[05:42] <Squirm> morning
[06:01] <Kilos> morning all
[06:10] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday you missed the meet last night girl
[06:12] <maiatoday> sorry Kilos, my schedule has changed and now I have something on on a Monday at 7:15. this clashes with the meeting time :(
[06:12] <Kilos> aw sorry to hear that girl
[06:17] <inetpro> good morning
[06:17] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[06:18] <Kilos> yo SmilyBorg_w 
[06:18] <SmilyBorg_w> morning
[06:18] <inetpro> SmilyBorg: wb
[06:22] <superfly> morning Squirm, Kilos, maiatoday, inetpro and SmilyBorg
[06:23] <superfly> maiatoday: good to "see" you! :-)
[06:23] <superfly> hi ludo
[06:23] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:23] <Kilos> ludo doesnt ever answer
[06:23] <Kilos> sigh
[06:23] <superfly> he used to
[06:44] <superfly> morning Vince-0
[06:45] <Kilos> hi deegee_1 Vince-0 
[06:50] <deegee_1> morning all
[06:50] <deegee_1> hi Kilos 
[06:57] <Vince-0> hi
[07:27] <jrgns> morning All
[07:32] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:32] <Kilos> you missed the meet last noght
[07:32] <Kilos> naughty
[07:33] <Kilos> night
[07:33] <jrgns> lol. the wife was sick :( no chance for geekery then!
[07:33] <Kilos> aw sorry
[07:33] <jrgns> np
[08:01] <inetpro> Kilos: eish!
[08:01] <inetpro> you gave the wrong link
[08:01] <Kilos> oh my
[08:01] <inetpro> you gave the json link
[08:01] <Kilos> i ghot it from where maa closed
[08:01] <Kilos> maaz
[08:02] <Kilos> should it have been this one sir
[08:02] <Kilos> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-02-18-17-30-02.html
[08:03] <Kilos> Maaz_, shorten http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-02-18-17-30-02.html
[08:03] <Maaz_> Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/xBTRA9
[08:03] <Kilos> i dunno what json is
[08:04] <inetpro> Kilos: that is better
[08:04] <inetpro> even the json link you gave was just wrong
[08:04] <Kilos> sorry will member next time
[08:04] <Vince-0> javaScript object notation ?
[08:04] <Kilos> well that what maaz showed where closing
[08:04] <Kilos> fight with him
[08:05] <inetpro> Kilos: always test a link before posting
[08:06] <Kilos> ok but no online stuff for me till month end
[08:06] <inetpro> the link you gace had aa # character vs the encoded %23
[08:06] <inetpro> gave*
[08:06] <Kilos> used too much data with all installs
[08:06] <Kilos> is this one right?
[08:06] <Kilos> http://is.gd/xBTRA9
[08:07] <inetpro> json files are not readable by normal humanoids
[08:08] <Kilos> lol
[08:08] <Kilos> ok ill send http://is.gd/xBTRA9
[08:08] <inetpro> Kilos: yes that is correct
[08:08] <Kilos> ty sir
[08:09] <Kilos> there have been some new followers. did you see
[08:10] <Kilos> that jozi thing is one
[08:44] <inetpro> Kilos: I have not checked
[09:07] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[09:07] <Kilos> lo charl_ 
[09:07] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[09:42]  * staticrat waves hello
[09:42] <Kilos> yo staticrat 
[09:42] <staticrat> hey kilos, how you doing?
[09:42] <Kilos> haha as i please and you?
[09:43] <staticrat> good thx just been rather busy
[09:43] <Kilos> good
[09:43] <Kilos> busy keeps peeps outa trouble
[09:44] <staticrat> unless you busy making trouble
[09:44] <staticrat> lol
[09:45] <staticrat> so what is new?
[09:48] <Kilos> you missed our monthly meeting last night
[09:48] <Kilos> do you tweet?
[09:50] <staticrat> Ya we moved now I dont have internet at home any more, waiting for that to be sorted....i don't tweet
[09:50] <Kilos> ok invest in 3g
[09:51] <Kilos> we get warnings about meets on twitplace and our mailing list
[09:52] <Kilos> oh and anyone that has a pc/lappy and a cellfone has internet connection
[09:52] <Kilos> whew
[09:58] <staticrat> not if you live in limpopo
[09:58] <Kilos> ai!
