[00:00] <kubotsu> so the answer is i HAVE to redownload the .iso again in order to seed it .. the end
[00:00] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: I think I've mostly used ktorrent.
[00:00] <wiggmpk> jhutchins_wk: your right..  sorry
[00:00] <jhutchins_wk> kubotsu: No, of course not, otherwise nobody could start a torrent.
[00:00] <shwaiil> jhutchins_wk: I runned the command but because I've got windows in the boot, this didnt run fsck ...not sure if because of that
[00:00] <wiggmpk> kubotsu: you have to create a .torrent file
[00:00] <mc3apps> QUIT
[00:00] <Ice_Strike> Should all the downloaded files go to /usr/src for compiling?
[00:00] <jhutchins_wk> kubotsu: Your google-fu is weak.
[00:01] <kubotsu> we are getting somewhere i guess.. but transmission doesnt seem to have a 'create torrent file' option
[00:01] <buenouanq> yes it does
[00:02] <jhutchins_wk> kubotsu: According to this, File/Create Torrent.
[00:02] <buenouanq> ^
[00:02] <wiggmpk> kubotsu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7582444&postcount=4
[00:02] <wiggmpk> jhutchins_wk: think I linked the same post your probably reading
[00:02] <buenouanq> Actually, on mine, it's File->New...
[00:03] <kubotsu> alright, that seems about right..
[00:03] <Hearthstone> hello everybody. i have a problem with the menue bar on the top of the screen in unity (ubuntu 12.04). the menue only stay open, when i hold the left mouse button. Its possible to change that, that the menue will stay open after one left mouse click (and close after another)?
[00:03] <Ben64> kubotsu: are you trying to create a torrent or seed it?
[00:03] <Kentrel> I have drives set to automount at startup, yet I need to click on the drives in a file manager before I can access them
[00:04] <escott> Kentrel, set up to automount on what mountpoint and setup how (in fstab?)
[00:04] <PadNet_201> How do i delete a file in linux that's too large for the trash?
[00:05] <Ben64> PadNet_201: shift+delete or use rm in the terminal
[00:05] <Kentrel> nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-sow
[00:05] <escott> PadNet_201, shift-delete
[00:05] <PadNet_201> thx
[00:05] <Kentrel> show*
[00:05] <kubotsu> Ben64: create to seed
[00:06] <Ben64> kubotsu: that makes no sense
[00:06] <buenouanq> Installation problems on a Macbook5,1
[00:06] <buenouanq> Can get to GRUB just fine with the options:
[00:06] <buenouanq> -Try without install
[00:06] <buenouanq> -Install
[00:06] <buenouanq> -OEM install
[00:06] <FloodBot1> buenouanq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:06] <buenouanq> -Check disc for defects
[00:06] <escott> Ice_Strike, no. compile as non-priv user in your $HOME then install to /usr/local
[00:06] <kubotsu> that's cause YOU dont understand. the provided link explains , go read
[00:06] <Ben64> kubotsu: no, i understand fine
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Here's a wild one: Is there any way to install a *buntu ISO into a blank partition *without* the aid of live media or Wubi?
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> (Well, Ubuntu from an ISO, not the actual ISO itself)
[00:07] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: dd
[00:07] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, PXEboot
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Which works in Windows?
[00:07] <TreceX> hola
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> and elky ^^
[00:07] <kubotsu> Ben64: obviously you dont.. my answer is all here whether you think you understand my issue or not : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7582444&postcount=4
[00:07] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: nevermind, your 2nd line messed up my answer
[00:08] <wiggmpk> kubotsu: so your good to go then?
[00:08] <TreceX> alguien habla español o portugues?
[00:08] <kubotsu> wiggmpk: yes, that worked out
[00:08] <Ben64> kubotsu: they already have ubuntu torrents, why create a new one without any peers on it?
[00:08] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, PXEboot happens when you boot, but you need it set up on your network. you select usually f12 and you get a menu of images to install fro
[00:08] <elky> from*
[00:08] <kubotsu> Ben64: let it go . its all good now
[00:08] <buenouanq> Installation problems on a Macbook5,1.  Can get to GRUB just fine with the options: -Try without install -Install -OEM install -Check disc for defects
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: OK...
[00:09] <buenouanq> Selecting any of these leads to a blank screen, then some lines of various colors appear at the top.  Please help.  Any ideas?
[00:09] <Ben64> kubotsu: well you're asking silly questions. seeding and creating are much different
[00:09] <Ben64> to seed the iso, all you need is the already created torrent file from ubuntu.com, and the iso
[00:10] <wiggmpk> Ben64: technically you dont need the .torrent file once its already loaded in your torrent client
[00:10] <cheetah100> nzoss
[00:10] <kubotsu> right, which means you only have half the information to properly understand my issue which was already resolved by wiggmpk 's link
[00:10] <Ben64> wiggmpk: then you still need it...
[00:10] <kubotsu> move on
[00:11] <wiggmpk> Ben64: no... you dont.. i never have and never will download .torrent files.. they only need to be opened in the torrent client.. as long as the torrent stays active in your client.. you continue to seed the files
[00:11] <Ben64> wiggmpk: thats crazy. "you don't need the torrent file if you already have it"
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Actually, I found a tutorial using EasyBCD, but thanks for the net boot option.
[00:12] <wiggmpk> Ben64: if you already have the active torrent in your client.. you dont need the .torrent client
[00:12] <wiggmpk> err file
[00:12] <Ben64> that means you already have it
[00:12] <Ben64> :|
[00:12] <wiggmpk> Ben64: no, it just means the tracker knows where I am cause im seeding
[00:12] <Ben64> you clicked it, therefore you downloaded it and opened it in the client. you do indeed have the torrent file
[00:12] <buenouanq> anyone?
[00:13] <wiggmpk> Ben64: i welcome you to search my laptop for a .torrent file
[00:13] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: It's probably hidden.
[00:13] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Apparently EasyBCD can add ISO booting to the Windows MBR so one can boot CDs directly at the Windows bootloader. Then I won't have to worry about it when GRUB overwrites the MBR on the other partition (hopefully).
[00:13] <wiggmpk> jhutchins_wk: no, its not
[00:14] <Ben64> its definitely there, it's not magical
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> provided the other partition is primary.
[00:14] <Ben64> either in memory or on disk, it exists
[00:14] <kubotsu> Ben64: the question was 'how to create a .torrent file from within transmission'. thats all
[00:14] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: Likely in a hidden .directory for your torrent client.
[00:14] <kubotsu> you're drowning yourself
[00:14] <wiggmpk> Ben64: if it was in memory it would vanish on a restart
[00:14] <Ben64> then its on disk
[00:14] <wiggmpk> jhutchins_wk: i know what a hidden directory is.. its not there
[00:15] <wiggmpk> in fact, transmission gives you the option to move .torrent files to trash after they are added
[00:15] <jhutchins_wk> Quick! To the retistry!
[00:15] <Ben64> Feb 18 2013 15:49:48 <kubotsu>	let me rephrase, do i have to re-download the .iso in order to seed?
[00:15] <Ben64> the question was how to seed
[00:15] <BaconAttack_> wiggmpk transmission stores your .torrents in a hidden folder
[00:15] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: You really misunderstand the process.  If you open a torrent file, it has been downloaded.
[00:16] <kubotsu> Ben64: read between the lines ?
[00:16] <BaconAttack_> wiggmpk    just check   ~/Library/Application Support/Transmission/torrents/.
[00:16] <Ben64> kubotsu: my irc client lacks the ability to read minds, sorry
[00:16] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: Anything you open or display locally is downloaded one way or another.
[00:17] <wiggmpk> BaconAttack_: that directory doesnt exist on my system
[00:17] <BaconAttack_> then how does transmission function
[00:17] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: Your torrent client could conceivably store it as something other than a torrent file, but it's there somewhere.
[00:17] <ifoney> Hello folks. I have a dell server which needs tg3.ko module to get the network card to work, i am running 10.04 and I am able to load the driver manually but it does not load up on boot .... any ideas?
[00:17] <escott> ifoney, /etc/modules
[00:17] <holako> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAldzcyqtMY
[00:17] <ifoney> I added the driver in /etc/modules ... no joy :(
[00:18] <jhutchins_wk> ifoney: /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.d
[00:18] <kubotsu> Ben64: wiggmpk 's apparently can..
[00:18] <BaconAttack_> wiggmpk im just assuming you are using transmission as i saw it somewhere before in the chat after a quick scroll. go to "Go to Folder" and get to that transmission folder
[00:18] <BaconAttack_> you wont see it by default just by clicking into your hdd
[00:18] <wiggmpk> BaconAttack_: are you on a Mac?
[00:19] <BaconAttack_> yes
[00:19] <BaconAttack_> oh damnit
[00:19] <BaconAttack_> why did i think you said mac
[00:19] <wiggmpk> BaconAttack_: which is not Ubunut... so again.. that directory doesnt exist on my system
[00:19] <jhutchins_wk> ctcp BaconAttack_ version
[00:19] <BaconAttack_> disregard
[00:19] <BaconAttack_> comepletely my bad. i thought i saw mac
[00:20] <ifoney> jhutchins_wk : I checked mobprobe blacklist, its not in the blacklist and i added it in /etc/modules
[00:20] <judgen> I have a precise cd, but how do i figure out if it is i386 or amd64 by just looking at the files?
[00:20] <Ben64> wiggmpk - the torrent does exist, you don't have to believe it, but its true
[00:20] <ifoney> jhutchins_wk: still does not load
[00:21] <wiggmpk> jhutchins_wk: not that I want to encourage this discussion any further, but for lol's I just did a comprehensive search of my laptop for any .torrent files.. they are not here mate.. sorry
[00:21] <wiggmpk> Ben64: tell me where it's at then Ben
[00:21] <judgen> darn it was i386
[00:21] <Ben64> i don't use your system, so idk
[00:21] <BaconAttack_> ~/.transmission/torrents/     ?
[00:21] <woofer> i am trying to install a ati video driver.   i extracted the tar.gz,   then i when in, did ./configure   - it did it's thing, now i try make   - it says 'no targers specified and no makefile found. stop.
[00:22] <holako> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAldzcyqtMY
[00:22] <woofer> there is a makefile called makefile.am and makefile.in
[00:22]  * that4chanwolf pets buenouanq 
[00:22] <Hilikus> is there any way to get the inode of a "locate" result? i don't know what to pipe locate to
[00:22] <buenouanq> Should I ask again?
[00:23] <escott> Hilikus, stat
[00:23] <wiggmpk> Ben64: ok then
[00:23] <Hilikus> escott: doesnt work
[00:23] <judgen> i am going through my unmarked cd's and now i have found every version of ubuntu from 5.* to 12.* without finding the x64 disk...
[00:23] <Hilikus> escott: it just says missing file
[00:23] <Hilikus> stat: missing operand
[00:24] <buenouanq> Installation problems on a Macbook5,1.  Can get to GRUB just fine with the options: -Try without install -Install -OEM install -Check disc for defects
[00:24] <buenouanq> Selecting any of these leads to a blank screen, then some lines of various colors appear at the top.  Please help.  Any ideas?
[00:24] <jrib> buenouanq: you downloaded the special image for macs?
[00:24] <escott> Hilikus, you probably have to play around with xargs or do it as stat `locate foo`
[00:24] <escott> Hilikus, stat doesn't take from the pipe its for single file usage
[00:25] <buenouanq> there's a special image?...
[00:25] <jrib> buenouanq: releases.ubuntu.com
[00:25] <buenouanq> Well now I just feel stupid.
[00:25] <buenouanq> thank you.
[00:25] <jrib> buenouanq: you're using 12.10?
[00:25] <buenouanq> yes
[00:26] <buenouanq> with Xfce
[00:26] <jrib> buenouanq: yeah, see here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[00:26] <buenouanq> assuming there'll be one on the Xubuntu site too?
[00:27] <swordz> Hi. I'm currently running 12.10. I've got 2 monitors, one of which is 1900 pixels wide. If I turn on my second, Unity 3D claims that my monitors need to fit into a box 2048*2048, and my monitors don't. In 12.04 I fixed this by using Unity 2d, which I can't in 12.10. For the last 4 months I've had my second monitor turned off, expecting that this would be fixed at some point soon. As it hasn't been, any pointers to get it working? I'm having no success so fa
[00:27] <swordz> r...
[00:27] <MAL0>  error 132 by upping wlan0, can someone help me ?
[00:28] <jrib> buenouanq: I don't see one :x  You might try to see if the special ubuntu one actually works.  And if it does, then you can just install xubuntu-desktop.  If you really don't want the default ubuntu stuff also on there, then I guess you have to figure out why the xubuntu image doesn't work :)
[00:28] <buenouanq> Sounds good.
[00:28] <jhutchins_wk> ifoney: Make sure you got the format right in modules - you may need to alias it to eth0.
[00:28] <buenouanq> Thank you very much.
[00:28] <woofer> why do i have a Makefile.in and a Makefile.am   ?   i want to 'make' this install. i can't.
[00:29] <jrib> woofer: what are you installing?
[00:29] <woofer> jrib,  a ati vid driver.
[00:29] <jrib> !ati | woofer
[00:29] <woofer> huh? i downloaded it from some ubuntu page, now it's time to install it.
[00:29] <jhutchins_wk> wiggmpk: You are welcome to your ignorance, but you should realize that some of the people trying to explain things to you here are responsible for having helped develop the things they're trying to explain.
[00:29] <jrib> woofer: did you read the link ubottu gave?
[00:30] <wiggmpk> jhutchins_wk: k, thanks
[00:30] <woofer> jrib,  i am reading now...
[00:31] <woofer> jrib,  i feel i will have to kill the flrx thingy though...
[00:31] <s4lt> hi
[00:33] <manou> Hi!
[00:33] <manou> I need to put the mouse pointer for a given user transparent, know if this is possible?
[00:33] <manou> I'm trying to make a kiosk mode
[00:33] <MAL0> hello &
[00:33] <MAL0> ?
[00:34] <s4lt> µ
[00:35] <ifoney> jhutchins_wk : Ahh .... Forgot about that !! .. will try it out ... thanks !
[00:36] <manou> and i need to hide de cursor
[00:37] <Kentrel> Why is it that my drives aren't "mounted" until I click on them in Dolphin or Nautilus? They're set to automount in Fstab
[00:38] <jrib> Kentrel: pastebin your fstab
[00:38] <Kentrel> ok
[00:39] <woofer> jrib,  the amd website is being useless. i have a very old laptop. i need the driver for it. it can't find it on amd's website.
[00:39] <woofer> jrib,  it is a radeon IGP320M
[00:40] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1: hello
[00:40] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> magnus__: hello
[00:40] <jrib> woofer: I've never used ati; I only know what's on the wiki
[00:40] <Kentrel> jrib, actually according to fstab they're not, but they are in "mount options" of Disks
[00:40] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> takenori: hello
[00:40] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> doomperdicion: hello
[00:40] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> i20x539: hello
[00:41] <jrib> Kentrel: as far as I know, you need to add them to fstab if you want them mounted at boot
[00:41] <woofer> great...
[00:41] <jrib> woofer: does it not currently work as is?
[00:42] <Giddeon> when I type the "mail" command, I get a list of messages with data in columns.  I can't find documentation on that the columns mean; most are obvious but there a couple that aren't clear.  Does anyone know where I can get some info on this?
[00:43] <escott> Kentrel, what is the mountpoint
[00:45] <woofer> jrib,  no, it sucks balls.
[00:45] <jrib> woofer: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:45] <woofer> i can't. it's on a diff computer that isn't online.
[00:45] <woofer> all i can do is ssh into it.
[00:46] <ivorybishop> Anyone know ATI video driver troubleshooting? I installed the binary Catalyst driver, installed, at the end "No protocol specified." printed to the screen twice and that was it. Rebooted, get to login, enter password hit enter, then goes back to login screen. I am baffled.
[00:46] <Ben64> if you can ssh, you can internet
[00:46] <Ben64> woofer: anyway, it looks like theres 2 makefiles, one for intel, one for amd
[00:47] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1: 1
[00:47] <Ben64> woofer: wait ignore that, its wrong
[00:47] <MAL0> can i get some help ?
[00:47] <MAL0> PLZ
[00:47] <bekks> Ben64: Thats not true. Having a box allowing incoming ssh, does not mean having a box thaht allows outgoing http.
[00:47] <Ben64> bekks: it means you can
[00:47] <jrib> woofer: scp the file to your system and then pastebin it?
[00:47] <bekks> No.
[00:48] <lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1> lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1: 1
[00:48] <Ben64> bekks: yes.
[00:48] <bekks> Ben64: It entirely means you can ssh into it. Having a firewall, whatever, it does not mean you can http.
[00:48] <Ben64> lasdkjfhoqi3yrq1: stop
[00:49] <PadNet_201> malo, ask a specific question, don't ask to ask
[00:49] <woofer> this is just stupid. i search for my video card. - a IGP320M  on amd's website. and nothing comes up.
[00:49] <jrib> Giddeon: I don't know, but which aren't you sure about? :)
[00:50] <MAL0> ok, im trying to : ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:50] <jrib> woofer: have you considered that amd may on longer support it?
[00:50] <MAL0> but it says error 132
[00:50] <woofer> jrib,  so they delete the old driver for the thing?
[00:50] <Giddeon> jrib: the main one is a column that has output that looks like 21/885
[00:51] <MAL0> it was working westerday ...
[00:51] <Giddeon> jrib: err, 21/855
[00:51] <jrib> Giddeon: my guess is lines/size of some sort
[00:51] <ivorybishop> Also, when I log into the machine via command line I see "No protocol specified." twice and then "xdpyinfo unable to open display ":0.0".
[00:52] <Giddeon> jrib: thank you
[00:52] <jrib> Giddeon: it's a good question, I'm not sure where it's documented
[00:53] <mobodo> can I reinstall ubuntu while keeping my local configuration files?
[00:53] <mobodo> right now it won't reboot, but I have tons of small changes in /etc for instance
[00:54] <PadNet_201> I doubt you'll be able to keep your config
[00:54] <mobodo> if I install from the livecd on partition that already has an install, will it prompt me when it wants to overwrite a file that I have modified like it does for upgrades?
[00:55] <MAL0> Error 132 when im upping my wlan0... help
[00:55] <Ben64> mobodo: you'll probably end up with a more broken system if you try something like that
[00:56] <blah> How do I partition my disk when I use a ubuntu server disk. When I choose "manual" partitioning -> "Create a partition table" on my disk. How do I choose my boot,/,/var ...etc partition sizes?. When i choose "create a partition" it lets me choose the size but I dont have an option to pick if the size is for "/" or "/boot"
[00:56] <mobodo> Ben64: and I guess there is no "repair" option where ubuntu would just look for essential files and make sure they are there and working, huh?
[00:57] <MAL0> Error 132 when im upping my wlan0... help
[00:57] <Ben64> !patience | MAL0
[00:58] <kubotsu> mobodo: installing from livecd will give you about 3 options: fresh install, install along the existing system and another option i dont recall.. it wont do 'system restore' functions
[00:58] <Ben64> mobodo: you could reinstall things with apt-get, but its probably all those changes you did in /etc that made it unable to reboot. you should backup and install fresh
[00:59] <Volta> interesting
[01:00]  * PadNet_201 strokes his beard
[01:00] <mobodo> Ben64: I'm in the process of applying a backup, that's what's so annoying, it's my backup that doesn't work :(
[01:01] <jrib> Giddeon: enjoy: http://mailutils.org/manual/html_section/mail.html (scroll to "headline") :)
[01:01] <mobodo> ohhh… does ubuntu mount using unique ids for HD? If I changed my hard drive, I'd have to update it in the boot partition?
[01:01] <escott> !uuid | mobodo
[01:02] <kubotsu> that's why installing the system with a separate /home is good practice for folk with large amounts of personal data
[01:02] <astroidus> May I also write in german here ? Think no !?
[01:02] <Ben64> !de | astroidus
[01:03] <astroidus> Thank you very much !
[01:03] <astroidus> #ubuntu-de
[01:03] <pooltable> help installed libreoffice 4.0?
[01:04] <dr_willis> theres ppa's for it i belive pooltable
[01:04] <pooltable> ppa?
[01:04] <mobodo> kubotsu: my /home and most of my data is on a RAID1 partition, so it's fine :)
[01:05] <dr_willis> !ppa
[01:05] <crypticmofo> hi all
[01:05] <crypticmofo> i heard about unbuntu for android
[01:06] <crypticmofo> can i download it ?
[01:06] <pooltable> LibreOffice PPA that one ?
[01:06] <jrib> Giddeon: actually, this is probably a better place to point (but they say the same thing): http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/mailx/mailx.1.html
[01:06] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132837/how-do-i-install-the-latest-stable-version-of-libreoffice
[01:06] <dr_willis> crypticmofo:  not at this time i belive..
[01:06] <crypticmofo> wow
[01:07] <crypticmofo> dr_willis, it looks awesome
[01:07] <dr_willis> Ill belive in it when i see it.
[01:07] <kubotsu> your nick isn't
[01:08] <pooltable> LibreOffice PPA that one ?
[01:09] <kubotsu> pooltable: you have to find the address to the ppa in question then add it to your Sources. thought i'd mention that...
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[01:09] <mobodo> ergh… great, the livecd does not fit on a 700MB cd anymore… :P
[01:09] <dr_willis> pooltable:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/132837/how-do-i-install-the-latest-stable-version-of-libreoffice
[01:09] <dr_willis> 12.10 is a live dvd
[01:10] <kubotsu> yup, over 700mb.. but there are 800mb cd's too
[01:10] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[01:12] <revupdev34> I am trying to do something super simple. Using 12.4 Natty and the cd command seems to not work anymore
[01:12] <kubotsu> such a 'waste' to have to use a dvd but , you can only have one 'livecd' system per disc anyway  :-P  unless am missiong something..
[01:12] <revupdev34> WHY?
[01:13] <dr_willis> most people use USB flash drives these days
[01:13] <PadNet_201> yep
[01:13] <dr_willis> !12.04
[01:13] <revupdev34> in command line I simple type sudo cd/var/www
[01:13] <revupdev34> sudo: cd/var/www: command not found
[01:13] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  perhaps if you put a space in there where it belongs?
[01:13] <Pagos> hey guys, I'm having some troubles getting sound to work on a thinkpad T40 with lubuntu 12.04
[01:13] <PadNet_201> revupdev34, check alias?
[01:13] <dr_willis> and using cd with sudo is meaningless.
[01:14] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys - I'm having some trouble getting sound to play through my hdmi cable (ATI card to TV). I read I should ensure I am using the up-to-date proprietary driver, but when I open "additional drivers" it just tells me there are none in use on the system but doesn't list any I can choose to enable. Am I missing something? (Using 12.04)
[01:14] <escott> revupdev34, sp aces a re impo rtant
[01:14] <revupdev34> dr_willis: space after cd?
[01:14] <PsyCl0ne> Hi everyone, I enabled nvidia drivers on a new 12.10 install and now when the computer boots I only have a flashing cursor
[01:14] <revupdev34> usually I put a space
[01:14] <revupdev34> like sudo cd /home
[01:14] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  err... yes.. your paste did not show a space..
[01:14] <dr_willis> and again.. sudo cd   -> rather meaningless command
[01:14] <revupdev34> or... sudo cd /Desktop
[01:14] <escott> revupdev34, and as dr_willis mentioned sudo cd is meaningless. as cd is a builtin
[01:15] <escott> so even with the space it will still fail
[01:15] <Pagos> I'm having some troubles getting sound to work on a thinkpad T40 with lubuntu 12.04. Anyone know what to do?
[01:15] <MoPac> [Sorry for re-asking, bad connection] I have a question about whether an unmounted encfs folder is at risk of exposure if it has the same password as a mounted one. Would this be a good place to ask, or is there a better room?
[01:15] <revupdev34> cd /Desktop
[01:15] <revupdev34> bash: cd: /Desktop: No such file or directory
[01:16] <escott> revupdev34, ~/Desktop is not the same as /Desktop
[01:16] <dr_willis> sounds correct.. theres shouldent be a /Desktop directory
[01:16] <Pagos> MoPac, why are you using the same password for both?
[01:16] <dr_willis> you might want to read up on some bash tutorials.
[01:16] <dr_willis>  ~/Desktop  is very differnt from /Desktop
[01:16] <revupdev34> I did not put a ~ in there?
[01:16] <MoPac> Pagos: It's a Boxcryptor folder with subfolders. It's simple to just mount a subfolder rather than the whole thing, but I'm wondering if it's more secure. All subfolders will have the same password
[01:16] <escott> MoPac, having the same password anywhere makes possible some attacks that would not otherwise be possible. so yes
[01:17] <revupdev34> do you see a ~?
[01:17] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  and as we said.. there should NOT be a /Desktop
[01:17] <revupdev34> dr_willis: is your name John btw?
[01:17] <revupdev34> John Willis?
[01:17] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  /home/user/Desktop     = ~/Desktop
[01:17] <escott> revupdev34, no i dont see a ~. thats why I brought it up
[01:17] <MoPac> escott: I guess I understand that it's possible in principle (i.e., sidechannel attack on the RAM, etc).  But I'm wondering if it's plausible -- i.e., could a piece of malware do it, or a person sitting at the computer, etc
[01:17] <Pagos> MoPac, yeah I figured. It might compromise it, but you might want to check with people who know more about it
[01:18] <Pagos> I'm sorry I can't help you, MoPac
[01:18] <MoPac> I assume the plaintext password, or the private key itself, is cached in RAM, but I don't know if that means it's easy for a user or su to call out
[01:18] <Pagos> I'm sorry I can't help you, MoPac
[01:18] <escott> MoPac, the passphrase is used to symmetrically decrypted a longer key which is then used to do all the other encryption. so the password usage is really minimal in ecrytpfs
[01:18] <Pagos> I'm having some troubles getting sound to work on a thinkpad T40 with lubuntu 12.04. Anyone know what to do?
[01:18] <escott> MoPac, its just for unwrapping the true passphrase
[01:18] <MoPac> escott: Right, see above -- I guess the question si really thtat the folders have the same private key, and that private key is cached for one that is mounted
[01:19] <MoPac> But I don't know if that means that it's trivial, or still very hard, for a user to actually moun the second folder
[01:19] <MoPac> *mount
[01:19] <revupdev34> escott: cd /Desktop   always worked fine for me
[01:19] <escott> MoPac, if two directories have different keys then the fact that passphrase 1 and 2 are both used to decrypt the same key would seem to be minimal risk, but im no cryptographer and i'm confident there is AN attack
[01:19] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  there should not be a /Desktop directory on a Normal ubuntu install.
[01:20] <dr_willis> users data files are in their Home directory
[01:20] <revupdev34> I have cd'ed directories hundreds of times and cannot understand why it is not working as it always has
[01:20] <revupdev34> dr_willis: that is not correct
[01:20] <escott> revupdev34, then you have misconfigured your computer. I suggest you move the /Desktop folder to the correct location and rm -rf /Desktop afterwards.
[01:20] <revupdev34> if you are referring to Ubuntu Desktop version
[01:20] <escott> !fhs | revupdev34
[01:20] <revupdev34> or do you mean Ubuntu Server OS?
[01:21] <m1dn1ght> No desktop folder should ever be stored in the root directory, which is what you're saying if you could cd to /Desktop
[01:21] <MoPac> escott: They have the same key as well as the same password.  It's just one boxcryptor folder -- normally the subvolders aren't even recognized by cryptkeeper. But if you copy the encfs file from the main folder into subfolders, you can mount them individually.  That seems like a clever solution to give extra security to folders that have more sensitive data and rarely need to be mounted
[01:21] <Pagos> I'm having some troubles getting sound to work on a thinkpad T40 with lubuntu 12.04. Anyone know what to do?
[01:21] <MoPac> but I'm not sure if that's stupid
[01:21] <jrib> revupdev34: you probably used "cd ~/Desktop" or "cd Desktop" while you were in your HOME
[01:21] <dr_willis> !sound
[01:22] <revupdev34> jrib: that is correct
[01:22] <PadNet_201> Pagos, which audio server are u using?
[01:22] <jrib> revupdev34: ok so do that
[01:22] <revupdev34> Desktop dir is in Home of course
[01:22] <escott> MoPac, it sounds like a bad idea
[01:22] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  /Desktop is NOT in your home directory. its a full path
[01:22] <revupdev34> AH!
[01:22] <Pagos> PadNet_201, how do I know?
[01:22] <revupdev34> I do not need the /
[01:22] <revupdev34> haha
[01:22] <dr_willis> bash basics...
[01:22] <MoPac> escott: Do you know who would be a good person to ask? The encfs people? A crypto room?  I appreciate your help
[01:22] <revupdev34> not sure why I was putting that in there
[01:23] <giiker> anyone can help on how to patch a drive?
[01:23] <giiker> anyone can help on how to patch a driver?
[01:23] <PadNet_201> giiker, use zypper
[01:23] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys - I'm having some trouble getting sound to play through my hdmi cable (ATI card to TV). I read I should ensure I am using the up-to-date proprietary driver, but when I open "additional drivers" it just tells me there are none in use on the system but doesn't list any I can choose to enable. Am I missing something? (Using 12.04)
[01:23] <Pagos> PadNet_201, I assume the default one in lubuntu 12.04
[01:24] <Physicist> Greetings.. I just install the new driver amd. However, there was a security update for a new linux image, should I upgrade after installing the driver?
[01:24] <PadNet_201> Pagos, hit alt + F2, type phonon, it should bring up a dialog to edit your sound prefs
[01:24] <revupdev34> dr_willis:   John?
[01:24] <escott> MoPac, only person i know of who works on this is dustin kirkland. it obvious there is an attack if you use the same key. i dont understand why you would want such a configuration. ecryptfs was designed to handle multiple keys
[01:24] <dr_willis> m1dn1ght:  whats your exact chipset?
[01:24] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[01:24] <m1dn1ght> dr_willis - ATI Radeon HD 4850
[01:24] <Pagos> PadNet_201, it said "no such process."
[01:24] <MoPac> escott: It's so that I can keep compatibility with all the other platforms that use Boxcryptor
[01:24] <Pagos> PadNet_201, er, no such program. sorry
[01:25] <giiker> PadNet_201: something easier? itś just a file thatś part of a source I gotta patch, I read I can do it manually, but want to make sure I'm ddoing it right
[01:25] <dr_willis> m1dn1ght:  you could check the hardware lists to see what drivers support that card. or just install the fglrx drivers and hope they work. I dont keep track of what ati cards are supported these days
[01:25] <escott> MoPac, what is this "Boxcryptor"
[01:25] <m1dn1ght> dr_willis - you're saying just install them from the command prompt?
[01:26] <pooltable> well dr wills thanks i have 3.6 not 4.0 yet and did it through cli but better then what i had so thnas
[01:26] <PadNet_201> Pagos, try running zypper -pch
[01:26] <revupdev34> dr_willis: I thought you were a hardware expert???
[01:26] <MoPac> escott: https://www.boxcryptor.com/
[01:26] <Physicist> Greetings.. I just install the new driver amd. However, there was a security update for a new linux image, should I upgrade after installing the driver?
[01:26] <revupdev34> you must not be the same Dr. Willis I know
[01:26] <revupdev34> LoL
[01:26] <dr_willis> m1dn1ght:  thats all the gui tools do.
[01:26] <phunyguy> So I am guessing proxy support in Ubuntu is incomplete... I have to proxy everything at work, and we have all the proxies set up, and when adding them to Ubuntu, some services still don't connect (facebook and twitter over gwibber, and AIM over empathy...)
[01:26]  * dr_willis is a Dr of Love.
[01:27] <Pagos> PadNet_201, zypper not found either
[01:27] <escott> MoPac, you should take this up with boxcryptor themselves
[01:27] <revupdev34> to all:  How can I use dual NVIDIA cards on Ubuntu 12.4 LTS Desktop?
[01:27] <m1dn1ght> so is it just as simple as installing the 'fglrx' package with apt-get?  Or do I need to configure it according to my hardware
[01:27] <revupdev34> I have two Nvidia Quadro 2000 cards but they are not being detected
[01:27] <dr_willis> revupdev34:  if they use the same nvidia driver. you should be able to just plug them, all in, run nvidia-settings and configure them
[01:28] <revupdev34> I tried to plug in a second monitor to be sure but it seems that only one of them is working
[01:28] <MoPac> escott: There's no native Linux boxcryptor program: but since what they do is encfs or encfs-compatible, on Linux I can just use cryptkeeper to open the folders
[01:28] <k1ng> what is the best video and audio player for ubuntu?
[01:28] <Pagos> k1ng, that's incredibly subjective
[01:28] <m1dn1ght> k1ng - I use vlc for video
[01:28] <revupdev34> thanks dr_willis  I will try that now
[01:28] <k1ng> and what should i get 12.04 LTS or latest version?
[01:28] <escott> MoPac, all they are going to do is sync the .Private folder and share the keyfile in a sidechannel right
[01:28] <Pagos> !polls | k1ng
[01:28] <escott> ?
[01:28] <MoPac> So for these purposes, the fact that the folders are created by Boxcryptor is the reason why I want to have multiple mounts with the same key, but not really relevant to the security outcome - it's just encfs
[01:29] <dr_willis> k1ng:  depenbds on your needs
[01:29] <Physicist> dr_willis, I do not know if do you have doctorate, but, can you help me? Greetings.. I just install the new driver amd. However, there was a security update for a new linux image, should I upgrade after installing the driver?
[01:29] <PadNet_201> Pagos, Not really sure then, find your software installation utility and download PulseAudio, that's my only recommendation
[01:29] <m1dn1ght> dr_willis - so is it just as simple as installing the 'fglrx' package with apt-get?  Or do I need to configure it according to my hardware
[01:30] <dr_willis> m1dn1ght:  all ive ever really done was install the proper drivers and rebooted
[01:30] <m1dn1ght> dr_willis - so, 'apt-get install fglrx' and then a reboot?
[01:30] <revupdev34> is there a good app I can run to be sure OpenGL is functional on both cards?
[01:31] <revupdev34> what is the command again? GLXspheres?
[01:31] <Pagos> PadNet_201, I have installed pulseaudio via apt, what do I do now?
[01:31] <escott> revupdev34, is this some kind of crossfire configuration?
[01:31] <PadNet_201> Pagos, configure Phonon with your preferred sound device, check your volume levels and output devices, and it should work
[01:32] <Physicist> Pagos, You should include in the autostart and remove the old software, like alsa, And is good install the plugins.
[01:33] <PadNet_201> I've had good luck w/ pulseaudio once i figured it out
[01:34] <revupdev34> escott: no it is not SLI as they are Quadro cards
[01:34] <Pagos> I'm still not getting sound
[01:34] <revupdev34> professional grade Quadros do not have SLI
[01:35] <Giddeon> jrib: thank you for the mailutils link!  that solved it
[01:36] <PadNet_201> Pagos, no sound at all or no sound from an audio file?
[01:36] <ImEunify_> im back. i try booting ubuntu that i have on a usb with my mac. but everytime it gives me 'Non-System File' 'Press Any Key To Reboot'
[01:36] <PadNet_201> and did you logout and back in
[01:36] <Jofironses> Does someone know what a desktop shell is?
[01:36] <Pagos> PadNet_201, no sound at all
[01:36] <deeprogram> hi ? I have program with network
[01:37] <Physicist> Bye.. Exiting without support again.
[01:37] <PadNet_201> Pagos, have you logged out and back in, or restarted after installing pulse audio?
[01:37] <deeprogram> I get "no network devices available"
[01:37] <PadNet_201> Pagos, and did you remove alsa as well?
[01:37] <deeprogram> did you have same program before ?
[01:38] <Pagos> PadNet_201, I have not as I have a critical process running right now... I will log out and back in when that is done
[01:38] <Physicist> dr_willis, You are one of the most able to help.
[01:38] <PadNet_201> Pagos, yea that is necessary i believe
[01:38] <Jofironses> I was checking this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_%28computing%29 out but could not understand why Unity is a shell while KDE for example is not
[01:38] <Physicist> Thank you anyway.
[01:39] <Pagos> PadNet_201, okay. I will come back once this process is done
[01:40] <escott> Jofironses, yeah some of those seem a bit ill defined
[01:40] <Jofironses> indeed
[01:40] <escott> Jofironses, traditionally a pure WM just handles the windows and does not dictate any auxilarly programs that make a "desktop environment"
[01:41] <Physicist> escott, Exist problem install updates after ATI driver?
[01:41] <escott> Jofironses, they seem to be using the term "shell" to indicate the a window manager that is integrated into a desktop environment, but is not the official/primary wm for that desktop
[01:41] <Physicist> kernel updates..
[01:42] <escott> Jofironses, but if that is the case I would think that E17 is in the wrong section. it should be either a WM or a desktop but its certainly not a shell in that sense
[01:42] <shwaiil> Q: One user account is corrupted, probably something todo with $HOME. Sound device is not available etc. I've run fsdk but it couldn't fix. I don't know what else to do. Ive created a new account and maybe I can just move files around, or should I use the liveCd to reinstall ubuntu 12.10 ? Thanks for looking!
[01:42] <Jofironses> I see
[01:42] <ImEunify_> can someone tell me why i keep getting "Non-System File Press any key to reboot" when i try to boot liveusb on a mac
[01:42] <escott> Jofironses, in the end its  a meaningless distinction
[01:42] <Jofironses> Well, thanks for clearing that up :)
[01:42] <jbroome> ImEunify_: i'm guessing it's because your liveusb isn't set up correctly
[01:42] <deeprogram> I download ubuntu server version from "http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?distro=server&bits=64&release=latest" but I get it "ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso" Why amd64 ?
[01:43] <DaemonicApathy> Because it is the 64-bit version, deeprogram.
[01:43] <jbroome> deeprogram: well, the "bits=64" part of the url seems to indicate taht's what you wanted
[01:43] <ImEunify_> jbroome: whats the correct way to set up the liveusb
[01:43] <cfhowlett> deeprogram, amd64 is the nomenclature for the 64 bit version ... nothing to do with AMD
[01:43] <Jofironses> escott: Still, unity is a desktop environment isn't it?
[01:44] <jbroome> ImEunify_: Not sure, i just diagnose the errors
[01:44] <escott> Jofironses, i would say unity is a desktop environment built off of the gnome3 foundation.
[01:44] <ImEunify_> jbroome: hmm alright thanks.
[01:44] <DaemonicApathy> I would say Unity is mainly a panel.
[01:44] <deeprogram> cfhowlett: thank you, I got it :)
[01:45] <Jofironses> all right, got it
[01:45] <CheBuzz> Ok.  I have a questoin.  I need to windows remote desktop to a box on a separate network.  I have a server on that network VPN into a different server.  I also can SSH into the non-windows box.  Anybody know the port-forwarding SSH magic to let me remote desktop into that machine?
[01:45] <escott> Jofironses, ie Unity is not "just a window manager" (in fact compiz is still the window manager) nor is it "just a launcher" and you would not use it without all the associated gnome programs. that makes it a desktop environment as opposed to a pure window manager like blackbox
[01:45] <DaemonicApathy> CheBuzz: Forwar port 22.
[01:46] <DaemonicApathy> Scratch that, thinking ssh.
[01:46] <DaemonicApathy> CheBuzz: You might want to ask in a windows channel.
[01:46] <CheBuzz> Oh wow, there are windows IRC channels?
[01:46] <DaemonicApathy> Of course.
[01:46] <ImTheDude> how do i get face book to post pics ?
[01:47] <DaemonicApathy> ImTheDude: How would we know? We only know Ubuntu.
[01:47] <CheBuzz> Didn't know that.  But it's not windows that I need.  I need to somehow port forward with SSH so to my Linux server on that network so that my local machine can remote desktop into the Windows server on that network.
[01:47] <DaemonicApathy> CheBuzz: Using what program?
[01:47] <ImTheDude> i can't get the face book in my linux to upload picture to face book im running ubuntu
[01:47] <CheBuzz> SSH, preferably.
[01:48] <shwaiil> when running fsck I got something like UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e., without -a or -p options)
[01:48] <CheBuzz> Every other port is closed off.  My only way into that network is through SSH to the Linux box.
[01:48] <escott> shwaiil, have you checked your SMART status
[01:48] <cfhowlett> ImTheDude, this is not facebook support...
[01:48] <Jofironses> escott: Something I still didn't understand correctly, is it not metacity the display manager of unity? Or maybe it is only for unity 2d?
[01:49] <shwaiil> escott: tks for looking. I didnt found that option, I had run ubuntu or install ubuntu, I went to install and I had the option to check the partitions and stuff so I wasnt sure what to do
[01:49] <escott> Jofironses, for 2d they might use metacity (in fact gnome2 uses metacity for 2d)
[01:49] <shwaiil> was there to check the SMART status ?
[01:49] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. I've got a couple of questions about Grub, that the HowTo pages don't answer. I have a LVM set up on my other partition (running Fedora). So, when I do update grub, will it automatically load the LVM modules, or do I need to preload them? I'm basing the question on an error I was receiving about using the device mapper flag, and this link:http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2#Booting_from_LVM_Logical_Volumes (which I
[01:49] <PatrickDickey> realize is for Gentoo, but it's the only thing I'm finding).
[01:49] <DaemonicApathy> CheBuzz: Are you planning on using a GUI, or a command line?
[01:49] <escott> shwaiil, "disk utility" will have a SMART status button
[01:49] <deeprogram> hi ? Can I re-install ubuntu and keep user data ?
[01:49] <PatrickDickey> deeprogram: Did you create a separate /home partition?
[01:50] <cfhowlett> deeprogram, if your users data is in a separate /home partition, yes
[01:50] <Jofironses> escott: Ok, thanks again :)
 Commandline to launch rdesktop.
[01:50] <shwaiil> escott: disk utility. ok i'll reboot and try to find that tks
[01:50] <deeprogram> yes
[01:50] <escott> shwaiil, reboot?
[01:51] <escott> shwaiil, how are you logged into the system right now
[01:51] <DaemonicApathy> CheBuzz: Ok then, the only port forwarding that I know would be needed is port 22 for SSH. Beyond that, no clue.
[01:51] <jimi_> I installed the RTS5229 driver, modprobed' it, saw  it loaded in dmesg, but when insert a sd card, nothing is mounted and i dont see any new entries in /dev/sd*
[01:51] <shwaiil> escott: created a new acc, im admin
[01:51] <escott> shwaiil, ok. (a) NEVER fsck a running disk
[01:52] <escott> shwaiil, (b) you can just run "disk utility" right now
[01:52] <shwaiil> yeah try to remember the name of the disk utility Ive installed before, i'll do that
[01:52] <PatrickDickey> shwaiil: In the menu, it's called Disk or Disks (not Disk Utility).
[01:53] <shwaiil> PatrickDickey: thank you
[01:53] <PatrickDickey> shwaiil: no problem.
[01:54] <deeprogram> cfhowlett: thank you ! the /home mounted on /dev/sda1
[01:54] <shwaiil> escott: SMART self test ?! its running
[01:54] <cfhowlett> deeprogram, congrats!
[01:55] <escott> shwaiil, you should not need to run the self test. you just need the smart attributes
[01:55] <shwaiil> escott: my SSD is fine but the optical drive has errors in the read error rate
[01:56] <shwaiil> overal "Disk is OK, one failing attribute is failing"
[01:56] <escott> shwaiil, what is the "Overall Assessment" for the disk
[01:56] <escott> shwaiil, what attribute is failing
[01:56] <shwaiil> read error rate value 120760591
[01:56] <escott> shwaiil, could be a loose connector or bad cable
[01:57] <shwaiil> escott: this all started when I boot the computer and ubuntu seemed to be failling to mount the disk
[01:57] <shwaiil> I rebooted the computer and thats when I corrupted that user
[01:57] <shwaiil> the disk is not mounted though..but the user acc is corrupted
[01:57] <belundger> i would like to write a bash script to add multiverse to the end of each repo entry to sources.list, what would be the most elegant way to do this?
[01:58] <memand> when using rtorrent, is there a way to download a torrent to a different dir than the one that is set in the .rtorrent.rc ?
[01:58] <mobodo> I'm a bit confused - I think my system is not booting the right root (/) - is that set in grub or somewhere else on the boot partition?
[01:58] <holstein> shwaiil: maybe just remove or move the user config files out of the way
[01:58] <shwaiil> holstein: how to do that ?
[01:58] <ImEunify_> if anyone wants to try out 13.04 and cant find it here it is. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:58] <escott> shwaiil, not sure what to make of a high read error rate without remapped sectors but that could be a physical failure
[01:59] <mobodo> (it boots grub fine, but hangs right after doing just a few initializations steps when I choose to boot)
[01:59] <digitalfiz> hey guys I cant get the ubuntu cps to boot on my new gateway :( its a gateway dx4380g. I've tried 12.10, 12.04 and 12.04 alt with no go
[01:59] <jrib> ImEunify_: please don't paste that here.  You can discuss 13.04 while it's still being developed in #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <holstein> shwaiil: you will see them in the /home of the user account that is "corrupt".. some of them are in ~/.config ...others are in their own, like ~/.mozilla
[02:00] <fishtech> Hello!
[02:00] <cfhowlett> fishtech, greetings
[02:01] <shwaiil> holstein: rename it for example and then try to login to that user acc ?
[02:01] <shwaiil> escott: looks like the disk is failling the self test
[02:01] <fishtech> Never used a IRC really. Thought I would load it up and see what happens.
[02:02] <holstein> shwaiil: im assuming you have confirmed the issue is the user account.. when you say its corrupted, i assume you can login normally as another user
[02:02] <holstein> shwaiil: if the drive is failing, that is likely the issue...
[02:02] <cfhowlett> fishtech, general chitchat is in #ubuntu-offtopic  actual ubuntu support is here.  If you have  a specific question or contribute an answer, please submit.  otherwise, you are invited to read and learn.
[02:03] <shwaiil> holstein: I can login normally as another user, I can login to that "corrupt" account, for example the icon on the top right corner for the sound is displaying as if there was no sound, but there is actually. skype doesnt work though, or the list of devices doesnt exist really.
[02:03] <fishtech> Ah, ok. I'll go that channel, Thank you.
[02:03] <shwaiil> in the other acc everythings fine
[02:03] <holstein> shwaiil: so, blow out the user config, and test..
[02:03] <shwaiil> holstein: ok, after that if everything ok what can I do ?
[02:04] <deeprogram> hello ? can I install ubuntu from disk ISO ?
[02:04] <holstein> shwaiil: i usually keep the .config files, and put the ones i need back, carefully and one at a time, to find out which is bad
[02:04] <cfhowlett> deeprogram, explain ...
[02:04] <dr_willis> deeprogram:  you can set up grub2 to boot an ISO file.. if thats what you mean
[02:04] <bean__> deeprogram, you'll need to put it on some sort of external media.
[02:05] <shwaiil> oh ok cool Ill try to do that thanks holstein and thanks escott
[02:05] <shwaiil> I'll do that now, test it.
[02:05] <bean__> or maybe i'm wrong, if what dr_willis says is true
[02:05] <deeprogram> dr_willis: hmm, good idea
[02:05] <cfhowlett> deeprogram, check out pxe boot methods
[02:05] <dr_willis> you dont use tools like  deamontools or other mounters to install ubuntu..
[02:07] <isaias> can i install flash on this?
[02:08] <cfhowlett> isaias, this what?
[02:10] <dr_willis> watching HULU in flash right now... on  my 12.10 box.
[02:11] <holstein> !flash
[02:11] <holstein> isaias: ^
[02:13] <Fjodor3000> hey guys, i've got quite an odd (at least it seems odd to me) problem: thinkpad x230, 80GB windows7 NTFS partition, the rest of the 256GB ssd is unallocated. i prepared a usb stick with ubtunu 12.10. the install routine doesn't show me the 'install ubuntu alongside windows' option. the partitioning overview just gives me the full 256GB as one partition that's free, so only /dev/sda with 256GB free space shown. which is obviously n
[02:13] <Fjodor3000> but nautilus shows me my windows partition and can access it
[02:13] <Fjodor3000> what can i do?
[02:13] <k-stz> Anyone got 12.04 with radeon hd 6670 running?
[02:14] <cfhowlett> Fjodor3000, had the same issue.  my previous hackintosh required a gpt partition scheme and ubuntu didn't see it.  converting the gpt to mbr got me going.
[02:15] <cfhowlett> Fjodor3000, but I was on an HDD not ssd...
[02:15] <escott> Fjodor3000, its an efi issue
[02:15] <escott> Fjodor3000, your efi bios is probably booting the usb stick in efi mode but the ssd in bios emulation mode
[02:16] <Fjodor3000> hmm well, that would be very odd, because i deactivated efi completely
[02:16] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04..full install on a flash drive...no more install button...anyway to install from flash drive to hard drive ??
[02:16] <escott> Fjodor3000, accordingly the disk is partitioned in msdos format, but the installer sees that as non-bootable and expects a gpt partition
[02:16] <cfhowlett> Fjodor3000, deactivate not remove ...
[02:17] <cfhowlett> texla, check system > settings for Install Ubuntu
[02:17] <Fjodor3000> cfhowlett: deactivate, not remove - what?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> Fjodor3000, I think escott has the better explanation
[02:17] <Fjodor3000> ok
[02:18] <id10t> gonna temporarily switch back to ubuntu to try steam w/ no fuss/muss.  anyone have issues w/ 12.04 AMD64 and Steam?  or should I just go 32bit all the way?
[02:18] <Fjodor3000> escott: how can i convert the partioning?
[02:18] <escott> Fjodor3000, windows wont boot if you do. just change the boot preferences to boot the usb in the correct mode
[02:19] <dr_willis> 64bit 12.10 - steam - works here
[02:20] <Fjodor3000> escott: as i said, i deactivated efi completely, so i'm pretty sure i'm booting in legacy mode
[02:20] <escott> Fjodor3000, and what you are describing is completely consistent with your usb stick booting in efi mode
[02:20] <escott> Fjodor3000, check does /sys/firmware/efi exist?
[02:20] <texla> cfhowlett, No button in dash or system settings
[02:21] <escott> Fjodor3000, it might be /sys/firmware/uefi or something so just check that firmware directory
[02:21] <Fjodor3000> escott: i'm on the windows right now
[02:21] <Fjodor3000> but i'll check
[02:22] <Fjodor3000> there's one difference in my bios settings between now and half a year ago, when it easliy worked with 12.04: i had booth uefi and legacy activated half a year ago, with priority on legacy mode
[02:23] <cfhowlett> texla, I can't tell you exactly where to look as I'm on Xubuntu not ubuntu.  Your install option is there somewhere.  ask in this channel.
