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buenouanqInstallation problems on a Macbook5,1.  Can get to GRUB just fine with the options: -Try without install -Install -OEM install -Check disc for defects00:21
buenouanqSelecting any of these leads to a blank screen, then some lines of various colors appear at the top.  Please help.  Any ideas?00:21
buenouanqnew question:00:32
buenouanqis there a mac specific image of 12.10?00:33
xubuntu545hello01:01
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FsDKlol01:01
FsDKinstalling xubuntu!01:02
buenouanqis there a mac specific image of 12.10?01:10
nsixi have an issue, can anyone help?01:43
toraxnsix: go ahead, whats the problem01:45
nsixim new to ubuntu. i just installed 3 desktop enviros and rebooted. when i logged in i greeted by a blank purple screen01:46
nsixno login/password option01:46
nsixdidnt know that i had to reboot after each install01:46
toraxwhat packages did you installed?01:47
nsixcinnamon via command line and kde via the store01:48
nsixmaybe it was just these two01:48
nsixer01:48
nsixim sorry not kde, i installed gnome shell from the store01:49
nsixso gnome shell and cinnamon01:49
toraxnsix: you could try " sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm "01:50
nsixokay :/01:51
nsixwhat does that do exactly?01:51
toraxpress ctrl+alt+f1 log in to terminal and write that command01:52
toraxum, it reconfigures your default login manager01:52
Unit193At the login screen, what session is selected?01:52
nsixi dont see any text at the login screen01:53
nsixjust a purple wallpaper01:53
nsixi cant login as guest or user01:53
nsixIm back02:11
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nsixI tried the reconfig lightdm command02:12
nsixbut it didnt work02:12
nsixi reran the three commands that i used to install cinnamon, that didn't work either02:12
nsixif anyone else is able to assist, i install 2 desktops environments at once and rebooted. when i rebooted i was greeting by a purple login page. but no login/password field.02:13
holsteinnsix: i would purge the PPA's you likely added, and try and get back to default02:13
nsixso short from a reinstall, im stuck02:13
nsixim a day 1 noob02:14
nsixhow do i do that02:14
holsteinnsix: well, you might want to just reinstall, and just relax.. sit with it a bit, as-is02:14
nsixim interested in fixing the issue02:14
holsteinnsix: juggling desktop environments is not that advanced, but its not trivial02:14
holsteinnsix: remove the sources you added02:15
holstein!ppa02:15
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:15
holsteinnsix: undo what you added that is likely breaking your system02:15
fishtechHow can I install theme packs for xfce and where would I get them? Maybe you guys have a trusted site. Some I found I was not sure about.02:15
holsteinor, elaborate as to what you issu is02:15
holsteinissue*02:15
nsixso i type !ppa... thats it?02:15
holsteinnsix: no.. you'll need to remove the ppa's you added02:15
holsteinnsix: what would i do? reinstall.. and come here *before* you add desktop environments02:16
holsteinnsix: using live CD"s is a nice way to see desktops without breaking your current install02:16
holsteinfishtech: i just add the ones n the repos and tweak from there02:16
nsixany way to see a list of PPA's install in order of being installed?02:18
fishtechHow do I add from repos? I'm still learning linux so I'm still lost on things.02:18
holsteinnsix: you can link to, or share what you have done so far, and a volunteer could help you undo that02:18
holsteinnsix: no.. thats why i suggest you *dont* add ppa's.. they can break things02:18
holsteinfishtech: i just search in the package manager of my chioce and add.. i like synaptic02:19
fishtechAh, I can do that. Thank you.02:19
nsixthe first thing I did was to install "gnome shell" from the Ubuntu Software Center02:22
nsixsecond I ran these three commands to install cinnamon02:22
nsixsudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable02:22
nsixsudo apt-get update02:22
nsixsudo apt-get install cinnamon02:22
nsixI rebooted and then was greeted by a blank login page. No text what so ever. No wallpaper. Just a solid purple window.02:23
nsixThe purpole window did have a black border around it.02:23
nsixwhen i ctrl+alt+del it will shutdown and I see the Ubuntu logo and progress bar, then I reboot02:23
nsixctrl+alt+f1 works02:24
holstein!tty02:31
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution02:31
holstein^^ you can use those as well, when you are "stuck"02:31
holsteinnsix: what happened when you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm as torax suggested?02:31