[09:58] <staticrat> i have moved to a dead spot not one of the cell networks provide 3G coverage, no telkom lines
[09:59] <Kilos> ouch that sucks
[09:59] <Kilos> wasnt a wise move
[09:59] <staticrat> but there is a wireless provider, they will install hopefully this week or nwxt
[09:59] <Kilos> lekker
[10:00] <Kilos> where are you actually thats so retartded
[10:00] <staticrat> Tzaneen
[10:00] <staticrat> but I now live in magoebaskloof which is about 15km drive 
[10:00] <Kilos> ah they had fones on the farms 50 years ago now nothing
[10:01] <Kilos> thats no good
[10:01] <Kilos> had family that farmed there when i was a kid
[10:01] <staticrat> its a nice place this, i like it
[10:02] <Kilos> yeah
[10:02] <Kilos> mara is near there somewhere
[10:02] <Kilos> i forget now
[10:06]  * staticrat needs to go and fix a MS PC now....
[10:07] <Kilos> shame
[10:07] <Kilos> ms not MS
[10:08] <Kilos> shouting it hurts my modem
[10:23] <Kilos> wb drussell hows things by you?
[10:54] <drussell> Kilos: good thx, you?
[10:54] <Kilos> good ty drussell 
[10:55] <Kilos> apart from old age that is
[11:13] <staticrat> remmina crashed with SIGSEGV in find_keyboard_layout_in_xorg_rules()
[11:14] <staticrat> ok so Im no linux pro ....yet...so i see this error and go HUH?
[11:15] <staticrat> more info: Trying to open remmina remote desktop 
[11:16] <staticrat> upon launch it says: sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced a problem
[11:18] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:18] <staticrat> yip
[11:18] <Kilos> there was another tool. lemme think
[11:18] <Kilos> some k thing
[11:19] <Kilos> cant you ssh them and run commands that way
[11:21] <staticrat> well actually I was hoping to open the app and see how it works, opened it just now for the first time and major fail....
[11:21] <Symmetria> do you think oscar is gonna be using paralegals in his defense? *grin*
[11:21] <staticrat> dude!! 
[11:22] <Symmetria> staticrat oh come on, the guy doesn't have a leg to stand on ;p
[11:22] <staticrat> Im going to be the better man in this conversation and walk away.......WALK away
[11:22] <Symmetria> hahahaha 
[11:23] <staticrat> hav u seen the nandos ad?
[11:23] <Symmetria> man dude, seriously, the guy shot her 4 times through a bathroom door, with syringes and steroids lying next to his bed
[11:23] <Symmetria> haha nah I aint seen that one
[11:23] <Symmetria> I did hear there was alcohol involved, apparently he was seen coming outta a pub absolutely legless ;p
[11:23] <staticrat> very good says: we dont shoot our chicks, we flame grill them
[11:23] <Kilos> lol
[11:24] <tonberry352_> so he is both crazy and a lousy shot?
[11:24] <Symmetria> tonberry lol, she was locked in the bathroom, he put 4 bullets through the door into her
[11:24] <tonberry352_> ok doors do complicate matters
[11:24] <Kilos> he will pay inside
[11:24] <Symmetria> heh, I think he misunderstood her when she said he could shoot his load in her face for valentines day ;p
[11:24]  * Symmetria runs
[11:24] <staticrat> lol
[11:25] <Symmetria> What dinosaur has short legs and is easily startled?
[11:25] <Symmetria> Oscarpistorius.
[11:25] <staticrat> he wont be able to run away from this one
[11:26] <Symmetria> staticrat u gotta feel sorry for the guy
[11:26] <Symmetria> there is no way he got his leg over on valentines day
[11:26] <Symmetria> ;p
[11:27] <Kilos> staticrat, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/753520
[11:27] <Kilos> see if theres a fix there
[11:27] <Symmetria> staticrat...
[11:27] <Symmetria> Roses are red,
[11:27] <Symmetria> Violets are glorious,
[11:27] <Symmetria> Don't try to surprise
[11:27] <Symmetria> Oscar Pistorius.	
[11:28] <staticrat> ROFL!!!
[11:28] <staticrat> thx kilos I check it out now
[11:29] <staticrat> only in SA 
[11:35] <staticrat> Kilos, so how do I save the changes made to etc/default/keyboard
[11:36] <staticrat> says i dont have permission
[11:36] <Kilos> ah
[11:37] <Kilos> staticrat, how did you make changes?
[11:37] <superfly> staticrat: why are you editing a system file instead of your local version?
[11:37] <Kilos> gedit nano?
[11:38] <staticrat> well the link you send, one chap said The only way to resolve this is -/etc/default/keyboard change XKBLAYOUT="za" to XKBLAYOUT="us"
[11:38] <Kilos> staticrat, listen to superfly 
[11:38] <staticrat> ok
[11:38] <Kilos> hes the master
[11:39] <staticrat> superfly, because i dont know better...