[02:24] <Fjodor3000> be right back ;)
[02:24] <eoss> hi, iptables is not saving restoring. i downloaded iptables-persistent and am saving rules in /etc/iptables/rules
[02:25] <eoss> can anyone offer any help? im on 12.04
[02:26] <eoss> sorry, 10.04
[02:27] <bean__> eoss, considered using UFW?
[02:27] <eoss> bean__: is there a non-gui of it
[02:27] <corneliusbennedi> out of curiosity is there a way to search for a certain user?
[02:28] <dr_willis> search where?
[02:28] <bean__> eoss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[02:29] <corneliusbennedi> im looking for a friend using a certain nickname but not sure what channel to look in
[02:29] <bean__> corneliusbennedi, call him?
[02:29] <Fjodor3000> ok, here i am on 12.10 live
[02:29] <dr_willis>   /whois nickname
[02:29] <corneliusbennedi> lol ok what i was thinking
[02:30] <eoss> bean__: its gonna terminate my ssh connection just to activate it..would rather stick with iptables
[02:30] <Fjodor3000> escott: this is my /sys/firmware directory: http://www.abload.de/img/screenshotfrom2013-029grto.png
[02:30] <bean__> eoss, valid. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo seems to be a decent explanation
[02:31] <eoss> bean__: been through all of that..not working at all im going to try one more time before throwing my machine out the window
[02:31] <code-ph0y> hey guys can someone give me a tutorial on getting java jdk?
[02:32] <holstein> !java
[02:32] <Fjodor3000> escott: and here is my partition: http://www.abload.de/img/screenshotfrom2013-02xqsal.png
[02:32] <bean__> eoss, okay, and your rules are in /etc/iptables/rules?
[02:32] <Fjodor3000> i checked my bios, it was on legacy only, i changed it to "both" with priorities set to "legacy first", so i should be fine i suppose!?
[02:36] <Comeonbady> quit
[02:36] <eoss> bean__: yep, and it overwrote my iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules with this http://pastebin.com/BYrxn4A8
[02:36] <Comeonbady> what
[02:37] <bean__> Comeonbady, the command is /quit
[02:37] <bean__> eoss, yeah, that looks right
[02:37] <Comeonbady> OK
[02:37] <eoss> bean__: but i then do iptables -L and my rules don't show up.
[02:37] <bean__> eoss, all i see in your rules file is some accepts
[02:38] <bean__> nothing specific to ports or anything
[02:38] <eoss> bean__: had -A INPUT -s <an ip> -j DROP before i saved it.
[02:38] <eoss> in the rules file
[02:38] <bean__> eoss, well, re-add that and re-iptables -save
[02:39] <bean__> eoss, is this on a server? or a desktop w/ network manager?
[02:39] <eoss> bean__: VPS
[02:40] <bean__> eoss, you should be able to iptables-restore </etc/iptables/rules
[02:40] <bean__> once you have it
[02:40] <bean__> to restore
[02:40] <dumb_dumb> i`m using Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-34-generic-pae i686)
[02:40] <dumb_dumb> but I can`t update the kernel to the latest
[02:41] <Fjodor3000> thanks for your help, bye folks!
[02:41] <bean__> dumb_dumb, why not?
[02:41] <dumb_dumb> i got an error saying  No space left on device
[02:41] <dumb_dumb> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[02:42] <bean__> dumb_dumb, is your /boot full?
[02:42] <dumb_dumb> how to chek it?
[02:42] <dumb_dumb> i`m new in linux
[02:42] <bean__> on a terminal df -h
[02:42] <dumb_dumb> yes it seems full
[02:42] <Volta> test, test..
[02:42] <dumb_dumb> any solution to clear it?
[02:42] <dr_willis> 1+1. 2+2
[02:43] <dr_willis> clean out unneeded files
[02:43] <dr_willis> apt-get clean, apt-get autoremove ,
[02:43] <dumb_dumb> already used that command but it`s not working
[02:44] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/31667/what-does-no-apport-report-written-because-maxreports-is-reached-already-mean
[02:44] <dr_willis> figure out whats taking up so much space.
[02:44] <dumb_dumb> i have to delete all the log there?
[02:45] <tangomike> dumb_dumb: open terminal, type df -h, tell us what it says
[02:45] <dumb_dumb> it say /dev/sda1             228M  221M     0 100% /boot
[02:46] <tangomike> you need to remove some old kernels
[02:46] <dr_willis> one of the reasons i dont use a seperate /boot/ these days
[02:47] <dumb_dumb> tangomike how could i do it?
[02:47] <bean__> ^ _1
[02:47] <bean__> +1*
[02:47] <dr_willis> apt-get remove old-kernel-packages
[02:47] <bean__> the most user friendly way is probably for him to install ubuntu tweak
[02:47] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[02:47] <bean__> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/remove-old-kernels-from-ubuntu-12-10-with-ubuntu-tweak/
[02:49] <k1ng> how do i get the old gnome?
[02:49] <k1ng> i hate the stupid sidebar and top
[02:50] <k1ng> sidebar is ok
[02:50] <k1ng> i hate the top bar
[02:50] <dr_willis> k1ng:  gnome2 is dead. thers fallback modes.. and unity works fine once you get used to it.
[02:50] <dr_willis> what top bar do you mean
[02:50] <dr_willis> if you mean the 'global menu' feature. thats disabablel
[02:50] <dr_willis> dis-able-able.. ;)
[02:51] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu/10627#10627
[02:51] <k1ng> i think that is it. global application menu
[02:52] <fuleo> running tail -f *.log from a remote location.  is a good idea ?
[02:52] <bean__> fuleo, no reason that its a bad idea.
[02:52] <fuleo> 400 log files, each about 1-3 mb in size... and incremeting by 6kb every 1hr.
[02:53] <fuleo> just wondering if it would affect the network I'm on...
[02:53] <k1ng> dr_willis, http://puu.sh/24Sxn
[02:53] <escott> fuleo, depends on the network
[02:55] <dumb_dumb> i`l try using sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic
[02:55] <dumb_dumb> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[02:55] <dumb_dumb> The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic-pae but it is not going to be installed - E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[02:56] <dumb_dumb> when trying to used apt-get -f install i got the same error again No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[02:56] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/31667/what-does-no-apport-report-written-because-maxreports-is-reached-already-mean
[02:57] <dr_willis> clean out old reports
[02:58] <dumb_dumb> the directory is already empty on /var/crash
[02:58] <atrius> anyone who knows anything about ldap+kerberos around?
[02:59] <p5mith> what happened to the "off topic" chan?
[02:59] <dr_willis> !ot
[03:00] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic still there p5mith
[03:00] <dr_willis> Nothing that ive heard of p5mith
[03:01] <phunyguy> does anyone know where the rhythmbox config files are stored? I googled for the location, and they aren't where they should be anymore  (Yes I am showing hidden files and folders)
[03:01] <dr_willis> .config would be my guess phunyguy
[03:01] <escott> phunyguy, where should they be
[03:01] <phunyguy> looked there.
[03:02] <phunyguy> escott, /.local/share/rhythmbox/ ~/.cache/rhythmbox/ ~/.gconf/apps/rhythmbox/
[03:02] <phunyguy> that was what google told me
[03:02] <phunyguy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7979/how-can-i-reset-all-rhythmbox-preferences-and-library-information
[03:03] <tangomike> phunyguy:  find ~ -name rhythmbox
[03:04] <phunyguy> hrmmm
[03:04] <escott> phunyguy, the gconf stuff would move to dconf potentially
[03:04] <phunyguy> /home/phunyguy/.local/share/rhythmbox  -  /home/phunyguy/.cache/rhythmbox
[03:05] <phunyguy> hmm... is there an easy way to mess with dconf?
[03:05] <phunyguy> and browse settings?
[03:05] <baby_> what  is uninstall  soft?
[03:06] <dr_willis> baby_:  what?
[03:06] <baby_> uninstall
[03:07] <baby_> software
[03:07] <phunyguy> =D  I found it.  opened dash and typed dconf - derp..
[03:07] <dr_willis> software center
[03:07] <eoss> bean__: ok i got iptables save and restore working, but its not saving on reboot?
[03:07] <bazhang> !software | baby_ have a read
[03:07] <dr_willis> !manual | baby_
[03:07] <eoss> bean__: and i thought that was the point of iptables-persistent
[03:07] <bean__> eoss, it should be
[03:07] <bazhang> baby_, speak in complete sentences, please.
[03:07] <bean__> eoss, they're saved right?
[03:08] <baby_> OK
[03:08] <KxTwo> anyone in here use snes9x, no one active in the #
[03:08] <bean__> KxTwo, you were here last night. Did you try an old version?
[03:09] <eoss> bean__: yep
[03:09] <KxTwo> bean__, getting zsnes to work was troublesome so I switched to snes9x and it works MUCH better BUT I cant figure out how to fast forward lol
[03:09] <bean__> eoss, so, /etc/init/iptables-* exists? or something in /etc/init related to iptables
[03:09] <KxTwo> nvm I found it!  its called turbo rah!
[03:10] <KxTwo> in case anyone asks, snes9x seems to be the superior emulator for ubuntu
[03:10] <eoss> bean__: no that does not exist...
[03:10] <dr_willis> Ive rarely had issues with zsnes. ;)
[03:10] <phunyguy> ok I found some settings but I am thinking I can't do what I want to do.  I have music stored on a share, and some stuff I want to keep local.  I want to store stuff added locally to rhythmbox in ~/Music/local, and have it still import stuff from ~/Music as a whole.
[03:10] <phunyguy> I have the server share symlinked there as "Main Collection"
[03:12] <KxTwo> dr_willis, I didn't either at first but its buggy with many games, snes9x is actually superior in video quality and sound Im quite surprised
[03:12] <eoss> bean__: so what do i have to do? i thought iptables-persistent took care of that
[03:13] <bean__> eoss, then it would seem that package didnt do anything
[03:13] <dr_willis> theres only about 6 snes games i ever play. ;)
[03:13] <phunyguy> actually I think I found that too... org.rhythmbox.library.add-dir
[03:13] <phunyguy> I will try and let you know
[03:13] <savagecroc> i'm looking at switching to ubuntu for my desktop env but... is it true that dash (which i'm guessing is the equivilent of osx's spotlight) sends everything you search for to their servers?
[03:14] <ExceptionlCatch> hi, does anyone have any experience booting the latest ubuntu on a mac pro desktop using the usb installer? after selecting try ubuntu from grub it whirls for a bit and then stops with a black screen
[03:14] <CavalierPrime> savagecroc it sends anonymous data unless you disable it in privacy settings
[03:14] <Vivekananda> Hi everyone. I am trying to upgrade to 12.04 an it needs more disk space?? I have a partitioning / /home /cache. Which space should I free ?
[03:14] <savagecroc> oh right.. so you can just switch it off?
[03:14] <CavalierPrime> yes
[03:14] <savagecroc> so whats the big whinge-fest about then
[03:14] <dr_willis> !adlens
[03:14] <CavalierPrime> it is on by default is the big uproar
[03:14] <wookey> savagecroc: it being on by default?
[03:15] <dr_willis> People just like to rant about things
[03:15] <savagecroc> wookey: oh right.. but isint' equivilent to something like google instant search?
[03:15] <ExceptionlCatch> Vivekananda: depending on the situation it is possible to use a symlink to store the rest of the data on another partition. or, if lvm is used there are commands to resize the partitions
[03:15] <dr_willis> if apple had came up with it.. then it would be the best thing since the toaster oven...
[03:16] <bean__> eoss, so there is no /etc/init/iptables-persistent.init ?
[03:16] <Vivekananda> ExceptionlCatch: Which partition needs more space for the install? Should I free up / or /home ??
[03:16] <wookey> if apple had come up with it, it'd be evil like most things they do.
[03:16] <escott> Vivekananda, usually /home because you will keep your music files there, but not always
[03:17] <ExceptionlCatch> Vivekananda: make sure to create a backup
[03:17] <Vivekananda> So I should free up home so that the upgrade runs smoothly
[03:17] <Vivekananda> backup of \home I already have
[03:17] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. I tried to install nvidia-experimental-304, and the install failed. I restarted, and now I can't log into a GUI. How to fix?
[03:18] <dr_willis> login in at the console. remove the package perhaps.
[03:18] <Vivekananda> but I am not sure how I create a back of programs I installed via a .deb package and which is  not in the repos. Also not sure if they will run after the upgrade
[03:18] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: I removed and purged the offending packages via apt-get in a tty shell.
[03:18] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  check your xorg.conf also.. rename it. if it exists
[03:18] <stan879nz> can someone give me a link to help understand the way the file system works eg. when i install a program were does it install to
[03:19] <escott> Vivekananda, you backup the deb file, but you should look for an updated deb for your new release
[03:19] <escott> !fhs | stan879nz
[03:19] <stan879nz> thanks
[03:19] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: this would be in /etc/X11?
[03:20] <dr_willis> yes
[03:20] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: should I also move/rename the failsafe?
[03:20] <escott> econdudeawesome, no
[03:21] <escott> econdudeawesome, at least not at first
[03:21] <econdudeawesome> escott, dr_willis: away I go. I might be back :D
[03:22] <dumb_dumb> dr_willis
[03:22] <dr_willis> moo?
[03:22] <dumb_dumb> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:22] <dumb_dumb> linux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic-pae but it is not going to be installed
[03:22] <dumb_dumb> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:23] <dumb_dumb> i`ll kept getting those error when trying to remove the kernel
[03:23] <dr_willis> you are not trying tro remove kernels you are currently using are you?
[03:24] <eoss> bean__: something is in /etc/init.d: iptables-persistent, but its still not restoring on reboot
[03:24] <dr_willis> and you did try a sudo apt-get -f install   like it suggests?
[03:24] <dumb_dumb> yes still gave the same error
[03:24] <bean__> eoss, hmm, and /etc/init.d/iptables-persistent start works?
[03:25] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis, escott: I am back. Now it will log into lightdm, but when I type in the password and try differing sessions (Gnome3, unity, xmonad) it logs in, goes black, then comes back around to lightdm
[03:25] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  see if a new user. or the guest user works
[03:25] <econdudeawesome> by log into lightdm, I mean it comes up. When _I_ log into lightdm, this happens
[03:25] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: I don't know how to do that. I only have one user on the computer
[03:26] <Malsasa> Hello, now lintian says E prerm-calls-updatemenus, whats wrong if i filll my prerm file with  what written in http://lintian.debian.org/tags/postinst-does-not-call-updatemenus.html ?
[03:26] <dr_willis> add a new user via the console.
[03:26] <eoss> bean__: yep, my rule shows after that command
[03:26] <dumb_dumb> http://pastebin.com/NZbZtr7y
[03:26] <webdesserts> When I launch a web app like gmail, and then hit it in the launcher again, instead of focusing on the currently openned web app, it launches a new gmail
[03:26] <goonsquad> GOONSQUAD RUNZ
[03:27] <webdesserts> is there a reason for this? Is this something they plan on fixing?
[03:27] <bean__> eoss, then "update-rc.d iptables-persistent defaults"
[03:28] <eoss> bean__: " System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/iptables-persistent already exist." "update-rc.d: warning: iptables-persistent stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none)"  "update-rc.d: warning: iptables-persistent start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match LSB Default-Start values (S)"
[03:29] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: so I added a new user "temp", but i don't see where to add a password/groups.
[03:29] <DaemonicApathy> webdesserts: I believe that's intended, when the focus is already on the only open instance.
[03:29] <bean__> hmm, eoss, then it is running the start, at bootup
[03:29] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  i just use  sudo adduser billgates
[03:29] <bean__> im not sure what to tell you.
[03:29] <eoss> bean__: what the heck >.<
[03:29] <eoss> bean__: ok well i gotta go, thanks for the help anyway
[03:29] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: how do you log in? Lightdm isn't accepting a blank password
[03:29] <bean__> eoss, what sort of VPS?
[03:29] <eoss> bean__: thrustVPS
[03:30] <dr_willis> i set a password for my test users
[03:30] <webdesserts> DaemonicApathy: I think you read my question wrong
[03:30] <eoss> bean__: openVZ i think
[03:30] <webdesserts> I expect it to focus on the openned app
[03:31] <webdesserts> instead it opens a new one
[03:31] <eoss> bean__: well, later
[03:32] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: ok, that seems to be working (accidentally did "useradd" instead of "adduser" initially). How then do I fix my main account? or should xorg.conf be remade now?
[03:32] <phunyguy> I guess I will just use sound-juicer to extract CDs, and not rhythmbox
[03:32] <escott> webdesserts, make sure the firefox integration plugin is installed and enabled in firefox
[03:32] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  if the new user works.. and the other user does not.. that points to a problem with the old users setting files in their home directory..
[03:32] <phunyguy> rhythmbox isn't very intuitive with it's options
[03:32] <webdesserts> escott, I'm using chrome
[03:33] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  start by moveing/checking the .Xauthority file, and perhaps move it and .config  to a Backup directory
[03:33] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: Okay. Any idea where I'd look? which .config?
[03:33] <escott> webdesserts, ok then the appropriate chrome plugin
[03:33] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  make sure nothing is owned by root also.
[03:33] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  id start by moving all of .config to a backup directory
[03:33] <dr_willis> and .Xauthority
[03:34] <webdesserts> escott, it is. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to pin my web apps to launcher in the first place I beleive
[03:34] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: no .Xauthority it appears
[03:35] <dr_willis> ~/.Xauthority   - normally exists.. weird its not there
[03:35] <elisa87> Hi dr_willis do you know why I receive this error? configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[03:35] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: indeed. I moved ~/.config to a new file, but login at lightdm still now successful
[03:35] <escott> webdesserts, i'm not that surprised it doesn't work. its a difficult problem to solve
[03:35] <dr_willis> elisa87:  you installed the needed C compiler packages? such as build-essential?
[03:36] <escott> webdesserts, the browser gets asked to show "www.gmail.com" but has to realize that "www.gmail.com" is the same as the existing open window "https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&shva=1#inbox"
[03:36] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  huh? it works or not? ;)   if not  try moving other .* config files to a backup directory  like .local and .compiz
[03:36] <elisa87>  sudo yum install gcc gcc-c++ kernel-devel returns this No package gcc-c++ available. dr_willis I don't know what are the necessary packages I am running this command ./configure CC="gcc -m32" CXX="g++ -m32" MPICXX="mpicxx -m32" --host=i686-linux --prefix=/home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/install --with-externals=/home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/hpctoolkit-externals-5.3.2-r3950/BUILD/i686-linux  --with-papi=/home/jalal/Desktop/parboil/pap
[03:36] <dr_willis> elisa87:  yum?  where did that come from?
[03:37] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[03:37] <Vivekananda> escott: What to do I save along with /home so that I can reinstall the other programs I have my lucid now?
[03:37] <elisa87> dr_willis build-essential is installed sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:37] <escott> webdesserts, i honestly doubt app-tabs will ever work that well with a RESTful framework
[03:37] <dr_willis> !info yum
[03:37] <cfhowlett> me ... ummm, yum?
[03:37] <dr_willis> why are you using yum?
[03:37] <elisa87> dr_willis bash: !info: event not found --- because I was following a manual
[03:38] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: we're back in business
[03:38] <econdudeawesome> much thanks
[03:38] <dr_willis> elisa87:  !commands are BOT commands.. and sounds like you are following the wrong manual
[03:38] <econdudeawesome> .Xauthority wasn't a folder, but a file--mea culpa
[03:38] <escott> !clone | Vivekananda
[03:38] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  yes.. its a file. ;) that often gets owned by root. for some reason
[03:39] <elisa87> ok what should I do? dr_willis?
[03:39] <escott> !gksudo | econdudeawesome
[03:39] <bean__> elisa87, where did you get the yum command from
[03:40] <econdudeawesome> escott: I appreciate that, but I reckon that was for elisa87?
[03:40] <escott> econdudeawesome, no you had a problem with Xauthority
[03:40] <Vivekananda> escott: anything else I should know about before upgrading ?
[03:40] <econdudeawesome> escott: Not quite, I think. I had an issue that lightdm would fail to log in. I moved .Xauthority
[03:40] <elisa87> bean__ Idk!
[03:40] <econdudeawesome> escott: but anyway. Thanks yall!
[03:40] <Vivekananda> I also have wine installed too :(
[03:41] <escott> econdudeawesome, and you moved Xauthority because it was root owned right?
[03:41] <bean__> elisa87, yum is not something we use on ubuntu.
[03:41] <escott> econdudeawesome, and it was root owned because you didnt use gksudo when you should have
[03:41] <ImEunify> so its official i cannot get any type of linux distro to boot up on my mac via liveusb
[03:41] <holstein> ImEunify: i didnt think they booted USB.. i would try plop
[03:42] <cfhowlett> ImEunify, virtualbox then
[03:42] <holstein> ImEunify: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[03:44] <elisa87> dr_willis bean__ do you think you can recognize the problem by looking at conf.log ?
[03:44] <bean__> what is conf.log o.o
[03:44] <bean__> or where is that located
[03:45] <ImEunify> holstein: what does plop do?
[03:45] <dr_willis> elisa87:  im not even sure what you are trying to do.. but any guide that uses YUM is not for Ubuntu
[03:45] <phunyguy> I FIGURED IT OUT!  Rhythmbox by default extracts to the first entry in dconf under org.gnome.rhythmbox.rhythmdb.locations - so I just created an entry for 1.) ~/Music/Locally Stored, 2.) ~/Music/Main Collection (symlink to share), and 3.) Ubuntu One store - and they all show up under Music > in Rhythmbox.
[03:46] <phunyguy> WIN.
[03:46] <holstein> ImEunify: plop boots from CD, and lets you select a USB to boot.. from lagacy gear, or anything cd's boot on and not USB
[03:47] <ImEunify> holstein: so it will let me boot from USB. cause my dvd drive is sorta broke and it wont read disk..
[03:47] <phunyguy> thanks for the hand-holding guys
[03:47] <phunyguy> I appreciate it.
[03:47] <miroesq> I'm trying to copy files via ssh to my ubuntu server logging in as testacct and am getting  permission errors. I have added my user to the chown group with "sudo adduser testacct www-data" and did a sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/ but that did not help.
[03:47] <holstein> ImEunify: i use it for that, though this link should outline it pretty well http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html ...AFAIK, apple machines dont usb boot
[03:48] <escott> miroesq, did you set the setuid bit on the directory
[03:48] <miroesq> escott: no idea what that is
[03:48] <holstein> ImEunify: you can take the hard drive out and install on another machine, and put it back. you can use plop, and you should try even if the dvd is kind of questionable
[03:48] <ImEunify> holstein: thanks ill give it a try and see if it works. does it work with backtrack 5?
[03:49] <escott> miroesq, you probably want setuid/setgid on /var/www and subfolders. for the rest send us the output of "groups" and "ls -al /var/www"
[03:50] <miroesq> escott: thank you. i will google this setuid and figure out how to do it,
[03:50] <holstein> ImEunify: i would ask in a backtrack support channel.. but "it", assuming you mean plop, just loads a menu which, as the link i gave explains, boot a USB stick.. doesnt matter.. if the stick can boot, it whould boot
[03:50] <holstein> should*
[03:51] <ImEunify> holstein: thanks again ill give it a try and see if it works. :D ill come back if i have any problems
[03:51] <ImEunify> holstein: last time i try to boot a usb it kept giving me a 'non system file please press any button to boot' and i hope plop fixes it.
[03:52] <holstein> ImEunify: the machine cant boot USB
[03:53] <siebo> Hi, I'm installing some packages on a server running ubuntu server 10.04LTS, when I try to install certain packages, I get a message about:
[03:53] <siebo> Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 10.04.4 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release amd64 (20120214.2)'
[03:53] <siebo> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[03:53] <ImEunify> holstein: thats what always kept troubling me so..now that you gave me plop i hope it will fix that error and boot via usb :D
[03:53] <holstein> ImEunify: http://studyblast.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/guide-mac-os-x-lion-how-to-boot-a-linux-live-system-from-a-usb-drive-how-to-update-any-ocz-ssds-firmware/ for example.. but i used plop
[03:53] <siebo> when I googled, all of the info I found seemed to have to do with Ubuntu Software Center
[03:53] <siebo> how do I remedy this from the command line?
[03:54] <holstein> siebo: i would look at the sources, and see that you are not pointing to a disc
[03:54] <dr_willis> siebo:  comment out the cdrom entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <holstein> ^^ siebo
[03:54] <dr_willis> the software-sources tool make this a simple click click.. task. ;)
[03:55] <stan879nz> hello i am try to run multi copies of steam like i do on my pc using sandboxie is there something like this for ubuntu.
[03:55] <siebo> dr_willis: holstein thx
[03:55] <dr_willis>  head /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <dr_willis> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Alpha amd64 (20120724.2)]/ dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/
[03:55] <dr_willis> note the # comment character
[03:56] <dr_willis> stan879nz:  add a new user. run steam as that new user at the same time perhaps
[03:57] <stan879nz> thanks dr_willis ill look into that
[04:08] <ImEunify> holstein: do you have the link on how to install it to a usb.
[04:10] <shinobi_> greetings #ubuntu :)
[04:12] <shinobi_> I am having a difficult time trying to identify a webserver daemon which is apparently running on my machine. I have so far identified a webserver called apache and stopped it with <sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop>
[04:12] <shinobi_> then I did nmap localhost
[04:12] <shinobi_> there is nothing on port 80 but there is something listening on port 443 ( SSL )
[04:13] <holstein> ImEunify: you dont.. you install it to cd
[04:13] <shinobi_> is there anything I could do to help zero in on this daemon which is preventing me from running the server of my choice? I tried looking in TOP and in the system monitor process list but thats not yielding anything helpful to me at this time
[04:14] <holstein> ImEunify: you install plop to cd, and then select the usb you make that you are having issue booting
[04:14] <elisa87> Do you know why I have this error? trampoline/x86-family/x86-tramp.S:31: Error: operand type mismatch for `push'
[04:15] <ImEunify> holstein: oh okay. can i use the cd on a windows computer to fix the usb then plug the usb into the mac to boot it..or do i have to do everything on the mac?
[04:17] <stan879nz> how do i make a user private were the programs used/installed by others are not visible and if they want them they will have to install them to there own user and are not visible  to others?
[04:18] <dr_willis> if users install apps to their home directories you can use the normal permssions/modes to not let others get to the files
[04:18] <holstein> ImEunify: i can only refer you to the documentation and tell you how and why i used plop... i used unetbootin to create a bootable usb.. the usb didnt boot due to the machines limitations. i used plop to make a bootable CD that would boot the usb
[04:19] <dr_willis> !permissions
[04:19] <stan879nz> thanks..
[04:20] <ImEunify> holstein: yea i know you can only refer me. but if you made a plop bootable cd to boot the usb. then how can i do that when my dvd drive doesnt work. thats why i thought plop was able to make a bootable usb
[04:20] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simplest-easy-way-to-jail-users might be relevant
[04:21] <holstein> ImEunify: if the mac cant boot USB, and has a bad optical drive, then, as i suggested, you can take the hard drive out and install on another machine.. or also as was suggested, virtualbox
[04:21] <DoYouKnow> how do I send an alert to the desktop with a bash script?
[04:22] <ImEunify> holstein: thanks ill try the different suggestions
[04:22] <holstein> DoYouKnow: notify-send ?
[04:22] <dr_willis> DoYouKnow:    notify-send "TEST MESSAGE."
[04:22] <DoYouKnow> ty
[04:24] <Tex_Nick> DoYouKnow:  I think Zenity will allow you to pop-up several types of gui dialogs ... if that's what you mean
[04:25] <DoYouKnow> yeah, that would be best
[04:25] <dr_willis> theres several ways to do it.
[04:26] <dr_willis> xterm -e 'echo This is a message ; read foo'   :)
[04:27] <cmcintosh> hey gang
[04:28] <cmcintosh> i got a odd question, where would i go to look/learn how to write a video driver for Xwindows, I realize this is probably more of a c++ question but been searching the webs with not a lot of resources on it
[04:28] <cmcintosh> i got a odd question, where would i go to look/learn how to write a video driver for Xwindows
[04:28] <dr_willis> look at the source code for existing video drivers.. and perhaps the x.org site
[04:30] <dumb_dumb> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-generic-pae:
[04:30] <dumb_dumb> linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic-pae; however:
[04:30] <dumb_dumb> Package linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic-pae is not installed.
[04:30] <dumb_dumb> how to remove that error?
[04:30] <dumb_dumb> i already success to upgrade kernel
[04:30] <dumb_dumb> now using 3.2.0-38-generic-pae
[04:31] <dumb_dumb> but why i still have that error?
[04:32] <dumb_dumb> dr_wilis any idea?
[04:32] <dr_willis> dont an apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[04:32] <dumb_dumb> apt-dist upgrade?
[04:32] <dr_willis> apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:32] <holstein> i might just try and install linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic-pae as well
[04:33] <dumb_dumb> holstein how to do that?
[04:34] <KamranMackey> Hello everyone :)
[04:35] <Core> Really basic question, but if I download Ubuntu on Windows 7 I still keep Windows 7, correct?
[04:35] <holstein> dumb_dumb: i would just search in the package manger of your choice.. maybe just sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic-pae
[04:35] <KamranMackey> If you want to keep Windows 7 you have to download the Windows installer.
[04:35] <KamranMackey> for Ubuntu
[04:35] <Core> That's what I did.
[04:35] <holstein> Core: if you download the iso in win7, then the iso is just there... like any other data
[04:35] <dr_willis> thats not true  KamranMackey
[04:35] <holstein> !wubi
[04:35] <holstein> OR, you can dual boot and keep windows
[04:36] <dr_willis> wubi installs inside windows.. you can instgall alongside - to seperate partitions.. thats the normal way
[04:36] <Guest46967> Howdy, I'm wondering if there is a straightforward generic way to create a system tray icon for any old process.  Or is that something that has to be baked into an application?
[04:36] <dumb_dumb> ok thanks for the suggestion
[04:36] <dr_willis> Guest46967:  check out the various 'indicator-applets' that exist. askubuntu.com has a list of them and some examples written in python you can tewek
[04:37] <KamranMackey> You mean tweak?
[04:37] <ryzzan> i have an hdd with a bad superblock and lvm fs... will it be possible to mount it on ubuntu?
[04:37] <MoPac> dr_willis: Thanks - I was probably screwing up by googleing for systerm tray rather than "indicator"
[04:38] <Core> Just making sure, the Windows Installer will keep my Windows installation alongside Ubuntu? I just choose whichever one I want at startup?
[04:38] <dr_willis> Core:  either way can do that.
[04:38] <dr_willis> but always make and have backups
[04:38] <dr_willis> i dont reccomend wubi.
[04:39] <Core> Why not, Dr_Willis?
[04:39] <nubwub> hello, is there a way to access a ubuntu wubi windows disk image? I am having troubles booting, and would like to modify some files?
[04:39] <dr_willis> Core:  its fragile and a pain.
[04:39] <nubwub> Core: ^ see my comment
[04:40] <Ryzzan> i have an hdd with a bad superblock and lvm fs... will it be possible to mount it on ubuntu?
[04:40] <dr_willis> nubwub:  you can mount the wubi disk image from a live cd via the loop back feature  of mount
[04:40] <dr_willis> lik eyou would with an ISO file
[04:40] <holstein> Ryzzan: i would grab a live CD and try it
[04:40] <dr_willis> !iso
[04:40] <Core> I just need Ubuntu for a day at the most.
[04:40] <nubwub> dr_willis: thanks!
[04:40] <holstein> Ryzzan: there will be nothing in ubuntu preventing you from mounting it in ubuntu
[04:41] <dr_willis> Core:  use a live-usb/cd with a persistant save file then
[04:41] <Core> What?
[04:41] <Ryzzan> holstein, i'm already using the hdd as slave under my ubuntu right now...
[04:41] <holstein> Ryzzan: cool.. so its mounted then..
[04:41] <Ryzzan> i know how to mount the lvm on ubuntu... but the deal is: it has a bad superblock... and it's not mounting
[04:41] <Core> I've never really done anything like this before, so I don't really know what that is.
[04:42] <Ryzzan> holstein, it's not mounted...
[04:42] <holstein> Core: i would just use the live CD... load it up live and use it like that
[04:42] <holstein> Ryzzan: then, i would try mounting in
[04:42] <nubwub> Core, I came in half way through your dicussion, so I do not know exactly what you are discussing regarding wubi, however I will say that dispite my current issue with it, it has performed quite well for me and would recommend it, especially if you only need it for light use
[04:43] <holstein> yeah, wubi is easily removed if you dont want it anymore
[04:43] <Ryzzan> holstein, already tried... but it says that the hdd has a bad superblock n it won't be mounted
[04:43] <holstein> Ryzzan: then, i would try repairing it.. i use the ultimate boot cd
[04:44] <superstalin> Hey all!
[04:44] <Ryzzan> holstein, any risk to lose my data using it?
[04:44] <superstalin> I'm having trouble getting flash to work, I've tried the various fixes and installed multiple browsers but whenever I go to youtube or any other flash dependent site it won't let me watch any videos, any ideas what may be going on?
[04:45] <dr_willis> flash is such a pain.
[04:45] <rkhshm> when i'm doing a read(/dev/myssd, buff, 512) does it mean i'm reading the same 512 bytes always or is it differnt
[04:45] <superstalin> I've noticed.
[04:45] <dr_willis> superstalin:  tried using the google-chrome browser?
[04:45] <superstalin> yeah
[04:45] <superstalin> Chromium and regular chrome
[04:45] <Malsasa> Hello, isthere any app for monitor my network traffic, in/out internet, both from wifi/cable lines? Thats app should be installed in Ubuntu server for monitoring my clients...
[04:45] <KamranMackey> Hmm, it's odd how your having issues...
[04:45] <rkhshm> i need an urgent answer .. can anyone please help
[04:46] <Malsasa> rkhshm: what is your question?
[04:46] <rkhshm> Malsasa: when i'm doing a read(/dev/myssd, buff, 512) does it mean i'm reading the same 512 bytes always or is it differnt
[04:46] <dr_willis> read? you mean  C++ code? or what ecxcatly?
[04:46] <rkhshm> dr_willis: C code
[04:46] <rkhshm> the read() call is what i'm talking about
[04:46] <holstein> Ryzzan: sure... i might use something like photorec to try and recover the data. from testdisk.. i also use that from the ulitmate boot cd
[04:47] <superstalin> Does everyone have these flash issues?
[04:47] <dr_willis> there is the ##C channel and ##programing i think
[04:47] <rkhshm> dr_willis: i'm talking about read(2)
[04:47] <tzarc> read advances the point forward
[04:47] <rkhshm> yeah those guys are acting up so gave up on that
[04:47] <tzarc> if you read 512 bytes, the next read will be after that 512
[04:47] <dr_willis> print out the reads and look and see what its doing? ;)
[04:47] <rkhshm> ok
[04:48] <rkhshm> so if i run the read(2) in a while loop its basically going to do a sequential read
[04:48] <rkhshm> is that correct
[04:48] <tzarc> yes
[04:48] <tzarc> make sure your loop exit conditions are correct though
[04:48] <rkhshm> tzarc: thank you very much.. i cannot believe how ppl act to answer questions..
[04:49] <rkhshm> yeah that's correct
[04:49] <tzarc> generally read will return how many bytes were indeed read, check against 512 and exit early if less than that
[04:49] <Dozam> Anyone have and suggestions for creating a mobile instal of Ubuntu? I'm trying to install several OSs to a USB 3.0 SSD drive to run from any computer and I want to ensure I do it correctly and set up for maximum usability and power...
[04:49] <Ryzzan> holstein, do u know any patition tool that deals with lvm?
[04:49] <dr_willis> Dozam:  You mean Live installs? or full normal installs?
[04:50] <Core> Thanks for the help guys.
[04:50] <Core> Seeya.
[04:50] <Dozam> Probibly full...but to be honest I'm not entirely sure of the differences...
[04:50] <holstein> Ryzzan: depends on how broken it is i suppose.. AFAIK, there are tools in the disc i mentioned for LVM
[04:50] <dr_willis> Dozam:  theres tools at the pendrivelinux site to do several live installs to the same usb drive.
[04:51] <dr_willis> a FUll install is the same asyou would install to a internal HD.
[04:51] <Dozam> ok, then yeah a full install
[04:51] <Ryzzan> holstein, ty
[04:51] <dr_willis> for swapping amount differnt pcs - you can get into driver issues with full installs.
[04:51] <eric2>  
[04:51] <Dozam> when I said multiple OSs, I meant Ubuntu/Win/Mac
[04:51] <dr_willis> Install to the SSD same as you would any other hd. pick one disrto to handle grub for all  of them
[04:52] <dr_willis> Im not even sure that windows can run from an external USB
[04:52] <dr_willis> same for Mac.
[04:52] <Dozam> well less worried about windows
[04:52] <holstein> Ryzzan: good luck.. photorec is quite nice, assumin gyou can get at the LVM
[04:52] <dr_willis> Ubuntu definatly can
[04:52] <Dozam> mac can...it's just tricky
[04:53] <eric2> My dns server can not reslove several address, what is this problem?
[04:53] <Dozam> I at least want Ubuntu...what I'm trying to do is basically create a mobile work system that I can take and plug into any computer and boot into my workspace.
[04:55] <eric2> ?
[04:56] <stan879nz> thanks dr_willis for your help today cya
[04:56] <dr_willis> a FULL install moved amoung pcs can have issues with video card drivers and wifi drivers..
[04:57] <dr_willis> you would be best served by sticking to the open sourced drivers on a full-usb-mobile install
[04:57] <dr_willis> id also set up grub2 on the usb to boot the ISO file - just in case the normal boot fails
[04:57] <Dozam> so have the image on the drive as well?
[04:58] <dr_willis> yes. its likely you will find some pc that wont want to boot your full install.
[04:58] <Malsasa> Hello, isthere any app for monitor my network traffic, in/out internet, both from wifi/cable lines? Thats app should be installed in Ubuntu server for monitoring my clients...
[04:58] <dr_willis> the iso file/boot will at least let you boot to ubuntu  live
[04:59] <Dozam> ok, so I'll admit (if it isn't obvious already) I'm new-ish to linux/Ubuntu. What exactly is grub2?
[04:59] <dr_willis> !grub2
[05:00] <Dozam> Nice! thanks
[05:01] <Vivekananda> hey everyone How do I create a diskimage for my system partition. I want to upgrade from lucid to pangolin( is it ? 12.04 ?) and then to get back all my software inside it. Does this seem like a good plan of how to upgrade??
[05:02] <dr_willis> backup imporntant data in your home. and reinstall   is what i do normally
[05:05] <Tex_Nick> Vivekananda:  you might also consider segregating your home dir onto another partition or drive ... if you have that option
[05:06] <Dozam> So I used to be a command line master back in the days of DOS, but I'm totally lost now and I know that Linux has different keywords and such. is there a good primer for linux command line/console?
[05:06] <dr_willis> !bash
[05:06] <dr_willis> !backup
[05:07] <holstein> Vivekananda: you dont do an image for that.. you just backup your data.. you literally drag you data over to another hard drive, and drag it back
[05:07] <dr_willis> external usb hd. :) makes it handy
[05:08] <holstein> Dozam: i just started doing things in the command line.. when i want to make text files.. or move files.. or delete for example
[05:08] <Vivekananda> holstein: If I do that for the root partition will it work as an installed op system if suppose I format the root and then just copy the data back ?
[05:09] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you have a seperate /home partition, i would still backup the data
[05:09] <Dozam> ok, that makes sense. That's essentally how I learned DOS
[05:09] <dr_willis> people get so windows-trained thinking  its hard to reinstall apps...
[05:10] <Vivekananda> I have a separate /home and I have that backed up. I aam pretty sure that folder backup of the root and not the folder partition and its restore will not be the same as installing the OS.
[05:10] <Vivekananda> Ie it wont work as the os if I just copy and paste folders back
[05:11] <holstein> Vivekananda: it can, assuming you get the proper folders, and put them back properly, and the permissions are as expected
[05:11] <dr_willis> I rarely  backup the stuff on / ;) i may keep some custome configs backed up somewhere. if  ive done any special tweaks.. rarely..
[05:11] <holstein> Vivekananda: linux/ubuntu is open.. its all there.. so anything, expecically full recover, is usuallly possible
[05:11] <dubz> nick lawlz
[05:11] <chaz68> I thought I fixed the xsession-errors huge log file issue but now I am getting huge log files in /var/log/upstart/lightdm.log.
[05:12] <lawlz> how do i get a files permission off of root
[05:12] <dr_willis> lawlz:  what?
[05:12] <Mishke> hi anybody :) which image-viewer use ubuntu on default?
[05:12] <chaz68> Anybody having this problem?  Feels like Ubuntu's version of Whack-A-Mole...
[05:12] <Vivekananda> holstein: Are you sure that the bootloader with grub installation that happens during an OS install will not be required if I simply copy folder from /  to suppose a new computer
[05:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: what would i do? back up my data.. *all* of it.. from the /home partition. then, if i had a seperate /home partition, i would try leaving it in place, knowing that i have a good backup of my data (not necessarily my settings)
[05:12] <dr_willis> chaz68:  cant say ive heard anyone in here with huge log file issues
[05:12] <chaz68> Thought logrotate should handle this...
[05:12] <lawlz> i have to use sudo to ftp so when i download stuff root has only permission
[05:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: no, im not sure of anything about your system.. but you can link whatever you like to help us help you decide
[05:13] <holstein> !grub | Vivekananda
[05:13] <dr_willis> ftping as root>? seems like a ftp server config issue/security hile.
[05:13] <holstein> ^^ i use that to restore grub if needed
[05:13] <chaz68> dr_willis:  actually the xsession-errors file is a fairly well-known bug it looks like...
[05:13] <lawlz> i cant download anything if i dont open it in root
[05:14] <lawlz> and when its downloaded its protected and pretty much useless to me
[05:14] <chaz68> I sprayed that down with a fix from the Community / Forum and now this lightdm.log is giving me problems.
[05:14] <dr_willis> lawlz:  seems.. weird to me.. whos ftp server is this?
[05:14] <lawlz> mine
[05:15] <dr_willis> sounds like you have it missconfigured if you have to ftp into it as root.
[05:15] <lawlz> no..
[05:15] <lawlz> 1 sec
[05:15] <Vivekananda> holstein: I am simply asking you this. Are you sure that installing a new os on a blank primary disk is the Same is copying all root files from another working system into the new blank disk. I dont think this is the case. If it were then we would need to create bootstrapping and bootloader partition and all that during an install process. What I mean to ask/say is that installing and copying are NOt the same in the case o
[05:15] <Vivekananda> f installing a new OS unless of course it is a diskimage you are copying. Also I already have /home back but that is irrelevant to the question isnt it ?
[05:16] <lawlz> the servers are fine... my laptop wont let me save anything from ftp unless i run the client in sudo...
[05:16] <dr_willis> and where are you saveing them to?
[05:16] <holstein> lawlz: maybe in places where you dont have permission
[05:16] <lawlz> my desktop
[05:16] <holstein> lawlz: i would say, ftp as root should be done with care, and maybe not at all
[05:16] <dr_willis> sounds like you got permissions all messed up somehow
[05:16] <lawlz> im only touching my own servers.
[05:16] <chaz68> lawlz:  Is this a big time FTP site or you just making a quick one for a few users?
[05:17] <lawlz> it is a mac in the other room...
[05:17] <lawlz> you
[05:17] <lawlz> ware
[05:17] <lawlz> all
[05:17] <holstein> lawlz: correct.. and you could cause an issue.. but, as long as you are aware and comfortable with the risk
[05:17] <lawlz> useless
[05:17] <dr_willis> ssh/sshfs may be a better solution
[05:17] <Guest23857> mkmdc
[05:17] <Guest23857> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:17] <dr_willis> wow.. we are useless because his ftp system is all messed up...
[05:18] <holstein> dr_willis: i dont think you are useless :)
[05:18] <Mishke> which image-viewer use ubuntu on default?
[05:18] <Guest23857> ,
[05:18] <chaz68> lawlz = tool
[05:18] <black101> hola
[05:19] <chaz68> dr_willis:  you read my mind on SSH / SSHFS... Was going to say the exact same...
[05:19] <black101> hola argentina
[05:20] <Tex_Nick> !es | black101
[05:21]  * Smok3 in about 10 seconds I will dos this server & shut it down.
[05:21]  * Smok3 just kidding lo
[05:21] <Smok3> lol
[05:21] <Smok3> IRC is awesome
[05:22] <AcidRain> lol
[05:22] <black101> mo hay nadie en ubuntu.es
[05:22] <Smok3> how can u tell how many ppl are in the chat
[05:22] <AcidRain> Smok3 sup dude
[05:22] <Smok3> like an exact #?
[05:22] <dr_willis> shows 1590 here..
[05:22] <AcidRain> Smok3 depends on the client. i show 1590
[05:22] <dr_willis> look at your irc clients info. ;)
[05:22] <AcidRain> i am using icechat. i dont like this client
[05:22] <Smok3> AcidRain..not much jc, new to the whole IRC thing and lovin it
[05:22] <dr_willis> !irc
[05:23] <Smok3> i use ubuntu through VMware..I'm really on a windows comp
[05:23] <Smok3> Although I wanna buy a comp w/ linux. It's awesome.
[05:23] <AcidRain> i too am currently on windows
[05:23] <Smok3> It's like a giant jailbroken iPhone
[05:23] <AcidRain> Smok3 not cool dude. dont compare linux to iphone
[05:23] <dr_willis> Hmm - i dont see anything like the iphone on ubuntu...
[05:23] <black101> no one in ubuntu.'s'm Argentine and is the first time you use this
[05:24] <dr_willis> it has icons! just like the iphone! ;P
[05:24] <Smok3> hahaha exactly! it is
[05:24] <AcidRain> lol
[05:24] <chaz68> iPhone bad ... Android good... Ubuntu Phone better...
[05:24] <mysteriousdarren> Smok3: well don't feel too bad, Im on a windows computer to a ubuntu server to a lubuntu host lol
[05:24] <Smok3> mysteriousdarren jesus thatsounds complicated lol
[05:24] <AcidRain> iphone -> asshole closed source horrible support. looks to create a slaved nation. android -> open source. loves people. no need for support since its google powered. ubuntu -> god
[05:25] <Smok3> AcidRain I agree  100&
[05:25] <Smok3> 100%
[05:25] <Smok3> that's why I compared it to a JAILBROKEN iPhone :)
[05:25] <chaz68> Ubuntu Phone = Nirvana.... http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/design
[05:25] <dr_willis> except for all the phone/tablet makers  locking android stuff down.
[05:25] <Smok3> totally different. It's free & no constraints
[05:25] <AcidRain> but a jailbroken iphone is a normal android... actually its 80% of a stock android
[05:25] <dr_willis> I will belive in the ubuntu phone.. when i can see one.. and theres no gurantees it will be totally open.
[05:25] <Smok3> is that so?
[05:26] <Smok3> How do you know that?
[05:26] <mysteriousdarren> Smok3: not really just on a server that I connect to so I never have to get off irc, and it says safe
[05:26] <Smok3> I've never heard that
[05:26] <chaz68> Ubuntu Phone - would like to see a real one in the wild... Anyone try loading it on their device?
[05:26] <AcidRain> ive had iphone. and ive had android. id pick the first android phone ever over the best jailbroken iphone
[05:26] <iceroot> chaz68: #ubuntu-phone
[05:26] <dr_willis> theres no real info/stuff out about the phone yet.. so we all will have to wait and see
[05:26] <Smok3> that would be awesome though
[05:27] <chaz68> iceroot:  thanks... didn't know they had a channel already...
[05:27] <AcidRain> dr_willis im pretty sure ive seen youtube videos of people loading ubuntu onto an android. also onto ps3 and xbox360
[05:27] <Smok3> call it UbuntuX
[05:27] <akiva-mobile> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my thinkpad x60 by installing the image on the ssd on my desktop, and then throwing it into the laptop. After doing this however, I can't get past my grub. Suggestions?
[05:27] <Smok3> "yo man that new phone UbuntuX is awesome, I just used aircrack-ng to hack my neighbor
[05:27] <Smok3> 's wifi"
[05:28] <Smok3> thats the main reason i installed ubuntu. To learn about linux and to use Aircrack-ng
[05:28] <AcidRain> there is currently no android device that allows for arp injection
[05:28] <dr_willis> AcidRain:  those are in a vm type thing. not the same as what  is supposed to be comming out
[05:28] <AcidRain> aircrack-ng is also a security testing tool. not a hacking tool ;)
[05:28] <Smok3> :)
[05:29] <Smok3> hahaha
[05:29] <Smok3> AcidRain do you know how to use it?
[05:29] <Smok3> for some reason it will not install correctly on my comp.
[05:29] <AcidRain> i actually wrote a tutorial on "testing your security" with aircrack in ubuntu
[05:29] <AcidRain> let me see if i can find it
[05:29] <Smok3> Do you  need the AirPcap card?
[05:29] <Smok3> that would be awesome
[05:29] <AcidRain> no
[05:30] <Smok3> well one big problem of mine is that my Ubuntu does not recognize my WiFi card. only ethernet
[05:31] <holstein> Smok3: you can run "lspci" in the terminal, and see that ubuntu likely does recognize it.. maybe the vendor has not provided linux drivers
[05:33] <Delux> any idea why sda2, which shows as part of a RAID in both mdadm --detail and /proc/mdstat but when listing with fdisk -l it does not show up and only shows sda1 ?
[05:39] <AcidRain> xchat is much better than icechat
[05:40] <AcidRain> and mirc blue screened me on windows xp
[05:42] <AcidRain> is channel dead or did mirc rly just hax me?
[05:42] <akiva-mobile> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my thinkpad x60 by installing the image on the ssd on my desktop, and then throwing it into the laptop. After doing this however, I can't get past my grub. Suggestions?
[05:42] <akiva-mobile> Sorry for the double post
[05:42] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, what do you see at grub screen?
[05:42] <holstein> AcidRain: you should ask in a windows channel about windows chat clients.. maybe try the offtopic channels for chat
[05:42] <akiva-mobile> The menu
[05:42] <akiva-mobile> As it should be
[05:43] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, and did you select the first option?
