/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/19/#ubuntu-za.txt

Squirmmorning05:42
Kilosmorning all06:01
Kiloshiya maiatoday you missed the meet last night girl06:10
maiatodaysorry Kilos, my schedule has changed and now I have something on on a Monday at 7:15. this clashes with the meeting time :(06:12
Kilosaw sorry to hear that girl06:12
inetprogood morning06:17
Kilosmorning inetpro 06:17
Kilosyo SmilyBorg_w 06:18
SmilyBorg_wmorning06:18
=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg
inetproSmilyBorg: wb06:18
superflymorning Squirm, Kilos, maiatoday, inetpro and SmilyBorg06:22
superflymaiatoday: good to "see" you! :-)06:23
superflyhi ludo06:23
Kiloshi superfly 06:23
Kilosludo doesnt ever answer06:23
Kilossigh06:23
superflyhe used to06:23
superflymorning Vince-006:44
Kiloshi deegee_1 Vince-0 06:45
deegee_1morning all06:50
deegee_1hi Kilos 06:50
Vince-0hi06:57
jrgnsmorning All07:27
Kiloshi jrgns 07:32
Kilosyou missed the meet last noght07:32
Kilosnaughty07:32
Kilosnight07:33
jrgnslol. the wife was sick :( no chance for geekery then!07:33
Kilosaw sorry07:33
jrgnsnp07:33
inetproKilos: eish!08:01
inetproyou gave the wrong link08:01
Kilosoh my08:01
inetproyou gave the json link08:01
Kilosi ghot it from where maa closed08:01
Kilosmaaz08:01
Kilosshould it have been this one sir08:02
Kiloshttp://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-02-18-17-30-02.html08:02
KilosMaaz_, shorten http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-02-18-17-30-02.html08:03
Maaz_Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/xBTRA908:03
Kilosi dunno what json is08:03
inetproKilos: that is better08:04
inetproeven the json link you gave was just wrong08:04
Kilossorry will member next time08:04
Vince-0javaScript object notation ?08:04
Kiloswell that what maaz showed where closing08:04
Kilosfight with him08:04
inetproKilos: always test a link before posting08:05
Kilosok but no online stuff for me till month end08:06
inetprothe link you gace had aa # character vs the encoded %2308:06
inetprogave*08:06
Kilosused too much data with all installs08:06
Kilosis this one right?08:06
Kiloshttp://is.gd/xBTRA908:06
inetprojson files are not readable by normal humanoids08:07
Kiloslol08:08
Kilosok ill send http://is.gd/xBTRA908:08
inetproKilos: yes that is correct08:08
Kilosty sir08:08
Kilosthere have been some new followers. did you see08:09
Kilosthat jozi thing is one08:10
inetproKilos: I have not checked08:44
Kiloshi henkj 09:07
Kiloslo charl_ 09:07
henkjhi Kilos 09:07
* staticrat waves hello09:42
Kilosyo staticrat 09:42
staticrathey kilos, how you doing?09:42
Kiloshaha as i please and you?09:42
staticratgood thx just been rather busy09:43
Kilosgood09:43
Kilosbusy keeps peeps outa trouble09:43
staticratunless you busy making trouble09:44
staticratlol09:44
staticratso what is new?09:45
Kilosyou missed our monthly meeting last night09:48
Kilosdo you tweet?09:48
staticratYa we moved now I dont have internet at home any more, waiting for that to be sorted....i don't tweet09:50
Kilosok invest in 3g09:50
Kiloswe get warnings about meets on twitplace and our mailing list09:51
Kilosoh and anyone that has a pc/lappy and a cellfone has internet connection09:52
Kiloswhew09:52
staticratnot if you live in limpopo09:58
Kilosai!09:58
staticrati have moved to a dead spot not one of the cell networks provide 3G coverage, no telkom lines09:58
Kilosouch that sucks09:59
Kiloswasnt a wise move09:59
staticratbut there is a wireless provider, they will install hopefully this week or nwxt09:59
Kiloslekker09:59
Kiloswhere are you actually thats so retartded10:00