[11:39] <Kilos> oh thats keyboard layout
[11:40] <superfly> staticrat: you can change your keyboard layout in system settings, surely?
[11:40] <Kilos> you didnt go us keyboard on installing
[11:40] <staticrat> let me check that...
[11:40] <superfly> I know I can in KDE, and I doubt Gnome/Unity would not allow that
[11:42] <staticrat> my layout setting is set to english south africa
[11:43] <staticrat> ok cool stuff
[11:43] <staticrat> changed the layout to english us and now remmina works
[11:43] <staticrat> thx superfly and Kilos 
[11:44] <Kilos> good
[11:44] <staticrat> now to start using the software....
[12:03] <staticrat> ok so now this cause another error
[12:04] <staticrat> unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in atk_object_get_n_accessible_children()
[12:07] <staticrat> I was working with remmina and changed the colour depth to true colour 32bpp
[12:08] <staticrat> then I got the error message as above
[12:41] <drussell> Kilos: good thanks, how about you?
[13:06] <Kilos> hehe drussell you repaeating yourself
 Kilos: good thx, you?
 good ty drussell 
 apart from old age that is
[13:06] <Kilos> old age catching up i see
[13:09] <charl_> good afternoon
[13:10] <charl_> hi Kilos
[13:10] <charl_> Maaz_: coffee on
[13:10]  * Maaz_ washes some mugs
[13:14] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[13:18] <drussell> Kilos: ahhhh sorry, was on a train, so must have lost connectivity before I saw your response :o)
[13:18] <Kilos> lol
[13:19] <Kilos> is that an excuse to get past the kreeping up of old age?
[13:19] <Kilos> creeping
[13:31] <charl_> Maaz_: thanks
[13:31] <Maaz_> charl_: Okay :-)
[13:55] <drussell> Kilos: hehe something like that :oD
[14:25] <Symmetria> haha I just got given an o-line on ircnet
[14:25]  * Symmetria wonders wtf he is supposed to do with that ;p
[14:30] <Kilos> what is it?
[14:35] <Symmetria> lol operator rights
[14:36] <Symmetria> cross talk between efnet and ircnet, lotta people hold admin rights on both nets
[14:41] <Kilos> ah
[14:49] <Symmetria> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/34859988.jpg
[14:49] <Symmetria> ahahahahahaah
[15:27]  * Squirm looks around
[15:28] <Kilos> lo kbmonkey Squirm 
[15:29] <kbmonkey> hi hi
[15:31] <kbmonkey> I notice the ubuntu-za.org "get support" and "get involved" pages duplicate the same information
[15:32] <Kilos> get support should show how to get here
[15:32] <Kilos> or/and the mailing list
[15:32] <kbmonkey> it shows the irc and mailing list places
[15:33] <Kilos> mind you getting involved is similar
[15:33] <kbmonkey> yup
[15:33] <kbmonkey> they lead to the same place
[15:33] <Kilos> the guys that come here and lists get involved helping noobs etc
[15:34] <kbmonkey> we should have one page called "get involved and support"
[15:34] <kbmonkey> lol
[15:35] <Kilos> oh yeah
[15:35] <kbmonkey> was it quiet here today Kilos ?
[15:35] <Kilos> yeah very
[15:36] <kbmonkey> hello ludo
[15:36] <kbmonkey> was super busy at work today. but I managed to eat 4 sarmies. used lots of brain power
[15:37] <Kilos> with fish on?
[15:37] <kbmonkey> no. why fish?
[15:37] <kbmonkey> do I smell?!
[15:38] <Kilos> fish is brain food
[15:38] <kbmonkey> hey, I'm not superstitious!
[15:38] <Kilos> get to the i+j depot there and get rock cod
[15:38] <Kilos> superstition has nothing to do with it man
[15:39] <Kilos> im sure its a known fact
[15:39] <kbmonkey> to hell with i+j, I won't support ocean harvesting
[15:39] <Kilos> eeek we gotta eat man
[15:40] <kbmonkey> I'll support harvesting coffee!
[15:40] <Kilos> fish is as healthy if not more than red meat
[15:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, coffee on
[15:40]  * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee
[15:40] <Kilos> lo Mezenir 
[15:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, large please
[15:40] <Maaz_> kbmonkey: Go get it yourself!