[05:43] <akiva-mobile> But loading an image just gets me the blinking _
[05:43] <akiva-mobile> Yes
[05:43] <holstein> akiva-mobile: can you get to grub? to a recovery console?
[05:43] <akiva-mobile> Yes
[05:43] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, do you have any external drives connected?
[05:43] <akiva-mobile> No.
[05:43] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, i rly cant help then. sry man
[05:44] <dr_willis> you can get xchat variants for windows . ;)
[05:44] <akiva-mobile> Acidrain I could perhaps void the ol external, and toss a working hdd in
[05:45] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, ? is there any external devices attached to your computer whatsoever?
[05:45] <akiva-mobile> I have a desktop and a lappy
[05:46] <akiva-mobile> Desktop is what I'm using to install the image on the ssd
[05:46] <AcidRain> based off your previous statement you still havent answered the question
[05:46] <akiva-mobile> Because the lappy has no cdrom
[05:46] <akiva-mobile> No external devices attached to lappy
[05:46] <akiva-mobile> Desktop is working.
[05:46] <holstein> akiva-mobile: maybe just install from USB on the "lappy"
[05:47] <AcidRain> lol. yeah. go get a usb man
[05:47] <akiva-mobile> Meh... I need it now
[05:47] <AcidRain> u dont have that ol thumb drive that everyone was required to buy in 9th grade?
[05:47] <AcidRain> :/
[05:47] <ChaozHenchman> when was your laptop made?
[05:48] <akiva-mobile> Those things last a year
[05:48] <holstein> akiva-mobile: i would try the recovery steps
[05:48] <akiva-mobile> Then the flash is totally corrupt.
[05:48] <holstein> akiva-mobile: the drive you are installing to?
[05:48] <akiva-mobile> Recovery steps?
[05:48] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, perhaps use a bash script to automatically backup flash drive to internal hdd when attached? ;)
[05:48] <holstein> akiva-mobile: in the recovery console you said you can get to from grub... for recovering the graphics, etc
[05:49] <robotnut> hi all
[05:49] <AcidRain> ive had a 1gig flash drive for 8yrs btw. just sayin
[05:49] <ChaozHenchman> I have one that's about 5 and a half years old
[05:49] <akiva-mobile> I hate typing on this phone. Look, my installation works. What doesn't work is when I take the installation, on the ssd, and throw it into the lappy
[05:50] <akiva-mobile> There, I make it to the grub. After that, nothing.
[05:50] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, it doesnt work that way
[05:50] <iceroot> akiva-mobile: you changed the UUID in /etc/fstab and grub?
[05:50] <AcidRain> ^
[05:50] <akiva-mobile> No, I was looking at the grub before.
[05:50] <robotnut> anyone set up samba4 using win7pro clients?
[05:50] <akiva-mobile> Fstab
[05:50] <akiva-mobile> No idea what that is.
[05:51] <iceroot> !fstab | akiva-mobile
[05:51] <akiva-mobile> Uuid, that's all I need to change in both?
[05:51] <AcidRain> thats a start to identifying the issue
[05:51] <iceroot> akiva-mobile: there are a few other changes needed but to boot the system UUID should be enough
[05:52] <iceroot> akiva-mobile: what will not work is if you copied the installation to an UEFI-system
[05:52] <akiva-mobile> Can I just boot from bash, and sudo update-grub2?
[05:52] <iceroot> akiva-mobile: a live-cd is needed for that
[05:52] <akiva-mobile> I doubt this 20006 lappy has efi
[05:53] <iceroot> akiva-mobile: i guess in 20006 there are much more evil things then ust uefi ;)
[05:53] <akiva-mobile> So I can't just chang the boot params at my grub?
[05:53] <iceroot> akiva-mobile: of course, just press "e" on a line in grub to enter the edit mode
[05:54] <AcidRain> i hate terminal based editors
[05:54] <AcidRain> :(
[05:54] <akiva-mobile> And then, change appropriately to boot, and then once loaded, sudo update-grub2?
[05:54] <bulletrulz> yeah hi im trying to do something on skype im trying to make the input of the call my speakers how do i do it?
[05:55] <akiva-mobile> Stereomix.
[05:55] <bulletrulz> akiva-mobile, how do i do that?
[05:55] <akiva-mobile> Ie, you want todo soundboard prank calls.
[05:55] <akiva-mobile> Right?
[05:56] <bulletrulz> akiva-mobile, how did u know lol
[05:56] <dr_willis> !skype
[05:56] <akiva-mobile> Bulletrulz: are you serious?
[05:56] <dr_willis> I imaine it would be similer to the skype recording method
[05:56] <bulletrulz> akiva-mobile, yes but how to make it so the i can?
[05:57] <AcidRain> bulletrulz, buy a mic? :/
[05:57] <akiva-mobile> Its not easy, but its straightforward.
[05:57] <bulletrulz> ok akiva-mobile how to do it?
[05:57] <AcidRain> !google | bulletrulz
[05:57] <akiva-mobile> No, he wants t to stream his internal sound as his output on skype.
[05:57] <AcidRain> lol
[05:58] <bulletrulz> yea i wanna call people with dr.phil and be like hows it going
[05:58] <AcidRain> bulletrulz, id try using JACK audio
[05:58] <akiva-mobile> Bulletrulez, google is tough, cause you have to know the term
[05:58] <akiva-mobile> Search for stereomix ubuntu
[05:58] <bulletrulz> akiva-mobile, but you know how to do it?
[05:58] <bulletrulz> ok
[05:58] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may also have guides
[05:58] <akiva-mobile> I've done it
[05:58] <akiva-mobile> On windows and ubuntu
[05:58] <AcidRain> akiva-mobile, then again, you could google for the term, then make a proper google
[05:59] <robotnut> is there a UI for webmin to use samba4?
[05:59] <akiva-mobile> Sound is so bloody complicated on both though.
[05:59] <bulletrulz> akiva-mobile, wait wont the people im calling hear them selfs?
[05:59] <dr_willis> robotnut:  best to not use webmin
[05:59] <dr_willis> !ebox
[05:59] <AcidRain> i think google is the greatest thing ever. i have... perhaps 2 times in my entire life had to look past the first 3 google results based off my search
[05:59] <akiva-mobile> Bulletrulez that's why its complicated. What you do though
[05:59] <robotnut> webmin module preferred
[05:59] <dr_willis> !webmin | robotnut
[06:00] <akiva-mobile> Is you set your output on skype to something else.
[06:00] <robotnut> ubottu - what is the replacement then?
[06:00] <akiva-mobile> I wish you well on your journey ahead.
[06:00] <akiva-mobile> Although
[06:00] <bulletrulz> oh akiva-mobile
[06:00] <AcidRain> robotnut, if you want remote manegement, you should perhaps code it yourself. ive done it with a few things. webmin even warns you that it could break your system. and i think it was deemed unsecure
[06:00] <dr_willis> robotnut:  i said the altneartive just a few lines earlier,,
[06:00] <dr_willis> !ebox | robotnut
[06:01] <akiva-mobile> You can get away with calls with stereomix, just be careful.
[06:01] <akiva-mobile> Chinaman is good.
[06:01] <robotnut> ubottu - does it? support administering samba4
[06:01] <AcidRain> lol
[06:02] <robotnut> ooo interesting
[06:02] <robotnut> im gonna check this out
[06:02] <robotnut> thanks!
[06:02] <AcidRain> dr_willis, do you use ebox/
[06:02] <AcidRain> ?
[06:02] <dr_willis> i rarely need those things
[06:02] <AcidRain> !ebox
[06:06] <akiva-mobile> Bulletrulez you uploading to youtube?
[06:07] <AcidRain> bulletrulz, just remember that tampering with phone lines is a federal offence of minimal 2yrs to max 20. and skype "anonymous" calls are easily tracable by your local law enforcement with cooperation with your isp
[06:10] <napster> Is it possible to encrypt directories with gnupg?
[06:11] <akiva-mobile> Acidrain, meh, they can't really.
[06:12] <akiva-mobile> Acidrain some people have been doing it for years.
[06:12] <akiva-mobile> And there are even brave souls who called the police
[06:13] <akiva-mobile> One even threatened to blow their heads off with an ar15
[06:13] <akiva-mobile> He, though, I think was caught. They took that seriously.
[06:13] <cfhowlett> !ot
[06:14] <chaz68> hmmm... seems my lightdm.log settled down now.  Only 4K.
[06:14] <chaz68> Any of you see anything that would concern you in lightdm.log here:   http://pastebin.com/6N6M418D
[06:14] <thufir_> without using JPA's, how do I install oracle JDK 7?
[06:14] <dr_willis> its waiting for you to look the other way befo it starts logging again
[06:14] <dr_willis> thufir_:  download the packages from their web site. and install them
[06:15] <dr_willis> thats what most of the ppa's do. - they just have scripts to automate it
[06:15] <chaz68> dr_willis:  probably right... But it was swelling like a mother by the minute all day today...  Now nothing...
[06:15] <thufir_> dr_willis: ok, thanks.  don't I have to set it as default, then, somehow?  I'm using netbeans.
[06:16] <dr_willis> thufir_:  the !java wiki guide urls detaill how to do that i recall
[06:16] <flintser> i want to enable user login for windows AD in ubuntu, what is the right way to do it?
[06:16] <thufir_> what's the wiki?
[06:16] <AcidRain2013> akiva-mobile: there is a big difference though in using no proxy and no encryption and using a direction connection to your comp which your isp monitors,,,, with skype...
[06:16] <dr_willis> !java
[06:16] <cfhowlett> flintser, create an account in both OS's
[06:16] <zqrtjeddah> hi
[06:17] <cfhowlett> zqrtjeddah, greetings
[06:17] <AcidRain2013> akiva-mobile: and there is also a big difference between plugging into the gray box at the end of the street. <--- cant get caught
[06:17] <zqrtjeddah> can i mack my laptop win8 start from my usb disk ?
[06:17] <akiva-mobile> Yep, agreed, but ot.
[06:17] <AcidRain2013> zqrtjeddah: we dont like your kind round these parts
[06:17] <zqrtjeddah> ok
[06:17] <cfhowlett> zqrtjeddah, yep.  go into the bios settings and prioritize USB b oot
[06:18] <AcidRain2013> lol
[06:18] <zqrtjeddah> thanks cfhowlett
[06:18] <flintser> cfhowlett: there is no way to recall accounts from the AD? i'd neeed to create dozens of accounts on several ubuntu machines
[06:18] <thufir_> dr_willis: thx again.
[06:19] <zqrtjeddah> mr cfhowlett
[06:19] <qq30> Question: is it likely that I'll be able to install Ubuntu's new phone OS on my WebOS pixi plus device?
[06:19] <chaz68> zqrtjeddah:  You may want to create a Win8 startup USB key.  There is a MS tool for that.  Not really a ubuntu question though.
[06:19] <zqrtjeddah> what i put in my usb disk ? just ubuntu 12.10   64bit?
[06:19] <cfhowlett> flintser, over my head ... sorry.  As far as creating multiple accounts I'm pretty sure there's a script to do just that...perhaps a good question for the #ubuntu-server   channel???
[06:20] <zqrtjeddah> just lsat Q pls
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !usb|zqrtjeddah,
[06:20] <zqrtjeddah> yah usb disk
[06:20] <zqrtjeddah> thanxs
[06:20] <zandy> thanks
[06:21] <qq30> is there an ubuntu phone channel yet?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !phone|qq30,
[06:21] <flintser> cfhowlett: yap, research continues... so far i've only found proper guides for 5.04 :)
[06:22] <cfhowlett> flintser, sounds like an interesting project ... I think the LTSP might have a wiki ...
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ltsp|flinster
[06:22] <Zach_> hey, can anyone here help me with an installation problem please?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Zach_, details please ....
[06:26] <g00053> if i want to dual boot do I need to have a seperate /boot partition ?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> g00053, no you don't have to
[06:27] <flintser> cfhowlett: finally found a great looking guide, i was just looking with wrong keywords.. it is fot 11.10 but i think most/all of it will apply in 12.04 too. we had edubuntu environment in our high school, they were using ltsp :)
[06:27] <g00053> okay , and how do I go about setting up my  partitions so that windows doesn't make me reformat my entire hd ?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> flintser, sounds like you're on the path.  best of luck.
[06:27] <chaz68> Hmmm... Maybe this is the answer to my .xsession-errrors and lightdm.log issue...
[06:27] <chaz68> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107354&highlight=xsessions-errors&page=2
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> g00053: step one, install windows first
[06:27] <dawkirst> hi, say I generate logs in my terminal with `heroku logs --tail`, is there some way I can stream that somewhere so I can show it to someone? (new to Ubuntu, so I might be using all the wrong terms)
[06:27] <cfhowlett> g00053, you installed windows first
[06:27] <g00053> no no ...ubuntu is already installed
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> g00053: boy are in for some work then
[06:28] <cfhowlett> g00053, errrrrrrrr ... this might sting a bit
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> *are you
[06:28] <dr_willis> dawkirst:  use screen and let them ssh in and watch it
[06:28] <chaz68> g00053:  Methinks you should install Windows first then Ubuntu...
[06:28] <dawkirst> dr_willis, no easier way?
[06:28] <dr_willis> dawkirst:  or ssh to their box and pipe it to them
[06:28] <dr_willis> dawkirst:  it all depends on the details
[06:28] <silverone> Hello ! can you guys change your sensitivity in the mouse/touchpad menu?
[06:29] <dawkirst> hm
[06:29] <silverone> for the touchpad*
[06:29] <cfhowlett> g00053, for sake of sanity, I concur.  Install windows then ubuntu
[06:29] <chaz68> g00053:  Grub2 play much easier with the Windows after it is installed...
[06:29] <dawkirst> dr_willis, ok, thanks, let me explore all my avenues first
[06:29] <cfhowlett> silverone, settings > mouse
[06:29] <g00053> dag
[06:29] <g00053> i've been on this install for a while
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> g00053: ok, make space. install windows as if it were your first os. then reinstall grub so you can boot into ubuntu again. when installing windows make sure you choose the right partition and don't overwrite ubuntu
[06:29] <flintser> g00053: cfhowlett: is it possible to use gparted and create unallocated partition, then install win on it, then grub rescue?
[06:29] <silverone> cfhowlett: i've tried that but nothing happens
[06:29] <g00053> the grub thing isn't the issue
[06:30] <g00053> i can deal with that
[06:30] <cfhowlett> flintser, ah, if only t'were so easy, me lad.  possible.  REMOTELY possible.
[06:30] <g00053> windows want to wipe the entire hd if you don't have a "system partition"
[06:30] <g00053> which i though was referinng to a /boot partition
[06:31] <Zach_> cfhowlett, do i need to talk to you here and not private chat?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> g00053, windows will allow you to partition less than 100% oof the hard drive
[06:31] <g00053> yeah
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Zach_, put it in this channel please
[06:31] <flintser> i remember once doing that and ended up with backing up the linux partition afterwards, then doing clean windows install, then creating partition and dropping the backup there...
[06:31] <g00053> but it wants to have a seperate 100 meg "system partition" as well and it doesn't create it unless the hd is wipes
[06:32] <cfhowlett> g00053, even so, assume your ubuntu partition will be toasted.  Just start over.  Save your data to a USB and installl windows..Workarounds rarely are worth the effort
[06:32] <cfhowlett> g00053, the system partition is a windows thing.  live with it
[06:32] <g00053> i was afriad of that
[06:33] <chaz68> g00053 - Unless you can bag the multi-boot idea and consider a VM...
[06:33] <Zach_> 	I have been trying to install ubuntu or kubuntu on my new samsung windows 8 ultrabook, been having some major problems,  	the newest problem is, i get to the grub screen on my live usb and click "Go to Kubuntu" and 5 seconds later i get "Kernal Panic" I have a picture of the kernal panic screen if you need it,  I have been trying to install 12.10 and have tried both Ubuntu and Kubuntu and...
[06:33] <Zach_> ...have followed nearly every tutorial out there
[06:33] <cfhowlett> g00053, hey cup of coffee in between episodes of your favorite tv show and .... done
[06:34] <g00053> yeah haha
[06:34]  * g00053 fires up his gas powered external for back up 
[06:34] <cfhowlett> Zach_, samsung?  yep.  You got bit.  Download ubuntu 12.4.2 for the fix
[06:35] <Zach_> lol its actually badass
[06:35] <chaz68> cfhowlett:  Zach_:  Is this the EFI / UEFI problem?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> chaz68, my suspicion is yes.  12.04.2 has the fix though
[06:36] <Zach_> that is possible, i currently have safe boot off
[06:36] <Zach_> and most advanced settings in BIOS
[06:36] <iceroot> Zach_: wait!
[06:36] <chaz68> cfhowlett:  haven't run across this yet but have heard about it.  Going to roll out a new mobo with UEFI tomorrow....
[06:36] <cfhowlett> Zach_, seriously.  read up on this.  samsungs have been BRICKED due a some kind of internal glitch.  Has happened on ubuntu AND windows.  Stop mucking about, get 12.4.2
[06:37] <AcidRain2013> Zach_: i actually heard that microsoft is trying to make it as hard as possible for you to live a happy and free life. dr_willis and i talked about it the other night
[06:37] <Zach_> I will cf
[06:37] <AcidRain2013> cfhowlett: "bricked" is a powerful term
[06:37] <AcidRain2013> and i dont believe that you can brick a computer...
[06:38] <Zach_> he is right
[06:38] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/not-good-samsung-uefi-laptops-can-brick-when-booting-ubuntu-20130130/
[06:38] <iceroot> Zach_: read this before http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html
[06:38] <chaz68> AcidRain2013:  Unless you send it to Gigabyte RMA... Then they will send you a bricked mobo back and tell you they fixed it.... :-)
[06:38] <flintser> ot: steam for linux <3 i think i'll be soon able to drop windowdows for good
[06:38] <Zach_> i have read the same thing, i have a Series 5 UltraTouch and have not seen anything about it, the problems are usually with a Series 7 or 9
[06:38] <AcidRain2013> cfhowlett: so your telling me that linux actually makes changes to the mobo?
[06:38] <AcidRain2013> :/
[06:39] <dr_willis> only about 10% of my steam games  have linux ports
[06:39] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: to the firmware
[06:39] <flintser> dr_willis: thats why i said soon
[06:39] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, as stated the issue has arisen with linux AND WINDOWS ...
[06:39] <dr_willis> The bricking can happen in windows in some cases ive seen...
[06:39] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: and its not a linux-problem, you can kill the firmware with windows too
[06:39] <flintser> tf and trine works :) that is almost enough...
[06:40] <AcidRain2013> iceroot: why use linux or windows to update firmware to a mobo when you can go to the manufacurer and download from the website their new updates?
[06:40] <AcidRain2013> im just not sure im understanding this properly
[06:40] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: read the article
[06:40] <AcidRain2013> im reading the one that cfhowlett posted?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, and most mobo manufacturers have NOT posted a kernel fix on this one yet.
[06:40] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: its not "updating the firmware" its "using values from uefi which is stored in the system and the values are bigger then the allowed size for the variables"
[06:41] <AcidRain2013> iceroot: so it causes something like a bad ass buffer overflow?
[06:41] <AAA> iceroot: I missed the first of this conversation. are you guys talking about coreboot?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> AAA, samsung efi brick
[06:41] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: something like that, yes
[06:41] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: and the bug is the firmware itself not ubuntu and not windows
[06:42] <AcidRain2013> ok, brb, reading now
[06:42] <AcidRain2013> oh that was a short read >_>
[06:42] <Zach_> will Kubuntu 12.04  work too?
[06:43] <AcidRain2013> !efi
[06:43] <cfhowlett> Zach_, 12.4.2
[06:43] <Zach_> ok
[06:43] <AcidRain2013> uefi sounds pointless if u ask me
[06:43] <cfhowlett> Zach_, as I understand all OFFICIAL ubuntu flavors have the fix as of 12.4.2
[06:44] <Zach_> thank you
[06:44] <iceroot> cfhowlett: the bug is in the firmware so ubuntu can not fix the real bug
[06:44] <AcidRain2013> thats like trying to create something better than the cell phone. NOT the software or its protocol technologies, but a completely different device in all
[06:44] <cfhowlett> iceroot, exactly.  "fix" is incorrect.  workaround is better
[06:44] <iceroot> cfhowlett: 12.04.2 is just not using the kernel-modul which is using the bug in the firmware
[06:46] <Zach_> and it would be the amd64 version right?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> Zach_, for your lappy?  yes.
[06:46] <AcidRain2013> ewwww. luckily i never even attempted to use efi. cause i remember my computer asking me at one point. and i was like wtf this stupid ass new stuff. *clicks on bios option*
[06:47] <rohitkav> I am getting this error frequently "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. And it asks me to repair". but I am not able to do so
[06:47] <rohitkav> Kindly help
[06:47] <iceroot> !language | AcidRain2013
[06:48] <AcidRain2013> rohitkav: have you tried to clean them?
[06:48] <AcidRain2013> sudo apt-get clean
[06:48] <rohitkav> no AcidRain2013
[06:48] <AAA> rohitkav: can you open a terminal and type apt-get update ?
[06:48] <iceroot> AcidRain2013: clean is not acting on the catalog, clean is just removing the cached *.deb-files
[06:49] <cfhowlett> apt-get update   ????
[06:49] <AcidRain2013> iceroot: possibly bad cache files?
[06:49] <rohitkav> I did it
[06:49] <AcidRain2013> rohitkav: now sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <akiva-mobile> Alright so I have an ubuntu on ssd, and an ubuntu on a external harddrive disk. The ssd can get to grub menu, but no farther.
[06:50] <rohitkav> I did that, but no solution
[06:50] <rohitkav> AcidRain2013,
[06:50] <AAA> rohitkav: any errors/warning? if no, do apt-get -f install
[06:50] <cfhowlett> rohitkav, is this a new installation?  and how did you install it?
[06:50] <rohitkav> ok will try AAA
[06:50] <iceroot> rohitkav: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11080009&postcount=6
[06:51] <Zach_> I am looking at my partitions and meant to ask, I have 8 partitions that come with my ultrabook, is there any way to delete some without messing up my computer?
[06:51] <rohitkav> I get this error " dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching pidgin-facebookchat:i386"
[06:51] <iceroot> Zach_: one of the partitions should be uefi related
[06:52] <cfhowlett> !paste|Zach_, 8 linux partitions??? what?  paste it up!
[06:52] <flintser> Zach_: if you dont know what they are, don't touch them :) i've learned that through the hard way
[06:52] <Zach_> no, windows partitions
[06:52] <rohitkav> " You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[06:52] <rohitkav> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:52] <rohitkav>  pidgin-data : Breaks: pidgin-facebookchat (< 1.69-2) but 1.69 is installed
[06:52] <rohitkav> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[06:52] <rohitkav> "
[06:52] <AcidRain2013> flintser: lol. same here
[06:52] <FloodBot1> rohitkav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:52] <AcidRain2013> rohitkav: yes. run sudo apt-get -f install
[06:53] <iceroot> rohitkav: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138734/software-center-items-cannot-be-installed-or-removed-until-package-catalog-is
[06:53] <rohitkav> I did that but not change AcidRain2013
[06:54] <Zach_> http://imagebin.org/247250
[06:54] <cfhowlett> rohitkav, now do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:54] <iceroot> Zach_: as i said, one is uefi related, the others are your data, system recovery and so on
[06:55] <flintser> Zach_: all needed :) except that 16gb might not, but i think its the recovery partition so...
[06:55] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680261/
[06:55] <rohitkav> I get this error cfhowlett
[06:55] <flintser> but wjhy is there 22gb of unallocated? Zach_
[06:56] <AAA> rohitkav: do this dpkg -l|grep pidgin <-- put in pastebin
[06:56] <mehdi> hey guys im having problem with my sound
[06:56] <AAA> rohitkav: it sounds like you are using too many repos
[06:56] <mehdi> when i turn the volume up my sound stutter
[06:56] <cfhowlett> rohitkav, so it downloaded the package but can't configure yet ...
[06:56] <Zach_> for ubuntu when I install it, I am about to ad about 50gb more
[06:56] <rohitkav> yes cfhowlett
[06:57] <flintser> mehdi: you sure you dont put volume over 100?
[06:57] <AAA> rohitkav: your conflicting packages are because you are using .deb's from different repos/versions
[06:57] <rohitkav> I am not able to even remove pidgin
[06:57] <Zach_> here, much better view of my partitions: http://imagebin.org/247251
[06:57] <AAA> 02-19-00:56 < AAA> rohitkav: do this dpkg -l|grep pidgin <-- put in pastebin
[06:58] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680264/
[06:58] <rohitkav> AAA check http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680264/
[06:59] <AcidRain2013> rohitkav: ive had issues with the facebook pidgin plugin as well
[06:59] <AAA> rohitkav: can you also do this? ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ && cat /etc/apt/sources.list and put in pastebin?
[07:00] <flintser> opened up allpackages from packages.ubuntu.com... ffuuu
[07:00] <AAA> rohitkav: is this a fresh install or an upgrade of some kind?
[07:00] <chaz68> !logrotate
[07:00] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680269/
[07:00] <AcidRain2013> AAA: i believe the output was what it was. his pidgin-data if configured will break pidgin-facebookchat
[07:01] <flintser> rohitkav: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/pidgin-facebookchat
[07:01] <Zach_> in LiLi Live USB do I choose the parameters for 12.4.1 LTS since there is no 12.4.2 option?
[07:02] <flintser> Zach_: it really doesnt matter if you have the right iso-downloaded i think
[07:02] <flintser> i've done mint with ubuntu "parameters" and it has always worked
[07:03] <Zach_> the iso i have now is "kubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64"
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|Zach_, and you know you have the right ISO because checksumed.  right?  RIGHT?
[07:03] <rohitkav> what to do with that flintser
[07:03] <rohitkav> could you help
[07:04] <AcidRain2013> rohitkav: pretty much, remove all packages that you have installed related to pidgin-facebook
[07:04] <AcidRain2013> and install the packages from the repo located on the link that flintser gave u
[07:05] <flintser> rohitkav: apt-get purge pidgin
[07:05] <rohitkav> ok flintser
[07:05] <rohitkav> will try . Thanks AcidRain2013
[07:05] <AAA> rohitkav: before you remove anything, can you show us apt-cache policy apt-cache policy
[07:05] <AcidRain2013> yeah, purge
[07:05] <rohitkav> it says :N: Unable to locate package apt-cache
[07:05] <rohitkav> N: Unable to locate package policy
[07:05] <AAA> rohitkav: er. mis paste there. apt-cache policy pidgin-facebookchat
[07:05] <g00053> hey so I have a seperate partition for my media ...whats the proper way to mount it ? right now it shows up as a drive and I just simlink the folders to ~/
[07:06] <flintser> g00053: isn't the symlink sufficient?
[07:06] <rohitkav> AAA, flintser  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680283/
[07:07] <g00053> well it works . i'm just not sure if i'
[07:07] <g00053> m doing it the correct way
[07:07] <rohitkav> AAA, flintser  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680285/
[07:08] <flintser> g00053: if it does what you want i don't see a reason to do anything else
[07:08] <g00053> i'm going to have to re-do my partitions shortly so my point is if there is a cleaner way to do it . i might as well
[07:08] <AcidRain2013> g00053: gparted?
[07:09] <g00053> AcidRain2013, not what I was asking ut thanks
[07:09] <mehdi> anybody encounter sound problem here with 12.04
[07:09] <mehdi> ?
[07:10] <AAA> rohitkav: FYI, ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[07:10] <cfhowlett> !anybody|mehdi,
[07:10] <vampire> how do i detect my linux version in terminal
[07:10] <flintser> rohitkav: aaa:apt-get remove pidgin-data && apt-get purge pidgin ?
[07:10] <AAA> vampire: uname -a
[07:10] <flintser> vampire: uname -a
[07:10] <vampire> ok
[07:10] <Zach_> alright guys, about to start the install, wish me luck and hope i dont brick my laptop haha
[07:11] <AAA> Zach_: but breaking it is the only way to _really_ learn it ;)
[07:11] <calmpitbull> Samo da se zna da mrzim sve sisteme....to jest racunalne i politicke
[07:11] <mehdi> how can i fix my sound interrupting problem when i turn the volume up?
[07:11] <AAA> rohitkav: do you actually use pidgin?
[07:11] <vampire> how do i detect all installed versions
[07:11] <Zach_> exactly :) and even if i do brick it, it has a warranty ;)
[07:11] <AAA> vampire: ls -lt /boot/vmlinuz*
[07:11] <chaz68> Hmm... found this on my massive "lightdm.log" file problem...
[07:11] <vampire> because i need to make one default cause the newer one doesn't work
[07:12] <chaz68> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12393811&highlight=du+-ch+++%7C+grep+-i+lightdm#post12393811
[07:12] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680292/
[07:12] <AAA> vampire: review /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[07:12] <vbgunz> initramfs stops me at every boot because it can't find my encrypted / partition. I have to cryptsetup luksOpen it and exit initramfs. How can I skip initramfs and just get prompted for the password?
[07:12] <AAA> vampire: er /boot/grub/grub.cfg rather. sorry
[07:13] <chaz68> Trying:   sudo watch -d "du -ch * | grep -i lightdm"
[07:13] <g00053> welp here goes nothing. time to install windows ...
[07:13]  * g00053 steps into the void
[07:13] <flintser> AAA: it specifically says that DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE. ;D
[07:13] <rohitkav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680295/
[07:13] <rohitkav> no I don't use
[07:13] <vampire> is says er command not found
[07:14] <rohitkav> I got issue configuring it for facebook
[07:14] <AAA> rohitkav: are you using pidgin? it looks like apt-get purge PIDGIN-* (caps on purpose) by be the only way
[07:14] <r0nald> Ubuntu is hilarious. I am doing CPU-intensive work on my Thinkpad X220 laptop, which is quite slow in general, but becomes many times faster when I remove the AC power and the laptop runs on battery. Any ideas how to fix that?
[07:14] <rohitkav> no I am not using pidgin AAA
[07:15] <chaz68> Maybe the new kernel image I installed tonight helped.  lightdm.log staying tame...
[07:15] <vbgunz> r0nald: even though it speeds up, soon enough it's back to slower speeds right?
[07:15] <dr_willis> r0nald:  ive seen similer things happen in windows. The power saveings demon/stuff is confised.
[07:15] <AAA> rohitkav: then apt-get purge pidgin-* and carefully check before you type y
[07:16] <flintser> rohitkav: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12323289 that might help
[07:18] <r0nald> vbgunz, I will check that now. But any ideas how to fix this?
[07:18] <rohitkav> I even have this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680305/
[07:19] <r0nald> vgunz: yes, that is the case.
[07:19] <vbgunz> I believe it's power management and that it might be ondemand. You'll usually see that behavior. If I'm right, you can try forcing power management to something less intensive
[07:19] <AAA> rohitkav: after the purge did you apt-get update?
[07:20] <rohitkav> Not yet AAA
[07:20] <Kartagis> rohitkav: not checking carefully before -y cost me a OS re-install once
[07:21] <rohitkav> Yes, but flash error was even before Kartagis
[07:21] <rohitkav> shall I do update AAA
[07:21] <rohitkav> shall I do update AAA
[07:21] <AAA> rohitkav: yes, for sure
[07:21] <AAA> rohitkav: then apt-get -f install && dpkg --configure -a
[07:22] <rohitkav> ok
[07:22] <rohitkav> will do AAA
[07:23] <rohitkav> It says "dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[07:23] <rohitkav> "
[07:23] <rohitkav> AAA,
[07:23] <vampire> afrter a ubuntu update i restart and i hear the login sound but the screen is just grey the only way to get around it is to launch the old linux image in advanced startup in grub
[07:23] <oldude67> rohitkav, try using sudo first
[07:23] <AAA> rohitkav: use sudo (sorry I assumed that)
[07:23] <vampire> any ideas
[07:25] <vbgunz> I hope I fixed my issue, am going to try
[07:25] <rohitkav> it says authentication failure when I give my password,, brr AAA
[07:25] <rohitkav> don't get what's happening AAA
[07:25] <AAA> vampire: did you run grub-update?
[07:26] <vampire> no
[07:26] <AAA> rohitkav: heh, sounds like this you root problem
[07:26] <rohitkav> hmm
[07:26] <AAA> rohitkav: sudo apt-get update <- can you run that command?
[07:27] <rohitkav> ue
[07:27] <rohitkav> yes I did AAA
[07:27] <rohitkav> that wasn't issue
[07:27] <AAA> rohitkav: so do this sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:28] <rohitkav> sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:28] <rohitkav> ok
[07:28] <rohitkav> I did that
[07:28] <rohitkav> Reading package lists... Done
[07:28] <rohitkav> Building dependency tree
[07:28] <rohitkav> Reading state information... Done
[07:28] <rohitkav> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
[07:28] <FloodBot1> rohitkav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <rohitkav> I always end up doing
[07:30] <AAA> rohitkav: ok. apt-get update and you should be good to go
[07:31] <rohitkav> thanks AAA
[07:32] <AAA> rohitkav: for good measusre, you most likely want to run apt-get upgrade at this point
[07:33] <r0nald> I tried to set maximum performance with the jupiter tool, but that did not help. The best way to boost performance is to switch the AC power on and off.
[07:33] <r0nald> :D
[07:33] <robotnut> anyone innstall ubuntu on a phone?
[07:33] <dr_willis> robotnut:  not really doable at this time.. its not been released
[07:33] <robotnut> tablet?
[07:34] <AAA> robotnut: why note? they released the sdk
[07:34] <u99874> 8-)
[07:34] <dr_willis> !arm
[07:35] <AAA> robotnut: am I missing something? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
[07:35] <mutanic> Hi everyone, newbies here...can I learn from you all about Linux usage?
[07:36] <AAA> mutanic: do you have a specific question?
[07:36] <robotnut> aaa, well they havent released a phone with yet
[07:36] <robotnut> website states you can install it - but it only works with android and when you plug in as a desktop
[07:37] <robotnut> so its more of a hack
[07:37] <robotnut> im curious about phone, tablet use of ubutu as it stands now - if anyone is actively using it etc etc
[07:37] <AAA> robotnut: all good things start as 'just a hack' ;-)
[07:37] <robotnut> aaa, agreed
[07:37] <robotnut> however - looking for something stable enough to make a switch
[07:37] <mutanic> I just execute apt-get upgrade, later on I'm getting something saying that I'm missing ruby1.9.1 gem, gem executable won't run
[07:37] <robotnut> im on ios right now and i cant take it anymore
[07:37] <AAA> still 8:22:24 left to see what the tick,tock riddle _really_ means
[07:37] <robotnut> im about to throw my iphone, ipad and apple tv out the window
[07:38] <dr_willis> some ubuntu tablet anoucement in like... 8 hrs from now.
[07:38] <mutanic> how to fix ths? I already do the research but still unable to fix it
[07:39] <mutanic> anyone?
[07:39] <vishnuku> hi
[07:40] <robotnut> dr_willis, yeah been watching that
[07:40] <robotnut> i hope they officially launch a tablet with ubuntu or something
[07:40] <robotnut> preferably one from a large vendor
[07:42] <Rabblerouser> Upgrading to 13.04 alpha since I'm about to wipe this partition anyways. How long of a wait am I in for?
[07:42] <dr_willis> like i need another tablet. ;) i got like 4 now.
[07:42] <vishnuku> #java
[07:42] <robotnut> well as soon as i see something worth while - im trading in all my ios devices for something better
[07:43] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  it will be like 1.x+gb of data..
[07:43] <robotnut> android has my attention - i.e. nexus
[07:43] <robotnut> however - im paranoid with google
[07:43] <robotnut> so would rather have something independent
[07:43] <dr_willis> but you trust apple? :P
[07:43] <robotnut> nope
[07:43] <robotnut> been wanting to move away from it
[07:43] <dr_willis> you must have at one time.. to buy 3 of their devivces.
[07:43] <robotnut> but i got all the ios devices i have as gifts so i figured id use them until they die
[07:44] <robotnut> here i am 5 years later
[07:44] <robotnut> lol
[07:44] <dr_willis> I cant really imagine what i would do with a Ubuntu tablet. that i dont allready do on my android tablets.
[07:44] <robotnut> same thing
[07:44] <robotnut> just not a part of google
[07:44] <robotnut> thats all
[07:45] <dr_willis> i dont see why the vendor name matters that much
[07:45] <dr_willis> its still googles Os
[07:45] <robotnut> hrmmmm
[07:45] <robotnut> not really
[07:45] <robotnut> android is google
[07:45] <robotnut> ubuntu is not
[07:45] <FloodBot1> robotnut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <robotnut> unless im mistaken here
[07:46] <dr_willis> on the phone - i thought both ran side by side. but ive not seen any real info on that.
[07:47] <Michiellllaptop> ola, I have a problem updating... anyone who I may bother? --- I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/qrBDKsH.png  : I did both, yet it keeps telling me the same
[07:47] <vnc786> on my MB i m having vga and hdmi port and using ubuntu and xp so question is can i share my screen with other monitor with HDMI and my console will be thru vga
[07:47] <vnc786> hello everyone..
[07:48] <dr_willis> Michiellllaptop:  what does df show for your /boot/ partition?
[07:48] <Michiellllaptop> df?
[07:49] <dr_willis> the command is df   yes.,.
[07:49] <Michiellllaptop> /dev/sda7         103129   74363     23442  77% /boot
[07:49] <dr_willis> now try df -h   to see it in human terms. ;)
[07:50] <Michiellllaptop> /dev/sda7       101M   73M   23M  77% /boot
[07:50] <dr_willis> Your /boot/ is 101mb? thats way way tiny
[07:50] <Michiellllaptop> ok, it's been like that for ages
[07:50] <Michiellllaptop> can I make it bigger?
[07:51] <dr_willis> cd /boot/
[07:51] <dr_willis> then see how many kernels you got installed.
[07:52] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[07:52] <dr_willis> you should uninstall all but the 2 newest normally. always keep at least one old working kernel
[07:52] <Michiellllaptop> http://i.imgur.com/xYUEEdX.png
[07:53] <dr_willis> You do know you can do TEXT pastes... and not needing to do screenshots all the time
[07:53] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[07:53] <dr_willis> looks like you got 3 kernels installed.. Unionstall the oldest one
[07:54] <flintser> does nvidia-current just install the same driver as i can get from http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-310.32-driver.html
[07:54] <Michiellllaptop> i need synaptic to do that? i can't just do it manually?
[07:55] <dr_willis> that guide i posted mentions like 5+ ways to do it
[07:56] <dr_willis> flintser:  should the same if the versions are the same. but i think the .deb does some other things.. and is suitable to be auto-updated and so forth. so its best to use the .deb/repos version
[07:59] <oldude67> i also look at it this way, if it has a .deb/ repo version then its usually quite stable.
[08:00] <vnc786> on my MB i m having vga and hdmi port and using ubuntu so question is can i share my screen with other monitor with HDMI and my console will be thru vga
[08:00] <Michiellllaptop> dr_willis, thanks! :)
[08:03] <Rabblerouser> The download for Raring Ringtail was quick enough, but the install. :o
[08:05] <darkmutt> got a question, any idea why I can't lock some apps to the unity toolbar?
[08:06] <dr_willis> what apps?
[08:08] <SushiDude> My /boot partition is full, I can't seem to update to the latest version of the kernel. How should I free up space on /boot?
[08:09] <robotnut> thoughts on zentyal anyone?
[08:09] <dr_willis> Uninstall old kernels SushiDude  that you dont need
[08:09] <cfhowlett> SushiDude, delete old kernels
[08:09] <dr_willis> robotnut:  a lot of people use it
[08:09] <dr_willis>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[08:09] <sakkemo> any spreadsheet program recommendations besides gnumeric and libre/openoffice? I'd like something light and without huge dependencies
[08:09] <dr_willis> !info sc
[08:10] <robotnut> dr_willis, do you?
[08:10] <itry> Good Morning from Germany!
[08:10] <robotnut> im installing it now to see if i switch from webmin
[08:10] <itry> Is an htc tablet with ubuntu is coming today? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5243223
[08:10] <dr_willis> robotnut:  i have no need for it on a home network
[08:10] <robotnut> just hope it supports samba4 like it says it does
[08:10] <dr_willis> ssh is the way to admin a server.
[08:10] <cfhowlett> itry, not announced yet and we don't know.  patience
[08:10] <dr_willis> i dont really need a gui to admin samba
[08:10] <Myrtti> sakkemo: google drive :-P
[08:11] <darkmutt> dr willis i wanted to lock sublime text2 and google appengine launcher
[08:11] <sakkemo> dr_willis: thanks, I'll look into it; Myrtti: nah, not convinced of the web interfaces of the moment :)
[08:12] <dr_willis> darkmutt:  if they dont have a proper .desktop files for the apps - that may be an iussue
[08:12] <SushiDude> But why does apt-get autoremove not get rid of all of these unneeded kernels?
[08:12] <dr_willis> SushiDude:  what if you DO need them?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> SushiDude, to protect the unway and the tired ...
[08:12] <cfhowlett> unwary
[08:13] <Rabblerouser> Where does Grub point to for Ubuntu?
[08:13] <dr_willis> keep at least 2-3 old kernels.. just in case
[08:13] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  what?
[08:13] <dr_willis> !grub2
[08:15] <_Dude_> so that problem i was having yesterday - i just let the package manager uninstall the xorg quantal packages included with 12.04.2 and downgrade to the ones that come with 12.04.1 when installing the ia32-libs and (knock on wood) everything seems stable
[08:15] <_Dude_> steam is installing
[08:15] <darkmutt> !unity
[08:16] <Rabblerouser> I set up GRUB was installed to the Ubuntu partition, then made a grub.bin with a terminal command, and set my boot.ini to point to the grub.bin so I didn't remove my original bootloader (don't knock the method D:). Was wondering if Grub pointed to places like the boot.ini does
[08:17] <dr_willis> look at  the /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see how it looks for things/files and so forth
[08:18] <Rabblerouser> Ah, thanks
[08:18] <leotr> hello! I found in ubuntu-server-12.04.2.iso image in directory preseed following files: cli.seed, ubuntu-server-minimal.seed, ubuntu-server-minimavm.seed and ubuntu-server.seed. In isolinux/txt.cfg menu there is Install Ubuntu Server option that refers to ubuntu-server.seed. Does anything refer to cli.seed or ubuntu-server-minimal.seed?
[08:18] <dr_willis> I tend to have windows on one HD and ubuntu on a 2nd..
[08:18] <dr_willis> no need to do fancy things.
[08:19] <SushiDude> Now /boot has space but how do I make sure that the latest version of the kernel is install properly?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> leotr, perhaps a question for #ubuntu-server   ???
[08:19] <SushiDude> installed*
[08:20] <leotr> cfhowlett: wow, thanks
[08:20] <dr_willis> if you did a apt-get update. apt-get upgrade. it should pull in the latest. or a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade SushiDude
[08:20] <dr_willis> SushiDude:  this is why you keep 2-3 old kernels.. if the latest fails.. you boot to an earlier one
[08:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:21] <cristian_c> I turned on the suspension, but when I resume not everything is as before
[08:21] <Rabblerouser> What's the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade
[08:21] <cristian_c> for example, the chromium browser is no longer opened
[08:22] <cristian_c> If I launch it from terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: File or directory not found
[08:22] <cristian_c> that would be the output of the monitor, but I have no other information
[08:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:22] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  if you reboot it all works, untill try to suspend/restore again?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Rabblerouser, dist-upgrade pulls in packages that have been added to the current release.  upgrade merely upgrades the installed packages.
[08:23] <darkmutt> so how would I lock something to unity sidebar if it doesn't have a proper .desktop file?
[08:24] <cristian_c> dr_willis, after suspension and resume, I think pc is not rebooted, because the logout is not executed (a black screen with strigns appears)
[08:24] <cristian_c> *strings
[08:26] <dr_willis> suspend dosent work well with all hardware. I never use the feature.
[08:26] <dr_willis> hibernate - may or may not work better.
[08:26] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I'll try to reboot after suspension/resume
[08:29] <SushiDude> Well, everything seems to be working. Thank you!
[08:30] <dr_willis> been like 4 people in here in the last 4 hrs with  /boot/ being full... ;)
[08:34] <SushiDude> dr_willis, Well there is an issue then, it should not be keeping that many old kernels.
[08:37] <Kartagis> !xen
[08:41] <santosh> help me
[08:41] <bady_> what?
[08:42] <khildin> http://www.ubuntu.com Tick, tock, tablet time! 7 hours to go.... :)
[08:42] <santosh> my irssi is malfunctioning, can you mention me?
[08:42] <YOUConsulting> Hello, I had a second monitor connected yesterday and I have it disconected today. Today my max resolution changed to a lower setting. I tried to change it back but the max resolution is lowerd :(
[08:42] <AAA> santosh: what is up?
[08:42] <dr_willis> people who make theyr own /boot/ partition should know what they are doing...
[08:43] <dr_willis> YOUConsulting:  what video chipset?
[08:43] <santosh> When someone mentions me, '4' appears before their name.
[08:44] <auronandace> santosh: screenshot
[08:44] <YOUConsulting> dr_willis,  no clue but I have an Elitebook 8740w running ubuntu 10.10 installed via wubi
[08:44] <dr_willis> !10.10
[08:44] <auronandace> YOUConsulting: 10.10 is no longer supported
[08:44] <dr_willis> I suggest upgradeing to a newer release..  and run away from wubi.. ;)
[08:45] <YOUConsulting> dr_willis, auronandace   so I still use it and it worked fine yesterday until the seconday monitor disconnected
[08:45] <YOUConsulting> hate unity
[08:45] <dr_willis>  so?
[08:45] <auronandace> YOUConsulting: you don't have to use unity if you use 12.04+
[08:45] <dr_willis> theres other desktops...
[08:46] <jwtiyar> i have 12.04.1 lTS , its too laggy some times cpu goes to %99 , i cant do anyhting
[08:46] <_Dude_> yes, like kubuntu or xubuntu, or just apt-get install your favorite desktop environment
[08:46] <dr_willis> you could check your xorg.conf and rename it if it exists. and restart. that might straighten it out.  use lspci to see what chipset you got. since thats a core bit of info to know.
[08:46] <jwtiyar> i have activsted 2gb swap area
[08:47] <auronandace> the amount of people who avoid upgrading due to the _default_ desktop boggles my mind
[08:47] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  run htop in a term. see whats sucking down the cpu.
[08:47] <YOUConsulting> let's drop the version I use, can we get to the helping part
[08:47] <dr_willis> and here my wife can sit down at a Unity desktop and have it figured out in just a few min.
[08:47] <auronandace> YOUConsulting: no, look up the word unsupported
[08:47] <dr_willis> i allready gave you some help....
[08:48] <dr_willis> move/rename/backup xorg.conf and see if it helps.. determine your chipset.
[08:48] <AAA> dr_willis: if it's a default unity then all her searches are also going to canoncical
[08:48] <invariant> Does anyone run msmtp here?
[08:48] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, its program?
[08:48] <dr_willis> AAA:  she loves the amazon search feature.
[08:49] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  htop is a program.. yes.
[08:49] <AAA> dr_willis: awesome! as long as the user knows
[08:49] <AAA> dr_willis: most users probably don't know that
[08:51] <santosh> auronandace: http://i.imgur.com/Qu8vBJ2.png
[08:51] <dr_willis> most users dont know much of anything.. this channel has shown that. ;)
[08:52] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, i dont know whick one killing my cpu
[08:52] <auronandace> santosh: hmm, most odd
[08:52] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, i dont know whick one killing my cpu
[08:53] <cfhowlett> AAA, look at %cup and %Mem
[08:53] <cfhowlett> %cpu
[08:53] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  htop sorts the apps by order of what is using the most cpu.. watch it run. and when you see the load spike.. look at it and see whats using it
[08:53] <dr_willis> it can sort by other values also. ;)
[08:53] <auronandace> santosh: is that the way its set to highlight you?
[08:53] <vincent_> dr_willis,  xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old and rebooting worked. I Thank you
[08:54] <santosh> auronandace: wait, I
[08:54] <minimec> santosh: That's an irssi screenshot, right? Go to your .irssi directory and check the 'config' file. Search for the number '4'. I guess you only have to delete or change something in that config.
[08:54] <santosh> I'm restarting irssi
[08:54] <invariant>  I have some code which connects to port 25 directly. Can I use msmtp to provide that?
[08:55] <santosh> now mention me again..
[08:55] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, its nit stable some time compiz or some time unity panel , they are about %37 or %45
[08:56] <under_hood> \leave
[08:56] <cfhowlett> santosh
[08:56] <AAA> dr_willis: I was eluding to the 'ubuntu is spyware' accusations that have been made
[08:56] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  whats your system specs?
[08:56] <santosh> cfhowlett: thanks
[08:56] <dr_willis> AAA:   just more FUD.
[08:57] <jwtiyar> dr_willis,  2gb of ram  ,64bit , 320 HDD
[08:57] <dr_willis> im suprised there hasent been bigger deal over the samsung efi  breakage issues.
[08:57] <santosh> I edited config file manually, which is discouraged. Its working fine now. :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  just idling here. and i dont have compiz or X or unity go over 5% of cpu ussage
[08:57] <vnc786> i kept some files in /tmp dir after reboot it got deleted ? how deletes that
[08:57] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, everyone seems to have accepted the story "linux/ubuntu breaks computers!"
[08:58] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  using a fairly low end nvidia card
[08:58] <vnc786> who deletes that ..?
[08:58] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, i have intel core i3
[08:58] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, its new i have installed ubuntu in fresh install
[08:59] <AAA> vmeson: /tmp files are temporary and cleared on reboot
[08:59] <dr_willis> vnc786:  where does mount show your /tmp/ mounted to?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> vnc786, /tmp probably gets swept as part of boot process.  bad idea to store files in any /temp or /tmp directory
[09:00] <vnc786> tmp is mounted on my partition ? is that u want ?
[09:01] <AAA> vnc786: files in /tmp/ do not exist between reboots
[09:01] <vnc786> i was aware that tmp gets clean but i have manually moved my data to tmp then to..
[09:02] <AAA> vnc786: to /somefile.ext ?
[09:03] <AAA> vnc786: can you paste the mv command you used?