staticratTzaneen10:00
staticratbut I now live in magoebaskloof which is about 15km drive 10:00
Kilosah they had fones on the farms 50 years ago now nothing10:00
Kilosthats no good10:01
Kiloshad family that farmed there when i was a kid10:01
staticratits a nice place this, i like it10:01
Kilosyeah10:02
Kilosmara is near there somewhere10:02
Kilosi forget now10:02
* staticrat needs to go and fix a MS PC now....10:06
Kilosshame10:07
Kilosms not MS10:07
Kilosshouting it hurts my modem10:08
Kiloswb drussell hows things by you?10:23
drussellKilos: good thx, you?10:54
Kilosgood ty drussell 10:54
Kilosapart from old age that is10:55
staticratremmina crashed with SIGSEGV in find_keyboard_layout_in_xorg_rules()11:13
staticratok so Im no linux pro ....yet...so i see this error and go HUH?11:14
staticratmore info: Trying to open remmina remote desktop 11:15
staticratupon launch it says: sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced a problem11:16
Kilossjoe11:18
staticratyip11:18
Kilosthere was another tool. lemme think11:18
Kilossome k thing11:18
Kiloscant you ssh them and run commands that way11:19
staticratwell actually I was hoping to open the app and see how it works, opened it just now for the first time and major fail....11:21
Symmetriado you think oscar is gonna be using paralegals in his defense? *grin*11:21
staticratdude!! 11:21
Symmetriastaticrat oh come on, the guy doesn't have a leg to stand on ;p11:22
staticratIm going to be the better man in this conversation and walk away.......WALK away11:22
Symmetriahahahaha 11:22
staticrathav u seen the nandos ad?11:23
Symmetriaman dude, seriously, the guy shot her 4 times through a bathroom door, with syringes and steroids lying next to his bed11:23
Symmetriahaha nah I aint seen that one11:23
SymmetriaI did hear there was alcohol involved, apparently he was seen coming outta a pub absolutely legless ;p11:23
staticratvery good says: we dont shoot our chicks, we flame grill them11:23
Kiloslol11:23
tonberry352_so he is both crazy and a lousy shot?11:24
Symmetriatonberry lol, she was locked in the bathroom, he put 4 bullets through the door into her11:24
tonberry352_ok doors do complicate matters11:24
Kiloshe will pay inside11:24
Symmetriaheh, I think he misunderstood her when she said he could shoot his load in her face for valentines day ;p11:24
* Symmetria runs11:24
staticratlol11:24
SymmetriaWhat dinosaur has short legs and is easily startled?11:25
SymmetriaOscarpistorius.11:25
staticrathe wont be able to run away from this one11:25
Symmetriastaticrat u gotta feel sorry for the guy11:26
Symmetriathere is no way he got his leg over on valentines day11:26
Symmetria;p11:26
Kilosstaticrat, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/75352011:27
Kilossee if theres a fix there11:27
Symmetriastaticrat...11:27
SymmetriaRoses are red,11:27
SymmetriaViolets are glorious,11:27
SymmetriaDon't try to surprise11:27
SymmetriaOscar Pistorius.11:27
staticratROFL!!!11:28
staticratthx kilos I check it out now11:28
staticratonly in SA 11:29
staticratKilos, so how do I save the changes made to etc/default/keyboard11:35
staticratsays i dont have permission11:36
Kilosah11:36
Kilosstaticrat, how did you make changes?11:37
superflystaticrat: why are you editing a system file instead of your local version?11:37
Kilosgedit nano?11:37
staticratwell the link you send, one chap said The only way to resolve this is -/etc/default/keyboard change XKBLAYOUT="za" to XKBLAYOUT="us"11:38
Kilosstaticrat, listen to superfly 11:38
staticratok11:38
Kiloshes the master11:38
staticratsuperfly, because i dont know better...11:39
