutantTurkeyyeah22:01
JonathanDBut they're comcast.22:02
MutantTurkeycomcast has a "Performance" one for 35 a month.. that's 20d/4u22:02
jedijfthat's the win22:02
MutantTurkeyoh dang it's some special.... I dunno22:02
MutantTurkeygah22:02
MutantTurkeyno I am not getting sucked in with a special22:02
JonathanDI had no desire whatsoever for cable but getting it without is nearly impossible.22:02
MutantTurkeyyeah22:03
MutantTurkeycan you still get just basic cable?22:03
JonathanDYeah.22:03
MutantTurkeyever heard of RCN philadelphia?22:04
MutantTurkeyI just googled it and it came up22:04
JonathanDHeard of yes. But thats all.22:04
MutantTurkeythat's 40 a month for 50mb and 6 up22:04
MutantTurkeygah no service in my locatio22:06
MutantTurkeyadsfasfdkj22:12
MutantTurkeyvery infuriating22:12

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