nsixwhen I pressed ctrl+alt+f7 I was pushed back to the desktop/login screen but this time it was solid black02:33
nsixwell a black box with black borders02:34
nsixthe purple was replaced by black02:34
nsixi rebooted but was greeted by the same purple screen as before02:34
holsteinnsix: i would say, it'll take you some time to learn how to rescue that system.. i would start over, and take it easy02:35
holsteinnsix: use XFCE for a while, as-is02:35
holsteintry mate from a live CD02:35
nsixso reinstall :/02:36
holsteinnsix: it takes me about 8 minutes to install xubuntu02:36
Unit193(Little more for configuration)  Mate and cinnamon aren't officially supported in 12.10, but 13.04 has cinnamon in the repos.02:37
holsteinnsix: otherwise, what happened when you tried the command?02:37
nsixnothing02:37
xubuntu026hi04:36
xubuntu026I'm new04:36
xubuntu026xfce o gnome 3.6?04:36
holsteinxubuntu026: xfce and gnome are both destkop environments04:39
holsteinxubuntu026: you would use gnome *instead* of xfce04:39
holsteinxubuntu026: you just open the pacakge manager of your choice and search "gnome"04:39
holsteinxubuntu026: you can ask in #ubuntu as well04:39
qwertz_why does my xubuntu 12.10 lock the screen on suspend although i ticked that in the settings manager?09:37
TheSheepqwertz_: as far as I remember there are two places where that setting is, one in the screensaver and one in the power manager, and you have to tick both09:39
TheSheepqwertz_: and yes, it's silly09:39
qwertz_TheSheep, you mean "Lock Screen After X minutes"?09:41
qwertz_got it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207873009:47
qwertz_this is stupid09:47
TheSheepyeah, it's an eternal work in progress09:48
baizona question, i want to backup my system. What conf files/dirs should i backup besides my /home folder?09:51
qwertz_baizon, from my experience: none.10:11
qwertz_make sure not to forget all "dot" dirs in ~10:12
lestussup10:12
baizonqwertz_: wont happen10:22
nantoui need to use evolution torified, for that I need a command that is stored somewhere in the registry of commands, but I cannot locate it. Is there any app or command that allows me to search for any specific command? IE, "evolution"?11:13
TheSheepnantou: the registry of commands?11:16
nantouforgive the broken english, i dont even know if thats the correct term11:16
nantouthe list of commands you write in a terminal is called...11:16
TheSheephistory?11:17
TheSheepyou can search the terminal command history by pressing ctrl+r11:17
nantouok...11:29
nantouthanks11:29
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someone235Hey, when I try to access SFTP through the file manager, It doesn't respond. Someone can help me with this?12:46
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roastedhello!14:36
roastedIs there a way to make the "home" desktop icon open Nautilus instead of Thunar? Thunar is being problematic and I have Nautilus set as the default file manager but I specifically want that home icon to open Nautilus as well.14:37
GridCubechange the preffered applications14:37
GridCubepreferred14:37
roastedI did14:40
roastedIt changes Nautilus to default for everything EXCEPT that home icon on my desktop.14:40
roastedI want the home icon specifically to launchy Nautilus because the home icon is only delete-able from the system settings > desktop menu.14:41
roastedLong story short, I'm using Xubuntu as the OS of choice for old computer sthat I'm repurposing and donating to people with financial hardships, particularly ones with kids who could benefit from having a computer with a word processor and educational games etc.14:41
GridCubei remember a ubuntu question site about this subject, did you googled for an answer?14:42
roastedI like the thought of that home icon only being delete-able from the system settings menu as it'll be an extra deterrent to not have that icon deleted off of their desktop. I just think it'll be easier for brand new users if I can figure this out for them before I hand systems out.14:42
roastedI did, but all I could find was info relating to using Nautilus on X ubuntu - not specifically using Nautilus as the default for this specific icon on Xubuntu.14:42
roastedI'd be fine with using Thunar if Thunar wouldn't take 60 seconds to launch. I seem to be getting hit with that gvfs bug that has been around for the better part of two years now :(14:43
GridCubejust add a launched for nautilus and remove that one14:43
roastedoh, a lau ncher...14:43
roastedlet me fire up my VM and see. (I'm not at home to verify it on the main i mage I'm doing)14:44
