| luciano | hello | 03:54 |
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| contrapunctus | Hey folks, can someone please help me out? The taskbar/systray has disappeared and is not coming back after a reboot either! o.o' | 06:43 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, with ubuntustudio???? | 06:44 |
| SzArAk | zequence: opensource amd drivers works perfectly with lowlatency kernel, but in my current setupp it fails to switch to the other (stronger) graphics card. I found some bugs opened for similar cases. | 06:46 |
| contrapunctus | Yup, cfhowlett, ubuntuStudio o.o | 06:48 |
| SzArAk | zequence: so i thought i could have both after switching to fglrx - good graphics performance for gaming and nice jackd environment, but it occured that in my current situation fglrx is a mess. | 06:48 |
| SzArAk | zequence: thankfully i'm not much of a gamer :) jackd is more important :D | 06:48 |
| contrapunctus | cfhowlett Thankfully I know quite a lot of things from the CLI, but not _everything_ :\ | 06:54 |
| contrapunctus | One does need the taskbar/systray for some stuff =\ | 06:55 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, pretty sure that's a xfce service need a kick in the pants .... | 06:55 |
| packetfrog | xfwm4 ? | 06:57 |
| cfhowlett | I think so. so service-restart | 06:58 |
| packetfrog | xfwm was what hid from me yesterday. ;/ | 06:58 |
| packetfrog | I use a panel for my systray though. | 06:58 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, task bar is a quick and convenient shortcut. ALL functionality is also in the CLI and the menu system | 06:59 |
| contrapunctus | I tried xfwm4 and xfce4-panel | 07:00 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, try this. logout. select a different session and login. then go back to US ... | 07:01 |
| contrapunctus | Hm...do you know how I can switch the power manager from normal to presentation and back from the CLI? | 07:01 |
| contrapunctus | Ima try that too. | 07:01 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, one issue at a time plz | 07:02 |
| contrapunctus | I assure you, this is related - it's perhaps the only thing I need the taskbar for | 07:03 |
| contrapunctus | brb trying the logout solution | 07:03 |
| contrapunctus | Nopes, no luck with logout-switch-session-login-logout-switch-session-login method. | 07:05 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, try this: settings > settings manager >panel maybe delete and recreate the panel? or ensure that you didn't set it to invisible or only 1 pixel tall or something? I've done it ... | 07:07 |
| contrapunctus | cfhowlett, packetfrog, I should probably mention that when I run xfce4-panel, I get the bottom app launcher alright, but no taskbar... | 07:08 |
| contrapunctus | xfwm4 --replace, xfce4-panel -r, xfce4-panel -q and then -r, didn't work. | 07:09 |
| packetfrog | Contrapunctus i had a similar issue but i went to panel settings and made another panel and added everything i needed into it. | 07:09 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, bottom launcher ???? what ? paste a screenshot | 07:09 |
| packetfrog | cfhowlett he has a dock no taskbar | 07:09 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, so bottom launcher is .... ? | 07:10 |
| packetfrog | a dock like macos | 07:10 |
| packetfrog | He wants the taskbar that had the time and where his minimized windows are.. | 07:10 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, ah, he has to add that I think. Since the bottom dock is there, no taskbar by default ... | 07:11 |
| cfhowlett | still want a screenshot though ... | 07:11 |
| packetfrog | the ubuntustudio install comes with the docker at bottom and the taskbar on top | 07:11 |
| cfhowlett | !paste | 07:12 |
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| contrapunctus | cfhowlett, I didn't touch the thing. I accidentally long-pressed Alt+F4 and away it went. :S | 07:14 |
| cfhowlett | alt-F4, huh? Gotta test that ... | 07:14 |
| cfhowlett | This is the default set then; http://imagebin.org/247252 | 07:15 |
| contrapunctus | Yeah, it's as packetfrog describes (except I've never used a Mac so I dunno about that) | 07:18 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, alt-f4 only tried to log me out. No effect on display... | 07:19 |