[15:40] <kbmonkey> hello Mezenir 
[15:41] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee please
[15:41] <Maaz_> Kilos: Righto
[15:41] <Kilos> Maaz_, large
[15:41] <Maaz_> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[15:41] <kbmonkey> yet there's never beer in these mugs 
[15:42] <Mezenir> hey kilos, kbmonkey and all
[15:42] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, large
[15:42] <Maaz_> In a beer mug just for you kbmonkey
[15:42]  * inetpro wonders what Canonical have up their sleeves at http://www.ubuntu.com/
[15:42] <kbmonkey> welcome Mezenir! 
[15:43] <Kilos> inetpro, find out and tell me man
[15:43] <inetpro> in less than 20mins from now we should know more
[15:43] <kbmonkey> tablet time?
[15:43] <kbmonkey> curious
[15:43] <inetpro> Tick, tock, tablet time!
[15:44] <inetpro> Tick, tock, tablet time! 00:17:30
[15:44] <kbmonkey> now I want to watch the clock reach 00:00
[15:44] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos!
[15:44] <Kilos> Maaz_, gracias
[15:44] <Maaz_> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[15:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, dankie
[15:44] <Maaz_> Groot plesier kbmonkey my vriend
[15:47] <kbmonkey> it seems like the timer will reload the page at 00:00:00
[15:47] <kbmonkey> we can't sneak a peek :
[15:47] <kbmonkey> :p
[16:00] <kbmonkey> the timer is almost up!
[16:00] <kbmonkey> ubuntu.com
[16:02] <kbmonkey> Vince-0, I setup a test wikimedia to try out the book creation functionality. it's pretty darn neat.
[16:03] <Kilos> hi josvis 
[16:03] <josvis> hi Kilos
[16:03] <kbmonkey> hello josvis 
[16:04] <josvis> hi everyone, Im not that important
[16:05] <Kilos> everyone is important
[16:05] <Kilos> to someone anyway
[16:06] <josvis> I feel at home
[16:06] <Vince-0> heyo
[16:06] <Kilos> yeah me too this is home
[16:07] <Kilos> friendliest channel on irc
[16:07] <kbmonkey> there is no place like ~/
[16:07] <Kilos> help channel that is
[16:08] <Vince-0> kbmonkey, is that William? 
[16:08] <Vince-0> I'm bad with names
[16:09] <josvis> I made a few notes last night on your jargon. What does "wb" mean?
[16:09] <kbmonkey> nope, its Wesley
[16:10] <Cantide> what's happening on Ubuntu.com?
[16:10] <Cantide> i can't access it right now
[16:10] <Vince-0> oh crap, bad with nicks
[16:10] <Cantide> and hello :)
[16:10] <Vince-0> Cantide, speculation about an HTC tablet announcement
[16:10] <Kilos> welcome back josvis 
[16:11] <Kilos> normally used after one has lost connection or gone on hols
[16:11] <Cantide> yeah, i saw the news on OMG! Ubuntu
[16:11] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[16:11] <Kilos> lo Cantide 
[16:12] <Kilos> Vince-0, who are you?
[16:12] <Kilos> oh you told maaz last night
[16:12] <Vince-0> I did
[16:12] <Vince-0> ?
[16:12] <Vince-0> Maaz. who am I
[16:12] <Maaz_> Vince-0: Huh?
[16:14] <Kilos> you didnt log in with maaz at the meeting
[16:14] <Kilos> naughty
[16:14] <Vince-0> oh noes, I was inbetween a few things here
[16:15] <Vince-0> and a bit los kop
[16:16] <Kilos> a bit?
[16:16] <Kilos> ok login with us now
[16:16] <Vince-0> loose headed
[16:16] <Kilos> full name and address
[16:16] <Vince-0> lols
[16:16] <Kilos> hehe
[16:17] <Kilos> wwk?
[16:17] <kbmonkey> hey Kilos, no asl here please ;P
[16:17] <Kilos> huh?
[16:17] <kbmonkey> wow that ubuntu for tablets looks amazing. now _that_ is what unity is good for.
[16:17] <Vince-0> register?
[16:17] <Kilos> no man im nosy to know
[16:18] <cocooncrash> Maaz_: change nick to Maaz
[16:18] <Maaz> cocooncrash: Changing nick to Maaz
[16:18] <Kilos> you one of the list guys i spose
[16:18] <Kilos> hi cocooncrash  ty
[16:18] <cocooncrash> Maaz: grant admin to inetpro when authed
[16:18] <Maaz> cocooncrash: Yessir
[16:19] <Kilos> cocooncrash, he also has them burp probs back again
[16:20] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Eh?
[16:20] <Cantide> kbmonkey, yeah, it does look nice :) i almost want a tablet now :p
[16:20] <Kilos> when asking something he says burp that didnt go down well with me
[16:21] <Vince-0> multi-tasking is whats missing on tablets
[16:23] <charl_> just saw that south africa also has eduroam, although it seems like only two universities are participating http://www.eduroam.ac.za/
[16:25] <kbmonkey> wow, this wysiwyg editor on ubuntu-za is kinda buggy.