[09:03] <ubuntuw1204> what is tick tock tablet time on ubuntu page
[09:03] <ubuntuw1204> hi
[09:03] <ubuntuw1204> Hola!
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !mod
[09:03] <dr_willis> we dont know. ;)
[09:03] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, greetings
[09:04] <ubuntuw1204> what is tick tock tablet time on ubuntu page?
[09:04] <dr_willis> we dont know. ;) .....
[09:04] <geektech713_> new HTC Tablet with Ubuntu i guess
[09:06] <vnc786> the file was not much imp it was around 3 gb movie i thought i would keep for time being n will mv to some other place but my bad day ...
[09:06] <ubuntuw1204> how differnt is ubuntu from debian?
[09:06] <{456c76616e6f}> Hey everyone, I was wondering if it's possible to load the ubuntu desktop installation without the graphical environement.
[09:06] <ubuntuw1204> babilen: Hi!, Hola!
[09:07] <darkmutt> i'm pretty sure there was an option for that
[09:07] <vnc786> is there possibility 2 recover from /tmp
[09:08] <woofer> allo, how would i add lines to the end of a text file using the command line?  for example, i would like to add stuff to the end of the hosts file
[09:08] <dr_willis> woofer:  echo and  the > redirection feature of bash
[09:08] <darkmutt> woofer you can do that or edit it with vi for example
[09:08] <AAA> vnc786: if you copied a file to /tmp/some.file then rebooted. there is no reasonable way to get it back (anything can be retrieved for a price...)
[09:08] <dr_willis>  dont get > and >> backwards. :) one overwrites.. one appends.
[09:09] <khildin> woofer: start VI or nano from commandline... :P
[09:09] <dr_willis> echo line1 > foo.txt
[09:09] <dr_willis> echo line2 > foo.txt
[09:09] <dr_willis> cat foo.txt
[09:09] <dr_willis> then try with >>
[09:10] <dr_willis>  >> appends.  > overwrtes
[09:10] <woofer> dr_willis,  could you give me an example of adding say:   192.168.1.2 moo   to /etc/hosts
[09:10] <woofer> i'm not very good with vim yet....
[09:10] <dr_willis> echo line3 >> file.txt
[09:10] <woofer> your right, that would be a good idea.
[09:10] <dr_willis> why are you even messing with hosts? BACK IT UP first.
[09:10] <AAA> you'll need quotes
[09:10] <woofer> i can use vim, but very basically.
[09:11] <parente>  ciao a tutti
[09:11] <darkmutt> how would i lock an application without .desktop files to the unity sidebar?
[09:11] <vnc786> AAA: ok thanks
[09:11] <woofer> dr_willis,  cause i want to be able to type ping moo instead of typing ping 192.168.1.2
[09:11] <dr_willis> echo 'stuff with spaces' >> filename.txt
[09:11] <dr_willis> woofer:   alias pmoo=ping 192.168.1.2  ;)
[09:12] <dr_willis> darkmutt:  you could make a .desktop file for them
[09:12] <cfhowlett> What IS this?  Downloaded 12.4.2.  ISO passed md5sum.  Made a USB.  Ran USB md5sum check and ... see for yourself:  http://imagebin.org/247256
[09:12] <darkmutt> how?
[09:12] <dr_willis> when you boot the USB theres a verify option i recall
[09:12] <dr_willis> darkmutt:  find a .desktop file. copy it.. edit it as needed
[09:12] <dr_willis> darkmutt:  locate gedit.desktop
[09:12] <darkmutt> ok thanks
[09:12] <woofer> cfhowlett,  what program did all that?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> woofer, wait 1 ...
[09:13] <AAA> cfhowlett: "+0 records out" what was your command line? it looks like you may be missing quotes too
[09:13] <cousteau> some program keeps deleting a gtk bookmark
[09:14] <AAA> cfhowlett: maybe you need to `reset`` your terminal
[09:14] <cousteau> it's an smb:// address, and the bookmark has spaces in the name.  There has to be a program or something that "sanitizes" my ~/.gtk-bookmarks by deleting that entry periodically
[09:15] <cfhowlett> woofer AAA used the "Check the CD" option ... but I made a USB. Hmm.  Would that effect this?
[09:15] <cousteau> nautilus, pcmanfm and thunar all understand that bookmark, so I don't know what program can be
[09:15] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[09:15] <dr_willis> it checks the md5 sums of packages on the disk i belive not the whole disk
[09:16] <woofer> cfhowlett,  i do'nt know what AAA is.... sorry dude.
[09:16] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, right, the check CD option specifies to get the size first and pipe that ... which I did
  >> appends.  > overwrtes   thanks. taht would be bad if you didn't tell me that. heh
[09:19] <dr_willis> bash basics,  ;)
[09:19] <AAA> cfhowlett: when you do mdfsum /path/to/your/ubuntu.iso do you get an md5sum as the output?
[09:20] <AAA> cfhowlett: and I really mead md5sum
[09:20] <ubuntuw1204> AAA yes md5sum your .iso
[09:21] <cfhowlett> AAA iso checked clean.  Was attempting to verify a newly created boot USB using the recommended process.  Disregard last line of output but this was the method http://paste.ubuntu.com/1680671/
[09:21] <woofer> dr_willis,  i get this:
[09:21] <woofer> mika@e:~$ sudo echo 192.168.1.2 woof >> /etc/hosts
[09:21] <woofer> bash: /etc/hosts: Permission denied
[09:21] <llutz> woofer: echo 192.168.1.2 woof |sudo tee -a  /etc/hosts
[09:22] <woofer> ? why do i have to do this tee stuff? cause echo can't use sudo?
[09:22] <llutz> woofer: redirections doesn't work with sudo
[09:22] <woofer> roger that.
[09:23] <code-ph0y> hey guys can someone tell me why I can't make a folder in htdocs?
[09:23] <AAA> llutz: what? file redirection work with sudo? what? please explain
[09:23] <llutz> woofer: your sudo echo ends at > and doesnt afffect the file behind (so you get permission error)
[09:23] <woofer> what exactly does the tee command do / what's it used for?
[09:23] <llutz> woofer: man tee
[09:23] <llutz> aaa "doesn't"
[09:23] <woofer> who reads man file?
[09:23] <woofer> if we all did there wouldn't be a help channel.
[09:24] <code-ph0y> is it chmod?
[09:24] <llutz> you  got somethin wrong woofer
[09:24] <packetfrog> Is there a simple way to install all the manpages/docs/what not for all my installed applications/kernel/modules/everything...
[09:25] <dr_willis> they are in the repos/packae manager lists
[09:25] <AAA> llutz: if a user authenticates with sudo then the command and is executed as that user. why do you think that doesn't work with file permissions?
[09:25] <dr_willis> most get installed automatically
[09:25] <dr_willis> !man
[09:25] <code-ph0y> go it
[09:25] <code-ph0y> got it*
[09:25] <dr_willis> !dev
[09:25] <dr_willis>  i think theres some dev man pages that may not get installed by default
[09:25] <llutz> AAA yes and his command ends at >
[09:25]  * g00053 returns triumphantly after setting up dual-boot
[09:26] <g00053> huzzah!
[09:26] <woofer> thanks adbot. if i wanted to develop for ubuntu, i would have never thought to look at ubuntu's website.
[09:26] <packetfrog> I just wanted to be sure they are there as I do not have a network connection sometimes.
[09:26] <packetfrog> Thanks.
[09:26] <cfhowlett> g00053, congrats.  Go forward, be safe, have fun
[09:26] <woofer> llutz,  what's this AAA you're talking about?
[09:27] <AAA> llutz: ok. I didn't see the full command. can you give the pastebin link?
[09:27] <g00053> cfhowlett, thanks for your help
[09:27] <woofer> ooh, sorry, AAA is a dude in here. hahah. i'm dumb.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> g00053, no worries
[09:27] <llutz> AAA: any "sudo echo foo > bar" will fail, thats what he tried
[09:27] <llutz> AAA: will fail if bar needs root-permissions*
[09:28] <code-ph0y> how do you login as root?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> !root|code-ph0y,
[09:28] <code-ph0y> lmao
[09:29] <code-ph0y> loving it!
[09:29] <AAA> llutz: that is a quote issue. sudo `echo foo > bar` should create a bar file with the contents of foo
[09:29] <llutz> AAA no its not . The file after the > is not open by the process running under sudo, but by the shell, which isn't
[09:29] <woofer> how come a long time ago i heard that su stood for suppose user  and not super user  ?
[09:30] <woofer> and sudo meant suppose user do
[09:30] <llutz> AAA: sudo -c sh "echo foo >bar" would do
[09:31] <dr_willis> su = switch user
[09:31] <dr_willis> you dont su to root in ubuntu. you use sudo
[09:32] <llutz> AAA: and btw using backticks will give an error
[09:32] <woofer> suppose user   switch user    super user ....... hmmm dont know what to believe.
[09:32] <woofer> thanks llutz, that ... tee thingy is handy.
[09:32] <AAA> llutz: yeah, I was typing off the cuff. but you get waht I was saying
[09:32] <cfhowlett> woofer, switch user.  test it yourself
[09:32] <llutz> AAA: i got it but you're still wrong :)
[09:32] <woofer> how would i test what you're saying? cfhowlett
[09:32] <AAA> su - change user ID or become superuser
[09:33] <AAA> llutz: yeah, I know. thanks for rubbing it in :)
[09:33] <dr_willis> since becoming root - is switching your user id to 0
[09:33] <dr_willis> but thats disabled by default on ubuntu
[09:33] <llutz> su - substitute user
[09:33] <woofer> another definition of su !!!!
[09:33] <dr_willis> su = studly user
[09:33] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:34] <woofer> my puppy is soft user
[09:34] <cfhowlett> woofer, don't you have more than one user account?  One for admin and one for daily use?  su into the other account
[09:34] <woofer> right. i just have my one account.
[09:34] <llutz> some user, whatever. substitute is what we learned .. in thoses days.
[09:34] <dr_willis> supperdupper user
[09:34] <woofer> how would i then make a txt file and then whatever is in it append it to the end of another text file?
[09:34] <llutz> woofer: cat file >> file2
[09:35] <woofer> dr_willis,  that's only for backup accounts on a crapple computer.
[09:35] <woofer> oh, cool. thanks llutz   knew it was something simple.
[09:35] <woofer> llutz,  your nick makes me keep thinking of lulzsec heh
[09:36] <llutz> woofer: (part of it) is my name much longer than anybody even thought about lulsec
[09:38] <woofer> llutz,  you mean, your name is much older than lulzsec?
[09:38] <llutz> yes
[09:40] <woofer> aye. thanks fer the help guys. ye are wise. (i rhyme)
[09:41] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[09:50] <g00053> guys how do i find out my video driver info in bash /
[09:51] <Kartagis> g00053: lspci
[09:52] <g00053> Kartagis, that lists the card not the driver i think
[09:53] <woofer> if i screw with my bashrc i assume i have to log off / on to have it take any effect right?
[09:53] <Kartagis> g00053: try lshw
[09:53] <Kartagis> try source .bashrc
[09:53] <Kartagis> woofer: try source .bashrc
[09:56] <nabblet> hi, i rsynced a file but the sha1sums are not the same. rsyncing again, rsync finishes successfully but checksums remain unchanged and different Oo any ideas?
[09:58] <MadsRC> nabblet, the timestamps changed, causing the checksum to change?
[09:59] <nabblet> MadsRC, i don't think so - otherwise any sha1sum would fail, wouldn't it?
[10:00] <histo> MadsRC: timestamps don't change checksums to change
[10:00] <histo> MadsRC: nor does names
[10:00] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[10:00] <MadsRC> My bad :)
[10:00] <histo> nabblet: are you rsync'ng to different filesystems?
[10:00] <histo> although it shouldn't matter
[10:01] <nabblet> histo, let me check - although it should not matte
[10:01] <nabblet> histo, let me check - although it should not matter
[10:01] <nabblet> histo, maybe it's rsync?
[10:01] <nabblet> rsync --partial --progress -e 'ssh -p 55557' Ghana/moooserver/9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247_X64FRE_SERVERHYPERCORE_EN-US-HRM_SHV_X64FRE_EN-US_DV5.ISO mister@192.168.1.35:~/Downloads/9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247_X64FRE_SERVERHYPERCORE_EN-US-HRM_SHV_X64FRE_EN-US_DV5.ISO
[10:02] <nabblet> ^ that's the command
[10:02] <histo> nabblet: Try doing it locally to a different directory and see if the hash matches
[10:04] <nabblet> histo, before i do that i'll transfer the file from scratch
[10:04] <histo> nabblet: also maybe the transfer is stoping ransfer is stopping and partial is messing eiwth you. Check the file size on the other end.
[10:05] <nabblet> histo, file sizes are the same
[10:05] <histo> nabblet: how are you checking the hashes then?
[10:06] <nabblet> histo sha1sum
[10:06] <nabblet> both systems are ubuntu
[10:07] <histo> nabblet: try transfering locally and checking hash somethign like rsync -P /path/to/blah.iso /tmp/blah.iso
[10:09] <nabblet> histo, can't do - i'm on a "discless" server and the image is 3 GB and on a 4 GB stick :P- lucky, huh
[10:09] <paws> why am i getting E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-xen-server?
[10:09] <nabblet> histo, anyway, i will restransfer from scrath
[10:09] <histo> !info ubuntu-xen-server | paws
[10:09] <histo> nabblet: No need as rsync should transfer the differences in the file.
[10:09] <Ondra> hello
[10:10] <paws> histo: so how can i install xen server?
[10:10] <nabblet> histo, but it does not - thant's my problem
[10:10] <histo> nabblet: Have you re run the rsync command to see if it dropped a few bytes somehow.
[10:10] <nabblet> histo, i rsynced several times, rsync says everything is all right, but the sha1sums differ
[10:10] <histo> !software | paws
[10:10] <RajeevK> I have installed ubuntu at another system, installed lamp server(working fine), copied drupal instance & dump database...but when I try to browse that by localhost/folder_name, it says "Forbidden, You don't have permission..."
[10:11] <Ondra> I have Ubuntu 12.10. It has Qt Creator 2.5.2 in its repositories. How can I get Qt Creator 2.7.0 (beta)? I found it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator but I don't know how to get it from raring... Thanks!
[10:11] <histo> !backports | Ondra
[10:12] <Ondra> RajeevK: Does the document root folder have set permissions? (i.e. read for user running lamp)
[10:12] <histo> RajeevK: what are the permissions of the folder where the files are hosted?
[10:12] <histo> s/folder/directory/
[10:13] <paws> i know i have to use to apt-get
[10:13] <histo> nabblet: trying to transfer the files locally will be faster.
[10:13] <histo> !ppa > paws
[10:13] <RajeevK> var/www/troop & permission is set to "root" as I see
[10:13] <sveinse> Is there a way to control dns priority in dnsmasq/NM in precise? I'm having problems resolving certain private DNS entries as my machine is connected to private lan and a public wlan
[10:14] <histo> RajeevK: ls -l /var/www/
[10:14] <sveinse> Its often selecting to use the wifi's DNS server which can't resolve entries which reside on the private lan
[10:14] <RajeevK> Ondra: I am logged in from the admin I hope as this is the user which I was created
[10:15] <invariant> Which program converts a CD wav file to a list of mp3 files?
[10:15] <histo> sveinse: you can add your own dns servers in network manager gui. Or add them to the resolvconf head file.
[10:15] <RajeevK> histo: All are root root
[10:15] <histo> invariant: ffmpeg or many others
[10:15] <histo> RajeevK: yes but the attributes???
[10:15] <RajeevK> histo: 4096
[10:16] <histo> RajeevK: can you paste the line with the directory in here so we can see the dwrx-r-....
[10:16] <invariant> histo, I mean like a complete command then.
[10:16] <invariant> histo, saying ffmpeg is like saying that one needs to use a computer.
[10:16] <RajeevK> histo: one sec
[10:16] <histo> invariant: ffmpeg -i somefile.wav -o somefile.mp3
[10:16] <invariant> histo, oh, I figured it would be more difficult :) THanks
[10:16] <histo> invariant: or use rythmbox to rip the CD to ogg files
[10:16] <invariant> histo, well, no.
[10:17] <harbor> quick question: how do i /list on an irc server using empathy?
[10:17] <invariant> histo, I want a list of  mp3 files.
[10:17] <sveinse> histo: Well. resolv.conf is autogenerated by NM, so it will be overwritten. Secondly, I don't want to override the DHCP given dns server by either nic's. I just want some kind of metric mechanism for dns server. Is that possible?
[10:17] <dr_willis> !alis | harbor
[10:17] <histo> invariant: Keep in mind the ubuntu variant of ffmpeg used to not have mp3 support built in. I'm not sure if this is still the case.
[10:17] <invariant> histo, this just creates one and doesn't do silence detection, etc.
[10:17] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[10:17] <harbor> dope. thank you
[10:17] <invariant> histo, actually, I would even prefer to get it in flac format.
[10:17] <RajeevK> histo: drwx-w-w 13 root root 4096 Feb 19 15:29 troop990
[10:18] <invariant> histo, so, wav -> list of flac format.
[10:18] <histo> invariant: I'm sure ffmpeg may have an option to import multiple files. If not you could do something with find. like find . -iname '*.wav' -exec ffmpeg -i {} -o {*.mp3} /;  not sure if this would work but my syntax maybe right.
[10:19] <invariant> histo, you didn't read what I said.
[10:19] <histo> invariant: ffmpeg uses the -o *.ogg if you want flac or whatever.
[10:19] <invariant> histo, I said "to" not "from".
[10:19] <sqrt7744> hi, I'm not really an awk expert, when I run this: ps x | awk '/chrome\ /{print $1}'  I get a column of PIDs. I'd like them to be in a comma separated list instead, any ideas?
[10:19] <histo> invariant: huh?
[10:19] <invariant> histo, one file to multiple outputs based on the silence in the file.
[10:19] <RajeevK> histo: Did you get that ?
[10:19] <invariant> histo, the wav file was created as a rip of a CD.
[10:20] <histo> invariant: ahh so you have a wav file of the entire cd?
[10:20] <invariant> histo, yes
[10:20] <histo> RajeevK: chmod o+r -R /var/www/troop990    ???
[10:20] <histo> RajeevK: maybe it's something with your paache setup
[10:20] <histo> RajeevK: hold up for someone else don't use my command.
[10:21] <RajeevK> histo: Ok
[10:21] <histo> invariant: Don't know of a way to do that. let me look for something
[10:21] <histo> invariant: try in ffmpeg or someone here may know of another tool.
[10:21] <Ondra> !packaging
[10:22] <Ondra> !backports
[10:23] <histo> RajeevK: ask your question again all in one line with details
[10:23] <histo> !details | RajeevK
[10:23] <histo> RajeevK: see if someone else knows
[10:23] <RajeevK> Ok
[10:25] <Kartagis> RajeevK: what's your exact issue?
[10:25] <RajeevK> I have downloaded 12.10 today & installed it in another system. I have installed lamp-server in there & phpmyadmin as well & it seems working fine. I have copied drupal instance from first machine to new one & dump DB too
[10:25] <Kartagis> and?
[10:26] <RajeevK> But when I am trying to navigate localhost/site_name, it says - "403 Forbidden, You don't have permission to access / on this server"
[10:26] <Kartagis> RajeevK: does .htaccess exist?
[10:26] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Where to find ?
[10:26] <nabblet> histo, ok, it works - bruteforce rsync from scrath. anyway, if it would not have helped, i next step would be to use the --checksum option and/or buffer flush
[10:27] <Kartagis> RajeevK: that error means you don't have an index.html to begin with
[10:27] <fredriksk> just installed xscreensaver. Most of the screensavers in the list gives me "not installed" when I clicked on them. How can I install them?
[10:27] <Kartagis> RajeevK: ls -a
[10:27] <RajeevK> Kartagis: I am not even able to navigate inside the folder
[10:28] <Kartagis> RajeevK: do you get permission denied?
[10:28] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Yes
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> RajeevK  were you familiar with ubuntu, before this installation?
[10:28] <Kartagis> RajeevK: is that /var/www/something?
[10:29] <dr_willis> fredriksk:  apt-cache search xscreensaver  and install the ones you want
[10:29] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Its inside /var/www/troop990
[10:29] <RajeevK> Kartagis: I can't go inside troop990 here
[10:29] <MaxFrames> hello
[10:29] <histo> nabblet: that's weird what happened. You may want to fsck the filesystems.
[10:29] <histo> nabblet: or check dmesg for errors
[10:29] <RajeevK> MonkeyDust: No sir...but I am using it for sometime like 3-4 months
[10:30] <Kartagis> RajeevK: sudo chmod 775 /var/www/troop990
[10:30] <MaxFrames> is there a way to make so that a limited user (not-sudoer) can access an ntfs partition? this system dual boots windows xp and ubuntu, and the ubuntu user must be able to access the ntfs partition
[10:30] <MaxFrames> when he tries to access it, he's requested super user authentication
[10:30] <MaxFrames> i.e. the partition is mounted but permissions don't allow him to access itr
[10:30] <dr_willis> you mount it from fstab with the right ntfs-3g options MaxFrames
[10:30] <dr_willis> or run ntfs-config and configure it that way
[10:31] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[10:31] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Now I can access the folder, but still blank page at navigation
[10:31] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Means at localhost/troop990
[10:31] <MaxFrames> thanks, I'll try
[10:32] <Kartagis> RajeevK: tailf /var/log/apache2/access.log
[10:32] <histo> Kartagis: all his permissions are jacked. Do all sub files need to be o+r  for apache? I wasn't sure
[10:33] <Kartagis> histo: chmod and chown will do
[10:34] <MaxFrames> reading about ntfs-config... but it looks like what it does is already taken care of (i.e. the ntfs partition is already mounted at boot)
[10:34] <RajeevK> Kartagis: You need those lines ?
[10:34] <Kartagis> RajeevK: what lines?
[10:35] <Kartagis> RajeevK: yea, pastebin it somewhere
[10:35] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Ok
[10:36] <Kartagis> brb
[10:37] <RajeevK> Kartagis: http://pastebin.com/tHGqNzQV
[10:39] <dr_willis> MaxFrames:  if you have a fstab entry for it. then you just need to use the right options
[10:40] <Ondra> histo: I have used the backports, upgraded using "apt-get upgrade" (it downloaded 32 MB of files) but qt creator is still 2.5.2 (I looked at apt-get changelog). Problem is, that 2.7.0 (which I want) is in raring, not quantal. Can I backport that? Thanks
[10:40] <g00053> is whitespace important in fstab ?
[10:40] <Kartagis> RajeevK: tailf /var/log/apache2/error.log
[10:41] <dr_willis> a tab one space or a dozen dozent matter g00053
[10:41] <g00053> ah okay
[10:42] <histo> Ondra: Maybe you can find a ppa for it
[10:42] <skjoedt> I know this is a trivial question but how come Ubuntu uses linux kernel 3.5 while in december 3.7 was released and yesterday 3.8 came out. I imagine it comes down to driver compatibility but isn't it backward compatible?
[10:42] <histo> !ppa | Ondra
[10:42] <histo> Ondra: or you'd be stuck building it from source
[10:42] <dr_willis> !latest | skjoedt
[10:42] <histo> skjoedt: stability
[10:42] <histo> skjoedt: ubuntu is not a rolling release. If you ever had experience with one you would understand why.
[10:43] <nabblet> histo, yes
[10:43] <histo> nabblet: yes??
[10:43] <RajeevK> Kartagis: http://pastebin.com/8VFe5ST7
[10:44] <nabblet> histo, the server i am using is a lenovo ideapad - not the best thing. also it started to fall apart (that why it became a server, sitting in the corner of a room) - so hdd error are plausible
[10:44] <nabblet> histo, you said i should check the file system
[10:44] <nabblet> histo, sorry, the delay of my replay ripped it out of context  :P
[10:44] <Kartagis> RajeevK: show me the output of ls -ld /var/www/troop990
[10:45] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[10:45] <RajeevK> Kartagis: drwxrwxr-x 13 root root 4096 Feb 19 15:29 /var/www/troop990
[10:45] <histo> nabblet: check dmesg see if there are IO errors
[10:46] <nabblet> histo, dmesg | grep error reutrn nothing
[10:46] <Kartagis> RajeevK: chmod 775 /var/www/troop990;chown www-data:www-data /var/www/troop990
[10:46] <oeeve> Hi, what would be a good program if I would like to automatically .zip and backup a bunch of folders to a different drive once a day? ..making a new .zip every day while keeping the last 10 copies or someting
[10:46] <histo> nabblet: that's wierd I've never had that issue although I never really was checking.
[10:46] <nabblet> histo, grep for I/O -> also no error messages
[10:47] <RajeevK> Kartagis: chmod: changing permissions of `/var/www/troop990': Operation not permitted
[10:47] <histo> oeeve: cron job and you could use something like logrotate to delete e the old ones I guess
[10:47] <nabblet> histo, guys in #debian suggested that a bit flipped and the caches didn't register that (obviously) so that's why rsync thought everything was OK
[10:47] <skjoedt> histo, I was using arch linux for a while and mostly what I experienced was incompatibility between packages and libraries. I dont know where the kernel lies in all of this. I imagined that kernel developers were restricted to keep backward compatibility a must. Where is the rule that makes this not so simple?
[10:47] <Kartagis> RajeevK: sudo chmod 775 /var/www/troop990;sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www/troop990
[10:48] <histo> skjoedt: Your experience wiht arch is a start. Imaging all the issues with modules etc... There are issues with newer kernels and other things.
[10:48] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Ok..done
[10:48] <oeeve> histo thanks;)
[10:48] <RajeevK> Kartagis: But still cant't access the URL
[10:49] <histo> Kartagis: I think the issue is the files in ..../toop990/*
[10:49] <SerenE_SparK> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0
[10:49] <histo> oeeve: np
[10:49] <SerenE_SparK> what is this please can someone explain me
[10:49] <RajeevK> Kartagis: drwxrwxr-x 13 www-data www-data 4096 Feb 19 15:29 /var/www/troop990
[10:50] <Kartagis> RajeevK: do this: cd /var/www/troop990;find . -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \; && find . -type f -exec chmod 0644 {} \;
[10:50] <skjoedt> histo, Are there any official milestones for when kernel 3.6 will be deployed in native ubuntu?
[10:50] <Kartagis> SerenE_SparK: that someone is browsing your site with firefox on windows
[10:51] <Kartagis> SerenE_SparK: ff8, to be precise
[10:51] <skjoedt> histo, or could they theoretically jump directly to 3.8?
[10:51] <RajeevK> Kartagis: chmod: changing permissions of `.': Operation not permitted
[10:51] <RajeevK> chmod: changing permissions of `./scripts': Operation not permitted
[10:51] <RajeevK> find: `./scripts': Permission denied
[10:51] <RajeevK> Kartagis: And this is for all folder inside troop990
[10:51] <SerenE_SparK> Kartagis:i google it and found it to be detection of browser resolution
[10:52] <Kartagis> RajeevK: do this: cd /var/www/troop990;sudo find . -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \; && sudo find . -type f -exec chmod 0644 {} \;
[10:52] <SerenE_SparK> Kartagis:how can i do the same in Linux
[10:52] <Esor> j
[10:52] <Kartagis> SerenE_SparK: do you have apache installed
[10:52] <Kartagis> ?
[10:52] <SerenE_SparK> yes
[10:53] <Kartagis> browse your site on linux and watch the logs
[10:53] <SerenE_SparK> Kartagis:do you know java?
[10:53] <Kartagis> no, why?
[10:53] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Yes it did
[10:54] <RajeevK> Kartagis: So I have to use this for all project which I have copied there ?
[10:54] <[LgO]Aionicus> Good morning all :) hows you all doing
[10:54] <Kartagis> RajeevK: depends, but you might be better off
[10:54] <SerenE_SparK> i had a code in java which uses connection.setRequestProperty("User-Agent", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0");
[10:54] <Kartagis> doing it
[10:54] <SerenE_SparK> here it was required
[10:55] <Kartagis> SerenE_SparK: and this is related to ubuntu how?
[10:56] <SerenE_SparK> for doing this operation in Linux machine i need an exec() command to be operated so that i can get the browser version detected and can be further utilised
[10:56] <[LgO]Aionicus> anybody here have some expertise in getting ubuntu running next to a windows 8 uefi installation (i would delete the win 8 but not allowed by employer).
[10:57] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Many many thanks
[10:57] <Kartagis> np RajeevK
[10:58] <dr_willis> [LgO]Aionicus:  its not a Samsung Laptop is it?
[10:58] <[LgO]Aionicus> can i state its worse ? its a HP laptop
[10:58] <dr_willis> Samsungs can be Bricked when installing Ubuntu  or reinstgalling windows onto them
[10:58] <[LgO]Aionicus> first time i tried with linux mint / opensuse it completely ruined windows 8 EFI and it took me half the week to get our licenses sorted/win8 sorted
[10:59] <[LgO]Aionicus> now im trying with the secure-remix 12.10 (ubuntu)
[10:59] <[LgO]Aionicus> but i can only get it shown in legacy mode :(
[10:59] <RajeevK> Kartagis: What I have to do here to use drush ?
[11:00] <[LgO]Aionicus> i got a rewriteable DVDR and a couple of usb sticks here , but its kinda stressing me out :( i long for the old bios
[11:01] <Kartagis> RajeevK: I usually extract it to /usr/local/bin/drush
[11:03] <Ondra> histo: I found a PPA, thank you.
[11:04] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Why I am not able to use simple copy & paste in this install...only CMD cp is working for copy
[11:04] <Kartagis> RajeevK: you could also do sudo apt-get install drush, but I'd recommend getting it from d.o
[11:04] <Kartagis> RajeevK: huh?
[11:04] <dr_willis> you are trying to drag/drop using the file manager? or did you run nautilus as root RajeevK ?
[11:05] <RajeevK> dr_willis: I am trying to copy paste from mouse right click or ctrl+c
[11:05] <ThinkT510> RajeevK: from where to where?
[11:05] <dr_willis> RajeevK:  so you are running a file manager window as a user. and you are tryng to copy to your users Home directory? or some system directory?
[11:06] <RajeevK> From Download folder to /usr/local/bin/
[11:06] <dr_willis> RajeevK:  and you do realize you need root/sudo rights to copy things to that directory?
[11:06] <[LgO]Aionicus> was about to say that willis :)
[11:07] <RajeevK> dr_willis: DOn't know
[11:07] <dr_willis> This is  Kinda a fundamental concept with linux.
[11:07] <dr_willis> RajeevK:  think about it..  You had a system with 100 users.. you think they all could just copy files to any system directories?
[11:08] <dr_willis> RajeevK:  use sudo/gksudo and gain root rights then you can copy files to the system directories
[11:08] <[LgO]Aionicus> in order to move stuff around on linux RajeevK (outside your "my documents" equivelent from windows , your $home) you need the root right , so generally :
[11:08] <RajeevK> But I am logged in from admin user..right ?
[11:08] <[LgO]Aionicus> cd $home , cd Downloads , then sudo cp the files you wanna copy to /usr/local/bin
[11:09] <dr_willis> a admin user can GAIN root rights.. it does not always have root access
[11:09] <dr_willis> thats what sudo/gksudo does for you
[11:09] <dr_willis> elevates your power!
[11:09] <[LgO]Aionicus> sudo allows you to run stuff as admin without actually having to be root@box , you still need the pw for root thou
[11:09] <RajeevK> dr_willis: Ohk...that means I cant copy here from simply GUI but will have to use CMD
[11:10] <dr_willis> RajeevK:  or run nautulus as root.. as i mentioned 10 min ago.. but thats a Bad habbit
[11:10] <[LgO]Aionicus> yep , unless you open up your filemanager with (sudo) rights
[11:10] <dr_willis> nautilus as root = ive seen peopel trash their systems with it..
[11:10] <[LgO]Aionicus> oh willis , ive seen worse
[11:11] <RajeevK> dr_willis: Thanks
[11:11] <dr_willis> if i really want a file manager as root. i tend to open a shell and use 'sudo mc' ;)
[11:11] <Touhou11> There's nothing wrong with using root if you're careful. Often people type "sudo" so often it becomes pointless
[11:11] <[LgO]Aionicus> ive seen people install windows 8 , and ruin my day with it ! :D
[11:11] <ThinkT510> RajeevK: what are to trying to copy to /usr/loical/bin/ and why?
[11:11] <dr_willis> then i close the mc when im done
[11:11] <RajeevK> ThinkT510: I was trying to copy 'drush' inside that
[11:12] <ThinkT510> !info drush
[11:12] <[LgO]Aionicus> RajeevK
[11:12] <ThinkT510> RajeevK: that isn't how you install things
[11:12] <bhaiguy> hey, subway irc doesnt work on my 12.10! help!
[11:12] <[LgO]Aionicus> cant you just do sudo apt-get install drush?
[11:12] <dr_willis> It would be best to use drush from the repos.. unless you have a good reason not to..
[11:12] <Kartagis> [LgO]Aionicus: drush in ubuntu repos is old
[11:13] <dr_willis> bhaiguy:  and whats subway irc?
[11:13] <RajeevK> I downloaded it from drupal.org
[11:13] <dr_willis> RajeevK:  and did you look for a newer ppa first?
[11:13] <[LgO]Aionicus> lemme check drupal.org quickly
[11:13] <Kartagis> RajeevK: cd /usr/local/bin/;tar zxvf ~/drush-7.x-5.8.tar.gz
[11:13] <bhaiguy> dr_willis: https://github.com/thedjpetersen/subway/
[11:14] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Oh..thanks
[11:15] <bhaiguy> hello?? any1?
[11:16] <waraqa> Hi,
[11:16] <bhaiguy> **hey, subway irc doesnt work on my 12.10! help!**
[11:16] <[LgO]Aionicus> what error do you get bhaiguy?
[11:17] <bhaiguy> [LgO]Aionicus: let me make a paste of it
[11:17] <dr_willis> and did you check the subway irc support channel/forums. ;)
[11:18] <[LgO]Aionicus> well considering im going crazy with this efi issue, why not take a look at his issue (subway) while im waiting for this crap to sort itself out ;p
[11:18] <waraqa> I want to request Ubuntu cds, Who should I contact?
[11:18] <dr_willis> waraqa:  buy them from cheapbytes.com perhaps?
[11:19] <Touhou11> waraqa: They don't send out Ubuntu CDs anymore, you have to pay
[11:19] <DJones> waraqa: SHipit no longer sends out cd's, if you contact your Ubuntu loco, they may have some they could send you though
[11:19] <dr_willis> 12.10 needs a dvd  these days ;)
[11:19] <waraqa> No official site for selling ubuntu?
[11:20] <dr_willis> the ubuntu.com store?
[11:20] <DJones> waraqa: Which country are you in? I'll point you towards a local Ubuntu channel
[11:20] <RajeevK> Kartagis: Can't use "drush dl", it gives - "Directory /var/www exists, but is not writable. Please check directory permissions."
[11:20] <bhaiguy> [LgO]Aionicus: here it is... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1681416/
[11:21] <[LgO]Aionicus> k gimme a sec
[11:21] <waraqa> I want to participate in student exhibiton and offer ubuntu cds and maybe other linux distros
[11:21] <waraqa> I live in UAE
[11:21] <bhaiguy> ok
[11:22] <[LgO]Aionicus> what i can see so far bhaiguy is that it crashes on a dependency
[11:22] <[LgO]Aionicus> 4111 error Failed at the iconv@1.2.4 install script.
[11:22] <bhaiguy> i see tat too... wat should i do?
[11:23] <[LgO]Aionicus> well lemme check what it crashes on
[11:23] <waraqa> All exhibitors are students and I need some resources for promoting ubuntu
[11:24] <DJones> waraqa: There is an Ubuntu UAE loco team at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ae That gives an IRC channel of ##ubuntu-ae The website has a contact name on it as well
[11:24] <RajeevK> [LgO]Aionicus: How to make "Directory /var/www" writable so that I can download drupal by "drush dl" ?
[11:24] <DJones> w 23
[11:24] <waraqa> DJones: I will check
[11:24] <Physicist> Hi fellas. I want to install backtrack programs in my ubuntu, but I need know the possibilities...
[11:25] <Physicist> Invasion Programs.
[11:25] <dr_willis> possibilty of totally trashing your system Physicist
[11:25] <Physicist> Test Invasion programs.
[11:25] <[LgO]Aionicus> @Physicist , you need to add the backtrack repo's and then you can update em , but keep in mind that bt is build / designed for it . so you gonna get a lot of bumps on the road
[11:26] <savagecroc> how do you do SSH key forwarding with rsync?
[11:26] <Physicist> Undestood. I have a Live BT CD.. I will install in TRIPLE BOOT...
[11:27] <DJones> Physicist: If the packages are available in the Ubuntu repo's you can install them from synaptic etc, if they're 3rd party repo's or backtrack repo's you'll need to ask the maintainer or in the backtrack channel, they will probably have different dependencies and could well break your system
[11:27] <Physicist> I have so much space :-|
[11:27] <DJones> !backtrack | Physicist
[11:27] <bazhang> Physicist, get bt support in their channel
[11:27] <[LgO]Aionicus> @Rajeevk chmod it , think its sudo chmod 775 /var/www (might wanna google the numbers thou )
[11:28] <RajeevK> [LgO]Aionicus: Done
[11:28] <RajeevK> [LgO]Aionicus: Its working...Thanks
[11:28] <Physicist> I know and already did it. Thank you all.
[11:28] <[LgO]Aionicus> @bhaiguy i checked for you but it seems the is a error in the iconv bit itself , you really gonna have to past that paste @ the support forum of subway for this matter , its to advanced for my knowledge
[11:29] <Physicist> I think better install from zero .. I have space.
[11:29] <bhaiguy> [LgO]Aionicus: oh thankyou for your time! :)
[11:30] <[LgO]Aionicus> @bhaiguy what you could do thou as a last resort is get the latest version from his git repository , see if that works ,might even try an older version to see if problem appears on same spot
[11:31] <[LgO]Aionicus> @all -> anybody know why i can get my ubuntu live cd to boot as EFI but when i try to install it it does not state it can find my windows 8 install?
[11:31] <ThinkT510> !uefi | [LgO]Aionicus been through this
[11:32] <waraqa> DJones: There is nobody in their irc, what loco can usually offer ?
[11:32] <bhaiguy> [LgO]Aionicus: i tried infinite times with the latest version...
[11:33] <[LgO]Aionicus> ye i have been trough that
[11:33] <[LgO]Aionicus> been trying to get this hell sorted for 5 work days in a row (5x8 hours)
[11:33] <[LgO]Aionicus> first time it actually borked up my entire windows 8 , boss was not to happy about it
[11:33] <ThinkT510> [LgO]Aionicus: you're doing this on a work machine?
[11:34] <[LgO]Aionicus> Ye , work bought a bloody hp lappie for development however they failed to pay attention and got forked with a windows 8 EFI junked lappie
[11:34] <[LgO]Aionicus> thing is , i get the black boot screen so it should boot as EFI , just wondering why it does not state : Install Ubuntu alongside others
[11:35] <vnc786> i want to do samba sharing for xp (3)users only how do i do that there is no domain ...any hint
[11:35] <DJones> waraqa: Loking at the UAE website, there is a link to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ae that mentions a mailing list, I'd suggest sending an email to the mailing list and asking on that
[11:35] <ThinkT510> [LgO]Aionicus: i don't know, i've happily stayed away from all things (u)efi
[11:35] <squig> does any one know if 12.04.2 fixes the does not install on systems with more than one disk issue? or where I find a change list of fixes in the installer?
[11:35] <flintser> !samba | vnc786
[11:35] <waraqa> DJones: ok, thanks
[11:36] <DJones> waraqa: You're welcome, good luck getting hold of some installation media
[11:37] <num7> hi, i add a new user to a group in /etc/gshadow with "gpasswd -A newuser group" but i can't remove it from this gruop with "gpasswd -d newuser group" Why?
[11:37] <[LgO]Aionicus> ill give the mailing list a go , thou im sure the big boss will not be that happy ;p
[11:37] <stan879nz> Hello if i want a user not to be able to use my copy of a program would i have to change the permissions of the folder
[11:38] <flintser> stan879nz: you can use chmod
[11:38] <flintser> !permissions | stan879nz
[11:38] <stan879nz> 700? but would the user be able to install his own copy of the program
[11:39] <vnc786> ubottu: do u know how do i share folder only for xp users with 777 perm since other user shuld not get view ...
[11:39] <flintser> stan879nz: change the folder permissions so that only you can use it. 770 makes you, and your group to have all, and rest will have no permissions
[11:40] <Eagleman> Any idea why most MAC addresses dont get a respond from my ISP's dhcp server?
[11:40] <stan879nz> 770 thanks if the other users install there copies of the software would they clash if they were both running?
[11:41] <flintser> stan879nz: i'd like to hear the whole thing, what are you trying to do in what kind of environment?
[11:42] <Malsasa> Hello, is Size field necessary in debian/control file? Or just Installed-Size field?
[11:44] <stan879nz> everyone in my family has there own steam account and we all dont want to share the same file structure, so i would like everyone to have there own so they dont have to logout to change users
[11:44] <dr_willis> hmm.. do steam games install to the users home on linux? or a system wide location like they do on windows?
[11:45] <stan879nz> sys wide
[11:45] <flintser> stan879nz: logout from ubuntu or logout from steam? steam installs in home
[11:45] <dr_willis> steam is weird on linux. ;)  theres parts of it on the system ive seen. then first run of it.. some stuff goes to the users home
[11:45] <flintser> steam installs globally, but games install in /home/user
[11:46] <flintser> and configs too go in /home/user/
[11:46] <flintser> .steam is the folder
[11:46] <DJones> dr_willis: I would expect it'd be to /home, I was having a play on sunday and I needed a password to install steam itself, but I wasn't prompted for one when it got to installing a game
[11:47] <flintser> so stan879nz: you can just install steam, every user has their own folder in /home/user/.steam ehere the configurations and games go
[11:47] <cr000> hi! i have installed kubuntu installed native and it is not able to run my wireless card, i want now to start it in a virtual machine to route the wireless through the vm as wire ethernet
[11:48] <flintser> no extra work to do
[11:48] <cr000> is there a way to start the kubuntu native installation inside a vm without using vmware?
[11:48] <dr_willis> cr000:  what os is running the vm?
[11:49] <cr000> fedora18 64b
[11:49] <flintser> cr000: install virtualization platform, and theb you can just use the .iso and mount it in the vm
[11:49] <dr_willis> you can set up vbox to run  from a real hard drive.. but its not reccomdnedd.. or you could image the installed hd to a image file and point vbox to that
[11:49] <dr_willis> seems weird that fedora has drives for the wifi but not ubuntu.
[11:50] <stan879nz> thanks for the info about were all the files are going. so we wouldnt be able to be login all at the same time because steam it self is global
[11:50] <flintser> stan879nz: actually i don't know, it might even be possible
[11:51] <flintser> cr000: you can do disk2vhd to create .vhd of the ACTUAL hard drive or partition
[11:51] <flintser> then mount it in vm
[11:51] <flintser> easier to just do clean install in vm
[11:51] <cr000> it is important to use the kubuntu later natively, so using iso or make a vm-file of the real partition is no solution :( i will search vbox and try this possibility
[11:52] <flintser> cr000: ok, then do what dr_willis proposed. setup vbox to run from actual hard drive
[11:53] <cr000> yes alredy downloading it ;) thanks for the help guys!
[11:59] <awaad> I am using export http_proxy="http://server:port" for http traffic, but I need to know how can I make the same thing with https and ftp traffic.
[12:00] <Eagleman> Any idea why most MAC addresses dont get a respond from my ISP's dhcp server?
[12:00] <Physicist> I am really enjoying Kubuntu 12.10... KDE is so good.
[12:00] <Ali_Bahjati> hey guys
[12:00] <Ali_Bahjati> hey guys
[12:01] <Physicist> So much personable..
[12:01] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[12:01] <Physicist> So much fast..
[12:02] <dr_willis> id have to suggest checking on askubuntu.com - since i dont know off the top of my head. ;)
[12:02] <bono> awaad: https_proxy= , ftp_proxy=
[12:02] <dr_willis> thats too logical! ;)
[12:03] <Physicist> awaad: Do not ask to ak a question. Just send your problem and the community will answer if possible.
[12:03] <flintser> Physicist: !ask is easier :)
[12:05] <Ali_Bahjati> I have got a problem in ubutnu 12.10 , thats that when I keep a button pressing, it doesn't works , it just  add one character, what can I do ? anyone can help ?
[12:05] <Physicist> flintser... Realy? :-| (sarcasm)
[12:05] <elenaAAAA> c/join #zoodyaco
[12:05] <elenaAAAA> ciao!
[12:05] <elenaAAAA> !list
[12:05] <cristian_c> lol
[12:05] <Physicist> flintser... :-)
[12:10] <Eagleman> Any idea why dhclient -r does not release the ip address on my eth1.10 interface?
[12:10] <shomon> hi, so ubuntu is now "precompromised" by default?
[12:10] <shomon> sending keylogger data via dash??
[12:10] <shomon> anyone have info on this?
[12:10] <dr_willis> !fud
[12:11] <dr_willis> if you want to disable the amazon addlens thats trivial to do .
[12:11] <dr_willis> !adlens
[12:12] <shomon> so for most users it will be on by default
[12:13] <Kartagis> dr_willis: so, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[12:13] <roundyz> \q
[12:13] <roundyz> \q
[12:13] <DJones> shomon: Yes its on by default but its takes a few seconds to disable it
[12:13] <RamtinA> yes you can disable it, but that was why i leave ubuntu. ubuntu was ( and is ) a great distro but this ...
[12:13] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  ive never used xen. so no idea
[12:13] <shomon> is there a sub distro where that error is corrected?
[12:13] <dr_willis> dont use the unity lens feature if you dont want it.. or turn it off
[12:13] <mobman> Hi.. I'm using ubuntu-12.04. I've accidentally deleted a .cpp file in eclipse. 'locate' shows the file is still in the folder but I cannot open it. Can anybody help me to recover the file?
[12:14] <shomon> maybe it can be patched up again not to have that default setting, regardless of canonical's choices
[12:14] <dr_willis> 13.04 is adding some 100+ more shopping lens for people to use from what ive seen
[12:14] <dr_willis> its a gconf setting i imagine. so no need to patch anything
[12:14] <DJones> shomon: Its not an error, its by design to enhance the facilities of the dash, discussion is best done in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[12:14] <dr_willis> mobman:  locate uses a database of files.. its not always current
[12:14] <neuro_sys> Hello could anyone check the version of the package glib-2.0?
[12:14] <wdp> dr_willis, actually (ot tho, sorry for that) i'd be interested in how many people actually use that feature and how many just throw it away :)
[12:15] <dr_willis> wdp:  my wife loves it.
[12:15] <DJones> !info glib-2.0
[12:15] <DJones> !find glib-2.0
[12:15] <dr_willis> i tend to use the help/askubuntu.com lens more then anything else.
[12:15] <neuro_sys> Erm, are there no glib 2 dev package?
[12:15] <samara2> samara2 says 'good morning'
[12:15] <neuro_sys> !info glib 2 dev
[12:15] <wdp> ic.
[12:16] <kymjs> e
[12:16] <neuro_sys> !info libglib2.0-dev
[12:16] <Eagleman> Any idea why dhclient -r does not release the ip address on my eth1.10 interface?
[12:16] <mobman> dr_willis: Thanx for reply. Can I recover the file?
[12:16] <dr_willis> !undelete
[12:16] <antonio_> Whats the best way to install java on 12.10?
[12:16] <dr_willis> there might be some backups hidden wher eit was at.
[12:17] <DJones> !java | antonio_
[12:17] <dr_willis> antonio_:  the iced tea java is in the repos
[12:22] <Ali_Bahjati> I have got a problem in ubutnu 12.10 , thats that when I keep a button pressing, it doesn't works , it just  add one character, what can I do ? anyone can help ?
[12:23] <Guest87782> root
[12:23] <avis> if any of you have booted mountain lion with ubuntu using refit can you define /home and swap partitions while dual booting and install ubuntu on a mac
[12:23] <avis> for ubuntu
[12:23] <Guest87782> gjj
[12:24] <DJones> Ali_Bahjati: Does this link offer a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/67973/repeated-keystrokes-lost-in-unity
[12:24] <flintser> dr_willis: considering java, is there any reason to select oracle java over iced tea?
[12:25] <dr_willis> depends on what you are running in java. Iced tea works for me
[12:25] <DJones> Ali_Bahjati: It mentions a bounce keys accessibility feature that can be accidentaly enabled via a keyboard shortcut
[12:25] <flintser> dr_willis: minecraft, web applications (playray.com)
[12:25] <ubuntuaddicted> morning/afternoon/evening
[12:25] <dr_willis> for minecraft see its site.reccomnendations. i dont do minecraft
[12:26] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use a xbox 360 controller with linux gaming? i can't get Team Fortress 2 to work. i have tried both xpad and xboxdrv
[12:26] <DJones> flintser: I used play minecraft with open jdk without any issues on 12.04
[12:27] <Touhou11> Oracle Java will generally have better performance, though the Open version has caught up a lot
[12:28] <flintser> Touhou11: that is what made me choose oracle java, but back then  it was just a feeling that it might have a better performance
[12:34] <[LgO]Aionicus> Quick question : Manual installation of ubuntu (secure EFI) next to windows 8 | No option to install next to system so doing a manual partition. Do i need to have a /Boot partition for this ? or is it enough to add swap / home and / mount points ? (considering there is an EFI partition)
[12:38] <flintser> [LgO]Aionicus: even swap and / should be enough.
[12:38] <flintser> i've never made separate /boot
[12:39] <flintser> sry for tripleposting, but one thing: i've also never installed on efi so i don't know do you need /boot for that. but i cant come to any conclusion why it should need one
[12:40] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use a xbox 360 controller with linux gaming? i can't get Team Fortress 2 to work. i have tried both xpad and xboxdrv
[12:40] <jnaour> Hello
[12:41] <geektech> stream says what controllers works with Steam on ubuntu
[12:41] <jnaour> I am trying to wirte in a system fils (/etc/fstab)
[12:41] <flintser> ubuntuaddicted: it should be p&p, but tf2 doesnt support for xbox360 controller i think
[12:41] <jnaour> I need sudoer right
[12:41] <dr_willis> sudo  rights...
