[00:21] <buenouanq> Installation problems on a Macbook5,1.  Can get to GRUB just fine with the options: -Try without install -Install -OEM install -Check disc for defects
[00:21] <buenouanq> Selecting any of these leads to a blank screen, then some lines of various colors appear at the top.  Please help.  Any ideas?
[00:32] <buenouanq> new question:
[00:33] <buenouanq> is there a mac specific image of 12.10?
[01:01] <xubuntu545> hello
[01:01] <FsDK> lol
[01:02] <FsDK> installing xubuntu!
[01:10] <buenouanq> is there a mac specific image of 12.10?
[01:43] <nsix> i have an issue, can anyone help?
[01:45] <torax> nsix: go ahead, whats the problem
[01:46] <nsix> im new to ubuntu. i just installed 3 desktop enviros and rebooted. when i logged in i greeted by a blank purple screen
[01:46] <nsix> no login/password option
[01:46] <nsix> didnt know that i had to reboot after each install
[01:47] <torax> what packages did you installed?
[01:48] <nsix> cinnamon via command line and kde via the store
[01:48] <nsix> maybe it was just these two
[01:48] <nsix> er
[01:49] <nsix> im sorry not kde, i installed gnome shell from the store
[01:49] <nsix> so gnome shell and cinnamon
[01:50] <torax> nsix: you could try " sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm "
[01:51] <nsix> okay :/
[01:51] <nsix> what does that do exactly?
[01:52] <torax> press ctrl+alt+f1 log in to terminal and write that command
[01:52] <torax> um, it reconfigures your default login manager
[01:52] <Unit193> At the login screen, what session is selected?
[01:53] <nsix> i dont see any text at the login screen
[01:53] <nsix> just a purple wallpaper
[01:53] <nsix> i cant login as guest or user
[02:11] <nsix> Im back
[02:12] <nsix> I tried the reconfig lightdm command
[02:12] <nsix> but it didnt work
[02:12] <nsix> i reran the three commands that i used to install cinnamon, that didn't work either
[02:13] <nsix> if anyone else is able to assist, i install 2 desktops environments at once and rebooted. when i rebooted i was greeting by a purple login page. but no login/password field.
[02:13] <holstein> nsix: i would purge the PPA's you likely added, and try and get back to default
[02:13] <nsix> so short from a reinstall, im stuck
[02:14] <nsix> im a day 1 noob
[02:14] <nsix> how do i do that
[02:14] <holstein> nsix: well, you might want to just reinstall, and just relax.. sit with it a bit, as-is
[02:14] <nsix> im interested in fixing the issue
[02:14] <holstein> nsix: juggling desktop environments is not that advanced, but its not trivial
[02:15] <holstein> nsix: remove the sources you added
[02:15] <holstein> !ppa
[02:15] <holstein> nsix: undo what you added that is likely breaking your system
[02:15] <fishtech> How can I install theme packs for xfce and where would I get them? Maybe you guys have a trusted site. Some I found I was not sure about.
[02:15] <holstein> or, elaborate as to what you issu is
[02:15] <holstein> issue*
[02:15] <nsix> so i type !ppa... thats it?
[02:15] <holstein> nsix: no.. you'll need to remove the ppa's you added
[02:16] <holstein> nsix: what would i do? reinstall.. and come here *before* you add desktop environments
[02:16] <holstein> nsix: using live CD"s is a nice way to see desktops without breaking your current install
[02:16] <holstein> fishtech: i just add the ones n the repos and tweak from there
[02:18] <nsix> any way to see a list of PPA's install in order of being installed?
[02:18] <fishtech> How do I add from repos? I'm still learning linux so I'm still lost on things.
[02:18] <holstein> nsix: you can link to, or share what you have done so far, and a volunteer could help you undo that
[02:18] <holstein> nsix: no.. thats why i suggest you *dont* add ppa's.. they can break things
[02:19] <holstein> fishtech: i just search in the package manager of my chioce and add.. i like synaptic
[02:19] <fishtech> Ah, I can do that. Thank you.