[16:26] <kbmonkey> but it works
[16:26] <tumbleweed> cocooncrash: Kilos said in private that it was the weather plugin
[16:26] <tumbleweed> cocooncrash: we reaaaaly need to get an Ibid release out :/
[16:26] <cocooncrash> tumbleweed: Ah
[16:27] <tumbleweed> (and other things, apparently)
[16:27] <tumbleweed> but other things is less helpful :P
[16:27]  * tumbleweed -> clug dinner
[16:27] <Kilos> enjoy
[16:27] <tumbleweed> re global jam - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2246/detail/
[16:28] <kbmonkey> arg, it lost some of my changes. 
[16:28]  * kbmonkey applies head to desk
[16:28] <Kilos> hehe softly hey
[16:29] <Kilos> josvis, wb
[16:31] <Cantide> are there any workshops held to teach people how to develop for Ubuntu
[16:31] <Cantide> or some kind of Ubuntu coding frenzy that one can attend
[16:32] <Cantide> is that what the Global Jam is?
[16:32] <Kilos> you missed one a few weeks back Cantide 
[16:32] <Cantide> oh :/
[16:32] <Kilos> on ubuntu-classroom
[16:32] <Cantide> ,_,
[16:32] <Kilos> using quickly
[16:32]  * Cantide quickly weeps
[16:32] <Kilos> maybe someone saved the info
[16:33] <Cantide> tis okay
[16:33] <Kilos> maybe i did
[16:33] <Cantide> i don't have time right now
[16:33] <Cantide> but in a few weeks / months i will have a lot of free time
[16:33] <Cantide> and i'd like to learn how to code for ubuntu
[16:33] <Kilos> np will take long to find anyway
[16:33] <Cantide> lol
[16:33] <Kilos> thats what it was all about
[16:33] <Kilos> how to write apps for ubuntu
[16:35] <Cantide> nice
[16:35] <Cantide> how does the global jam differ?
[16:35] <Cantide> is the global jam for people who already can
[16:35] <Kilos> i dunno
[16:35] <Cantide> and the ubuntu-classroom for those who want to learn?
[16:35] <Cantide> oh .-.
[16:36] <Kilos> classroom is /j #ubuntu-classroom
[16:36] <Cantide> dis baie warm in Durban ,_,
[16:36]  * Cantide melts
[16:36] <Cantide> ah :)
[16:36] <Cantide> thanks :)
[16:36] <Cantide> i mean dankie :p
[16:37] <Kilos> yw
[16:37] <kbmonkey> oh, there goes the bell. time to do some chores, bbl...
[16:37] <Kilos> one could even ask there for the link to the logs off the how to write ubuntu apps
[16:37] <Kilos> toods kbmonkey 
[16:38] <Vince-0> watching Ubuntu tablet tour with Shuttleworthy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h384z7Ph0gU
[16:38] <Cantide> oh, and ubuntu stores the logs :)
[16:38] <Cantide> Vince-0, thanks :)
[16:38] <Kilos> there are irc logs of all the channels methinks
[16:45] <Cantide> yeah
[16:46] <Kilos> here it is http://slexy.org/view/s2Xb6YiCCK
[16:46] <Cantide> Vince-0, i like the end of that video
[16:46] <Cantide> it really becomes apparent what Canonical is trying to do with Ubuntu
[16:47] <Cantide> thanks, Kilos :)
[16:47] <Vince-0> check the phone in tablet dock - ala Asus
[16:47] <Kilos> yw. hope i got it all
[16:54] <Cantide> Kilos, i will figure out whatever is missing
[16:54] <Kilos> good
[16:54] <Cantide> it's actually really basic, based on what i just read :)
[16:54] <Kilos> was an interesting class
[16:54] <Cantide> Vince-0, yeah, haha i also noticed that :p
[16:54] <Kilos> yeah looked quite easy for someone who knows about writing stuff
[16:55] <Cantide> yup
[16:55] <Cantide> i just need to learn some python
[16:56] <Cantide> and then it will be really easy
[16:56] <Vince-0> me3
[16:56] <Cantide> but i assume it won't be hard to pick up
[16:57] <Kilos> the trick will be in coming up with a good app no one else has done yet and one that everyone wants
[16:57] <Cantide> yeah
[16:58] <Cantide> it works well when you have a need and can't find an app to fulfill that need
[16:58] <Cantide> because then you're effectively making something for yourself
[16:59] <Kilos> yeah
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59]  * Kilos >supper
[16:59] <Kilos> hehe
[17:13] <inetpro> thanks cocooncrash
[17:26] <Kilos> ah maaz is fixed ty cocooncrash 
[17:27] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria
[17:27] <Maaz> Kilos: In Pretoria, South Africa at 6:35 PM SAST on February 19, 2013: 25°C; Humidity: 50%; Wind: SSW at 13 km/h; Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain; Sunrise/set: 5:55 AM SAST/6:46 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 2:02 PM SAST/12:12 AM SAST
[17:29] <Kilos> we gonna sweat tomorrow
[17:29] <Kilos> 36°c
[17:32] <Cantide> o_O
[17:32] <Cantide> Maaz, weather in Durban
[17:32] <Maaz> Cantide: In La Mercy, South Africa at 7:00 PM SAST on February 19, 2013: 25°C; Humidity: 94%; Wind: NE at 17 km/h; Conditions: Clear; Sunrise/set: 5:39 AM SAST/6:39 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 2:00 PM SAST/
[17:32] <Cantide> 94% 'o'
[17:33] <Symmetria> http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2299/b54ece3c7fa74cd3920112c98452918f.jpg
[17:33] <Symmetria> hahahahah
[17:33] <Symmetria> oh man thats hilarious
[17:33] <Vince-0> jeepers
[17:34] <Symmetria> hahahaaahah man what a screwup
[17:34] <Symmetria> outsurance is crying foul saying it wasn't their fault as well
[17:37] <Cantide> will 13.04 use QT instead of GTK?
[17:37] <kbmonkey> yes it is very humid in Durban. Can feel it in my brain.
[17:38] <tumbleweed> Cantide: it's for people who want to do it, beginners or experienced developers
[17:38] <Cantide> tumbleweed, the global jam?
[17:38] <tumbleweed> Cantide: yes
[17:38] <Cantide> oh, nice :) so a beginner wouldn't be shunned there
[17:39] <Cantide> and how does it work - it is a gathering IRL, or online?
[17:39] <tumbleweed> not at all, everyone has to be a beginner at some point
[17:40] <kbmonkey> thanks for that email on 3G Kilos. my sakis3g is also working nicely
[17:40] <kbmonkey> thanks to you
[17:40] <tumbleweed> Cantide: IRL - look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek if you want an online event
[17:40] <Kilos> yeah sakis is good just thought it might help if you cant get online to download sakis
[17:41] <Cantide> tumbleweed, cool :) and where is it held?
[17:41] <Kilos> i think trix said his new one has an auto connect in if signal drops too
[17:41] <tumbleweed> Cantide: are you not on the ubuntu-za mailing list?
[17:42] <tumbleweed> I posted https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2013-February/010219.html this evening
[17:42] <Cantide> I am... i may have archived some things..
[17:42] <Cantide> ooooh yeah, i read that earlier
[17:42] <Cantide> sorry :/
[17:43] <tumbleweed> sorry, I didn't say what it was about at all, in the mail
[17:43] <Cantide> when i saw the second link i assumed it was online
[17:44] <Cantide> oh, CT :'(
[17:44] <Cantide> kbmonkey, let's throw a party ._.
[17:45] <Cantide> tumbleweed, thanks for the info :)
[17:46] <Cantide> i am AFK now :)
[17:50] <kbmonkey> a party Cantide? I'll bring cupcakes!
[18:04] <Symmetria> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0bk3gsv1gA <[18:07] <Vince-0> jeebers
[18:08] <Cantide> i want to click :'(
[18:08] <Cantide> but my bandwidth says no :(
[18:09] <Vince-0> dont bother
[18:09] <Vince-0> its a crock lol
[18:09] <Cantide> lol
[18:09] <Symmetria> hahahahaha
[18:10] <Symmetria> its hilarious
[18:10] <Symmetria> psy is impersonating the anti-christ in gangnam style don't you know
[18:10] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:19] <Cantide> hahahaha
[18:19] <Cantide> i'm sure that's what he was going for :p
[18:21] <Symmetria> haha the same dude claims that the pope resigning
[18:21] <Symmetria> was fulfillment of the gangnam style prophecy
[18:21] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:22] <Cantide> :D :D :D
[18:22] <Cantide> good night :p
[18:34] <charl_> good evening
[18:34] <charl_> hi smile4ever 
[18:34] <Kilos> hi smile4ever charl_ 
[18:39] <Squirm> henkj
[18:43] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[18:44]  * Squirm looks around
[18:45] <kbmonkey> hello
[18:45] <charl_> hi kbmonkey, Squirm 
[18:45] <smile4ever> hi charl_ & Kilos
[18:54] <magespawn> evening all
[18:54] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:54] <kbmonkey> hi there
[18:54] <magespawn> what up y'all?