[12:41] <jnaour> i am trying to do something like
[12:41] <dr_willis> sudo nano file
[12:41] <DJones> jnaour: You need to use the sudo command to edit the files, eg "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[12:41] <jnaour> sudo echo "blabla" > /etc/stab
[12:41] <jnaour> i just want to use CLI
[12:42] <dr_willis> sudo wont work with redirection like that.. Youneed a tee -a in there somewhere.
[12:42] <ubuntuaddicted> flintser, everything i read TF2 supports the controller. maybe that's only in windows?
[12:42] <flintser> !enter | jnaour
[12:42] <dr_willis> best to just use a text editor jnaour
[12:42] <ubuntuaddicted> flintser, what is p&p?
[12:42] <ubuntuaddicted> flintser, oh, plug and play. :)
[12:42] <dr_willis> and > and >> are very differnt jnaour  -  ONE will overwrite/erase the file..
[12:42] <dr_willis> the other appends TO a file
[12:43] <Ali__> I have got a problem in ubutnu 12.10 , thats that when I keep a button pressing, it doesn't works , it just  add one character, what can I do ? anyone can help ?
[12:43] <flintser> plug and play, ubuntuaddicted. i don't see why you would want controller to pc fps ^^ but xpad and xboxdrv should work... i researched and they suggested those, but some said that since 12.04 it should be plug and play
[12:43] <DJones> Ali__: Did the suggestion I gave you earlier not work?
[12:43] <dr_willis> Ali__:  did it work then suddendly stopped? tried logging out/back in?
[12:44] <Ali__> when I restart lighdm it works
[12:44] <Ali__> but I cannot restart It every time
[12:44] <ubuntuaddicted> flintser, i am a console gamer and can't get used to the keyboard so I wanted to try TF2 with the controller
[12:45] <dr_willis> Ali__:  so does it stop after you play some games in wine?
[12:45] <jnaour> I just want to add a line in a system file in a automatic way. I try to do it just using the terminal without a graphic thing something (I want to put that in a script).
[12:45] <BOJJOFILO> CIAO
[12:45] <BOJJOFILO> !list
[12:45] <dr_willis> jnaour:  then you better learn some bash basics and learn about > vs >>
[12:45] <flintser> jnaour: nano is in terminal...
[12:45] <dr_willis> nano is a console text editor. ;)
[12:45] <Ali__> I don't have wine
[12:45] <dr_willis> so when does it stop Ali__ ?
[12:45] <DJones> !who | Ali__
[12:46] <flintser> ubuntuaddicted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142393/help-in-setting-up-xbox-controller-wired-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:46] <lix> Good day. - I am just looking for an alternative to dropbox, selfhosted. I want a local folder, - similar as in dropbox, - to be synched with my GNU/Linux Debian server and would like to be able to arrange differnt user privileges on files /folders for other parties to be able to download the files (e.g. https). I looked into OwnCloud and Sparkleshare... Does anyone run such a solution productively & successfully? Suggestions would be appriacia
[12:46] <someone235> Hey, when I try to access SFTP through the Thunar, It doesn't respond. Someone can help me with this?
[12:46] <Ali__> OK
[12:47] <Ali__> dr_willis: It haven't had any specific time  yet
[12:47] <jnaour> thx dr_willis to remember me that but my problem is the same, How to add a line in a system file (with sudoer right) in a script
[12:47] <flintser> lix: ftp-server and some rsync scripts? ;D just a quick suggest
[12:48] <dr_willis> jnaour:  hit up google for 'root shell the right way ubuntu' and it should show an example of doing that using sudo and the tee command. ;)
[12:48] <dr_willis> I never can ermber the syntax.
[12:48] <jnaour> thx dr_willis I'll check that
[12:49] <lix> flintser: thanks for your reply. yes thats how I do it for myself. But I would like others, - that are unfamiliar with .htaccess config, - to be able to use such a solution as well. (e.g. ubuntu users and non-developers...) :-P
[12:50] <jnaour> Thx everybody, good bye
[12:50] <ubuntuaddicted> flintser, i've read that. i just can't get the game to register and use the controller
[12:50] <ubuntuaddicted> flintser,  i created a thread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518164#post12518164
[12:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> ugh sorry about that flint
[12:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> our wireless isnt that strong
[12:51] <lix> flintser: did you ever try sparkleshare or zend.to?
[12:51] <[LgO]Aionicus> 1 last question : for windows 8 (EFI) and ubuntu dual boot , do i need to setup the loader on /dev/sda , or rather on the EFI partition (/dev/sda2) ?
[12:54] <flintser> lix: nope, ftp-server is more than enough for my uses. i have public folder only write, my own folder private to me and if someone wants ftp-room i can create a folder to them with rwx for me and them
[12:54] <flintser> public has only read* ;D
[12:56] <lix> flintser: sure, I see. - but ftp is unencrypted and therefore no fiable solution for me. thanks for your suggestion anyways.
[12:56] <flintser> ftp supports ssl too
[12:57] <Kartagis> okay, so I upgraded the kernel, and when I try to boot to it, I get the same message
[12:57] <Kartagis> any ideas people?
[12:57]  * dr_willis sticks to ssh/scp
[12:58] <lix> flintser: indeed :)
[13:00] <ozpy> Kernel 3.8 Stable. Where can I download that?
[13:01] <DTH0_> hello
[13:01] <DTH0_> what is the program used in Ubuntu 12.10 to manage wallpaper ?
[13:02] <DTH0_> it is no more "gnome-appearance-properties" it seems, and after a few updates today my "Appearance" menu is missing.
[13:04] <judgen> I am having troubles with network-manager. Every time i connect to the wireless the wired connection dies and i get no internet...
[13:05] <flintser> DTH0_: right click on desktop and change wallpaper
[13:05] <DTH0_> judgen, it's not that it dies. Rather, AFAIK your system can only use one route at the same time.
[13:05] <cfhowlett> judgen, pretty sure ubuntu requires you select one or the other for use ...
[13:05] <DTH0_> flintser, this is bringing me back to overall system parameters
[13:06] <Jeaton> my desktop crashed, I have xchat running in the background but I do not know how to recover it without killing the process and reopening it
[13:06] <flintser> DTH0_: gnome-control-center opens system settings but...
[13:06] <DTH0_> judgen, and it tends to use the more recent one. You can't use both interfaces to access Internet if that's what you mean.
[13:06] <Jeaton> is there anyway of opening that process?
[13:07] <dr_willis> Jeaton:  not that ive really seen
[13:07] <DTH0_> Jeaton, depending on your DM, in a terminal 'unity' or 'gnome-shell' should relaunch the interface.
[13:07] <Jeaton> im running cinnamon
[13:07] <ozpy> Kernel 3.8 Stable. Where can I download that?
[13:08] <DTH0_> DTH0_, if gnome-session is still active try "Ctrl-Alt-T"
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Jeaton, ...
[13:08] <dr_willis> cunnamon is not supported here. but if you mean you can see the xchat window.. and just the window manager crashed. you can restart that
[13:09] <Jeaton> yes, the window manager crashed, but I do have xchat running under the processes
[13:09] <DTH0_> Jeaton, if gnome-session is still active try "Ctrl-Alt-T". And then "your-WM-command-whatever-it-is" or "cinnamon"
[13:09] <dr_willis> you can restart the window manager from a terminal if you can get one open
[13:09] <dr_willis> and knew its name
[13:09] <Jeaton> no, i got the window manager back running, but it didnt recover any active processes I had running
[13:10] <dr_willis> then i imagine they are all zombies. ;)
[13:10] <Jeaton> heh, ok
[13:10] <Jeaton> i might switch back to either gnome or unity, cinnamon has been a pain in the ass
[13:11] <dr_willis> and its not supported here.
[13:11] <flintser> Jeaton: should've installed mint :) i dont see a reason for ubuntu+cinnamon, mint does it properly and preconfigured
[13:11] <dr_willis> i dont see much point in mint and cinniman either. ;)
[13:12] <DTH0_> flintser, I found out that "gnome-control-center background" should do the job but it doesn't. Instead, it just opens overall control center...
[13:12] <Jeaton> i dont know what I was thinking, I should have just went with gnome classic
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:12] <Jeaton> i couldnt get use to unity, and I didnt like the new version of gnome
[13:12] <flintser> DTH0_: maybe they removed the gnome-appearance-properties and integrated all into gnome-control-center
[13:13] <dr_willis> unity works fine for me - has some neat features
[13:13] <rewarp> Jeaton. Tried KDE?
[13:13] <DTH0_> flintser, yes but even so, I don't get why it's working anymore.
[13:13] <flintser> and gnome-control-center background puts me straight into desktop background selection screen
[13:14] <Jeaton> rewarp:  yes, had KDE running right before cinnamon
[13:15] <DTH0_> flintser, well it fails on me for some reason.. as stated already sends me back to general settings without Appearance button
[13:16] <rewarp> Jeaton. I went WM/DE hopping a few months back and settled on KDE. It does take a bit of customization before it feels right.
[13:17] <flintser> dr_willis: i use unity too. i hid the launcher by setting auto-hide and lowest possible sensitivity. if i want to use lens i just press super :) docky and gnome-do for launching apps
[13:17] <dr_willis> gnome-control-center backgroun         dosent open any background settings here
[13:17] <dr_willis> just the system-settings main gui
[13:17] <dr_willis> theres no background icon in it. ;)
[13:19] <flintser> http://imagebin.org/247267
[13:20] <flintser> dr_willis: DTH0_ ^^
[13:22] <DTH0_> dr_willis, I sincerely hope it was just a mis-typing but it's not. It really won't work even with proper spelling.
[13:22] <DTH0_> ** (gnome-control-center:7426): WARNING **: Could not find settings panel "unity-appearance"
[13:22] <flintser> DTH0_: hmm... is it even in the settings menu?
[13:23] <Jeaton> much better, got cinnamon uninstalled and gnome classic back on
[13:23] <dr_willis> i dont see any wallpaper icon in the settings tool
[13:23] <flintser> woot..
[13:23] <DTH0_> No, it was named "Appearance"
[13:24] <dr_willis>  gnome-control-center appearance
[13:24] <dr_willis> ? dosent do anything here. ;) just the main window
[13:24] <DTH0_> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WmW69qHq7bI/T6lf6CNLkmI/AAAAAAAAC2o/laJ1O_ZMwOE/s1600/Gnome+Control+Center+Forked+as+Ubuntu+Control+Center.png
[13:25] <flintser> http://imagebin.org/247268
[13:25] <DTH0_> this was an example
[13:26] <StaRetji> Folks, is it safe to delete /usr/share/man/man3 ? I have vps server limited to number of inodes, so I wonder can I  do rm -r ? Thanks
[13:26] <flintser> how can this be :D why it works for me...
[13:27] <itai_michaelson> hi, my system suddenly takes 4 minutes to boot, can someone take a look at my dmesg output to confirm my suspicion that linux cant find my DVD drive on boot http://paste.ubuntu.com/1682098/
[13:27] <patrycjusz> hi all
[13:27] <patrycjusz> it is posible to install linux server on virtual box with WHM and cpanel ?
[13:28] <DTH0_> flintser, http://imagebin.org/247269
[13:29] <ikonia> patrycjusz: no reason why not
[13:29] <DTH0_> no appearance
[13:29] <craigbass1976> Is there an ubuntu version of a RedHat system's /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf ?  I'm trying to make a website that runs in Ubuntu run on Fedora and can't figure out what's so different between the two boxes versions of apache and php
[13:30] <ikonia> craigbass1976: the platform makes no differnce
[13:30] <ikonia> craigbass1976: what's the actual problem
[13:30] <flintser> itai_michaelson: remove the dvd drive and boot
[13:30] <StaRetji> Folks, is it safe to delete /usr/share/man/man3 ? I have vps server limited to number of inodes, so I wonder can I  do rm -r ? Really need to know urgent. THX!
[13:30] <ikonia> StaRetji: why do you want to remove the man pages
[13:30] <TakeItEZ> StaRetji: you should be fine removing those man3*, it just will give some warnings if you remove tha according packages sometime
[13:30] <ikonia> StaRetji: just add more inodes
[13:30] <DTH0_> and "gnome-control-center background" will give me
[13:30] <DTH0_> ** (gnome-control-center:12672): WARNING **: Could not find settings panel "unity-appearance"
[13:31] <flintser> craigbass1976: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[13:31] <StaRetji> ikonia: I can't, it is sold like that
[13:31] <flintser> craigbass1976: sorry that is what not you wanted...
[13:31] <ikonia> StaRetji: sounds a bad sale then
[13:31] <StaRetji> TakeItEZ: thx dude
[13:31] <StaRetji> ikonia: yep
[13:31] <StaRetji> lol
[13:31] <TakeItEZ> craigbass1976: /etc/php5/*
[13:32] <phschwartz> How can I install the 32bit and 64bit version of a library on a 64bit install instead of just the 64bit library?
[13:32] <flintser> DTH0_: have you changed icon theme?
[13:33] <Eagleman> If i have 1 CPU with 4 cores, and 4 Guest OS's on my KVM Hypervisor, can i give those 4 Guest OS's all 4 CPU Cores ( 16 in Total ) and will they still work? How do thet share resources when they are all on 100% Load?
[13:33] <phschwartz> ie, I want to cross compile for 32 and 64 bit on the same system, but only have 64bit expat and need the 32bit also
[13:33] <TakeItEZ> craigbass1976: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[13:33] <ikonia> patrycjusz: you don't want that, you want to build a toolchain to cross-compile, not link against system libraries
[13:33] <DTH0_> flintser, yes but i've done so since ages, never caused any trouble.
[13:33] <flintser> so the appearance just disappeared? was it during an upgrade? while changin theme?
[13:34] <DTH0_> I have no clue, but I don't remember changing themes while performing my last update.
[13:35] <sakkemo> Hi, I'd like to put my Downloads folder as well as latex output on tmpfs, and move the needed files to SSD/HDD only if needed. Any tips on good guides and/or warnings or experiences, or should I just trust Google?
[13:35] <ikonia> sakkemo: what are you unsure of ?
[13:35] <flintser> DTH0_: known bug is that while upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 this might happen, and some icon themes make that too happen. have you tried other icon themes and rebooting?
[13:36] <flintser> i mean restarting x
[13:37] <DTH0_> flintser, It wasn't an upgrade, just an update. And icon theme worked before update. I restarted after the update.
[13:38] <TakeItEZ> sakkemo: the unsecure factor of that is the user, missing to move some files before shutting down.
[13:38] <flintser> DTH0_: i'm confused... google doesnt help much either... if it is possible to re-install gnome-control-center it might help? someone more experienced might help you with that if it is doable
[13:38] <sakkemo> ikonia, TakeItEZ: rather, I'm asking if there's any drawbacks I should be aware of, besides the fact if I lose power I'd lose those files
[13:39] <DTH0_> the only thing I see on google is on ubuntu chinese forums.
[13:39] <DTH0_> I might have some trouble reading it...
[13:40] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I get Call to undefined function session_is_registered() in Fedora but not Ubuntu.
[13:41] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I thought it was something specific to my app, but I see now Googling that it's been deprecated...  Just not in Ubuntu yet probably.
[13:42] <ikonia> craigbass1976: oh so your problem is on the Fedora machine, not the ubuntu machine
[13:42] <craigbass1976> ikonia, yes.  And I see now that Precise runs php5.3 while Fedora has the new 5.4, where session_is_registered is no more.  :( sniff sniff...
[13:43] <flintser> DTH0_: maybe sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-control-center or sudo apt-get purge gnome-control-center && sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center?
[13:43] <flintser> DTH0_: i must warn you that this might leave your system without it at all :/
[13:44] <DTH0_> flintser, already tried usual "reinstall, reconfigure" voodoo. Gods won't smile on me...
[13:44] <flintser> DTH0_: purge? purge is different than remove
[13:46] <DTH0_> flintser, ok. Might try that.
[13:47] <flintser> privmsg me if you want, i'll go now but my server runs 24/7 so i wont miss anything if you msg me later
[13:49] <Eagleman> If i have 1 CPU with 4 cores, and 4 Guest OS's on my KVM Hypervisor, can i give those 4 Guest OS's all 4 CPU Cores ( 16 in Total ) and will they still work? How do thet share resources when they are all on 100% Load?
[13:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: it doesn't work like that
[13:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: think of it as %per core
[13:52] <ejv> the linux kernel is quite smart, it does inter-core load balancing; the source code is of course available, to see how it's implemented.
[13:52] <Eagleman> ikonia, i still dont understand
[13:53] <ikonia> Eagleman: think of your cpu as %100 and each core a % of it when you assign 2 core you are assigning % x 2 after hypervisor overhead, not 1 core = 1 core virtua/physical mapping
[13:53] <ikonia> Eagleman: so think of each core as % rather than a core
[13:54] <mjolk_> Hi, can anyone help me out with the following problem: i changed my user id and now when logging in i get the message "could not update ICEauthority file" and cannot log in. I tried to restore access rights to that file for my new user id, but i cant access the file since its in an encrypted homedir.
[13:54] <AtuM> Is there any progress on "start-stop-daemon" bug which gives "this system is not able to track process names longer than 15 characters" on long process names?
[13:54] <AtuM> I'm using 12.04 server
[13:55] <ejv> AtuM: check launchpad? :)
[13:55] <guest-Eemcou_> hey
[13:55] <guest-Eemcou_> hey
[13:55] <cfhowlett> guest-Eemcou, greetings
[13:56] <AtuM> ejv, can't seem to find anything like it.. debian has some bug open.. but its for another package..
[13:56] <AtuM> the root cause is the same: start-stop-daemon
[13:56] <ejv> AtuM: open one yourself :)
[13:57] <R3TR0> hello
[13:57] <AtuM> ejv.. will do
[13:58] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, greetings
[13:58] <R3TR0> ty ^^
[13:59]  * canihojr hi
[13:59] <Eagleman> ikonia, so when assigning 2 cores to my Guest OS, i am assigning 50% of the total cpu power?
[14:00] <Eagleman> in my case
[14:00] <GeorgeJ_> Hello folks
[14:00] <R3TR0> hi
[14:00] <GeorgeJ_> What's the channel for 13.04? #ubuntu-latest?
[14:00] <ikonia> Eagleman: not %50, whatever the %per core works out at
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1
[14:00] <ikonia> Eagleman: it's not a 1 - 1 mapping
[14:00] <GeorgeJ_> cfhowlett: Thank you
[14:01] <cfhowlett> GeorgeJ_, no worries
[14:01] <usr13> mjolk_: Ctrl-Alt-F6 and login to tty6.  Check the ownership of .ICEauthority  If it is not owned by you, chown it
[14:02] <R3TR0> i can ask my question about ubuntu 12.04 in this channel, right?
[14:02] <usr13> mjolk_: ls -l .ICEauthority   #See what it says.  chown mjolk .ICEauthority  #To fix it.
[14:02] <ikonia> R3TR0: sure
[14:02] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, of course.
[14:02] <R3TR0> ok, this problem occurs kinda often
[14:02] <R3TR0> so lets start
[14:03] <R3TR0> ive installed ubuntu with the wubi installer, because i would like to use ubuntu to work and windows to play
[14:03] <R3TR0> so i did
[14:03] <usr13> mjolk_: Alt-Right-Arrow to go back to login screen, (tty7)
[14:03] <R3TR0> ive installed drivers and updates and all that kind of stuff
[14:03] <R3TR0> and after i went to bed, started my computer the other day and choose ubuntu
[14:03] <R3TR0> there is that "loading" screen with ubuntu in the middle and 5 orange dots below it
[14:04] <R3TR0> then i cant do anything except do a reboot with something like alt + strg + del
[14:04] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, ubuntu for work?  y u no install ubuntu as the main OS and virtualbox for windows?
[14:05] <R3TR0> im a student but if i would do something like search in the internet
[14:05] <R3TR0> its quite useful to have these multiple desktops
[14:05] <geektech> you can download Wine or PlayonLinux
[14:05] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, windows 8?
[14:05] <R3TR0> no, windows 7
[14:05] <R3TR0> the thing is, i dont want to have ubuntu as my main os because i dont got something like an installation cd for windows
[14:06] <R3TR0> if i would mess something up, windows was already installed on my pc
[14:06] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, ok, long story short: wubi (windows installer) is for TESTING ubuntu.  NOT  long term installation.  All the things that can break a windows installation are doubly likely to break your wubi ... fragmentation, all that stuff.
[14:07] <R3TR0> ahh didnt knew that
[14:07] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, rather than wubi, install virtualbox in windows and put ubuntu inside the virtualbox is my 2 cents advice.
[14:07] <R3TR0> i thought its just an installer to install it alongside windows
[14:07] <R3TR0> ok, i will try that
[14:07] <R3TR0> thanks for the advice
[14:07] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, common misconception, but not true.
[14:07] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, best of luck
[14:07] <usr13> R3TR0: ... an unfortunate shortcoming (of Win7).  But you are definately upside down.  The best situation is to have Win7 as guest.
[14:07] <R3TR0> yeah, if i fail i will come back i guess
[14:08] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, and get a ... legal win7 disk.  just for fun.
[14:08] <R3TR0> i didnt have windows 7 illegal
[14:08] <R3TR0> *dont
[14:08] <R3TR0> if you think that
[14:08] <usr13> R3TR0: But the good news is that most accomplish a dual boot install with no problem.
[14:09] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, dual boot with win 7 is actually pretty easy.
[14:09] <R3TR0> dual boot?
[14:09] <R3TR0> im not really much into that kind of stuff sadly
[14:09] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, install "along side" ubuntu ...
[14:09] <usr13> !dualboot | R3TR0
[14:09] <R3TR0> ahh amd thx
[14:09] <R3TR0> how do you know that?
[14:10] <mjolk_> usr13: thanks, ill try
[14:10] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, know what?
[14:10] <usr13> mjolk_: Ok, let us know if you have any other problems/questions.
[14:10] <R3TR0> the dual boot instructions, there was a link only for x84/amd and macs, so im curious why there was no nvidia
[14:11] <usr13> R3TR0: We don't know, we just regurgitate ;0
[14:11] <mbeierl_> usr13, if it's not win7 pro, you cannot run it as a guest.  it will complain about not being licensed.
[14:11] <cfhowlett> R3TR0, nvidia is not a computer manufacturer
[14:11] <R3TR0> ahh
[14:11] <usr13> mbeierl_: Thanks for the info/correction.
[14:12] <megamonk> hi, anyone here good with installing R (Rscript)? need help T_T
[14:12] <R3TR0> lets get a windows recovery
[14:12] <rewarp> megamonk: As in R stats?
[14:13] <mbeierl> usr13, Very frustrating for me.  I am stuck with dual boot on my laptop as a result.  Just wanted to save some heartache for others down the road
[14:13] <mjolk_> usr13: hmm first problem: ctrl alt f6 not working :)
[14:13] <megamonk> R.. as in this R -> http://cran.r-project.org/
[14:13] <usr13> mjolk_: Hold Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting  F6 key
[14:13] <rewarp> megamonk: Yes. That's the one. You can find it in the software centre.
[14:14] <oneliner> hello there i need to run an sql import that will potentially take several hours while unatended, i need to make sure the box aint gonna try and do something silly like energy saving suyspend of something like that, where should i check to make sure?
[14:14] <aFeijo> hi folks, I used the browser to access my windows server share, I see the files, now I need to use scp command to send those files to my ESXi server. In my shell where can I access that mounted windows share?
[14:14] <usr13> mjolk_: Alt-RightArrow to come back to GUI
[14:14] <mjolk_> usr13: yeah i know, i have done ctrl+alt+backspace before
[14:14] <usr13> mjolk_: Are you at the standard login screen?
[14:15] <megamonk> yeah... i have a wierd situation with it... cant get it to work... can we have a private chat so i can tell you the details?
[14:15] <jrib> aFeijo: try ~/.gvfs
[14:15] <rewarp> megamonk. Sure. I have R running.
[14:15] <megamonk> btw, how do you make a private chat here?
[14:15] <aFeijo> jrib, that folder is emtpy
[14:15] <Touhou11> megamonk: Ask someone their a/s/l and take it from there
[14:15] <cfhowlett> megamonk, with permission
[14:15] <jrib> aFeijo: what do you mean by "I used the browser to access my windows server share"?
[14:16] <aFeijo> jrib, yes, I click the Network, found the machine, the share and the folder :)
[14:16] <jrib> aFeijo: in nautilus?
[14:16] <usr13> mjolk_: If not; Can you describe what is on the screen? What kind of computer is it?
[14:16] <aFeijo> jrib, yes
[14:16] <R3TR0> if i may mess the dual boot, could it have an effect on the hard drive
[14:17] <jrib> aFeijo: it should be there as far as I know.  If you want you can mount it manually to a place of your choosing (see ubottu)
[14:17] <jrib> !samba | aFeijo
[14:17] <aFeijo> ok thanks
[14:17] <Arty_> ASILE
[14:17] <usr13> R3TR0: Yes, you will have an effect on the HD, (there will be extra partitions).
[14:18] <R3TR0> for the other operating system i guess
[14:18] <usr13> R3TR0: correct
[14:18] <R3TR0> ahh, k then i now what i should do soon, delete some crap from my hd
[14:18] <iP4dd4t0> Hi
[14:19] <R3TR0> Hello
[14:19] <usr13> R3TR0: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows
[14:19] <mjolk_> usr13: found it, i had to combine it with fn key on my stupid macbook
[14:19] <R3TR0> yeah im already on that side, at the moment im working on the windows recovery cd
[14:19] <R3TR0> *site
[14:19] <mjolk_> usr13: but i couldnt get back to graphical mode so had to reboot
[14:19] <iP4dd4t0> Lool
[14:20] <mjolk_> anyway, its the same problem i had before: this iceauthority file is in my encrypted homedir so i cant access it
[14:20] <tdn> Ubuntu has /bin/sh as a symlink to /bin/dash. I have some legacy apps that require /bin/sh to behave like bash. Can I make Ubuntu have /bin/sh as /bin/bash? Do I break Ubuntu if I just do: rm -vf /bin/sh ; ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh ?
[14:20] <mjolk_> normally you should be able to mount this dir using ecryptfs-mount-private
[14:20] <usr13> R3TR0: Yes. In preparation, you should backup important data, do a cleanup, (delete stuff you don't need), defrag, scandisk, (normal MS Windows Maintenance stuff).
[14:20] <Arty_> y'a eu qqc de nouveau?
[14:20] <mjolk_> but this gives an error message that is not set up correctly
[14:20] <jrib> tdn: you should fix the legacy apps since they are broken.  Make the shebang line actually specify bash.  If you can't for some reason, you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash"
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !fr | Arty_
[14:21] <R3TR0> sounds like a lot to do
[14:21] <Delux> any idea why sda2, which shows as part of a RAID in both mdadm --detail and /proc/mdstat but when listing with fdisk -l it does not show up and only shows sda1 ?
[14:21] <usr13> R3TR0: The good news is that you won't have to do that MS maintenance stuff much any more, (because Win7 won't be used much anymore).
[14:21] <tdn> jrib, sure, I would like to fix the legacy apps, but they are proprietary and thus non trivial to fix.
[14:21] <R3TR0> wait, ubuntu is going to be my primary os?
[14:22] <geektech> dell sells ubuntu laptops
[14:22] <escott> tdn, you should fix the legacy apps to use /bin/bash instead. its a one line change
[14:22] <BluesKaj> usr13, wanna bet :) ppl are dumping W8 in droves or avoiding it , whatever their stae of computing
[14:23] <usr13> R3TR0: Linux maintenance is automatic, (that stuff is not a part of what we have to do).  Linux does not fragment, filesystem checks are done periodically/automatically, no virus problems etc...
[14:24] <BluesKaj> had 2 ppl ask about installing w7 on their W8  laptops
[14:24] <escott> Delux, because you shouldn't be using fdisk
[14:24] <usr13> BluesKaj: What?  (sorry, not understanding exactly what you're saying)...
[14:24] <usr13> BluesKaj: See my PM
[14:25] <usr13> BluesKaj: Could you elaborate just a bit?  (via PM)
[14:26] <BluesKaj> usr13, already did in the pm
[14:26] <tdn> escott, sure, I would like to fix the legacy apps, but they are proprietary and thus non trivial to fix.
[14:27] <escott> tdn, except they are shell scripts so you can edit them.
[14:28] <tdn> escott, nope, embedded in binaries. As I said: non-trivial.
[14:29] <escott> tdn, well you probably won't break init by changing the boot shell to bash. but it will be slower
[14:29] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use a xbox 360 controller with linux gaming? i can't get Team Fortress 2 to work. i have tried both xpad and xboxdrv
[14:29] <R3TR0_> i would like to get linux working XD
[14:29] <tdn> escott, sure, slower is acceptable.
[14:30] <usr13> R323T: I don't know if it your system is UEFI or not but, just in case, you might want to be aware.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[14:30] <MadEchidna> hey is anyone else getting some weird lag when playing flash content?
[14:30] <R3TR0_> yeah im preparing to try a dual boot
[14:30] <R3TR0_> but im quite unexperienced
[14:30] <R3TR0_> or lets say absolutly unexperienced
[14:30] <MadEchidna> it's never been an issue for me before on this system but yesterday and today when I have flash going in the background, when I move the mouse around the sound skips
[14:31] <MadEchidna> it's not happening just this moment but it is happening on and off
[14:32] <usr13> R323T: We have all started from that ponit.
[14:32] <R3TR0_> its R3TR0 :P or just retro
[14:32] <R3TR0_> not r323t, that pronouncing is new
[14:34] <R3TR0_> lol, im just noticing now, why isnt your name green anymore usr13
[14:34] <R3TR0_> first time hexchat, dont know anything about it x)
[14:35] <wolftune> quick question: I compiled something myself that wasn't in the repos, but now it is. How can I remove my compiled version and use the repo version?
[14:35] <usr13> R323T: This is a Large Channel, (over 1700 nicks), it is a good idea to identify the person you are talking to with their exact nick at the beginning (or somplace in) your comment.  (That way, we know to whom your comments are being directed.)
[14:36] <R3TR0_> ahh ok
[14:36] <Touhou11> wolftune: Did you use a "make install" command? If so, sometimes there's a "make uninstall" if the author is thoughtful
[14:36] <R3TR0_> well i think i will just continue deleting some useless stuff
[14:36] <wolftune> Touhou11: oh hmm, I guess I can check
[14:37] <usr13> R323T:  ... just makes it easier to pick out who your talking to in the sea of comments flying by.
[14:37] <R3TR0_> ^^ i guess
[14:37] <usr13> R323T: Good luck.  Let us know if you have any further questions.
[14:37] <guest472> hey
[14:37] <usr13> R3TR0_:  Sorry, wrong nick
[14:37] <R3TR0_> hello
[14:38] <R3TR0_> dont worry
[14:38] <usr13> R3TR0_: Using auto-complete and wasn't paying much attention.
[14:38] <R3TR0_> yeah dont worry
[14:38] <R3TR0_> i think ill take it easy with that dual boot stuff
[14:38] <tdn> How do I system-wide change the default editor from nano to vim?
[14:39] <wolftune> ok, the dev did not include an uninstall, so that's not an option
[14:39] <usr13> R3TR0_: Ok. But my advise is to just jump in with both feet. (In the end, you'll be glad you did.)  "No guts, no glory"  ;0
[14:39] <wolftune> so I don't know how else to remove the thing to install the repo version now
[14:39] <R3TR0_> yeah ill
[14:39] <R3TR0_> when i have more time
[14:41] <usr13> R3TR0_: Yes, by all means, set asside some time.  Not only is there the install process, you'll want to do a lot of post-install work to get your system customized the way you want it. (And it's hard to stop once you get into it.)
[14:41] <usr13> R3TR0_: The install process will take 1&1/2 to 2 hrs but double that.
[14:42] <R3TR0_> hmm
[14:42] <R3TR0_> well i guess its worth it
[14:43] <usr13> R3TR0_: Oh it is.  It will not consume all your time during that period.  Once the install is underway, you can leave it for a while, (probably 45min to an hour, depending on how fast your PC and Media Device are, and internet, etc...).
[14:43] <R3TR0_> so what is the result?
[14:43] <d70> hi, i want to install xfce along with gnome, im using ubuntu 12.04, anyone has done that? can help me?
[14:43] <R3TR0_> having 2 operation systems
[14:44] <DJones> !xfce | d70
[14:44] <usr13> R3TR0_: Exactly.  It is like haveing two computers in one box.
[14:44] <cfhowlett> d70, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:44] <falematte> Hey all! I am having problem with google-chrome on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS. When i browse the web sometimes some advertisements' pages open automatically. It didn't appen before. I think is a kind of virus. Anyone knows what to do?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> falematte, not a virus...more likely a setting
[14:44] <R3TR0_> and how will i switch between them? like in the wubi installer at the start of the pc?
[14:45] <TakeItEZ> falematte: you want to install ad-block add-on
[14:45] <usr13> R3TR0_: But what you'll find is that you will come to use one somewhat more than the other.  (I'll leave you to guess which.)
[14:45] <falematte> cfhowlett, openadvertising is the name of the advertisment program i got i think
[14:45] <[LgO]Aionicus> tbh falematte : www.google.co.uk -> type in : chrome ad block plus , and chrome popup blocker
[14:45] <usr13> R3TR0_: The boot screen will give options.
[14:45] <cfhowlett> falematte, use incognito mode in chrome, delete history and cookies.
[14:45] <blow> "Tick, tock, tablet time!" ???
[14:45] <R3TR0_> ubuntu? :P
[14:45] <falematte> [LgO]Aionicus, I already have the pop up blocker turned on
[14:45] <savagecroc> rsync -az --progress -e ssh website:/storage/masters /storage/masters << this command is not syncing everything .. any idea why?
[14:45] <[LgO]Aionicus> install those 2 and you should be fine , thou best bet would be to go back to firefox , chrome never was safe in my eyes , (google is always watching ^^)
[14:45] <falematte> cfhowlett, gonna try
[14:45] <DJones> !tablet | blow
[14:46] <blow> right
[14:46] <usr13> R3TR0_: After post, you'll see a boot screen with options to boot into Win7 or Ubuntu.  You'll be allowed ample time to chose.
[14:46] <escott> savagecroc, what is it syncing
[14:46] <R3TR0_> well, im playing a lot so ubuntu not for now, maybe if there will be more titles that will come for steam
[14:46] <savagecroc> escott: i think it must be missing hidden files or something
[14:46] <R3TR0_> or better said titles that im playing
[14:46] <savagecroc> escott: basically i'm syncing a git repo
[14:47] <savagecroc> or a ton of git --bare repos to be precise
[14:47] <savagecroc> ohhhh maybe it's not copying symlinks
[14:47] <falematte> cfhowlett, I just did it- Iìll let you know in 5 min :D
[14:47] <DasJunge> So I have recently been trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 via USB and each time I do it I get a message saying its missing some file "vmlinuz" something like that. From what I can tell this is a result of a bad ISO. Well I have dowloaded ubuntu numerous times of the official site and each time I do it always does not match the MDSUM(i think thats the name)
[14:47] <DasJunge> what am I doing wrong?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> DasJunge, you're downloading.  use the torrents instead.  better error correction
[14:48] <[LgO]Aionicus> dasjunge your bootloader seems off
[14:48] <[LgO]Aionicus> what did you use to put it on the disk ?
[14:48] <DJones> DasJunge: How are you downloading? direct from the website or via torrent, I'd suggest trying the torrent download
[14:48] <DasJunge> I have been using the website but ill try the torrent
[14:48] <[LgO]Aionicus> if your from windows -> www.google.co.uk -> type in yumi installer and get that one , select your iso and hit ok , then it should work
[14:49] <d70> cfhowlett, , DJones , thx!
[14:49] <geryon6> When I'm looking at a Launchpad bug marked “Fix Released” (e. g. LP #964897), how do I know which version actually fixes the bug?
[14:49] <savagecroc> escott: crap -A includes the symlink option
[14:49] <cfhowlett> d70, no problem
[14:49] <DasJunge> I have been using unetbootin
[14:49] <DasJunge> Is that one bad?
[14:49] <savagecroc> rsycn --make-it-exactly-the-bloody-same /source /destination
[14:49] <TakeItEZ> savagecroc: it should, rsync -a includes -l (--links)
[14:49] <[LgO]Aionicus> unetbootin should work , but ive seen it act spliffy from time to time
[14:49] <DasJunge> alrighty
[14:49] <[LgO]Aionicus> i know from personal experience the yumi works great (and can also download the iso for you)
[14:49] <cfhowlett> DasJunge, no.  it's fine, but a fragged ISO is a fragged ISO. Garbage in, garbage out
[14:49] <DasJunge> Ill try the torrent but it's really slow!
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> dont
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> what file you want to download das ?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> DasJunge, slow but clean data ...
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> what version ?
[14:50] <DasJunge> 12.04
[14:50] <DasJunge> ubuntu
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> ok
[14:50] <savagecroc> TakeItEz: i can't work out why when i run git rev-parse master on one it's different than the other.. the only explination i can think of is that the files are different and rsync is missing them
[14:50] <TakeItEZ> savagecroc: or do you have hardlinks? -H then
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> 64 bit or 32 bit?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> DasJunge, 12.4.2 is the current version ...
[14:50] <DasJunge> 64
[14:50] <DasJunge> 12.4.2 i meant
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> and what country you from junge?
[14:50] <[LgO]Aionicus> .de ?
[14:50] <R3TR0_> yep
[14:50] <DasJunge> yes
[14:50] <R3TR0_> germany
[14:51] <savagecroc> TakeItEZ: ahh no
[14:51] <savagecroc> maybe i need that :)
[14:51] <R3TR0_> but in the grammar part his name is wrong, it should be DerJunge
[14:51] <savagecroc> what's a hard link?
[14:51] <falematte> cfhowlett, Fot the moment everything seems ok. Can u explain me what was happening? Thx alot
[14:51]  * savagecroc googling
[14:51] <DasJunge> I know, im just a guest in this country ): I try
[14:51] <[LgO]Aionicus> try using this link
[14:51] <R3TR0_> dont worry
[14:51] <[LgO]Aionicus> http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/12.04/
[14:51] <DasJunge> alrighty
[14:51] <cfhowlett> falematte, I suspect you're chrome settings allowed pop-ups, etc.  I don't know the defaults.  Personally, I use incognito all the time ...
[14:51] <[LgO]Aionicus> its from a gbit host in ireland
[14:51] <DasJunge> thanks aionicus
[14:51] <R3TR0_> thats not a big failure, some people are worse
[14:51] <[LgO]Aionicus> should have decent routing to .de
[14:52] <R3TR0_> and they are from germany, i am german and i know what im talking about ^^
[14:52] <DasJunge> R3tro
[14:52] <DasJunge> are you familiar with cito the rapper?
[14:52] <DasJunge> or it could be sito
[14:52] <usr13> R3TR0_: I may be over-stating the time it will take, (but would rather over-estimate than under-estimate).
[14:53] <R3TR0_> its Sido
[14:53] <R3TR0_> and yeah, but im not fan of german music
[14:53] <DasJunge> Why is it that in his songs he uses DIE strassen junge when he is referring to a male
[14:53] <dmku> cfhowlett: why use incognito?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> just the slightest bit off-topic ... #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:53] <R3TR0_> DIE is used for plural
[14:54] <DasJunge> But it is only one guy, himself
[14:54] <DasJunge> and sorry
[14:54] <cfhowlett> dmku, harder for tracking to find you by your internet footprint
[14:54] <savagecroc> I met the best german ever last week
[14:54] <R3TR0_> and its for Strassen, thats in english roads
[14:54] <DasJunge> it was just bugging me
[14:54] <guest552> hey
[14:54] <cfhowlett> NOT impossible, but harder
[14:54] <R3TR0_> yeah, german is a complicated language
[14:54] <DasJunge> The artikels really get me
[14:54] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:54] <R3TR0_> well, SIDO means Super Intelligentes Drogen Opfer, in English thats Super intellegent drug victim
[14:54] <savagecroc> he passionately talked about v2 rockets for 20 mins :)
[14:54] <R3TR0_> oh ok sorry
[14:54] <DasJunge> haha thanks, sorry for offtopic
[14:55] <R3TR0_> usr13: yes, better overestimate than underestimate
[14:55] <blow> !guidelines
[14:55] <usr13> DasJunge: R3TR0_ When we wander off-toppic, it is best to go to channel #ubuntu-offtopic, (or some other one), because this channel is very busy with Ubuntu support.
[14:56] <R3TR0_> yeah, ubottu was friendly and told us that
[14:56] <R3TR0_> wont happen again
[14:56] <guest301> hey im back
[14:56] <DasJunge> So torrents are usually a more reliable download for the ISO than the ones from the site?
[14:56] <guest301> what r u doing guys
[14:57] <cfhowlett> DasJunge, generally, yes. error checking is more robust
[14:57] <DJones> !ubuntu | guest301
[14:57] <DJones> guest301: This is the support channel for Ubuntu
[14:58] <DasJunge> ubottu, what irc client do you use, or find best in ubuntu?
[14:58] <cfhowlett> DasJunge, xchat is very nice
[14:59] <mcmullins> ubottu, make me a sandwhich
[14:59] <savagecroc> i can not work this out
[14:59] <guest258> hey im back again
[14:59] <savagecroc> https://gist.github.com/freedomfreddy/249878afa81f07eab857
[14:59] <mcmullins> ubottu, sudo make me a sandwhich
[14:59] <DasJunge> Anyone had experience with irssi?
[14:59] <DasJunge> I heard it was good
[15:00] <DJones> DasJunge: Yes, it is very good, but terminal based
[15:00] <BluesKaj> irssi is fine if you like the commasnd line
[15:00] <dmku> DasJunge: as console client - yes
[15:00] <DasJunge> Cool thanks.
[15:00] <flintser> DasJunge: irssi is good, especially if ssh+screen
[15:00] <dmku> DasJunge:  and weechat is second (or first)
[15:00] <flintser> +irssi
[15:01] <dmku> But I really like to use Gajim with XMPP -> IRC transport
[15:01] <mcmullins> ahh! completely forgot about the tablet anouncement
[15:01] <mcmullins> super excited
[15:02] <mcmullins> hour left
[15:02] <geryon6> When I'm looking at a Launchpad bug marked “Fix Released” (e. g. LP #964897), how do I know which version actually fixes the bug?
[15:02] <shborn> ПРИВЕТ УПЫРИ
[15:02] <geryon6> Or should I rather ask in #ubuntu-devel?
[15:03] <DJones> !ru | shborn
[15:03] <bingowrt> hi guys
[15:03] <wN> bingowrt: hi
[15:03] <bingowrt> im waiting for ubuntu for phone
[15:03] <DasJunge> I think this will lift some if your guys' spirits. My school just bought 100s of new thinkpad T430s for our school, and it is said that they might have ubuntu installed for student use!
[15:04] <PiLp> Hello, how well does Ubuntu work with AMD GPU's? I've heard some bad things.
[15:04] <flintser> DasJunge: our school implemented edubuntu with lstp, it was good for the use
[15:04] <geryon6> !phone | bingowrt
[15:04] <pgomes> hi, why does Ubuntu changes my keyboard layout at every freaking sleep!!
[15:05] <flintser> i am first time building, how long it usually takes to build something? stepmania has been building for 5 mins now
[15:05] <kbrosnan> flintser: depends on the program and your computer's specs
[15:06] <DasJunge> YES! My ubuntu install was successful! The ISO i got from the torrent was good and everything works now!
[15:06] <bingowrt> what is that announce 53 mins later?
[15:06] <DasJunge> Feels great
[15:06] <shborn> hallo
[15:07] <canaima__> alguien habla español
[15:07] <Pici> !tablet | bingowrt
[15:07] <geryon6> !details | pgomes
[15:07] <Pici> !es | canaima__
[15:07] <usr13> flintser: Could take hours.  Just depends on what your building
[15:07] <gdanko> hello!
[15:07] <mcmullins> lol they already have a tablet irc?
[15:07] <SuperLag> What is the preferred way to install fonts in Ubuntu? I'm on 12.10
[15:07] <SuperLag> The font viewer is... let's just say... less than reliable.
[15:07] <Haris> Hello all
[15:07] <Haris> I need to build a kickstart file for a very basic install of ubunt 12.04.2 LTS
[15:08] <Haris> please point me in the right direction
[15:08] <gdanko> Man, I have a 12.10 base install. I manually intall xserver-xorg and xfce4. Today X crashed and dropped to a text screen. My password was in the middle of the screen in plain text. Grrrr.
[15:08] <flintser> kbrosnan: stepmania, and intel q9650 quad-core 3ghz
[15:08] <mcmullins> SuperLag, Font Viewer
[15:08] <DasJunge> Haris: you want to install Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:09] <Haris> yes
[15:09] <Haris> server-amd64
[15:09] <Haris> via the pxe
[15:09] <DasJunge> Do you have a USB or a blank CD?
[15:09] <SuperLag> mcmullins: see my comment re: Font Viewer. It's unstable and crashes on every attempt.
[15:09] <Haris> none of the both. the box is in a DC 10,000 miles away in another continent
[15:10] <guest989> hey
[15:10] <flintser> and where does the builded source go? it said copying binaries, but where :)
[15:10] <mcmullins> SuperLag, then something is wrong with your Font Viewer
[15:10] <Haris> I have a pxe active with 12.0.4.2 LTS imported via cobbler
[15:10] <shborn> чч
[15:10] <shborn> лдлдлдлдлд
[15:10] <shborn> олололол
[15:10] <FloodBot1> shborn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <Myrtti> shborn: stop it.
[15:11] <usr13> flintser: You'll see.
[15:11] <shborn> лохи
[15:11] <DasJunge> Haris: See server and Network installation, this should get you started.
[15:11] <DasJunge> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[15:11] <usr13> flintser: Basically in the same directory.
[15:11] <guest989> roses are red vilotes are blue i hope you dont smell like chicken poo
[15:11] <jrib> tdn: you can use update-alternatives
[15:11] <Fuzzles> if i install ubuntu 13.04 will i get the updates and when it comes out will it auto update to taht release
[15:11] <SuperLag> mcmullins: this is a stock install of 12.10, with all updates current
[15:11] <flintser> usr13: ok, thanks. i'll come back if i cant find them ;)
[15:11] <jrib> Fuzzles: yes, but please ask questions regarding 13.04 in #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <pgomes> geryon6: I have my laptop keyboard and a keyboard connected to my dock, so I don't want a fixed layout, I want to select one, and I want it to stay in that one until I change it again
[15:12] <usr13> flintser: What stage are you in now?
[15:12] <flintser> finished, usr13
[15:12] <mcmullins> SuperLag, what font are you trying to install?
[15:12] <usr13> flintser: Ok good.
[15:12] <guest989> who is going to join my chat room
[15:12] <SuperLag> mcmullins: Adobe Source Code Pro
[15:12] <Myrtti> guest989: do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[15:13] <guest989> who ever wants to say i
[15:13] <pgomes> geryon6: but every time I change it, if I do a sleep or lock my pc, the entry goes back to the first entry in the list
[15:13] <Myrtti> guest989: you'll be put in the dog house if you don't stop the non-support chat.
[15:13] <mcmullins> what does details say about the crash report?
[15:14] <savagecroc> In ubuntu-ru they ask you the questions
[15:15] <megamonk> anyone here have experience in jedox or palo?
[15:18] <tdn> jrib, thanks.
[15:18] <tdn> jrib, I noticed that this seems to be overwritten by the $EDITOR variable in my shell.
[15:19] <wdnz> omg, a countdown
[15:19] <Haris> from ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Advanced:_Hands-Off.2C_Preseeded_Network_Server_Install ) is this ( preseed/url=http://192.168.1.7/preseed-feisty.cfg ) the kickstart file mentioned under point #5 ?
[15:19] <helmut_> hi
[15:19] <wdnz> tablets?
[15:20] <DJones> !tablet | wdnz
[15:20] <guest57894> Hi. how does one make ls list the total file size output? Say, in a directory, you have 5 files where each is 200k. ? ls -lrt will only show each ofhte 5 files at 200k... but it will not report 1,000 k
[15:20] <wdnz> Oh right.
[15:20] <Haris> or is this ( url=http://server/u710a/preseed/web-server.preseed ) it ?
[15:20] <jrib> tdn: that's one way a user may change their preference, yes :)
[15:20] <Haris> does ubuntu or debian name kickstart as preseed ?
[15:21] <tdn> jrib, ok.
[15:21] <Crystufer> Hello. New user here. Just updated my graphics driver and it lost my display settings. Any way to get them back?
[15:21] <dmku> guest57894:  du -h
[15:22] <DasJunge> Haris: I'm not sure sorry haris, maybe you should ask #ubuntu-server
[15:23] <DasJunge> They could probably help you more there
[15:24] <guest57894> dmku: i know, but it does not report the total. question was how to make it do so?
[15:24] <guest57894> dmku: that just shows the file size of each.
[15:25] <Crystufer> Ick. Empathy is terrible for irc. brb.
[15:25] <TakeItEZ>  ls -lh path/ | awk '{ SUM +=$5} END {print SUM }'
[15:25] <TakeItEZ> guest57894: ^
[15:25] <deuterium> re all. ubuntu stops booting after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done.". any idea?
[15:25] <geryon6> guest57894:  du -hs
[15:26] <Malsasa> Hello, how if I wanna give GPL license in my DEB package? What should I write in copyright file? Any example?
[15:26] <dmku> guest57894: sorry, try: du -hc
[15:26] <escott> dmku, you would also have to specify --depth=1
[15:26] <flintser> for the building, another question: is it ok to copy the created binaries to /usr/share/stepmania, then create "stepmania" with "#!/bin/bash /usr/share/stepmania/stepmania" in /usr/bin, then chmod +x that file
[15:27] <guest57894> dmku: yep, that does it! thanks!
[15:27] <Fuzzles> on the ubuntu website whats the tick tock all about
[15:27] <crystufer_> K. That's better.
[15:27] <escott> flintser, did you ./configure=/usr/share/stepmania?
[15:27] <escott> flintser, did you ./configure --prefix=/usr/share/stepmania?
[15:27] <DJones> !tabley | Fuzzles
[15:28] <DJones> !tablet | Fuzzles
[15:28] <flintser> escott: it was automated script and it came with the source, "./utils/build.sh" and it created the binaries in the root folder of the soruce...
[15:28] <dmku> escott it's not obligatory, for ex: du -hc *.png. But yes, when there is dirs in targets.