[02:22] <nsix> the first thing I did was to install "gnome shell" from the Ubuntu Software Center
[02:22] <nsix> second I ran these three commands to install cinnamon
[02:22] <nsix> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[02:22] <nsix> sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <nsix> sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[02:23] <nsix> I rebooted and then was greeted by a blank login page. No text what so ever. No wallpaper. Just a solid purple window.
[02:23] <nsix> The purpole window did have a black border around it.
[02:23] <nsix> when i ctrl+alt+del it will shutdown and I see the Ubuntu logo and progress bar, then I reboot
[02:24] <nsix> ctrl+alt+f1 works
[02:31] <holstein> !tty
[02:31] <holstein> ^^ you can use those as well, when you are "stuck"
[02:31] <holstein> nsix: what happened when you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm as torax suggested?
[02:33] <nsix> when I pressed ctrl+alt+f7 I was pushed back to the desktop/login screen but this time it was solid black
[02:34] <nsix> well a black box with black borders
[02:34] <nsix> the purple was replaced by black
[02:34] <nsix> i rebooted but was greeted by the same purple screen as before
[02:35] <holstein> nsix: i would say, it'll take you some time to learn how to rescue that system.. i would start over, and take it easy
[02:35] <holstein> nsix: use XFCE for a while, as-is
[02:35] <holstein> try mate from a live CD
[02:36] <nsix> so reinstall :/
[02:36] <holstein> nsix: it takes me about 8 minutes to install xubuntu
[02:37] <Unit193> (Little more for configuration)  Mate and cinnamon aren't officially supported in 12.10, but 13.04 has cinnamon in the repos.
[02:37] <holstein> nsix: otherwise, what happened when you tried the command?
[02:37] <nsix> nothing
[04:36] <xubuntu026> hi
[04:36] <xubuntu026> I'm new
[04:36] <xubuntu026> xfce o gnome 3.6?
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: xfce and gnome are both destkop environments
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: you would use gnome *instead* of xfce
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: you just open the pacakge manager of your choice and search "gnome"
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: you can ask in #ubuntu as well
[09:37] <qwertz_> why does my xubuntu 12.10 lock the screen on suspend although i ticked that in the settings manager?
[09:39] <TheSheep> qwertz_: as far as I remember there are two places where that setting is, one in the screensaver and one in the power manager, and you have to tick both
[09:39] <TheSheep> qwertz_: and yes, it's silly
[09:41] <qwertz_> TheSheep, you mean "Lock Screen After X minutes"?
[09:47] <qwertz_> got it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078730
[09:47] <qwertz_> this is stupid
[09:48] <TheSheep> yeah, it's an eternal work in progress
[09:51] <baizon> a question, i want to backup my system. What conf files/dirs should i backup besides my /home folder?
[10:11] <qwertz_> baizon, from my experience: none.
[10:12] <qwertz_> make sure not to forget all "dot" dirs in ~
[10:12] <lestus> sup
[10:22] <baizon> qwertz_: wont happen
[11:13] <nantou> i need to use evolution torified, for that I need a command that is stored somewhere in the registry of commands, but I cannot locate it. Is there any app or command that allows me to search for any specific command? IE, "evolution"?
[11:16] <TheSheep> nantou: the registry of commands?
[11:16] <nantou> forgive the broken english, i dont even know if thats the correct term
[11:16] <nantou> the list of commands you write in a terminal is called...
[11:17] <TheSheep> history?
[11:17] <TheSheep> you can search the terminal command history by pressing ctrl+r
[11:29] <nantou> ok...
[11:29] <nantou> thanks
[12:46] <someone235> Hey, when I try to access SFTP through the file manager, It doesn't respond. Someone can help me with this?
[14:36] <roasted> hello!