[18:54] <Kilos> nill
[18:54] <Kilos> quiet day
[18:55] <kbmonkey> it feels like a monday
[18:56] <charl_> apparently the xfce flavour of linux mint does not deem ot necessary to go to standby mode when you close a laptop's lid
[18:56] <charl_> it only switches off the screen
[18:56] <charl_> so this morning i closed my laptop and threw it into my bag, at around noon it was dead
[18:56] <charl_> battery entirely drained
[18:56] <charl_> only realised then that the default behaviour is off
[18:57] <kbmonkey> eish
[18:57] <kbmonkey> :p
[18:57] <magespawn> i thought there was a hardware switch that does that when you close the laptop?
[18:57] <charl_> there is probably a setting but you would think these things would come pretty standard
[18:57] <charl_> magespawn: no it's software controlled
[18:58] <magespawn> ahh standard like no screen saver installed in kubuntu
[18:58] <charl_> screen saver? people still use those?
[18:58] <charl_> we all have lcd monitors now
[18:59] <magespawn> internet cafe, if the scrren just blanks people think it is off
[18:59] <magespawn> screen even
[18:59] <charl_> not very green though :P
[18:59] <charl_> i'm sure you could install some screen savers as optional packages
[19:00] <magespawn> running a laptop in a bag could result in problems
[19:00] <charl_> for one, heat
[19:00] <charl_> that's how i discovered it at first
[19:00] <magespawn> yes lots of choice when you go looking for them
[19:00] <charl_> actually there are probably no other major problems
[19:00] <charl_> anyway, i stuck my hand into my bag to take out some tea and i thought "wait why is the bag hot inside"
[19:02] <charl_> fortunately it's still winter so it isn't so hot
[19:03] <Kilos> night guys sleep tight
[19:03] <kbmonkey> knight kilos
[19:03] <charl_> night Kilos 
[19:03] <magespawn> cheers Kilos 
[19:03] <Kilos> lol
[19:03] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[19:04] <magespawn> that would be Sir to you kbmonkey 
[19:04] <kbmonkey> that happened before charl_. I think the lid lifted slightly and it woke up, as I put it in the bag :p
[19:05] <charl_> hmmm, it could happen
[19:06] <charl_> but yeah, only "damage" being i (almost) entirely drained a lithium-ion battery
[19:06] <charl_> but i guess that's not the worst
[19:06] <kbmonkey> today the humidity here is 94%
[19:06] <charl_> i don't really use the battery much anyway, just while it's in sleep mode while it's in the bag
[19:06] <charl_> when i take it out i almost immediately plug it in in any case
[19:07] <charl_> i only use it on battery when i'm in the train for example
[19:07] <charl_> and that isn't frequent
[19:10] <kbmonkey> that is okay then. just set your on-battery sleep time.
[19:11] <kbmonkey> the wind is howling, it will storm soon
[19:12] <magespawn> send it on up here
[19:14] <magespawn> how do i check logs, specifically auth, on a server?
[19:15] <kbmonkey> in /var/log/auth.log magespawn, is that what you looking for?
[19:16] <kbmonkey> hey, mine shows repeated attempts for failed root logins from an IP. hmmm.
[19:16] <magespawn> yes i need to bring it up in a terminal
[19:17] <magespawn> would google but net is slower than molasses in antartica
[19:17] <charl_> kbmonkey: that is perfectly normal
[19:17] <charl_> magespawn: you're on the south pole?!
[19:18] <charl_> say hi to the penguins :)
[19:18] <magespawn> no but internet ways i might as well be
[19:18] <charl_> eh ok
[19:19] <kbmonkey> I'm not sure this is normal charl_ 
[19:20] <kbmonkey> this is what I see: http://pastebin.com/mJX9vEAA
[19:21] <charl_> clearly an exploited server
[19:21] <charl_> i got that all the time too until i changed my ssh port to a non-standard number...
[19:22] <charl_> are you running your ssh on port 22?
[19:22] <charl_> it's a turkish web hosting company
[19:22] <kbmonkey> yes but I have password authentication disabled. use gpg keys.
[19:22] <charl_> i see you are using allowed users - that is good (i do it too)
[19:22] <kbmonkey> ah, perhaps I will change the port anyway
[19:23] <charl_> gpg keys? you mean rsa/dsa keys?