Kilosoh thats keyboard layout11:39
superflystaticrat: you can change your keyboard layout in system settings, surely?11:40
Kilosyou didnt go us keyboard on installing11:40
staticratlet me check that...11:40
superflyI know I can in KDE, and I doubt Gnome/Unity would not allow that11:40
staticratmy layout setting is set to english south africa11:42
staticratok cool stuff11:43
staticratchanged the layout to english us and now remmina works11:43
staticratthx superfly and Kilos 11:43
Kilosgood11:44
staticratnow to start using the software....11:44
staticratok so now this cause another error12:03
staticratunity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in atk_object_get_n_accessible_children()12:04
staticratI was working with remmina and changed the colour depth to true colour 32bpp12:07
staticratthen I got the error message as above12:08
drussellKilos: good thanks, how about you?12:41
Kiloshehe drussell you repaeating yourself13:06
Kilos<drussell> Kilos: good thx, you?13:06
Kilos<Kilos> good ty drussell 13:06
Kilos<Kilos> apart from old age that is13:06
Kilosold age catching up i see13:06
charl_good afternoon13:09
charl_hi Kilos13:10
charl_Maaz_: coffee on13:10
* Maaz_ washes some mugs13:10
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charl_!13:14
drussellKilos: ahhhh sorry, was on a train, so must have lost connectivity before I saw your response :o)13:18
Kiloslol13:18
Kilosis that an excuse to get past the kreeping up of old age?13:19
Kiloscreeping13:19
charl_Maaz_: thanks13:31
Maaz_charl_: Okay :-)13:31
drussellKilos: hehe something like that :oD13:55
Symmetriahaha I just got given an o-line on ircnet14:25
* Symmetria wonders wtf he is supposed to do with that ;p14:25
Kiloswhat is it?14:30
Symmetrialol operator rights14:35
Symmetriacross talk between efnet and ircnet, lotta people hold admin rights on both nets14:36
Kilosah14:41
Symmetriahttp://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/34859988.jpg14:49
Symmetriaahahahahahaah14:49
* Squirm looks around15:27
Kiloslo kbmonkey Squirm 15:28
kbmonkeyhi hi15:29
kbmonkeyI notice the ubuntu-za.org "get support" and "get involved" pages duplicate the same information15:31
Kilosget support should show how to get here15:32
Kilosor/and the mailing list15:32
kbmonkeyit shows the irc and mailing list places15:32
Kilosmind you getting involved is similar15:33
kbmonkeyyup15:33
kbmonkeythey lead to the same place15:33
Kilosthe guys that come here and lists get involved helping noobs etc15:33
kbmonkeywe should have one page called "get involved and support"15:34
kbmonkeylol15:34
Kilosoh yeah15:35
kbmonkeywas it quiet here today Kilos ?15:35
Kilosyeah very15:35
kbmonkeyhello ludo15:36
kbmonkeywas super busy at work today. but I managed to eat 4 sarmies. used lots of brain power15:36
Kiloswith fish on?15:37
kbmonkeyno. why fish?15:37
kbmonkeydo I smell?!15:37
Kilosfish is brain food15:38
kbmonkeyhey, I'm not superstitious!15:38
Kilosget to the i+j depot there and get rock cod15:38
Kilossuperstition has nothing to do with it man15:38
Kilosim sure its a known fact15:39
kbmonkeyto hell with i+j, I won't support ocean harvesting15:39
Kiloseeek we gotta eat man15:39
kbmonkeyI'll support harvesting coffee!15:40
Kilosfish is as healthy if not more than red meat15:40
kbmonkeyMaaz_, coffee on15:40
* Maaz_ starts grinding coffee15:40
Kiloslo Mezenir 15:40
kbmonkeyMaaz_, large please15:40
Maaz_kbmonkey: Go get it yourself!15:40
kbmonkeyhello Mezenir 15:40
KilosMaaz_, coffee please15:41
Maaz_Kilos: Righto15:41
KilosMaaz_, large15:41
Maaz_In a beer mug just for you Kilos15:41