[15:29] <flintser> root of the source was /home/flintser/stepmania
[15:30] <flintser> i want to make stepmania "global" so that usr can launch it with stepmania from terminal, or create stepmania.desktop
[15:30] <crystufer_> Okay. So the answer may have been given before. But I was drowning in join/part messages. How can I fix my displays after a driver update?
[15:30] <sifu_work> hello folks..i tried removing my old php5.3 installation to install the php5.4 but i am getting some unmet dependencies error...
[15:30] <sifu_work> http://pastebin.com/AMDGisKi
[15:30] <sifu_work> thats the list of errors...tried everything i know but nothing is working
[15:31] <escott> dmku, sure but thats not what you are advising him to do :)
[15:31] <Reezz> Hey guys, anyone that might help me solve a package problem? (autoconf errors at an AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE macro..) I do have all the packages needed it seems (m4, libtool, autoconf, automake) but it won't budge.
[15:31] <escott> flintser, usually those can't be moved
[15:31] <ninjak> Hi. I'm trying to change overlay scrollbars with old one and I'm using this command: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[15:32] <ninjak> but the system tell that com.canonical.desktop.interface doesn't exists
[15:32] <ninjak> someone have tried it before?
[15:32] <flintser> escott: well, i'll try and see what happens.
[15:34] <dmku> escott  "du" has many other options) And the question was only about total size.
[15:37] <Stranger> I installed wubi a few days ago. Then I decided to reformat my hard drive that wubi was installed on. After reformatting wubi was not removed. And it still gives me the boot option, despite ubuntu not actually starting. Obviously I don't have the uninstall option in the control panel for it.
[15:37] <jrib> Stranger: what do you want to do now?  Install ubuntu to its own partition?  Or get rid of ubuntu completely?
[15:37] <Stranger> I want to remove and reinstall it
[15:38] <jrib> Stranger: you want to use wubi again?
[15:38] <escott> Stranger, what did you do to the NTFS partition?
[15:38] <Stranger> Yes, but 32bit
[15:38] <jrib> Stranger: you should be able to just install wubi again
[15:38] <Stranger> I attempted to, and nothing changed.
[15:38] <Stranger> escott You mean the old windows files?
[15:39] <Stranger> I still have them
[15:39] <flintser> escott: i copied the whole directory (with binaires and source in it) to /usr/share/stepmania/ and created stepmania and launch script with nano in /usr/bin and gave executable bit. it worked, at least so it seems. i can now launch stepmania from terminal with "stepmania"
[15:39] <crystufer> Okay. So I lost my dual monitor setup in a display driver update. Detect Displays on the display setup doesn't work. I think I have to do this manually. anyone got a link?
[15:40] <flintser> stepmania launch script*
[15:41] <escott> Stranger, ok. so in what sense did you reformat the hard drive
[15:42] <escott> Stranger, b/c if windows still exists it sounds like you did NOT reformat the hard drive.
[15:42] <Stranger> I chose the custom installation which put all of my old files into a single folder.
[15:43] <Reezz> escott, if he had dual boot on separate drives, he could format 1 drive and still boot using the startup from windows which has the dual boot config in it
[15:44] <escott> Stranger, so you installed a real ubuntu alongside the windows that previously existed and which contained WUBI
[15:44] <crystufer> xorg.conf is empty. Help plx.
[15:45] <Stranger> I installed wubi right. Then I reinstalled windows without uninstalling wubi.
[15:45] <Stranger> I still get the duel boot option, just I can't actually use the ubunti install.
[15:45] <captine> really excited fr this announcement
[15:45] <escott> Stranger, and i'm back to not understanding what you did
[15:46] <Dalton_> Hey all
[15:46] <Stranger> I reinstalled windows 7 with wubi installed. But it still gives me ubuntu option, except when I choose it ubuntu throws errors.
[15:46] <holstein> Stranger: i would recover the bootloader for windows
[15:46] <Kralle> Anyone can help with ubuntu desktop?
[15:47] <Reezz> Stranger, so you had windows and wubi installed on the SAME drive?
[15:47] <Kralle> When i boot from it
[15:47] <Kralle> It say failed to idle channel 2 and 3.
[15:47] <Stranger> Reezz Correct
[15:47] <Kralle> What can i do to fix that problem?
[15:47] <holstein> Stranger: sounds to me like, windows had an entry for ubuntu and windows, and the ubuntu one is still there, though you removed the target
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> Stranger: It would be useful to know what the errors are.
[15:47] <Stranger> I could load irc on my laptop and try to boot from my desktop
[15:47] <holstein> Stranger: if you are going to install linux, just go on, since grub will blow out the arguably fautly windows one
[15:48] <thnee> why is pip so slow when searching and downloading packages compared to the pip on my debian install? is it configured to go to a different mirror or something?
[15:48] <Kralle> Anyone cna help +
[15:48] <Kralle> ?
[15:48] <Stranger> holstein I want windows and ubuntu on the same drive. Which is why I chose wubi
[15:48] <holstein> Stranger: if the windows bootloader is booting windows and has an entry for ubuntu, which you removed manually, then it is doing what it is supposed to do.. you can either reinstall it, or edit it
[15:48] <escott> Kralle, can you provide the exact error message
[15:48] <Stranger> holstein I never removed it manually
[15:48] <Reezz> Stranger, install windows. Then install wubi. I'm running a similar setup
[15:48] <Stranger> I just reinstalled windows with wubi installed
[15:48] <holstein> Stranger: sure.. you wan want/have what you want.. im just expaining why you have an ubuntu entry
[15:49] <holstein> Stranger: you removed windows, correct?
[15:49] <holstein> Stranger: you reinstalled?
[15:49] <Stranger> I reinstalled windows with an iso while it was running
[15:49] <Stranger> So yes?
[15:49] <Kralle> escott yes i can. one second
[15:49] <holstein> Stranger: correct.. so, the old windows with the wubi ubuntu is *gone*
[15:50] <Stranger> Yes..
[15:50] <holstein> Stranger: you removed it.. and the entry is still theer, because you didnt uninstall it.. you just removed it, manually.. the entry points to a location you removed
[15:50] <holstein> Stranger: everything is working as it should
[15:50] <Stranger> Ok be right back
[15:50] <holstein> Stranger: if you want, you can manually "repair" the misconfigured windows bootloader.. or reinstall it..
[15:51] <Kralle> [time from startup] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Failed to idle channel 2
[15:51] <Kralle> escott [time from startup] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Failed to idle channel 2
[15:51] <Kralle> The error message
[15:52] <escott> Kralle, ok does the gui work?
[15:52] <Kralle> escott Nope.
[15:53] <escott> !nomodeset | Kralle
[15:53] <escott> Kralle, you could also try the proprietary drivers
[15:53] <Kralle> There is a error with the graphic on my screen yes
[15:53] <Kralle> So what i have to do?
[15:54] <oneliner> hello there i need to run an sql import that will potentially take several hours while unatended, i need to make sure the box aint gonna try and do something silly like energy saving suyspend of something like that, where should i check to make sure?
[15:54] <jhutchins_wk> Kralle: Do c:\ubuntu and c:\wubildir still exist?
[15:54] <Kralle> I dont know
[15:54] <Kralle> I cant see the interface.
[15:54] <SaltyFish> Has someone been complaining about salty fish recently?
[15:54] <jhutchins_wk> Kralle: Sorry, wrong nick.
[15:54] <blomkvist> SaltyFish: they don't contain enough salt
[15:55] <deuterium> my ubuntu stops booting after this http://pastebin.com/gG0y7K8C . this is the console output.. i don't have any logs as booting seems to stop before there's anything logged.
[15:55] <deuterium> i.e. after completing /scripts/init-bottom .. seems to be in the initrd
[15:56] <escott> deuterium, yes it is
[15:56] <deuterium> escott: any idea what might be the reason for this or how i can further narrow down the issue?
[15:56] <sharperguy> Can anyone think why dd seems to get logarithmically slower as it copies?
[15:56] <escott> deuterium, not really
[15:57] <deuterium> escott: oops.. it's my most important server :/
[15:58] <jpds> deuterium: Boot into recovery mode?
[15:58] <deuterium> jpds: good point.. any idea how to do this from grub?
[15:59] <crystufer> Okay. This display problem is seriously frustrating. I cannot set up my monitors correctly.
[15:59] <jpds> deuterium: Choose the recovery mode menu option? :)
[15:59] <deuterium> jpds: haven't noticed any.. but let me check, thanks so far
[15:59] <waspinator> 4
[15:59] <waspinator> 3
[15:59] <waspinator> 2
[15:59] <waspinator> 1
[16:00] <FloodBot1> waspinator: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <crystufer> Apparently when I updated my video driver, the computer lost all information concerning my video set up.
[16:00] <blow> and then it hangs
[16:01] <crystufer> And when I type xrandr -q it says that I only have one display and it's a laptop monitor.
[16:01] <z2s8> Ubuntu for tablets is out!
[16:01] <blow> hangs...
[16:01] <charis> 503 Service Unavailable
[16:01] <k1l> !tablet
[16:01] <pemibo> 503 Service Unavailable, seems like a lot of people reload the page ;)
[16:01] <mosimo> the day i leave my tablet at home too
[16:01] <ikonia> z2s8: where ?
[16:01] <ingo__> anyhthing happening for you guys on ubuntu.com?
[16:02] <ingo__> don't see anything yet
[16:02] <waspinator> HTCs site worked right away after the countdown. still can't access anything on ubuntu
[16:02] <ingo__> clock is still at 00:00 :)
[16:02] <ingo__> damn
[16:02] <z2s8> Ubuntu.com
[16:02] <ingo__> anything related to ubuntu for htc?
[16:02] <deuterium> jpds: i have the option to edit the commands before booting by hitting 'e' in grub (could also hit 'a' or 'c'). but there's no rescue mode
[16:02] <ikonia> z2s8: there is nothing on there
[16:02] <waspinator> nope
[16:02] <crystufer> So noone can help?
[16:02] <ingo__> hmm as expected...
[16:02] <holstein> crystufer: whats the issue?
[16:02] <jpds> deuterium: There should be a "Other options" menu item.
[16:02] <holstein> crystufer: i usually try arandr
[16:03] <dysoco> now everything crashed
[16:03] <crystufer> arandr -q?
[16:03] <holstein> crystufer: also, the graphics driver can be an issue
[16:03] <holstein> crystufer: arandr is a GUI
[16:03] <crystufer> Oh!
[16:03] <deuterium> jpds: there isn't any.. but maybe i can manually try using an older initrd
[16:03] <crystufer> So you think I might have success going back to my previous driver?
[16:03] <ingo__> lol i thought this channe would be vibrant with talk over the tablet announcement :D
[16:04] <ingo__> nobody cares :D
[16:04] <maxygas> hi i need some help please
[16:04] <dysoco> there we go
[16:04] <dysoco> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet
[16:04] <Pinkamena_D> hello, i have a multi boot system (ubuntu, backtrack, winxp) i needed to replace the motherboard because water was spilled on it, the linux installs obviously still work fine, the the windows one will not boot now, what would be the standard reinstall procedure so i don't ruin the grub or anything?
[16:04] <cataurius> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices
[16:04] <holstein> ingo__: try the offtopic channels
[16:04] <ingo__> finally
[16:04] <cataurius> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet
[16:04] <ingo__> can you recommend me a channel?
[16:04] <cataurius> ^^
[16:04] <crystufer> K. I'll try stuff again. :/
[16:04] <waspinator> soo slow
[16:04] <holstein> ingo__: this is official support. try the offtipc channel
[16:04] <ingo__> i'm sorry, will do
[16:04] <maxygas> i just installed my linux with  vmware and i want to set up my usb wireless device can somebody help me please?
[16:05] <z2s8> Ubuntu for tablets is out! Now really :)
[16:05] <ingo__> which channel is the OT channel?
[16:05] <ikonia> z2s8: please show me the link
[16:05] <ikonia> ingo__: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:05] <ptl> so
[16:05] <ptl> what is the tablet surprise?
[16:05] <ptl> can't load ubuntu page
[16:05] <eyedea> argh you beat me to it ikonia
[16:05] <uris> huh, server crashed?
[16:05] <dmonjo>  i am getting this error when trying to update the systme! GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2EBC26B60C5A2783 Medibuntu Packaging Team
[16:05] <eyedea> ptl: http://puu.sh/256WM
[16:06] <Myrtti> ptl: that the discussion about it isn't on this channel.
[16:06] <z2s8> Ikonia just Ubuntu.Com got uodated
[16:06] <maxygas> ??
[16:06] <Kroach> is it only me ot the countdown on ubuntu.com is at 0:00:00 and nothing happened?
[16:06] <Myrtti> !tablet
[16:06] <xente> how do you get schroot to unmount the filesystems in the chroot's?
[16:06] <ptl> will this interface be available for the nexus 7?
[16:06] <ikonia> z2s8: no, it's just a clock, there is nothing says it's out, or providing details. Please stop saying "it's out!!!" until there is something to actually see
[16:06] <ptl> ah
[16:06] <ptl> ok
[16:06] <ptl> sorry
[16:06] <ptl> going to ubuntu-tablet
[16:07] <Myrtti> thank you
[16:07] <z2s8> Ikonia just refresh your page
[16:07] <z2s8> It is out
[16:07] <ikonia> z2s8: have done multiple times
[16:07] <ikonia> z2s8: please take a screen shot and show me what you see
[16:07] <Myrtti> z2s8: please take it to #ubuntu-tablet or -discuss.
[16:08] <crystufer> holstein, You were right, the driver may in fact have been the problem. A rollback to the one I was using before fixed the issue.
[16:08] <NVMadmin_Mickey> could anyone like to explain why when I do an update for a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 desktop I lose both my eth0 and wlan drivers.
[16:08] <crystufer> holstein,  Thank you very much.
[16:09] <angs> I have a sd card that Gparted cannot create a partition table. how can I try to do it on the command line?
[16:09] <blow> come one guys.. why u lot so picky on not discussing the tablet release here, eveybody is excited about it, sending everybody to talk about it on other channel seems a bit odd. It is part of Ubuntu! come on, this is not about iThings.
[16:09] <z2s8> Here you go https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Ag4n1QnSbVOEZXaWh3QTN6T2M/edit
[16:09] <DJones> blow: Its not a support issue, this channel is only for support
[16:09] <Myrtti> blow: this is a support channel and has been for seven years.
[16:10] <blow> oh goodness... weird, very weird.... Then should channel shoudl be called #ubuntu-support
[16:10] <blow> everybody here is in the wrong place then...
[16:10] <k1l> !tablet | blow
[16:11] <Myrtti> blow: feel free to discuss the semantics at #ubuntu-ops
[16:11] <BluesKaj> blow, not "everybody" is excited , and take your excitement to proper chat
[16:12] <xente> how do you get schroot to unmount its file systems
[16:12] <xente> ?
[16:12] <flintser> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet
[16:12] <somnambulant> default action for a local-local rsync if file exists --> update if newer timestamp otherwise will not overwrite? Is this correct?
[16:17] <cigos> ciao
[16:24] <brontosaurusrex> trying to setup minidlna, looking at /etc/minidlna.conf, what exactly is notify_interval ?
[16:25] <linusoleander> I've problem with a cron job that can't find binary in /usr/local/bin, is this usual?
[16:26] <jrib> linusoleander: are you providing the full path?  PATH in your crontab is very limited by default
[16:26] <awktion> does it show up in 'which <binary>' no quotes no <>
[16:26] <TakeItEZ> linusoleander: call it with full path
[16:26] <awktion> owner@dw64:~$ which nano
[16:26] <awktion> /usr/bin/nano
[16:26] <awktion> ^--- like that?
[16:26] <sharperguy> Hi, I've used dd to write an iso image to a particular partition of an external drive, now how do i make sure the MBR points to that partition?
[16:26] <linusoleander> The thing is that the user can call the binary without the fullpath, but not through a cronjob
[16:26] <TakeItEZ> linusoleander: or define PATH var in crontab
[16:27] <TakeItEZ> linusoleander: users-crontab?
[16:27] <jrib> linusoleander: yes, that's normal since PATH is not the same in your crontab
[16:27] <linusoleander> jrib: Aha
[16:27] <escott> linusoleander, its a good idea to specify the fullpath in crontab
[16:27] <linusoleander> Is it "fixable"?
[16:28] <jrib> linusoleander: provide the full path or define PATH to whatever you want at the top of your crontab
[16:28] <linusoleander> All my problems would be solved it the users PATH variable was used
[16:29] <Noorideen> hello, i want to know what are the differences between mint and ubuntu? if possible
[16:30] <jackyboy633> @brontosaurusrex I reckon it is how often miniDLNA notifies DLNA-compatible devices of its presence
[16:31] <jackyboy633> @noorideen Well, mint uses a different desktop environment (cinnamon instead of unity)
[16:31] <brontosaurusrex> jackyboy633: yes, but if i set that to a very high number its still working fine, if  is is a small number, then my client looses connection every time a notify (whatever that is) is issued
[16:31] <chamunks> im not really sure what's broken here http://puu.sh/257uQ
[16:31] <brontosaurusrex> so, not sure how to "disable" this
[16:31] <angs> could any one suggest me a hex editor that I can install by apt-get?
[16:31] <brontosaurusrex> any clues?
[16:31] <chamunks> it seems to be wanting to downgrade my linux kernel image from what I can gather but im notreally sure why this is happening.
[16:32] <bd___> Hello. Which one is the best of 2 ubuntu versions available on the website? 12.04 or 12.10? Thanks
[16:32] <escott> linusoleander, and if your user changes his path then the cron job fails inexplicably
[16:33] <Noorideen> jackbrown, thank you, but what i see is that pro programmers uses ubuntu, and new programmers uses mint, why?
[16:33] <escott> linusoleander, always use full paths. always specify explicitly any environment variables needed
[16:33] <phunyguy> hey folks, I am trying to use motion to capture a security camera, and the only way it will work is with  LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so before the command.  How can I add that to the init script in /etc/init.d ?
[16:33] <linusoleander> escott: It isn't used by anyone but the system
[16:33] <chamunks> bd___, there isnt any best its preference really
[16:33] <bd___> chamunks: they are both more or less the same Ubuntu?
[16:33] <chamunks> bd___, stable long term service releases are less bleeding edge which is basically the only difference
[16:33] <jackbrown> ??
[16:34] <k1l> Noorideen: mint uses another managment with the codecs and drivers and 3rd party programs. and got another update system management.
[16:34] <chamunks> bd___, 12.04 is an LTS release (long term service[2years])
[16:34] <linusoleander> escott: That won't always work
[16:34] <bazhang> chamunks, its 5 years
[16:34] <bd___> chamunks: ah ok.  Do you think ubuntu's bleeding edge "definition" is stable enough for a production environment?
[16:34] <Noorideen> k1l, so you ubuntu > mint?
[16:34] <chamunks> bazhang, thanks for correcting me :) I just assumed wrong i suppose :P
[16:35] <bd___> bazhang: you'd go with 12.04 or 12.10?
[16:35] <bazhang> Noorideen, thats not on topic here. no more polling
[16:35] <edheldil> Hi all, I have noticed that when resolving (build) dependencies with a stated max version, lucid picks the correct non-newest package, while precise aborts due to trying just the newest one. AFAICS the matching version should be available in both. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a tweak for it?
[16:35] <chamunks> bd___, if its an office I wouldn't suggest the latest unless you know why
[16:35] <jackyboy633> @brontosaurusrex I've Googled it and it says that if you set it to a very high value (i. E. 90000) then the problem will not occur.
[16:35] <chamunks> bd___, what is the roles these terminals would be being used for?
[16:35] <bazhang> bd___, depends. one is LTS 5 years support the other is 18 months. you choose
[16:35] <Noorideen> bazhang, ^_-
[16:36] <k1l> Noorideen: i dont want to decide for other users. but that topic would suit better into #ubuntu-discuss
[16:36] <bazhang> Noorideen, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <bd___> chamunks: web, steam and programming. Nothing out of the ordinary, it won't be a 24-hour connected server machine xD.
[16:36] <Noorideen> ok ty will go there
[16:36] <chamunks> bd___, sounds like a home office yes?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> ...BBL
[16:37] <bd___> bazhang: that's a big difference in support. Do you think that upgrading on a 6-month timeframe is safe?
[16:37] <bd___> chamunks: yes, kind of. Work and Entertainment, 50/50 :)
[16:38] <chamunks> bd___, I myself always find waiting on upgrading on the normal releases for a month or so is usuallly preferable to me as I dont like the launch bugs.
[16:38] <chamunks> bd___, ok well you'd likely get more enjoyment out of the latest if you like to have the newest features.
[16:39] <bd___> chamunks: and you never had problems with the upgrade procedure?
[16:39] <chamunks> bd___, im not sure how steam is going to be changing the linux game though its hard to forsee that.  But I myself have learned that I usually prefer the lts releases they drop a new one every 2 years but support them for 5
[16:39] <chamunks> bd___, I wouldn't say that at all.
[16:40] <bd___> chamunks: in Windows I always did clean installs. But they also have new versions in 3 years at least, not 6 months :). Windows upgrades tended to put the system slow, laggy
[16:40] <chamunks> bd___, but if you dont change too much you could get away with an upgrade fairly well I've seen some upgrade ok.
[16:40] <chamunks> bd___, you likely wont notice that with ubuntu ubuntu is an entirely different beast from windows.
[16:40] <bd___> chamunks: I've seen that Valve supports Ubuntu 12.04 LTS for steam. Does that mean that steam doesn't work in 12.10, 13.04 or further?
[16:41] <chamunks> bd___, I would imagine if it supports 12.04 that you'd be fine to run future versions as well but 12.04 would be the supported release.
[16:41] <ejv> or... try it and find out.
[16:41] <wootis_lap> i run 12.10 xubuntu and steam works fine.
[16:42] <chamunks> bd___, meaning if you go and run future versions steam/valve likely wont support your problems.
[16:42] <chamunks> bd___, basically official support means if somethings broken they will help you fix probably.
[16:42] <chamunks> bd___, otherwise you're on your own.
[16:43] <bd___> chamunks: canonical may take efforts to keep steam compatibility with newer versions in order to have users who install the non-LTS versions instead
[16:43] <chamunks> http://puu.sh/257uQ im running 12.04 lts server x64 and im wondering why its trying to downgrade my kernel or what might be causing this conflict.
[16:44] <chamunks> bd___, linux usually doesnt backpedal.
[16:45] <ejv> that's not true, LTS support essentially means they will continue to provide security and package updates for the environment, to the community. You need to actually purchase a "SLA" from Canonical if you actually want "official" support.
[16:45] <WXZ> how do I find out how many root windows are running on the system?
[16:45] <Myrtti> chamunks: you realise that the problem isn't necessarily that it is trying to downgrade (as I can't actually see what version of kernel you already have) but the fact that you're running low on disc space?
[16:46] <Myrtti> chamunks: atleast on /boot?
[16:46] <chamunks> Myrtti, I kind of inherited that problem  I dont know why the isolated the /boot partition but I dont really know how to remedy this issue.
[16:46] <Myrtti> chamunks: you might have older linux kernels that you don't actually need anymore
[16:47] <Myrtti> chamunks: they aren't autoremoved
[16:47] <chamunks> Myrtti, makes sense
[16:47] <angs> what is the command to make a partition table on /dev/sdb ?
[16:47] <chamunks> Myrtti, the server provider we're using is pretty new and trying to use some of our youtuber's fame to help promote by donating us  this server.
[16:47] <ejv> angs: fdisk / parted
[16:47] <chamunks> Myrtti, so they have some strange ideas.
[16:48] <chamunks> Myrtti, how would I go about removing the old versions?
[16:48] <ejv> seperating /boot into it's own partition isn't that strange at all.
[16:48] <angs> ejv: how is the usage, fdisk /dev/sdb parted?
[16:48] <black_puppydog> hey all,
[16:48] <escott> angs, ejv you should use parted not fdisk
[16:48] <ejv> angs: man fdisk | man parted
[16:48] <Ezekiel86> hi
[16:49] <black_puppydog> the ubuntu as think client thingy that mark mentions in the tablet video, does anybody have pointers to that?
[16:49] <chamunks> Myrtti, this is the first thing that comes up http://askubuntu.com/questions/153185/how-to-remove-kernels-from-previous-release
[16:49] <ejv> if you're a sysadmin, you should be familiar with how to use both
[16:49] <holstein> chamunks: i just leave them. they are quite small in size
[16:49] <chamunks> holstein, then I can't remedy my problem
[16:49] <chamunks> holstein, http://puu.sh/257uQ
[16:50] <holstein> chamunks: sure, you can do what you like.. everything is open.. what is the issue?
[16:50] <Myrtti> chamunks: the first answer seems about right, although I doubt update-grub2 is needed
[16:50] <ejv> scroll up holstein lol
[16:50] <holstein> im just not sure you have a problem,other than maybe one you are creating for yourself that might not be neccessary
[16:50] <bd___> chamunks: do you know of a ppa with libreoffice 4?
[16:50] <holstein> ejv: i am asking for a consice recap...
[16:50] <chamunks> bd___, no but im sure you can just ask the channel someone might pipe up
[16:51] <bd___> Anybody here has a PPA with libreoffice 4? Tks
[16:51] <chamunks> holstein, i've only got a 100mb /boot for some reason the server admins thought this was a good idea when they imaged the server.
[16:51] <EyePulp> maybe a silly question - are there restrictions on the filename of an upstart file?  e.g. is foo.bar.baz.conf  acceptable, or do the dots make it barf?
[16:51] <chamunks> Myrtti, ok thanks I hope this doesn't break things :P
[16:52] <ejv> 100mb for /boot is plenty, remove the older kernels you don't need
[16:53] <geryon6> EyePulp: Don't know, but you could use dashes instead of dots. That works definitely.
[16:53] <xQuinn> Hello everyone - I have a netbook with an AMD C-70. The battery life is awful and there's no brightness settings on the open source driver and it's not supported by catalyst...what should I do?
[16:54] <holstein> chamunks: i would just search "linux" in the package manager of your choice
[16:54] <chamunks> holstein, I only have ssh access to this machine its a server hosted by some people in newzealand
[16:54] <EyePulp> geryon6: true enough - I had wondered a few times in the past and thought I'd to educate myself finally. =)  I was hoping this would elaborate more:  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#job-configuration-file
[16:54] <EyePulp> geryon6: I'll find out shortly. =)
[16:55] <xQuinn> Hello everyone - I have a netbook with an AMD C-70. The battery life is awful and there's no brightness settings on the open source driver and it's not supported by catalyst...what should I do?
[16:55] <ejv> Pray :)
[16:55] <holstein> chamunks: cool, so the commandline pacakge management tool of your choice
[16:55] <Abhijit> hi. where to talk about ubuntu tablet?
[16:56] <Abhijit> the register page is not working.
[16:56] <holstein> !patience | xQuinn
[16:56] <Myrtti> !tablet > Abhijit
[16:56] <chamunks> holstein, I'd imagine anything containing "Linux" would spew a boatload of stuff.
[16:56] <holstein> xQuinn: i found better supported hardware.. theres jupiter for power management.. but the hardware support will be what it is, pretty much
[16:57] <holstein> chamunks: i would not imagine, and just search..
[16:57] <Stranger> Alright I was here a little bit ago. I was having problems with wubi showing up as a boot option and not working after reinstalling windows. So I re-reinstalled wubi and I get the same error.. Using google I am really lost.
[16:57] <holstein> chamunks: you should be able to see a list of the kernels you have installed and search for them one by one if you like
[16:57] <oal> Ubuntu for tablets looks phenomenal. Can't wait to put it in my Nexus 10. :D
[16:58] <holstein> Stranger: you asked that the wubi install be removed.. you will need to manually work with the windows bootloader
[16:58] <cigos> !list
[16:58] <holstein> Stranger: try recovering the windows bootloader if you have not
[16:58] <Stranger> holstein Sorry I thought I made it clear. I wanted it to work
[16:58] <chamunks> holstein, fair enough I've found a howto via google that seems decent.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/153185/how-to-remove-kernels-from-previous-release
[16:58] <Stranger> It was not working.
[16:58] <Stranger> Can you point me towards something...?
[16:58] <holstein> Stranger: sure.. you removed it, so it wont work
[16:59] <ejv> chamunks: using Synaptic makes removing older kernels very easy.
[16:59] <Stranger> Well the problem was it was still showing up as a boot option when I don't think it should have
[16:59] <holstein> Stranger: i would just recover the mbr in windows
[16:59] <Stranger> And actually running the wubi.exe did nothing.
[16:59] <Stranger> mbr?
[16:59] <Myrtti> ejv: when you don't have graphical user interface, Synaptic is a bit difficult suggestion.
[16:59] <chamunks> ejv, its a headless server It wouuld be a pain to setup x-forwarding but I do know synaptic and its a great tool :)
[16:59] <holstein> Stranger: the fact is, you blew out te wubi install and the entry was still there..
[17:00] <holstein> Stranger: what would i do? i would look at the windows MBR config
[17:01] <Touhou11> If you don't have a GUI, aptitude is a great alternative to Synaptic
[17:02] <bazhang> !aptitude | Touhou11
[17:02] <Stranger> holstein I have no idea, what you are suggestion or how this would "fix" wubi.
[17:02] <holstein> Stranger: wubi is not broken. its just not booting due to the bootloader config
[17:03] <holstein> Stranger: you removed the wubi target when you reinstalled windows.. the bootloader left the entry inplace
[17:04] <geryon6> Actually I don't have problems with aptitude an multiarch any more in 12.04.
[17:04] <Ziber> I want to make a crontab run once a day at midnight. I'm not terribly familiar with crontab syntax...
[17:04] <geryon6> *and
[17:04] <holstein> Stranger: what you have now is an entry in the windows bootloader that is pointing to a target you removed.. i would manaully fix the bootloader
[17:04] <Ziber> 0 0 * * * /path/to/script?
[17:04] <ejv> chamunks: in that case, that link will be sufficient ;)
[17:05] <chamunks> ejv, :) i'm already running into a problem http://puu.sh/258dF
[17:05] <Stranger> holstein Just to be clear, when I boot. It gives me the option to choose ubuntu and when I do I get Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) + other shit.
[17:06] <holstein> Stranger: watch the languge, and yes, it is pointint to the old wuib install you removed
[17:06] <holstein> Stranger: the windows bootloader says "boot that wubi install" but you removed it
[17:06] <chamunks> Myrtti, http://puu.sh/258dF is my next issue.
[17:07] <ejv> chamunks: do what it says, apt-get -f install
[17:07] <chamunks> ejv, my issue is I cant because of lack of space
[17:07] <Stranger> holstein Can you link something that tells me how to fix this?
[17:07] <chamunks> ejv, in my /boot so I'm trying to apt-get purge some stuff so i have space so that I can run apt-get -f install
[17:07] <Myrtti> chamunks: do what it tells you to do
[17:07] <chamunks> kk
[17:08] <chamunks> Myrtti, ejv http://puu.sh/258hO
[17:08] <chamunks> this looks like it should work
[17:09] <chamunks> Myrtti, ejv then I get this http://puu.sh/258j7
[17:09] <holstein> Stranger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Cannot_boot_into_Ubuntu http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.com/2012/08/boot-repair-and-wubi.html
[17:09] <Stranger> holstein thank you
[17:10] <holstein> Stranger: i ran those last 2 together.. oppologies
[17:10] <holstein> Stranger: let me know if you need me to repost them seperated so you can click on them
[17:11] <Myrtti> chamunks: boo :-( sadly I have to go cook dinner and can't help you more, but good luck and I hope you get it fixed
[17:11] <chiang> /
[17:11] <chamunks> myrtti eat something delicious :)
[17:11] <chiang> /
[17:12] <eddd> anyone know some imageviewer like display that can read from stdout ?
[17:13] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, with all the new talk of tablets and phones, is there any improvement to the Unity DE? My previous experiences with it (half a year ago) is that it was still kinda laggy.
[17:13] <holstein> DeltaHeavy: try it live
[17:14] <Touhou11> DeltaHeavy: The UI is ok, but the dashboard searching is slow imo. Especially compared to GNOME Shell/Windows/Spotlight
[17:14] <DeltaHeavy> holstein: I don't have time for that for the moment, just wondering if anybody knows. I like Unity's layout, just not it's performance.
[17:14] <DeltaHeavy> Touhou11: Ok, do you also find there's a bit of a delay in comparison to GNOME etc when you click on one of those side icons?
[17:15] <k1l> DeltaHeavy: no lag or delay here
[17:15] <Touhou11> DeltaHeavy: Delay in launching the programs? Or for the UI to animate/respond? It's ok for me, though I have proprietary drivers for my graphics card installed. Don't know how it is without hardware acceleration
[17:15] <holstein> DeltaHeavy: i would say, any improvents are a matter of opinion.. unity/ubuntu are always in active development
[17:15] <k1l> DeltaHeavy: but that depends on the hardware and the drivers involved. better try yourselv
[17:15] <brian__> Hi all. Can anyone advise me about an error that I have with my update manager? "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:15] <brian__> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_i18n_Translation-en
[17:15] <brian__> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:15] <brian__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:15] <DeltaHeavy> Touhou11: Moreso the UI being responsive.
[17:16] <holstein> brian__: try "sudo apt-get update" then whatever you are doing.. also, pastebin
[17:16] <DeltaHeavy> And yeah, perhaps I should install the proprietary NVidea drivers instead of using nouvou or whatever it works with by default
[17:16] <Touhou11> DeltaHeavy: I always notice a lag with any X Windows environment personally, Windows and Mac are much better in that regard.
[17:16] <DeltaHeavy> I usually use my hardrive on more than one computer though so that's an issue =/
[17:17] <brian__> Ok I'll try that Just a minute.
[17:17] <DeltaHeavy> Touhou11: GNOME2/MATE/Cinnamon/XFCE have 0 lag for me, only Unity when I use it.
[17:18] <holstein> DeltaHeavy: i find lag in UI's in general.. is unity faster? sure.. speed is a focus.. is it fast enough? thats up to you.. is is faster than others? probably like anything else, faster than some and slower than others
[17:19] <holstein> also, depends on what you need/want.. and the hardare you are running on
[17:19] <holstein> hardware*
[17:20] <Touhou11> Wayland should help, X11 architecture affects the responsiveness at the moment
[17:20] <parallel21> Anyone setup jabber to auth against Windows AD?
[17:21] <brian__> holstein: Done - here is the error I got in the terminal window ...
[17:21] <DeltaHeavy> holstein: Yeah, I just find besides me, other people I've talked to previously have had issues with Unity's responsiveness across a wide range of hardware. Guess I'll have to try it for myself.
[17:21] <brian__> W: Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/apt.insynchq.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_non-free_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch   E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:22] <holstein> brian__: i would look at my sources
[17:24] <brian__> holstein: you got a newby here. how must i go about that?
[17:25] <escott> brian__, its possible that the mirror you are downloading from just needs an update. try a different mirror or wait 24hours
[17:25] <holstein> brian__: what did you do right befor this error? have you tried "fix broken packages" in the menu in synaptic?
[17:25] <holstein> yeah.. thats likely as well brian__ ^^
[17:26] <atomx> Hi. I try to make a network boot using PXE. I installed dhcp3 and tftpd-hpa , and I do not know what to do next.
[17:26] <atomx> There are too many tutorials , and I do not know which one to chose
[17:27] <ikonia> atomx: what have you done so far
[17:27] <sharperguy> Anyone know why when I open usb-creator I can see one partition of my external drive twice, and not the other?
[17:27] <ikonia> atomx: have you looked on the ubuntu wiki ?
[17:27] <atomx> ikonia: yes, I am there now.
[17:27] <blow> .
[17:27] <atomx> both computers, server & client are and will be ubuntu
[17:28] <atomx> (netboot client I mean)
[17:28] <escott> sharperguy, can you run "sudo parted -l" and paste that to us via paste.ubuntu.com
[17:29] <brian__> holstein: First time seen this error. I get the same error when trying to start Synaptic (now I'm getting worried)
[17:29] <atomx> ikonia: Now I think I should configure eth0 and the dhcp  and the tftp server in the right way .
[17:29] <ikonia> atomx: you already knew that....
[17:29] <Synthead> if I download a .desktop file, it won't launch from Nautilus unless I go (right-click), properties, permissions, and check "Allow executing file as program".  What does this actually do?  When running XFCE, this is not necessary, which seems strange.
[17:30] <holstein> brian__: you could be accessing a bad miror as escott suggests..
[17:31] <atomx> ikonia: yeah, but I tried once a few days ago, and after 1 hour I gave up. It did not work, and I suspected it took too much time to learn how to do it. Now I am trying to do it , in the same time asking the experts
[17:32] <brian__> holstein: escott: how will i determine which mirror i am currently accessing?
[17:32] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. I just restarted my server (10.04) and MySQL won't start.. when I try service mysql start I get "start: Job failed to start".. Where might I find the logs to find out why it won't start?
[17:32] <ikonia> atomx: you're not asking anything though
[17:32] <holstein> brian__: its listed in the error
[17:32] <dniw> hey i'm trying to make my macbook pro ubuntu only, when i boot from CD i can't find "partition editor" in the system settings
[17:33] <holstein> dniw: gparted
[17:33] <dniw> is that what i type in the search?
[17:33] <ejv> JeffJassky: what does it say when you perform: sudo service mysql restart ?
[17:33] <holstein> !info gparted
[17:33] <ejv> pastebin is your friend
[17:33] <JeffJassky> ejv: "restart: Unknown instance: "
[17:33] <brian__> holstein: Would it be maybe this "W: Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/apt.insynchq.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_non-free_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[17:33] <JeffJassky> ejv: same with "stop"
[17:34] <JeffJassky> I've been googling for like 30 minutes. No luck.
[17:34] <atomx> Is there a tool like netstat, to see whether a given port is open by a given application, and the status of the port ?
[17:34] <escott> brian__, your mirror is insynchq.com (its in the filename)
[17:34] <holstein> brian__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-hash-sum-mismatch-error has a suggestion
[17:35] <ejv> perhaps your restart broke something, start looking in /var/log/
[17:36] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody can help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579   <<<   How to Write Correct copyright File?
[17:36] <brian__> holstein: Thx - i'll check it out
[17:36] <ejv> if that doesn't turn up anything, i'd simply re-install the service, and restore your database from backup.
[17:36] <PTAlisPT> Hello!
[17:36] <atomx> sudo service tftpd-hpa restart says  tftpd-hpa stop/waiting and tftpd-hpa start/running, but `ps -e|grep ftp` is void . Is it good so ?
[17:36] <Malsasa> PTAlisPT: yes...
[17:37] <PTAlisPT> Could you explain me something?
[17:37] <ikonia> atomx: just telnet to the port
[17:37] <PTAlisPT> It's like this, I've just read the ubuntu tablet thing
[17:37] <Malsasa> PTAlisPT: if your question is not difficult...
[17:37] <atomx> ikonia: does not work
[17:37] <ikonia> atomx: then it's not open
[17:37] <sharperguy> Why does usb-creator not show me the other partition of my external drive?
[17:38] <genii-around> sharperguy: Because it's not a partitioning program
[17:38] <dniw> holstein ty, found it
[17:38] <escott> sharperguy, can you run "sudo parted -l" and paste that to us via paste.ubuntu.com
[17:39] <atomx> ikonia: it will be long work to do, as it looks like.
[17:39] <PTAlisPT_> Why do they want to create a tablet?
[17:39] <ikonia> PTAlisPT_: mail and ask
[17:39] <sharperguy> http://pastebin.com/3rYgH0Cu
[17:40] <sharperguy> so I want to install to /dev/sdb2
[17:40] <PTAlisPT_> Shouldn't it be easier to get an android tablet and run ubuntu on it?
[17:40] <ikonia> PTAlisPT_: mail them and ask them
[17:40] <PTAlisPT_> Ok, sorry if I am ebing annoying...
[17:40] <PTAlisPT_> :-(
[17:40] <PTAlisPT_> *being
[17:40] <ikonia> PTAlisPT_: not at all, but you can't expect people to know Canonical's marketing/long term strategy
[17:41] <root__> Hello World
[17:41] <ikonia> PTAlisPT_: only Canonical can respond to that question
[17:41] <PTAlisPT_> Yeah... Do you know if it is too hard to install ubuntu on a tablet?
[17:41] <PTAlisPT_> ARM one
[17:41] <porkchop85> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918849
[17:41] <LaserShark> PTAlisPT_, depends on the tablet
[17:42] <escott> sharperguy, i would imagine its because you can't use the other partition in a liveusb
[17:42] <PTAlisPT_> An quad core arm 15 2gb of ram
[17:42] <porkchop85> im running it on my asus transformer
[17:42] <PTAlisPT_> This one for example
[17:42] <porkchop85> but a few things dont work
[17:42] <sharperguy> escott, I've managed this before though, this is what this partition has always done
[17:42] <PTAlisPT_> yes, but ASUS has a lot of support
[17:42] <LaserShark> i'm too lazy to get off my butt and install it on my nexus 7
[17:42] <sharperguy> escott, I'm just trying to put a different image on it
[17:43] <porkchop85> im gonna put android back on it though
[17:43] <porkchop85> i miss multitouch lol
[17:43] <PTAlisPT_> Some tablets have great potencial, ubuntu is the key
[17:44] <supNow> anyone in here feeling generous enough to help a poor guy in need without directing me to another channel saying it's their fault? lol :)
[17:44] <ikonia> supNow: depends on the problem, we deal with ubuntu issues here
[17:45] <sharperguy> escott, ok I reformatted it with fat32 and it shows up now
[17:45] <evilroots> supnow, whats the problem?
[17:45] <sharperguy> escott, but do you know how i can do this and be sure im not telling it to erase the whole drive? because ive made this mistake before
[17:45] <PTAlisPT__> Disconnected again
[17:45] <supNow> I'm having some issues due to the way ubuntu installs apache and getting something else installed and working properly evilroots , ikonia
[17:45] <PTAlisPT__> The problem is to install ubuntu on tablets, I mean, taking a generic and put ubuntu or other dist on it
[17:45] <Guido1> hello, i have some problems with my ipod mini syncronisatie. does anyone knows something about this?
[17:46] <ikonia> supNow: ok, so can you expand on the problem please.
[17:46] <bazhang> !tablet | PTAlisPT__
[17:46] <PTAlisPT__> ok, thank you!
[17:46] <bazhang> PTAlisPT__, this is the wrong channel for it
[17:46] <brian__> holstein: Ok - the content of the dir was removed as suggested. Did the apt-get update and got no error this time. Should i now try synaptic or the update manager?
[17:46] <escott> sharperguy, not really its an unusual configuration for a liveusb
[17:47] <sakkemo> does it matter what size /run is if it's "large enough"? Is there any harm that it is as large as 1.6 GB; is the memory still usable for other programs if /run is pretty escampty?
[17:47] <sakkemo> SUOLAp4hkin4
[17:47] <ejv> no ikonia , it's more fun to guess what it might be, rather than have details! cmon!
[17:47] <SJr> I upgraded Kubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04 on my Mac Mini (no Mac OS X partition left) and now the system doesn't boot. It just hangs on a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure the installer did something funking to the bootloader but I'm not sure how to fix it.
[17:47] <holstein> brian__: if you have no errors, do what you were doing and enjoy!
[17:47] <ubuntuw1204> Hola!
[17:47] <sakkemo> man i3-msg
[17:47] <sweb>  how can i enable dns caching for using wget ?
[17:47] <SJr> I can boot into a USB drive
[17:47] <escott> sakkemo, run is a tmpfs
[17:47] <ejv> "I'll take 20 questions for $800 Alex"
[17:47] <sakkemo> jjjjjjjjjji3-msreload
[17:47] <supNow> I've been trying to install vtigercrm. I tried the .bin file but ran into issues because of the httpd.conf vs apache2.conf so I canned that idea and downloaded the source of vtigercrm. I am able to get it loading the install page and get through the steps of putting in db info etc. but when I click to install it returns a blank page. So I'm thinking it is possibly a permission issue, but I did to chmod 775 for the folder.
[17:48] <sakkemo> jjjjjjjjjji3-msrecommand load
[17:48] <ikonia> sakkemo: please stop that
[17:48] <sakkemo> jjjjjjjjjji3-msrecomman
[17:48] <sakkemo> jjjjjjjjjji3-msrecomman -h
[17:48] <ikonia> sakkemo: stop now
[17:48] <chaz_z> hey guys, I have kde installed over xubuntu. I need to change my gtk settings but I don't have the gtk config application in my software sources. what to do?
[17:48] <apb1963_> This is making me a little nuts...  what am I doing wrong here?  find . -type f | xargs grep LS_COLORS {}\;
[17:48] <sakkemo> man i3luefire_ -ms
[17:48] <ikonia> sakkemo: last warning
[17:49] <escott> apb1963_, you have confused -exec with xargs
[17:49] <supNow> ikonia, evilroots  I responded but forgot to include your names
[17:49] <ikonia> supNow: I saw,
[17:49] <erle-> whats the best exif data viewer?
[17:49] <sakkemo> qstartx
[17:49] <ikonia> supNow: what language is the web page written in
[17:49] <chaz_z> nvm I found it lol
[17:49] <brian__> holstein: escott: It works. all back to normal and the "no entry" sign in the task bar has disappeared. You guys rock. awesome. Thanks for your help, really appreciated.
[17:49] <apb1963_> oh
[17:49] <supNow> ikonia, english
[17:49] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody can help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579 <<< How to Write Correct copyright File?
[17:49] <ejv> sweb: wget is independent of dns caching; I would look into using something like dnsmasq
[17:49] <sharperguy> escott, ok well i think i did the right think and at least it booted
[17:49] <supNow> ikonia, php :)
[17:49] <escott> apb1963_, on top of which i would ask... why not just use the -R option to grep
[17:49] <ikonia> supNow: no, I mean programming language
[17:50] <ikonia> supNow: ok, can you do a quick test page to confirm php is working properly
[17:50] <supNow> yes I realized that after slapping myself in the head... lol
[17:50] <ikonia> supNow: just something like a php_info();
[17:50] <ejv> where did sakkemo go, i liked him
[17:50] <supNow> phpadmin is running fine as well as another local site I have running on the internal server
[17:50] <apb1963_> because back in my day we didn't have a -R option to grep.  We had to walk 5 miles just to get the regular grep and we were happy to do it.
[17:50] <ikonia> supNow: ok, so that's a good sign
[17:50] <escott> apb1963_, uphill in the snow both ways :)
[17:51] <supNow> ikonia, yes it is :) I do good and had 0 issues until this install
[17:51] <ikonia> supNow: so now sadly you're going to have to run through each function in the install.php page and see which one it's failing on
[17:51] <genadi> hello! I am trying to setup SMB server conf to be public, and allow my laptops, smartphones etc access all my shares without requiring username/password
[17:51] <genadi> I read the Samba documentation
[17:51] <apb1963_> nah, this was in California no snow and it was by the beach
[17:51] <ikonia> supNow: may want to enable php debugging too, try to get some better output
[17:51] <genadi> and I cant figure out how to do this, using user level auth, or share level auth :/
[17:51] <genadi> it just doesnt specify
[17:51] <ejv> !enter | genadi
[17:51] <supNow> ikonia, ok let me get that open and for debugging is that enabled in the php.ini?
[17:51] <ikonia> supNow: I think there are debugging options in the php.ini
[17:51] <genadi> ok ejv
[17:53] <psichas> what i should write in boot if i want start debian without xdm?
[17:53] <apb1963_> ok now I'm getting a missing argument??
[17:53] <apb1963_> to -exec?
[17:53] <supNow> ikonia, before I do this I'd like to add something in in case it may change. After clicking to install and it returning a blank page (no db tables created) if I try to ryun the install again, the install feature is gone but a migrate feature added, it's as if it sees a previous version there even though nothing was done.
[17:53] <bazhang> psichas, #debian
[17:53] <kriss3d> Is there a known bug with the installer in ubuntu that will stall after selecting keyboard and pressing next ? (step 3) ??
[17:53] <ikonia> supNow: probably just a flat that's been set
[17:53] <xkid> irc.videolan.org #videolan
[17:54] <ikonia> supNow: I'd check your DB config first
[17:54] <supNow> ikonia, ok thank s I'll get on the debugging
[17:54] <ejv> kriss3d: check the Ubiquity Launchpad, and find out.
[17:54] <apb1963_> find . -type f -exec grep LS_COLORS {}\;
[17:54] <sakkemo> sorry about that, my i3 bailed me and I tried to thought it dropped me to unworking virtual terminal with just the cursor rather than keeping the input here; thanks for mute :)
[17:54] <escott> apb1963_, again "grep -R LS_COLORS ." also keep in mind that shell is parsed on spaces
[17:54] <bazhang> sakkemo, stay on topic here
[17:55] <kriss3d> ejv yeah i would but the actual distro is Backtrack 5 but since its using the ubuntu installer....
[17:55] <escott> apb1963_, so "{}\;" is incorrect
[17:55] <DoWhileGeek> so my ubuntu laptop is slowing down majorly and there arnt any spikes in system monitor, whats going on?
[17:55] <apb1963_> ah.  needs a space
[17:55] <apb1963_> thank you
[17:55] <apb1963_> sadly, my quest to find where colors are set systemwide has failed
[17:55] <ikonia> apb1963_: /etc/dircolors ?
[17:56] <ejv> I think it goes without saying that Backtrack isn't supported here.
[17:56] <apb1963_> nope
[17:56] <bazhang> !backtrack | kriss3d
[17:56] <ikonia> apb1963_: $LS_COLORS ?
[17:56] <apb1963_> no /etc/dircolors /etc/DIR_COLORS   or any other variation I can think of.  Not in /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d/*
[17:56] <ejv> i was trying to spare him that bazhang
[17:56] <kriss3d> ejv and bazhang I know but since its the same installer and i assume you can guess where they point me when i ask in the BT channel...
[17:57] <ejv> ok there's where you're wrong, it's *not* the same installer
[17:57] <bazhang> kriss3d, it is not supported here. please dont ask any further
[17:57] <kriss3d> well i might be wrong indeed yes
[17:57] <apb1963_> yes but where does LS_COLORS get set on a system wide basis?
[17:57] <kriss3d> ok ill respect that.