[19:23] <kbmonkey> yup. I went on a ssh/gpg buzz a while ago. learnt a lot :)
[19:23] <charl_> oh interesting, i just use dsa, never tried gpg
[19:23] <kbmonkey> yes, I mean key pair authentication
[19:23] <charl_> i generate a keypair with ssh-keygen
[19:23] <charl_> i only use gpg for file encryption
[19:24] <kbmonkey> yeah, my bad, I used the wrong name
[19:25] <charl_> oh ok np, i was just curious cause i didn't know you could do that :)
[19:25] <magespawn> page finally loaded grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less
[19:25] <kbmonkey> I call them the same, technically they both use priv/pub key pairs. gpg is just geared for files/text, ssh for authentication
[19:26] <charl_> a lot of things use ppk, ssl too
[19:26] <kbmonkey> I should sign more emails. don't really know other people who do.
[19:27] <kbmonkey> I could report this attempt with anyone?
[19:27] <charl_> i know a few hard-core people that do, i don't though
[19:28] <charl_> you could contact the web host company and hope to get through to somebody who speaks english
[19:28] <charl_> personally i used to get so many of them i wouldn't even bother
[19:29] <charl_> would become a full time job to keep up
[19:30] <kbmonkey> definitely. glad I'm a fan of strong passwords XD
[19:31] <kbmonkey> here comes the rain
[19:31] <charl_> the only thing i use right now for email is spf, i don't even bother with dkim
[19:31] <charl_> does anyone here use dkim?
[19:31] <charl_> i had opendkim running at one point but it was a mess to configure and there wasn't clarity (at the time) regarding the dns records
[19:31] <magespawn> charl_: never heard of it
[19:32] <magespawn> kbmonkey: i have similar entries
[19:32] <kbmonkey> never heard of those before charl_ 
[19:32] <charl_> had to manually configure it to work with postfix on ubuntu etc, which i guess wasn't so bad, but it needed some serious googling and figuring out
[19:32] <charl_> i think spf is important but dkim is still an optional, but there are some people who are pushing for it
[19:35] <smile4ever> bye :)
[19:35] <charl_> ciao smile4ever 
[19:35] <kbmonkey> cheers smile4ever 
[19:35] <kbmonkey> next time come tell us of the homework :)
[19:35] <smile4ever> good night :)
[19:35] <smile4ever> kbmonkey: lol, no, wikipedia :p
[19:35] <smile4ever> :)
[19:35] <smile4ever> and google reader
[19:35] <smile4ever> good night
[19:36] <charl_> i'm off as well, ciao all
[19:37] <kbmonkey> well magespawn at least the sshd_conf login grace time is set to 120 seconds.
[19:37] <kbmonkey> do you have password authentication on?
[19:37] <magespawn> yes
[19:37] <magespawn> never got round to setting up keys
[19:39] <kbmonkey> perhaps look into it one day. it should not take very long either.
[19:42] <magespawn> indeed
[19:48] <magespawn> person was persistant and from more than one ip and trying multiple ports
[19:49] <kbmonkey> its likely a scanner going through a list of IP's and ports systematically
[19:54] <magespawn> wonder what will happen if i scan them back?
[19:55] <kbmonkey> lol
[19:57] <magespawn> have backtrack running on an old laptop
[19:58] <kbmonkey> 'netstat --tcp' is quiet useful
[19:59] <magespawn> cool
[20:00] <kbmonkey> is it right that i have smtp listening?
[20:00] <kbmonkey> netstat -l
[20:01] <magespawn> on your server?
[20:02] <kbmonkey> no, on my laptop
[20:04] <magespawn> it is needed for sending/recieving mail, i think
[20:04] <magespawn> simple mail transfer protocol
[20:05] <kbmonkey> ah, okay using the --programs parameters, I see there is no process using it at the moment.
[20:06] <kbmonkey> makes sense, actually. maybe my brain is awake for too long today.
[20:07] <magespawn> lol
[20:13] <zeref> zooommmm
[20:19] <magespawn> hey zeref
[20:20] <kbmonkey> buzzzzz
[20:20] <magespawn> later all bed time
[20:21] <kbmonkey> gn magespawn 
[20:21] <kbmonkey> need more time in the day. eyes are tired, need to revive vision.
[20:22] <kbmonkey> tap and pay 4 to regenerate vision
[20:30] <zeref> hey magespawn 
[20:51] <superfly> kbmonkey: were you also awake all night last night? :-P
[20:54] <kbmonkey> not all night but later than need be ._.
[21:06] <kbmonkey> night all. happy Z's.
[21:29] <Vince-0> YaAarn Im out
[23:55] <zeref> any late night owl here