kbmonkeyyet there's never beer in these mugs 15:41
Mezenirhey kilos, kbmonkey and all15:42
kbmonkeyMaaz_, large15:42
Maaz_In a beer mug just for you kbmonkey15:42
* inetpro wonders what Canonical have up their sleeves at http://www.ubuntu.com/15:42
kbmonkeywelcome Mezenir! 15:42
Kilosinetpro, find out and tell me man15:43
inetproin less than 20mins from now we should know more15:43
kbmonkeytablet time?15:43
kbmonkeycurious15:43
inetproTick, tock, tablet time!15:43
inetproTick, tock, tablet time! 00:17:3015:44
kbmonkeynow I want to watch the clock reach 00:0015:44
Maaz_Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos!15:44
KilosMaaz_, gracias15:44
Maaz_Kilos: ¡de nada!15:44
kbmonkeyMaaz_, dankie15:44
Maaz_Groot plesier kbmonkey my vriend15:44
kbmonkeyit seems like the timer will reload the page at 00:00:0015:47
kbmonkeywe can't sneak a peek :15:47
kbmonkey:p15:47
kbmonkeythe timer is almost up!16:00
kbmonkeyubuntu.com16:00
kbmonkeyVince-0, I setup a test wikimedia to try out the book creation functionality. it's pretty darn neat.16:02
Kiloshi josvis 16:03
josvishi Kilos16:03
kbmonkeyhello josvis 16:03
josvishi everyone, Im not that important16:04
Kiloseveryone is important16:05
Kilosto someone anyway16:05
josvisI feel at home16:06
Vince-0heyo16:06
Kilosyeah me too this is home16:06
Kilosfriendliest channel on irc16:07
kbmonkeythere is no place like ~/16:07
Kiloshelp channel that is16:07
Vince-0kbmonkey, is that William? 16:08
Vince-0I'm bad with names16:08
josvisI made a few notes last night on your jargon. What does "wb" mean?16:09
kbmonkeynope, its Wesley16:09
Cantidewhat's happening on Ubuntu.com?16:10
Cantidei can't access it right now16:10
Vince-0oh crap, bad with nicks16:10
Cantideand hello :)16:10
Vince-0Cantide, speculation about an HTC tablet announcement16:10
Kiloswelcome back josvis 16:10
Kilosnormally used after one has lost connection or gone on hols16:11
Cantideyeah, i saw the news on OMG! Ubuntu16:11
Cantidehey Kilos :)16:11
Kiloslo Cantide 16:11
KilosVince-0, who are you?16:12
Kilosoh you told maaz last night16:12
Vince-0I did16:12
Vince-0?16:12
Vince-0Maaz. who am I16:12
Maaz_Vince-0: Huh?16:12
Kilosyou didnt log in with maaz at the meeting16:14
Kilosnaughty16:14
Vince-0oh noes, I was inbetween a few things here16:14
Vince-0and a bit los kop16:15
Kilosa bit?16:16
Kilosok login with us now16:16
Vince-0loose headed16:16
Kilosfull name and address16:16
Vince-0lols16:16
Kiloshehe16:16
Kiloswwk?16:17
kbmonkeyhey Kilos, no asl here please ;P16:17
Kiloshuh?16:17
kbmonkeywow that ubuntu for tablets looks amazing. now _that_ is what unity is good for.16:17
Vince-0register?16:17
Kilosno man im nosy to know16:17
cocooncrashMaaz_: change nick to Maaz16:18
=== Maaz_ is now known as Maaz
Maazcocooncrash: Changing nick to Maaz16:18
Kilosyou one of the list guys i spose16:18
Kiloshi cocooncrash  ty16:18
cocooncrashMaaz: grant admin to inetpro when authed16:18
Maazcocooncrash: Yessir16:18
Kiloscocooncrash, he also has them burp probs back again16:19
cocooncrashKilos: Eh?16:20
Cantidekbmonkey, yeah, it does look nice :) i almost want a tablet now :p16:20
Kiloswhen asking something he says burp that didnt go down well with me16:20
Vince-0multi-tasking is whats missing on tablets16:21
charl_just saw that south africa also has eduroam, although it seems like only two universities are participating http://www.eduroam.ac.za/16:23
kbmonkeywow, this wysiwyg editor on ubuntu-za is kinda buggy.16:25
kbmonkeybut it works16:26
tumbleweedcocooncrash: Kilos said in private that it was the weather plugin16:26
tumbleweedcocooncrash: we reaaaaly need to get an Ibid release out :/16:26