| packetfrog | contrapunctus My fix for the same problem was to make an extra dock panel and add everything I needed into that.. | 07:20 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, right click on the top panel, go into preferences, hit the plus sight and add what you what | 07:20 |
| packetfrog | !paste | 07:20 |
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| contrapunctus | O.o wonder what crashed it, then. | 07:20 |
| contrapunctus | One sec, Ima try the settings > settings man > panel fix... | 07:21 |
| cfhowlett | windows buttons/workplace switcher/window menu are what you want I think | 07:21 |
| packetfrog | http://imagebin.org/247253 | 07:21 |
| packetfrog | thats what I ended up with. :) | 07:21 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, yeah, I think you altered the panel settings. but it's still there for you to rebuild | 07:22 |
| packetfrog | Its not in panel settings | 07:22 |
| packetfrog | the taskbar was something else.. | 07:22 |
| cfhowlett | preferences ... | 07:22 |
| cfhowlett | right click on the panel and see PREFERENCES | 07:23 |
| packetfrog | I cant recreate a taskbar like I had with that. I can only make the one I have on top that does the same thing. | 07:23 |
| packetfrog | :p | 07:23 |
| packetfrog | I like this better though so I am happy. | 07:23 |
| packetfrog | I completely admit I do not understand most of this though. just trying to figure it all out. :) | 07:24 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, it'll come. | 07:24 |
| cfhowlett | we learn by breaking and fixing | 07:24 |
| packetfrog | its fun. :) | 07:25 |
| contrapunctus | Aha | 07:25 |
| contrapunctus | Interesting | 07:26 |
| contrapunctus | I think it's getting there, I just need to make it exactly like the original one | 07:26 |
| packetfrog | contrapuntus You can prbly make it size and stretch the systemtask bar part and recreate the old one. | 07:26 |
| packetfrog | http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=77356 | 07:28 |
| packetfrog | that seems to be a likely fix | 07:28 |
| packetfrog | remove xfce4 panel and remove its config files then reinstall. | 07:28 |
| contrapunctus | Hm...Ima try that. | 07:30 |
| contrapunctus | because I can't get it to look like the original just yet | 07:30 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, wait 1 I'll help | 07:31 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, you there? | 07:42 |
| contrapunctus | Yup | 07:43 |
| cfhowlett | OK, I just recreated mine ... after I somehow lost it as you did. | 07:43 |
| cfhowlett | Very easy to lose and easy to get back ... | 07:43 |
| contrapunctus | o.o | 07:45 |
| cfhowlett | contrapunctus, see http://imagebin.org/247254 | 07:49 |
| packetfrog | Nice. | 07:53 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, use that right mouse button. all kinds of tweaks, preferences and behaviors hide there | 07:54 |
| packetfrog | Slowly I am getting there. ;) | 07:56 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, :) | 07:56 |
| cfhowlett | in case y'all want some (IMHO) lovely wallpapers, I updated an old favorite ... http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/unusual/beautiful-ubuntu-ray-traced-wallpapers | 07:58 |
| cfhowlett | !paste | 09:06 |
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| smartboyhw | cfhowlett, ? | 09:13 |
| cfhowlett | !md5sum | 09:13 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 09:13 |
| cfhowlett | smartboyhw, working a problem here. | 09:13 |
| packetfrog | cfhowlett: I seem to have messed up a font setting but I have not gotten to touching those yet... in firefox and on my panel term thing I cant see what I type... :/ any idea where those settings are? | 09:34 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, display or appearance would be my guess | 09:34 |
| packetfrog | thanks. It was just a theme changing the font I think. | 09:38 |
| packetfrog | Now It looks better ! :P | 09:38 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, time for you to start helping others! You know how to solve ubuntu problems! | 09:41 |
| packetfrog | hardware android ubuntu and here I google the crap out of stuff for people :p | 09:42 |