roastedThanks for the insight GridCube  :)14:45
RogachHello! Can I find downloadable images of Xubuntu 10.10 somewhere?16:37
bazhangRogach, why ever would you want that. its not supported any longer16:40
baizonRogach: no16:40
baizonwhy not 12.04?16:40
GridCubeyou... can... but you wont get support for those16:40
roastedFor kicks I just installed Xubuntu, but that icon thhing still doesn't apply. The application launcher I created I can't get into the default icons field.16:40
Rogachbazhang:There is some problem with video drivers - we tried to get it working with 12.04, but failed. Also, we hope that the memory consumption will be a bit lower - < 256 mb of memory on board, and 12.04 seems to have troubles with that.16:41
GridCuberoasted, what?16:41
RogachGridCube: Where?16:41
roastedGridCube: from earlier, I want to add a new icon to the Default Icons section of System Settings - Desktop - Icons tab - Default Icons. I can't do that.16:42
GridCubeRogach, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/16:42
GridCubeRogach, i want to repeat: no support16:42
RogachGridCube: I know that :)16:43
GridCuberoasted, sorry im not understanding you16:43
bazhangRogach, no security updates at all. its very unwise to use16:43
GridCubeyou want to change the icon for a launcher16:43
RogachGridCube: There's no xubuntu on that page :(16:43
GridCubeRogach, i wouldn't expect it to be, no16:44
RogachGridCube: Eh. Sad.16:44
GridCubehttp://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/16:45
GridCubeonly ones stored are those16:45
RogachGridCube: Well, I know one place where 6.06 still works, powering a mail server :)16:46
roastedGridCube: I'm not sure how else I can explain it...16:46
roastedGridCube: System Settings - Desktop - Icons tab - Default Icons. How can I add something there?16:46
GridCubeRogach, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/16:46
RogachGridCube: That was not exactly what we wanted, just update system was broken, and we left it as-is.16:47
GridCubeRogach, welp sorry 'bout that16:47
RogachGridCube: :)16:47
RogachGridCube: Thank you!16:47
GridCubenot much else we can do from here16:47
GridCuberoasted, i dont think you can do that no16:49
GridCubeyou can change the icon for the launcher itself16:50
GridCubebut not add an icon to xfdesktop to my knowlede16:50
roastedGridCube: what I want to do is get Thunar off of the "Home" function and assign it to Nautilus... since Thunar seem sot be suffering from a 2 year old bug. <_<16:55
roastedya know, I got a better idea.16:56
roastedI'll remove home, add the Nautilus launcher, and adjust the permissions to it16:56
roastedthat way I can work around this limitation16:56
GridCuberoasted, if its the lag on launch, thats been fixed on newer thunars16:56
roastedGridCube: I'm full updated, upgraded, etc in 12.04 - no fix.16:57
roastedGridCube: is that osmething I have to PPA/compile in?16:57
GridCuberoasted, first there is a silly simple workaround, then you can get the 12.10 thunar version, using a ppa for xfce 4.10, then you can get a newer-newer version of thunar that even has tabbed browsing and what not16:58
roastedGridCube: that sounds good. Got a guide handy?16:59
GridCubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/775117 answer 13 has the workaround, dead simple17:01
ubottuUbuntu bug 775117 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "Thunar hangs on first launch of each session" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:01
roastedoh, I read about this elsewhere, but I thought ti disabled all network capability with samba shares.17:02
roastedOne user on another source commented, I don't use file sharing services anyway like samba so it's fine if I don't have that functionality.17:02
GridCubeyou can get the "semi oficial" ppa for 4.10  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/install-xfce-410-in-xubuntu-1204.html17:02
roastedI took that as setting this to false means there's no smb browsing capability whatsoever.17:02
GridCubeyou will taint your 12.04 though, so no oficial support for hat17:03
GridCuberoasted, it works her17:03
GridCubee17:03
roastedI think I'll try this fix.17:03
roastedthe workaround that is.17:03
roastedAs long as I can still do smb://192.168.x.x to my samba server, this will be perfect.17:03
GridCubeyou should be able to17:03
roastedawesome17:03
roastedthanks!17:03
GridCubeits simply not loaded at boot17:03
GridCubeor launch17:03
roastedI'm fine with that. Just as long as it responds when I hit smb://etc.etc17:05
roastedI'mheading home for lunch so I'll give it a shot then.17:05
roastedthanks again!17:05