cocooncrashtumbleweed: Ah16:26
tumbleweed(and other things, apparently)16:27
tumbleweedbut other things is less helpful :P16:27
* tumbleweed -> clug dinner16:27
Kilosenjoy16:27
tumbleweedre global jam - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2246/detail/16:27
kbmonkeyarg, it lost some of my changes. 16:28
* kbmonkey applies head to desk16:28
Kiloshehe softly hey16:28
Kilosjosvis, wb16:29
Cantideare there any workshops held to teach people how to develop for Ubuntu16:31
Cantideor some kind of Ubuntu coding frenzy that one can attend16:31
Cantideis that what the Global Jam is?16:32
Kilosyou missed one a few weeks back Cantide 16:32
Cantideoh :/16:32
Kiloson ubuntu-classroom16:32
Cantide,_,16:32
Kilosusing quickly16:32
* Cantide quickly weeps16:32
Kilosmaybe someone saved the info16:32
Cantidetis okay16:33
Kilosmaybe i did16:33
Cantidei don't have time right now16:33
Cantidebut in a few weeks / months i will have a lot of free time16:33
Cantideand i'd like to learn how to code for ubuntu16:33
Kilosnp will take long to find anyway16:33
Cantidelol16:33
Kilosthats what it was all about16:33
Kiloshow to write apps for ubuntu16:33
Cantidenice16:35
Cantidehow does the global jam differ?16:35
Cantideis the global jam for people who already can16:35
Kilosi dunno16:35
Cantideand the ubuntu-classroom for those who want to learn?16:35
Cantideoh .-.16:35
Kilosclassroom is /j #ubuntu-classroom16:36
Cantidedis baie warm in Durban ,_,16:36
* Cantide melts16:36
Cantideah :)16:36
Cantidethanks :)16:36
Cantidei mean dankie :p16:36
Kilosyw16:37
kbmonkeyoh, there goes the bell. time to do some chores, bbl...16:37
Kilosone could even ask there for the link to the logs off the how to write ubuntu apps16:37
Kilostoods kbmonkey 16:37
Vince-0watching Ubuntu tablet tour with Shuttleworthy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h384z7Ph0gU16:38
Cantideoh, and ubuntu stores the logs :)16:38
CantideVince-0, thanks :)16:38
Kilosthere are irc logs of all the channels methinks16:38
Cantideyeah16:45
Kiloshere it is http://slexy.org/view/s2Xb6YiCCK16:46
CantideVince-0, i like the end of that video16:46
Cantideit really becomes apparent what Canonical is trying to do with Ubuntu16:46
Cantidethanks, Kilos :)16:47
Vince-0check the phone in tablet dock - ala Asus16:47
Kilosyw. hope i got it all16:47
CantideKilos, i will figure out whatever is missing16:54
Kilosgood16:54
Cantideit's actually really basic, based on what i just read :)16:54
Kiloswas an interesting class16:54
CantideVince-0, yeah, haha i also noticed that :p16:54
Kilosyeah looked quite easy for someone who knows about writing stuff16:54
Cantideyup16:55
Cantidei just need to learn some python16:55
Cantideand then it will be really easy16:56
Vince-0me316:56
Cantidebut i assume it won't be hard to pick up16:56
Kilosthe trick will be in coming up with a good app no one else has done yet and one that everyone wants16:57
Cantideyeah16:57
Cantideit works well when you have a need and can't find an app to fulfill that need16:58
Cantidebecause then you're effectively making something for yourself16:58
Kilosyeah16:59
Kilosi go eat16:59
* Kilos >supper16:59
Kiloshehe16:59
inetprothanks cocooncrash17:13
Kilosah maaz is fixed ty cocooncrash 17:26
KilosMaaz, weather in pretoria17:27
MaazKilos: In Pretoria, South Africa at 6:35 PM SAST on February 19, 2013: 25°C; Humidity: 50%; Wind: SSW at 13 km/h; Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain; Sunrise/set: 5:55 AM SAST/6:46 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 2:02 PM SAST/12:12 AM SAST17:27
Kiloswe gonna sweat tomorrow17:29