[14:37] <roasted> Is there a way to make the "home" desktop icon open Nautilus instead of Thunar? Thunar is being problematic and I have Nautilus set as the default file manager but I specifically want that home icon to open Nautilus as well.
[14:37] <GridCube> change the preffered applications
[14:37] <GridCube> preferred
[14:40] <roasted> I did
[14:40] <roasted> It changes Nautilus to default for everything EXCEPT that home icon on my desktop.
[14:41] <roasted> I want the home icon specifically to launchy Nautilus because the home icon is only delete-able from the system settings > desktop menu.
[14:41] <roasted> Long story short, I'm using Xubuntu as the OS of choice for old computer sthat I'm repurposing and donating to people with financial hardships, particularly ones with kids who could benefit from having a computer with a word processor and educational games etc.
[14:42] <GridCube> i remember a ubuntu question site about this subject, did you googled for an answer?
[14:42] <roasted> I like the thought of that home icon only being delete-able from the system settings menu as it'll be an extra deterrent to not have that icon deleted off of their desktop. I just think it'll be easier for brand new users if I can figure this out for them before I hand systems out.
[14:42] <roasted> I did, but all I could find was info relating to using Nautilus on X ubuntu - not specifically using Nautilus as the default for this specific icon on Xubuntu.
[14:43] <roasted> I'd be fine with using Thunar if Thunar wouldn't take 60 seconds to launch. I seem to be getting hit with that gvfs bug that has been around for the better part of two years now :(
[14:43] <GridCube> just add a launched for nautilus and remove that one
[14:43] <roasted> oh, a lau ncher...
[14:44] <roasted> let me fire up my VM and see. (I'm not at home to verify it on the main i mage I'm doing)
[14:45] <roasted> Thanks for the insight GridCube  :)
[16:37] <Rogach> Hello! Can I find downloadable images of Xubuntu 10.10 somewhere?
[16:40] <bazhang> Rogach, why ever would you want that. its not supported any longer
[16:40] <baizon> Rogach: no
[16:40] <baizon> why not 12.04?
[16:40] <GridCube> you... can... but you wont get support for those
[16:40] <roasted> For kicks I just installed Xubuntu, but that icon thhing still doesn't apply. The application launcher I created I can't get into the default icons field.
[16:41] <Rogach> bazhang:There is some problem with video drivers - we tried to get it working with 12.04, but failed. Also, we hope that the memory consumption will be a bit lower - < 256 mb of memory on board, and 12.04 seems to have troubles with that.
[16:41] <GridCube> roasted, what?
[16:41] <Rogach> GridCube: Where?
[16:42] <roasted> GridCube: from earlier, I want to add a new icon to the Default Icons section of System Settings - Desktop - Icons tab - Default Icons. I can't do that.
[16:42] <GridCube> Rogach, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[16:42] <GridCube> Rogach, i want to repeat: no support
[16:43] <Rogach> GridCube: I know that :)
[16:43] <GridCube> roasted, sorry im not understanding you
[16:43] <bazhang> Rogach, no security updates at all. its very unwise to use
[16:43] <GridCube> you want to change the icon for a launcher
[16:43] <Rogach> GridCube: There's no xubuntu on that page :(
[16:44] <GridCube> Rogach, i wouldn't expect it to be, no
[16:44] <Rogach> GridCube: Eh. Sad.
[16:45] <GridCube> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/
[16:45] <GridCube> only ones stored are those
[16:46] <Rogach> GridCube: Well, I know one place where 6.06 still works, powering a mail server :)
[16:46] <roasted> GridCube: I'm not sure how else I can explain it...
[16:46] <roasted> GridCube: System Settings - Desktop - Icons tab - Default Icons. How can I add something there?
[16:46] <GridCube> Rogach, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/
[16:47] <Rogach> GridCube: That was not exactly what we wanted, just update system was broken, and we left it as-is.