| packetfrog | and try to pay attention to what other people are getting helped with so I can learn from that too. | 09:43 |
| cfhowlett | packetfrog, that's definitely one way to learn | 09:43 |
| packetfrog | Hello contra | 09:49 |
| contrapunctus | packetfrog...purging xfce4-panel and then installing it again didn't work, not even after rebooting. | 09:51 |
| contrapunctus | I've built the taskbar again, though | 09:51 |
| contrapunctus | More or less resembles the earlier one, close enough. | 09:51 |
| packetfrog | cfhowlett: had a fix for u | 09:52 |
| contrapunctus | He doesn't seem to be here o.o | 09:52 |
| packetfrog | http://imagebin.org/247254 | 09:53 |
| packetfrog | recreate it like that | 09:53 |
| packetfrog | in panel settings | 09:53 |
| packetfrog | is what he posted. | 09:53 |
| contrapunctus | Aha, that'll be helpful, thanks ^^ | 09:56 |
| contrapunctus | Could anyone please tell me how to do the following by using only the keyboard or CLI - 1. switch between 'normal' and 'presentation' power manager modes, and 2. lock the screen? | 09:56 |
| packetfrog | Only because no one else is answering uoi | 10:02 |
| packetfrog | you* | 10:02 |
| packetfrog | you can install: gnome-screensaver | 10:02 |
| packetfrog | then from command line: gnome-screensaver-command -l or --lock | 10:03 |
| packetfrog | and ctrl alt l will do the same I think | 10:03 |
| taxi | hello | 11:06 |
| taxi | i'm having no sound since i updated the kernel in ubuntustudio 12.04 this morning | 11:07 |
| taxi | is there any knozn bug with 3.5.0-24.23 ? | 11:08 |
| taxi | known* | 11:08 |
| taxi | anyone here ? | 11:16 |
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| astroidus | anyone here ? | 14:39 |
| cfhowlett | astroidus, peeking in from time to time | 14:39 |
| astroidus | have some problems with my sound installation (I hope, my bad english would me no problem...) | 14:41 |
| astroidus | be | 14:41 |
| cfhowlett | astroidus, bring it over to #ubuntu ... more eyes | 14:41 |
| astroidus | I've been there yesterday. They all have other problems and no idea about sound in ubuntu | 14:43 |
| holstein | !sound | astroidus | 15:05 |
| ubottu | astroidus: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 15:05 |
| antivapor | hi, i see in my Ubuntu Software Center that Bluetooth is installed, but I can't figure out where to navigate to get to it? | 18:33 |
| packetfrog | . There were 2 bluetooth packages that didn't install. One was 4.98 2ubuntu7, and the other was gnome- bluetooth 3.2.2-0buntu5. I installed this same system on 2 different pc with the same result. Once those packages were installed, it worked just fine. Those two need to be included in the distro | 18:39 |
| packetfrog | So goto synaptic and search :"bluetooth" and try installing those packages? | 18:40 |
| packetfrog | Just what i found on the forum. | 18:40 |
| packetfrog | You likely have the software to USE bluetooth just not the software to control it? :0 | 18:40 |
| antivapor | packetfrog: that sounds about right, I'll try that, thanks. | 18:43 |
| packetfrog | :) | 18:44 |
| packetfrog | antivapor: Any luck? | 19:06 |
| antivapor | Will know in a second, I'm installing Bluetooth Device Setup gnome-bluetooth 3.6.-0ubuntu1 | 19:09 |
| antivapor | what is blueman and why are all the names for all these versions #ubuntu# | 19:09 |
| antivapor | after installing 'Bluetooth Support', 'Bluetooth Transfer', and 'Bluetooth Device Setup', I still don't see it anywhere to configure/setup. | 19:11 |
| antivapor | the application finder doesnt come up with anything either | 19:12 |
| packetfrog | applications>settings>bluetooth settings at top | 19:13 |
| packetfrog | install blueman | 19:13 |
| antivapor | will it conflict with bluez? | 19:14 |
| packetfrog | No idea, i just did it and it worked though. | 19:14 |
| packetfrog | I dont use bluetooth though. | 19:14 |
| packetfrog | now i get to uninstall it :/ | 19:14 |
| antivapor | ha, okay, I'm installing myself. I was avoiding blueman, because I thought it was a seperate bluetooth stack or something, but I see now that it is just a management utility. | 19:15 |
| packetfrog | Sorry for the runaround with other stuff | 19:16 |