Kilos36°c17:29
Cantideo_O17:32
CantideMaaz, weather in Durban17:32
MaazCantide: In La Mercy, South Africa at 7:00 PM SAST on February 19, 2013: 25°C; Humidity: 94%; Wind: NE at 17 km/h; Conditions: Clear; Sunrise/set: 5:39 AM SAST/6:39 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 2:00 PM SAST/17:32
Cantide94% 'o'17:32
Symmetriahttp://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2299/b54ece3c7fa74cd3920112c98452918f.jpg17:33
Symmetriahahahahah17:33
Symmetriaoh man thats hilarious17:33
Vince-0jeepers17:33
Symmetriahahahaaahah man what a screwup17:34
Symmetriaoutsurance is crying foul saying it wasn't their fault as well17:34
Cantidewill 13.04 use QT instead of GTK?17:37
kbmonkeyyes it is very humid in Durban. Can feel it in my brain.17:37
tumbleweedCantide: it's for people who want to do it, beginners or experienced developers17:38
Cantidetumbleweed, the global jam?17:38
tumbleweedCantide: yes17:38
Cantideoh, nice :) so a beginner wouldn't be shunned there17:38
Cantideand how does it work - it is a gathering IRL, or online?17:39
tumbleweednot at all, everyone has to be a beginner at some point17:39
kbmonkeythanks for that email on 3G Kilos. my sakis3g is also working nicely17:40
kbmonkeythanks to you17:40
tumbleweedCantide: IRL - look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek if you want an online event17:40
Kilosyeah sakis is good just thought it might help if you cant get online to download sakis17:40
Cantidetumbleweed, cool :) and where is it held?17:41
Kilosi think trix said his new one has an auto connect in if signal drops too17:41
tumbleweedCantide: are you not on the ubuntu-za mailing list?17:41
tumbleweedI posted https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2013-February/010219.html this evening17:42
CantideI am... i may have archived some things..17:42
Cantideooooh yeah, i read that earlier17:42
Cantidesorry :/17:42
tumbleweedsorry, I didn't say what it was about at all, in the mail17:43
Cantidewhen i saw the second link i assumed it was online17:43
Cantideoh, CT :'(17:44
Cantidekbmonkey, let's throw a party ._.17:44
Cantidetumbleweed, thanks for the info :)17:45
Cantidei am AFK now :)17:46
kbmonkeya party Cantide? I'll bring cupcakes!17:50
Symmetriahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0bk3gsv1gA <=== oh god there are some crazy people in this world18:04
Vince-0jeebers18:07
Cantidei want to click :'(18:08
Cantidebut my bandwidth says no :(18:08
Vince-0dont bother18:09
Vince-0its a crock lol18:09
Cantidelol18:09
Symmetriahahahahaha18:09
Symmetriaits hilarious18:10
Symmetriapsy is impersonating the anti-christ in gangnam style don't you know18:10
Symmetria;p18:10
Cantidehahahaha18:19
Cantidei'm sure that's what he was going for :p18:19
Symmetriahaha the same dude claims that the pope resigning18:21
Symmetriawas fulfillment of the gangnam style prophecy18:21
Symmetria;p18:21
Cantide:D :D :D18:22
Cantidegood night :p18:22
charl_good evening18:34
charl_hi smile4ever 18:34
Kiloshi smile4ever charl_ 18:34
Squirmhenkj18:39
charl_hi Kilos 18:43
* Squirm looks around18:44
kbmonkeyhello18:45
charl_hi kbmonkey, Squirm 18:45
smile4everhi charl_ & Kilos18:45
magespawnevening all18:54
Kiloshi magespawn 18:54
kbmonkeyhi there18:54
magespawnwhat up y'all?18:54
Kilosnill18:54
Kilosquiet day18:54
kbmonkeyit feels like a monday18:55
charl_apparently the xfce flavour of linux mint does not deem ot necessary to go to standby mode when you close a laptop's lid18:56
charl_it only switches off the screen18:56
charl_so this morning i closed my laptop and threw it into my bag, at around noon it was dead18:56