[16:47] <GridCube> Rogach, welp sorry 'bout that
[16:47] <Rogach> GridCube: :)
[16:47] <Rogach> GridCube: Thank you!
[16:47] <GridCube> not much else we can do from here
[16:49] <GridCube> roasted, i dont think you can do that no
[16:50] <GridCube> you can change the icon for the launcher itself
[16:50] <GridCube> but not add an icon to xfdesktop to my knowlede
[16:55] <roasted> GridCube: what I want to do is get Thunar off of the "Home" function and assign it to Nautilus... since Thunar seem sot be suffering from a 2 year old bug. <_<
[16:56] <roasted> ya know, I got a better idea.
[16:56] <roasted> I'll remove home, add the Nautilus launcher, and adjust the permissions to it
[16:56] <roasted> that way I can work around this limitation
[16:56] <GridCube> roasted, if its the lag on launch, thats been fixed on newer thunars
[16:57] <roasted> GridCube: I'm full updated, upgraded, etc in 12.04 - no fix.
[16:57] <roasted> GridCube: is that osmething I have to PPA/compile in?
[16:58] <GridCube> roasted, first there is a silly simple workaround, then you can get the 12.10 thunar version, using a ppa for xfce 4.10, then you can get a newer-newer version of thunar that even has tabbed browsing and what not
[16:59] <roasted> GridCube: that sounds good. Got a guide handy?
[17:01] <GridCube> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/775117 answer 13 has the workaround, dead simple
[17:02] <roasted> oh, I read about this elsewhere, but I thought ti disabled all network capability with samba shares.
[17:02] <roasted> One user on another source commented, I don't use file sharing services anyway like samba so it's fine if I don't have that functionality.
[17:02] <GridCube> you can get the "semi oficial" ppa for 4.10  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/install-xfce-410-in-xubuntu-1204.html
[17:02] <roasted> I took that as setting this to false means there's no smb browsing capability whatsoever.
[17:03] <GridCube> you will taint your 12.04 though, so no oficial support for hat
[17:03] <GridCube> roasted, it works her
[17:03] <GridCube> e
[17:03] <roasted> I think I'll try this fix.
[17:03] <roasted> the workaround that is.
[17:03] <roasted> As long as I can still do smb://192.168.x.x to my samba server, this will be perfect.
[17:03] <GridCube> you should be able to
[17:03] <roasted> awesome
[17:03] <roasted> thanks!
[17:03] <GridCube> its simply not loaded at boot
[17:03] <GridCube> or launch
[17:05] <roasted> I'm fine with that. Just as long as it responds when I hit smb://etc.etc
[17:05] <roasted> I'mheading home for lunch so I'll give it a shot then.
[17:05] <roasted> thanks again!
[17:39] <chaz_z> hey guys, I installed KDE desktop on my xubuntu installation. When I'm in KDE, gtk widgets aren't themed. Obviously I need to do something so they look nice again. here's a screenie: http://i.imgur.com/hmrhw6f.png
[17:40] <chaz_z> anyone online?
[17:40] <laite> chaz_z: I'm not that familiar with KDE but I'd think there's some option in its settings
[17:41] <chaz_z> changing widget skins using the kde settings doesn't seem to work :(
[17:42] <laite> there are (I think) two settings in KDE, for QT and for gtk, you need gtk settings
[17:42] <chaz_z> hm, I wonder what the gtk settings application name is?
[17:42] <laite> try asking #kde ?
[17:43] <chaz_z> good idea
[17:44] <genii-around> !info qtcurve
[18:05] <bullgard4> When I boot up my computer. Xubuntu 12.04.2 automatically starts a certain command-line program.  How to find out where this start command is located on my hard disk?
[18:06] <baizon> bullgard4: check session and startup
[18:07] <baizon> there should be a path
[18:39] <roasted> hello!
[18:39] <roasted> Thunar proved to be a pita even with the workaround in the network mount file.