| packetfrog | blueman popped right up and started scanning for devices | 19:16 |
| packetfrog | and im on a standard us install | 19:17 |
| antivapor | okay, thanks for all the help packetfrog. Now that I have a utility I can now try to get my fickle bluetooth keyboard going :] | 19:18 |
| packetfrog | Do you like bluetooth keyboards/mice? | 19:18 |
| packetfrog | I have never used one. i keep going with the usb dongle type. | 19:18 |
| antivapor | Yes, I got a Motorolla bluetooth keyboard, and it has been excellent for using with my tablet and the windows partition on this computer. | 19:19 |
| antivapor | but sometimes I have to reset it to factory settings if it saves the wrong info or something. | 19:20 |
| packetfrog | That makes sence. I do not have tablets or anything like that so i can use the usb dongle. ;/ | 19:21 |
| Inoki | Yo lads, anybody alive here? | 21:03 |
| zequence | Inoki: wasup? | 21:16 |
| Inoki | zequence: Yo, by the time someone replied I forgot what I wanted :D | 21:26 |
| zequence | Inoki: If you have a question, it's usually best just to ask :). Sometimes things get a little idle, but eventually someone answers | 21:27 |
| Inoki | zequence: Ah! Now I know! :D | 21:27 |
| Inoki | zequence: Thing is, I'm using Kupfer, but cannot set it to open URLs by default when I have FF installed. My main is Chromium, but when I wanna open a URL via Kupfer, it fires up Firefox. >.> | 21:28 |
| len-1304 | Inoki, are you using ubuntustudio or another ubuntu? That is are you using xfce as the desktop? | 21:31 |
| Inoki | len-1304: Ubuntu Studio :) | 21:33 |
| Inoki | len-1304: 12.10 x64 bit. | 21:33 |
| len-1304 | Ok, so xfce. Xfce uses exo-open to open the browser. | 21:35 |
| len-1304 | So if you use setting to choose the default browser, that is what will be set. | 21:36 |
| len-1304 | I do not know which app starter kupfer uses though. I do know there is a gnome app starter, that we probably don't set up. | 21:37 |
| len-1304 | Inoki, there is also a gnome-open, but I don't know how to set up the apps it uses for things as the man page doesn't tell me. | 21:40 |
| Inoki | len-1304: I've checked exo-open, that one I got correctly set up. | 21:41 |
| len-1304 | Ya exo-open is the xfce default. We should probable make gnome-open a link to that. | 21:42 |
| Inoki | Would be nice. | 21:45 |
| len-1304 | There is also gvfs-open, and xdg-open | 21:45 |
| Inoki | Kupfer is by far superior to Dash or any other launcher. | 21:45 |
| Inoki | Didn't try gvfs. | 21:45 |
| zequence | It's not good to change gnome specific stuff | 21:45 |
| zequence | After all, someone might install multiple desktops | 21:46 |
| len-1304 | zequence, ya, if it follows the xdg standard it should work anyway. | 21:46 |
| Inoki | zequence: My experience tells me mixing up libraries of any kind is not recommended. Thus, I wanted XFCE, so I have a pure build. | 21:46 |
| zequence | I'm of course talking about default settings on the Ubuntu Studio install. You can of course do this manually after install, if you wish | 21:47 |
| zequence | Not all applications seem to follow the same standards | 21:48 |
| zequence | My knowledge of this is pretty poor | 21:48 |
| Inoki | For what I know, installing another DE into an existing one never really worked, since a lot of stuff a pure build of let's say KDE is missing. | 21:48 |
| zequence | Gnome and Unity mixes ok, since they use the same base, and it depends a lot on exactly what you install concerning the others, in my experience. | 21:49 |
| len-1304 | zequence, I don't know where the exo-open defaults are stored. | 21:50 |
| Inoki | len-1304: /usr/bin/exo-open I think | 21:51 |
| Inoki | len-1304: Try sudo mousepad /usr/bin/xdg-open e.g. | 21:51 |
| zequence | len-1304: I suppose it would be good to document this basic desktop stuff. One would think Xubuntu has docs on this, or XFCE | 21:52 |
| len-1304 | I can find the filemanager/terminal emulator settings but not mailer/browser. | 21:52 |
| zequence | Inoki: That's the binary. Settings for it are elsewhere | 21:52 |
| len-1304 | It is supposed to end up in the user's directory | 21:52 |
| zequence | Is there /usr/bin/exo-open? | 21:52 |
| zequence | Is it not just a variable? | 21:53 |
| len-1304 | What I found was in ~/.config/xfce4 | 21:53 |