charl_battery entirely drained18:56
charl_only realised then that the default behaviour is off18:56
kbmonkeyeish18:57
kbmonkey:p18:57
magespawni thought there was a hardware switch that does that when you close the laptop?18:57
charl_there is probably a setting but you would think these things would come pretty standard18:57
charl_magespawn: no it's software controlled18:57
magespawnahh standard like no screen saver installed in kubuntu18:58
charl_screen saver? people still use those?18:58
charl_we all have lcd monitors now18:58
magespawninternet cafe, if the scrren just blanks people think it is off18:59
magespawnscreen even18:59
charl_not very green though :P18:59
charl_i'm sure you could install some screen savers as optional packages18:59
magespawnrunning a laptop in a bag could result in problems19:00
charl_for one, heat19:00
charl_that's how i discovered it at first19:00
magespawnyes lots of choice when you go looking for them19:00
charl_actually there are probably no other major problems19:00
charl_anyway, i stuck my hand into my bag to take out some tea and i thought "wait why is the bag hot inside"19:00
charl_fortunately it's still winter so it isn't so hot19:02
Kilosnight guys sleep tight19:03
kbmonkeyknight kilos19:03
charl_night Kilos 19:03
magespawncheers Kilos 19:03
Kiloslol19:03
inetprogood night Kilos19:03
magespawnthat would be Sir to you kbmonkey 19:04
kbmonkeythat happened before charl_. I think the lid lifted slightly and it woke up, as I put it in the bag :p19:04
charl_hmmm, it could happen19:05
charl_but yeah, only "damage" being i (almost) entirely drained a lithium-ion battery19:06
charl_but i guess that's not the worst19:06
kbmonkeytoday the humidity here is 94%19:06
charl_i don't really use the battery much anyway, just while it's in sleep mode while it's in the bag19:06
charl_when i take it out i almost immediately plug it in in any case19:06
charl_i only use it on battery when i'm in the train for example19:07
charl_and that isn't frequent19:07
kbmonkeythat is okay then. just set your on-battery sleep time.19:10
kbmonkeythe wind is howling, it will storm soon19:11
magespawnsend it on up here19:12
magespawnhow do i check logs, specifically auth, on a server?19:14
kbmonkeyin /var/log/auth.log magespawn, is that what you looking for?19:15
kbmonkeyhey, mine shows repeated attempts for failed root logins from an IP. hmmm.19:16
magespawnyes i need to bring it up in a terminal19:16
magespawnwould google but net is slower than molasses in antartica19:17
charl_kbmonkey: that is perfectly normal19:17
charl_magespawn: you're on the south pole?!19:17
charl_say hi to the penguins :)19:18
magespawnno but internet ways i might as well be19:18
charl_eh ok19:18
kbmonkeyI'm not sure this is normal charl_ 19:19
kbmonkeythis is what I see: http://pastebin.com/mJX9vEAA19:20
charl_clearly an exploited server19:21
charl_i got that all the time too until i changed my ssh port to a non-standard number...19:21
charl_are you running your ssh on port 22?19:22
charl_it's a turkish web hosting company19:22
kbmonkeyyes but I have password authentication disabled. use gpg keys.19:22
charl_i see you are using allowed users - that is good (i do it too)19:22
kbmonkeyah, perhaps I will change the port anyway19:22
charl_gpg keys? you mean rsa/dsa keys?19:23
kbmonkeyyup. I went on a ssh/gpg buzz a while ago. learnt a lot :)19:23
charl_oh interesting, i just use dsa, never tried gpg19:23
kbmonkeyyes, I mean key pair authentication19:23
charl_i generate a keypair with ssh-keygen19:23
charl_i only use gpg for file encryption19:23