[18:39] <roasted> Nautilus ftw.
[18:40] <baizon> have you tried Thunar 1.6?
[18:41] <roasted> No.
[18:41] <roasted> Is it available for 12.04?
[18:41] <baizon> roasted: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/install-thunar-with-tabs-support-in.html
[18:41] <roasted> oh boy <3 <3 <3
[18:47] <roasted> Thunar still takes a freakin hour to start.
[18:47] <roasted> Nautilus ftw x2
[18:48] <roasted> cancel that, seems as if I'm still on 1.2.3............
[18:48] <roasted> <_<
[18:49] <roasted> in synaptic I marked thunar 1.6 to be upgraded, and it flags xubuntu-desktop as to be removed.
[18:49] <roasted> I'm done with this. Thunar is too much fuss.
[18:50] <baizon> roasted: please clear the cache
[18:50] <baizon> hehe ok
[18:51] <roasted> claer what cache
[19:04] <roasted> ah it doesn't matter. things are working fine with nautilus so I'm just going to run with that plan.
[20:23] <bullgard4> baizon: Which "session" do you mean? /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/ui/gtk3/session, /usr/share/doc/sqlite3-doc/session, /usr/share/indicators/session, /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/session, /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session, /home/detlef/.compiz-1/session, /home/detlef/.kde/share/config/session, /home/detlef/.compiz/session, ,/home/detlef/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session, /var/lib/pam/session?
[20:26] <KeyboardNotFound> how to restart user graphical settings ?
[20:26] <KeyboardNotFound> to default ?
[20:28] <bullgard4> KeyboardNotFound: What do you mean by "user graphical settings"?
[20:39] <Phoon> Which packages do I need to install to get a working Eclipse install for Android?
[21:16] <kzetts> Hi
[21:17] <kzetts> Do you guys use a 3rd party app for theme management? I copied a gtk theme and an xfwm theme into ~/.themes and neither are showing up in the appearance settings tool.
[21:17] <kzetts> Any ideas?
[21:17] <knome> kzetts, did you extract the themes?
[21:17] <kzetts> yes
[21:18] <knome> kzetts, does it happen with all themes or just some specific ones?
[21:18] <kzetts> This is the first that I've tried
[21:18] <kzetts> After extracting the xfwm theme
[21:18] <kzetts> its just a folder with a bunch of pixmaps in it
[21:18] <kzetts> and the gtk theme
[21:18] <rzyz> Hello, thunar delete entries in ~/.gtk-bookmarks that are unreachable. I don't want that. How do it?
[21:18] <kzetts> inside the directory is a .emerald file, and another tarball
[21:19] <rzyz> it networks marks
[21:19] <rzyz> is*
[21:19] <knome> kzetts, the xfwm theme should appear under "window manager"
[21:19] <kzetts> Oh
[21:19] <kzetts> it did.
[21:19] <knome> kzetts, the emerald file doesn't sound like something that should work with xfce
[21:19] <kzetts> Perfect
[21:23] <kzetts> Great
[21:23] <kzetts> Now most thinks look better
[21:23] <kzetts> But it seems that the themes have messed up my panel
[21:23] <kzetts> Like the indicator icons are all wonky.
[21:30] <Jutas> hi guys. I would lik to know  in which folder has the files of look and apperience over the themes and icons? i put the folder in those but it's not good enough
[21:49] <lestus> is everyone still just using 12.04 lts for stability or did everyone upgrade to 12.10 ?
[21:50] <torax> lestus: im using 12.04
[21:51] <g16> lestus: I'm using both
[21:52] <recon_lap> 12.04 :) , seems a lot of Luddites here
[21:53] <aicasn-V> 12.04
[22:02] <lestus> nice
[22:12] <David-A> lestus: I'm on 10.04 :)  people use the LTS releases if they only want to upgrade about every 3d year. over time the LTS:es should also be more stable.