| len-1304 | Yes that is the binary name. | 21:53 |
| zequence | One could try adding this to ~/.bashrc: export xdg-open=chromium-browser | 21:54 |
| zequence | And any other variable | 21:54 |
| len-1304 | gvfs-open suggests the default file should be /etc/xdg/applications/mimeapps.list | 21:54 |
| zequence | weird. "-" does strange things | 21:55 |
| len-1304 | This would end up in each user's ~/.config/applications/* | 21:55 |
| zequence | len-1304: When making the settings, I guess they are stored in home though? | 21:55 |
| zequence | Ah, yeah | 21:55 |
| len-1304 | But xfce does not set this. | 21:56 |
| zequence | Forget I said anything about the variable. I'm getting tired :P | 21:56 |
| len-1304 | I don't know if that is opendesktop compliant | 21:56 |
| zequence | there are a bunch of xdg-* tools | 21:57 |
| zequence | one of them is xdg-settings | 21:57 |
| zequence | xdg-settings get default-web-browser | 21:58 |
| zequence | shows current browser | 21:58 |
| zequence | This would set chromium: xdg-settings set default-web-browser google-chrome.desktop | 21:58 |
| len-1304 | does that work for exo-open as well? | 21:59 |
| zequence | I'm not on XFCE, so I can't test it | 21:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What's needed to test as far as XFCE is concerned? | 22:00 |
| len-1304 | Ah, I think I found it. ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list | 22:00 |
| zequence | I don't have that file | 22:01 |
| Inoki | len-1304: That I checked as well. | 22:02 |
| Inoki | len-1304: I went through possibly every guide I found. | 22:02 |
| zequence | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xdg-open | 22:03 |
| len-1304 | The one in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list has many more applications | 22:03 |
| len-1304 | It would be system default. I think the one in ~/.local only has things the user has changed away from default. | 22:04 |
| zequence | I suppose so | 22:05 |
| len-1304 | The one in ~/.config/xfce4/ would be added xfce stuff. I am not sure what order these files are searched though. | 22:05 |
| Inoki | I suppose changing this: "text/html=firefox.desktop;google-chrome.desktop" to this "text/html=google-chrome.desktop;firefox.desktop" could do, lemme try. | 22:06 |
| len-1304 | I think xfce4 would search it's own dir first then the user then sys default. | 22:06 |
| Inoki | nope. | 22:07 |
| Inoki | But maybe via Galternatives it could work. | 22:07 |
| len-1304 | application/xhtml+xml=firefox.desktop is the default. | 22:11 |
| Inoki | Yer, was thinking the same.... | 22:11 |
| Inoki | Wait, | 22:11 |
| len-1304 | plus text/html=firefox.desktop | 22:12 |
| len-1304 | plus text/xml=firefox.desktop | 22:12 |
| len-1304 | plus x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop | 22:12 |
| len-1304 | x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop | 22:12 |
| len-1304 | Those last two seem to be what xfce setup plays with. | 22:13 |
| Inoki | Wait, you're suggesting to remove firefox completely? | 22:13 |
| len-1304 | No. | 22:13 |
| Inoki | Or reverse order. | 22:13 |
| len-1304 | I am saying to add all of these lines to the user file. | 22:14 |
| len-1304 | but with your browser in them. | 22:14 |
| Inoki | Those lines are there. | 22:14 |
| Inoki | But like this: x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;google-chrome.desktop | 22:14 |
| Inoki | I suspect that since Firefox is positioned first, it has higher priority. | 22:15 |
| len-1304 | the first one would be the default. | 22:15 |
| Inoki | I could do a backup of this file and remove firefox from it completely. | 22:15 |
| len-1304 | Yup. | 22:16 |
| len-1304 | copy to *.tsil | 22:16 |
| Inoki | What's .tsil? | 22:17 |
| len-1304 | list backwards | 22:17 |
| Inoki | Ok, gimme a sec. | 22:17 |
| Inoki | Yer, works. | 22:21 |
| Inoki | I simply used gedit to find all traces of google-chrome.desktop first and replace with blank space, then find firefox.desktop and replace with google-chrome.desktop | 22:22 |
| Inoki | Now all links open correctly in Chromium :) | 22:22 |
| Inoki | Thanks both! :) | 22:23 |
| len-1304 | NP. Gotta go get son now. | 22:25 |
| Inoki | Take care :) | 22:27 |
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