kbmonkeyyeah, my bad, I used the wrong name19:24
charl_oh ok np, i was just curious cause i didn't know you could do that :)19:25
magespawnpage finally loaded grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less19:25
kbmonkeyI call them the same, technically they both use priv/pub key pairs. gpg is just geared for files/text, ssh for authentication19:25
charl_a lot of things use ppk, ssl too19:26
kbmonkeyI should sign more emails. don't really know other people who do.19:26
kbmonkeyI could report this attempt with anyone?19:27
charl_i know a few hard-core people that do, i don't though19:27
charl_you could contact the web host company and hope to get through to somebody who speaks english19:28
charl_personally i used to get so many of them i wouldn't even bother19:28
charl_would become a full time job to keep up19:29
kbmonkeydefinitely. glad I'm a fan of strong passwords XD19:30
kbmonkeyhere comes the rain19:31
charl_the only thing i use right now for email is spf, i don't even bother with dkim19:31
charl_does anyone here use dkim?19:31
charl_i had opendkim running at one point but it was a mess to configure and there wasn't clarity (at the time) regarding the dns records19:31
magespawncharl_: never heard of it19:31
magespawnkbmonkey: i have similar entries19:32
kbmonkeynever heard of those before charl_ 19:32
charl_had to manually configure it to work with postfix on ubuntu etc, which i guess wasn't so bad, but it needed some serious googling and figuring out19:32
charl_i think spf is important but dkim is still an optional, but there are some people who are pushing for it19:32
smile4everbye :)19:35
charl_ciao smile4ever 19:35
kbmonkeycheers smile4ever 19:35
kbmonkeynext time come tell us of the homework :)19:35
smile4evergood night :)19:35
smile4everkbmonkey: lol, no, wikipedia :p19:35
smile4ever:)19:35
smile4everand google reader19:35
smile4evergood night19:35
charl_i'm off as well, ciao all19:36
kbmonkeywell magespawn at least the sshd_conf login grace time is set to 120 seconds.19:37
kbmonkeydo you have password authentication on?19:37
magespawnyes19:37
magespawnnever got round to setting up keys19:37
kbmonkeyperhaps look into it one day. it should not take very long either.19:39
magespawnindeed19:42
magespawnperson was persistant and from more than one ip and trying multiple ports19:48
kbmonkeyits likely a scanner going through a list of IP's and ports systematically19:49
magespawnwonder what will happen if i scan them back?19:54
kbmonkeylol19:55
magespawnhave backtrack running on an old laptop19:57
kbmonkey'netstat --tcp' is quiet useful19:58
magespawncool19:59
kbmonkeyis it right that i have smtp listening?20:00
kbmonkeynetstat -l20:00
magespawnon your server?20:01
kbmonkeyno, on my laptop20:02
magespawnit is needed for sending/recieving mail, i think20:04
magespawnsimple mail transfer protocol20:04
kbmonkeyah, okay using the --programs parameters, I see there is no process using it at the moment.20:05
kbmonkeymakes sense, actually. maybe my brain is awake for too long today.20:06
magespawnlol20:07
zerefzooommmm20:13
magespawnhey zeref20:19
kbmonkeybuzzzzz20:20
magespawnlater all bed time20:20
kbmonkeygn magespawn 20:21
kbmonkeyneed more time in the day. eyes are tired, need to revive vision.20:21
kbmonkeytap and pay 4 to regenerate vision20:22
zerefhey magespawn 20:30
superflykbmonkey: were you also awake all night last night? :-P20:51
kbmonkeynot all night but later than need be ._.20:54
kbmonkeynight all. happy Z's.21:06
Vince-0YaAarn Im out21:29
zerefany late night owl here23:55

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