[17:57] <ikonia> kriss3d: why do you think it's system wide ? and not just in the users directory
[17:57] <ikonia> kriss3d: oops sorry, not you
[17:58] <ikonia> apb1963_ why do you think it's system wide ? and not just in the users directory
[17:58] <ejv> kriss3d: the backtrack devs could have done innumerable tweaks and changes to ubuntu's version of ubiquity; because of that support isn't offered here for that derivative.
[17:58] <apb1963_> it's not in /etc/bash.bashrc
[17:58] <apb1963_> err... so that it's well hidden from ordinary users?
[17:58] <paul2_> i just watched the ubuntu for tablets ad and i have one question: can a usual ubuntu for tablets installation run desktop applications for ubuntu such as gimp?
[17:58] <kriss3d> yeah i suppose so.. ok ill dig into the installer to see whats going on. i just assumed since ive seen a few reports on ubuntu installer doing the exact same thing..
[17:59] <holstein> !tablet | paul2_
[17:59] <paul2_> sorry
[17:59] <evilbit> Hi All, I'm in the process of migrating from CentOS to Ubuntu 12.10 server... I was wondering if anyone has pointers to sysadmin'ing ubuntu in a cli mode only
[17:59] <ejv> kriss3d: your best bet is file a report on Launchpad, or find an open ticket matching your issue, and of course #backtrack-linux
[17:59] <ikonia> evilbit: same as Centos
[17:59] <apb1963_> so what you're saying is.. you don't know where it is either
[17:59] <ikonia> evilbit: if you can do centos, you'll have no problems with ubuntu
[17:59] <evilbit> ikonia: different config files and the like
[18:00] <ikonia> evilbit: not massivly different,
[18:00] <kriss3d> ejv yeah thanks im in the #backtrack-linux already but ill try out the launchpads
[18:00] <apb1963_> I spent a half hour googling it before coming here.. plenty of places to set it on a per user basis... but nobody seems to know where it is system wide - on ubuntu
[18:00] <evilbit> ikonia: yeah... I was wondering if there's a rosetta stone for the two... I've finally got preseeds down so I can replicate kickstarts
[18:01] <apb1963_> dircolors is about the closest I could come
[18:01] <ikonia> evilbit: nothing offical, but I assure you it takes 5 minutes to work out the differences when you need to do something
[18:01] <evilbit> ikonia: ok. thx
[18:01] <exosyst> Is there something wrong with installing 12.04 to a thumbstick?
[18:02] <ejv> i sense a real question in there somewhere
[18:02] <crystufer_> Hey. How does one make a program run from terminal without giving the directory?
[18:02] <lehzeni> exosyst, unless you have enough ram to skip having a swap partition, that thumbstick will have a short lifespan
[18:03] <exosyst> It worked fine on 10.04.X but it comes up with an error about couldn't install grub to /dev/sda and I told it to use /dev/sdb (the stick) but it seems to have failed
[18:03] <apb1963_> well... if somebody finds it, please /msg me.  My irc client doesn't do anything special when you say my name so please /msg me or I'll prolly never see it.  Thank you
[18:03] <bulletrulz> hey how to make skype output my input you know
[18:03] <exosyst> lehzeni, It's fine, I change /var/log to a ramdisk as well as /tmp - they're not designed to last that long anyway
[18:03] <Gnea> bulletrulz: no, we don't know. what output? and which input, specifically?
[18:03] <exosyst> But that's a step to follow actually getting it to install
[18:04] <omkar_> hey guys i have ubuntu 12.10 and i have installed php5 but i wanted to know how to install json
[18:04] <The_Cog> crystufer_: You would have to add the directory it's in to your "path" which is the list of directories to search when given a command.
[18:04] <exosyst> omkar_, You don't install json
[18:04] <bulletrulz> Gnea, like what i hear they hear
[18:04] <exosyst> json is a notation, do you mean nodejs instead?
[18:04] <Gnea> bulletrulz: I strongly suggest headphones for that.
[18:05] <crystufer_> The_Cog Okay. that sounds doable. Where is the list?
[18:05] <Gnea> bulletrulz: and a microphone.
[18:05] <omkar_> when i try instslling json using this
[18:05] <omkar_> apt-get install php5-json it says something like this
[18:05] <bulletrulz> Gnea, yea i have head phones but i know on windows skype has a what i hear mode
[18:05] <omkar_> Note, selecting 'php5-common' instead of 'php5-json'
[18:05] <Gnea> bulletrulz: also, skype uses pulseaudio, so you'll need to bring up the pulseaudio controls to adjust the volumes and such
[18:05] <omkar_> oh
[18:06] <lehzeni> exosyst, did you zero out the whole thumbstick before trying to install 12.04?
[18:06] <crystufer_> The_Cog, http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm Like that?
[18:06] <exosyst> lehzeni, I didn't do that. I don't see why that would make a difference given that it's repartitioned and formatted
[18:06] <bulletrulz> Gnea, do u know how to do it?
[18:07] <omkar_> @exosyst i m trying to install ganglia on my laptop
[18:07] <omkar_> and the ebook said so to check json
[18:07] <The_Cog> crystufer_: The command "echo $PATH" will show you the current search path. To add a directory temporarily (e.g. /foo/bar), use "PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar"
[18:08] <The_Cog> crystufer_: Yes that's a better description than I could type here
[18:08] <crystufer_> The_Cog, Could I add a single program to that by tossing a symlink in any of the folders currently in the searchpath?
[18:08] <lehzeni> exosyst, thumbdrives do some weird things with block reordering to implement wear leveling
[18:09] <The_Cog> crystufer_: Yes. there's a /home/yourname/bin folder that is probably in your path. You could toss the program or symlink in there.
[18:09] <wiggmpk> omkar_: php5-common will provide php5-json functions
[18:09] <crystufer_> The_Cog, Perfect. Thank you for your help sir/ma'am.
[18:10] <Gnea> bulletrulz: have you read the ubuntu skype page yet?
[18:10] <omkar_> ok
[18:10] <bulletrulz> Gnea, yes
[18:10] <omkar_> ok thanks
[18:10] <wiggmpk> omkar_: the pacakges conflict with each other so im assuming you already have php5-common installed.. thats why it wont let you install php5-json
[18:10] <Gnea> bulletrulz: this one, right? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[18:11] <atomx> ikonia: does not work the tftp port
[18:11] <bulletrulz> Gnea, yes
[18:13] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys.. where are apparmor entries located?
[18:15] <exosyst> lehzeni, yeah that's not gonna be helped by writing all over it with zeros. I guess I gotta stick with 10.04
[18:17] <Raki_> hi
[18:18] <jx8p> i hate to do this but i'm threatening an eBay seller who sold me a faulty MacBook
[18:18] <jx8p> if they do not refund or offer partial refund they will be appearing in court in front of a magistrate
[18:18] <OerHeks> jx8p, wrong channel
[18:19] <stevetheitguy> is is possible to resize a mount in ubuntu 12 without booting to a live cd ?
[18:19] <jx8p> OerHeks: there is no #ebay
[18:19] <Gnea> jx8p: nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:19] <escott> stevetheitguy, as long as the partition is not active sure
[18:19] <holstein> jx8p: check the offtopic channels
[18:19] <kostkon> jx8p, there is ubuntu offtopic though
[18:19] <Gnea> jx8p: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:19] <kostkon> !ot | jx8p
[18:19] <jx8p> thanks
[18:20] <stevetheitguy> it is active i have it hosted on vmware and i wanted to increase the size
[18:20] <ad> helli
[18:20] <dniw> how come ubuntu on my macbook pro seems like it's running the fans at max speed
[18:20] <escott> stevetheitguy, you cannot resize an active partition
[18:21] <lehzeni> stevetheitguy, changing an in-use partition will cause an interesting system crash and file corruption
[18:21] <escott> dniw, because it is
[18:22] <dniw> is there a way to make it so it doesn't?
[18:22] <dniw> its pretty loud
[18:22] <stevetheitguy> its not the primary partition so best would be to boot to live cd and resize ?
[18:23] <wiggmpk> anyone running 12.04.2 64bit with the new LTS Enablement Stacks? Just curious as to if I should upgrade since I read it's only intended for x86 right now.
[18:24] <JeffJassky> My MySQL process recently crashed. After a system reboot the mysql process is failing to start.. could anyone possibly walk me through some steps to find out why? :(
[18:24] <lehzeni> stevetheitguy, that seems tobe the only way to resize
[18:25] <rikimaru90> Hey guys, is there anyway I can remove the keyring password? I dislike entering my password everytime I boot, twice
[18:25] <escott> rikimaru90, if it matches the login password you shouldn't be asked twice
[18:25] <stevetheitguy> thanks
[18:26] <rikimaru90> escott, well the passwords match, but I log in through CLI then startx
[18:26] <escott> rikimaru90, that would do it
[18:26] <exosyst> rikimaru90, may I ask why?
[18:27] <rikimaru90> escott, I only just heard I could leave it empty, anyway to change it?
[18:27] <escott> rikimaru90, short of disabling the keyring i dont see how you could leave it empty
[18:28] <rikimaru90> Well I'm currently on archlinux with Cinnamon. Since ubuntu uses a lot of gnome programs I could ask for help here.
[18:28] <OerHeks> dniw, did you check the mactel pages ? maybe you need fancontrol from this ppa >>> https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal
[18:28] <dniw> i'll check it out thanks
[18:29] <mahe> am playing around with sh files, I want to create a text file in a folder. This is how I do it: var='test' echo "$var" > folder/text.txt but I recieve no such file or directory. What is wrong? Or how do I do it?
[18:29] <exosyst> rikimaru90, I think you can get away with tweaking it in pacman
[18:29] <escott> mahe, you have to mkdir folder first
[18:29] <exosyst> rikimaru90, sorry, seahorse is what you want
[18:30] <mahe> escott I have done that.
[18:30] <Applesouce> Hello, I have a problem. I have Ubuntu 12.10 and my Wireless LAN is not working anymore. For some reason, it's connecting, but I have no network or internet access
[18:30] <rikimaru90> okay thanks
[18:30] <mahe> the directory is not being created either
[18:31] <atomx> ikonia: dhcp does not work at all, and tftp did not open a port
[18:31] <atomx> hot to do it ?
[18:31] <atomx> I spent 2 hours so far
[18:31] <escott> mahe, what error do you see with mkdir folder
[18:31] <exosyst> rikimaru90, I'd recommend not running an abomination of a desktop though. Install mint if you want cinammon, fedora 18 if you want Gnome 3/shell and Ubuntu for Unity. The other ways lay pain!
[18:31] <Sputnik_> Hello I have a question about  Network Manager
[18:31] <escott> mahe, if you have no error then i suspect you are confused about how working directories function
[18:32] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: "connecting" how?
[18:32] <Sputnik_> I get a popup sometimes that says "Authenticaiton required by wireless network"
[18:32] <Sputnik_> even though it is connected. I am using the computer to run digital signage. Anyway to disable that popup?
[18:32] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: At the top bar on the right, it said connected to wireless network and it's shows the sign that I have WLAN
[18:32] <rikimaru90> exosyst, Yeah I am learning form within a VM for a safe environment.
[18:33] <lehzeni> exosyst, you think anything else but cinnmaon gnome or unity is an abomination?
[18:33] <mahe> escott ill send u the code
[18:33] <exosyst> lehzeni, No. I'm saying that hacking and slashing together a desktop environment is a bad idea.
[18:33] <Sputnik_> should I switch to wicd? Or is there a way just to disable that specific part of NM?
[18:34] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: check whether you got an IP address.
[18:34] <Sputnik_> looks like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/dHdEk.png
[18:34] <moes> Ubuntu-12.04..I did a full install to a flash drive...I now want to install content from flash drive to my hard drive..The install icon is no longer available...How can I install from flash drive to Hard drive ??
[18:35] <Sputnik_> Tried checking remember network but it just pops up with password already in box
[18:35] <moooo> how do i grep something to see what driver i have installed for my video card?
[18:35] <Applesouce> It shows me an internal IP Adress, but also I have no network access and I can't ping my router
[18:35] <mahe> escott: http://pastebin.com/nrvwLE3j
[18:36] <alienaut> hello, is there DVD to avi converter for ubuntu
[18:36] <Sputnik_> anyone?
[18:36] <Walther> It appears that on my new 12.10 install w/ all the updates, installind nvidia-current broke my desktop. Not a noob here, any suggestions / do you know if there's a common bug going around at the moment?
[18:36] <mahe> escott I get errors like: ./inlupp1.sh: line 15: /laboration/filett.txt: No such file or directory
[18:36] <exosyst> alienaut, Use Handbrake
[18:37] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: It shows me an internal IP Adress, but also I have no network access and I can't ping my router
[18:38] <odra> Hey
[18:38] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: APIPA or "real" internal address?
[18:38] <odra> Anybody has a shell to recomend?
[18:39] <exosyst> odra, dash is fine. lots of scripts are written to support bash though. A shell is a shell.
[18:39] <Sputnik_> zsh?
[18:39] <gdanko> where do I go to submit a security flaw?
[18:39] <exosyst> odra, If you want to be weird, consider zsh, ksh or csh
[18:39] <Sputnik_> ZSH is so quick
[18:39] <alienaut> exosyst, thank you!
[18:39] <Walther> Any ideas on how to fix my desktop/X? dmesg doesn't report anything useful
[18:40] <Walther> unity/compiz doesn't load after i installed nvidia-current from repos
[18:40] <odra> Oh wait the thing is not called a shell
[18:40] <odra> Sorry I meant a "desktop"
[18:40] <exosyst> odra, If you're using Ubuntu, stick with unity
[18:40] <Sputnik_> anyone know anything about Network Manager?
[18:40] <odra> But I don't like unity :(
[18:40] <DJones> !bug | gdanko
[18:40] <Sputnik_> getting desperate have a deadline
[18:40] <gdanko> thnkd
[18:40] <gdanko> thanks
[18:41] <exosyst> Try Mint with cinammon, Fedora with Gnome Shell, Kubuntu with KDE
[18:41] <exosyst> take your pick odra.
[18:41] <exosyst> Sputnik_, Whats the problem?
[18:41] <odra> I realized Gnome shell isn't much better than unity
[18:41] <exosyst> yeesh - I came in asking for help with my own issue
[18:41] <odra> Actually it totally screws up workspaces somehow
[18:41] <Sputnik_> exosyst:  get a popup sometimes that says "Authenticaiton required by wireless network"even though it is connected. I am using the computer to run digital signage. Anyway to disable that popup? looks like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/dHdEk.png
[18:41] <exosyst> odra, I'm a gnome-shell user and i found it great for my use case
[18:42] <escott> mahe, i would hope that no such file exists
[18:42] <Sputnik_> exosyst: Using the computer to run digital signage looks bad when there is this huge pop up
[18:42] <exosyst> Sputnik_, it normally happens to me if a) password is wrong b) the wireless is patchy.
[18:42] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: How do I see the difference?
[18:42] <odra> exosyst: I don't like how you pick windows in activities with screenshots
[18:42] <odra> Actually they are real time renders
[18:43] <odra> But anyway I find myself distracted for moments trying to figure out what window is what
[18:43] <Sputnik_> exosyst: The password is right the wireless is a little patchy
[18:43] <exosyst> Sputnik_, If you need the wireless for it to work, check the strength and make sure there's no interference on the channel (normally most WiFi routers pick Channel 11 which gets congested)
[18:43] <Sputnik_> either way I don't want to see taht
[18:43] <odra> Not an improvement over alt tab :/
[18:43] <escott> mahe, you need to learn some bash basics like working directories and absolute vs relative paths
[18:43] <exosyst> Sputnik_, You don't want to see it? Then go wired and disable the wifi connection
[18:43] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: APIPA is 169.254.*.* and private ip is 10.*.*.* or 192.168.*.* or 172.16.*.*.
[18:44] <Sputnik_> exosyst: I did
[18:44] <Sputnik_> it's not a notification it's a window
[18:44] <exosyst> odra, I have a few windows open at a time and can't say I struggle to pick the right one. Your prerogative, use what works for you.
[18:44] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: Ok then I have a Network-IP http://pastebin.com/xYhUS5gQ
[18:44] <odra> exosyst: I have to try more of them to see what works for me D:
[18:45] <exosyst> Sputnik_, it won't show if you have disabled the wifi connection.
[18:45] <odra> Btw i don't like how everything looks black.
[18:45] <mahe> escott got any advice on that?
[18:45] <exosyst> odra, Then learn2theme?
[18:45] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: Oh for some reason, the IP is not on there, I had a 192.168 IP
[18:45] <Sputnik_> exosyst: I need the connection lol
[18:45] <Walther> [    13.873] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[18:45] <Walther> on a new 12.10 install, after installing nvidia-current
[18:46] <Walther> dmesg doesn't show anything useful
[18:46] <exosyst> Sputnik_, then you've not got much choice if you're using nm. If your wifi is patchy and fails, it will try to connect and ask for you to check the wifi
[18:46] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: check your router then if you got this IP via DHCP. Seems alright to me from the client side (i.e. your computer).
[18:46] <escott> mahe, i thought what i just gave you was advice
[18:46] <exosyst> Walther, what do you expect to see in dmesg?
[18:46] <lehzeni> should you normally be able to burn a dvd in dao/sao mode? or is that non-standard or impossible?
[18:47] <odra> I was told if I installed gnome shell I would be able to minimize windows clicking on the task bar :/
[18:47] <odra> Turns out there is no taskbar :/
[18:47] <Walther> exosyst: Well, usually any useful error messages show up in dmesg :P That error was in Xorg.0.log though
[18:47] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: Here I've got my ifconfig http://pastebin.com/qbC5AHnt
[18:47] <Walther> but yeah, I have no idea whatsoever how to fix this - nvidia-current is installed and everything should work
[18:47] <exosyst> odra, No. That's not gnome-shell. Consider cinammon for that.
[18:47] <Walther> however, I'm not getting a desktop / X running
[18:47] <odra> >___<
[18:48] <exosyst> Walther, so what's the problem? I only picked up the fact you're not seeing nvidia stuff in dmesg?
[18:48] <odra> How do I install cinammon on ubuntu? Actually isn't that a digimon?
[18:48] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: routing table? 'route -n'
[18:48] <Walther> exosyst: did you read anything at all? :D I'm not getting a graphical desktop at all
[18:48] <Walther> and no useful messages in dmesg saying why
[18:48] <lehzeni> I thought cinnamon was only for mint?
[18:48] <exosyst> odra, I'd recommend installing Mint if you want cinammon
[18:48] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: At my Routers Site it shows my Notebook in there :>
[18:49] <odra> Why do I have to change operating systems just to minimize windows with a click on the taskbar!
[18:49] <exosyst> Walther, so what's your output in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:49] <exosyst> odra, It's not changing the OS. It's still Linux.
[18:49] <lehzeni> odra, xfce gives you a taskbar, and it runs fine on ubuntu
[18:49] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: sure. I suspect that your uplink (router <-> Internet) is down
[18:49] <odra> Why do I have to change distros just to minimize windows with a click on the taskbar!
[18:50] <exosyst> odra, Because that's how applications work?
[18:50] <lehzeni> odra, xfce gives you a taskbar, and it runs fine on ubuntu
[18:50] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: http://pastebin.com/mE2vy6WQ
[18:50] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: Wouldn't my other devices then also have no internet access?
[18:50] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: yes
[18:51] <exosyst> odra, If I install Windows with Metro - I expect to install another OS to get Gnome-shell. I don't expect the OS guys to cater for me wanting to do something 'different' and have them support it
[18:51] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: But I have internet access on all my other devices
[18:51] <alienaut> exosyst, can i part video that i riped with handbrake or should i use another program?
[18:51] <exosyst> alienaut, part video?
[18:51] <rikimaru90> Ubuntu for tablets looks really good
[18:52] <lehzeni> exosyst, ubuntu support a variety of dm's
[18:52] <genadi> where can I get help for ubutnu 13.04? for two days now I cant get any response in ubuntu+1
[18:52] <odra> exosyst: You can change desktops in windows :/
[18:52] <odra> I know I have.
[18:52] <exosyst> lehzeni, They don't really support them. They have them as installable packages which is different
[18:52] <Walther> exosyst: the most relevant line is [    13.873] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[18:53] <MasterOfDisaster> does 'ping -c4 192.168.1.1' and 'ping -c4 8.8.8.8' work? Did you mess with iptables, ufw, or any other firewall related stuff?
[18:53] <Walther> which i pasted a bit earlier
[18:53] <MasterOfDisaster> oops, Applesouce: does 'ping -c4 192.168.1.1' and 'ping -c4 8.8.8.8' work? Did you mess with iptables, ufw, or any other firewall related stuff?
[18:53] <lehzeni> semantics, you can get support for xubuntu or kubuntu from ubuntu channels
[18:53] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: Also my Router says, my Notebook is not an active client!
[18:53] <exosyst> odra, lehzeni, and YMMV with regards to installing different DEs to the one being pushed by the distribution.
[18:53] <alienaut> exosyst,  uhmm, i want make new video between 10:00:00 and 18:00:00. sorry about my english
[18:54] <DJones> genadi: Its only #ubuntu+1 for support on 13.04 at the minute, all I can suggest is that you have be patient
[18:54] <exosyst> alienaut, It's probably worth ripping it to something sane and then using pitivi or something to edit it. I've only ripped. Not edited.
[18:54] <Applesouce> And this Site just froze up
[18:54] <computerex> I feel like ubuntu automatically scales mouse input even if acceleration/sensitivity is set to zero
[18:54] <Walther> exosyst: but yeah, any further ideas? :/
[18:55] <alienaut> exosyst, thank you! i will try.
[18:55] <exosyst> Walther, lsmod | grep nvidia
[18:56] <Kartagis> I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[18:56] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: I'm sorry, The IRC-Page froze up, last thing I read was "[19:53] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: Also my Router says, my Notebook is not an active client!"
[18:56] <Walther> exosyst: none. Weird, I saw it building the DKMS module when installing nvidia-current...
[18:56] <exosyst> Walther, possibly failed. Maybe a kernel update happened at the same time?
[18:56] <alienaut> is there another open source video editing program that i can run on windows too.
[18:57] <Walther> exosyst: i ran a reinstall of nvidia-current like 5min ago just to be sure as well, so it shouldn't be that
[18:57] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: does 'ping -c4 192.168.1.1' and 'ping -c4 8.8.8.8' work? Did you mess with iptables, ufw, or any other firewall related stuff?
[18:57] <exosyst> Walther, sudo depmod -a; sudo modprobe nvidia_current
[18:58] <exosyst> Wow - this is like drinking from a firehose lol.
[18:59] <alienaut> oh. i think Video Lan Movie Creator runs both ubuntu and windows!
[18:59] <Applesouce> MasterOfDisaster: I don't have ufw installed and both pings fail. It says it's unreachable
[18:59] <dniw> how come even after downloading and install the nvidia driver it says my graphics card is unknown? :(
[19:00] <exosyst> Walther, you'll want to restart gdm as well
[19:00] <Walther> exosyst: I did reboot the computer a couple times just to be sure with kernel etc
[19:00] <exosyst> Walther, urgh - it's lightdm these days actually, so it's a sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[19:01] <Walther> so it's not even about that :/
[19:01] <fishtech> Hello! My usb is not pickin up at all. I have tried what I could find and those commands don't are saying that it's plug in. Any help, please, thank you.
[19:01] <exosyst> Walther, and you did the depmod line I posted?
[19:02] <MasterOfDisaster> Applesouce: puh - beats me. It's possible that your DHCP client caches a lease. Have you got *any* information in 'dmesg' or /var/log/syslog about this?
[19:02] <exosyst> fishtech, run 'disks' to see if it picks it up in there. It may need formatting or something
[19:02] <Walther> exosyst: fatal: module nvidia_current not found
[19:03] <exosyst> Walther, So... that means you haven't got it installed
[19:03] <exosyst> Walther, problem solved
[19:03] <fishtech> Nothing
[19:03] <Walther> exosyst: but I did install nvidia-current from the repos, and even ran --reinstall when I noticed it wasn't working.
[19:03] <Walther> Problem not solved at all
[19:04] <Walther> "nvidia-current is already the newest version"
[19:04] <fishtech> Well it all started with I had used the usbloader program from opensuse you can download. Put ubuntu on it. Try gparted and it's gone down hill from there.
[19:05] <fishtech> Only options I know I can do it use windows format program, but I want to understand how to do this in linux.
[19:05] <xiambax> Why doesn't ubuntu get into the hardware game
[19:05] <exosyst> Walther, find /lib/modules -name nvidia_current
[19:06] <Walther> exosyst: none, but there are modules just named nvidia
[19:06] <Applesouce> MasterOfDistaster: This is my DMESG -> http://pastebin.com/FkRBSmHg and my syslog -> http://pastebin.com/8Xi4ZQBB
[19:06] <exosyst> Walther, under net/ethernet? Yeah, that's not it.
[19:06] <Walther> exosyst: also under video
[19:07] <exosyst> Walther, oh right - and does the 3.7.X whatever string match that of your uname -a
[19:08] <Walther> yup, 3.5.0-23
[19:09] <Angel> hi, someone here know a lot about apache2?
[19:09] <exosyst> Walther, so you can do an insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko or whatever it was
[19:09] <lehzeni> Angel, a little bit
[19:10] <Angel> you know how I can change permissions so ppl can view my filestructure for a virtual host?
[19:10] <Walther> exosyst: Uh... I just wonder what caused this problem; this should really just work as it has usually done, by installing nvidia-current
[19:10] <escott> !permissions | Angel
[19:11] <exosyst> Walther, I have no idea. I avoid the proprietary drivers for exactly that reason. They're normally a clusterfuck.
[19:11] <Walther> exosyst: i've had the exact opposite experience mostly, usually they just work
[19:12] <exosyst> Walther, did you use gtk-jockey or whatever it is that normally handles it?
[19:12] <atisu> j #gameparty.hu
[19:12] <atisu> br
[19:12] <Angel> ubottu: already made the files read/write for all, but in the browser I get no permission to vieu the files
[19:13] <Walther> exosyst: i thought they got rid of jockey already a while ago
[19:13] <Walther> exosyst: i just "apt-get install nvidia-current" like i've done for loooong time :P
[19:14] <exosyst> Walther, Oh I have no ideas. I've only got to use Ubuntu for work things. I thought the idea these days was to install Additional Drivers from Software Centre, and then run jockey from that dash thing
[19:14] <Walther> exosyst: heh... I think we both are a bit more used to running multiple terminals :P
[19:14] <exosyst> Angel, The permissions you want will be o+r and g+r.
[19:15] <exosyst> Walther, I use terminals a *lot* but I jumped my own systems to Fedora on release of unity. Hence me popping in earlier to ask for help
[19:16] <exosyst> Walther, though i seem to be answering a few more than I planned!
[19:16] <supNow> ikonia, I deleted the folder and am starting from scratch. There's recommended values for the php.ini file and I'm making the changes (editing as root) however it doesn't show them as changed on the pre-install check. I have edited 2 different php.ini files on the system... is there another location ubuntu might have the one it actually uses?
[19:16] <Angel> exosyst, that changes apache permissions?
[19:16] <exosyst> Angel, those are unix file permissions you can set using chmod
[19:16] <Angel> the unix permissions are not the problem, it's the apache permissions that I need :D
[19:16] <exosyst> Angel, You may also need to chown -R apache:apache the directory you want to open up
[19:17] <Quest> hi
[19:17] <Quest> one strange thing . sudo find /var/lib/tomcat7/work/Catalina/localhost/_/ -name '*.java' -ls
[19:17] <Quest> ./var/lib/tomcat7/work/Catalina/localhost/_/org/apache/jsp/mission_jsp.java
[19:17] <Quest>  but find / -name '*.java' -ls  shows .java files only in /var/cache/tomcat7/Catalina/localhost/_/org/apache/jsp/
[19:17] <Quest> why is that?
[19:17] <FloodBot1> Quest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <Angel> chownd and chmodded the dirs. If I type a file name, I get the file, but I can't view the folders in a browser
[19:17] <supNow> exosyst, I thought the default owner and group for apache is www-data:www-data
[19:17] <exosyst> Angel, Apache doesn't really have permissions - it just adheres to the underlying unix file permissions
[19:18] <exosyst> supNow, I think you may well be right - check that Angel
[19:18] <supNow> exosyst, I'm having some permission issues relating to apache as well and it accepted those as default owner/group
[19:18] <jrib> Quest: probably a permissions issue
[19:19] <exosyst> Angel, supNow You can verify with grep "www-data" /etc/passwd
[19:19] <Quest> jrib,  both are with sudo
[19:19] <Walther> exosyst: yeah, i've had the same happen a dozen times... coming here to ask a question, end up answering a dozen
[19:19] <jrib> Quest: pastebin
[19:20] <Walther> guess that's not bad though
[19:20] <jrib> Quest: pastebin full input and output
[19:20] <Quest> k
[19:20] <supNow> exosyst, did you happen to see the question I posted above as you seem to have some knowledge?
[19:20] <supNow> Walther, same here I end up helping and never get mine solved.. lol
[19:21] <jrib> Angel: are you asking about directory indexes in apache?  You need to enable the Indexes option.  #httpd can help you with that
[19:21] <exosyst> supNow, Same. I've still had no reply to mine. Trying to tackle the easier ones that don't require me pulling apart Ubuntuisms :D
[19:21] <klrr> hi, why is there no /etc/profile by default?
[19:21] <exosyst> supNow, No I didn't see your issue
[19:21] <jrib> klrr: there is I believe
[19:21] <Quest> jrib,  http://pastebin.ca/2315709
[19:22] <klrr> jrib: hmm, not in my install 12.04 :/
[19:22] <jrib> exosyst: you can install 12.04 to a usb stick if you want
[19:22] <klrr> jrib: nvm typo
[19:22] <Angel> jrib, httpd.conf is an empty file
[19:23] <exosyst> jrib, I'm trying again. It failed the first time as it didn't write the bootloader and just gave some error about it trying to right to /dev/sda
[19:23] <jrib> Angel: I did not say anything about a "httpd.conf".  #httpd is a channel on this network
[19:23] <Quest> jrib,   well see this one http://pastebin.ca/2315710
[19:23] <jrib> !install | exosyst
[19:23] <Angel> jrib, my bad ;)
[19:23] <klrr> PENIS
[19:24] <Applesouce> MasterOfDistaster: Found anything?
[19:24] <jrib> exosyst: I think there's some documentation there (also /msg ubottu persistence maybe)
[19:24] <supNow> exosyst, my LAMP install is working fine as I have phpmyadmin as well as a joomla site running on a local server. I've been trying to install vtigercrm and have been running into nothing but issues. On the preinstallation check it's showing suggested changes on the php.ini. so I ran a search on the locations and have found 2. I have edited both php.ini files I have found and the results do not show on the preinstallation check
[19:24] <supNow>  from the install.php file of vtiger. /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and etc/php5/cli/php.ini are the 2 locations I've found and neither had any impact. (yes I edited as root)
[19:25] <KingPixel> Is there a channel for help w/ vpn/routing?
[19:26] <jrib> Quest: but I see mission_jsp.java in the output of both commands, no?
[19:26] <exosyst> supNow, sorry but no idea on that one. I am not familiar with vtigercrm. I do know that I ended up having to put a php.ini into my serving directory to get changes picked up by a wordpress install. Maybe you can do similar
[19:26] <k1l> !alis | KingPixel
[19:26] <Quest> jrib,  the path is different
[19:26] <KingPixel> kewl thx
[19:26] <supNow> exosyst, I will try that, thanks
[19:27] <Quest> jrib,  those are 2 different files
[19:27] <skjoedt> Are there any milestones/info on what kernel to expect in Ubuntu 14.04? Will it be 3.6 or will it jump to the most recent (say, 3.8)?
[19:27] <TuxBlackEdo> how do i burn on a single layer of a dual layer dvd? i am burning an livecd to install an os, and it keeps screwing up at about the 50% mark, however all my single layer dvds work. all i have is dual layer dvds, can i just burn a single layer dvd?
[19:27] <k1l> skjoedt: the most recent untill the freeze
[19:27] <KingPixel> TuxBlackEdo, you can not use single layer burner to burn to dual layer. anything over 3.7gb gets put on second layer
[19:27] <k1l> skjoedt: noone can gues what that is gonna be now
[19:27] <jrib> Quest: there's probably a symlink somewhere along one of the paths
[19:28] <exosyst> Screw it. I'll use 10.04 for this. Google is full of how broken 12.04 is in general.. I think i'll avoid inflicting it on my trainees :D
[19:28] <Cyber_Akuma> Would it be feasable to run most non-specialized Ubuntu apps (as in nothing for really heavy graphic work, 3d modeling, photoshop, etc) and games with no swap partition if you have 16 gigs of ram?
[19:28] <LaserShark> but...12.04 isn't broken...
[19:28] <TuxBlackEdo> KingPixel, my iso file is 3.11gb, enough for a single layer, however most burning programs split this 3.1 between the two tracks
[19:28] <skjoedt> k1l, Okay, thanks. Will such kernel be tested and gradually introduced in prior releases? (Say, 13.10)
[19:29] <DJones> exosyst: Don't forget support for 10.04 ends in about 2 months as well
[19:29] <Serene> how to install a folder of jar files
[19:29] <KingPixel> TuxBlackEdo, can't you use a USB key instead of a DVD? physical media is becoming obsolete
[19:29] <skjoedt> k1l, Or is it only long time support releases
[19:29] <exosyst> DJones, hah - the course will be done with by then. I don't need support, just the ability to install to a USB key
[19:29] <k1l> skjoedt: long time support
[19:29] <exosyst> note, that's *to* a USB key, not *from* a USB key
[19:31] <Cyber_Akuma> And if not, would 32gb be feasable?
[19:31] <synmuffin> hey all, i'm running ubuntu server 12.04 and did a apt-get install pdftk however every time i run it i get this error: http://paste8.com/104478
[19:32] <exosyst> synmuffin, libgcj is provided by the GNU Compiler Suite. You may have better luck installing Oracles JVM to run your app with
[19:32] <klrr> hi, how do i make the log in session use my ~/.xsession instead of normal ubuntu?
[19:33] <temporary__> hi, i'm trying to install Steam on Ubuntu 12.04, but i keep getting this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:33] <temporary__>  libgl1-mesa-glx : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.3)
[19:34] <temporary__> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:34] <exosyst> klrr, Does it not work? I don't recall which one runs so might be an idea to link  your .xinitrc to it
[19:34] <synmuffin> exosyst, is that openjdk-7-jre package?
[19:34] <Or6itz> Could someone help me out. How can I zip the contents (files and folders excluding hidden files and folders) of the directory I am currently in via command line?
[19:34] <k1l> klrr: what is the whole issue you try to do?
[19:35] <Cyber_Akuma> anyone?
[19:35] <exosyst> synmuffin, That part I don't know. Not on a ubuntu machine atm, I'd stick with the one from oracle.com
[19:36] <Zentaur> hi
[19:36] <klrr> k1l: i try to use plan9port
[19:36] <rice> Hello
[19:36] <Zentaur> could anybody tell how to disable some services when i boot?
[19:36] <gdoteof> Will Ubuntu for tablets be able to use existing packages in the repos?
[19:36] <exosyst> klrr, How do you know it's not working? Normally it will run either your .xinitrc or .xsession after it's done the defaults.
[19:37] <klrr> exosyst:i mean i have to find a way to make it possible to use my .xsession in the menu of the log in screen
[19:37] <Zentaur> i use 12.04 and i don't want mysql to start (only if i need it)
[19:37] <17WAA6T8S> hello guys
[19:37] <klrr> exosyst: well it does not, ill try .xinitrc too then
[19:37] <temporary__> Or6itz, you could use tar i think
[19:37] <gdoteof> So apps could be developed using Python or Haskell and what not?
[19:37] <exosyst> Cyber_Akuma, If you've got the RAM, then why not?
[19:37] <exosyst> klrr, easiest is to symlink it.
[19:37] <exosyst> klrr, ln -s ~/.xsession ~/.xinitrc
[19:38] <temporary__> Or6itz, "tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz /path/to/backupdir" would probably work
[19:38] <samuel> Anyone know if Ubuntu will work on retina MBP's now that tablets and phones are supported?
[19:38] <samuel> as in the resolution independence bit?
[19:39] <exosyst> samuel, The RI stuff will come from the toolkit. I know Qt and Gtk *can* do it but I'm not sure they're currently built to allow it on Ubuntu
[19:40] <samuel> exosyst: I imagine that it must be soon, I hope, I am fed up with OS X
[19:40] <samuel> but linux does not look very nice on a high resolution display
[19:41] <bkc_> samuel: well, you could set the resolution to something smaller too :)
[19:42] <gdoteof> The Ubuntu for tables and phones, is it the "same" Ubuntu? So I will have a terminal and be able to apt-get install normal packages?
[19:43] <samuel> bkc_: I have done so, but only *some* apps seem to work. Many apps seem to have 96 DPI setting hardcoded.
[19:43] <bkc_> DPI != resolution :)
[19:43] <samuel> gdoteof: I think thats the long term goal
[19:43] <samuel> bkc_: I know, but you get what I mean
[19:44] <bkc_> samuel: yes, regulating the DPI would be the optimal solution for high-res screens :)
[19:44] <Applesouce> Hey, can someone help me here, I have a problem with my WLAN. It's not working anymore :> I can connect and also I get an internal IP adress, but I can not access the network or the internet :/ (Ubuntu 12.10)
[19:44] <gdoteof> Samuel does that imply the first gen will not be?  Like what is set to be available for devs in a couple days?
[19:45] <bkc_> gdoteof: I don't think anyone can answer that before the release, unless Canonical actually said it themselfs :)
[19:45] <samuel> gdoteof: I really don't know. I am guessing from the video and the info available now. Its all going to be clearer in 2 days
[19:45] <synmuffin> :/ this sucks stupid pdftk :/
[19:46] <gdoteof> Bkc_ well someone wrote some code :-).  Thought maybe there had been talk of it
[19:46] <gdoteof> I guess I can wait
[19:47] <gdoteof> I would love top be able top write html5 apps on top of Haskell that run natively
[19:47] <bkc_> samuel: also, most regular apps works against Qt or GTK+, so you have to set the DPI for each toolkit that's used :)
[19:48] <donttrustem_agai> guys, any ideas please http://pastebin.com/b6DyGSd3
[19:48] <bkc_> gdoteof: the youtube-clip speaks of webapps and "native apps", so I'm guessing there will be some kind of package-manager, and my guess is that they won't change it just for the phone/tablet-version :)
[19:48] <bkc_> gdoteof: also, talk about unreleased versions are in a different channel :)
[19:49] <blah> Hi, I am trying to load a driver for my network card on boot. I copied the compiled module to /lib/modules<kernel>/drivers/net, and also added it in /etc/modules as the line "alias eth0 tg3". But this doe not seems to work, it does not load on both .... pls help@
[19:49] <bkc_> !phone > gdoteof
[19:49] <bkc_> !tablet > gdoteof
[19:49] <bkc_> there :)
[19:50] <donttrustem_agai> fixed the problem :)
[19:51] <samuel> bkc_: Actually, in my experience they don't work particularly well, but to be honest I have not tried 13.04
[19:52] <bkc_> samuel: the package-manager is apt for all ubuntu-versions... synaptic/SoftwareCenter are just frontends for apt :/
[19:52] <samuel> ???
[19:52] <bkc_> so unless they the whole thing, it will still use apt as the backend, in otherwords, apt-get will exist :)
[19:53] <bkc_> and since they talk about connecting keyboards and mice, I'm guessing that the terminal won't go away either :)
[19:58] <NullVoxPopuli> Will ubuntu for tablets run Sublime Text? (or any text editor)
[19:58] <bkc_> NullVoxPopuli: if they release an ARM-version it might
[19:59] <NullVoxPopuli> bkc_ do all tablets use ARM architecture?
[20:00] <j0d3> hi
[20:00] <rasha666> is there any way to interfear with canonical as outsider, not like team member, i want to found NGO
[20:00] <Zentaur> does aybody know how to disable a service? I don't want sql to start everytime i boot.
[20:01] <bkc_> NullVoxPopuli: no, it may also run on x86-arch
[20:01] <bkc_> NullVoxPopuli: join #ubuntu-tablet, #ubuntu-phone or #ubuntu-duscuss for questions about ubuntu on tablets/phones :)
[20:01] <NullVoxPopuli> bkc_: do you happen to know what the Nexus devices use off the top of your head?
[20:01] <NullVoxPopuli> oh ok
[20:01] <NullVoxPopuli> :-)
[20:02] <bkc_> Nexus uses ARM
[20:02] <NullVoxPopuli> thanks!
[20:02] <rasha666> is there any way to interfear with canonical as outsider, not like team member, i want to found NGO
[20:03] <bkc_> rasha666: could you elaborate on that one
[20:03] <OerHeks> rasha666, mail them.
[20:04] <ninja-hattori> hello
[20:04] <rasha666> bkc_, i am member of some approved team, but i want to work some things throw my NGO, and i need there support, like with cds .... if u understand.
[20:05] <old_man_winter> quick question the cup holder on my computer will not come out any more how can i fix this
[20:05] <bkc_> old_man_winter: lol :P
[20:05] <OerHeks> old_man_winter, terminal: eject && eject -t
[20:06] <aaas> old_man_winter thats funny. most computers don't come with them anymore because they were always too small for BigGulps
[20:07] <old_man_winter> lol
[20:07] <old_man_winter> now about the credit card slot...,.
[20:08] <old_man_winter> been working tech suport for a couple of friends parents and i had to share
[20:08] <rasha666> bkc_, any idea?
[20:09] <bkc_> rasha666: email them
[20:09] <bkc_> contact-info is on the website
[20:09] <rasha666> bkc_, tnx for suggestion
[20:09] <Pici> rasha666: try #ubuntu-locoteams
[20:10] <old_man_winter> they still had a 3.5 floppy and like 4 credit cards in there
[20:14] <dniw> how come even after downloading and installing the nvidia driver it says my graphics card is unknown? :(
[20:14] <murder101> hello
[20:14] <ozzloy> kwallet has taken over and now i'm having trouble with my svnsyncing.  i disabled kwallet by editing ~/.kde/config/kwalletrc, but i still get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1683924/ when running svnsync.  how do i tell kwallet to bugger off?
[20:15] <murder101> format
[20:15] <old_man_winter> ok  for the real question i am trying to build a full website with media/mailserver intagratedwhat would be the best direction for me to go far from stupid bet even farther from brilant
[20:15] <mmmbud> hello
[20:16] <NotIronic> hello
[20:16] <mmmbud> i have a noob question about ubuntu 13.04
[20:16] <old_man_winter> mmmbud: hello whats up
[20:16] <xangua> !13.04 | mmmbud
[20:16] <old_man_winter> mmmbud: shoot
[20:16] <mmmbud> well i just used the windows installer for it
[20:17] <mmmbud> and when i boot into it i cant login
[20:17] <mmmbud> only to guest and then i cant use a root password
[20:17] <mmmbud> am i missing somthing silly
[20:17] <old_man_winter> wubi(never liked it always had issues) dual boot partition is the way i alwas went
[20:18] <mmmbud> ah damn i gotta find a dvd i guess
[20:18] <old_man_winter> unetbootn no disk and will act like a dvd
[20:19] <celso> can someone tell me the diference of i update my ubuntu 12.04.1 installation or download ubuntu 12.04.2 iso and install it? is it the same thing? Because i heard that update ubuntu 12.04.1 to .2  and download ubuntu 12.04.2 and install it is diferent.
[20:19] <old_man_winter> but i would defintaly stick with 12.04 or 12.10
[20:19] <xangua> celso: you just have to worry about installing the updates
[20:21] <celso> xangua: thanks. just what i need to hear! :D
[20:21] <k1l> celso: the .1 and .2 are like service packs. if you update your 12.04 you already have a 12.04.2
[20:21] <bcbc2> celso: http://askubuntu.com/a/168230/14916
[20:22] <bcbc2> celso: there is a difference
[20:22] <angs> I am connecting a device by screen command. when I am connected to the device, it outputs too much data at time so that I cannot see the first lines. is it possible to save these output on a file or so?
[20:22] <celso> bcbc2: what diferences?
[20:22] <cyanboy> Hi I am having some troubles logging into ubuntu. I get a black screen with a white mouse cursor
[20:22] <celso> k1l : thanks for the link!
[20:22] <bcbc2> celso: check out the link. the kernel stack will not be updated
[20:23] <joelwhitehouse> I have a question, but I don't know where to ask it.
[20:24] <celso> bcbc2: ahhh so it was that! Thanks!
[20:24] <k1l> bcbc2: you are sure the kernelstack wont be upgraded too?
[20:24] <old_man_winter> Kil :I would like to know the diffrences as well mind either posting the link or pming it to me
[20:24] <bcbc2> celso: np. You can update it through backports if you want to
[20:25] <celso> bcbc2: nah... i prefer an new install ;)
[20:25] <mmmbud> hey old_man_winter on unetboot it dosnt have an ubuntu 13.04
[20:25] <Pici> mmmbud: 13.04 is only supported in #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu
[20:25] <bcbc2> k1l: not according to what I have seen. The Edubuntu release notes for 12.04.2 mentioned this as well
[20:26] <mmmbud> oh
[20:26] <mmmbud> thanks
[20:26] <k1l> bcbc2: edubuntu is not lts, iirc
[20:26] <celso> bcbc2: This is a new policy. The decision to have such a updated kernel and Xorg was decided at the 2012 Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) in Oakland.  (that is why i didn't know that)
[20:26] <cyanboy> Can anyone help? It's kind of bothering jerking around in a full screen terminal
[20:26] <bcbc2> k1l: it is now
[20:27] <bcbc2> k1l: wasn't for 10.04
[20:27] <k1l> bcbc2: i think you are mixing backports and upgrades
[20:27] <nichlas> cyanboy: what's wrong with that. That's how i run my RPi :)
[20:27] <celso> cyanboy, what do you need?
[20:27] <old_man_winter> mmmbud: you do have the option of supplying your own iso and i think the nighly is 13.04
[20:27] <cyanboy> When I boot up, I get a black screen with a white cursor on it
[20:27] <bcbc2> k1l: This release is the first to ship with the backported kernel and X stack. This should be mostly relevant to users of very recent hardware. Current users of Edubuntu 12.04 won't be automatically updated to this backported stack, you can however manually install the packages if you want them.
[20:28] <celso> cyanboy, and your pc specs?
[20:28] <bcbc2> k1l: that's from www.edubuntu.org
[20:28] <cyanboy> celso, MacBookPro with i7, Intel HD 4000, 8GB RAM
[20:29] <bcbc2> k1l: this is a better link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[20:29] <Pici> k1l: there is a new package in precise that is installed by default on 12.04.2 installs, but must be opted in for 12.01.1/0 installs, this would be the linux-generic-lts-quantal and xserver-xorg-lts-quantal packages.
[20:30] <k1l> Pici: bcbc2 ok, just found it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[20:30] <celso> cyanboy, and ubuntu version?
[20:30] <joelwhitehouse> Does anyone know where to go with a software design question?
[20:30] <cyanboy> latest, not the LTS
[20:30] <Pici> joelwhitehouse: ##programming perhaps?
[20:31] <celso> cyanboy, you get white screen on live cd or after the ubuntu install?
[20:32] <rasha666> i installed ubuntu server 12.04, and now i have problem. i dont know how to open site on my computer. i have it installed on virtualbox
[20:32] <cyanboy> BLACK, I get grub, then I select ubuntu. The login prompt sound comes, and it is a BLACK screen with a white cursor.
[20:32] <cyanboy> celso
[20:32] <joelwhitehouse> Okay, thanks Pici!
[20:32] <evilbit> rasha666: what do you mean, open a site?
[20:32] <cyanboy> celso, I have also tried reinstalling
[20:32] <rasha666> evilbit, to open in browser
[20:32] <rasha666> or  acces with openssh
[20:33] <rasha666> dont know how to use server
[20:33] <evilbit> rasha666: have you confirmed networking is setup properly?
[20:33] <rasha666> any beginer tut will be fine
[20:33] <rasha666> evilbit, yes my network is good
[20:33] <evilbit> rasha666: so, you can ping things? can you resolve DNS?
[20:34] <rasha666> yes i can ping
[20:34] <rasha666> resolve dns
[20:34] <rasha666> how can i check
[20:34] <rasha666> tht
[20:34] <FloodBot1> rasha666: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <evilbit> rasha666: open a terminal and type:  host www.google.com
[20:35] <roberto_> hi all! i don't find steam in my ubuntu software center ?_?
[20:35] <MartynKeigher> quick one...how do i cahnge directory on a ubuntu terminal?
[20:35] <dniw> i'm so confused, i rebooted after installing updates and now it just hangs on the ubuntu screen with the dots below it :/
[20:35] <rasha666> evilbit, it shows me ip adresses
[20:35] <MartynKeigher> i want to go to a folder called test on the root of the file system
[20:36] <phantomcircuit> i've changed my ethernet card and the device is now eth1
[20:36] <evilbit> MartynKeigher:  cd /
[20:36] <phantomcircuit> how can i clear the persistent names so it goes back to eth0?
[20:36] <MartynKeigher> that takes me the root of the drive?
[20:36] <evilbit> yep
[20:36] <MartynKeigher> cool!
[20:36] <MartynKeigher> thanks
[20:36] <celso> cyanboy, on this link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/  did you selected the mac iso?
[20:37] <cyanboy> mac iso?
[20:37] <celso> cyanboy, because the  image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems.
[20:37] <llutz> phantomcircuit: remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:37] <cyanboy> I'll be bach
[20:37] <celso> cyanboy, maybe its because of that?
[20:37] <rasha666> evilbit, so what can i do?
[20:37] <awktion> celso: i don't suppose you worked at frys?
[20:38] <zykotick9> llutz: will that get automatically recreated?
[20:38] <evilbit> rasha666: what ip address is returned from www.google.com ?
[20:38] <celso> frys?
[20:38] <celso> awktion: frys?
[20:38] <llutz> zykotick9: yes, at next boottime
[20:38] <zykotick9> llutz: thanks.
[20:38] <rasha666> evilbit, 173.194.44.17
[20:38] <awktion> celso: guess not lol; frys electronics ;)
[20:38] <awktion> knew a dood
[20:39] <angs> does arm-linux-gnueabi- toolchain support cpu arm926ej-s?