chaz_zhey guys, I installed KDE desktop on my xubuntu installation. When I'm in KDE, gtk widgets aren't themed. Obviously I need to do something so they look nice again. here's a screenie: http://i.imgur.com/hmrhw6f.png17:39
chaz_zanyone online?17:40
laitechaz_z: I'm not that familiar with KDE but I'd think there's some option in its settings17:40
chaz_zchanging widget skins using the kde settings doesn't seem to work :(17:41
laitethere are (I think) two settings in KDE, for QT and for gtk, you need gtk settings17:42
chaz_zhm, I wonder what the gtk settings application name is?17:42
laitetry asking #kde ?17:42
chaz_zgood idea17:43
genii-around!info qtcurve17:44
ubottuqtcurve (source: kde-style-qtcurve): Unified window decoration for KDE and GTK+ (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.14-1 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 34 kB17:44
bullgard4When I boot up my computer. Xubuntu 12.04.2 automatically starts a certain command-line program.  How to find out where this start command is located on my hard disk?18:05
baizonbullgard4: check session and startup18:06
baizonthere should be a path18:07
roastedhello!18:39
roastedThunar proved to be a pita even with the workaround in the network mount file.18:39
roastedNautilus ftw.18:39
baizonhave you tried Thunar 1.6?18:40
roastedNo.18:41
roastedIs it available for 12.04?18:41
baizonroasted: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/install-thunar-with-tabs-support-in.html18:41
roastedoh boy <3 <3 <318:41
roastedThunar still takes a freakin hour to start.18:47
roastedNautilus ftw x218:47
roastedcancel that, seems as if I'm still on 1.2.3............18:48
roasted<_<18:48
roastedin synaptic I marked thunar 1.6 to be upgraded, and it flags xubuntu-desktop as to be removed.18:49
roastedI'm done with this. Thunar is too much fuss.18:49
baizonroasted: please clear the cache18:50
baizonhehe ok18:50
roastedclaer what cache18:51
roastedah it doesn't matter. things are working fine with nautilus so I'm just going to run with that plan.19:04
bullgard4baizon: Which "session" do you mean? /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/ui/gtk3/session, /usr/share/doc/sqlite3-doc/session, /usr/share/indicators/session, /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/session, /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session, /home/detlef/.compiz-1/session, /home/detlef/.kde/share/config/session, /home/detlef/.compiz/session, ,/home/detlef/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session, /var/lib/pam/session?20:23
KeyboardNotFoundhow to restart user graphical settings ?20:26
KeyboardNotFoundto default ?20:26
bullgard4KeyboardNotFound: What do you mean by "user graphical settings"?20:28
PhoonWhich packages do I need to install to get a working Eclipse install for Android?20:39
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kzettsHi21:16
kzettsDo you guys use a 3rd party app for theme management? I copied a gtk theme and an xfwm theme into ~/.themes and neither are showing up in the appearance settings tool.21:17
kzettsAny ideas?21:17
knomekzetts, did you extract the themes?21:17
kzettsyes21:17
knomekzetts, does it happen with all themes or just some specific ones?21:18
kzettsThis is the first that I've tried21:18
kzettsAfter extracting the xfwm theme21:18
kzettsits just a folder with a bunch of pixmaps in it21:18
kzettsand the gtk theme21:18
rzyzHello, thunar delete entries in ~/.gtk-bookmarks that are unreachable. I don't want that. How do it?21:18
kzettsinside the directory is a .emerald file, and another tarball21:18
rzyzit networks marks21:19
rzyzis*21:19
knomekzetts, the xfwm theme should appear under "window manager"21:19
kzettsOh21:19
kzettsit did.21:19
knomekzetts, the emerald file doesn't sound like something that should work with xfce21:19
kzettsPerfect21:19
kzettsGreat21:23
kzettsNow most thinks look better21:23
kzettsBut it seems that the themes have messed up my panel21:23
kzettsLike the indicator icons are all wonky.21:23
Jutashi guys. I would lik to know  in which folder has the files of look and apperience over the themes and icons? i put the folder in those but it's not good enough21:30
lestusis everyone still just using 12.04 lts for stability or did everyone upgrade to 12.10 ?21:49
toraxlestus: im using 12.0421:50
g16lestus: I'm using both21:51
recon_lap12.04 :) , seems a lot of Luddites here21:52
aicasn-V12.0421:53
lestusnice22:02
David-Alestus: I'm on 10.04 :)  people use the LTS releases if they only want to upgrade about every 3d year. over time the LTS:es should also be more stable.22:12

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