[20:39] <celso> awktion: looool
[20:39] <rasha666> and few more changed only after last dot
[20:39] <phantomcircuit> llutz, thanks i thought that was the actual rule but i guess not
[20:39] <rasha666> evilbit, and few more changed only after last dot
[20:39] <evilbit> rasha666: that's not a google address... something is wrong... can you post the output to pastebin
[20:39] <llutz> phantomcircuit: you also could edit that file, remove the 2nd entry and change MAC in 1st entry (eth9)
[20:39] <llutz> eth0 *
[20:40] <Rcart> hello there, can I exclude the "main" section from backports? I want updates of my software *out* of main section
[20:41] <celso> well, i have to go. bb
[20:42] <rasha666> evilbit,
[20:42] <rasha666> evilbit, http://pastebin.com/pRp8kmG6
[20:42] <evilbit> rasha666: ok, so if you open a browser and goto www.google.com what happens?
[20:43] <no_gravity> Good Evening! Will ubuntu for tablets provide root access by default?
[20:43] <Pici> !tablet | nevada
[20:43] <Pici> no_gravity: that was for you ^
[20:44] <Pici> Rcart: If you look at the backport line(s) in /etc/apt/sources.list you can take out or add any component, like 'main' or 'multiverse' or whatever.
[20:44] <no_gravity> Pici: its a software for all computer types but not for all irc channel types?
[20:44] <zykotick9> Rcart: you do understand that "main" if the main repo right?
[20:44] <rasha666> evilbit, my server is command line, but in command line browser it opens normaly
[20:44] <Pici> no_gravity: Its a non-released product, we just don't have the knowledge to provide support here.
[20:45] <evilbit> rasha666: I'm confused... what are you trying to do?
[20:45] <Rcart> Pici: thanks. I have all sections there, I just wanted to know if there were no problems =)
[20:45] <no_gravity> Pici: ah, i didnt see its a support channel.
[20:45] <Rcart> Pici: then I'll remove main section. Thank you
[20:46] <rasha666> evident, my server is installed on virtual box, when i installed server i installed LAMP SERVER. now i want to set some kind of web site and start it on my normal system
[20:47]  * riderplus Gooo away
[20:48] <angs> I did "add-apt-repository ppa:germia/archive3 " when I type apt-get update, it outputs " W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/germia/archive3/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found , how can I solve it?
[20:49] <Pici> angs: Are you sure that the ppa you listed provides packages for your Ubuntu release?
[20:49] <nichlas> rasha666: it depends on how you set up the network for the VM. Whether it is a bridge or a nat'ed network.
[20:50] <angs> pici, yeah I noticed that the link is broken
[20:50] <sayd> whats with the output of iftop? i see a bunch of mmmmqqq.. doesnt appear to be a curses app.. at least installing libncurses5-dev didn't help
[20:51] <Korejora> so, I have a dual boot of Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.10 .. I just put a SSD into my computer, and I want to install them both on that, now. If I do that while the installations exist on my HDD, will grub get really confused?
[20:51] <nichlas> angs: possibly the archive you added don't have a quantal build. you should check that.
[20:53] <Applesouce> Hey I have a little problem with my Ubuntu. Wlan stopped working :> It works via cable, it works via bluetooth, but not via wlan. I get an internal ip and I'm listed at the DHCP Clients at my routers site :/
[20:55] <laki> \quit
[20:57] <nichlas> Korejora: i would at least disconnect the old disk when installing. At least windows installer can be very confused if a system already exist on a disk.
[20:59] <confused> ok i have a dvd that has audio files(.wav format) and they  have a lock icon over them wth?
[21:01] <Gbasped> phone
[21:06] <jdukiet> hmmm.....slow
[21:11] <colonelqubit> Ubuntu tablet announcement mentions support for Skype. Will there be support for Jabber/Jingle and WebRTC video chat as well?
[21:11] <marmulak> hey buddies
[21:12] <DJones> !tablet | colonelqubit
[21:12] <colonelqubit> DJones: danke
[21:12] <marmulak> I used the universal pen drive installer to create a usb drive with 12.04.2 image, and when I boot it on my Thinkpad I get the boot menu but when I select any of the boot options it simply beeps and reloads the menu
[21:12] <marmulak> the only thing that actually loads is memtest
[21:13] <murder101> !porn
[21:13] <DJones> marmulak: Did you check the md5 of the iso before you created the liveusb
[21:14] <DJones> !md5 | marmulak
[21:14] <marmulak> DJones: no but I will try that
[21:14] <murder101> he is sorry that he knows nothing about porn
[21:14] <DJones> murder101: Not in here
[21:15] <DJones> marmulak: Sounds like the iso might have been corrupted, check the md5 against what it should be, but you may need to redownload it, if it is, maybe try the torrent download so it gets checked while its downloading
[21:16] <marmulak> DJones: Ah yes, I love torrent
[21:19] <Vreim2K> Why should i not stop using ubuntu?
[21:21] <marmulak> ok so I just did a checksum of the iso and it looks fine
[21:23] <marmulak> maybe the data on the usb is bad for some reason
[21:25] <ciccio> ciao  a  tutti
[21:25] <DJones> marmulak: I'd try remaking the usb stick
[21:25] <marmulak> yeah I just reformatted it
[21:25] <jacklk> Hi, how do I change screen brightness in Ubuntu?
[21:25] <marmulak> I'll try fat instead of fat32, though probably won't make a difference
[21:26] <DJones> marmulak: using usb creator, i just format and then write the image
[21:27] <ciccio> ?lista
[21:27] <DJones> jacklk: which version? 12.10?
[21:27] <DJones> !list > ciccio
[21:27] <nhimself> Hey guys, I'm new to Linux and am thinking about installing Ubuntu on my new Media PC that's going to be arriving tomorrow. Before I do that, I have a question that I'm hoping you guys could help me with
[21:27] <Jutas> in which folder has the files of look and apperience over the themes and icons? i put the folder in those but it's not good enough
[21:28] <jacklk> DJones: yes
[21:28] <DJones> jacklk: If its 12.10, go to system settings and then Brightness and Lock
[21:28] <jacklk> DJones: I don't have system settings
[21:29] <jacklk> I'm using MATE
[21:29] <DJones> jacklk: No idea in that case, probably better asking in the mint channel
[21:29] <jacklk> Mint? Why?
[21:29] <jacklk> MATE is for any distro
[21:30] <DJones> jacklk: Appreciate that, but I thought it was one of the defaults for Mint
[21:30] <jacklk> DJones: okay ty, what DE do you use btw?
[21:30] <DJones> unity
[21:32] <algarroboTgn90> hi?
[21:32] <nhimself> How easy should Ubuntu 12.1 be to set up on a new PC where I just want to use it for streaming from my NAS using XBMC, wireless kb+m, wifi usb card?
[21:33] <GeekSquid> nhimself: pie
[21:34] <nhimself> The last time I gave Linux a shot was like, 12 years ago and it was a pain in the ass to find drivers for most of my hardware. Is that still the case or has most of that been resolved?
[21:34] <PadNet_201> quite easy
[21:34] <DJones> nhimself: I've not long set a machine up running lubuntu with XBMC & didn't have any problems, probably the messiest thing will be wifi & graphics depending on which chipset they are
[21:34] <Rienzilla> theres been vast imporvments in 12 years
[21:34] <Rienzilla> a lot of stuff just works now
[21:34] <nhimself> Awesome, that's really good to hear
[21:35] <DJones> nhimself: Which wifi card & which graphics does the machine have
[21:35] <nhimself> Last question: Is there a tool, like with windows to USB, to move the Ubuntu iso to a USB drive for installation through that media rather than needing a DVD drive?
[21:35] <DJones> nhimself: unetbootin
[21:35] <DJones> !unetbootin
[21:36] <llutz> nhimself: cat foo.iso >/dev/sdX
[21:36] <ShapeShifter499> how may I change my ubuntu username via cli?
[21:36] <nhimself> DJones: Radeon 6310, wireless: Edimax EW-7811Un
[21:38] <nhimself> Alright so for the ubuntu install, I need to first format my usb to Fat32 right?
[21:38] <kbrosnan> not required
[21:38] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: "man usermod "  (-l --login) but make sure you always have a 2nd sudo-account
[21:38] <breaker313> Hi *, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and when I'm starting Chrome (latest Version, 64bit) the system crashes...
[21:38] <GeekSquid> ShapeShifter499: passwd
[21:38] <nhimself> oh really? nice
[21:38] <breaker313> means I've been logged out and I need to login again ...
[21:39] <kbrosnan> nhimself: only thing fat 32 gives you is the ablility to read the drive on windows
[21:39] <kbrosnan> nhimself: which you may or may not care about
[21:39] <nhimself> ah, alright. So unetbootin should work just fine to move this install to the USB
[21:40] <breaker313> Hi *, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and when I'm starting Chrome (latest Version, 64bit) the system crashes...
[21:40] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, you mean I need to create a new user with admin privileges?
[21:40] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: if the account you want to change is the only with admin-priv yes
[21:41] <ciccio> ciao
[21:41] <ciccio> ?lista
[21:41] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: if you change username, sudo might break and you lose admin-privs
[21:41] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, I only have one account and its conflicting when I ssh in to my network from outside (two computers with the same user name running the latest ubuntu 12.10)
[21:42] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: how is that conflicting?
[21:42] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: i have about 12 computers here with the same username
[21:42] <ShapeShifter499> I'm getting connection refused
[21:42] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: that means nothing listening on that port
[21:43] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: that has nothing to do with usernames
[21:43] <PadNet_201> nothing listening on that port
[21:43] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: check port-forwarding, check on those machines "lsof -i :22" if ssh listens at all
[21:43] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, PadNet_201 right now if I ssh using my local lan ip, 10.0.0.1 it works fine, but if I ssh using my public ip as a test it fails with "connection refused"
[21:44] <ShapeShifter499> port 22 is open
[21:44] <PadNet_201> is it in use by another process?
[21:44] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: either your portforwarding is broken, or you haven't enabled "nat loopback"
[21:45] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: if you try to connect to WAN-address from LAN, you router needs nat-loopback (or however they call it on your router) being enabled. else you always get errors
[21:49] <ShapeShifter499> PadNet_201, llutz, right now I'm using my netbook as a wifi router and server up till now it was working just fine.  My iptables config (placed inside of rc.local)  http://pastebin.com/zpunrXGt
[21:50] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: well, there will be iptables-howtos available explaining prerouting for nat-loopback
[21:51] <zorgborg> hi, when i open NoScript FFox ext menu and now with simple things in librecalc, ffox or libreoffice take up 100% CPU along with compiz taking up a fair bit, the screen below the top panel darkens, and it takes forever to revert to normal, what on earth is going on?
[21:51] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: with your ruleset, you cannot conntect from LAN to WAN-IP
[21:51] <marmulak> So my laptop is booting successfully with the 12.04.1 image, not the 12.04.2 image. Either the .2 image itself has a problem or the universal pen drive install is mishandling it
[21:51] <PadNet_201> agreed
[21:52] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, I did it yesterday before I added my voip router into the mix..... maybe thats the issue
[21:53] <ShapeShifter499> the thing is this voip router has no area for ports
[21:54] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: no port-forwarding menu you mean?
[21:54] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: buy something usable
[21:54] <nichlas> or hack it
[21:54] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, before I had it like this    Cable modem ---> netbook wifi ---> other devices     now its    cable modem ---> voip box ---> netbook ---> other devices
[21:55] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: so your netbook doesn't even see the WAN-IP
[21:55] <ShapeShifter499> urgh  I'm thinking no now
[21:56] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: what type/model is your voip-router? check if there is a 3rd party firmware (dd-wrt/openwrt) available for it
[21:58] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, its a weird brand, its called "smart iad"  model 200s
[21:58] <ShapeShifter499> I picked it up somewhere for a buck
[21:58] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: next time better pay 2 bucks...
[21:58] <ShapeShifter499> local thrift shop lol
[22:01] <zorgborg> wow, i completely forgot i asked a question here, must've zoned out, did anyone reply? (cant scroll up in irssi)
[22:02] <DJones> zorgborg: Can't see any reply, have you tried page up to scroll up in irssi?
[22:02] <shwaiil> Q: formating a external hard drive through gpart. Ive got only Primary or External Partition, which one to choose ? Tks
[22:03] <flintser> need help with grub: i cannot boot my windows anymore. i did "lilo -M \dev\sda mbr" and it booted the windows without grub like i wanted, then i went on live-usb and chrooted to my linux partition and did "grub-install". it said something i cant recall (not causing the problem), but the install went through with --force. after that i'm back at the starting point. ubuntu boots but windows does "disk error press ctrl+alt+delete to reboo
[22:03] <PadNet_201> shwaiil, depends on what you're doing
[22:03] <zorgborg> DJones, you are a lifesaver, i never knew you could do that :)
[22:03] <juan__> test
[22:03] <shwaiil> PadNet_201: tks for looking. I just want to backup files etc
[22:03] <flintser> zorgborg: pgup to scroll up in irssi
[22:03] <shwaiil> PadNet_201: its a brand new hard drive
[22:04] <shwaiil> external storage
[22:04] <juancarlospaco> test
[22:04] <DJones> zorgborg: You're welcome
[22:05] <PadNet_201> shwaiil, i'd use primary then
[22:05] <shwaiil> PadNet_201: thank you
[22:05] <AcidRain2012> juancarlospaco: test complete
[22:05] <shwaiil> PadNet_201: Is there a way to do a full backup of the user $HOME  ?
[22:06] <juancarlospaco> AcidRain2012: Thank you for Playing  :P
[22:06] <flintser> need help with grub: i cannot boot my windows anymore. i did "lilo -M \dev\sda mbr" and it booted the windows without grub like i wanted, then i went on live-usb and chrooted to my linux partition and did "grub-install". it said something i cant recall (not causing the problem), but the install went through with --force. after that i'm back at the starting point. ubuntu boots but windows does "disk error press ctrl+alt+delete to reboo
[22:06] <flintser> i'm in kind of hurry with that... :s
[22:07] <PadNet_201> shwaiil, yea read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-274395.html
[22:07] <bcbc2> flintser: check the bootinfoscript, you might have installed grub over the windows bootsector
[22:08] <bcbc2> flintser: that's generally what --force is for
[22:08] <holstein> flintser: i just let grub boot them both
[22:08] <flintser> bcbc2: no idea of how to do that. "grub-install /dev/sda --force" was the command, windows is in /dev/sda1 and ubuntu in /dev/sda5
[22:09] <AcidRain2012> why is everyone having so many problems with grub? ^_-
[22:09] <holstein> flintser: could be as simple as "sudo update-grub" and letting grub "find" the windows install again
[22:09] <bcbc2> flintser: ok /dev/sda should be okay, but usually --force is required only if you install grub to a partition
[22:09] <AcidRain2012> grub first off, sounds like something scary that you shouldnt tamper with.
[22:10] <AcidRain2012> grub sounds like it has something to do with the mbr :) so i sure as hell wouldnt touch it
[22:10] <bcbc2> flintser: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[22:12] <Neo31> Hello folks, I am looking for someone who have some experience with the 3G modem Huawei E173 12d1:1c08 it lights up when connected to the computer and modeswitch seems to work correctly but it does not connect to the network
[22:12] <Neo31> ubuntu version 12.10
[22:13] <leto-> asda
[22:14] <flintser> AcidRain2012: bcbc2: holstein: i had working windows with 750gb hd, i fired up ubuntu install and did manual partitioning and did / and swap at the end of disk. after install grub shows windows and ubuntu, but windows does not boot ("disk error ctrl+alt...."). ubuntu was fine. then i did "lilo -M \dev\sda mbr" from my live-usb to get windows back. it worked. it booted staright in to windows. then i got back in live-usb and did grub-in
[22:14] <brabhamm_> c
[22:15] <AcidRain2012> flintser: the issue comes in where....?
[22:15] <rrva> how to create missing linux/include/version.h without full kernel build? linux-headers package installed but still complains
[22:16] <flintser> AcidRain2012: when the windows wont start?
[22:16] <Matinho> ! lista
[22:16] <flintser> windows just does "disk error"
[22:16] <escott> flintser, why did you start messing around with lilo to begin with?
[22:16] <ni291187> hi I'm having trouble adding an xubuntu menu entry to grub 2, when I try to boot it, it says  hd1 cannot get C/H/S values.
[22:16] <flintser> escott: to get my mbr back so i can start clean.
[22:17] <escott> flintser, back from 1998?
[22:17] <AcidRain2012> lol
[22:17] <flintser> nothing is broke yet, i'm just stuck in this loop where i can start either win or linux
[22:17] <AcidRain2012> flintser: tell me this first. i think your thinking way to hard about it. what use do you have for a windows computer?
[22:17] <juancarlospaco> :)
[22:18] <holstein> flintser: i would install grub, and troubleshoot it, til it boots what you need
[22:18] <AcidRain2012> flintser: this may have something to do with how your drives are connected to the computer? connected as slave or primary?
[22:18] <holstein> flintser: otherwise, maybe a 3rd party bootloader...
[22:18] <PadNet_201> Be back later
[22:18] <escott> flintser, the only reason i have ever heard of having to force grub is if you are putting it on the pbr
[22:19] <ni291187> The boot entry I have is set root=(hd1,5)  linux /vmlinuz   initrd /initrd.img
[22:19] <escott> flintser, you might also verify that your disks are msdos partitioned with "sudo parted -l"
[22:19] <AcidRain2012> escott: good tip. imma do gthat now
[22:20] <flintser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1684576/
[22:20] <lewik_> Hi, I search app for Kubuntu. To manage windows.
[22:20] <AcidRain2012> zomg!!!!! Partition Table: msdos 512kb Seagate FreeAgent Go how did that get in there?!?!?!
[22:20]  * AcidRain2012 formats to ext4
[22:21] <AcidRain2012> actually i wont mess with it. ;)
[22:21] <holstein> lewik_: you want a windowmanager for KDE? what do you want other than what KDE/kubuntu is providing you?
[22:21] <escott> AcidRain2012, ?
[22:21] <escott> flintser, how old is the bios on this machine?
[22:21] <flintser> latest you can get on asus p5n-d
[22:21] <ni291187> anyone have any suggestions for me?
[22:21] <AcidRain2012> that was an output to parted -l
[22:22] <escott> AcidRain2012, but why are you acting so surprised thats a normal looking table
[22:22] <AcidRain2012> flintser: and when was the last time you updated the bios
[22:22] <lewik_> holstein:  No, not window manager =)  I need an app, lie БрщдыеуштЮ дуцшл_Ж нщг цфте ф цштвщцьфтфпук ащк ЛВУ, црфе вщ нщг цфте щерук ерфт црфе ЛВУ.лгигтег шы зкщмшвштп нщг,
[22:22] <flintser> it is the latest, i updated in december, AcidRain2012
[22:22] <lewik_> oops
[22:22] <AcidRain2012> escott: the msdos part threw me off. never seen it before. thought all my drives were ext3/4.
[22:22] <holstein> ni291187: you cant just let grub automatically pick up the installation?
[22:22] <escott> AcidRain2012, thats the table type. msdos/mbr ie not a gpt table
[22:23] <AcidRain2012> flintser: alright. did you see anything off about parted -l cmd?
[22:23] <ni291187> I did but it does not even work.
[22:23] <lewik_> holstein: No, not another manager, I need an app like GridMove (win)
[22:23] <AcidRain2012> escott: i figured it was since the size was 512kb
[22:23] <holstein> ni291187: i would troubleshoot the error.. what was the error?
[22:23] <lewik_> holstein: There are a grid, and I can fit windows in that grid
[22:24] <holstein> lewik_: what functionality are you looking for?
[22:24] <escott> AcidRain2012, well its 512B not kB but again thats normal (as it is hardcoded into windows the 4kB disks emulate 512B mode)
[22:24] <flintser> AcidRain2012: nope, escott just said that verify my disk is msdos, and i pastebinned it
[22:24] <ketterer_> Hello, I have a sd card reader in my hp dv6-6155ca and the card reader is a multicard reader, I have ubuntu 12.10,
[22:24] <holstein> lewik_: a tiling window manager? like awesome?
[22:24] <ketterer_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1684587/
[22:24] <AcidRain2012> escott: :/ your right
[22:24] <lewik_> holstein: tiling, right...    Me google awesome
[22:24] <ni291187> it says cannot get c/h/s value from hd1
[22:24] <holstein> !info awesome
[22:24] <flintser> and the bootinfoscript has been stuck on checkin sda6 for 5 mins now
[22:24] <ketterer_> the paste is lspci output
[22:25] <spence> AcidRain2012, your murdering of homophones means you're in need of help: http://bit.ly/WUzEz5
[22:25] <escott> ni291187, essentially no disks are CHS anymore, everyone is LBA
[22:25] <lewik_> !info awesome
[22:25] <lewik_> holstein:  what is !info ?
[22:26] <holstein> ni291187: so, you have grub installed in a normal instation, that boots, correct? and you added xubuntu and wanted grub to pick it up? correct? then you ran "sudo update-grub" and what was the error?
[22:26] <AcidRain2012> spence: u joking right? this is internet where if i wish to say "hax" over "hacks" or "your" over "you're" or "ur" or "youre" i can
[22:26] <AcidRain2012> !info CHS
[22:26] <ni291187> yes that's hat happens
[22:26] <escott> flintser, so to recap you have what appears to be a perfectly normal disk layout. you probably have EFI but it seems to be booting in bios emulation mode. you installed alongside windows and with lilo (?!?!) installed to the mbr windows boots, with grub installed to the (PBR? MBR?) linux will boot. but windows gives a disk error if booted from grub
[22:27] <ni291187> *what happend
[22:27] <holstein> ni291187: you didint manually add it then?
[22:27] <lewik_> holstein: no, i think awesome not at all i want.  GridMove: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQp9GbqNVWY
[22:27] <spence> id10t
[22:27] <escott> flintser, my suggestions would be (a) use syslinux instead of lilo or just get windows booting and ask it to fixmbr to get you back to a normal traditional MBR. then make sure when you install grub in the chroot that you are installing to the MBR not the PBR
[22:28] <ni291187> well I tried to manually add it after the automatic one didn't work.
[22:28] <flintser> argh i've got nowhere on my issue yet :/ do i have any hope trying this? http://www.helyar.net/2010/fix-windows-7-mbr-after-grub/
[22:28] <holstein> ni291187: undo what you have done.. run the automatic one again , and lets go from there
[22:29] <ni291187> ok I'll do that one sec.
[22:29] <escott> holstein, that will put the windows loader onto the mbr (and remove lilo)
[22:29] <holstein> lewik_: i would ask in #kubuntu, since i have only done that in gnome2 with compiz
[22:29] <escott> holstein, sorry. meant for flintser
[22:29] <escott> flinster, that will put the windows loader onto the mbr (and remove lilo)
[22:30] <holstein> escott: no worries
[22:30] <flintser> escott: wont grub-install /dev/sda install it in to the mbr? when mounted sda5 into /mnt and chrooted into that.
[22:30] <escott> flintser, my main question is what was this error that your --force'd with grub-install
[22:30] <flintser> sda5 is my linux install
[22:30] <holstein> lewik_: http://linuxology.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/yes-we-can-kde-aero-snap-like/
[22:30] <flintser> escott: i think not, but i must investigate
[22:31] <lewik_> holstein: no... Aerosnap contains grid with two cells, I need much more and I want tune them
[22:31] <flintser> escott: i dont have efi
[22:32] <escott> flintser, you said it was a new laptop though. so you probably have efi, but it seems to be booting in bios mode so i dont see any evidence that efi is a problem here
[22:32] <flintser> escott: never said that :) this is desktop pc from -08
[22:33] <Neo31> Hello folks, I am looking for someone who have some experience with the 3G modem Huawei E173 12d1:1c08 it lights up when connected to the computer and modeswitch seems to work correctly but it does not connect to the network on Ubuntu 12.10
[22:33] <flintser> with asus p5n-d motherboard
[22:33] <ni291187> O the error it gives is " no such device" then the uuid for the partition. and The partition does exist, and that is the correct uuid
[22:34] <MartynKeigher> hey. at work we have a ubuntu server and its been added to out domain. how can i elevate my ssh session to it to sudo?
[22:34] <MartynKeigher> im using winscp.
[22:34] <MartynKeigher> help would be appreciated. thanks.
[22:34] <escott> flintser, ok. i misread "latest you can get on asus p5n-d"
[22:34] <escott> flintser, i do wonder if that bios would have problems booting late into the disk. you are able to boot linux in some form though right?
[22:35] <escott> MartynKeigher, elevate your session? you just ssh in and then "sudo command"
[22:36] <MartynKeigher> how owuld i do that in winscp?
[22:36] <flintser> as i said, before any ubuntu touched this machine i had working win7. i installed ubuntu and win7 stopped working. i created lilo mbr to boot back in windows but it overrides grub. then i reinstalled grub and my situation is now the same as when i first installed ubuntu, escott
[22:36] <flintser> i am now in the working ubuntu
[22:37] <ketterer_> if a driver is installed for something but the something is not connected does it show up in ispci?
[22:37] <holstein> lewik_: i would just check with a KDE or kubuntu specific channel then..
[22:37] <bcbc2> flintser: how's that bootinfoscript coming?
[22:37] <flintser> stuck on searchin information from sda6 for 10 mins at least
[22:37] <ejv> flintser: dual boot configurations are well documented in the Ubuntu community documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[22:38] <bcbc2> flintser: that's not right... some issue there
[22:38] <escott> flintser, and when you reinstalled grub what command did you use?
[22:39] <ni291187> holstein did you see my error now.
[22:39] <ejv> MartynKeigher: it's suggested you download an SSH/Telnet client like Putty (free); however you can open a terminal through WinSCP by navigating to Commmands > Open Terminal; or typing [Ctrl] + [T]
[22:41] <flintser> grub-install /dev/sda --force, and yes i know the force could have been the issue. i used it to skip error will not continue with blocklists
[22:41] <escott> flintser, ok there must not be enough space after the mbr
[22:42] <flintser> escott: and that means what?
[22:42] <kochmen> Hej
[22:43] <kochmen> Mam problem pomoże ktoś?
[22:43] <DJones> !pl | kochmen
[22:43] <kochmen> I have problem.
[22:43] <kochmen> help me
[22:44] <escott> flintser, grub2 has two stages more or less. the initial bootloader reads data out of the mbr and then finds additional data usually placed just after the mbr. It then uses that code to find and read the partition containing /boot at which point it can get all the modules and present the menu
[22:44] <Duke_> kochmen: what problem?
[22:44] <kochmen> My Flash on Chromium i dead
[22:45] <Duke_> kochmen: only in chromium? other browsers?
[22:45] <kochmen> and on Mozilla
[22:45] <escott> flintser, the blocklists indicates that there is insufficient space between the MBR and windows causing grub to use blocklists whcih other programs (ie windows) might inadvertently destroy
[22:45] <kochmen> Egiphany and Midori
[22:45] <kochmen> I install Flash
[22:45] <kochmen> but not work.
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> kochmen: How did you install it?
[22:46] <flintser> escott: so ineed to do what?
[22:46] <Duke_> kochmen: hm... every flash or a flash from a specific page?
[22:46] <escott> flintser, i suspect you have something installed on windows like a Adobe Creative Suite or a Video Game DRM that is storing information in the space just after the mbr. grub sees this and tries not to step on it, but then has to do things that make grub not work correctly or inadvertently damage the windows partition
[22:46] <juancarlospaco> kochmen: rebooted the pc?, deleted all the caches ?
[22:46] <Strav`> Hi. I'm looking for a cross-platform tagging software that would allow to: 1. quickly tag any type of files, 2. have a client/server architecture so that the tag database is shared amongst multiple clients (so that it won't need to be reconstructed everytime), 3. is able to extract existing meta-data (music id tags for instance) and provide this as a basis for further tagging. 4. let's you quickly search the tag database and optionally
[22:46] <Strav`> export the search result to a playlist or simply let you enqueue the result in a media player. Is there any software that does this?
[22:46] <bcbc2> flintser: use easyBCD
[22:47] <Dead-Pixel> Running ubuntu in a VM using workstation 9. Playing songs in rhythmbox sounds distorted like a metric is overloaded such as CPU but it isn't.
[22:47] <Dead-Pixel> started recently
[22:47] <ejv> offly ambitious of you
[22:47] <ejv> s/offly/awfully/g
[22:47] <kochmen> I rebooted my PC
[22:47] <flintser> bcbc2: it is win software?
[22:48] <kochmen> No! I install this software on Tweak
[22:48] <bcbc2> no I'll find you a link. Basically it adds an entry to the Windows boot manager to boot Ubuntu
[22:48] <kochmen> I need Wine.
[22:49] <kochmen> Emulator of Win software
[22:49] <escott> flintser, i would ask in #grub. i would also get that exact error message (if you are in linux right now just do: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda")
[22:49] <bcbc2> flintser: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu
[22:49] <escott> flintser, i want to know why it thinks you should force
[22:49] <escott> Dead-Pixel, "a metric is overloaded"?
[22:49] <Strav`> ... Btw, I'm asking here because the server would have to run on a ubuntu based NAS.
[22:50] <juancarlospaco> Strav`: Nepomuk can do that, maybe Zeitgeist
[22:50] <kochmen> command not found
[22:50] <Strav`> juancarlospaco: Nepomuk has a client/server arch?
[22:51] <bcbc2> flintser: and by the way, lilo works fine the way you're using it. You can replace it with the windows bootloader, but I've never had a problem using it
[22:51] <juancarlospaco> sort of Strav`
[22:51] <Trader> g'day all
[22:51] <juancarlospaco> you can use remote stuff as local Strav` including its tagz
[22:51] <flintser> bcbc2: well it IS windows software. can i do the lilo and then boot in windows and then easybcd? because atm windows isnt working
[22:51] <Trader> never used irc before.. but im working on a very complex project in linux so i thought i could use some help
[22:52] <bcbc2> flintser: yes
[22:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | Trader
[22:52] <Strav`> juancarlospaco: at the very least, I need the client side to be cross-platform (for I'll have windows and linux clients connecting to the tag db)
[22:53] <Trader> r u able to make virtual box full screen or is it always going to be small
[22:53] <kochmen> I need Wine
[22:53] <juancarlospaco> KDE is crossplatform
[22:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Trader: Use the host key + F (default host key is right Ctrl)
[22:53] <Trader> thank you
[22:53] <Strav`> juancarlospaco: anyways, thanks I'll read a little on nepomuk and zeitgeist
[22:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Trader: If you're looking for help with VBox itself, though, head for #virtualbox
[22:54] <Trader> ok will do thank u
[22:54] <juancarlospaco> I dunno if zietgeist can, Nepomuk is more capable Strav`
[22:55] <juancarlospaco> Zeitgeist not crossplatform Strav`
[22:55] <Trader> is there a way to join multiple channels on here? never used this before. sorry for the dumb question
[22:55] <Dead-Pixel> escott, I gave an example of what I meant by saying CPU metric...
[22:55] <Dead-Pixel> Running ubuntu in a VM using workstation 9. Playing songs in rhythmbox sounds distorted like a metric is overloaded such as CPU but it isn't.
[22:55] <kochmen> I win! I find the Wine :D
[22:55] <escott> Dead-Pixel, i dont know what you mean by "a metric is overloaded"
[22:56] <Dead-Pixel> a PC metric like CPU, RAM
[22:56] <Malsasa>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579    <<<   How to Write Correct copyright File?
[22:56] <Dead-Pixel> overloaded = 100% usage
[22:56] <escott> Dead-Pixel, and why would that have a sound?
[22:56] <Dead-Pixel> do you know how an overloaded CPU acts on a PC when trying to perform operations?
[22:56] <Trader> #virtualbox
[22:56] <_DomY-Dom> Hello, GRUB on my Ubuntu dedicated server broke. I essentially accessed my   server in rescue mode (netboot) and mounted my partition, and then did these   commands in succession http://bpaste.net/show/goOmMSVMFAcpd8XzA0h1/ ; what do I   do now exactly ?
[22:56] <Trader> how do i join that
[22:56] <escott> Dead-Pixel, i dont need to look at "free -m" i can hear that my ram is at 59% usage
[22:56] <Dead-Pixel> the problem is my sound is being distorted LIKE a metric was being overloaded such as CPU, but no metric is overloaded. My sound is messed up
[22:57] <DJones> Trader: Type "/join #virtualbox" without the quotes
[22:57] <Trader> thank you
[22:57] <shwaiil> Q: I need to send my Hard-Disk for replacement / warranty. My system is set the path to /home under this HDD. My main is a SSD. The Hard drive is going to take  1 week to get here, I wonder what I should do meanwhile ? Is there a way to move the $HOME to the primary hard drive the SSD ?!?! Tks
[22:58] <escott> Dead-Pixel, you keep saying the same thing. describe it. is it cutting out, is it the wrong pitch or cadence? what?
[22:58] <dan770> hi guys, I'm a little new to ubuntu and I have some questions.
[22:58] <bcbc2> flintser: yes it runs in Windows - I was thinking Microsoft when you asked ;)
[22:58] <Dead-Pixel> like it is played in slow motion
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> dan770: Ask up!
[22:58] <Dead-Pixel> 1s = 2s or so it seems
[22:59] <Dead-Pixel> shwaiil,  sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m
[22:59] <Dead-Pixel>           this moves home directory and files to new location, and updates system file that stores location of home dir
[22:59] <escott> Dead-Pixel, is the pitch correct?
[22:59] <dan770> well you see right now, I'm running it from a flash drive. I'm running that newest version you had to download on the website. I've tried to permanently install it over and  over, but everytime it tells me to restart and when I do, it acts like there's nothing on the hard disk
[22:59] <Dead-Pixel> how would pitch be correct if song is being played in slow mo at intervals?
[22:59] <dan770> that is it keeps just booting up like new from the flash drive
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> dan770: Take out the flash drive.
[23:00] <Dead-Pixel> lol dan when it reboots are you just booting again to the flash drive?
[23:00] <shwaiil> Dead-Pixel: Thanks a lot for looking! If I want to read more about that, I should take a look into usermod -d ?
[23:00] <Dead-Pixel> shwaiil, yes, specifically the -d argument in usermod
[23:00] <shwaiil> Dead-Pixel: thanks ; )
[23:01] <dan770> oh are you saying because i still have it set to run from a flash drive that's why that's happening?
[23:01] <escott> Dead-Pixel, shwaiil that command needs a username at the end of ti
[23:01] <Dead-Pixel> yes because you are booting to the flash drive dan
[23:01] <dan770> lol yea that makes sense..
[23:01] <Dead-Pixel> escott, yeah idk his username tho, he has the command he can man it :)
[23:01] <dan770> well let me take out the flash drive reboot and see what happens
[23:01] <dan770> if not i'll be back..lol
[23:01] <Dead-Pixel> aiight dan
[23:01] <dan770> thanks anyway.
[23:01] <IboS> hello
[23:02] <IboS> in a file server what component is more used ?
[23:02] <Dead-Pixel> the files XD
[23:02] <Dead-Pixel> haha
[23:02] <Dead-Pixel> trick question... nailed it
[23:02] <IboS> the hard drive the ram or the processor ?
[23:02] <Dead-Pixel> hard drive
[23:02] <escott> IboS, it really depends on the usage patternss
[23:02] <IboS> cool i suceed my exam
[23:02] <Dead-Pixel> just say hard drive assuming it's a file SERVER
[23:03] <escott> IboS, if everyone keeps requesting the same files maybe it could all fit in ram and the disks are irrelevant
[23:03] <IboS> i answered the hard drive
[23:03] <Dead-Pixel> assume file server escott so it would be written to as well
[23:03] <shwaiil> Dead-Pixel: Can I use GParted to do it through the Graphical interface ?
[23:03] <escott> Dead-Pixel, like i said it depends on the usage patterns
[23:03] <Dead-Pixel> shwaiil, you are not re-partitioning any disk... you are changing user properties for the account
[23:04] <Dead-Pixel> escott, yeah but it was a hugely generic question... for his exam apparently haha
[23:04] <shwaiil> Dead-Pixel: oh yeah truth : D
[23:04] <Dead-Pixel> p.s. cheater!
[23:04] <FluxD> Hi, I am having a stupid networking issue, and I don't know why. One of my sites when I traceroute from home, it hits the site in 1 hop, no packet loss but the site doesn't load when I visit it. Any other location it loads fine, and has multiple hops in traceroute. Ideas?
[23:04] <Dead-Pixel> is the site on the interweb machine fluxd?
[23:04] <Dead-Pixel> are you accessing via IP or hostname
[23:05] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, on my hope I accessed using ip and hostname, dead on both
[23:05] <FluxD> home*
[23:05] <Dead-Pixel> is the site you are trying to access on the internet, or on a private network
[23:06] <Dead-Pixel> does the ip start with 10.x or 172.x or 192.x ?
[23:06] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, internet
[23:06] <Dead-Pixel> check your DNS server for resolution to that host, check your firewall/NAT for resolution to that IP
[23:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Typically 192.168.X.X is a Cisco/Linksys router, and 163.11.X.X is a Meru one.
[23:07] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, it starts with 88, and it is public for sure, not private
[23:07] <Dead-Pixel> can you ping the IP? does the server accept ICMP requests?
[23:08] <Dead-Pixel> if you can ping then you are reaching it layer 3 of the OSI
[23:09] <Dead-Pixel> FluxD, if you can ping the IP of your site, then you are reaching it and you are troubleshooting layer 4-7 of OSI for why your page is not loading
[23:10] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, ping works fine too
[23:10] <Dead-Pixel> ok then no need to use trace route if pings go through
[23:10] <Dead-Pixel> you can reach the site
[23:10] <Dead-Pixel> you need to find out why it is not loading, what protocol is it using, if it is obscure protocol/port you might need to configure your client firewall
[23:10] <dwatkins> What controls which services start and stop at boot-time, i.e. which symlinks exist in /etc/rc2.d (assuming default runlevel of 2), please?
[23:11] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, I am not using any firewall, just a router
[23:13] <Dead-Pixel> FluxD, what is the site, just an http page on port 80?
[23:13] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, unfortunately, I cant share url but yes
[23:13] <alex_M> give us the ip or the url plz
[23:14] <lewik_> ShalokShalom: nop ... Not that app =)
[23:14] <n-iCe> what can I use to burn a movie to make it play on my home dvd?
[23:14] <n-iCe> I don't care about menus or anything I just want it to play it
[23:14] <Dead-Pixel> FluxD, is this an IIS server? does it use authentication?
[23:14] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, , nope simple lamp server
[23:14] <FluxD> It works from all other locations except my home
[23:14] <Dead-Pixel> can you access through other networks or proxies like tor?
[23:15] <lewik_> Any one know app that can more than QuickTile?  More places and freedom to set them for windows?
[23:15] <FluxD> Dead-Pixel, yep with no problems on IP and hostname
[23:15] <Dead-Pixel> sounds like a security restriction through either software/hardware firewall blocking that traffic from the server
[23:15] <Dead-Pixel> or misconfigured DNS
[23:15] <alex_M> maybe you need to go to router setting and port forward   or perhaps make sure that the directory the file is in has proper permissions
[23:16] <weox> hello , how can i found which is the latest version of unity package on ubuntu official repos ?? ( i am on another distro , and thats cause )
[23:16] <Dead-Pixel> even if you go http://ipaddress, the return communication is through hostname based off your scripting, but you should load "something" by doing http://ip
[23:16] <genii-around> !info unity
[23:17] <genii-around> weox: See the bot's answer above
[23:17] <weox> genii-around : thanks
[23:18] <holstein> n-iCe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3617/how-do-i-create-a-movie-dvd
[23:20] <weox> !info kdevelop
[23:20] <weox> genii-around : it say's quantal , can i install that version on 12.04 ??
[23:21] <genii-around> !info unity precise
[23:21] <genii-around> weox: I doubt it
[23:22] <flintser> escott: paste.ubuntu.com/1685019
[23:22] <holstein> weox: the latest version of ubuntu will have the latest version of unity
[23:23] <InFlames> can someone help me setup apache2 virtual hosts on 12.04?
[23:23] <InFlames> i always get permission denied in the browser
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> InFlames, did you remember to [ sudo ]?
[23:23] <InFlames> sudo where?
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, over the Web?
[23:24] <InFlames> i mean you can't reload the server without it, and i don't think you can get the site enabled without it
[23:24] <InFlames> yea from browser
[23:24] <InFlames> from simply localhost even, still get access denied
[23:24] <holstein> InFlames: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/13PermissionDenied
[23:24] <weox> holstein : i consider switching to ubuntu from my arch linux (i am 2 years arch user) , but in arch i have latest package , i know ubuntu is not rolling release , but some package is important for me , i have 12.10 ubuntu iso . if i install it , can i install latest unity from official repos ? or should just waiting next major release of ubuntu ??
[23:24] <juancarlospaco> :)
[23:24] <InFlames> 403
[23:25] <ejv> question, what's the command line name of Gnome's Disk Utility application? I want to start it from the terminal.
[23:25] <holstein> !ppa | weox
[23:25] <SonikkuAmerica> weox: The latest version ( - devel ) of Unity is ALWAYS in the latest version of Ubuntu.
[23:25] <juancarlospaco> baobab ?
[23:25] <weox> holstein : that is quastion , for installing unity 6.12 , should i install it from ppa , or official repos ?
[23:25] <holstein> weox: you can either deal with the security updates, and stay where you are.. add a PPA, or maintain your own upgrades.. or move on to the next versions
[23:26] <escott> flintser, LDM is microsoft logical disk manager and is the source of your problems
[23:26] <holstein> weox: there is no "should".. only what you want to do
[23:26] <holstein> weox: there are pros and cons with both.. as im sure you know
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> ejv: GNOME's disk utility...
[23:27] <juancarlospaco> !info baobab
[23:27] <holstein> ejv: you mean, gparted?
[23:27] <ejv> correct, there's a disk utility, called: Disk Utility, no not gparted.
[23:27] <juancarlospaco> !info gparted
[23:27] <ejv> not gparted fellas
[23:27] <flintser> escott: what to do then?
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> ejv: palimpsest?
[23:28] <shwaiil> Q: In need to move $HOME. Been  told about  "sudo usermod -dm /path/to/new/home username", what if I need to change partition ? Basically I had a partition just for $HOME in a hardrive thats damaged now. Tks
[23:28] <escott> flintser, i dont know but thats the problem
[23:28] <weox> holstein . i think you dont understand my quasten , my question is today if i done like this : apt-get install unity . it install 6.12 (quantal) or older version ?
[23:29] <weox> without any ppa !!
[23:29] <holstein> weox: you get the latest version that comes with whatever release you are running
[23:29] <holstein> weox: if you want newer, you have to get it yourself
[23:29] <holstein> weox: what is the most current for 12.10?
[23:29] <holstein> !info unity
[23:29] <weox> holstein : ok . i get that point !!
[23:30] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody can help me in packaging? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579 <<< How to Write Correct copyright File?
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> weox: Not recommended, but if you want an older version, use [ sudo apt-get install unity:$VERSION ] where $VERSION is the older version.
[23:30] <holstein> weox: so, in ubuntu 12.10, sudo apt-get install unity gets you that version ^^ 6.12.0 ..unless you do something to get a newer one... it will be that version, and security updates for the 18 month cycle..
[23:31] <Whups> Hi.  12.04(64 bit).  I did a bad thing. :)  I deleted all but memtest from /boot.  How can I get a kernel back in there?  I am on a live distro right now...thanks!
[23:31] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein/weox: Like upgrade to Raring. But don't do it if you don't wanna get your hands dirty.
[23:31] <holstein> i would /join #ubuntu+1 for raring 13.04
[23:31] <InFlames> holstein, thanks a lot, that fixed it, was broken for so long
[23:32] <holstein> InFlames: cheers!
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: So would I. But I haven't used Raring for a while.
[23:32] <InFlames> now to get php to work, for some reason it's failing
[23:32] <InFlames> seems to be uncommented in the modules
[23:33] <juancarlospaco> im 13.04 is stable
[23:33] <holstein> #ubuntu+1 is where 13.04 discussion goes
[23:33] <Whups> Hi.  12.04(64 bit).  I did a bad thing. :)  I deleted all but memtest from /boot.  How can I get a kernel back in there?  I am on a live distro right now...thanks!
[23:33] <holstein> !patience | Whups
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Whups: Don't empty your trash... oh wait, you rebooted?
[23:34] <Whups> yeah.. all done. :P
[23:34] <juancarlospaco> Whups: try chroot into / reinstall grub2
[23:34] <Whups> I backed up so it isnt dire. :)
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Whups: ^^
[23:34] <Whups> grub loads.. just memtest.. there is no kernels in /boot
[23:34] <Whups> i accidentally deleted them
[23:34] <holstein> copy it over from you backup... copy from a running system.. reinstall
[23:35] <Whups> i know i am close.. just dont know how to get kernel files into /boot via terminal
[23:35] <mgolisch> chroot into the install and reinstall ?
[23:35] <PadNet_201> mv command
[23:35] <holstein> Whups: ? sudo mv them
[23:36] <Muadabi> hello how can i remove the left side bar ? :D
[23:36] <Whups> holstein: yes but where on the web can i wget kernels for 12.04 64 bit?
[23:36] <holstein> Whups: the repos.. your backups.. the live CD.. another install
[23:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Whups: If you have a live system booted right now, why bother?
[23:36] <PadNet_201> Muadabi, what left sidebar?
[23:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Muadabi: If you're talking Unity, it's staying put.
[23:37] <Whups> SonikkuAmerica: the distro i booted live from isnt the same i have installed.. its 10.10
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !10.10 | Whups, you know this right?
[23:37] <Whups> of course i do.. its all i had laying around
[23:37] <juan_> Hi guys
[23:37] <Whups> i just need to know where i can wget the 12.04 64 bit kernel from is all
[23:38] <juan_> any can help me with one question?
[23:38] <holstein> !ask | juan_
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Whups: You'll probably want to just grab what's important, install 10.10 and [ do-release-upgrade ] until you get to at least Oneiric.
[23:38] <Whups> n.m i think i found it. :)    http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-precise/
[23:38] <Whups> SonikkuAmerica: no way. :)
[23:39] <juan_> I'm use Ubuntu 12.04.2 (recently installed.. with clean installation)
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Whups: Well not now that you've found a kernel to [ wget ]
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: Yes?
[23:39] <juan_> is recomendable install the package called "laptop-mode-tools"?
[23:39] <Whups> yeah i might be good.. just gota find the 64 bit ones.... thx tho
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: If you have a laptop...
[23:40] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica_: yes!
[23:40] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica_: Lenovo G460L
[23:40] <holstein> Whups: thats a mainline kernel.. i would keep trying til you find *exactly* the kernel that was in there
[23:41] <Whups> holstein: how would i got about finding it?
[23:41] <Whups> also, i know i was 1 revision behind yesteray's 12.04 64 bit release
[23:41] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: what do this package?
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: I dunno though... I would've thought there were better tools... their Web site only mentions !6.10.
[23:41] <Whups> nevermind.. 3.2.0.37
[23:42] <holstein> Whups: this might help http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/
[23:42] <juan_> wait a moment... my native alnguage is spanish
[23:42] <Whups> thx again folks
[23:42] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: You're doing fine with English, but if you want to go to the Spanish channel, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:42] <holstein> juan_: i would install it, if you want to try it, and remove it if it doesnt help
[23:42] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: sure
[23:42] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172391/is-laptop-mode-tools-still-relevant-for-12-04-and-the-3-x-kernels <<< Check out that link on StackExchange
[23:43] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: but is better the original channel(this channel)
[23:43] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[23:43] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: I'd say the Spanish sector has good support (it's based out of Spain)
[23:43] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: wait while read the post
[23:43] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: OK
[23:44] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: apart is better practice my english ;)
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: Good idea :)
[23:44] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: yes!
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: Maybe I should practice my Spanish skills though.
[23:44] <Whups> holstein: ok now that i have what i need in /boot.  when i run update-grub how can I know that the update will patch the / of the directory i need fixed?>
[23:45] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: bueno seria una buena idea!
[23:45] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[23:46] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: understund?
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Si
[23:47] <PadNet_201> nein
[23:47] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: great!
[23:47] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: another question
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Go ahead
[23:47] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: what is de "pm-utils"?
[23:47] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: someone idea?
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: Head for #ubuntu-es and I'll tell you about it in Spanish.
[23:48] <juancarlospaco> !info pm-utils
[23:48] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: ok
[23:48] <holstein> Whups: i didnt think you had broken grub.. i was thinking if it were me, i would just put the files i removed back
[23:49] <shwaiil> I'm doing "cmp fileA fileA.bak" but nothing is returned. I wonder why ?
[23:49] <juancarlospaco> cp
[23:49] <juancarlospaco> cp --verbose source dest
[23:49] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: first time... view Ubuntu change the other version of kernel (ubuntu 12.04 use the 3.5 now!)
[23:50] <shwaiil> juancarlospaco: not sure if that was for me but Im trying to compare two files, with cmp
[23:52] <juancarlospaco> ah nvm
[23:52] <escott> shwaiil, silence is success
[23:52] <shwaiil> escott: thanks again : )
[23:53] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: i'm looking for the ArchWiki
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> The ArchLinux Wiki won't help...
[23:55] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll be back....
[23:55] <Whups> holstein: ok thanks
[23:56] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: sure... but investigate for what is the "laptop-mode-tools"
[23:56] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: is a power saving tools
[23:56] <juancarlospaco> !info laptop-mode-tools
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: It's a power management module. / Es un modulo de control de poder.
[23:57] <Guest62557> hi
[23:57] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: then not usefull... buen Español!
[23:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest62557, hello
[23:58] <Papayou> Hello !
[23:58] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: good.... bye friend!... thanks for all!
[23:58] <Papayou> Sometime when I launch my lubuntu, the screen stay unpowered (black, no backlights) what log files could help me find what's going on ?
[23:59] <SonikkuAmerica> juan_: You're welcome. / De nada.
[23:59] <Guest62557> im banned from backtrack-linux but i dont know why ,can somebody help me please?
[23:59] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: translation?
[23:59] <escott> !backtrack | Guest62557
[23:59] <juan_> SonikkuAmerica: tu eres bienvenido... de nada
[23:59] <juan_> :D
[23:59] <bswartz> Does anyone know how to tell what version of mythtv is included with Ubuntu 12.04? Where can I do to find this out?
[23:59] <genii-around> escott: Not much help if it just tells them to go to a channel they're banned from ;)